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NYG4lifeNYK
02-16-2013, 08:40 PM
http://youtu.be/24FvP-tyyTs

1:42 mark


Speed for days, athleticism, excellent tackling fundamentals, not a liability in coverage, can blitz very well, can really LAY THE WOOD, always around the ball.... it would be a dream if we got him...

Giantslb66
02-16-2013, 08:44 PM
I for one, hope he is there for our pick at 19! We need REAL LBs on this team for a change.
That kind of play at 1:48 is what we need!!

B-Red22
02-16-2013, 08:48 PM
Who is saying they dont want a LB, i have seen a million people on this board say they want Ogletree

giantsfan420
02-16-2013, 09:01 PM
for me, id rather one of the top 3 rated OT if one falls to us, Fisher or Johnson would be awesome imo and our OL would be solid for protecting the edges day 1 considering we re-sign beatty...we will imo. we have brewer tho...so i wouldnt be opposed to a DL 2nd after OT. After DL, LB would be alright I guess. Ogeltree can at least rush the edge some altho if he doesnt have a good DL in front of him, hes gonna be exposed by NFL OL a lot...and he needs to add some to his frame imho as well...i just want the guy who can make the most immediate impact that warrants a selection at the place we select him lol

giantsfan420
02-16-2013, 09:04 PM
and the 1 42 mark, notice the dl kept him clean. when ol get their hands on him, he becomes ineffective

Giantslb66
02-16-2013, 09:07 PM
and the 1 42 mark, notice the dl kept him clean. when ol get their hands on him, he becomes ineffective
You can say that about most LBs, That is kind of them m.o. of a DT.

Rat_bastich
02-16-2013, 09:07 PM
Linebacker is good, but I agree with Reese's best player available and pass rusher usually trumps as BPA. Our defense is predicated on the pass rush first and foremost. Also, this draft is heavy on linebackers and a solid one will most likely fall to us in the second.

Also, for an inside linebacker to be real effective you need a good defensive line. Ray Lewis was successful for so long, not only because of his ability but because he had guys like Siragusa to eat up linemen and fullbacks.

giantsfan420
02-16-2013, 09:09 PM
honestly, hes built like a wr somewhat. he'd be a beast on the edge as a 3-4 pass rushing OLB imo, not really fit for us unless we want to invest some time before using him as a mike...jwill has a lot of ogeltrees skillset

giantsfan420
02-16-2013, 09:11 PM
You can say that about most LBs, That is kind of them m.o. of a DT.eh i guess...notice not one of the highlites above involves shedding a blocker tho or something really...when OL get on him, he's done. and thats not what u want to be saying about any lb in the nfl...at the nfl level, shedding OL becomes a huge part of the job as a LB unless ur a pass defensive specialist

Sovereign
02-16-2013, 09:35 PM
Because every position on defense has holes. I want a good LB corp but I want a CB that doesn't suck like Webster, or DE's that do something unlike Tuck. We are also thin at DT and no impact covering safeties if Phillips leaves.

kNicksGiants
02-16-2013, 09:36 PM
i dont watch college ball other than a game here and there... and i'm far from a talent evaluator... but i've been of the opinion for awhile now that we could really use a playmaking potential star at linebacker. we've had some solid guys over the years but never a true star or guy that makes plays every game to help you win.

i would love if we got a guy like that in this draft. if this guy has that potential i would love the pick.

on the other hand i feel like we've neglected the o-line over the years with beatty being our only high pick on the line. i think the offense is this team's strength and mostly on the arm of eli. we've got receivers, a potential great back... we need the o-line to keep our offense scoring points. so i hope we get o-line, lb or d line in the first 3 rounds.

B&RWarrior
02-16-2013, 09:45 PM
and the 1 42 mark, notice the dl kept him clean. when ol get their hands on him, he becomes ineffective

My exact sentiments, and when you look at the DTs on our roster an there most recent performance makes me wonder if we need to get a DT in the draft. In the end I think it would be a mistake to drat for need in the first round. BPA, no matter what. At 19 I like Ogeltree's chances of being our BPA. The best DTs will be gone as well as the top OL and DEs.

Sovereign
02-16-2013, 09:50 PM
You can't say go BPA and take a MLB in the first unless he's a consensus top 10 pick like Luke was. Or McClain.

Carter.525
02-16-2013, 09:59 PM
I am down for Ogletree..

Drez
02-16-2013, 10:04 PM
WTF are you talking about? The only thing people talk about is how we should either get a LB or OL in the first.

Flip Empty
02-16-2013, 10:06 PM
WTF are you talking about? The only thing people talk about is how we should either get a LB or OL in the first.
This. The topic has been beaten to a pulp.

Sovereign
02-16-2013, 10:07 PM
WTF are you talking about? The only thing people talk about is how we should either get a LB or OL in the first.

