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Big Leo
02-25-2013, 01:19 AM
Was not really interested in this guy because of character concerns . I still have them , but after watching this highlight tape ,Id be lying if I said I wasnt excited to have him on our team . Hes a beast , and he was doing it against sec opponents , top talent in the land . Check out the vid






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZOXZcRZNM

Big Leo
02-25-2013, 01:24 AM
Forgot to mention : watch the stop he makes on the goal line against Alabama running back Lacy one on one . Impressive !

giantsfan420
02-25-2013, 01:32 AM
he isnt a stack n shed type LB. He'd need a DL to keep him virtually clean in a 4-3. everyone sees the athleticism and him flying around, and while those things are great, it doesnt make him a mlb. at least not day 1 imo and then i dont want him rd 1 really. i mean id still be stoked with the pick bc he does some edge rushing, is a converted safety, and can be used all over the place, but dont we already have that kinda guy in jwill?

myles2424
02-25-2013, 01:42 AM
he isnt a stack n shed type LB. He'd need a DL to keep him virtually clean in a 4-3. everyone sees the athleticism and him flying around, and while those things are great, it doesnt make him a mlb. at least not day 1 imo and then i dont want him rd 1 really. i mean id still be stoked with the pick bc he does some edge rushing, is a converted safety, and can be used all over the place, but dont we already have that kinda guy in jwill?

Then most of the stack n shed guys can't play the pass....it is what it is, that's the draft.....

jomo
02-25-2013, 02:32 AM
He needs some help on his playlist.

hungrrrry
02-25-2013, 06:21 AM
he isnt a stack n shed type LB. He'd need a DL to keep him virtually clean in a 4-3. everyone sees the athleticism and him flying around, and while those things are great, it doesnt make him a mlb. at least not day 1 imo and then i dont want him rd 1 really. i mean id still be stoked with the pick bc he does some edge rushing, is a converted safety, and can be used all over the place, but dont we already have that kinda guy in jwill?i think converting him back to safety to stop the run would be ideal given his size and speed...I like Te'o as a true MLB but I would not be upset with ogle tree except for the off-field issues. Our three safety defense would love this guy since technically he is both a safety And LB.

gabriel_1
02-25-2013, 07:23 AM
I don't think we should move Ogletree back to safety, he has already put some size; moving him to safety would be just a waist of a good player in my opinion, because ewe need more help at LB.

What we could do thou is get Amerson in the third and convert him back to safety, that would make more sense than Ogletree.

BlueSabbath
02-25-2013, 10:37 AM
I'm with you. REALLY want this guy and have disagreed some posters' opinions of his film. I think it's pretty impressive (stops Lacy dead in his tracks, and I think it was McCallebb from Auburn he got to from behind) . I would be THRILLED to get him at #19. I also disagree that he needs help in front. He gets off of blocks well and is still improving at the position. He played in the SEC and was a star... with all the talen on the field in the SECCG, he stood out. That's impressive.

BlueSanta
02-25-2013, 10:40 AM
As much as I like his play, I do not think he has a chance of being the Giants 1st round pick. Not after that DUI.

Giantslb66
02-25-2013, 11:26 AM
As much as I like his play, I do not think he has a chance of being the Giants 1st round pick. Not after that DUI.
I think the Giants will regret that if thats the way it plays out.

slipknottin
02-25-2013, 11:39 AM
I think the Giants will regret that if thats the way it plays out.
It's not like he's the only good player in the draft. And immaturity makes me nervous about how hard he will work to be a top player. In general handing a guy millions of dollars doesn't make them grow up

Toadofsteel
02-25-2013, 12:08 PM
I think the Giants will regret that if thats the way it plays out.

They won't regret it if they select an OT, which they desperately need MORE than LB...

Carter.525
02-25-2013, 12:54 PM
I want Ogletree as much as the next guy, just don't want to get my hopes up anymore..

TheAnalyst
02-25-2013, 01:10 PM
Quick, name the last LB we drafted in the 1st round.

