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RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 01:45 PM
http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/3/17/4115496/victor-cruz-rumors-jim-irsay-new-york-giants-indianapolis-colts-nfl-trade-rumors

Excerpt: "The Internet is on fire today with wild speculation about a potential trade by the New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants) of restricted free agent wide receiver Victor Cruz (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/109584/victor-cruz) to the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts).

Well, everybody just relax for a second. All of this speculation has been stirred up by a series of cryptic tweets from Colts' owner Jim Irsay -- tweets that never mention Cruz or the Giants, but hint at a whopper of a trade for a wide receiver.

Our friends at SB Nation's Colts web site, Stampede Blue, have all of Irsay's chatter (http://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/3/17/4114500/andrew-luck-to-victor-cruz). If you have to see it, go there. I'm not going to repeat it.

While you are reading all the Internet speculation, and fanning the flames of panic among Giants' fans, realize one thing. Not one credible source has caught wind of any of this. Not Adam Schefter (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/313224099952472066) of ESPN. Not Jay Glazer of FOX. Not Albert Breer or Jason LaCanfora from NFL Network. Not Mike Garafolo of USA Today. Not any of the plethora of outstanding beat writers." Read more...

bigjeep
03-17-2013, 01:48 PM
http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/3/17/4115496/victor-cruz-rumors-jim-irsay-new-york-giants-indianapolis-colts-nfl-trade-rumors

Excerpt: "The Internet is on fire today with wild speculation about a potential trade by the New York Giants (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-york-giants) of restricted free agent wide receiver Victor Cruz (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/109584/victor-cruz) to the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts).

Well, everybody just relax for a second. All of this speculation has been stirred up by a series of cryptic tweets from Colts' owner Jim Irsay -- tweets that never mention Cruz or the Giants, but hint at a whopper of a trade for a wide receiver.

Our friends at SB Nation's Colts web site, Stampede Blue, have all of Irsay's chatter (http://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/3/17/4114500/andrew-luck-to-victor-cruz). If you have to see it, go there. I'm not going to repeat it.

While you are reading all the Internet speculation, and fanning the flames of panic among Giants' fans, realize one thing. Not one credible source has caught wind of any of this. Not Adam Schefter (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/statuses/313224099952472066) of ESPN. Not Jay Glazer of FOX. Not Albert Breer or Jason LaCanfora from NFL Network. Not Mike Garafolo of USA Today. Not any of the plethora of outstanding beat writers." Read more...


Your quick!

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 01:52 PM
Your quick!

News is news. Something tells me this is more about Irsay being in the news than Cruz

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 01:53 PM
this could be bad news.. Colts have alot of $$$

gmen0820
03-17-2013, 01:53 PM
Your quick!Quick what?

Sorry, had to lol.

miked1958
03-17-2013, 02:03 PM
seems like all the teams with the shot at making a move for Cruz have a draft pick either close to or way above ours. If we lose him i would want it to be someone in top 10 or 15 picks

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 02:07 PM
I don't want to lose Cruz, at all.. but better this year then next year

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 02:08 PM
seems like all the teams with the shot at making a move for Cruz have a draft pick either close to or way above ours. If we lose him i would want it to be someone in top 10 or 15 picks

Every team mentioned so far has dropped out of the hunt if the fox ever left the barn.

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 02:10 PM
News is news. Something tells me this is more about Irsay being in the news than Cruz

The AFC's answer to Jerry Jones.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 02:16 PM
The AFC's answer to Jerry Jones.

Some of the owners are such ego heads

miked1958
03-17-2013, 02:26 PM
I don't want to lose Cruz, at all.. but better this year then next yearTRUE. if we are to lose him you want to get something for him and not lose him like we did Canty and KP this offseason

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 02:52 PM
TRUE. if we are to lose him you want to get something for him and not lose him like we did Canty and KP this offseason

It's a game of chicken..

G-Men Surg.
03-17-2013, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the update RF. Its a long way 'till April 19 for someone to take a shot at Cruz. Will see what happens.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the update RF. Its a long way 'till April 19 for someone to take a shot at Cruz. Will see what happens.

I think if no offer sheets are presented this week, it's not going to happen and I don't think it's going to happen anyway. With Condon onboard now we should at least be able to expect reasonable negotiations to take place with the Giants.

