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shane4177
02-01-2013, 02:05 PM
I use cbssports.com draft board for rankings......with that these are the 1st round worthy ones they show:

Dee Milliner
Desmond Trufant
Xavier Rhodes
Johnthan Banks
Jordan Poyer

Now assuming Dee is wayyy gone by the time we pick.........who would you go with?

Carter.525
02-01-2013, 02:21 PM
the X-Man.. Xavier Rhodes

GoDeep80
02-01-2013, 02:32 PM
Gotta go with Poyer on this one. Zone specialist, Tackler, and a playmaker!

slipknottin
02-01-2013, 02:39 PM
Take Wreh-Wilson in the second over everyone else listed apart from Millner

B-Red22
02-01-2013, 03:02 PM
Xavier Rhodes, big and physical

TheEnigma
02-01-2013, 03:05 PM
Outside of Milliner, Poyer is my favorite on that list. I just hope he hasn't been removed off of the Giants board for that bar fight he had awhile back.

Carter.525
02-01-2013, 03:13 PM
Xavier Rhodes, big and physical

yup.. would be nice with Prince & Hosley

myles2424
02-01-2013, 04:08 PM
Outside of Milliner, Poyer is my favorite on that list. I just hope he hasn't been removed off of the Giants board for that bar fight he had awhile back.

I think taking a guy off the board for a bar fight would be ridiculous...these guys have to have a social life & unfortunatley some drunk A-holes want to screw with athletes when all the women flock

Kase-1
02-01-2013, 07:00 PM
Id rank em, Rhodes, Poyer, Trufant, Milliner, Banks

G-Men Surg.
02-01-2013, 09:01 PM
Honestly taking Milliner out of the equation I'm not willing for the Giants to spend the 19 pick in another CB.

nycsportzfan
02-01-2013, 09:04 PM
Poyer is a guy i would love to get.. Athletic, ballskills, fast..etc

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-01-2013, 09:07 PM
Poyer is a guy i would love to get.. Athletic, ballskills, fast..etc

the more I see him the more I like him,,where do you think he goes? 2nd? early 3rd? am I way off?

Carter.525
02-01-2013, 09:29 PM
the more I see him the more I like him,,where do you think he goes? 2nd? early 3rd? am I way off?

early 2nd.. I think

nycsportzfan
02-02-2013, 05:42 AM
the more I see him the more I like him,,where do you think he goes? 2nd? early 3rd? am I way off? I said a ways back i thought he'd be a riser possibly into RD1, and hes gotten close, as i've seen em as the 1st pick of RD2 to Jags a bunch, and i think its certainly not outta the realm to believe he could go in that end of RD1 range, but probably top half of RD2 would be a better pct guess...


I've had him ranked behind Milliner since about October... I like Jonathan Banks as well, but thought the gap was closer then made out to be, and now u see Banks dropping in some mocks to the 20's while Poyer has risen to early 2nd, so i guess people are agreeing with my initial assesment?

To be honest, i don't even know if Jonathan Banks is the best CB on his team, as Darius Slay is a heck of a player as well..

Redeyejedi
02-02-2013, 10:27 AM
early 2nd.. I think We will see I've seen really varied reports about his timed speed. I dont think he would fall out of the 2nd day but if he runs a 4.55 - 4.6 that could be a problem for some teams. At worst he will be looked at as a Nickel back and those do get drafted early 2nd round.

penguinfarmer
02-02-2013, 02:24 PM
Rhodes is pretty rough around the edges, but I think he has the most upside. I'm surprised teams didn't challenge him as much as he does tend to be over aggressive and flip his hips early in the receiver's routes. But a few more years learning technique and I think he can be a very good NFL corner.

I don't think the gap between Milliner and Poyer is great if there is one at all.

