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tdawg1413
03-18-2013, 02:47 PM
Here is an attempt after our recent signings:

1) DJ Fluker - RT Alabama - I feel like this one is close to etched in stone to be honest. Fluker is a day 1 starter and a Phil Loadholt clone. Will beast in the run game and is better than most think in the passing game. I feel he is a RT and not a guard, but if he fails as a tackle, we can push him inside.

2) Sio Moore - OLB Uconn - I love more as a potential strong side LB for the Giants. He can rush the passer and cover fairly well. He is another I feel can be an instant starter.

3) Sam Montgomery - DE LSU - I see a decent slide for Montgomery come draft day, but he was a first round talent at the beginning of the year. BPA here for us.

4) Terry Hawthorne - CB - Illinois - Good size and speed combo here. Hawthorne is an underrated CB in a very good CB class but should be available here. He can play specials for a year and be ready to be plugged in in 2014.

5) Josh Boyd - DT - Mississippi St. - Another DT for our rotation with the potential to start down the line. Boyd is a stout run stuffer with some pass rush moves. Offers good value here.

6) Johnathan Stewart - ILB Texas A&M - Very good size and a good athlete to boot. Would be a nice special teams player with the ability to play MLB down the road.

7). Lamar Mady - G - Youngstown State - This is a guy I hear the Giants love. Sent our O-line coach to his pro day where he looked very good. 35 BP reps and good numbers in the drills as well. Needs some time to develop though.

Priority FA's

Ryan Griffin - TE UConn
Jeff Tuel - QB - Washington State
T.J. Moe - WR Missouri
George Winn - RB Cincinnati
Cody Davis - S Texas Tech
Marcus Cromartie - CB Wisconsin
Mike Catapano - DE Princeton
Nathan Williams - LB Ohio State

Cloud57
03-18-2013, 02:51 PM
Do you think if we draft Fluker he will start over Diehl and Brewer?

Carter.525
03-18-2013, 02:52 PM
Do you think if we draft Fluker he will start over Diehl and Brewer?

Planet Fluker >>> Diehl & Brewer

tdawg1413
03-18-2013, 02:54 PM
Do you think if we draft Fluker he will start over Diehl and Brewer?

Yes, without a doubt. Diehl has been brought back as insurance. I cannot see him starting without a few injuries. I see Fluker and Brewer battling for the LG spot.

Kruunch
03-18-2013, 03:10 PM
Poor Sam ... that's a helluva slide he took!

That and since he's more of a 3-4 OLB, you have us drafting (in essence) three LBers. And an OT who is being moved to OG before he's even drafted.

Not the kind of moves I see the Giants making (although the personnel are all good choices).

Carter.525
03-18-2013, 03:26 PM
Poor Sam ... that's a helluva slide he took!

That and since he's more of a 3-4 OLB, you have us drafting (in essence) three LBers. And an OT who is being moved to OG before he's even drafted.

Not the kind of moves I see the Giants making (although the personnel are all good choices).

not a fan of this.. reminds me of Sintim

tdawg1413
03-18-2013, 04:03 PM
Poor Sam ... that's a helluva slide he took!

That and since he's more of a 3-4 OLB, you have us drafting (in essence) three LBers. And an OT who is being moved to OG before he's even drafted.

Not the kind of moves I see the Giants making (although the personnel are all good choices).

Disagree on him being a 3-4 OLB. He is absolutely and end in a 4-3 scheme. And like I said Fluker is a tackle in my book, and a darn good one at that.

tdawg1413
03-18-2013, 04:04 PM
not a fan of this.. reminds me of Sintim

Not Sintim at all. Sintim was a 3-4 OLB a lot of the time in college. Montgomery has not played 3-4 OLB at all at LSU. Was strictly a 4-3 end and a three down player at that.

ELI_HOF_NYG
03-18-2013, 05:05 PM
no way on sam montgomery after this,,we don't need this on our team.

http://network.yardbarker.com/college_football/article_external/les_miles_tells_nfl_scouts_these_players_care_abou t_nothing_but_themselves/12531337

Kruunch
03-19-2013, 08:07 AM
Disagree on him being a 3-4 OLB. He is absolutely and end in a 4-3 scheme. And like I said Fluker is a tackle in my book, and a darn good one at that.

Sorry you're right ... I was thinking of Damontre Moore (been talking / watching him a lot lately).

Montgomery (and most LSU dline) doesn't really give me a lot of excitement. Although I don't think Montgomery falls that far, I'm not sure I'd want him anyways (the poster above making a good point, although I think that may have just been a coaching stunt).

I was never that high on him since he wasn't an elite edge rusher but played the RDE spot.

I think that's the only real problem I have with your mock ... otherwise the other picks are solid.

tdawg1413
03-19-2013, 10:01 AM
Sorry you're right ... I was thinking of Damontre Moore (been talking / watching him a lot lately).

Montgomery (and most LSU dline) doesn't really give me a lot of excitement. Although I don't think Montgomery falls that far, I'm not sure I'd want him anyways (the poster above making a good point, although I think that may have just been a coaching stunt).

I was never that high on him since he wasn't an elite edge rusher but played the RDE spot.

I think that's the only real problem I have with your mock ... otherwise the other picks are solid.

Cool, but that's why I have him in the 3rd round. I feel the story will cause his stock to drop. But the guy was a late first early second round talent so grabbing him in the 3rd would be good value. I can see him as a solid DE vs. the run and chipping in with 6-8 sacks per year as a starter, which is fine.

Get him some pro coaching and I guarantee that he will not be taking plays off. You don't play Coastal Carolina in the NFL and it was said he only did this vs. teams that were not up to LSU's level. I am not condoning what he did at all but vs. the Alabama's and Florida's, he gave his all.

Kruunch
03-19-2013, 10:41 AM
Cool, but that's why I have him in the 3rd round. I feel the story will cause his stock to drop. But the guy was a late first early second round talent so grabbing him in the 3rd would be good value. I can see him as a solid DE vs. the run and chipping in with 6-8 sacks per year as a starter, which is fine.

Get him some pro coaching and I guarantee that he will not be taking plays off. You don't play Coastal Carolina in the NFL and it was said he only did this vs. teams that were not up to LSU's level. I am not condoning what he did at all but vs. the Alabama's and Florida's, he gave his all.

Yeah that pretty much tells me that I don't want him. We've seen other players of that ilk and rarely does it go well for long (Haynesworth comes to mind there).

Just not a fan of Montgomery at any pick.

tdawg1413
03-19-2013, 12:32 PM
Yeah that pretty much tells me that I don't want him. We've seen other players of that ilk and rarely does it go well for long (Haynesworth comes to mind there).

Just not a fan of Montgomery at any pick.

Understood, I think if we could get him in the 3rd, the player value would be too high to pass up.

Sovereign
03-20-2013, 01:55 AM
I hate Fluker but if you replace Fluker and Montgomery I'd say it's a decent draft.

miked1958
03-20-2013, 02:02 AM
Random question. Where's Jonathan Goff? People were up in arms when he got axed during final cuts.. Looks like another good call on the giants part

miked1958
03-20-2013, 02:05 AM
Oh that's right our starting MLB tore his ACL and we didnt think he'd come back from it. He signed with Washington and they moved him to ILB and he promptly torn that same ACL and missed his second season in a row..... Prob out of football unless he tries to comeback a third time like TT is doing

Toadofsteel
03-21-2013, 11:11 AM
It's kind of sad... Sam Montgomery is rated in the neighborhood of Joe Kruger and Corey Lemonier now...