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nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 03:17 PM
Not being able to choose are draft if u were, what teams do u think did the best?


I had the Packers on my list last yr, and i got them on my list again this yr...
PACKERSThe packers had RB issues and were able to add not only Eddie Lacy, but also Jonathan Franklin as well.. Thats a great combanation of power and speed...

They also added Datone Jones at 26 which was solid value, and will help against the read option, and bolster there dline.

They got a versatile defender in Micah Hyde late in the 5th as well as another big body for the Dline in Josh Boyd after that, both great later rd picks and even and still managed to get not one but 2 nice Oline pieces in David Bakihatri and J.C Tretter.. Ted Thompson really knows what hes doing...

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49ERSThe 49ers continue to impress me with there work , and that teams roster is so talented now, its kinda scary.. Albeit, i thought a tad of a reach for Eric Reid, it was a need after losing Dashon Goldson to FA'cy, and they found tremendous value with Tank Carradine, Marcus Lattimore, and WR Quinton Patton.. I loved Vance McDonald as a prospect, and hes a perfect fit to take over for recently departed Delanie Walker...

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RAVENS

Again, Ozzie Newsome does wonders, even when his team wins the SB.. The team loses Ed Reed, but gains Huff in FA'cy and Matt Elam in the draft.. Amazing! They lose Ray Lewis and Ellerbe, but he gets the versatile Arthur Brown, amazing! They get a great fit in Brandon Williams in RD3 for that Dline, as Spears and Canty aren't long term answers, and grabs another pass rusher with some value in John Simon outta ohio st , and gets value picks later on like Ricky Wagner, Arron Mellette and Marc Anthony.. Ozzie has this GM thing down to a science...


There were other teams i really liked as well, but these teams stuck out to me, and the crazy part is, they all made the postseson last yr all ready and 2 were represented in the SB...

King Sully
04-29-2013, 03:23 PM
Both the teams you mentioned but I also liked the cardinals draft

NYGfanSTRICK
04-29-2013, 03:41 PM
I think the Rams killed the draft honestly! I think they did awesome.

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 03:46 PM
I think the Rams killed the draft honestly! I think they did awesome. Ya, to be honest, the NFC WEST in general did extremely well, and that division only got stronger... The cards will still need a QB, and had a great chance to draft a QB to groom behind Carson Palmer who is injury prone, but didn't, would be my only gripe.. I actually like Earl Watford alot though, despite the fact they reached a bit, he can really move well for a guard and get blocks on the 2nd level.. That NFC WEST is looking insane..


As for the Rams, they've got a team i think can contend in that division, as they all ready gave the 9ers a heap of trouble last yr, and now u add the kinda speed that Ogletree and Austin can bring to both sides of the ball, to go along with Jared Cook at TE, and Brian Quick and Chris Givens.. THey added Jake Long also in FA'cy, and now bolstered there interior with a nice versatile piece in Barrett Jones, and i love the value of a Brandon McGee at pick 149 to help at Corner, and Zac Stacy was a well liked sleeper by many on these boards, and should combine with RIchardson to form a nice backfield...

TheEnigma
04-29-2013, 03:49 PM
I like the Titans draft. Not a fan of interior linemen going in the top 10 but it makes sense for their team since they live through the run. Chance Warmack and Andy Levitre will make a great G combo. Justin Hunter was my top ranked WR so I'd say they got great 2nd round value. Wreh-Wilson will make a fine starter in a few years on that team and Schwenke could be the future at center.

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 03:57 PM
I also like what MIami was able to accomplish.. They got a top flight deep threat in Mike Wallace during the offseason, and then came away with a pass rusher opposite Cam Wake in Dion Jordan to help get to Tom Brady , and form a really formidable duo, and then the value of a Jamar Taylor was sensational at pick 54, and added even more CB depth with Will Davis after that, again thinking about those Pats and there high powered offense, and they needed a TE, so got Martellus Bennetts twin in Dion Sims fairly late, and yet another weapon for RYan Tannehill whos now got some guys to throw to, and a Mike Gillislee to challenge Lamar Miller and Daniel Thomas was a good idea, as they hope to find one starter capable player outta the 3.. The dolphins got better this offseason, no doubt about it.. THey did lose dansby however, but could possibly play Jelani Jenkins inside?

