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Toadofsteel
01-28-2013, 02:00 AM
Anyone know anything about this guy? I know he's OT from Bama so he should be good and fits a heavy need on our offense, but I haven't actually read much info on him. Another pro-ready OT would be definitely nice in round 1...

PS: said mocks have Warmack going between 8-10, Joeckel at 1-5, Ogletree, Te'o, and Ansah past us in the 20s.

rainierjef
01-28-2013, 02:04 AM
Anyone know anything about this guy? I know he's OT from Bama so he should be good and fits a heavy need on our offense, but I haven't actually read much info on him. Another pro-ready OT would be definitely nice in round 1...

PS: said mocks have Warmack going between 8-10, Joeckel at 1-5, Ogletree, Te'o, and Ansah past us in the 20s.

Flunker to me is a late first round pick , but that solely depends on how many tackles go in the first 15 picks.

TheEnigma
01-28-2013, 05:59 AM
We can do much better than a pure RT at #19 overall. I don't see an OL selection happening in the 1st unless we lose Beatty.

TomCat_FIN
01-28-2013, 06:08 AM
We need a linebacker in the 1st round, IMO.

penguinfarmer
01-28-2013, 07:33 AM
He's an exclusive RT who needs to work on his pass protection. Plus the Giants don't usually go for that stacked figure. They'd probably prefer someone who can move at the next level opposed to a drive blocker.

Redeyejedi
01-28-2013, 08:59 AM
Anyone know anything about this guy? I know he's OT from Bama so he should be good and fits a heavy need on our offense, but I haven't actually read much info on him. Another pro-ready OT would be definitely nice in round 1...

PS: said mocks have Warmack going between 8-10, Joeckel at 1-5, Ogletree, Te'o, and Ansah past us in the 20s. Here is some video I cut of him

Fluker vs Michigan


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6eoZdR-ZTQ

It says Warmack but just watch the RT


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYVkEOzZkEM

Wow just realized how little I have up on Bamas OLine I will upload more. I thought I put up full line Videos of A&M ,Georgia,LSU

Redeyejedi
01-28-2013, 09:05 AM
We can do much better than a pure RT at #19 overall. I don't see an OL selection happening in the 1st unless we lose Beatty.He might not even be a RT , He might be a Guard. I dont see him as a 1st round pick. The only Alabama lineman that I think is a 1st rounder is Warmack.
I really wonder what the Giants FO is thinking about Marvin Austin. If they think he has no future they might go DT. This Dline needs some help bad. Im worried that they may wait another year and by then the bottom might totally fall out. If they dont add youth and Tuck has nothing left, Osi leaves in FA, Austin is a bust, Ojomo and Tracy arent anything but depth U will have serious issuess with Joseph and JPP becoming FA's. U could be left in total rebuild mold

Carter.525
01-28-2013, 09:14 AM
don't like Fluker at #19.. at all

Toadofsteel
01-28-2013, 09:22 AM
We can do much better than a pure RT at #19 overall. I don't see an OL selection happening in the 1st unless we lose Beatty.


We need a linebacker in the 1st round, IMO.

I saw what Eli Manning with some actual time to throw can do last night. I'm now 100% convinced that we NEEEEEEEEEED O-line first. Not saying this Fluker guy is the answer by any means, but we absolutely need OL, especially at RT. Diehl is plain bad now, and apparently Brewer is worse because he couldn't crack the lineup even with aforementioned Diehl in there...

Carter.525
01-28-2013, 09:28 AM
Lane Johnson makes sense at #19..

Toadofsteel
01-28-2013, 09:37 AM
Lane Johnson makes sense at #19..

If he's still there at 19, i'm down... but most mocks have him going between 12-17...

