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giantsWU36
10-19-2006, 11:24 PM
Being he has been on Rupert Murdock's FOX NEWS channel doing "Fox and Friends" for a year or 2 now, id assume so....Anyone got a clue if he has ever voiced his political opinions?

Pisarcik2
10-19-2006, 11:26 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(giantsWU36 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;29 PM) 1411405</div><div class='quotemain'>
Being he has been on Rupert Murdock&#39;s FOX NEWS channel doing &quot;Fox and Friends&quot; for a year or 2 now, id assume so....Anyone got a clue if he has ever voiced his political opinions?
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He&#39;s intelligent, has class, doesn&#39;t whine, has a backbone, went to UVA and has money - he must be a Republican.

-The Football Giants-
10-19-2006, 11:27 PM
yes i heard homer simpson was a republican. And peter griffin.

and joe buck

BlueWave
10-19-2006, 11:27 PM
Yeah he&#39;s a devil.

ShockeyOwnsYou
10-19-2006, 11:27 PM
Youre an idiot.

StrahanSoup92
10-19-2006, 11:27 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(&#045;The Football Giants&#045; &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;32 PM) 1411410</div><div class='quotemain'>
yes i heard homer simpson was a republican. And peter griffin.

and joe buck
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jet_black
10-19-2006, 11:28 PM
So is Feely

giantsWU36
10-19-2006, 11:29 PM
I mean I could be wrong just im sure its a stipulation to be part of Mr Murdocks TV empire (FOX NEWS CHANNEL especially) you need to be of the G.W voting section....regardless of what Tiki is he is my favorite Giant and is a great person......

Gman329
10-19-2006, 11:29 PM
Yes, I believe he is a Republican. In addition to the FOX News hint, I once read that he said the first woman President will be Condi Rice. You gotta be drinking the Kool-Aide to believe that&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;

I Live For This
10-19-2006, 11:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gman329 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;34 PM) 1411421</div><div class='quotemain'>
Yes, I believe he is a Republican. In addition to the FOX News hint, I once read that he said the first woman President will be Condi Rice. You gotta be drinking the Kool-Aide to believe that&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;
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HAHAHA, A LOT OF KOOL AID

joemorrisforprez
10-19-2006, 11:30 PM
What is this, Current Events?

robdeegs310
10-19-2006, 11:31 PM
I just gained even more respect for tiki.

jet_black
10-19-2006, 11:31 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(joemorrisforprez &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;35 PM) 1411432</div><div class='quotemain'>
What is this, Current Events?
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Nah, they&#39;ve been cranky conservatives for a long time.

Delicreep
10-19-2006, 11:32 PM
I have watched him on Fox and Friends often. Guy is very good already and gets the benifit of being compared to Brian Kilmead.

You can attempt to suss out his political leanings from that show, or his book, or the charities he gives time to, but I would suspect that you woud end up with a headache and a lot of conficting answers.

KyleG490
10-19-2006, 11:33 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(robdeegs310 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;36 PM) 1411431</div><div class='quotemain'>
I just gained even more respect for tiki.
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/forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif same here

Gman329
10-19-2006, 11:39 PM
A millionaire Republican. What a shock&#33;

Harooni
10-19-2006, 11:45 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(&#045;The Football Giants&#045; &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;32 PM) 1411410</div><div class='quotemain'>
yes i heard homer simpson was a republican. And peter griffin.

and joe buck
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Giants
10-19-2006, 11:54 PM
I certainly hope so.

Eros1127
10-19-2006, 11:58 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gman329 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 04&#58;44 PM) 1411454</div><div class='quotemain'>
A millionaire Republican. What a shock&#33;
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haha true, if tiki is i think i can find it in my heart to forgive him...no ones perfect

Lubeck
10-19-2006, 11:58 PM
Who cares, he is a Giant for life, and that is all that should matter.

All this talk about politics is weird, it is almost like we are going to be voting on something soon /forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif

gji074
10-20-2006, 12:03 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lubeck &#064; Oct 19 2006, 06&#58;03 PM) 1411499</div><div class='quotemain'>
Who cares, he is a Giant for life, and that is all that should matter.

All this talk about politics is weird, it is almost like we are going to be voting on something soon /forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif
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We have a really important vote coming up . . .








