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BigBlueBeatsU
04-27-2013, 03:52 PM
thoughts?

zbo5002
04-27-2013, 03:53 PM
probly could have went undrafted.....

FBomb
04-27-2013, 03:53 PM
I don't know anything about him.....but I'm SURE he's a bust. "Reach" sucks

Cloud57
04-27-2013, 03:53 PM
S who will play LB, no joke

Sovereign
04-27-2013, 03:54 PM
probly could have went undrafted.....

He's a 6'5'' SS. How many of those exist? He runs as fast as Nicks but he's 4 or 5 inches taller. It's the 5ht round what the hell do you want?

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 03:54 PM
WHO?! WTF., this is the worse draft i can remember..He had Devin Taylor, Jordan Poyer still there!

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
Hes intriguing, thats for sure... I didn't see anyone have em anywhere but the 7th to undrafted, but hes still intriguing... Could be a LB/S hybrid..

BigBlueBeatsU
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
we shouldve gotten jordan poyer

TheEnigma
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
Dude can be a real beast. Has all the physical traits you look for in a S and his hips aren't that stiff like you would expect. The only issue is that he was diagnosed with Wolff–Parkinson–White syndrome

DVision
04-27-2013, 03:55 PM
6'5" 228 4.58 and 4.59 40. Reminiscent of Kam Chancellor who also was a 5th round pick.

Carter.525
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
WHO?! WTF., this is the worse draft i can remember..He had Devin Taylor, Jordan Poyer still there!Taylor is gone, Lions I think.. could have taken Rambo...... but what the hell do I know!?!?!?

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
I don't know anything about him.....but I'm SURE he's a bust. "Reach" sucks Thats funny, i was thinking the opposite, that its jerry reese and it must be a great pick, and how dare u be critical of a team that missed the postseason last yr..lol

Cloud57
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1619598/cooper-taylor

myles2424
04-27-2013, 03:56 PM
Once again....we only draft far reach projects in the late rounds....this is all we do 5-7

TheEnigma
04-27-2013, 03:57 PM
Apparently he had a corrective procedure for it but I don't really know enough about the syndrome to know if it will come back or not.

thegreatone
04-27-2013, 03:57 PM
Would've rather had rontez miles but is an interesting prospect

DVision
04-27-2013, 03:57 PM
I don't know anything about him.....but I'm SURE he's a bust. "Reach" sucks

These are the things I was hearing yesterday that had me ROFL:)

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:58 PM
Taylor is gone, Lions I think.. could have taken Rambo...... but what the hell do I know!?!?!? Nothing, u didn't know? lol I miss the draft boards the other 360or so days a yr around here, when u can discuss the draft picks freely and there isn't a 100people outta nowhere being ridiculously biased..

Morehead State
04-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Nothing, u didn't know? lol I miss the draft boards the other 360or so days a yr around here, when u can discuss the draft picks freely and there isn't a 100people outta nowhere being ridiculously biased..
I hear his best pro position might be WILL if he gains about 10 lbs.
But he has a heart condition.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Dude can be a real beast. Has all the physical traits you look for in a S and his hips aren't that stiff like you would expect. The only issue is that he was diagnosed with Wolff–Parkinson–White syndrome Ya, Cooper Taylor is really intriguing, good blend of size and speed.. First thing i think of is Deon Grant... Again, i thought he'd of been a great 7th rd draft pick, not a 5th, but whatever, at least hes a intriguing player..

FBomb
04-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Due to his serious medical condition he had in the past, I have questions about this pick.

CGYgiant
04-27-2013, 04:00 PM
Nothing, u didn't know? lol I miss the draft boards the other 360or so days a yr around here, when u can discuss the draft picks freely and there isn't a 100people outta nowhere being ridiculously biased..

Its really a shame. I mean the only way for the Giants to possibly have a good draft it to pick ONLY the players you like, Doesn't matter if you reach for them. As long as you like them its perfect. Only then can the Giants succeed.


Right..

TheEnigma
04-27-2013, 04:00 PM
I highly doubt they see this kid as a linebacker but more of a S who should match up well in coverage with all of the TEs that are now entering the NFCE.

Morehead State
04-27-2013, 04:00 PM
S who will play LB, no joke
Ever heard of Brad Van Pelt?

