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RoanokeFan
02-02-2013, 07:05 AM
http://www.giants101.com/2013/02/02/metlife-stadium-nearly-had-retractable-roof-but-new-york-giantsnew-york-jets-passed-due-to-price/

Excerpt: "Super Bowl XLVIII is still more than a year away, but it's been shrouded in controversy since day one due to MetLife Stadium (http://www.giants101.com/tag/metlife-stadium-2/), home of both the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants and New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Jets, being an outdoor stadium. Many fear NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)'s biggest game will suffer because of cold temperatures and potential inclement weathers. Some have even gone as far as to call it "******ed." (http://www.giants101.com/2013/01/29/baltimore-ravens-joe-flacco-on-new-yorknew-jersey-super-bowl-its-******ed/)

It's a concern that was taken into account while building the new Meadowlands stadium. Giants co-owners John Mara (http://www.giants101.com/tag/john-mara/) and Steve Tisch (http://www.giants101.com/tag/steve-tisch/) sat down with Jets owner Woody Johnson and the collective group considered a retractable roof. However, Tisch revealed on Friday that plan was scrapped due to the immense cost of said roof. It, alone, would have cost an additional $500 million to build (https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/status/297420687612735488)." Read more...

jomo
02-02-2013, 08:12 AM
If the stadium were built in Texax we could have had the roof thrown in at the same price. Construction costs in the tri-state area with everyone getting their "piece" are prohibitive.

Redeyejedi
02-02-2013, 08:15 AM
If the stadium were built in Texax we could have had the roof thrown in at the same price. Construction costs in the tri-state area with everyone getting their "piece" are prohibitive. Yeah the cost of Labor is really high. Union construction workers get paid a good wage. Especially Electrical workers. Its not the Hourly amount in the take home which is good but the pension plan and benefits add another 50% as well.

GameTime
02-02-2013, 08:22 AM
yeah....oh well. You live where you live....

Its an open air stadium....the way it should be.

RoanokeFan
02-02-2013, 08:24 AM
If the stadium were built in Texax we could have had the roof thrown in at the same price. Construction costs in the tri-state area with everyone getting their "piece" are prohibitive.

They actually paid a premium to guarantee construction was on time

RoanokeFan
02-02-2013, 08:25 AM
yeah....oh well. You live where you live....

Its an open air stadium....the way it should be.

Football as it was meant to be played!

nhpgiantsfan
02-02-2013, 08:32 AM
I agree I would never want to have a home Giants game in doors. But if they put a retractable roof on the stadium, they probably could've made that $500 million back pretty quickly with all of the "other" events that they could've booked in the building, all year long, over the life of the building.

Cool Papa B.
02-02-2013, 08:37 AM
I'm glad they didn't do it. Football is meant to be played outdoors with the wind, snow, rain, etc. I'm still upset they didn't put natural grass in MetLife instead of the artificial stuff.

Jet-Blue
02-02-2013, 08:55 AM
I'm pretty sure the $500M was not just for the roof but the entire enclosure and the HVAC. I heard the "Roof" was like $300 M and the balance was for the exterior enclosure up-grade and the HVAC System. The original "West-Side" Stadium that the Jets had planned before the city said no, had a retractable roof planned. If they had gotten rid of the futuristic design of the "Razor Blade" look, they could have had a retactable roof for the same price they paid.

jomo
02-02-2013, 09:01 AM
They actually paid a premium to guarantee construction was on timeThat's a little backward isn't it?

krygny
02-02-2013, 09:05 AM
yeah....oh well. You live where you live....

Its an open air stadium....the way it should be.

That and nobody here should refer to it by any other name than

GIANTS STADIUM

Redeyejedi
02-02-2013, 09:07 AM
They actually paid a premium to guarantee construction was on time Which never happens without boat loads of extra cash for anyone that is involved with large construction will testify to. Tons of wasted OT and man power

mike kennedy
02-02-2013, 12:11 PM
http://www.giants101.com/2013/02/02/metlife-stadium-nearly-had-retractable-roof-but-new-york-giantsnew-york-jets-passed-due-to-price/