I'm not certain of the love of Banks. By comparison, I felt Jimmy Smith and Dre Kirkpatrick were the better prospects, so I don't know why I continue to see Banks in the early first right after Milliner.

nycsportzfan
02-02-2013, 03:59 PM
We will see I've seen really varied reports about his timed speed. I dont think he would fall out of the 2nd day but if he runs a 4.55 - 4.6 that could be a problem for some teams. At worst he will be looked at as a Nickel back and those do get drafted early 2nd round. Hes faster then that.. Its funny becuase for some reason, i think of Joe Haden when i think of Poyer, and Haden ran a bit worse then he was supposed to and is nasty.. Not saying it always works that way, but Poyer is just good... He has a uncanny knack for getting his hand or hands on the ball, and hes so athletic.. Great instincts... Hes going top half of 2nd at worst...

nycsportzfan
02-02-2013, 04:04 PM
We will see I've seen really varied reports about his timed speed. I dont think he would fall out of the 2nd day but if he runs a 4.55 - 4.6 that could be a problem for some teams. At worst he will be looked at as a Nickel back and those do get drafted early 2nd round. So whos ur answer, anyways?

Kruunch
02-04-2013, 08:17 AM
Rhodes is pretty rough around the edges, but I think he has the most upside. I'm surprised teams didn't challenge him as much as he does tend to be over aggressive and flip his hips early in the receiver's routes. But a few more years learning technique and I think he can be a very good NFL corner.

I don't think the gap between Milliner and Poyer is great if there is one at all.

I'm not certain of the love of Banks. By comparison, I felt Jimmy Smith and Dre Kirkpatrick were the better prospects, so I don't know why I continue to see Banks in the early first right after Milliner.

I tend to agree the most with this.

Rhodes would be my top pick if we're going CB in the first two rounds.

Redeyejedi
02-04-2013, 08:23 AM
So whos ur answer, anyways?Ive listed who I like before. i would like to see them play a more aggressive zone scheme . If they will do that Xavier Rhodes.

Redeyejedi
02-04-2013, 08:24 AM
I tend to agree the most with this.

Rhodes would be my top pick if we're going CB in the first two rounds. I dont see why Milliner is a Top 5 pick

TheAnalyst
02-04-2013, 10:47 AM
Poyer in the 1st? Im not sure about that. I think he could slip to us in the 2nd, although it does seem like his stock is climbing. Milliner is the obvious pick if he is there. after that Id say Rhodes.

I hope we dont go CB at #1 though. We can patch work some FA CBs for next year with CWeb, Prince, Hosley. Will T2 come back for a one year deal? We need to revamp our pass rush which would help the DBs out big time.

Kruunch
02-04-2013, 01:20 PM
I dont see why Milliner is a Top 5 pick

It seemed that he was more a product of the Alabama name than any great shakes himself.

From what I've seen on tape, he has good range and decent speed but otherwise is fairly raw. So yeah, not sure why he'd be a top 5 pick (unless it's based on strength of competition, which a lot of pre-combine stuff is).

Mlerman17
02-04-2013, 02:19 PM
It seemed that he was more a product of the Alabama name than any great shakes himself. From what I've seen on tape, he has good range and decent speed but otherwise is fairly raw. So yeah, not sure why he'd be a top 5 pick (unless it's based on strength of competition, which a lot of pre-combine stuff is).So you don't think milliner is the best cover corner in the draft? I think he is without a doubt in my mind.

Kruunch
02-04-2013, 03:28 PM
So you don't think milliner is the best cover corner in the draft? I think he is without a doubt in my mind.

Not especially, no. I do see his value for size and athleticism but I don't watch his tape and automatically think "Top of the draft corner". But having said that, I will readily admit to being horrible at judging college-to-pros talent.

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-04-2013, 05:43 PM
Rhodes seems to fit the mold in regards to CB that the giants look for. I like that he appears to be pretty physical,,needs to wrap up better but is not afraid to stick his head in there,,,I like him.

nycsportzfan
02-04-2013, 10:12 PM
Rhodes seems to fit the mold in regards to CB that the giants look for. I like that he appears to be pretty physical,,needs to wrap up better but is not afraid to stick his head in there,,,I like him. I like Rhodes as well.. Poyer gets the nod for me, because i think his ball skills play well opposite Prince, but Rhodes physicality and size/speed combonation are very enticing, and i like him as well..

