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CowboysSuck
02-13-2013, 02:20 PM
According to Mel Kiper's infinite NFL knowledge, the Giants may be looking to go TE in the 1st round.

The question is why? Bennet was damn solid. Robinson has yet to see the field. We always have Pascoe. And I'm sure we could bring in a cheap FA TE for security reasons.

Why do we need a TE in round 1? How about an OL or DL or LB?

http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl-draft/2013/2/13/3984932/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-conference-call-new-york-giants

Toadofsteel
02-13-2013, 02:23 PM
There was one NFL writer that projected us taking Tyler Eifert while leaving Ansah and Johnson on the board...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReXZeZYtgWoTGIj7u9-DurVd7WC1MOQt7K9aNvStiVjqfmUCvW

BlueJayC
02-13-2013, 02:23 PM
Because Mel Kiper is a moron.

And even though the Giants typically go with the best player on the board round 1 I would be irate as they have much more pressing needs to fill which I don't believe they'll address before the draft.

Rusty192
02-13-2013, 02:29 PM
If the guy was the next Antonio Gates I wouldn't mind much.

BlueJayC
02-13-2013, 02:31 PM
Two words.....Adrien Robinson.......take TE off the board as a need.

ryan12
02-13-2013, 02:32 PM
There was one NFL writer that projected us taking Tyler Eifert while leaving Ansah and Johnson on the board...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReXZeZYtgWoTGIj7u9-DurVd7WC1MOQt7K9aNvStiVjqfmUCvW

eifert is a stud although we have other needs i couldnt and wouldnt be made if we drafted him

Carter.525
02-13-2013, 02:37 PM
poo poo Kiper

B-Red22
02-13-2013, 02:48 PM
Well if kiper said it then it must be true!!!!

PBTimmons
02-13-2013, 02:54 PM
RB and TE in the first round in back to back drafts...Yeah, seems legit

TheAnalyst
02-13-2013, 02:55 PM
I like Mike Mayock in the rounds 1-2, and Mel Kiper rounds 3-7. Kiper knows a ton about everyone, including the guys getting drafted in the last couple of rounds, but Mayock knows more about the teams drafting the players in the first couple of rounds.

titwio
02-13-2013, 03:04 PM
A TE IMO is not worth 19th overall pick. That would be saying that Eifert, Ertz or Kelce is the 19th best player in the draft....which is a ridiculous notion. Even if the Giants lose Bennett, I very much doubt Reese would prioritize filling that role in the first round.

Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham, Kyle Rudolph....those guys didn't go in the first round. The only reason Vernon Davis went in round one was because he tore up the combine and ran a 4.3. None of the guys this year will do that.

What I'm trying to say is....NO WAY the Giants take a TE at 19.

RoanokeFan
02-13-2013, 03:09 PM
A TE IMO is not worth 19th overall pick. That would be saying that Eifert, Ertz or Kelce is the 19th best player in the draft....which is a ridiculous notion. Even if the Giants lose Bennett, I very much doubt Reese would prioritize filling that role in the first round.

Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham, Kyle Rudolph....those guys didn't go in the first round. The only reason Vernon Davis went in round one was because he tore up the combine and ran a 4.3. None of the guys this year will do that.

What I'm trying to say is....NO WAY the Giants take a TE at 19.


I tend to agree with this. Reese touted Robinson as the JPP of tight ends. While he may still be developing, if they don't sign Bennett, which I think they will do, I just don't see us going with a TE in the first round when we need so much more help

penguinfarmer
02-13-2013, 03:27 PM
Whatever Mel says, the opposite is bound to occur.

Carter.525
02-13-2013, 03:30 PM
McShay >>>>>> Kiper

ny06
02-13-2013, 03:41 PM
We're going to listen to a guy (Mel Kiper Jr) who's hair hasn't moved since 1985?

PBTimmons
02-13-2013, 03:44 PM
We're going to listen to a guy (Mel Kiper Jr) who's hair hasn't moved since 1985?

That's not hair. It's an antennae through which he receives these type of insider tips.

Mercury
02-13-2013, 03:45 PM
We're going to listen to a guy (Mel Kiper Jr) who's hair hasn't moved since 1985?

Wrong. After his last orgasm in 1986, it was reported that his hair stood on end.

ALLnygIN
02-13-2013, 03:53 PM
If we draft a tight end in the first round i'll flip my ****. We don't need a 1st round draft pick wasted on the TE position.. besides, I still think we could get Bennett back for cheap, and even if not we could still get a solid prospect in later rounds.

jomo
02-13-2013, 03:55 PM
According to Mel Kiper's infinite NFL knowledge, the Giants may be looking to go TE in the 1st round.

