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born blue
02-12-2013, 09:55 PM
So far folks seem to post about intriguing late round prospects in various threads -- mocks, "a look at '12-'13", new threads, etc. Thought it may be worth it to create a thread where folks could alert everyone of someone who just blew them away after reading a draft profile or watching some tape over on draftbreakdown. This is for the the Miguel Maysonets of the world, not for the Alec Ogletrees. We all want to uncover the diamond in the rough and know what proday to check in on.

So, who are you round 4-7 steals?

I'll start...Dennis Johnson, RB, Ark. Haven't seen him in 4 round mocks, so don't know where he'll go, but the kid seems to fit what we need as a DW compliment.

tdawg1413
02-12-2013, 10:06 PM
I have another Rb in mind, George Winn from the University of Cincinnati. 5-11 and 220 lbs and powerful. Reminds me of Alfred Morris as he does not have long speed but has excellent power and pretty good vision. Would be a great compliment to Wilson in the future. Check out his video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuwdTstW1Jg

Redeyejedi
02-12-2013, 10:09 PM
So far folks seem to post about intriguing late round prospects in various threads -- mocks, "a look at '12-'13", new threads, etc. Thought it may be worth it to create a thread where folks could alert everyone of someone who just blew them away after reading a draft profile or watching some tape over on draftbreakdown. This is for the the Miguel Maysonets of the world, not for the Alec Ogletrees. We all want to uncover the diamond in the rough and know what proday to check in on.

So, who are you round 4-7 steals?

I'll start...Dennis Johnson, RB, Ark. Haven't seen him in 4 round mocks, so don't know where he'll go, but the kid seems to fit what we need as a DW compliment.
Dennis Johnson is very good but he is a fumbler

tdawg1413
02-12-2013, 10:11 PM
Dennis Johnson is very good but he is a fumbler

Redeye, what do you think of Winn? Could be nice value in the 6th.

born blue
02-12-2013, 10:18 PM
Dennis Johnson is very good but he is a fumbler

So was Tiki...just saying. TC can (maybe) fix that. You cut the vid of him in 2011 against So. Car. & someone else (I think). Sure he returned a kick for TD and showed nice moves, but he also showed good blitz pickup instincts...a key for a 3rd down back.

Anyway, I don't want to make this thread about DJ or only RBs...for example, someone created a thread about Bass, DE, from some small school in MO. Checked out a few highlights, and maybe the kid has game...

juice33s
02-12-2013, 11:55 PM
I have another Rb in mind, George Winn from the University of Cincinnati. 5-11 and 220 lbs and powerful. Reminds me of Alfred Morris as he does not have long speed but has excellent power and pretty good vision. Would be a great compliment to Wilson in the future. Check out his video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuwdTstW1Jg
Nice find, the guy looks like a very solid runningback.

Here's another off the radar guy, JUCO WR Courtney Gardener http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPYfjUFdtVs
Draft insider Tony Pauline is hearing junior college WR product Courtney Gardner's name is making rounds in the NFL scouting community.
Gardner just finished his time at Sierra College and was expected to attend Oklahoma in the fall, but academic issues forced him to the NFL instead. The big bodied (6'3/215) is extremely smooth on his cuts after the catch and physical skills appear to have scouts intrigued. He recorded a 10.7 second 100 meter run in the last few years
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPYfjUFdtVs)

juice33s
02-13-2013, 12:12 AM
DE Armonty Bryant 6'5 265 85 inch wings span, school record in sacks. NFl scouts have compared him to Demarcus Ware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxEfFmRESg

He was invited to the NFL combine...guys gonna be a riser

nycsportzfan
02-13-2013, 12:17 AM
Blaize Foltz G TCU- Seen his stock all over the place, from 4th-7th. Expierenced player who fits our kinda gritty Olinemen of recent past..

Tanner Hawkinson OT Kansas- I can remember awhile back(like yr before last) Hawkinson was talked about as future 1st rder... Hes a solid pass protector who has some athletic ability, and room to add weight on his frame.. A ton of expierence as well...

Khalid Wooten CB Nevada- 6ft 200lber with some ball skills and solid speed... Worth a flier late...