GTGiantsFan
04-29-2013, 04:02 PM
Eagles have had two solid drafts in a row.

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:02 PM
I like the Titans draft. Not a fan of interior linemen going in the top 10 but it makes sense for their team since they live through the run. Chance Warmack and Andy Levitre will make a great G combo. Justin Hunter was my top ranked WR so I'd say they got great 2nd round value. Wreh-Wilson will make a fine starter in a few years on that team and Schwenke could be the future at center. Agreed, the titans draft was also very good.. They really beefed up the interior of that Offensive line this offseason to help protect Locker as well as give Chris Johnson every chance to become what he once was, and the additon of Justin Hunter, should really light a fire under Kenny Britts rear, and now they have a true trio of WR's capable of challenging anyone elses 3, and there all fairly young, so they can grow with locker.. Also they added Delaine Walker in FA'cy, yet another capable pass catcher, and a Interior runner in Shonn Greene, which could be deadly with the additons of Levitre, Warmack, and Schwenke...

Also , they got 2 big and fast corners in Blidi Wreh and late rd sleeper Wooten, who is very good in his own right and could be a steal...Lavar Edwards is good depth behind injury prone Derrick Morgan, and should help against the run...

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:03 PM
I like the Titans draft. Not a fan of interior linemen going in the top 10 but it makes sense for their team since they live through the run. Chance Warmack and Andy Levitre will make a great G combo. Justin Hunter was my top ranked WR so I'd say they got great 2nd round value. Wreh-Wilson will make a fine starter in a few years on that team and Schwenke could be the future at center. By the way, Justin Hunter was also my top rated WR in this draft class..

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:06 PM
Eagles have had two solid drafts in a row. THe eagles do really well late in the drafts i feel.. Getting corner like Brandon Boykin and now Jordan Poyer makes me annoyed..lol Also, they got consensus sleeper Earl Wolff as well fairly late, and for us, a team that has very little at LB, we now have to contend with Zach Ertz as well as Brent Celek.. I think that might be just why we drafted Coop Taylor to be honest..

Lane Johnson is one of the most athletic OT's to ever come out in the draft, and watching JPP vs Johnson for yrs to come will be alot of fun... Gap Shooting Bennie Logan also has alot of upside, and i kinda liked him better then hankins, but we shall see..

BlueSanta
04-29-2013, 04:15 PM
Considering they lacked a 1st round pick, I thought the Redskins did a good job as well.


I would agree with those that said the NFC west did a good job. I loved the 49ers draft with the exception of what they did in the 1st round. Eric Reid isn't the problem, but rather trading up to grab him in the manner they did.

I liked the Steelers draft too.

Kruunch
04-29-2013, 04:23 PM
Cardinals - Cooper (OG), Minter (LB), Mathieu (CB), Okafor (OLB), Swope (WR) among others ... I think they got the most potential talent out of this draft. Cooper is a blue chipper (or thought to be), Minter was prospected as the highest rated ILB in the draft (although I like Brown better), Matthieu has a ton of upside (I think he flames out personally but ...), Okafor was one of the best ends in the draft (imo) and Swope is probably the biggest steal of the draft getting him in the 6th.

Vikings - Floyd, Rhodes and Patterson ... slam dunk (for them). All were areas of high need for them.

The single greatest pick / match to a team in my mind was ...

Packers - Datone Jones. Absolute perfect fit for that guy as a 3-4 DE.

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:26 PM
Considering they lacked a 1st round pick, I thought the Redskins did a good job as well.


I would agree with those that said the NFC west did a good job. I loved the 49ers draft with the exception of what they did in the 1st round. Eric Reid isn't the problem, but rather trading up to grab him in the manner they did.

I liked the Steelers draft too. Ya, i felt Eric Reids upside is the best of the bunch as far as the S's go, and the 9ers could afford to take a gamble on his upside, and if there right, boom... I remember earlier on in the yr, i thought Eric Reid was the best S in the country and a sure fire first rd pick, and Slip agreed, so its not that surprising to me, and if they only had a few picks, it'd of bothered me more, but they had such a heap of picks, that i understand trading up for em, because they believed in em so much...