LOL and do I care? Who called JPP to the Giants? No one so I couldn't care less. The Giants started two 6th round LBs in 2011 and resigned a vet off the streets and you think all of a sudden they're going to draft a LB in round 1?

And the last time the Giants picked an olineman in the first was since Nam so again you think that's going to be broken? Okay then.

Drez
02-16-2013, 10:13 PM
This. The topic has been beaten to a pulp.For real. Every day there's at least 3 new threads about how we need to take a LB.

B&RWarrior
02-16-2013, 10:15 PM
Wait after Nicks, Wilson, JPP, Prince, KP are we still questioning Reese's preference for BPA in the 1st round? Relax, JR has got this!

Drez
02-16-2013, 10:17 PM
LOL and do I care? Who called JPP to the Giants? No one so I couldn't care less. The Giants started two 6th round LBs in 2011 and resigned a vet off the streets and you think all of a sudden they're going to draft a LB in round 1?

And the last time the Giants picked an olineman in the first was since Nam so again you think that's going to be broken? Okay then.It's been since '99 that we drafted OL in the first. And as far as trends are concerned, before we drafted Wilson last year, it had been since '00 that we drafted a RB in the first.

Carter.525
02-16-2013, 10:23 PM
I think 90% of guys on here want Ogletree

blueribbon
02-16-2013, 11:12 PM
This guy can also play safety.

Toadofsteel
02-16-2013, 11:19 PM
Damn straight I want Ogletree. Unfortunately I want Lane Johnson too... OT is the MOST important position to fill, not LB (though it is a close second)

Carter.525
02-16-2013, 11:23 PM
I got:

1st Ogletree
2nd Sheldon Richardson
3rd Sharrif Floyd
4th Lane Johnson
5th Xavier Rhodes

of the guys that could be there

giantcarll
02-17-2013, 11:19 AM
wasnt he just arrested for DUI.

DIPSET_ALL_DAY
02-17-2013, 12:34 PM
honestly, hes built like a wr somewhat. he'd be a beast on the edge as a 3-4 pass rushing OLB imo, not really fit for us unless we want to invest some time before using him as a mike...jwill has a lot of ogeltrees skillset He was a SS converted to Linebacker...much like Urlacher was. I don't see nothing wrong with that.

He's put as the best Middle Linebacker in the draft by many and he's what we need, he should be our top priority.

TCHOF
02-17-2013, 12:59 PM
Just arrested for DUI. Also a drug suspension in college. He is starting to look less and less like the type of guy that the Giants would take in the first.

tonyt830
02-17-2013, 01:05 PM
Just arrested for DUI. Also a drug suspension in college. He is starting to look less and less like the type of guy that the Giants would take in the first.yup just read it a few minutes ago on espn.com

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8956303/report-alec-ogletree-former-georgia-bulldogs-linebacker-arrested-dui

Between the failed drug test last spring and now this DUI, many teams, including the Giants may question his character. I for one like his physical skills, but he may very well end up being a Kenny Britt like player in the NFL, just my opinion.

TCHOF
02-17-2013, 01:07 PM
I don't ever remember the Giants taking a guy with character concerns in the first round . . . it may have happened, I just don't remember it

Carter.525
02-17-2013, 01:16 PM
I don't ever remember the Giants taking a guy with character concerns in the first round . . . it may have happened, I just don't remember itAustin in the 2nd.. that hasn't turned out great so far

TCHOF
02-17-2013, 01:44 PM
Austin in the 2nd.. that hasn't turned out great so far

That's the second round though . . . and I know he was suspended for his last season in college, but I don't recall him having trouble with drugs or the law.

JPP=BEASTMODE
02-17-2013, 02:27 PM
I for one, hope he is there for our pick at 19! We need REAL LBs on this team for a change.That kind of play at 1:48 is what we need!!He will definitely fall to us at 19 since he got a DUI. He would be a perfect fit for the Cowboys.

slipknottin
02-17-2013, 02:45 PM
Austin in the 2nd.. that hasn't turned out great so far

Austin didnt really have character issues though. Never got arrested or anything. His issues were just resulting from an agent buying him things

Carter.525
02-17-2013, 03:05 PM
Austin didnt really have character issues though. Never got arrested or anything. His issues were just resulting from an agent buying him things

true.. but it is a negative thing

Sovereign
02-17-2013, 06:26 PM
Cross him off the list for the first round. That was fast.

BlueSabbath
02-18-2013, 11:36 AM
Who is saying they dont want a LB, i have seen a million people on this board say they want Ogletree

This... what boards have you been reading?

slipknottin
02-18-2013, 11:57 AM
true.. but it is a negative thing

I dont think its a character red flag though. Far bigger issue with him was him sitting out the entire year.