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tonyt830
02-17-2013, 06:42 PM
Ok, I have hemmed and hawed back and forth if I was going to post my mock drafts this year. Ok I am basing most of my picks not only on need, but of value(hopefully). I have seen some of these guys play moreso than others. I have also taken into account other posters info, videos and input etc. when it comes to the pros and cons of draft prospects. And I cant forget to give some credit to the articles from different sports analysts/writers/prognosticators. I have tried to roll all of that into my first post-bowl, pre-combine, pre-free agency amateur mock.

I may have some guys ranked too low or too high, so please feel free to throw the constructive criticism my way. I do appreciate the input. I probably will submit another in a couple days, since I was back and forth on rankings and/or players and positions.


Rd 1. Arthur Brown LB Kansas St
Rd 2. Kawann Short DT Purdue
Rd 3. Travis Federick OG/C Wisconsin
Rd 4. Darius Slay CB Miss St
Rd 5. Nick Kasa TE Colorado
Rd 6. Quanterus Smith DE Western KY
Rd 7. Zac Stacy RB Vandy

Carter.525
02-17-2013, 06:44 PM
could be a little early for Brown.. but I'd being doing back flips for this draft

tonyt830
02-17-2013, 06:49 PM
I figure with the way the NFL offenses are evolving some(pistol and read option offenses), I figured Arthur Brown would be a good add to our D.

Short, dont know if he will be there in the 2nd rd, could be that added dimension that Reese was hoping with from Austin at DT.

Frederick looks to be another solid O-linemen from Wisconsin, and coule be a LG for us if we lose Boothe to FA, or maybe take over for Snee when the time comes?

Slay did not get the attention that Banks got at Mississippi St, but could be of good value in the 4th.

I may have Kasa ranked too high and would have put him in the 6th rd, but I did not think Qunaterus Smith would go in the 5th after coming off the ACL tear, but who knows.

And I have seen a lot of Zac Stacy down here in Tennessee, and would be a nice darkhorse in the 7th rd for us?

tonyt830
02-17-2013, 06:51 PM
could be a little early for Brown.. but I'd being doing back flips for this draftYeah after reading the news on Ogletree today, I am leaning more towards Brown or Greene. Maybe we can trade back in the 1st to get Brown or if the Giants went D-line or O-line in Rd 1, we can grab Greene in Rd 2.

Carter.525
02-17-2013, 06:59 PM
yea.. in most of my mocks I have either Greene or Brown in the 2nd.. but with the Ogletree news, these 2 might move up some

tonyt830
02-17-2013, 07:15 PM
yea.. in most of my mocks I have either Greene or Brown in the 2nd.. but with the Ogletree news, these 2 might move up somewell if Im wrong and we can get Brown in the 2nd, that would be icing on the cake. I guess the unknown with free agency is what makes it harder to predict and mock a draft.

I would be all for Lane Johnson or Fisher, at 19, if we were fortunate enough for 1 of them to be there at that point. Then we can go LB, DT or CB in the 2nd and 3rd rds.

Sovereign
02-17-2013, 09:04 PM
We're not getting a LB in round one. Reese doesn't even look at them. Akeem Ayers in 2010 said he was shocked that the Giants didn't even talk to him and were one of the few that ignored him. We don't draft LBs early. Our dline and secondary are thin again we're not going for a LB first.

However letting Kawann slide to the 2nd makes up for it. Actually Kawann and Brown should be reversed but we still have far too many needs. If we don't go CB early then we have to rely on Webster again. I don't want to do that.

TCHOF
02-17-2013, 10:06 PM
I don't think that the Giants will take a LB in the first now that Ogeltree has proven that he is an absolute moron. The value just isn't there at #19.

I see Ansah, OL or DT in the first

G-Men Surg.
02-18-2013, 03:00 AM
Ok, I have hemmed and hawed back and forth if I was going to post my mock drafts this year. Ok I am basing most of my picks not only on need, but of value(hopefully). I have seen some of these guys play moreso than others. I have also taken into account other posters info, videos and input etc. when it comes to the pros and cons of draft prospects. And I cant forget to give some credit to the articles from different sports analysts/writers/prognosticators. I have tried to roll all of that into my first post-bowl, pre-combine, pre-free agency amateur mock.

I may have some guys ranked too low or too high, so please feel free to throw the constructive criticism my way. I do appreciate the input. I probably will submit another in a couple days, since I was back and forth on rankings and/or players and positions.


Rd 1. Arthur Brown LB Kansas St
Rd 2. Kawann Short DT Purdue
Rd 3. Travis Federick OG/C Wisconsin
Rd 4. Darius Slay CB Miss St
Rd 5. Nick Casa TE Colorado
Rd 6. Quanterus Smith DE Western KY
Rd 7. Zac Stacy RB Vandy

I love Travis in your mock draft but theres no way he lasts for us in the 3 rd.