The question is why? Bennet was damn solid. Robinson has yet to see the field. We always have Pascoe. And I'm sure we could bring in a cheap FA TE for security reasons.

Why do we need a TE in round 1? How about an OL or DL or LB?

http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl-draft/2013/2/13/3984932/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-conference-call-new-york-giants The real question is why would you fret about anything Kiper says?

DownWitJPP
02-13-2013, 04:43 PM
there are a few mocks on NFL.com that have us taking TE Tyler Eifert from Notre Dame. I just don't see that happening, there are way better values at 19 then a TE. One even has DJ Fluker dropping to us at 19...i don't see that happening either but I would be very happy if we got him

Cloud57
02-13-2013, 04:49 PM
Why do we need to draft a TE when we have the JPP of TEs, unless this guy is a bust and we don't know

DownWitJPP
02-13-2013, 04:55 PM
Why do we need to draft a TE when we have the JPP of TEs, unless this guy is a bust and we don't know

If Bennett doesn't re-sign that will leave us with 2 TE's on the roster not counting the guy we signed a few weeks ago Jamie Childers. No way we bring back Beckum inless its for the vet minimum. We could use another TE just nowhere near the first round

TheEnigma
02-13-2013, 04:56 PM
Just take a TE later in the draft. It's a deep class and it's not like Ertz or Eifert are that much better than the guys in the later rounds.

Carter.525
02-13-2013, 05:07 PM
Just take a TE later in the draft. It's a deep class and it's not like Ertz or Eifert are that much better than the guys in the later rounds.

I like Kelce from Cinn in the 3rd.. maybe 4th

JesseJames
02-13-2013, 05:10 PM
We're going to listen to a guy (Mel Kiper Jr) who's hair hasn't moved since 1985? I think its starting to move backwards...

Captain Chaos
02-15-2013, 08:57 PM
There's your first mistake thinking Kiper's knows anything at all.

drewz
02-15-2013, 10:29 PM
Those same mocks had us taking Coby Fleener last year..

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-15-2013, 10:32 PM
the kid from colorado, nick kasa is intriguing, reminds me of kevin boss. big, physical kid who is raw talent wise,,just like jerry likes them. there is no way they draft a TE in the first 3 rounds when jerry has had so much luck finding guys like pascoe and boss.

BlessedinBlue22
02-16-2013, 11:49 AM
DION SIMS MSU...this guy can block too. Athletic, fast and can get open. Nice Strong Runs after catch hard to bring down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgAoHNx_6VU

Redeyejedi
02-16-2013, 12:07 PM
DION SIMS MSU...this guy can block too. Athletic, fast and can get open. Nice Strong Runs after catch hard to bring down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgAoHNx_6VU

The guy that made that video did an awesome job

Redeyejedi
02-16-2013, 12:11 PM
Not sure if I posted these but some new 1's fromDBreakdown

Vance Mcdonald vs 3 teams 2011


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tX9dKo8E574

Nick Kasa vs ASU WSU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k9RdSSWC-SQ


Gavin Escobar vs Boise st 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=shM3g5vK1Eg

BlessedinBlue22
02-16-2013, 12:21 PM
Kasa from UCLA is 6'8 kinda like Levine Touleilo of Stanford. But then again we don't know how to use Barden is 6'6 in the red zone.

titwio
02-16-2013, 01:30 PM
The guy that made that video did an awesome job

Yeah I wonder who he is....We can probably use a guy like that around here.

Broadway Blue
02-16-2013, 01:35 PM
If the Giants do go for TE in the first round I hope its Tyler Eifert

Carter.525
02-16-2013, 01:36 PM
If the Giants do go for TE in the first round I hope its Tyler Eifert

in the 2nd..

titwio
02-16-2013, 01:43 PM
All the kittens in the world will get slaughtered if the Giants take a TE in the 1st.

Carter.525
02-16-2013, 02:00 PM
I'll kill my goldfish..

G-Men Surg.
02-16-2013, 07:28 PM
According to Mel Kiper's infinite NFL knowledge, the Giants may be looking to go TE in the 1st round.

The question is why? Bennet was damn solid. Robinson has yet to see the field. We always have Pascoe. And I'm sure we could bring in a cheap FA TE for security reasons.

Why do we need a TE in round 1? How about an OL or DL or LB?

http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl-draft/2013/2/13/3984932/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-conference-call-new-york-giants

It seems like Mel Kiper has lost all his wisdom, the truth of the matter is that it looks like he doesn't do any research anymore. A TE , maybe but there's no way in God's green earth the Giants go after a TE in the 1st.

