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BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 02:36 PM
I think he wanted to stuff the run, and wanted it to start in the trenches so he got Hankins. However, we are thin at LB, and most are injury prone. Greene would of likely fell to us, devin taylor is still available. I don't understand the need for OT, DT,and QB selections. Those should be for next draft. This draft was weird.

Carter.525
04-27-2013, 02:37 PM
Reese hates LBs.. that is all

titwio
04-27-2013, 02:38 PM
He wasn't thinking

Cloud57
04-27-2013, 02:39 PM
Something tell me Gilbride is doing the drafting lol

JAYPEE
04-27-2013, 02:40 PM
He's thinking lets get our future right tackle, some quality rotational players on the d-line, and a QB to groom behind Eli

myles2424
04-27-2013, 02:40 PM
This is a typical draft minus BPA....we'll get one good player to come of this drat & bunch of bums as usual

Carter.525
04-27-2013, 02:41 PM
He's thinking lets get our future right tackle, some quality rotational players on the d-line, and a QB to groom behind EliI think you nailed it brother..

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 02:41 PM
I dont see how OL and DL werent needs?

Giants have a bunch of 30+ year old DTs on one year deals, Linval's contract ends after this season, Kuhn is coming off an ACL, and Austin has done nothing.

OL if anyone on that OL got hurt, they are starting guys like Cordle, if Diehl got hurt, they are starting who, Brewer?

Backup QB is the most iffy one, but Carr has to be gone in another year I would think.

Buddy333
04-27-2013, 02:43 PM
He clearly wasn't thinking about ruining everyone's mock draft. He has a job to do.

TheEnigma
04-27-2013, 02:43 PM
I have no issues with what he is trying to fix but just disagree with the values of the Cuse players. I'm over the Pugh selection now since it's obvious Reese and Co wanted to get the safest player possible in a 1st with little talent.

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 02:44 PM
I disagree, Reech said let's mess with the Giants Fans and do a draft they'd never mock again lol.

The value that fell to them...Okafor, Rhodes, Werner, Jamar Taylor, Devin Taylor, Khseem Greene...We may just take Marcus Lattimore in the 5th, waste a pnother pick on a position we don't need.

G-Men Surg.
04-27-2013, 02:44 PM
This is a typical draft minus BPA....we'll get one good player to come of this drat & bunch of bums as usual
lol I get what you are saying but I love a 7th round bum ala Bradshaw any day. Let see is Reese can pull a rabbit out of the hat this time or maybe two with those 7th round picks.

Carter.525
04-27-2013, 02:45 PM
I have no issues with what he is trying to fix but just disagree with the values of the Cuse players. I'm over the Pugh selection now since it's obvious Reese and Co wanted to get the safest player possible in a 1st with little talent.Yea Nassib is safe.. Real safe on the bench for the next 7 years..

myles2424
04-27-2013, 02:45 PM
We've passed on alot of talent....we'll be hearing some "omg we could've drafted___" in a few years

myles2424
04-27-2013, 02:45 PM
lol I get what you are saying but I love a 7th round bum ala Bradshaw any day. Let see is Reese can pull a rabbit out of the hat this time or maybe two with those 7th round picks.
Looking at our late round picks the past few years, I wouldn't hold your breath...

tonyt830
04-27-2013, 02:46 PM
I disagree, Reech said let's mess with the Giants Fans and do a draft they'd never mock again lol.

The value that fell to them...Okafor, Rhodes, Werner, Jamar Taylor, Devin Taylor, Khseem Greene...We may just take Marcus Lattimore in the 5th, waste a pnother pick on a position we don't need.I think Reese should go after the best K or P available, maybe a WR in the 5th rd(red font). What a joke of a draft, Reese has stunk it up this year.

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 02:47 PM
Rambo is still on the board, Poyer, Baurenheis LB from Rutgers i like a lot. But Reese isn't right this draft.

myles2424
04-27-2013, 02:48 PM
My favorite draft moment soo far, passing on a 1st round CB & LB (Taylor & brown) to draft a run stuffing DT exactly where he was projected to go,no value

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 02:49 PM
It's spencer paysinger time! lol, Teams are vastly improved during free agency and the draft, not looking good.