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taylormadeblue56
10-20-2006, 12:05 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;31 PM) 1411416</div><div class='quotemain'>
He&#39;s intelligent, has class, doesn&#39;t whine, has a backbone, went to UVA and has money - he must be a Republican.
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MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 12:12 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(giantsWU36 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;34 PM) 1411426</div><div class='quotemain'>
I mean I could be wrong just im sure its a stipulation to be part of Mr Murdocks TV empire (FOX NEWS CHANNEL especially) you need to be of the G.W voting section....regardless of what Tiki is he is my favorite Giant and is a great person......
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like alan combs and matt groening?

ParanoidAndroid
10-20-2006, 08:37 AM
I don&#39;t care what people&#39;s political views are. I can respect them as long as they are intelligent. Tiki is a smart guy. If he is a Repug, well atleast he doesn&#39;t preach to the choir and whine and have an inferioity complex like every other Conservative in this world. Besides, there&#39;s nothing wrong with being Republican. There&#39;s only something wrong with the American values hating neo-cons.

GiantFromCali
10-20-2006, 08:45 AM
FOX IS THE WORST PLACE TO BE GETTING YOUR NEWS, HELL ID RATHER GET MY NEWS FROM MR. STEWARTS DAILY SHOW AND FROM THE COLBERT REPORE.

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 01:54 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ParanoidAndroid &#064; Oct 20 2006, 01&#58;42 AM) 1412168</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don&#39;t care what people&#39;s political views are. I can respect them as long as they are intelligent. Tiki is a smart guy. If he is a Repug, well atleast he doesn&#39;t preach to the choir and whine and have an inferioity complex like every other Conservative in this world. Besides, there&#39;s nothing wrong with being Republican. There&#39;s only something wrong with the American values hating neo-cons.
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There&#39;s nothing wrong with anybody being anything. It&#39;s called freedom - something I wish our current administration would understand.

refsHATEtheGIANTS
10-20-2006, 01:59 PM
Holy Christ @ this thread.

hungrrrry
10-20-2006, 02:02 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(giantsWU36 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 04&#58;29 PM) 1411405</div><div class='quotemain'>
Being he has been on Rupert Murdock&#39;s FOX NEWS channel doing &quot;Fox and Friends&quot; for a year or 2 now, id assume so....Anyone got a clue if he has ever voiced his political opinions?
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i hope he isn&#39;t either...actually after the last decade plus, I hope no one is repub or dem

RUDIJOHNSON
10-20-2006, 02:03 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;31 PM) 1411416</div><div class='quotemain'>
He&#39;s intelligent, has class, doesn&#39;t whine, has a backbone, went to UVA and has money - he must be a Republican.
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Talk about going against the grain. Tiki doesn&#39;t fit the repug mold, most repugs are crooks/molestors/cowards. /forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif

Melvin_Makle
10-20-2006, 02:10 PM
Tiki is bigger than Jesus. /forums/html/emoticons/yes.gif

Fbombed
10-20-2006, 02:19 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RUDIJOHNSON &#064; Oct 20 2006, 07&#58;08 AM) 1412313</div><div class='quotemain'>
Talk about going against the grain. Tiki doesn&#39;t fit the repug mold, most repugs are crooks/molestors/cowards. /forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif
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The entire house and senate is corrupt. Corruption is not exculsive to Republicans. Power does thing to people, even those with the best of intentions. Until we can get rid of all the lobbiests and side deals that make politicians wealthy, the &quot;people&#39;s work&quot; will never get done.

Sephiroth
10-20-2006, 02:30 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>He&#39;s intelligent, has class, doesn&#39;t whine, has a backbone, went to UVA and has money - he must be a Republican. </div>


Yeah, but he doesn&#39;t touch little boys, knows how to pronouce &quot;nuclear&quot; and &quot;internet,&quot; and hasn&#39;t shot any of his friends in the face. Must be a Democrat. /forums/html/emoticons/thumbup.gif

Sam Huff 70
10-20-2006, 02:50 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(giantsWU36 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;29 PM) 1411405</div><div class='quotemain'>
Being he has been on Rupert Murdock&#39;s FOX NEWS channel doing &quot;Fox and Friends&quot; for a year or 2 now, id assume so....Anyone got a clue if he has ever voiced his political opinions?
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As a matter of fact Tiki is a staunch Republican. He even said &quot;playing for an organization like the Giants, with a history of being a Republican stroghold in the NFL, has made me even more appreciative of American Conservatism.&quot; That is why Mara liked him so much. They sat with eachother at the GOP convention in 2004.

gji074
10-20-2006, 02:52 PM
<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"> </span>[b] Who cares? He is a RUNNING BACK, with a very important game to play Monday.