Nick Kasa TE Colorado- This kids gonna go higher then some might think.. Athletic, good sized TE, whos just tipping the scales on his upside.. Converted DE..

Conner Vernon WR Duke- i think he could be a really good mid rd pickup if were worried about losing Cruz and don't want to draft early rd WR..

TJ Moe WR Mizzo- I like WR's like Moe and Vernon.. They got that Branden Stokley, Julian Edelman , feel to em... Moe reminds me of Stokley and Vernon reminds me of a more expierenced Edelman(vernon has more expierence at the postiton then edelman did)..


These guys are mixed sleepers, with some maybe going as high as RD 4, all the way down to 7th rd and possibly priority FA.. I got alot more, but i'll let others add some..

nycsportzfan
02-13-2013, 12:21 AM
Another WR that is really flying under radars is JOSH BOYCE TCU.. He should've went back to school, but hes definetly got talent..

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-13-2013, 01:54 AM
DE Armonty Bryant 6'5 265 85 inch wings span, school record in sacks. NFl scouts have compared him to Demarcus Ware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxEfFmRESg

He was invited to the NFL combine...guys gonna be a riser

kid looks like a monster. I never hold it against a kid for going to a small school in a day and age when so many great NFL players went to small schools themselves. Andre Reed is from my town, went to the rival HS, and locally to Kutztown University,,talk about a small school and a hell of a WR. Best of luck to the young man and why not take a look at him in the later rounds.

Redeyejedi
02-13-2013, 11:23 AM
kid looks like a monster. I never hold it against a kid for going to a small school in a day and age when so many great NFL players went to small schools themselves. Andre Reed is from my town, went to the rival HS, and locally to Kutztown University,,talk about a small school and a hell of a WR. Best of luck to the young man and why not take a look at him in the later rounds. Would u hold it against him being arrested for selling Marijuana to undercover cops in the middle of practice during water breaks

teaneck
02-13-2013, 02:04 PM
Ive seen Blaize and Boyce play for three years down here in Fort Worth. I like Boyce as an inside guy, hes crafty. But I've also seen him make amazing plays down the field.

Blaize is Blaize, he's good, protected Andy Dalton. Then protected our druggie QB, and I hope he can protect Eli in the future.

dannyboomboom1
02-13-2013, 05:13 PM
DE Armonty Bryant 6'5 265 85 inch wings span, school record in sacks. NFl scouts have compared him to Demarcus Ware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxEfFmRESg

He was invited to the NFL combine...guys gonna be a riser
This kid played on a div 2 team that went 6-5.... At best he will be an undrafted FA that will land on a practice squad for 3 years before competing for a special teams job.

dannyboomboom1
02-13-2013, 05:14 PM
Blaize Foltz G TCU- Seen his stock all over the place, from 4th-7th. Expierenced player who fits our kinda gritty Olinemen of recent past..

Tanner Hawkinson OT Kansas- I can remember awhile back(like yr before last) Hawkinson was talked about as future 1st rder... Hes a solid pass protector who has some athletic ability, and room to add weight on his frame.. A ton of expierence as well...

Khalid Wooten CB Nevada- 6ft 200lber with some ball skills and solid speed... Worth a flier late...

Nick Kasa TE Colorado- This kids gonna go higher then some might think.. Athletic, good sized TE, whos just tipping the scales on his upside.. Converted DE..

Conner Vernon WR Duke- i think he could be a really good mid rd pickup if were worried about losing Cruz and don't want to draft early rd WR..

TJ Moe WR Mizzo- I like WR's like Moe and Vernon.. They got that Branden Stokley, Julian Edelman , feel to em... Moe reminds me of Stokley and Vernon reminds me of a more expierenced Edelman(vernon has more expierence at the postiton then edelman did)..


These guys are mixed sleepers, with some maybe going as high as RD 4, all the way down to 7th rd and possibly priority FA.. I got alot more, but i'll let others add some..