BlessedinBlue22
02-16-2013, 07:38 PM
It seems like Mel Kiper has lost all his wisdom, the truth of the matter is that it looks like he doesn't do any research anymore. A TE , maybe but there's no way in God's green earth the Giants go after a TE in the 1st.

Well, they did draft Shockey a couple years back in the 1st. But, i don't see even Eiffert making Reese Pull the trigger. They passed on Fleener and Dwayne Allen fell to them in the bottom 2nd and passed. Allen played well for the colts, but i believe this draft is deeper than last years at TE. Dion Sims or even the Williams kid from Bama, are sleepers.

G-Men Surg.
02-16-2013, 07:55 PM
Well, they did draft Shockey a couple years back in the 1st. But, i don't see even Eiffert making Reese Pull the trigger. They passed on Fleener and Dwayne Allen fell to them in the bottom 2nd and passed. Allen played well for the colts, but i believe this draft is deeper than last years at TE. Dion Sims or even the Williams kid from Bama, are sleepers.
I would go as far to say that they are not drafting a 1st round TE even if Bennett isn't resign.

drewz
02-18-2013, 11:31 PM
Well, they did draft Shockey a couple years back in the 1st. But, i don't see even Eiffert making Reese Pull the trigger. They passed on Fleener and Dwayne Allen fell to them in the bottom 2nd and passed. Allen played well for the colts, but i believe this draft is deeper than last years at TE. Dion Sims or even the Williams kid from Bama, are sleepers.

Couple years back? more like 11 years ago

TCHOF
02-19-2013, 08:34 AM
I would go as far to say that they are not drafting a 1st round TE even if Bennett isn't resign.

I'm with you. I would be shocked if we took a TE in the first.

nycsportzfan
02-19-2013, 08:42 AM
A TE IMO is not worth 19th overall pick. That would be saying that Eifert, Ertz or Kelce is the 19th best player in the draft....which is a ridiculous notion. Even if the Giants lose Bennett, I very much doubt Reese would prioritize filling that role in the first round.

Gronkowski, Jimmy Graham, Kyle Rudolph....those guys didn't go in the first round. The only reason Vernon Davis went in round one was because he tore up the combine and ran a 4.3. None of the guys this year will do that.

What I'm trying to say is....NO WAY the Giants take a TE at 19. Ya but u can't look at those guys and think "oh they didn't go in rd 1 so other TE's wont".. if anything those guys and the impact they are making on the league is gonna have teams clamoring to make sure they don't miss out on the next TE they think could give the same kinda impact and draft em early then some of those guys went.. Another words, the careers of Graham, Gronk, Finley, Rudolph, are gonna help Te's get drafted earlier, and not hurt em...

Buddy333
02-19-2013, 09:04 AM
DC Jefferson from RU is going to be on Sirius this morning. Don't know where he will get drafted but he is an interesting prospect. He was recruited as a QB and switched to TE in college. He has never had a really great QB throwing to him but has still shown a lot of promise. Great size and hands.

GiantPride13
02-19-2013, 09:30 AM
I dont agree that the giants should go after a TE in the first round or the first three for that matter. there is TE value in rounds 4-7 Michael williams, vance mcdonald, etc.

The Giants have much bigger holes to fill CB/LB/DT/OL

Plus Eli makes any te look great - Boss/Pasco/Ballard/Bennett

GiantPride13
02-19-2013, 09:33 AM
Two words.....Adrien Robinson.......take TE off the board as a need.

How quickly people give up on a draft pick after just one year. if anything pick up Williams (ALB) int he 6-7 round bc hes a great blocker. nothing higher than that though

titwio
02-19-2013, 03:22 PM
Ya but u can't look at those guys and think "oh they didn't go in rd 1 so other TE's wont".. if anything those guys and the impact they are making on the league is gonna have teams clamoring to make sure they don't miss out on the next TE they think could give the same kinda impact and draft em early then some of those guys went.. Another words, the careers of Graham, Gronk, Finley, Rudolph, are gonna help Te's get drafted earlier, and not hurt em...

I get that but that but the TE class in not exactly weak. IMO I don't see the value of drafting an Eifert in round 1 when these guys haven't clear cut separated themselves from one another. You can pass on a TE in the 1st and still land guys like Kelce or Escobar in other rounds who are not far off at all. I just don't think the value is there for taking one 19th overall is kind of what I'm saying.

888888
02-19-2013, 05:57 PM
Nice analysis by the "Analyst"

Carter.525
02-21-2013, 03:09 PM
simply stopping by to say hello

hello

myles2424
02-21-2013, 03:51 PM
How quickly people give up on a draft pick after just one year. if anything pick up Williams (ALB) int he 6-7 round bc hes a great blocker. nothing higher than that though
Williams will not be around 6-7