And the last OT we drafted in the first round.

IMO, those are 2 very thin position for us, and there is a reason we are thin there.

tonyt830
02-25-2013, 01:10 PM
It's not like he's the only good player in the draft. And immaturity makes me nervous about how hard he will work to be a top player. In general handing a guy millions of dollars doesn't make them grow upwhen it comes to immaturity and millions of dollars, all you have to do is look at Kenny Britt---lots of talent, a favorite of some on these boards back then. But a good choice for Reese to pass on him then and go with Nicks.

Like you said in another post, most likely Ogletree is not on the Giants big board at 19, especially after this latest DUI. 3 red flags dont bode well for him to become a Giant

Captain Chaos
02-25-2013, 01:26 PM
The nice thing is that there are other solid ILBs that fit our 4-3 scheme, just not comfortable with his maturity.

StrahanSoup92
02-25-2013, 02:16 PM
It's not like he's the only good player in the draft. And immaturity makes me nervous about how hard he will work to be a top player. In general handing a guy millions of dollars doesn't make them grow up

Yeh but you have these worries with anyone draft pick.

egyptian420
02-25-2013, 02:22 PM
Quick, name the last LB we drafted in the 1st round.

And the last OT we drafted in the first round.

IMO, those are 2 very thin position for us, and there is a reason we are thin there.Yea I don't see us going in that direction either, I'm going to guess we draft a DE or DT

giantsfan420
02-25-2013, 02:23 PM
i found it telling the analysts were commenting how Ogeltree is "gonna be in a lot of trouble if OLmen get their hands on him. They'll swallow him up...He's very lean almost too lean. He looks like a DB standing inbetween LB's."

I will say this, if we're trying to run a Fewell Tampa 2 concept, Ogeltree would prob be the best MLB possible...Urlacher was also a converted safety. He doesnt come close to Ogeltrees measurements tho

Cloud57
02-25-2013, 02:32 PM
what these analysts are saying is that all these players are average and there are no elite defensive players in the draft, so I think it would be a better choice to go with o-line in the 1st round

TCHOF
02-25-2013, 03:18 PM
Yeh but you have these worries with anyone draft pick.

More so with a guy who knows that character concerns might affect his draft status, yet gets popped for DUI one week before the combine. That shows a startling level of stupidity and immaturity.

Giantslb66
02-25-2013, 05:18 PM
It's not like he's the only good player in the draft. And immaturity makes me nervous about how hard he will work to be a top player. In general handing a guy millions of dollars doesn't make them grow up Agreed, he is not. However, he is the type of playmaker the Giants have lacked at the LB spot since Armsted played here. A true sideline to sideline player.

Cloud57
02-25-2013, 05:26 PM
More so with a guy who knows that character concerns might affect his draft status, yet gets popped for DUI one week before the combine. That shows a startling level of stupidity and immaturity.hopefully because of that he will fall to 19 :D

TheEnigma
02-25-2013, 05:31 PM
Ogletree is this year's Fleener lol

Cloud57
02-25-2013, 05:38 PM
Ogletree is this year's Fleener lolwho will be this year's Wilson? you know, the draft pick that nobody wants lol

TheEnigma
02-25-2013, 05:42 PM
who will be this year's Wilson? you know, the draft pick that nobody wants lol

Sam Montgomery. He openly admitted to not giving effort week in and week out during the football season. I'd rage hard if he was drafted by Reese.

Carter.525
02-25-2013, 05:55 PM
who will be this year's Wilson? you know, the draft pick that nobody wants lol

Eifert

BlessedinBlue22
02-25-2013, 05:59 PM
Coradelle Patterson lol, most like Wilson as far as PR and KR's ..guy runs like a RB...followed by Matthieu

TheEnigma
02-25-2013, 06:02 PM
Coradelle Patterson lol, most like Wilson as far as PR and KR's ..guy runs like a RB...followed by Matthieu

Reese does love his WRs but I'm getting a huge Ted Ginn vibe from Patterson. If we do go for another WR, I'd rather take a chance on a late round selection who has a good grasp of route running and maybe some athletic upside.

titwio
02-25-2013, 06:04 PM
Who would of thought of the three Georgia LB's that Alec may be the least athletic?? Cornelius Washington....holy ****!!