TheEnigma
01-28-2013, 10:39 AM
He might not even be a RT , He might be a Guard. I dont see him as a 1st round pick. The only Alabama lineman that I think is a 1st rounder is Warmack.
I really wonder what the Giants FO is thinking about Marvin Austin. If they think he has no future they might go DT. This Dline needs some help bad. Im worried that they may wait another year and by then the bottom might totally fall out. If they dont add youth and Tuck has nothing left, Osi leaves in FA, Austin is a bust, Ojomo and Tracy arent anything but depth U will have serious issuess with Joseph and JPP becoming FA's. U could be left in total rebuild mold

It would depend on the offense but a run first team that primarily depends on short to intermediate passing routes could probably get away with Fluker at RT. With the Giants offense using deep passes so often, you need a RT that can hold up in pass protection for an extended period of time and Fluker looks like the type to get eaten alive by pass rushers at the next level on those kinds of downs. We might as well just stick with Brewer who already has 2 years in our system and when you get down to it, is Fluker really that much of an upgrade?

You just don't take an OL player in the 1st with so many needs unless it's a LT or a "can't miss" sort of prospect at another position like some think Warmack is at G. We could use some more interior OL depth but the front 7 on defense should be the biggest priority.


I saw what Eli Manning with some actual time to throw can do last night.

It was the Pro Bowl though man. You saw the cushions the DBs were giving them right? Anyway, we can upgrade our offense all we want but we're not going to be able to stand up to even better offenses if we fail to get a pass rush on them or get owned by runs to the side because our linebackers fail to get there in time.

BlueSabbath
01-28-2013, 10:40 AM
I'd be happy with Fluker if some others guys I like were gone, although I agree #19 is a tad high for him. He could use some improvement in pass protection but destroys people in the running game. He' still young too. Great attitude though and MASSIVE... They don't call him Planet Fluker for nothing. I don't think there's any chance he plays guard though. I'd be willing to bet Barrett Jones is still there at #19 and I think he'd be the better long term get.

Morehead State
01-28-2013, 10:49 AM
I saw what Eli Manning with some actual time to throw can do last night. I'm now 100% convinced that we NEEEEEEEEEED O-line first. Not saying this Fluker guy is the answer by any means, but we absolutely need OL, especially at RT. Diehl is plain bad now, and apparently Brewer is worse because he couldn't crack the lineup even with aforementioned Diehl in there...
So let me get this straight.....You are using a Pro Bowl performance with non existent defense to draw your conclusions about what Eli could use?

Just checking.

miked1958
01-28-2013, 10:59 AM
Id look at Barrett Jones maybe before Womack and Fluker. Reason being is his ability to play different positions on the OLine with excellence. That kid was 3 championships playing 3 diferent positions on their OLine

BlueSabbath
01-28-2013, 11:07 AM
Id look at Barrett Jones maybe before Womack and Fluker. Reason being is his ability to play different positions on the OLine with excellence. That kid was 3 championships playing 3 diferent positions on their OLine

Exactly.. and being able to go from left tackle to center and still perform at an elite level in the SEC is ridiculous.

TheEnigma
01-28-2013, 11:12 AM
Id look at Barrett Jones maybe before Womack and Fluker. Reason being is his ability to play different positions on the OLine with excellence. That kid was 3 championships playing 3 diferent positions on their OLine

Jones has questionable athleticism (I personally think he will be fine) at the next level but should still be able to play every position on the OL except LT. He's a smart, hardworking kid who gets by with technique and should be a 2nd rounder in the draft.

nycsportzfan
01-28-2013, 11:21 AM
No way we take DJ Fluker at 19overall.. He could end up being a Guard , as hes kinda the plodding type, and at best, hes a run blocking RT.. I don't know how many mocks have em going in rd 1? Most i 've seen, have em going mid 2nd to late 2nd... Only oline i could stomach in RD1 is Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson, and Chance Warmack.. Warmack only because hes so good, and such a safe bet , as Fluker isn't even a safe bet... He has some bust concerns as well.. Will his weight be able to stay under control? Will he be able to move well enough to stay at RT? Will he be able to pass block good enough against talented NFL caliber ends? I don't trust em, to be honest.. He seemed to be the one that got blown by the most outta the bama olineman this past yr.. I just don't like nor trust DJ Fluker..

