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slipknottin
04-25-2013, 07:23 AM
1. Tank Carradine DE
2. Sio Moore. OLB
3. Darius Slay CB
4. Xavier Nixon OT/OG
5. Josh Boyd DT
6. Denard Robinson WR/KR/PR
7. Levine Toilolo TE
7. Alonzo Tweedy S

Kruunch
04-25-2013, 07:38 AM
Want the guy with the ACL eh?

I'd be ok with all but Darius Slay ... not in love with guys who play football but shy away from contact.

I'll be amazed if Carradine goes in the first round though.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 08:07 AM
Did you see the video of Tanks workout? He is the best DE in this draft. No acl injury he goes top 5 without question. And what better team for him to go to than a team with a couple good ends already there and can let him recover.

As for Slay, you don't get many opportunities to get 6' corners who can run sub 4.4 and are good cover guys. And I don't see any lack of physical play with him. He seems to enjoy hitting and is active against the run

Morehead State
04-25-2013, 08:10 AM
Did you see the video of Tanks workout? He is the best DE in this draft. No acl injury he goes top 5 without question. And what better team for him to go to than a team with a couple good ends already there and can let him recover.

As for Slay, you don't get many opportunities to get 6' corners who can run sub 4.4 and are good cover guys
I don't know Slip. 1st round pick on a guy coming off an ACL. While the up side is huge, I'd hate to take that kind of risk (and it is a risk) with a 1st round pick.
I think we're drafting Werner.

TCHOF
04-25-2013, 09:05 AM
I don't know Slip. 1st round pick on a guy coming off an ACL. While the up side is huge, I'd hate to take that kind of risk (and it is a risk) with a 1st round pick.
I think we're drafting Werner.

If Carradine and Werner are both there, it will be a tough call, but the thing that I trust most about this FO is their ability to pick pass rushers. For that reason, I'll be on board with any DE pick they make. I learned my lesson when I was less than enthused over the JPP pick.

Morehead State
04-25-2013, 09:07 AM
If Carradine and Werner are both there, it will be a tough call, but the thing that I trust most about this FO is their ability to pick pass rushers. For that reason, I'll be on board with any DE pick they make. I learned my lesson when I was less than enthused over the JPP pick.
I'm half German so I have to go with Werner.

Kruunch
04-25-2013, 09:35 AM
Did you see the video of Tanks workout? He is the best DE in this draft. No acl injury he goes top 5 without question. And what better team for him to go to than a team with a couple good ends already there and can let him recover.

As for Slay, you don't get many opportunities to get 6' corners who can run sub 4.4 and are good cover guys. And I don't see any lack of physical play with him. He seems to enjoy hitting and is active against the run

I will admit to being privately intrigued by the idea of Carradine on the Giants but I just don't like drafting someone who already has an ACL and is currently recovering from it. And we need a DE that can hit the ground running (pun definitely intended) as I don't trust any of our current guys past JPP. But our medical staff is pretty much the top of the league for that type of stuff so if they are ok with it, who am I to argue?

And I'm not sure which Slay films you've been watching but he plays like Wilma Flintstone (hitting wise). He is definitely a talent in coverage but we run so much zone I'd be afraid of him matched up against the bigger and more explosive receivers in the league.

TCHOF
04-25-2013, 09:44 AM
I will admit to being privately intrigued by the idea of Carradine on the Giants but I just don't like drafting someone who already has an ACL and is currently recovering from it. And we need a DE that can hit the ground running (pun definitely intended) as I don't trust any of our current guys past JPP. But our medical staff is pretty much the top of the league for that type of stuff so if they are ok with it, who am I to argue?

And I'm not sure which Slay films you've been watching but he plays like Wilma Flintstone (hitting wise). He is definitely a talent in coverage but we run so much zone I'd be afraid of him matched up against the bigger and more explosive receivers in the league.

Dude, Wilma was pretty tough. Go back and watch some of the old Flinstone tapes.

TAILGATIN'
04-25-2013, 10:21 AM
If Carradine and Werner are both there, it will be a tough call, but the thing that I trust most about this FO is their ability to pick pass rushers. For that reason, I'll be on board with any DE pick they make. I learned my lesson when I was less than enthused over the JPP pick.
Same. Id be ok with whoever they choose.

DarceChoke
04-25-2013, 10:54 AM
Love the first 3 rounds. I really believe Tank will be the pick tonight, unless some top 10 talent drops. Sio Moore is a guy I just started watching and I'd be really excited with him as our new SAM. Are pass rush would get a great boost from this draft for years to come. Throw in Slay and are defense is looking to be much improved.

Slip, do you know if the 40 of 4.75 and 1.63 split was right or was it the 4.9ish? Either way its highly impressive.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 11:04 AM
Love the first 3 rounds. I really believe Tank will be the pick tonight, unless some top 10 talent drops. Sio Moore is a guy I just started watching and I'd be really excited with him as our new SAM. Are pass rush would get a great boost from this draft for years to come. Throw in Slay and are defense is looking to be much improved.

Slip, do you know if the 40 of 4.75 and 1.63 split was right or was it the 4.9ish? Either way its highly impressive.

I think it was confirmed to be around a 4.9 something. But watching him run it, you can tell he isn't close to being 100% yet.

G-Men Surg.
04-25-2013, 12:43 PM
I don't know Slip. 1st round pick on a guy coming off an ACL. While the up side is huge, I'd hate to take that kind of risk (and it is a risk) with a 1st round pick.
I think we're drafting Werner.

