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NYG4lifeNYK
03-18-2013, 08:38 PM
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1417559662/RalphPic_normal.jpg Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN) I'm not sure if the Giants feel the same way, but I wouldn't rule it out while they're handing out one-year, minimum-salary deals. #NYG (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NYG&src=hash)



11m (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN/status/313793392545001472) https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1417559662/RalphPic_normal.jpg Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN)
Interesting. Last month WR Ramses Barden said "it's probably best" to move on from the Giants. Now I hear they're still an option for him.


As it says, Giants may or may not feel the same way. He knows the offense and is a veteran.. who knows. Would be the #5 receiver.

RoanokeFan
03-18-2013, 08:59 PM
I'd rather a late round draft pick than Barden.

darrin99
03-18-2013, 09:00 PM
I met Barden and he is a super nice guy. I kinda wish he comes back for the bare minimum.

gmen0820
03-18-2013, 09:04 PM
Barden's cap figure was never his problem, it's his play. Idc, it's up to the Giants, but I think we should get a raw kid late if we want a new developmental WR.

darrin99
03-18-2013, 09:10 PM
I'd take Barden over Jernigan.

RoanokeFan
03-18-2013, 09:11 PM
I'd take Barden over Jernigan.

Based on his height?

gmen0820
03-18-2013, 09:12 PM
Based on his height?Lol they're both slot receivers, anyway.

NYG4lifeNYK
03-18-2013, 09:13 PM
Based on his height?

JERNIGAN IS SMALL...... ANTHONY MIX BABY!!!


Lol but seriously, I'm not a fan of Jernigan :confused:

talbot
03-18-2013, 09:14 PM
JJ can return kicks, but the Giants also already have speedsters like Cruz and Murphy (assuming he makes the team),

Barden, on the other hand, presents freakish size and potential, but has never been able to do anything with it.

It's a tough call.

darrin99
03-18-2013, 09:20 PM
JJ can return kicks, but the Giants also already have speedsters like Cruz and Murphy (assuming he makes the team),

Barden, on the other hand, presents freakish size and potential, but has never been able to do anything with it.

It's a tough call.

Barden had a big game in his only start. Jernigan has what, 2 or 3 catches in 2 seasons?

RoanokeFan
03-18-2013, 09:21 PM
Badren worked through his rookie contract and Jernigan will to. We already know how successful Barden has been. Time to bring in a low round draft pick and see what develops

OR

Bring Hixon back

Flip Empty
03-18-2013, 09:21 PM
I'd like to think the team has moved on from Barden. Bring in the next project.

Captain Chaos
03-18-2013, 09:22 PM
If you lose Cruz that is a guy who can step in...

RoanokeFan
03-18-2013, 09:24 PM
If you lose Cruz that is a guy who can step in...

What guy?

Roosevelt
03-18-2013, 09:24 PM
I read the headline as "Barden contemplating resigning"

RoanokeFan
03-18-2013, 09:26 PM
I read the headline as "Barden contemplating resigning"

That would be appropriate

NYG4lifeNYK
03-18-2013, 09:29 PM
Badren worked through his rookie contract and Jernigan will to. We already know how successful Barden has been. Time to bring in a low round draft pick and see what develops

OR

Bring Hixon back

Obviously Hixon is priority but I just don't think they see him on the team next season. He may finally want to cash in and don't blame him with his injury history. Dom is a GREAT guy.... LOVE that guy. Would suck not to have him but I hope he gets a lot of money from someone and can stay healthy.

RoanokeFan
03-18-2013, 09:32 PM
Obviously Hixon is priority but I just don't think they see him on the team next season. He may finally want to cash in and don't blame him with his injury history. Dom is a GREAT guy.... LOVE that guy. Would suck not to have him but I hope he gets a lot of money from someone and can stay healthy.

He's still available which would put him ahead of Barden should the Giants feel we need someone else

NYGabriel
03-18-2013, 09:36 PM
4 years without snagging even one TD. This bum should be playing in the arena league.

Carter.525
03-18-2013, 09:38 PM
the Barden experiment is over, I'd rather have Jernigan.. atleast he a special teamer.

CowboysSuck
03-18-2013, 09:44 PM
I like Barden here as depth. We know he can step-up and catch some balls on offense if need be.

The problem is he isnt much of a Special Teamer..

uther99
03-18-2013, 09:46 PM
Barden experiment is over. No need to waste a roster spot on him. And yes, I recall the Carolina game.

GameTime
03-18-2013, 10:16 PM
why even bother. If I were him I would want to go to another team. If another team doesnt want him then there you go......bye...

giantsfan420
03-18-2013, 10:28 PM
I like Barden here as depth. We know he can step-up and catch some balls on offense if need be.