TCHOF
02-25-2013, 06:19 PM
hopefully because of that he will fall to 19 :D

He will . . . . but we won't take him.

giantcarll
02-25-2013, 08:30 PM
I think either the Cowboys or Eagles will take him even if they dont need him just to keep us from taking him.

Evo'Ed
02-25-2013, 08:54 PM
Got home and watched the re-run on NFL Network of today's combine and honestly I was not impressed by Ogletree.

Admittedly, I do not watch much CFB at all so most of expectations of him were youtube clips and what I've read from this forum, so I was expecting a really athletic LB.

He looked pretty thin and looked like he could run better than a 4.62.


I will reserve more judgement until his pro day but honestly i was expecting a tad more.

TCHOF
02-25-2013, 09:19 PM
I think either the Cowboys or Eagles will take him even if they dont need him just to keep us from taking him.

Do you honestly believe this?

ELI_HOF_NYG
02-25-2013, 09:46 PM
all the same people who said the giants wouldn't touch te'o are the same ones saying they wont touch ogeltree. the fact of the matter is nobody knows for sure except the FO, all the speculating means nothing.

TCHOF
02-25-2013, 09:49 PM
all the same people who said the giants wouldn't touch te'o are the same ones saying they wont touch ogeltree. the fact of the matter is nobody knows for sure except the FO, all the speculating means nothing.

I guess we'll see in a few months. . . .

TheBookOfEli
02-25-2013, 09:50 PM
What about Kevin Minter? Everyone talks about Olgetree and Teo but i hear Minter is a solid prospect as well. I can't wait to get home so i can watch the rerun of the combine.

slipknottin
02-25-2013, 10:16 PM
What about Kevin Minter? Everyone talks about Olgetree and Teo but i hear Minter is a solid prospect as well. I can't wait to get home so i can watch the rerun of the combine.

Hes 5'11... and really struggles in coverage. Hes an inside hammer.

nycsportzfan
02-26-2013, 08:47 AM
What about Kevin Minter? Everyone talks about Olgetree and Teo but i hear Minter is a solid prospect as well. I can't wait to get home so i can watch the rerun of the combine. Kevin Minter is a machine! Mayock said he has underrated athletic ability that u may not think of when thinking about him, because of how good he plays the run and his size, but he does fly around the field, and this other guy at the combine liked him the best of all the MLB's this yr, and thinks he fits very well in the middle of a 4/3.. I agree.. Minter is a load, and a thumper, with tremendous leadership qualites, and solid instincts...

Redeyejedi
02-26-2013, 11:49 AM
Kevin Minter is a machine! Mayock said he has underrated athletic ability that u may not think of when thinking about him, because of how good he plays the run and his size, but he does fly around the field, and this other guy at the combine liked him the best of all the MLB's this yr, and thinks he fits very well in the middle of a 4/3.. I agree.. Minter is a load, and a thumper, with tremendous leadership qualites, and solid instincts... Minter plays the run real well but in coverage he has issues. He turns his hips way to much in his zone drops

BlueSabbath
02-26-2013, 11:57 AM
Minter plays the run real well but in coverage he has issues. He turns his hips way to much in his zone drops

This. What he does, he does EXTREMELY well. His hips are pretty bad though. Even when pursuing a ball carrier to the outside I've seen him struggle to adjust once the ball carrier turns up field. He's got incredible instincts though and that helps him get involved in a lot of plays and get where he needs to be quickly. He hits hard and doesn't get timid in traffic.. he could be that physical presence I'd like in the middle, but I still have concerns in regards to other aspects of his game.