G-Men Surg.
03-17-2013, 03:07 PM
I think if no offers sheets are presented this week, it's not going to happen and I don't think it's going to happen anyway. With Condon onboard now we should at least be able to expect reasonable negotiations to take place with the Giants.
Its starting to look that way .

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 03:13 PM
Its starting to look that way .

Even with the tender being offered, there is nothing to prevent Condon from negotiating a long term deal with Reese.

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 03:14 PM
if Cruz signs long term here.. this off season is a success!!

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 03:16 PM
if Cruz signs long term here.. this off season is a success!!

I don't think we should see just that as success. Reese has done a good job with FA and his infamous short term veteran deals. But it he gets Cruz done long term many of the puzzle pieces are in place.

G-Men Surg.
03-17-2013, 03:21 PM
Even with the tender being offered, there is nothing to prevent Condon from negotiating a long term deal with Reese.

I hope Condon salsa's all the way to a new deal as soon as possible.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 03:23 PM
I hope Condon salsa's all the way to a new deal as soon as possible.

+1

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 03:23 PM
I hope Condon salsa's all the way to a new deal as soon as possible.

+2

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 03:29 PM
Owner Jim Irsay recently tweeted that the Colts are pursuing a wide receiver, and the Indianapolis Star speculates it may be Doug Baldwin.

The Indy Star is just connecting dots, but they do connect. Baldwin was pushed down Seattle's depth chart following Percy Harvin's acquisition, and Baldwin played with Colts quarterback Andrew Luck and under new OC Pep Hamilton at Stanford. We suspect Seattle could net a fifth- or sixth-round pick for Baldwin.
Related: Colts (http://boards.giants.com/teams/clubhouse/nfl/ind/colts)

Source: Indianapolis Star (http://www.indystar.com/article/20130317/SPORTS03/303170037/Owner-Jim-Irsay-says-Colts-pursuing-wide-receiver-which-one-)

BigBlueAllDay
03-17-2013, 03:32 PM
From the OP article: "How the Colts would pull this off I have no idea. They already have no second-round pick this April. Do they really want (t)o also surrender their first-rounder?"

No way. Giants fans can rest easy on this one.

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 03:33 PM
Source: Indianapolis Star (http://www.indystar.com/article/20130317/SPORTS03/303170037/Owner-Jim-Irsay-says-Colts-pursuing-wide-receiver-which-one-)

Thanks Carter.

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 03:35 PM
Thanks Carter.

It was Baldwin all along.. hehe

egyptian420
03-17-2013, 03:39 PM
This guy is just an attention #####. I wouldn't put any value in this.

ALLnygIN
03-17-2013, 03:45 PM
Reese wont part ways with cruz unless it's really going to help out the team more than having him. At which case if any team is willing to give up more to us than what they'll get as much as I love cruz I'm all for it, but it'll have to be significant!

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 03:47 PM
It was Baldwin all along.. hehe

I know it was you Baldwin. You broke my heart. ;)

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 03:48 PM
I know it was you Baldwin. You broke my heart. ;)

dang Baldwin brothers..

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 03:53 PM
dang Baldwin brothers..

Can't take them anywhere.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 03:57 PM
Can't take them anywhere.

You can take them twice, second time to apologize

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 04:06 PM
You can take them twice, second time to apologize

Good one! :D

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 04:17 PM
Source: Indianapolis Star (http://www.indystar.com/article/20130317/SPORTS03/303170037/Owner-Jim-Irsay-says-Colts-pursuing-wide-receiver-which-one-)

And another one bites the dust :)

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 04:17 PM
Good one! :D

:cool:

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 04:29 PM
"Process of Elimination". The Victor Cruz Free Agency story.

Hooligans
03-17-2013, 04:34 PM
Irsay's tweet could be true. The Giants CANNOT afford both Cruz and Nicks, so trade one now makes sense. If we don't trade him now, we still lose him in 2014 anyway......get something for him while you can!

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 04:35 PM
Irsay's tweet could be true. The Giants CANNOT afford both Cruz and Nicks, so trade one now makes sense. If we don't trade him now, we still lose him in 2014 anyway......get something for him while you can!

I hate this..!! but it's true

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 04:39 PM
Irsay's tweet could be true. The Giants CANNOT afford both Cruz and Nicks, so trade one now makes sense. If we don't trade him now, we still lose him in 2014 anyway......get something for him while you can!

They can afford them both. Nicks' turn will come. The CAP squeeze eases up beyond 2013.