ZEKE80
10-20-2006, 03:15 PM
Most People with tons of Moaney Are

Sam Huff 70
10-20-2006, 03:16 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZEKE80 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 09&#58;20 AM) 1412473</div><div class='quotemain'>
Most People with tons of Moaney Are
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Most people with tons of braincells are too, i.e. Tiki

Fbombed
10-20-2006, 03:18 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Huff 70 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 08&#58;21 AM) 1412476</div><div class='quotemain'>
Most people with tons of braincells are too, i.e. Tiki
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Then how do you explain Sean Hannity?

Sam Huff 70
10-20-2006, 04:02 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fbombed &#064; Oct 20 2006, 09&#58;23 AM) 1412479</div><div class='quotemain'>
Then how do you explain Sean Hannity?
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Again, plenty of braincells in that dome.

I&#39;ll agree he is a bit too wacked out for me.

I, like other Giants fans am a conservative, but Hannity is just too closed-minded and never considers the other side. He is very intelligent though. A theme generally more common amongst Republicans the democrats.

And it shows: Look at their last presidential candidate: John Kerry.

He made Randy Johnson look like a teen heart throb, and had the brains of a thumtack...

Anyway, I digress. I don&#39;t think we should be talking politics here anyway. Mods made that clear...

Markroman
10-20-2006, 04:05 PM
All rich people are Republicans...

I am surprised, I always thought Tiki was African-American.

Sam Huff 70
10-20-2006, 04:06 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Markroman &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;10 AM) 1412568</div><div class='quotemain'>
All rich people are Republicans...

I am surprised, I always thought Tiki was African-American.
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/forums/html/emoticons/dry.gif Ignorance anyone?

What does one have to do with the other?

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 04:07 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Delicreep &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;37 PM) 1411441</div><div class='quotemain'>
I have watched him on Fox and Friends often. Guy is very good already and gets the benifit of being compared to Brian Kilmead.

You can attempt to suss out his political leanings from that show, or his book, or the charities he gives time to, but I would suspect that you woud end up with a headache and a lot of conficting answers.
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hate to break this to you but headaches as a result of trying to think too hard are exclusive to your kind only

9697
10-20-2006, 04:09 PM
I always thought that he ran better to the left side. /forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 04:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(RUDIJOHNSON &#064; Oct 20 2006, 08&#58;08 AM) 1412313</div><div class='quotemain'>
Talk about going against the grain. Tiki doesn&#39;t fit the repug mold, most repugs are crooks/molestors/cowards. /forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif
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molesters? please back that up, thanks in advance

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ZEKE80 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 09&#58;20 AM) 1412473</div><div class='quotemain'>
Most People with tons of Moaney Are
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yeah like every other athlete and all of hollywood???

9697
10-20-2006, 04:12 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 09&#58;14 AM) 1412581</div><div class='quotemain'>
molesters? please back that up, thanks in advance
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Foley and the people that covered his tracks to name a few

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 04:13 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(9697 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;17 AM) 1412582</div><div class='quotemain'>
Foley and the people that covered his tracks to name a few
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really? when did he molest anyone? i had no idea hitting on little boys over the internet constituted as &#39;molestation&#39;

bigbluedemon
10-20-2006, 04:20 PM
I think we should get back to football and Tiki&#39;s performance on the field, not his pursuits off-field,or personal beliefs... I have read some pretty ignorant statements already and it &#39;s just gonna get worse......

mikmak
10-20-2006, 04:22 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 09&#58;18 AM) 1412583</div><div class='quotemain'>
really? when did he molest anyone? i had no idea hitting on little boys over the internet constituted as &#39;molestation&#39;
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You are honestly unaware of any Republicans who have left office from groping charges?

Markroman
10-20-2006, 04:24 PM
First of all who cares what party he belongs to...