I am a huge fan of Moe and think he will be a surprising talent in the NFL much like TY Hilton. Also am I big fan of Foltz late...

nycsportzfan
02-13-2013, 09:52 PM
I am a huge fan of Moe and think he will be a surprising talent in the NFL much like TY Hilton. Also am I big fan of Foltz late... Ya, if Moe had a good QB his entire Career, he'd be talked about as a 3rd-4th rder most likely.. Its amazing how much of a team game this sport is.. Now MOE will be lucky to go before the mid 6th probably, all because hes had bums throwing em footballs...

NYGfanSTRICK
02-15-2013, 06:35 PM
Have you guys heard of this guy Reggie Dunn from Utah? I would imagine he is probably projected 6-undrafted. I would actually kind of like to see us bring this guy in for KR's. I know Wilson was a good KR last year but I would like for the giants to use him almost exclusively at RB. Anyways this kid Dunn last year had 10 returns and he took 4 to the house! I mean its not like he could keep that pace up but shows that he can take it the distance. Interesting player regardless

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-15-2013, 07:01 PM
Would u hold it against him being arrested for selling Marijuana to undercover cops in the middle of practice during water breaks

could be worse,,did he learn his lesson? or still a knucklehead?

Redeyejedi
02-15-2013, 07:39 PM
could be worse,,did he learn his lesson? or still a knucklehead?I have no idea I just thought it was funny. 1 of the draft sites did an interview with him last week I didnt read it yet. in the tweet it said he talked about it

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-15-2013, 07:44 PM
I have no idea I just thought it was funny. 1 of the draft sites did an interview with him last week I didnt read it yet. in the tweet it said he talked about it

funny it is,,,really?, he did it at practice? take that honey badger!

BlessedinBlue22
02-15-2013, 08:08 PM
Was impressed, could be another Ramses Barden Project. They said Barden was jerry rice or beat his records..comin out of Cal Poly, just has been really buried on the depth chart. Manningham had a marijuana issue also, and turned out ok, and bradshaw had some issues as well. i'd draft him in the 7th like Kuhn.

Redeyejedi
02-15-2013, 08:20 PM
funny it is,,,really?, he did it at practice? take that honey badger!Yeah during Water Breaks he ran over and sold pot to undercover cops. Theres a little bit of hype about this kid and its hard to tell how good he really is from these games. The same thing happened with Adrian Hamilton and he went undrafted. Sometimes agents get draft sites to write articles and push their guys.

Redeyejedi
02-15-2013, 08:21 PM
Was impressed, could be another Ramses Barden Project. They said Barden was jerry rice or beat his records..comin out of Cal Poly, just has been really buried on the depth chart. Manningham had a marijuana issue also, and turned out ok, and bradshaw had some issues as well. i'd draft him in the 7th like Kuhn. 1 thing to smoke pot another to sell weed during practice. Hosley failed the combine test for weed

BlessedinBlue22
02-15-2013, 08:26 PM
Easier to turn from being a drug dealer when u get a NFL contract and money, no need to get on that grind. Howveer, when u a drug user, abuser, addict it's a lot harder to change to transform that lifestyle, kick that habit. Plus, Hosley hasn't been a problem either..

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-15-2013, 08:27 PM
Easier to turn from being a drug dealer when u get a NFL contract and money, no need to get on that grind. Howveer, when u a drug user, abuser, addict it's a lot harder to change to transform that lifestyle, kick that habit. Plus, Hosley hasn't been a problem either..

really? tell that to Sam Hurd.

Redeyejedi
02-16-2013, 08:56 AM
Armonty needs to listen to Biggie’s 10 Crack Commandments on repeat for the next 24 hours.

If you are football player, selling weed during practice is probably not the best way to stay off the radar. The details from the Sports Grid lead me to believe that Bryant isn’t on the honor roll at ECU (if he is they need to change the criteria).

Bryant was selling $20 bags of weed during practice to an undercover police officer not once, but TWICE.

So, after the D Line drills when everyone else was on a water break, Bryant was trying to be Rick Ross? The real Rick Ross, not the rapper who stole his name.

I can’t wait until Armonty (nice name) shows up on World’s Dumbest Criminals on TRUtv.



Im more concerned about the lack of respect to do it during practice then the actual selling of marijuana