Buddy333
04-27-2013, 02:49 PM
Months ago the Giants said they needed to get better in the trenches. That's exactly what they drafted for and worked on in FA.

paulj
04-27-2013, 02:53 PM
I think he wanted to stuff the run, and wanted it to start in the trenches so he got Hankins. However, we are thin at LB, and most are injury prone. Greene would of likely fell to us, devin taylor is still available. I don't understand the need for OT, DT,and QB selections. Those should be for next draft. This draft was weird.

OT and DT were good smart picks.
However we could have selecetd a DB or LB, but Reese chose not to obviously.
Carr is old and we need a bavkup to groom.
We mat get a LB with 5th rnd pick?

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 02:54 PM
Yea Nassib is safe.. Real safe on the bench for the next 7 years..

I actually predicted we'd take Nassib or Barkley in the 4th, given the way he's gone about this particular draft. Looks like Lattimore may go in the 5th. lol

BlueSanta
04-27-2013, 02:54 PM
Months ago the Giants said they needed to get better in the trenches. That's exactly what they drafted for and worked on in FA.

Its not a big surprise really. Last offseason they said their #1 priority was improving the run game, and they drafted a RB.

This year they said the trenches are the #1 priority, and they spent the 1st 3 picks on it.

I am not sure why people are so surprised.

G-Men Surg.
04-27-2013, 02:54 PM
Looking at our late round picks the past few years, I wouldn't hold your breath...
Well you always miss more than you hit in later rounds . At this moment I got nothing more than hope.

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 02:57 PM
OT and DT were good smart picks.
However we could have selecetd a DB or LB, but Reese chose not to obviously.
Carr is old and we need a bavkup to groom.
We mat get a LB with 5th rnd pick?

I agree there was some thought put into those picks. But they aren't exactly immensely talented. They look like Backups. Rhodes could of been the starte opposite Prince for the next decade. LB in the fifth, i like that Rutgers MLB. But i think Reese is switchin up his style. Trying to do something different this draft, and i'm dumbfounded.

AGiantDynasty
04-27-2013, 03:00 PM
Worse draft in 10 years for us. Looks like we are trying to be in the clowney sweepstakes instead of trying to a playoff team.

Toooo much talent we left on the board. This sucks.

speedman
04-27-2013, 03:00 PM
What makes any of you think you are better evaluators of talent than Reese and Ross? I would really like to hear why you feel that way.

tonyt830
04-27-2013, 03:04 PM
Its not a big surprise really. Last offseason they said their #1 priority was improving the run game, and they drafted a RB.

This year they said the trenches are the #1 priority, and they spent the 1st 3 picks on it.

I am not sure why people are so surprised.I have no problems with addressing the trenches, but Pugh was a reach at 19. I dont recall seeing any mocks with him as a 1st rd draft pick. But they passed up Floyd who was available at 19 to reach for a 2nd or 3rd rd OT/G. They could have added Floyd and gone after Pugh in the 2nd rd if they were so enamored by him. Then to add a QB, and trade up for him, in the 4th rd is a head scratcher. He wont see the field as a starter for several years.

And in the process Reese has ignored a LB or CB in the draft---2 areas that need some attention, considering our defense was ranked 31st in the league last year. I am not confident in Webster or Ross playing opposite Prince. Connor and Rivers are injury prone, and Williams cant do it all at the LB position. I can actually see teams moving the ball effectively on the Giants D again this season and Webster giving up the big plays again.

Giantslb66
04-27-2013, 03:05 PM
What makes any of you think you are better evaluators of talent than Reese and Ross? I would really like to hear why you feel that way.Oh relax, this is what these message boards are about. A place for people to share opinions. You can be a huge NYG fan and not drink the Kool-Aide you know. You probably go "apesh*t" if there is more than one thread about a topic. RELAX Bud........

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:06 PM
I dont see how OL and DL werent needs?

Giants have a bunch of 30+ year old DTs on one year deals, Linval's contract ends after this season, Kuhn is coming off an ACL, and Austin has done nothing.