GiantPride13
02-18-2013, 02:44 PM
I love the "Zac Stacy RB Vandy" pick

Kid looks like a real monster. Played tough at Vandy. plays low and fast. Reminds me of Ray Rice. short and compact with great lateral quickness to go along with pistons for legs. Would love to see him in blue

tonyt830
02-18-2013, 05:03 PM
I love the "Zac Stacy RB Vandy" pick

Kid looks like a real monster. Played tough at Vandy. plays low and fast. Reminds me of Ray Rice. short and compact with great lateral quickness to go along with pistons for legs. Would love to see him in blueYeah I would be ok with him in the 7th. I watched a lot of Vandy games living in SEC country. I would have no problem with him in the 6th or 7th rd. I would like to see some more competition in camp.

tonyt830
02-18-2013, 05:06 PM
I love Travis in your mock draft but theres no way he lasts for us in the 3 rd.Yeah I hear Frederick has been on the rise per some mocks/analysts. I was torn with my first few picks and probably am off on my 1st 3.

Personally I like what I see from Frederick moreso than Wagner. Wagner did not look good in the Senior Bowl. I guess a lot could change in all of our mocks, especially after the combine and after FA starts. If we lose Beatty, I would love to see Johnson or Fisher in the 1st rd, but Fisher may be a long shot at 19, but who knows.

tonyt830
02-18-2013, 05:10 PM
We're not getting a LB in round one. Reese doesn't even look at them. Akeem Ayers in 2010 said he was shocked that the Giants didn't even talk to him and were one of the few that ignored him. We don't draft LBs early. Our dline and secondary are thin again we're not going for a LB first.

However letting Kawann slide to the 2nd makes up for it. Actually Kawann and Brown should be reversed but we still have far too many needs. If we don't go CB early then we have to rely on Webster again. I don't want to do that.I am all for a CB early. I was torn with 1st and 2nd rd picks in my mock. I would not mind a guy like Rhodes, Trufant, Poyer in rds 1 or 2.

Heck if Brown was available in the 2nd rd for the Giants, I would be happy with that also. I think Brown is what we need in regards to the way offenses are evolving into the pistol and read option. But I would like to see DT addressed either FA or draft. If we could sign Dorsey for a fair contract in FA, then maybe we can focus on CB and O-line in the 1st and 2nd rds.

G-Men Surg.
02-18-2013, 09:08 PM
Yeah I hear Frederick has been on the rise per some mocks/analysts. I was torn with my first few picks and probably am off on my 1st 3.

Personally I like what I see from Frederick moreso than Wagner. Wagner did not look good in the Senior Bowl. I guess a lot could change in all of our mocks, especially after the combine and after FA starts. If we lose Beatty, I would love to see Johnson or Fisher in the 1st rd, but Fisher may be a long shot at 19, but who knows.
He has been up and down in lots of mock drafts by the so called experts but he's always been a high profile player. mayock has him as his No. 1 center and has played all G positions in Wisconsin. I tell you bro , if he gets picked by the Giants ( he is my 2 nd round pick in my mock ) it would make my day and entire draft. He is the real deal bro.

BlessedinBlue22
02-19-2013, 12:02 AM
I really like Kawaan Short in the 2nd. WOuld make up for the Austin bust.pick. He can really get pressure up the middle and is a BIG man lol. If Q smith can recover from the ACL, he should be on the Giants Radar.

Carter.525
02-19-2013, 12:10 AM
I really like Kawaan Short in the 2nd. WOuld make up for the Austin bust.pick. He can really get pressure up the middle and is a BIG man lol. If Q smith can recover from the ACL, he should be on the Giants Radar.

If Short does at the Combine, what he did at the Senior Bowl.. He'll be a 1st rounder

tonyt830
02-19-2013, 10:09 AM
I really like Kawaan Short in the 2nd. WOuld make up for the Austin bust.pick. He can really get pressure up the middle and is a BIG man lol. If Q smith can recover from the ACL, he should be on the Giants Radar.When it comes to Quanterus Smith, I figured he can get a few reps this coming season but mostly benefit from learning behind JPP, Tuck, Kiwi. He can get stronger and let that ACL completely heal--they say you arent 100% till the 2nd yr back from that type of injury, USUALLY.

tonyt830
02-19-2013, 10:11 AM
If Short does at the Combine, what he did at the Senior Bowl.. He'll be a 1st rounderI agree, the more I think about it, the more that maybe I should have reversed my 1st and 2nd rd picks. But I will give it another shot after the combine, and then again after FA.