I like Tank but can't stop thinking about the Terrell Thomas actual situation when I think about Carradine. Don't want to take a risk on a high draft pick again with an ACL injury history even less with a 1st round pick.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 01:21 PM
I like Tank but can't stop thinking about the Terrell Thomas actual situation when I think about Carradine. Don't want to take a risk on a high draft pick again with an ACL injury history even less with a 1st round pick.

Or adrian Peterson, who was rushing for 2k yards after his acl.

I know the concerns of it. But I believe he is almost done with his rehab and things seem fine.

G-Men Surg.
04-25-2013, 02:03 PM
Or adrian Peterson, who was rushing for 2k yards after his acl.

I know the concerns of it. But I believe he is almost done with his rehab and things seem fine.
My point is having an ACL injury coming out of college. With Adrian the Vicks already had a financial commitment when he got injured and obviously they are praying for everything to pan out. Maybe this is not the best explanation but to me I can see this like buying a new Ferrari with some motor repairs already done. I feel there's enough value at 19th to go in another direction

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 02:14 PM
Well it's just how he checks medically. If cleared he's a top 10 pick.

Though Garafolo just said that there are rumors Tank did not do well in his medical checks

G-Men Surg.
04-25-2013, 02:20 PM
Well it's just how he checks medically. If cleared he's a top 10 pick.

Though Garafolo just said that there are rumors Tank did not do well in his medical checks

And still as you mention would be a high risk high reward draft pick. Really a shame he got injured, I feel for the kid.

Morehead State
04-25-2013, 02:47 PM
Or adrian Peterson, who was rushing for 2k yards after his acl.

I know the concerns of it. But I believe he is almost done with his rehab and things seem fine.
TT seemed fine too.

Don't forget Duante Culpepper who was never the same. And lets not forget how long its taking Derek Rose as well.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 02:48 PM
TT seemed fine too.

Don't forget Duante Culpepper who was never the same. And lets not forget how long its taking Derek Rose as well.

Doesn't matter.

If Tank failed his giants physical he won't be on their board.

Have to change my mock! So much for this being the final one

Kruunch
04-25-2013, 02:58 PM
Doesn't matter.

If Tank failed his giants physical he won't be on their board.

Have to change my mock! So much for this being the final one

Easy replacement .... go with his team mate, Werner.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 03:08 PM
Easy replacement .... go with his team mate, Werner.

I'm not to fond of Werner. Don't think he's a natural pass rusher

Kruunch
04-25-2013, 03:15 PM
I'm not to fond of Werner. Don't think he's a natural pass rusher

True, he's not ... hence him playing the strong side. Let JPP lose a few pounds and keep him on the right side.

Morehead State
04-25-2013, 03:18 PM
I'm not to fond of Werner. Don't think he's a natural pass rusher
Yeah I'm less interested in his pass rushing as I am his stoutness on the left side.
Right now, he would be there to add to the rotation, which is vital in our defense. Eventually, he would be there to replace Tuck.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 03:42 PM
Yeah I'm less interested in his pass rushing as I am his stoutness on the left side.
Right now, he would be there to add to the rotation, which is vital in our defense. Eventually, he would be there to replace Tuck.


Tuck was a fantastic pass rusher though. He was very much a threat at LE. And a great pass rusher from inside.

Not sure Werner is more than a 6 sack a year guy. Which to me means they will eventually need to find at least a situational pass rusher for that spot

King Sully
04-25-2013, 04:49 PM
Overall really like this mock, would sio be a slb for us? Kinda in the mold of what we wanted out of sintim

nycsportzfan
04-25-2013, 04:52 PM
Tuck was a fantastic pass rusher though. He was very much a threat at LE. And a great pass rusher from inside.

Not sure Werner is more than a 6 sack a year guy. Which to me means they will eventually need to find at least a situational pass rusher for that spot He gets to the QB, thats what he does.. I don't care if he don't do it the way u think DE's have to, he gets there... Hes a football player.. Its something he gets, and u can see that in his play.. Hes plenty strong, big, and uses his hands well.. This guy will get sacks.....

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 05:23 PM
Overall really like this mock, would sio be a slb for us? Kinda in the mold of what we wanted out of sintim

Yes, I think Sio would be the SLB. Though he could probably play any of the LB positions, which is what he did in college

Morehead State
04-25-2013, 06:11 PM
Tuck was a fantastic pass rusher though. He was very much a threat at LE. And a great pass rusher from inside.

Not sure Werner is more than a 6 sack a year guy. Which to me means they will eventually need to find at least a situational pass rusher for that spot
I mean replace his position. Every player brings something unique. This draft looks like it might blow up though. Have a feeling a real gem is falling to us. Maybe Rhodes. These teams talk a big game about value, but those who need QB's can't help reaching when crunch time comes.

slipknottin
04-25-2013, 06:23 PM
I mean replace his position. Every player brings something unique. This draft looks like it might blow up though. Have a feeling a real gem is falling to us. Maybe Rhodes. These teams talk a big game about value, but those who need QB's can't help reaching when crunch time comes.

Yea this draft could easily be a huge mess too. Lol.

G-Men Surg.
04-25-2013, 06:42 PM
Yes, I think Sio would be the SLB. Though he could probably play any of the LB positions, which is what he did in college

I prefer Jamie Collins as a SLB but agree Sio more versatile than Collins.