The problem is he isnt much of a Special Teamer..yup. he made some very nice grabs tho outside of the carolina game too. wouldnt surprise me if they want barden over hixon. would save some money for virtually the same talent at wr.

ELI_HOF_NYG
03-18-2013, 10:29 PM
I'd rather a late round draft pick than Barden.

boom.

ELI_HOF_NYG
03-18-2013, 10:30 PM
yup. he made some very nice grabs tho outside of the carolina game too. wouldnt surprise me if they want barden over hixon. would save some money for virtually the same talent at wr.

he did that against a rookie thrown into a starting role. barden still sucks.

giantsfan420
03-18-2013, 10:32 PM
he did that against a rookie thrown into a starting role. barden still sucks.lol i said outside of that game, meaning diff games. had some nice grabs vs philly, dallas, etc. he did much more last yr than years prior. id be fine with him as depth. hes cheap, knows the playbook, and proved he can be called on in a bind.

ELI_HOF_NYG
03-18-2013, 10:33 PM
lol i said outside of that game, meaning diff games. had some nice grabs vs philly, dallas, etc. he did much more last yr than years prior. id be fine with him as depth. hes cheap, knows the playbook, and proved he can be called on in a bind.

he stinks out loud man,,,how tall is he? and couldnt even get in during trips to the red zone? he has been here long enough. murphy will make you forget him quick.

Rudyy
03-18-2013, 10:34 PM
Barden is pretty much useless here.

gmen0820
03-18-2013, 10:42 PM
red zone?Ahem, Green Zone.

Get it rye baybay

mercurio
03-18-2013, 10:50 PM
Except for the one offensive pass interference call, he was pretty decent when used. At vet min IMO he is worth resigning.

talbot
03-18-2013, 11:33 PM
Except for the one offensive pass interference call, he was pretty decent when used. At vet min IMO he is worth resigning.

That was actually one of Barden's finer moments. The way that ball was thrown, and how Nnamdi was leading Ramses like the WR, it had interception written all over it.

jomo
03-18-2013, 11:36 PM
I was hoping the thread title lead to " Ramses Barden contemplating retirement.

G-Men Surg.
03-18-2013, 11:36 PM
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1417559662/RalphPic_normal.jpg Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN) I'm not sure if the Giants feel the same way, but I wouldn't rule it out while they're handing out one-year, minimum-salary deals. #NYG (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NYG&src=hash)



11m (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN/status/313793392545001472) https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1417559662/RalphPic_normal.jpg Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN)
Interesting. Last month WR Ramses Barden said "it's probably best" to move on from the Giants. Now I hear they're still an option for him.


As it says, Giants may or may not feel the same way. He knows the offense and is a veteran.. who knows. Would be the #5 receiver.
I guess the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

jomo
03-18-2013, 11:36 PM
Except for the one offensive pass interference call, he was pretty decent when used. At vet min IMO he is worth resigning.A # 5 or 6 WR needs to be able to contribute on ST.

G-Men Surg.
03-18-2013, 11:37 PM
I was hoping the thread title lead to " Ramses Barden contemplating retirement.
lol I had that in mind when I was reading the title too.

G-Men Surg.
03-18-2013, 11:39 PM
I'd rather a late round draft pick than Barden.
No more Barden experiment for you RF ?

jomo
03-18-2013, 11:40 PM
lol I had that in mind when I was reading the title too.No harm meant to the guy but we are better off with an undrafted rookie who can contribute on ST and may have some upside..............which,..............for Barden is non-existent. But he is tall. lol

G-Men Surg.
03-19-2013, 12:12 AM
No harm meant to the guy but we are better off with an undrafted rookie who can contribute on ST and may have some upside..............which,..............for Barden is non-existent. But he is tall. lol
Sadly Ramses never lived up to expectations.

JJC7301
03-19-2013, 12:15 AM
Absolutely I would take him back for 1 year at the vet min. Why not? He knows the Giants schemes and routes and actually put up 2 nice games last year, plus his height.

Cloud57
03-19-2013, 12:20 AM
Whether Barden is here or not does not make any difference.

EJ Blue
03-19-2013, 12:24 AM
Ramses turned out to be nothing like I expected him to be. In my mind, we'd have a redzone and occasional deep threat guy to complement Nicks, and he did none of that. He has no reason to be a Giant anymore, and his presence would only take reps away from talented hopefuls like Randle. If he re-signs at a low rate that would be pretty decent for our depth. Regardless, good luck to him, wherever he ends up.

rebelfan1966
03-19-2013, 10:02 AM
I keep waiting for Barden to emerge as the premeir WR we all thought he would be.... so far, he's been average.

ryan12
03-19-2013, 10:08 AM
no thanks on barden but if i had to make a choice bewtween him or jernigan barden all day JJ is horrible

StrahanSoup92
03-19-2013, 10:08 AM
I'd rather a late round draft pick than Barden.