He was pretty good.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:01 PM
I hear his best pro position might be WILL if he gains about 10 lbs.
But he has a heart condition. Ya, i was thinking hybrid S/LB myself.. He was on my radar, and we've discussed em on these boards more then a few times as a intriguing "VERY LATE" rd draft pick, so obviously i thought 5th was alittle early, but whatever...

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:02 PM
Its really a shame. I mean the only way for the Giants to possibly have a good draft it to pick ONLY the players you like, Doesn't matter if you reach for them. As long as you like them its perfect. Only then can the Giants succeed.


Right..blah blah blah

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:02 PM
Nothing, u didn't know? lol I miss the draft boards the other 360or so days a yr around here, when u can discuss the draft picks freely and there isn't a 100people outta nowhere being ridiculously biased..

Spending 360 days discussing draft picks on the GMB must make you an expert! The guys that get paid 360 days a year to watch film, interview players and coaches, and watch practices know absolutely nothing!!!

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 04:03 PM
These are "supposed to be Cooper Taylors "highlights"..Jenzen Jackson was supposed to be intruging too, didn't even make the preseason cut. Rambo, Poyer were better picks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keDMX76oW1Q

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:04 PM
blah blah blah

Funny when you comment I hear the teacher from Charlie Brown:)

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:05 PM
Spending 360 days discussing draft picks on the GMB must make you an expert! The guys that get paid 360 days a year to watch film, interview players and coaches, and watch practices know absolutely nothing!!! No, it means, this is where we talk about liking or disliking prospects and form are opinons about the players, and don't change our minds just because our team drafted em..

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:05 PM
Funny when you comment I hear the teacher from Charlie Brown:) cool.

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 04:05 PM
Due to his serious medical condition he had in the past, I have questions about this pick.

He was medically cleared

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:06 PM
These are "supposed to be Cooper Taylors "highlights"..Jenzen Jackson was supposed to be intruging too, didn't even make the preseason cut. Rambo, Poyer were better picks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keDMX76oW1Q

You should have forwarded that youtube footage to the FO! I'm sure they haven't seen any film on him!

Kovalchuk71
04-27-2013, 04:07 PM
Due to his serious medical condition he had in the past, I have questions about this pick.

Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN)3h (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN/status/328222788999602176)
Taylor apparently underwent a "corrective procedure" on his heart after the 2009 season, according to reports.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:07 PM
Even though i thought he was a 7th rd pick, hes got certain intrigue to me, and i liked em as a sleeper, so i'm excited to see what hes got... I hope whatever the medical conditon hes got, isn't serious...

tonyt830
04-27-2013, 04:07 PM
Well I hope the heart condition/medical issue is something that is in the past or is under control. The kid sounds like he could be a good hybrid/wildcard type player to match-up with some of these offensive schemes teams are running now.

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:07 PM
No, it means, this is where we talk about liking or disliking prospects and form are opinons about the players, and don't change our minds just because our team drafted em..

That's fine, but you don't discuss much. Seems your opinion is the end all be all and everyone else is just a homer. smh

FBomb
04-27-2013, 04:14 PM
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN)3h (https://twitter.com/RVacchianoNYDN/status/328222788999602176)
Taylor apparently underwent a "corrective procedure" on his heart after the 2009 season, according to reports.

Well...I hope the kid works out then.

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:14 PM
That's fine, but you don't discuss much. Seems your opinion is the end all be all and everyone else is just a homer. smh well, then learn how to read..

Redeyejedi
04-27-2013, 04:16 PM
thoughts?I would be surprised if anyone here has seen this kid play more then once or twice not counting the post season bowl game

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 04:19 PM
They were looking for a replacement for Kenny Phillips. Has similar size and build, good hips, but nothing special. Good Tackler, probably will make him a deep safety

tonyt830
04-27-2013, 04:21 PM
Due to his serious medical condition he had in the past, I have questions about this pick.FBomb, when you get a chance check your PM.

Redeyejedi
04-27-2013, 04:21 PM
They were looking for a replacement for Kenny Phillips. Has similar size and build, good hips, but nothing special. Good Tackler, probably will make him a deep safetyHave a hard time seeing him covering a lot of ground deep being 6'4 228. Sounds like an in the box LB type

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:24 PM
Have a hard time seeing him covering a lot of ground deep being 6'4 228. Sounds like an in the box LB type

Phillips ran a 4.48 40. Cooper a 4.49 and he supposedly has fluid hips. You don't think he can get sideline to sideline?