Kruunch
02-19-2013, 02:49 PM
Ok, I have hemmed and hawed back and forth if I was going to post my mock drafts this year. Ok I am basing most of my picks not only on need, but of value(hopefully). I have seen some of these guys play moreso than others. I have also taken into account other posters info, videos and input etc. when it comes to the pros and cons of draft prospects. And I cant forget to give some credit to the articles from different sports analysts/writers/prognosticators. I have tried to roll all of that into my first post-bowl, pre-combine, pre-free agency amateur mock.

I may have some guys ranked too low or too high, so please feel free to throw the constructive criticism my way. I do appreciate the input. I probably will submit another in a couple days, since I was back and forth on rankings and/or players and positions.


Rd 1. Arthur Brown LB Kansas St
Rd 2. Kawann Short DT Purdue
Rd 3. Travis Federick OG/C Wisconsin
Rd 4. Darius Slay CB Miss St
Rd 5. Nick Kasa TE Colorado
Rd 6. Quanterus Smith DE Western KY
Rd 7. Zac Stacy RB Vandy

Brown in the first is a bit of a reach and I doubt the Giants pick an ILB in the first under Reese ... ever.

Kawann Short in the second is a solid choice but nothing that will overly excite me (safe pick here).

I don't see the Giants taking an OC/C prospect before a CB in the draft. Especially when OT is more of a need (depending on what happens with Boothe, and where Petrus is on the depth chart).

Solid choices the rest of the way.

This draft wouldn't excite me, but it also wouldn't have me shaking my head (ala the 49ers first pick last year).

NYGfanSTRICK
02-20-2013, 03:38 PM
Ok, I have hemmed and hawed back and forth if I was going to post my mock drafts this year. Ok I am basing most of my picks not only on need, but of value(hopefully). I have seen some of these guys play moreso than others. I have also taken into account other posters info, videos and input etc. when it comes to the pros and cons of draft prospects. And I cant forget to give some credit to the articles from different sports analysts/writers/prognosticators. I have tried to roll all of that into my first post-bowl, pre-combine, pre-free agency amateur mock.

I may have some guys ranked too low or too high, so please feel free to throw the constructive criticism my way. I do appreciate the input. I probably will submit another in a couple days, since I was back and forth on rankings and/or players and positions.


Rd 1. Arthur Brown LB Kansas St
Rd 2. Kawann Short DT Purdue
Rd 3. Travis Federick OG/C Wisconsin
Rd 4. Darius Slay CB Miss St
Rd 5. Nick Kasa TE Colorado
Rd 6. Quanterus Smith DE Western KY
Rd 7. Zac Stacy RB Vandy

Solid draft for sure! Brown although is mostly projected later I have 0 problems with him in the first. We could use a fast LB like that for RG3 and all the the leagues evolving offenses. Quanterus Smith could be an absolute steal, 2 and 7th are nice picks as well man

tonyt830
02-20-2013, 04:26 PM
Solid draft for sure! Brown although is mostly projected later I have 0 problems with him in the first. We could use a fast LB like that for RG3 and all the the leagues evolving offenses. Quanterus Smith could be an absolute steal, 2 and 7th are nice picks as well manYes I think Brown definitely would be the type of LB that would help our D with the pistol and read option offenses. Now granted 19 may be a tad high for him. But who knows how Reese and company will have him ranked after the combine and pro days.

Quanterus Smith needs to pack on a few lbs to play the 4-3 DE in the pros. But there would be no rush to get him on the field. Let the ACL fully heal, and learn behind our current DEs. Who knows, maybe some other team takes a chance on him in the 5th rd.

NYGfanSTRICK
02-21-2013, 12:18 AM
Yeah I like Brown and who knows how JR and the rest of the giants war room rate players. Last year almost eveyone had Doug Martin above Wilson and JR said if Tampa would have no picked him they still would have went with Wilson. I think Reese kind of likes freak athletes but have real promise with them. Not full blown Raiders Syndrome lol but JPP Wilson A.Robinson etc. it would be interesting to see what their board looks like in comparison to some of our rankings.

Toadofsteel
02-21-2013, 01:19 AM
You did take one interior lineman, but no tackles?

gabriel_1
02-21-2013, 02:37 AM
Hey what about, Tharold Simon in the forth? I haven't heard much of of Darius Clay, only that he played along Banks, but Simon is a big corner, physical, but lacks ability with his hands in press coverage.

I like the rest of the picks! Unlike most people I think the Brown will rise significantly with the combine, and the value will be there at 19. We could also pick Ansah, I just think that Brown is more of an instant impact.