Ditto.

GameTime
03-19-2013, 10:27 AM
I keep waiting for Barden to emerge as the premeir WR we all thought he would be.... so far, he's been average.
average??...he hasnt even been that....
Let him go.....

titwio
03-19-2013, 10:39 AM
For all the stuff we give Barden, he's still an intriguing prospect (Just not for the Giants). Tall possession receiver who showed he can produce when he was given the chance to step up.

If I'm the Jets I'd of took a flyer on the guy a long time ago. There's a lot of teams who need WR's....especially some of the teams with young QB's who could benefit from having a 6'6 guy on their corps. Surprised no one has shown any interest yet.

Kruunch
03-19-2013, 10:52 AM
I'd rather a late round draft pick than Barden.

I'm in this camp.

TCHOF
03-19-2013, 10:53 AM
I'm in this camp.

The guy stepped up when we needed him last year. No guarantee that a late round pick could do that next year.

GeoGoGo
03-19-2013, 10:55 AM
Barden had a big game in his only start. Jernigan has what, 2 or 3 catches in 2 seasons?

Not a fan of Jernigan at all. Has shown nothing. Barden had a great game when he got the chance to start. Vet minimum? No brainer.

Roosevelt
03-19-2013, 10:57 AM
What happened to the Barden we saw in Carolina last year?

GeoGoGo
03-19-2013, 10:57 AM
the Barden experiment is over, I'd rather have Jernigan.. atleast he a special teamer.

If you mean short bus special, I agree.

tonyt830
03-19-2013, 10:59 AM
I'd rather a late round draft pick than Barden.I agree, he had his chance--time to move on. The Giants now have 2 7th rd picks. If they see a developmental WR in rd 6 or 7, I'm all for that. We added Murphy, and lets see what Jernigan can do.

Edit: And like a couple other posters mentioned, Barden was not a big contributor on ST, if you are not a starting WR, you should be able to help on ST at the very least.

shane4177
03-19-2013, 11:04 AM
Unless Barden can add weight and transition to TE, NO! Guy has no break away speed whatsoever.......as stated he is good against young inexperienced CBs, that all!

RoanokeFan
03-19-2013, 11:05 AM
yup. he made some very nice grabs tho outside of the carolina game too. wouldnt surprise me if they want barden over hixon. would save some money for virtually the same talent at wr. That record Wilson owns for most all purpose yards in a single game was Hixon's. Barden isn't close.

RoanokeFan
03-19-2013, 11:09 AM
lol i said outside of that game, meaning diff games. had some nice grabs vs philly, dallas, etc. he did much more last yr than years prior. id be fine with him as depth. hes cheap, knows the playbook, and proved he can be called on in a bind.


They would have to be in a bind or on a bender to re-sign him.

EliDaMANning
03-19-2013, 11:12 AM
Outside of that PI vs the Eagles he has played well when used. It's not his fault the coaching staff continued to use a hobbled Nicks over him and Randle. He should have been given more opportunities after the Carolina and Eagles games.

Kruunch
03-19-2013, 11:14 AM
The guy stepped up when we needed him last year. No guarantee that a late round pick could do that next year.

Ok let's dissect that a bit. He's only ever shown up in two games in four years.

Last year in the Panthers game, who had less defense then most high school teams that day.

And the first Eagles game .... until he single-handedly cost us the game.

Not exactly a glowing resume.

I'd rather take my chances with a Denard Robinson or Ryan Swope personally.

GameTime
03-19-2013, 11:32 AM
What happened to the Barden we saw in Carolina last year?
thats exception. the Barden we have seen (or not seen actually) most of the time is the what Barden really is....

RoanokeFan
03-19-2013, 11:39 AM
Outside of that PI vs the Eagles he has played well when used. It's not his fault the coaching staff continued to use a hobbled Nicks over him and Randle. He should have been given more opportunities after the Carolina and Eagles games. what about the first three and a half years?

Rich4114
03-19-2013, 12:08 PM
I realize we have had some WR's with a ton of success lately... but when Barden was in there did he disappoint? It seemed like when we put him on the field he was actually pretty good. He had the offensive PI in the Philly game which probably lingers in peoples minds a lot. I would like to see him stay as #4 WR and insurance in case one of our top 3 got hurt. The fact that he can play slot is actually pretty valuable.

GameTime
03-19-2013, 12:09 PM
I realize we have had some WR's with a ton of success lately... but when Barden was in there did he disappoint? It seemed like when we put him on the field he was actually pretty good. He had the offensive PI in the Philly game which probably lingers in peoples minds a lot. I would like to see him stay as #4 WR and insurance in case one of our top 3 got hurt. The fact that he can play slot is actually pretty valuable.
why wasnt he in there more then?? My guess is because he was dissappointing on the practie field and in the film room....