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 04:24 PM
Have a hard time seeing him covering a lot of ground deep being 6'4 228. Sounds like an in the box LB type

The height in batting down deep long throws and hail mary's. Either way, we had an in the box safety literally in rolle and Hill, need safeties with cover skills

Redeyejedi
04-27-2013, 04:26 PM
Phillips ran a 4.48 40. Cooper a 4.49 and he supposedly has fluid hips. You don't think he can get sideline to sideline?Doubtful if he had fluid hips and had that size he wouldnt get drafted in the 5th round

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 04:26 PM
Have a hard time seeing him covering a lot of ground deep being 6'4 228. Sounds like an in the box LB type

Shrine game they were saying his range was impressive deep.

Think he fits very well as a C2 safety.

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:28 PM
Doubtful if he had fluid hips and had that size he wouldnt get drafted in the 5th round

Kam Chancellor was a 5th round pick!

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 04:29 PM
Kam Chancellor was a 5th round pick!

because his skill set didnt fit for a lot of teams.

Seahawks have an unusual defensive system that needs a guy like Chancellor, most teams dont

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:30 PM
Kam Chancellor was a 5th round pick!
Kam Chancellor is in the box safety, and Earl Thomas is there cover safety...

BlueSanta
04-27-2013, 04:31 PM
The height in batting down deep long throws and hail mary's. Either way, we had an in the box safety literally in rolle and Hill, need safeties with cover skills

This is a guy designed to play Safety in the box and stick to a TE in coverage.

Tall safties and defensive backs in general are becoming more and more in vogue in the league. Since you cannot mess with a wr before they catch the ball, and since you cannot touch them hard after they catch it to dislodge it, the league is moving to interfere with passing lanes, and you do that with tall, long arms players in the back end.

Furthermore, the new rules heavily favor TEs who are all too tall and physical for most Dbs.

FBomb
04-27-2013, 04:31 PM
FBomb, when you get a chance check your PM.

Done......I'm sorry, but I cannot date you. Morehead would be crushed!!:o

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:32 PM
Shrine game they were saying his range was impressive deep.

Think he fits very well as a C2 safety. I agree.. I think his size/speed is the most intriguing part of his game of course, and also, i'm sure that size/speed is really intriguing for ST's...

GTGiantsFan
04-27-2013, 04:33 PM
Why do people expect the Giants to actually see any impact come out of him? He won't play at all the first year because of Coughlins rookie rule, he'll be turned into a LBer which isn't a need according to Reese in his second year and will be sitting behind the Dan Connors of the world.

Carter.525
04-27-2013, 04:34 PM
the JPP of safetys..??

FBomb
04-27-2013, 04:35 PM
Why do people expect the Giants to actually see any impact come out of him? He won't play at all the first year because of Coughlins rookie rule, he'll be turned into a LBer which isn't a need according to Reese in his second year and will be sitting behind the Dan Connors of the world.

No such "rookie rule" exists.

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 04:38 PM
Why do people expect the Giants to actually see any impact come out of him? He won't play at all the first year because of Coughlins rookie rule, he'll be turned into a LBer which isn't a need according to Reese in his second year and will be sitting behind the Dan Connors of the world.

Rookies play plenty under Coughlin.

Wilson - 125 snaps
Randle - 250 snaps
Hosley - 450 snaps
Kuhn - 170 snaps

If they are good and can contribute, they will play.

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:39 PM
Kam Chancellor is in the box safety, and Earl Thomas is there cover safety...

My bad you guys are right. Here's an article on Taylor via Pat Traina: http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/professional/football/cooper-taylor-brings-size-toughness-to-nfl-draft/article_d8b59dfc-ac7d-11e2-b3bb-0019bb30f31a.html

Interesting that his DC at Richmond was a former Giants assistant.

hugehomer
04-27-2013, 04:41 PM
Cant believe the whole league doesnt recognize the vast talents of Jordan Poyer

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:42 PM
Rookies play plenty under Coughlin.

Wilson - 125 snaps
Randle - 250 snaps
Hosley - 450 snaps
Kuhn - 170 snaps

If they are good and can contribute, they will play.