OL if anyone on that OL got hurt, they are starting guys like Cordle, if Diehl got hurt, they are starting who, Brewer?

Backup QB is the most iffy one, but Carr has to be gone in another year I would think. So u reach for a guy who u don't even know if he can play T in the NFL a rd early to fix the problem? U draft a DT that has endurance issues and underachieved on the field and his stock has fallen with his lack luster player? And even the pick i like, Moore has a ton of offield issues, and i read weeks ago a quote that litteraly said "Damontre Moore would not be able to play in a place like NYC because of his maturity issues".

This draft is mad suspect..... Its one of the worst drafts of any team, on paper..

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 03:07 PM
I have no problems with addressing the trenches, but Pugh was a reach at 19. I dont recall seeing any mocks with him as a 1st rd draft pick. But they passed up Floyd who was available at 19 to reach for a 2nd or 3rd rd OT/G. They could have added Floyd and gone after Pugh in the 2nd rd if they were so enamored by him. Then to add a QB, and trade up for him, in the 4th rd is a head scratcher. He wont see the field as a starter for several years.

And in the process Reese has ignored a LB or CB in the draft---2 areas that need some attention, considering our defense was ranked 31st in the league last year. I am not confident in Webster or Ross playing opposite Prince. Connor and Rivers are injury prone, and Williams cant do it all at the LB position. I can actually see teams moving the ball effectively on the Giants D again this season and Webster giving up the big plays again.

+1, we stay the same, while the other teams got much better. San Fran looks real good, with their draft and Free Agent Pick ups.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:08 PM
Its not a big surprise really. Last offseason they said their #1 priority was improving the run game, and they drafted a RB.

This year they said the trenches are the #1 priority, and they spent the 1st 3 picks on it.

I am not sure why people are so surprised. Reese is litteraly quoted as saying he wants to upgrade the LB core...

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:10 PM
I have no problems with addressing the trenches, but Pugh was a reach at 19. I dont recall seeing any mocks with him as a 1st rd draft pick. But they passed up Floyd who was available at 19 to reach for a 2nd or 3rd rd OT/G. They could have added Floyd and gone after Pugh in the 2nd rd if they were so enamored by him. Then to add a QB, and trade up for him, in the 4th rd is a head scratcher. He wont see the field as a starter for several years.

And in the process Reese has ignored a LB or CB in the draft---2 areas that need some attention, considering our defense was ranked 31st in the league last year. I am not confident in Webster or Ross playing opposite Prince. Connor and Rivers are injury prone, and Williams cant do it all at the LB position. I can actually see teams moving the ball effectively on the Giants D again this season and Webster giving up the big plays again. They could of had Kawaan Short, who would of made more sense then Pugh, and then drafted a guy like Larry Warford in RD 2, and then still got Moore in RD3, and then Khaseem Greene in RD4..

I think a high school kid could of drafted better then Reese did this yr.. Its amazing the guy got paid for this...

speedman
04-27-2013, 03:15 PM
You guys kill me. Still didn't answer the question as to why you think you know more than our Professionals.

Buddy333
04-27-2013, 03:23 PM
Reese is litteraly quoted as saying he wants to upgrade the LB core...Yeah and his boss said he wanted to fix the lines.

Buddy333
04-27-2013, 03:25 PM
You guys kill me. Still didn't answer the question as to why you think you know more than our Professionals.Reese ruined their mocks they have been working on.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:26 PM
You guys kill me. Still didn't answer the question as to why you think you know more than our Professionals. Its the draft forum, dude!!!lol GO start, a kiss the FO a-ss forum if u don't like anything but "i love the pick"...

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:29 PM
Yeah and his boss said he wanted to fix the lines. And u think we did? Its a question, i'm curious to know ur opinion..

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 03:29 PM
You guys kill me. Still didn't answer the question as to why you think you know more than our Professionals.