Great football player does not equal good politician&#33;

I would laugh if he came out and said...&quot;I am a gay Communist&quot;

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MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 04:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mikmak &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;27 AM) 1412606</div><div class='quotemain'>
You are honestly unaware of any Republicans who have left office from groping charges?
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you&#39;re seriously unaware that we&#39;re talking about mark foley?

Providence
10-20-2006, 05:00 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(robdeegs310 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;36 PM) 1411431</div><div class='quotemain'>
I just gained even more respect for tiki.
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I just lost a lot of respect for him. I hate hearing stuff like this. Oh well, just another blind person.

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:01 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Huff 70 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 07&#58;55 AM) 1412416</div><div class='quotemain'>
As a matter of fact Tiki is a staunch Republican. He even said &quot;playing for an organization like the Giants, with a history of being a Republican stroghold in the NFL, has made me even more appreciative of American Conservatism.&quot; That is why Mara liked him so much. They sat with eachother at the GOP convention in 2004.
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What I&#39;d give for a vomiting emoticon right now.

Pisarcik2
10-20-2006, 05:10 PM
Tiki has class, is well educated, has money, and a bright future ahead of him - that is the definition of a Republican - The democrats have Nancy Pelosi as their leader in the House and the screamer, Howard Dean, as their party chairman - what else does one need to know, except where is Moe, Larry, &amp; Curly in the democratic hieracy?

tommy311NYG
10-20-2006, 05:13 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(giantsWU36 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;29 PM) 1411405</div><div class='quotemain'>
Being he has been on Rupert Murdock&#39;s FOX NEWS channel doing &quot;Fox and Friends&quot; for a year or 2 now, id assume so....Anyone got a clue if he has ever voiced his political opinions?
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Yep&#33; When him and Rhonde were on NFL Network together Rhonde poked fun at him because Rhonde is a demoncrat.

So is Denzel Wahsington, Bruce Willis, Mike Ditka, Clint Eastwood, The family Lawyer from the Godfather Tom who was in kikcing and screaming just to name a few.

SmuGiant2008
10-20-2006, 05:14 PM
ok yea i have no idea how this has not been deleted yet..... is there not a pinned thread at top regarding no political arguments on this board?

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:18 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CactusJack &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;24 AM) 1412699</div><div class='quotemain'>

Hopefully it will stay. It was a mistake to get rid of the Current Events forum.
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if cactusjack suddenly vanishes we&#39;ll know why /forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:19 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;15 AM) 1412683</div><div class='quotemain'>
Tiki has class, is well educated, has money, and a bright future ahead of him - that is the definition of a Republican - The democrats have Nancy Pelosi as their leader in the House and the screamer, Howard Dean, as their party chairman - what else does one need to know, except where is Moe, Larry, &amp; Curly in the democratic hieracy?
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I&#39;m more wary of a president who would sign a bill into law that destroy habeas corpus. That and republican congressmen who attempt to pick up young boys on the internet.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SmuGiant2008 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;19 AM) 1412697</div><div class='quotemain'>
ok yea i have no idea how this has not been deleted yet..... is there not a pinned thread at top regarding no political arguments on this board?
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Hopefully it will stay. It was a mistake to get rid of the Current Events forum.

tommy311NYG
10-20-2006, 05:19 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;30 AM) 1412610</div><div class='quotemain'>
you&#39;re seriously unaware that we&#39;re talking about mark foley?
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DO you kno wthere are quite a few gay and child molesting democrats too, Not to mention Bill CLinton the commander in chief desicartes the White House and brings shame to him and his name forever.

Im a republican but Im not to fond of Bush. Being a middle classed white man with a baby on the it doesnt make sense to be any other way. No coincidence 70% of white people voted republican last year. And 80% of troops did:)

Sam Huff 70
10-20-2006, 05:19 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Providence &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;05 AM) 1412669</div><div class='quotemain'>
I just lost a lot of respect for him. I hate hearing stuff like this. Oh well, just another blind person.
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I lost a lot of respect for you. Why do you hate hearing it. You do realize the Giants are and have always been a team of firm Republican values. The Mara family, as well as openly conservative EA, always looks for Republican players when they can. Why do you think we have players like, Feely, Manning, Tiki, our entire offensive line, who embody those values.