TheAnalyst
01-28-2013, 11:26 AM
Im fine with an OL pick in the first. I would love Ogletree if he is there though, but wouldn't be angry with the right OL pick there. I could also be ok with a pass rusher.

Carter.525
01-28-2013, 11:47 AM
I'd be happy with Fluker if some others guys I like were gone, although I agree #19 is a tad high for him. He could use some improvement in pass protection but destroys people in the running game. He' still young too. Great attitude though and MASSIVE... They don't call him Planet Fluker for nothing. I don't think there's any chance he plays guard though. I'd be willing to bet Barrett Jones is still there at #19 and I think he'd be the better long term get.

Planet Fluker.. I like that

Redeyejedi
01-28-2013, 11:49 AM
No way we take DJ Fluker at 19overall.. He could end up being a Guard , as hes kinda the plodding type, and at best, hes a run blocking RT.. I don't know how many mocks have em going in rd 1? Most i 've seen, have em going mid 2nd to late 2nd... Only oline i could stomach in RD1 is Eric Fisher, Lane Johnson, and Chance Warmack.. Warmack only because hes so good, and such a safe bet , as Fluker isn't even a safe bet... He has some bust concerns as well.. Will his weight be able to stay under control? Will he be able to move well enough to stay at RT? Will he be able to pass block good enough against talented NFL caliber ends? I don't trust em, to be honest.. He seemed to be the one that got blown by the most outta the bama olineman this past yr.. I just don't like nor trust DJ Fluker.. Those 3 are the only 1's I like as well. we dont know how much the Giants like James Brewer. They may be planning on going with him at RT next season .

miked1958
01-28-2013, 11:55 AM
Jones has questionable athleticism (I personally think he will be fine) at the next level but should still be able to play every position on the OL except LT. He's a smart, hardworking kid who gets by with technique and should be a 2nd rounder in the draft.I say if he is still there when we pick in second round we would need to seriously think about taking him

TCHOF
01-28-2013, 12:07 PM
I saw what Eli Manning with some actual time to throw can do last night. I'm now 100% convinced that we NEEEEEEEEEED O-line first. Not saying this Fluker guy is the answer by any means, but we absolutely need OL, especially at RT. Diehl is plain bad now, and apparently Brewer is worse because he couldn't crack the lineup even with aforementioned Diehl in there...

I agree. Our offense struggled at the end of last year and a big, ready to start OT would significantly help our run and pass game next year. The guy I like is Lane Johnson.

I'm not sure that a LB or DT would have the same impact on our defense next year. It's possible, though, that a pro-ready DE could have a big impact on our defense, although I'm not sure that a guy like that would be available at 19.

nycsportzfan
01-28-2013, 12:39 PM
If we come away with one of Alec Ogletree, Ez Ansah, Alex Okafor, Kawaan Short, Lane Johnson, or Chance Warmack, i will be happy and content.. Obviously a player could fall which would make me happy as well, but overall, those are the guys that would make me most happy..

nycsportzfan
01-28-2013, 12:44 PM
Those 3 are the only 1's I like as well. we dont know how much the Giants like James Brewer. They may be planning on going with him at RT next season . Ya , its kinda funny how sometimes we draft a guy adn people all expect it to be a couple yrs before we get a return on our investment, and then when the guy dosen't do anything or much in the couple yrs waiting for the return, we all think hes a bust..lol It really dosen't make much sense?

I loved Brewer as a prospect, and still think if hes given the reigns he could be our answer.. Long arms, moves pretty well for a guy his size, good long frame and mass, and fairly athletic.. But he was a raw propsect, and this would be the yr we would know for sure what we got, as this would be the yr u would of thought him to get his chance.. So , all that said, i think were kinda overlooking Brewer, and even though i mock a RT to us at times, mostly its due to giving Brewer Competiton, except in regards to Fisher and L.Johnson, becasue i just believe they are that good of prospects...