Excerpt: "Super Bowl XLVIII is still more than a year away, but it's been shrouded in controversy since day one due to MetLife Stadium (http://www.giants101.com/tag/metlife-stadium-2/), home of both the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants and New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Jets, being an outdoor stadium. Many fear NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/)'s biggest game will suffer because of cold temperatures and potential inclement weathers. Some have even gone as far as to call it "******ed." (http://www.giants101.com/2013/01/29/baltimore-ravens-joe-flacco-on-new-yorknew-jersey-super-bowl-its-******ed/)

It's a concern that was taken into account while building the new Meadowlands stadium. Giants co-owners John Mara (http://www.giants101.com/tag/john-mara/) and Steve Tisch (http://www.giants101.com/tag/steve-tisch/) sat down with Jets owner Woody Johnson and the collective group considered a retractable roof. However, Tisch revealed on Friday that plan was scrapped due to the immense cost of said roof. It, alone, would have cost an additional $500 million to build (https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/status/297420687612735488)." Read more...



That's ny metropolition area Union pricing along with a 39% automatic markup for undisclosed fees, bumps down the road and Island vacations for all the boys who moved their pens.
A clear bad decision all round! Maybe they should of doubled their P $ L fees for a better overhead.

Sundown
02-02-2013, 12:28 PM
Not sure what all the *****en is about by some media, players and fans; the rich snobs will be in suites and the diehard fans will be happy just to be at a SB and the players get paid to play wherever they're told. Some people need to get over it.

keyofgmen
02-02-2013, 12:29 PM
As an ole time fan since Yankee Stadium days, I too believe football should be played in frozen mud. However, I think it was short-sighted to not have a retractable dome. You could have it open for all football games if you wanted, or you could close it at times it would be beneficial. I've sat in my seats many a time when it would have been nice to have been a bit warner!! LOL. Extra events could be held without concern for weather.
To have SB with risk of a nor'easter is plain silly. I have only been to one SB (Tampa ) and most of the fun was walking around outdoors enjoying the full atmosphere. I plan on being around for SB game next year (hopefully watching Eli win another MVP!). But I don't see enjoying the same atmosphere. SB should be in warm area because of what it is..a spectacle..

RoanokeFan
02-02-2013, 12:32 PM
That's a little backward isn't it?

Yes, but they wanted the guarantee. Skansa would have taken a huge loss if they had run over

GameTime
02-02-2013, 01:34 PM
That and nobody here should refer to it by any other name than

GIANTS STADIUM

agreed....thats what I call it....

GameTime
02-02-2013, 01:36 PM
That's ny metropolition area Union pricing along with a 39% automatic markup for undisclosed fees, bumps down the road and Island vacations for all the boys who moved their pens.
A clear bad decision all round! Maybe they should of doubled their P $ L fees for a better overhead.
what other choice did they have?? They wanted to rebuild....so this is what we all have now....

greenca190
02-02-2013, 01:56 PM
I was all for a retractable roof until learning that the NFL mandates you close it up if it's too cold or if the weather conditions aren't perfect. I figured we'd be able to host events there all year long and still have an outdoor football experience during the season.

And just imagine how much the NFL would love to have a super bowl every five years in New York City.

MikeyMike01
02-02-2013, 03:09 PM
I hope there's a goddamn blizzard during the game.

RoanokeFan
02-02-2013, 03:40 PM
Which never happens without boat loads of extra cash for anyone that is involved with large construction will testify to. Tons of wasted OT and man power

No doubt

Roosevelt
02-02-2013, 04:25 PM
That's a little backward isn't it?

Don't forget Jomo, these are people who initially estimated the stadium would cost $800 million to build. They were only off by $900 million.

gmen0820
02-02-2013, 04:27 PM
Damn mob shakedowns.

penguinfarmer
02-02-2013, 04:50 PM
It's no surprise. A static dome can get expensive due to it's span itself. Nixing the retractable roof saves money not just on material, mechanical and labor, but it completely alters the way the rest of the stadium is built.

thomasjmarino
02-02-2013, 09:26 PM
I agree I would never want to have a home Giants game in doors. But if they put a retractable roof on the stadium, they probably could've made that $500 million back pretty quickly with all of the "other" events that they could've booked in the building, all year long, over the life of the building.

Definitely!

JPP=BEASTMODE
02-03-2013, 03:03 AM
I hope there's a goddamn blizzard during the game.That would be the ****.

BMW
02-03-2013, 09:08 AM
They would of made the 500 million back within a year with events.