Drez
03-17-2013, 04:56 PM
I don't want to lose Cruz, at all.. but better this year then next yearYup. If we're going to lose him, I would much rather it be now than later.

Drez
03-17-2013, 04:57 PM
TRUE. if we are to lose him you want to get something for him and not lose him like we did Canty and KP this offseasonWe cut Canty; he didn't leave in FA.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 05:03 PM
Yup. If we're going to lose him, I would much rather it be now than later.

You and I know we're not losing either :rolleyes:

Cloud57
03-17-2013, 05:03 PM
Irsay's tweet could be true. The Giants CANNOT afford both Cruz and Nicks, so trade one now makes sense. If we don't trade him now, we still lose him in 2014 anyway......get something for him while you can!in 2013 we can evaluate both Nicks and Cruz then we can decide who to let go in 2014

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 05:06 PM
in 2013 we can evaluate both Nicks and Cruz then we can decide who to let go in 2014

Cruz has an offer on the table from the Giants. Condon is going to work with Reese and develop a contract that is mutually satisfying.

Drez
03-17-2013, 05:07 PM
You and I know we're not losing either :rolleyes:I sure hope not.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 05:08 PM
I sure hope not.

Come on now, a little more umph if you please :p

Drez
03-17-2013, 05:09 PM
Come on now, a little more umph if you please :pI sure hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better? :beermug:

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 05:12 PM
I sure hope not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better? :beermug:


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Drez
03-17-2013, 05:18 PM
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Bones911
03-17-2013, 05:28 PM
I'm monitoring Irsays tweets: here is the latest:

We r still in fight for WR n others...we've landed everyone we've targeted...my gut feeling--- we're not through..it's hour to hour-EXCITING

Jim Irsay ‏@JimIrsay
We're still n the hunt for WR n others..it's never DONE until it's DONE! We ride the roller coaster,just like u guys! Nerve racking stuff!
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9m Jim Irsay ‏@JimIrsay
Colt Fans,I just give u an inside view,blow by blow...it's not teasing or anything like that..ups n downs,getting close then stalling out..


I have no clue what to make of it

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 05:32 PM
I'm monitoring Irsays tweets: here is the latest:

We r still in fight for WR n others...we've landed everyone we've targeted...my gut feeling--- we're not through..it's hour to hour-EXCITING

Jim Irsay ‏@JimIrsay
We're still n the hunt for WR n others..it's never DONE until it's DONE! We ride the roller coaster,just like u guys! Nerve racking stuff!
Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More

9m Jim Irsay ‏@JimIrsay
Colt Fans,I just give u an inside view,blow by blow...it's not teasing or anything like that..ups n downs,getting close then stalling out..


I have no clue what to make of it

He's an *******

cornerback30
03-17-2013, 05:34 PM
in 2013 we can evaluate both Nicks and Cruz then we can decide who to let go in 2014I think you're right,I don't see the Giants being able to afford both nicks and Cruz either,not to mention Reese wants to keep JPP here for the long haul.Still wanting to get Boothe signed after signing Beatty to his new deal,they all can't get top money and there will be other clubs ponying up more money than we can because of the cap issues we now and for the next yr or 2 to come.

Cloud57
03-17-2013, 05:43 PM
He's an *******lol Agreed. Can't stand that fool.

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 05:45 PM
He's an *******

https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3152819791/d185a177b4468be17229f5c98b033751_normal.jpeg Jim IrsayVerified account ‏@JimIrsay (https://twitter.com/JimIrsay)
In Arizona,but the phone lines burning up...we want to win so damn bad our toes ache and our brains are gurgling!!!!!!!


https://twitter.com/JimIrsay/status/313104532487954432

Cloud57
03-17-2013, 05:50 PM
This is funny don't think it's true though.

http://forums.colts.com/index.php?/topic/16617-cruz-supposedly-spotted-at-eagle-creek-airport-per-jmv/

miked1958
03-17-2013, 05:50 PM
We cut Canty; he didn't leave in FA.yea you are right he went with the 3 all at once bradshaw, Boley and him. but point is taken... if you going to lose Cruz anyway then you may as well get that # 1 pick or trade him for some value.. Of course there is no way of knowing weather we can sign him LT maybe till its to late.... the FO has to make a choice to hold on to him if he gets no offers and make him play under the tender in hopes they can come to some agreement during the 2013 season... Its a crap shoot as there is no guarantee that they will reach an agreement. that is all Colts owner was tweeting. Do the Giants want to roll the dice in hopes of keeping both cruz and Nicks which will also be a UFA next season or trade one of them now for some future value

Redeyejedi
03-17-2013, 06:01 PM
If they arent going to pay him then trade him, Pointless to keep him and let him leave as a FA.