You can never have too many Republicans on a team&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif

tommy311NYG
10-20-2006, 05:20 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Huff 70 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;24 AM) 1412702</div><div class='quotemain'>
I lost a lot of respect for you. Why do you hate hearing it. You do realize the Giants are and have always been a team of firm Republican values. The Mara family, as well as openly conservative EA, always looks for Republican players when they can. Why do you think we have players like, Feely, Manning, Tiki, our entire offensive line, who embody those values.

You can never have too many Republicans on a team&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif
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HELL YES BROTHER&#33;

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:20 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(tommy311NYG &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;24 AM) 1412701</div><div class='quotemain'>
DO you kno wthere are quite a few gay and child molesting democrats too, Not to mention Bill CLinton the commander in chief desicartes the White House and brings shame to him and his name forever.

Im a republican but Im not to fond of Bush. Being a middle classed white man with a baby on the it doesnt make sense to be any other way. No coincidence 70% of white people voted republican last year. And 80% of troops did:)
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well my whole point was that foley never molested anyone but that&#39;s the image democrats are trying to portray to those who dont know better. it&#39;s just an attempt to sway the election as the news was purposely postponed until this month

SmuGiant2008
10-20-2006, 05:21 PM
seriously delete this thread.... we dont need these morons who cant comprehend football trying to comprehend politics.... Republican or Democrat... who cares... they are all just a bunch of ###### idiots... they vote with a party and what that party tells them, too many of they are too simpleminded to have their own authentic opinion that they just go along with whatever someone says.... look at the issues.... shut the ###### up... and get it off the board

Sam Huff 70
10-20-2006, 05:21 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;15 AM) 1412683</div><div class='quotemain'>
Tiki has class, is well educated, has money, and a bright future ahead of him - that is the definition of a Republican - The democrats have Nancy Pelosi as their leader in the House and the screamer, Howard Dean, as their party chairman - what else does one need to know, except where is Moe, Larry, &amp; Curly in the democratic hieracy?
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Haha I agree wholeheartedly. Except please don&#39;t lump my beloved stooges, the greatest comedy act of alltime, in with the democratic party unless it involves the three of them throwing pies at the the gathering of idiots, AKA the DNC.

Markroman
10-20-2006, 05:24 PM
I am pretty sure OJ was republican as well....

Anyhow, who cares what athletes think about politics...we all know, none of them took any classes in school.

tommy311NYG
10-20-2006, 05:24 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SmuGiant2008 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;26 AM) 1412707</div><div class='quotemain'>
seriously delete this thread.... we dont need these morons who cant comprehend football trying to comprehend politics.... Republican or Democrat... who cares... they are all just a bunch of ###### idiots... they vote with a party and what that party tells them, too many of they are too simpleminded to have their own authentic opinion that they just go along with whatever someone says.... look at the issues.... shut the ###### up... and get it off the board
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WOW youre angry, Im a republican and I HATE robots. SO stupid. Every party has faults and good parts. Your preaching to the quire here. Why so angry, You used to hang out with Foley?&#33;

Pisarcik2
10-20-2006, 05:25 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CactusJack &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;24 AM) 1412699</div><div class='quotemain'>
I&#39;m more wary of a president who would sign a bill into law that destroy habeas corpus. That and republican congressmen who attempt to pick up young boys on the internet.
Hopefully it will stay. It was a mistake to get rid of the Current Events forum.
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Let&#39;s see - Ted Kennedy kills a woman, and Senator Byrd was in the Ku Klux Klan in the 1950&#39;s, while Barney Frank also messed around with the house pages and the last democratic president played with fat interns in the Oval office - sounds like the group in &quot;One flew over the Cuckoo&#39;s nest&quot;. Your concern for the fate of terrorists is touching.

True Blue
10-20-2006, 05:26 PM
How does this post go on for so long? Who the ###### cares which lever Tiki is pulling come election time? You guys are weird, and you should find someplace else to debate whether or not Foley touched boys or whatever.

