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quan the don
01-21-2013, 03:15 PM
After watching some of the Championship Games, I'm 100% for offensive line. with a good O-Line the Giants can control the game with the run, and Eli will pick apart D's if they have to fear the run with some Play-action. Look at how much time Brady gets, look at how San Fran dominated on the ground. Even Baltimore was impressive that last drive to end the game where NE knew the run was coming but couldn't stop it. Chance Warmack or Johnathan Cooper would be my choice.

New England with an undisputed top 5 QB in the league was second in rushing attempts!

slipknottin
01-21-2013, 03:19 PM
Ravens just redid their line with free agents. Lol

Fact is, going from a mid level player, to a top player is not all that big a difference on the OL. Its a difference of maybe one play a game.

TheEnigma
01-21-2013, 03:20 PM
I see where you are coming from but I don't think any team that misses the playoffs (with the exception of a huge QB injury) has the luxury to put more emphasis on need than the raw talent of the players available. The Giants just need too much help on the front 7 of the defense and maybe another DB or two to go all out on the Oline this year. Best case scenario would be to grab one OL in the first 3 rounds and find an underrated FA acquisition if possible.

Carter.525
01-21-2013, 03:28 PM
I agree on Warmack.. if he's there, Reese will be all over it

quan the don
01-21-2013, 03:32 PM
Ravens just redid their line with free agents. Lol

Fact is, going from a mid level player, to a top player is not all that big a difference on the OL. Its a difference of maybe one play a game.

True, but if you look at the 49ers, they have three first round picks on their O-line with the other two being amazing finds.

slipknottin
01-21-2013, 03:42 PM
True, but if you look at the 49ers, they have three first round picks on their O-line with the other two being amazing finds.

They had to because they needed to rely completely on their running game.

Turns out the best blocker on their team ended up being Kapernick on the option plays anyway.

BlueSabbath
01-21-2013, 03:45 PM
I'm all for OL. I don't think there's anyway around it though, if we want Warmack, we'll have to trade. If we want to go OL with our first pick, I'm thinking Fluker, Dallas Thomas or MAYBE Barrett Jones (probably more of a late 1st round early 2nd ground guy) as guys that would be best value at 19. Barrett Jones can play center or guard. Fluker would be able to step right in at RT (maayy struggle just a tad with speed rushers early on) and Dallas Thomas could play guard or RT.

quan the don
01-21-2013, 04:04 PM
I'm all for OL. I don't think there's anyway around it though, if we want Warmack, we'll have to trade. If we want to go OL with our first pick, I'm thinking Fluker, Dallas Thomas or MAYBE Barrett Jones (probably more of a late 1st round early 2nd ground guy) as guys that would be best value at 19. Barrett Jones can play center or guard. Fluker would be able to step right in at RT (maayy struggle just a tad with speed rushers early on) and Dallas Thomas could play guard or RT.
Agree. Warmack may be available because if i remember correctly Decastro was projected to go top 15, and fell to 26.

PBTimmons
01-21-2013, 04:29 PM
Agree. Warmack may be available because if i remember correctly Decastro was projected to go top 15, and fell to 26.

I predicted Decastro would fall further than most thought and was berated for it...I won't do the same to you but I would say there was arguably more talented players in the top end of last years draft than in this years. We'll see.

Carter.525
01-21-2013, 04:36 PM
If Warmack slips, I could see the Cowboys taking him right before NY picks..

nycsportzfan
01-21-2013, 07:35 PM
Ravens just redid their line with free agents. Lol

Fact is, going from a mid level player, to a top player is not all that big a difference on the OL. Its a difference of maybe one play a game. Huh? Isn't Oher a former 1st and Osemele a early 2nd? Not to mention, Birk is a sensational Veteran Center.. Marshall Yanda is a former 3rd rd pick of the Ravens.. THey also got guys like Gradkowski and Harewood , who were draft picks for baltimore.. How have they redone there line with FA's?

nycsportzfan
01-21-2013, 07:38 PM
I predicted Decastro would fall further than most thought and was berated for it...I won't do the same to you but I would say there was arguably more talented players in the top end of last years draft than in this years. We'll see. Good call with Decastro, but for the ones who use that as something to consder when thinking about Warmack falling, don't forget Mike Iupati, and both Pouncey brothers did go early and right about where most thought.. Sure Decastro feel some, but still went in first, but dosen't mean Warmack won't fall in the Pouncey/Iupati group, that got drafted where perdicted for most part.. I think Warmacks a even better prospect then possibly all of em..

slipknottin
01-21-2013, 07:53 PM
Huh? Isn't Oher a former 1st and Osemele a early 2nd? Not to mention, Birk is a sensational Veteran Center.. Marshall Yanda is a former 3rd rd pick of the Ravens.. THey also got guys like Gradkowski and Harewood , who were draft picks for baltimore.. How have they redone there line with FA's?

Oher also just got moved to RT because he is a very poor LT.

Osemele was the RT, but he got moved to LG when Oher got moved to RT.

We can talk about the ravens investing in their OL, but really they did not have that good of a unit.

Puretalent
01-21-2013, 09:53 PM
All in on Warmack. But also would like to see them grab Travis Fred**** of Wisconsin. Badass center they can use.

PBTimmons
01-21-2013, 09:59 PM
Good call with Decastro, but for the ones who use that as something to consder when thinking about Warmack falling, don't forget Mike Iupati, and both Pouncey brothers did go early and right about where most thought.. Sure Decastro feel some, but still went in first, but dosen't mean Warmack won't fall in the Pouncey/Iupati group, that got drafted where perdicted for most part.. I think Warmacks a even better prospect then possibly all of em..

Yeah, Warmack falling to the Giants sounds more like a dream than a reality right now. What about Jonathan Martin? They had him slated to go top 10 last year before the combine and come draft day he slid to the bottom half of the 2nd round, right?

nycsportzfan
01-22-2013, 07:14 AM
Oher also just got moved to RT because he is a very poor LT.

Osemele was the RT, but he got moved to LG when Oher got moved to RT.

We can talk about the ravens investing in their OL, but really they did not have that good of a unit. Ya, but still, Osemeles doing very well as a rookie, and most thought Guard with him anyhow, and just because Oher moved to RT, dosen't mean he isn't a big part of that Oline, he just wasen't a LT type.. I'm just wondering where the FA's are? They just had some guys playing out of positon is all.. Ohers been on that oline through some very good yrs, Osemeles first yr, resulted in starting for a SB team, and Yanda is also very good as well.. They got some solid players like Gradkowski and Harewood to come off the bench as well.. THey've built a nice oline through the draft, especially now that they seem to have everyone in positon..