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shane4177
01-25-2013, 11:30 AM
What is the value of doing one over the other when it comes to some of our higher paid guys that are under performing and/or declining? If a player is not even decent enough to keep as depth......should we still keep them around so as not to get bit by the salary cap?

Drez
01-25-2013, 11:33 AM
As far as I'm aware there's no cap hit when trading a player, the team that trades for the player just takes on the contract. However, there are some clauses where the original team must pay all or part of the bonus money... It's really contract dependent.

If we keep them, we're on the hook for their base salary and any guaranteed/bonus money.

If we release them, then we're on the hook only for the guaranteed money and are relieved of their base salaries.

Trouble with trading a guy is finding a team that is willing to take on a high contract for a declining player and getting adequate compensation in return.

shane4177
01-25-2013, 12:36 PM
Heck at this point I would take a 4th or 5th rounder for Diehl........guy is train wreck. Tuck is at least serviceable for depth if he doesn't start. Webby I would trade for maybe a 3-4 round pick..........he could probably do better he went to a team that did press coverage.....

Flip Empty
01-25-2013, 12:38 PM
Diehl isn't worth a 4th or 5th... you'd be lucky to get anything for him.

Cloud57
01-25-2013, 01:13 PM
Diehl isn't worth a 4th or 5th... you'd be lucky to get anything for him.I would trade him for a used Vick Jersey

BlueReign
01-25-2013, 01:36 PM
I would trade him for a used Vick Jersey
As long as the person who has the Vick jersey is willing to pay his salary ahah

shane4177
01-25-2013, 02:22 PM
Diehl isn't worth a 4th or 5th... you'd be lucky to get anything for him.

Ok....a 6th or a 7th then maybe:)

Harooni
01-25-2013, 02:24 PM
As far as I'm aware there's no cap hit when trading a player, the team that trades for the player just takes on the contract. However, there are some clauses where the original team must pay all or part of the bonus money... It's really contract dependent.

If we keep them, we're on the hook for their base salary and any guaranteed/bonus money.

If we release them, then we're on the hook only for the guaranteed money and are relieved of their base salaries.

Trouble with trading a guy is finding a team that is willing to take on a high contract for a declining player and getting adequate compensation in return.

there still is a cap penalty for trading a player.

giantsfan420
01-25-2013, 04:26 PM
there still is a cap penalty for trading a player.its not a penalty, its a cap hit, and drez explained how a trade effects the cap

slipknottin
01-25-2013, 04:41 PM
Trading and cutting is largely the same thing when it comes to the cap.

Both accelerate the signing bonus so it hits in the current season.

Thats why teams dont often trade guys who had big signing bonuses


Only real difference cut vs. trade is that when a player is traded the new team picks up their base salary. But that does not aid the team who traded them at all in terms of cap money, only real money.

BigBlueAllDay
01-25-2013, 05:36 PM
It's just that with a trade, the team is suppose to get something in return. The guaranteed signing bonus money is a 100% cap-hit stuck with the original team in all cases because that money is already paid upfront by the original team. The other team will never be responsible for signing bonuses in a trade.

Drez
01-25-2013, 10:20 PM
Trading and cutting is largely the same thing when it comes to the cap.

Both accelerate the signing bonus so it hits in the current season.

Thats why teams dont often trade guys who had big signing bonuses


Only real difference cut vs. trade is that when a player is traded the new team picks up their base salary. But that does not aid the team who traded them at all in terms of cap money, only real money.
Thanks, Slip.