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:28 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;30 AM) 1412718</div><div class='quotemain'>
Let&#39;s see - Ted Kennedy kills a woman, and Senator Byrd was in the Ku Klux Klan in the 1950&#39;s, while Barney Frank also messed around with the house pages and the last democratic president played with fat interns in the Oval office - sounds like the group in &quot;One flew over the Cuckoo&#39;s nest&quot;. Your concern for the fate of terrorists is touching.
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I love how immediately you jump to instances of misuse of power by Democrats as if that&#39;s going to deter me from commenting further. The fact of the matter is, I distrust everyone in power - whether they be on the right of left makes no difference to me. And read the wording of the Military Commissions Act. It gives Bush the power to determine who is thrown in jail and put on trial for being a terrorist. In effect, the possibility is there for Bush to throw ordinary Americans into jail because the law does not protect ordinary Americans. This administration doesn&#39;t think about what kinds of precedents it sets. Remember, Democrats will be in power again one day. And if they start pulling gestapo tactics thanks to this new law, you only have the current administration to thank for it.

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(True Blue &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;31 AM) 1412723</div><div class='quotemain'>
How does this post go on for so long? Who the ###### cares which lever Tiki is pulling come election time? You guys are weird, and you should find someplace else to debate whether or not Foley touched boys or whatever.
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no

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:32 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;23 AM) 1412703</div><div class='quotemain'>
if cactusjack suddenly vanishes we&#39;ll know why /forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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And that would be a shame. Public discourse should be encouraged, not dissuaded.

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:39 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CactusJack &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;37 AM) 1412739</div><div class='quotemain'>
And that would be a shame. Public discourse should be encouraged, not dissuaded.
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some don&#39;t take kindly to non-football talk around here

Providence
10-20-2006, 05:41 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sam Huff 70 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;24 AM) 1412702</div><div class='quotemain'>
I lost a lot of respect for you. Why do you hate hearing it. You do realize the Giants are and have always been a team of firm Republican values. The Mara family, as well as openly conservative EA, always looks for Republican players when they can. Why do you think we have players like, Feely, Manning, Tiki, our entire offensive line, who embody those values.

You can never have too many Republicans on a team&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/rock.gif
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Yes, I am aware of the Giants organization/fan base being right leaning. It saddens me. But I am aware of the lack of support for liberal politica all over the country, so it is nothing new. It&#39;s kind of like dog poop, it&#39;s everywhere.

NYFootballGiants04
10-20-2006, 05:43 PM
Sigh...

Blacks vs. Whites
Christians vs. Muslims
Democrats vs. Republicans

The 21st century and no end in sight for mindless bigotry. Such a shame.

If you&#39;re on a side, it&#39;s the wrong one.

All conscientious, honest, intelligent people should be independent.

I do find it somewhat interesting that all of the &quot;trolls&quot; on this messageboard seem to gravitate to the Republican side. I won&#39;t read too much into that, though.

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:44 PM
there&#39;s probably a reason for it

CDN_G-FAN
10-20-2006, 05:44 PM
Yeowza.

5 pages on who sucks more, donkeys or elephants.

We need a football game to talk about BAAAAAAD.................

Providence
10-20-2006, 05:46 PM
I really do get sick to my stomach reading some of the stuff you all post. The liberal side of arguments will always win out in time. Slavery, women&#39;s rights, civil rights, labor standards, environmental standards, just to name a few. Certainly not all of those are where I would personally like them to be, but they are evolving. Anyway, the liberal side of an argument will inherently always succeed. There are just some of us out there trying to make it happen faster, and some of us out there trying to delay the inevitable.

CDN_G-FAN
10-20-2006, 05:47 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Providence &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;51 AM) 1412765</div><div class='quotemain'>
I really do get sick to my stomach reading some of the stuff you all post. The liberal side of arguments will always win out in time. Slavery, women&#39;s rights, civil rights, labor standards, environmental standards, just to name a few. Certainly not all of those are where I would personally like them to be, but they are evolving. Anyway, the liberal side of an argument will inherently always succeed. There are just some of us out there trying to make it happen faster, and some of us out there trying to delay the inevitable.
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True of social issues.

But that Keyesian economic model stinks in the real world.

So does the &#39;pure capitalizm&#39; model.

Hybrids, like most things in life, are not black or white, but seem to work the best from real life evidence.

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:49 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NYFootballGiants04 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;48 AM) 1412757</div><div class='quotemain'>


If you&#39;re on a side, it&#39;s the wrong one.

All conscientious, honest, intelligent people should be independent.


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Bingo.