Professionals are falliable human beings too.. Reese had some similar thinking to fans, hear the press interview on Reese trading up for Nassib. On how he was "too much value to pass up, they thought he'd go in the 2nd row" And how they saw how philly took Matt Barkley in the 4th and traded up ahead of them too. Wow Genius insight he had there. Then to say maybe we should nab Nassib here for the future, knowing the unlikely hood of being able to land a Johnny Manziel in a couple years. Why not develop Nassib Now?

speedman
04-27-2013, 03:30 PM
Its the draft forum, dude!!!lol GO start, a kiss the FO a-ss forum if u don't like anything but "i love the pick"...Answer the question to become legit

Buddy333
04-27-2013, 03:31 PM
And u think we did? Its a question, i'm curious to know ur opinion..Time will tell. He made some moves in FA and the draft.

kNicksGiants
04-27-2013, 03:36 PM
negative people are gonna be negative regardless. it is what it is.

tonyt830
04-27-2013, 03:38 PM
They could of had Kawaan Short, who would of made more sense then Pugh, and then drafted a guy like Larry Warford in RD 2, and then still got Moore in RD3, and then Khaseem Greene in RD4..

I think a high school kid could of drafted better then Reese did this yr.. Its amazing the guy got paid for this...I would have been ok with Warford in the 2nd rd as well. And I probably would have been ok with Pugh in the 2nd rd if thats who they wanted.

But to see Floyd, Short, Rhodes, Trufant, Taylor, Werner, and Brown sitting there when the Giants selected in rounds 1 and 2, and for them to pass on them, just puzzles me some. Then to not only draft a QB, Nassib or otherwise in the 4th rd, the Giants trade up and lose a 6th rd pick in the process.

I guess Reese and the staff are ok with Webster and/or Ross at the CB position opposite of Prince. And I guess the FO feels that Rivers, Connor and Williams will stay healthy and are their favorites to start at LB. Hey more power to the FO/management. They are paid to know more then me and handle their business. My opinion is just my 2 cents, Reese and co could care less about my 2 cents.

titwio
04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
You guys kill me. Still didn't answer the question as to why you think you know more than our Professionals.

Because NFL GM's are not infallible. Reese has made plenty of mistakes but it's not like some of us are saying we should be the GM. Some of us watch college football and scout the players. We're not just spitting out negativity and questioning the picks for nothing.

Are we not allowwed to voice are opinions without people saying "we're know-it-all's"? Seriously these kinds of posts (I'm responding to) are just shortcuts to thinking for yourselves. If you disagree with anything the Giants do your being "negative"....SMH.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:39 PM
Because NFL GM's are not infallible. Reese has made plenty of mistakes but it's not like some of us are saying we should be the GM. Some of us watch college football and scout the players. We're not just spitting out negativity and questioning the picks for nothing.

Are we not allowwed to voice are opinions without people saying "we're know-it-all's"? Seriously these kinds of posts (I'm responding to) are just shortcuts to thinking for yourselves. If you disagree with anything the Giants do your being "negative"....SMH. The same people saild the same thing about people who questioned Sinorice Moss, Clint Sintim, Bryan Kehl, Ramses Barden, Marvin Austin, and others as well.. Who cares? They won't be in these forums after today till next yr at this time anyways, so screw it...

titwio
04-27-2013, 04:45 PM
The same people saild the same thing about people who questioned Sinorice Moss, Clint Sintim, Bryan Kehl, Ramses Barden, Marvin Austin, and others as well.. Who cares? They won't be in these forums after today till next yr at this time anyways, so screw it...

Exaclty....Phillip Dillard was a STUD.

I rarely ever question Reese and have been one of his biggest supporters on this site. The moment I speak up with my opinion and criticism over a pick it's like I'm not even allowed to do that.

It's like "who are you...a professional?!"....lol

hugehomer
04-27-2013, 05:04 PM
So u reach for a guy who u don't even know if he can play T in the NFL a rd early to fix the problem? U draft a DT that has endurance issues and underachieved on the field and his stock has fallen with his lack luster player? And even the pick i like, Moore has a ton of offield issues, and i read weeks ago a quote that litteraly said "Damontre Moore would not be able to play in a place like NYC because of his maturity issues".

This draft is mad suspect..... Its one of the worst drafts of any team, on paper..

Pugh cant play tackle? Wow, where did you come up with that?