Its a good solid group of CB's this yr..

BlueSanta
02-05-2013, 03:31 AM
I like Rhodes as well.. Poyer gets the nod for me, because i think his ball skills play well opposite Prince, but Rhodes physicality and size/speed combonation are very enticing, and i like him as well..

Its a good solid group of CB's this yr..

Those are the 2 guys I like. Im not saying they are the 2 best, just the 2 that I think have the most value where they are being projected. I would also say that I like Trufant more than most do.

Every year we talk about "Giant type" players. To me, Rhodes is 1 of the guys atop that list.

nycsportzfan
02-05-2013, 06:16 AM
Those are the 2 guys I like. Im not saying they are the 2 best, just the 2 that I think have the most value where they are being projected. I would also say that I like Trufant more than most do.

Every year we talk about "Giant type" players. To me, Rhodes is 1 of the guys atop that list. U know i'm a trufant fan as well.. If my answer wasen't Poyer and/or Rhodes, it'd of certainly been Trufant.. And i agree, Rhodes does have that "GIANTS PICK" feel to em.. More so then Poyer, i will add...

I'd be very content grabbing one of Leon McFadden, Jamar Taylor, or Darius Slay in the 3rd or if we get real lucky, 4th rd as well... Taylor is physical, can man up, or play zone, and supports the run.. So for that, he kinda reminds me of a giants type pick as well...

titwio
02-05-2013, 08:26 AM
I dont see why Milliner is a Top 5 pick

Thank you...I've been saying this too. He's very talented but I don't see him being special in the mold that draft slot commands. He's not a Revis or Sanders and he doesn't have the same value as a Patrick Peterson.

I'd put him more in the 12-20 range.

Carter.525
02-05-2013, 08:30 AM
I wouldn't be mad at all if Rhodes was the pick at #19

wideright91
02-05-2013, 10:10 PM
Of the CB's I've seen, I like Banks the best. Big, physical playmaker with great measurables, as well. Rhodes looked good, too; definitely worth a second-round pick. Milliner looks overrated, and (though I'm the only idiot saying it) I think will be outshined by at least two CB's in this class.

Captain Chaos
02-06-2013, 05:30 AM
Rhodes, but I really see the G'men taking a DE in the first round.

Kruunch
02-06-2013, 08:06 AM
Rhodes, but I really see the G'men taking a DE in the first round.

The more I think about it the more I think the Giants either go DT or CB in the first round (and those positions in the first two rounds).

And I'm thinking CB because most of the DT prospects in the first round where we'd pick are 3-4 NTs.

The reason is we can go into 2013 with Kiwi, Tuck, JPP, Ojomo and Tracy at the DE spots.

Getting a top flight DT (what we thought we were getting with Austin) and a(nother) top flight CB would allow us to potentially part with Canty and CWeb, both of which are huge cap hits for us.

Carter.525
02-06-2013, 08:09 AM
I rank them like this: LB, CB, OT, DT, DE, G

a good chance the BPA will be a CB, Rhodes or Banks.. who ever Tampa Bay doesn't take

Redeyejedi
02-06-2013, 08:30 AM
Of the CB's I've seen, I like Banks the best. Big, physical playmaker with great measurables, as well. Rhodes looked good, too; definitely worth a second-round pick. Milliner looks overrated, and (though I'm the only idiot saying it) I think will be outshined by at least two CB's in this class. I dont think Milliner is worth the pick he is being projected to either.

nycsportzfan
02-06-2013, 09:57 AM
I dont think Milliner is worth the pick he is being projected to either. I've always thought Miliner was a bit overrated, from day 1.. I like em, and hes good, but like i've always said, hes not head and shoulders ahead of many of the other Corners in this draft..