Pisarcik2
10-20-2006, 05:49 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CactusJack &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;33 AM) 1412726</div><div class='quotemain'>
I love how immediately you jump to instances of misuse of power by Democrats as if that&#39;s going to deter me from commenting further. The fact of the matter is, I distrust everyone in power - whether they be on the right of left makes no difference to me. And read the wording of the Military Commissions Act. It gives Bush the power to determine who is thrown in jail and put on trial for being a terrorist. In effect, the possibility is there for Bush to throw ordinary Americans into jail because the law does not protect ordinary Americans. This administration doesn&#39;t think about what kinds of precedents it sets. Remember, Democrats will be in power again one day. And if they start pulling gestapo tactics thanks to this new law, you only have the current administration to thank for it.
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Please, comment as much as you like - and the democrats will most certainly be in power and will again lose it quickly because of their pandering to the liberals. Your little tirade about the Military Commissions Act is laughable, straight from the infantile Pelosi/Dean playbook. The use of ther term &quot;Gestapo Tactics&quot; is really funny - Please keep posting - this is free entertainment&#33;

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:49 PM
yeah it&#39;s a good thing that democrat abe lincoln ended slavery

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:51 PM
and you guys obviously aren&#39;t familiar with the term &#39;dixiecrat&#39;

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:51 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Exit 134 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;57 AM) 1412776</div><div class='quotemain'>
No way ###### head&#33;&#33;
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case in point

smokeyhip
10-20-2006, 05:52 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;31 PM) 1411416</div><div class='quotemain'>
He&#39;s intelligent, has class, doesn&#39;t whine, has a backbone, went to UVA and has money - he must be a Republican.
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No way ###### head&#33;&#33;

PJiacono
10-20-2006, 05:54 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gman329 &#064; Oct 19 2006, 05&#58;34 PM) 1411421</div><div class='quotemain'>
Yes, I believe he is a Republican. In addition to the FOX News hint, I once read that he said the first woman President will be Condi Rice. You gotta be drinking the Kool-Aide to believe that&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; LOL&#33;&#33;&#33;
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what...does fox news have to do with being...republican...they are the most fair to both sides media outlet we have.....

smokeyhip
10-20-2006, 05:54 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;54 AM) 1412770</div><div class='quotemain'>
yeah it&#39;s a good thing that democrat abe lincoln ended slavery
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Lincoln was a Republican, most southern confederates were democrats. /forums/html/emoticons/gmen.gif

Pisarcik2
10-20-2006, 05:55 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Providence &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;51 AM) 1412765</div><div class='quotemain'>
I really do get sick to my stomach reading some of the stuff you all post. The liberal side of arguments will always win out in time. Slavery, women&#39;s rights, civil rights, labor standards, environmental standards, just to name a few. Certainly not all of those are where I would personally like them to be, but they are evolving. Anyway, the liberal side of an argument will inherently always succeed. There are just some of us out there trying to make it happen faster, and some of us out there trying to delay the inevitable.
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Lincoln freed the slaves - he was a Republican. The South stayed segregated until the mid 1960&#39;s - the South was democratic. The only group that voted en masses against the Civil rights movement were the southern democrats. As usual your silly liberal argrument bears no facts and are untrue. Learn history before citing it. That is another blessing of Republicans - they are educated.

fob
10-20-2006, 05:55 PM
A political discussion on these boards rivals the conversations Brandon Jacobs must have had in those Special Education classes of his.

Lock/Ban/Delete/###### on Graves please KTHXBBAYE

Pisarcik2
10-20-2006, 05:55 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Exit 134 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;57 AM) 1412776</div><div class='quotemain'>
No way ###### head&#33;&#33;
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Is this your &quot;Howard Dean&quot; response?

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:56 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 10&#58;54 AM) 1412772</div><div class='quotemain'>
Please, comment as much as you like - and the democrats will most certainly be in power and will again lose it quickly because of their pandering to the liberals. Your little tirade about the Military Commissions Act is laughable, straight from the infantile Pelosi/Dean playbook. The use of ther term &quot;Gestapo Tactics&quot; is really funny - Please keep posting - this is free entertainment&#33;
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So instead of actually posting a rebuttal, you just fall back on ripping Democrats? Have you actually read the Military Commissions Act? Try that and get back to me. I&#39;m not your enemy here. These politicians, democrat or republican, don&#39;t care about regular people like you and I. The politicians are the ones you should be standing against.