I've said this many times.. The reason they don't play is because obvious Vets in front of em who earned the right to be there..

nycsportzfan
04-27-2013, 04:43 PM
My bad you guys are right. Here's an article on Taylor via Pat Traina: http://www.timesdispatch.com/sports/professional/football/cooper-taylor-brings-size-toughness-to-nfl-draft/article_d8b59dfc-ac7d-11e2-b3bb-0019bb30f31a.html

Interesting that his DC at Richmond was a former Giants assistant. yes it is intersting..

GTGiantsFan
04-27-2013, 04:44 PM
Only reason they played is because of injury, Hosley got burnt plenty I think his snaps drop. Randle and Wilson should of played wayyyyy more 125 snaps for a 1st round pick?

DVision
04-27-2013, 04:45 PM
yes it is intersting..

If you notice he was with the Giants, Browns, and Pats. Was he part of Belicheck's staff?

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 04:46 PM
Only reason they played is because of injury, Hosley got burnt plenty I think his snaps drop. Randle and Wilson should of played wayyyyy more 125 snaps for a 1st round pick?

The point is they played. If they trusted Wilson pass blocking, and Randle picked up the O faster they would have played more.

NYGfanSTRICK
04-27-2013, 04:49 PM
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Richmond-Safety-Cooper-Taylor-Highlights/cc7a3baa-83e0-4098-8031-ee2071ea2f6b

H (http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Richmond-Safety-Cooper-Taylor-Highlights/cc7a3baa-83e0-4098-8031-ee2071ea2f6b)ere is a few plays of him from Richmond and not at GT

GTGiantsFan
04-27-2013, 04:53 PM
The point is they played. If they trusted Wilson pass blocking, and Randle picked up the O faster they would have played more. Wilson played because Bradshaw was on his last ankle, Randle only played because Nicks was toast. Nothing to do with picking up the offense.

FBomb
04-27-2013, 04:55 PM
The Coughlin "rookie rule" is purely fantasy.

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 04:56 PM
Wilson played because Bradshaw was on his last ankle, Randle only played because Nicks was toast. Nothing to do with picking up the offense.

Wilson played in the first game of the year. Randle played well before Nicks was hurt. They just had limited packages because they didnt know the entire offense

Carter.525
04-27-2013, 05:23 PM
http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Richmond-Safety-Cooper-Taylor-Highlights/cc7a3baa-83e0-4098-8031-ee2071ea2f6bH (http://www.giants.com/media-vault/videos/Richmond-Safety-Cooper-Taylor-Highlights/cc7a3baa-83e0-4098-8031-ee2071ea2f6b)ere is a few plays of him from Richmond and not at GTdam.. fast

blu_buddha
04-27-2013, 05:34 PM
We just drafted the JPP of safeties

BlessedinBlue22
04-27-2013, 06:24 PM
we drafted a project at safety..will most likely have to prove himself of special teams. Meanwhile a proven saftety who played very well had an INT at the senior bowl against some of the better players in college football, gets overlooked till late 6th..another Alford Morris type pick int he 6th for Washington

drewz
04-27-2013, 06:48 PM
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3qKc5C1tM" target="_blank">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3qKc5C1tM

E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf3qKc5C1tM)ast West shrine game for those who want check out Cooper Taylor in action

slipknottin
04-27-2013, 06:55 PM
we drafted a project at safety..will most likely have to prove himself of special teams. Meanwhile a proven saftety who played very well had an INT at the senior bowl against some of the better players in college football, gets overlooked till late 6th..another Alford Morris type pick int he 6th for Washington

Taylor was very good at the Shrine game.

G-Men4Supes
04-27-2013, 07:02 PM
He was apparently measured at 6' 4 3/4'' at his pro day. He's tall, fast, strong. Who knows, he might stick.

04/08/13 - 2013 Richmond Pro Day: Scouts brave the cold at Richmond Pro Day...The weather was crisp - about 35 degrees - for Richmond’s outdoor pro day on March 19. Scouts from 20 NFL teams braved the cold to watch seven players work out. Nobody there that had gone to combine, but there were three players of note: Cooper Taylor S (6-4”, 228 pounds) - Taylor ran 4.58 and 4.49, did 36” in the vertical, 10-foot-7 in the broad jump, 4.29 in the short-shuttle, 6.96 in the three-cone and 23 reps on the bench press. The coaches worked Taylor out as a linebacker. His official position will be strong safety, but he’s one of those guys who could possibly bulk up and play outside linebacker. Reminiscent of Kam Chancellor of the Seattle Seahawks. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com