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 06:02 PM
If they arent going to pay him then trade him, Pointless to keep him and let him leave as a FA.

if your not going to sign him.. trade him

gmen2117
03-17-2013, 06:19 PM
Does anyone else find Jim Irsay very annoying? Even before this Cruz thing

sethm
03-17-2013, 07:03 PM
Just tweeted

Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday
John Mara at league meetings tells me nothing has changed with Victor Cruz. No offers from other teams ... yet.

also just added:

Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday
Mara reiterates what he told @JennyVrentas this week, sees Cruz signing w new agent Tom Condon as a good sign. Condon reps Eli, Kiwi, etc.

Rudyy
03-17-2013, 07:05 PM
Just tweeted

Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday
John Mara at league meetings tells me nothing has changed with Victor Cruz. No offers from other teams ... yet.Good

darrin99
03-17-2013, 07:07 PM
Does anyone else find Jim Irsay very annoying? Even before this Cruz thing

NFL Radio said it best: "Someone needs to take his Twitter account away."

BigBlueAllDay
03-17-2013, 07:22 PM
There may very well be no team out there that's willing to deal their first round pick. This anxiety over Cruz's restricted free agency is entertaining though.

Drez
03-17-2013, 07:24 PM
If they arent going to pay him then trade him, Pointless to keep him and let him leave as a FA.Sign and trades just don't work in the NFL. Wonder what the dead money cap hit would be on a Cruz S&T, lol.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 07:45 PM
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3152819791/d185a177b4468be17229f5c98b033751_normal.jpeg Jim IrsayVerified account ‏@JimIrsay (https://twitter.com/JimIrsay)
In Arizona,but the phone lines burning up...we want to win so damn bad our toes ache and our brains are gurgling!!!!!!!


https://twitter.com/JimIrsay/status/313104532487954432

Should have kept Peyton lol

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 07:46 PM
if your not going to sign him.. trade him

Has the team indicated they don't want Cruz?

egyptian420
03-17-2013, 07:49 PM
Does anyone else find Jim Irsay very annoying? Even before this Cruz thingYes, during the Peyton dilemma last off-season the whole world got a taste of how much of a clown this guy is. He's trying so hard to be Jerry Jones it's pathetic.

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 07:52 PM
Does anyone else find Jim Irsay very annoying? Even before this Cruz thing

Only those who know him

bELIeve_in_Giants
03-17-2013, 08:05 PM
Yes, during the Peyton dilemma last off-season the whole world got a taste of how much of a clown this guy is. He's trying so hard to be Jerry Jones it's pathetic.

He had the nerve to scold Peyton for not keeping it in the family while sending out constant cryptic twitter updates the whole time.

P_Simms_#11
03-17-2013, 08:08 PM
Should have kept Peyton lol

:D

egyptian420
03-17-2013, 08:13 PM
He had the nerve to scold Peyton for not keeping it in the family while sending out constant cryptic twitter updates the whole time.Yup...even Jerry Jones wouldn't do that

TheShouldersOf
03-17-2013, 08:17 PM
They are waiting for the asking price from Cruz and his new agent,, and whilst they have said no one has made an offer yet, i believe they believe someone will

RoanokeFan
03-17-2013, 08:19 PM
They are waiting for the asking price from Cruz and his new agent,, and whilst they have said no one has made an offer yet, i believe they believe someone will

Someone has made an offer, the Giants.

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 08:26 PM
Has the team indicated they don't want Cruz?

no, but if Cruz makes it through this up coming season without a contract.. NY won't get squat for him..

bELIeve_in_Giants
03-17-2013, 08:43 PM
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday
Irsay on WR Colts are targeting: "It's NOT Cruz."

Carter.525
03-17-2013, 08:44 PM
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday
Irsay on WR Colts are targeting: "It's NOT Cruz."

it's Baldwin from Seattle

Sean Montemayor
03-17-2013, 08:49 PM
7 million a year for Salsa lessons!!! Hell yeah! Lol