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:56 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Exit 134 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;59 AM) 1412778</div><div class='quotemain'>
Lincoln was a Republican, most southern confederates were democrats. /forums/html/emoticons/gmen.gif
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yes, i know, i was being sarcastic because apparently it was the liberals who ended slavery according to someone who posted earlier

Melvin_Makle
10-20-2006, 05:56 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;54 AM) 1412770</div><div class='quotemain'>
yeah it&#39;s a good thing that democrat abe lincoln ended slavery
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...in order to win a war.

The old lets not fight our own war but, have our lowest class and emigants do it for us. /forums/html/emoticons/towel.gif

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 05:57 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Melvin_Makle &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;01 PM) 1412788</div><div class='quotemain'>
...in order to win a war.

The old lets not fight our own war but, have our lowest class and emigants do it for us. /forums/html/emoticons/towel.gif
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the point is liberals didn&#39;t end slavery

Melvin_Makle
10-20-2006, 05:58 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CactusJack &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;01 PM) 1412787</div><div class='quotemain'>
So instead of actually posting a rebuttal, you just fall back on ripping Democrats? Have you actually read the Military Commissions Act? Try that and get back to me. I&#39;m not your enemy here. These politicians, democrat or republican, don&#39;t care about regular people like you and I. The politicians are the ones you should be standing against.
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/forums/html/emoticons/yes.gif

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 05:59 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pisarcik2 &#064; Oct 20 2006, 11&#58;00 AM) 1412780</div><div class='quotemain'>
Lincoln freed the slaves - he was a Republican. The South stayed segregated until the mid 1960&#39;s - the South was democratic. The only group that voted en masses against the Civil rights movement were the southern democrats. As usual your silly liberal argrument bears no facts and are untrue. Learn histroy before citing it. That is another blessing of Republicans - they are educated.
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Do you ever question your &quot;republicans always right, democrats always wrong&quot; mentality? Both sides have been responsible for terrible things throughout our history.

Melvin_Makle
10-20-2006, 06:00 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;02 PM) 1412796</div><div class='quotemain'>
the point is liberals didn&#39;t end slavery
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I don&#39;t think what counts as liberals these days, were around during the Civil War.

gji074
10-20-2006, 06:03 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Melvin_Makle &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;01 PM) 1412788</div><div class='quotemain'>
...in order to win a war.

The old lets not fight our own war but, have our lowest class and emigants do it for us. /forums/html/emoticons/towel.gif
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Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation started the hostilities of the Civil War.

USMC &#39;66 - &#39;68 I have never thought of myself as a member of the lowest class

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 06:04 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Melvin_Makle &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;05 PM) 1412804</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don&#39;t think what counts as liberals these days, were around during the Civil War.
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fine, how about everyone who ever did anything good were libertarians and anyone who ever did anything bad were pagans

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;08 PM) 1412808</div><div class='quotemain'>
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation started the hostilities of the Civil War.

USMC &#39;66 - &#39;68 I have never thought of myself as a member of the lowest class
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you&#39;re not, and thank you for your service, but you aren&#39;t helping your own cause with that user name /forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif

CactusJack
10-20-2006, 06:06 PM
Off to work.. Hey moderator, if you&#39;re reading this, set up a Current Events forum again. It&#39;s OK to talk politics&#33;

gji074
10-20-2006, 06:07 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MidasMulligan &#064; Oct 20 2006, 12&#58;09 PM) 1412810</div><div class='quotemain'>
fine, how about everyone who ever did anything good were libertarians and anyone who ever did anything bad were pagans
you&#39;re not, and thank you for your service, but you aren&#39;t helping your own cause with that user name /forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif
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How so?

MidasMulligan
10-20-2006, 06:08 PM
oh, and to all the people who keep randomly popping in here and offering curse-filled rants about why we should stop discussing politics:

there are 50 threads for each of this board&#39;s favorite topics, ranging from why we should all jump off ledges cuz tiki is retiring, to the upcoming dallas game, to brandon jacobs sudden lack of ability to why harooni wants to get gangbanged and rainbow showered by tiki bear and kurt warner. if you don&#39;t like this ONE THREAD then just move on. if the mods deem it appropriate to delete this thread they will not hesitate to do so