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WinterIsComing
02-07-2013, 04:54 PM
For 7 million a year we could sign one of the FA tackles in the league. I would really like to see us go after Brandon Albert from the chiefs. It would make for a significant upgrade on our Oline, similar to when we signed Kmac.

RoanokeFan
02-07-2013, 04:56 PM
If they can significantly reduce his paycheck and use him in rotatoin only, he'd be worth an other season becasue of his versatility along the oline.

DarkSaint
02-07-2013, 05:02 PM
For 7 million a year we could sign one of the FA tackles in the league. I would really like to see us go after Brandon Albert from the chiefs. It would make for a significant upgrade on our Oline, similar to when we signed Kmac. I think someone posted that we still have to pay like 6mil to Diehl if cut. That's 6mil+ whatever we pay the FA. I agree with RF, if he takes a pay cut, he will be useful in a limited role in a rotation.

Toadofsteel
02-07-2013, 05:12 PM
I'd be willing to risk cutting him outright then offering him a 1 mil 1 year contract to play backup...

Flip Empty
02-07-2013, 05:25 PM
Cutting him would free up around $2 million

RoanokeFan
02-07-2013, 05:30 PM
I'd be willing to risk cutting him outright then offering him a 1 mil 1 year contract to play backup...

Could happen unless he agrees to a cut. Same result, different process.

Redeyejedi
02-07-2013, 05:30 PM
Cutting him would free up around $2 millionIf it only saves that much might as a well keep him.

gmen0820
02-07-2013, 05:31 PM
Cutting him would free up around $2 millionEven if it saved nothing, he's just awful.

sharick88
02-07-2013, 05:38 PM
We're stuck with Diehl. We have to pay him 6 mil regardless. It sux, but it is what it is.

egyptian420
02-07-2013, 05:46 PM
Even if it saved nothing, he's just awful.Seriously...

drewz
02-07-2013, 07:13 PM
Even if it saved nothing, he's just awful.

Amen. I don't give a damn how many positions on the line he can play. Thats 5 different positions he can hurt us at. Mark my words, if he's on this team next year Coughlin will find a way to put him in the lineup.

GiantRoc
02-07-2013, 07:25 PM
I don't know. Maybe he is a better guard than a tackle. It would really suck to eat $6 Mil cutting him. I just don't want to see him out on the end getting blown by. Maybe if he is at guard, the DT may bump into other guys on the way and that will slow his rush a bit. smh. It's like hiding the weenie kid in right field and hoping no one hits that way.

Flip Empty
02-07-2013, 07:42 PM
if he's on this team next year Coughlin will find a way to put him in the lineup.
It's almost as if Reese has to save him from himself haha

Mr. G-Man
02-07-2013, 08:22 PM
the giants should be smart and realize no other team in the NFL wants david diehl. if the guy is looking to play another year of football he'll have to sign with the giants and for really cheap

slipknottin
02-07-2013, 08:43 PM
Cutting Diehl saves 4.825 million

Flip Empty
02-07-2013, 08:57 PM
How so? Doesn't he have $2 mil of his guaranteed counting towards this season?

RagTime Blue
02-07-2013, 09:03 PM
Cutting Diehl saves 4.825 million

In salary paid to Diehl or in cap space?

brad
02-07-2013, 09:03 PM
Cutting Diehl saves 4.825 million

If this is accurate, he is as good as gone

slipknottin
02-07-2013, 09:17 PM
How so? Doesn't he have $2 mil of his guaranteed counting towards this season?

Doesnt matter, that $2 mil hits the cap no matter what they do.

Cutting diehl removes his entire base salary + whatever other bonus (workout, roster, etc)

slipknottin
02-07-2013, 09:18 PM
In salary paid to Diehl or in cap space?

If Diehl is cut he gets no money.

Saves just under $5 mil in cap space

Drez
02-07-2013, 09:20 PM
For 7 million a year we could sign one of the FA tackles in the league. I would really like to see us go after Brandon Albert from the chiefs. It would make for a significant upgrade on our Oline, similar to when we signed Kmac.His salary is $4.1m. You have to separate salary and bonus money when thinking about how much a player is making. We're on the hook, cap-wise, for $3.35m for Diehl no matter what.

Edit: I think part of that $3.35 is a workout bonus. If it's like most of the other contracts it's $250k. So, we'd be on the hook for $3.1m. I'm going to take a look now and update.

slipknottin
02-07-2013, 09:21 PM
His salary is $4.1m. You have to separate salary and bonus money when thinking about how much a player is making. We're on the hook, cap-wise, for $3.35m for Diehl no matter what.

No, on the hook for 2 mil cap wise no matter what.

Giants would save his entire 4.475 base salary + other bonuses like workout/roster bonuses.

Drez
02-07-2013, 09:24 PM
No, on the hook for 2 mil cap wise no matter what.

Giants would save his entire 4.475 base salary + other bonuses like workout/roster bonuses.Yeah, looks like his numbers have changed since the last time I looked. Either that or I got it confused with someone else's.

Captain Chaos
02-07-2013, 09:59 PM
Cutting Diehl saves 4.825 million

Seems like a reasonable cut...

JJC7301
02-07-2013, 10:21 PM
I like Diehl for his ability to play both T and G, but not as a starter. $7M is too much. Would rather see him cut than AB.

Harooni
02-07-2013, 10:55 PM
all i would ask as a gm is how fast could i do this.

miked1958
02-07-2013, 10:58 PM
For 7 million a year we could sign one of the FA tackles in the league. I would really like to see us go after Brandon Albert from the chiefs. It would make for a significant upgrade on our Oline, similar to when we signed Kmac.i agree. Thank him for helping us to two SBs. Shake hands with him and part ways. He needs to be released for that kind of money

Redeyejedi
02-07-2013, 10:58 PM
Cutting Diehl saves 4.825 millionThats worth it but the guys saying cut him if we save only a million is rather pointless. Id keep him as a back up for that.

Tommy_Ribs
02-08-2013, 12:40 AM
This may sound too harsh, but at this point in his career, I would not want Diehl at even a modest salary.

He was a good player, but at this point, he is a turnstile. He can't get it done anymore.

When our O-Line played at its best last year, he was riding the pine.

primetime
02-08-2013, 01:02 AM
This may sound too harsh, but at this point in his career, I would not want Diehl at even a modest salary.

He was a good player, but at this point, he is a turnstile. He can't get it done anymore.

When our O-Line played at its best last year, he was riding the pine.
Not harsh at all, pretty much sums up how Diehl has been playing the past two seasons. Playing offensive line is a very demanding position on your body, and it's not like Diehl is going to find the fountain of youth this offseason.
People say he's a valuable back up, I don't know about that. Yes he can play two positions, but how quickly we forget how poorly he played at guard. I think the Giants should say thank you for the years of service but we're heading in another direction. With that find a suitable depth lineman in the draft or free agency.