I didn't love the steelers pick of Le'Veon Bell, thought that there were better backs to choose from, and also felt, they kinda have backs like him all ready on the roster , and they needed more of a Jonathan Franklin type back, or someone like that to go with there big bruiser Jonathan Dwyer and/or Ike Redman(not sure if these 2are back though?).. They do have Rainey to offset Bell's beefy hard running style though, but i just felt the element that Jon Franklin could of brought them would of fit very well with that of Redman or Dwyer..

Wheaton is a perfect replacemtent for Mike Wallace, and almost identical in what type of WR's they are... Terry Hawthorne is nice CB depth, and a guy i liked as well, and Shamarko Thomas is a nice hard hitting S to pair back there with Troy, and they needed depth after losing Mundy to us...

Jarvis Jones and Vince Williams are both agressive, physical players, in the mold of Steeler LB's...

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:29 PM
Cardinals - Cooper (OG), Minter (LB), Mathieu (CB), Okafor (OLB), Swope (WR) among others ... I think they got the most potential talent out of this draft. Cooper is a blue chipper (or thought to be), Minter was prospected as the highest rated ILB in the draft (although I like Brown better), Matthieu has a ton of upside (I think he flames out personally but ...), Okafor was one of the best ends in the draft (imo) and Swope is probably the biggest steal of the draft getting him in the 6th.

Vikings - Floyd, Rhodes and Patterson ... slam dunk (for them). All were areas of high need for them.

The single greatest pick / match to a team in my mind was ...

Packers - Datone Jones. Absolute perfect fit for that guy as a 3-4 DE.

Not to mention, the most impressive part of the pack draft is getting Jones, while also completely making over the weakest part of there team which was the RB positon, with Lacy and Franklin.. The packers were on my list last yr, as i thought Casey Hayward was a 1st rd pick, and the best Corner in the draft or pretty darn close, and they got em in the very late 2nd(steal), while also getting other great pieces... Ted Thompson is a genius, for real...

Kruunch
04-29-2013, 04:33 PM
Not to mention, the most impressive part of the pack draft is getting Jones, while also completely making over the weakest part of there team which was the RB positon, with Lacy and Franklin.. The packers were on my list last yr, as i thought Casey Hayward was a 1st rd pick, and the best Corner in the draft or pretty darn close, and they got em in the very late 2nd(steal), while also getting other great pieces... Ted Thompson is a genius, for real...

I agree about Lacy/Franklin ... it just seems like the Packers are where RBs go to die :D

Definitely a huge need for them. As was Bakthiari which I thought was a very good prospect for where they got him (considering the run on OL early). Micah Hyde (CB) also deserves a mention.

I mentioned Datone Jones specifically though, because I thought there were only a few systems that would match his particular style well and the Packers were top of my list for him. He'll end up being a true replacement for Cullen Jenkins and make BJ Raji shine again.

TAILGATIN'
04-29-2013, 04:34 PM
You said most of them but I was jealous of the Bears LB picks with Bostic and Greene. Add their Oline picks Kyle Long, Jordan Mills, and Cornelius Washington and I think we could have done awesome w those 5. Although we got some help at Oline, I'd glady trade 5 of our picks for those guys. I'm still in awe that in such a CB filled draft we held back on scooping one. Oh we'll, I ain't JR.

Carter.525
04-29-2013, 04:35 PM
I like the Cards draft.. and the Vikings

TAILGATIN'
04-29-2013, 04:36 PM
Cardinals - Cooper (OG), Minter (LB), Mathieu (CB), Okafor (OLB), Swope (WR) among others ... I think they got the most potential talent out of this draft. Cooper is a blue chipper (or thought to be), Minter was prospected as the highest rated ILB in the draft (although I like Brown better), Matthieu has a ton of upside (I think he flames out personally but ...), Okafor was one of the best ends in the draft (imo) and Swope is probably the biggest steal of the draft getting him in the 6th.

I couldn't agree more.. I like all those guys prob more than any other group. Stepfan Taylor's a beast too

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:38 PM
I agree about Lacy/Franklin ... it just seems like the Packers are where RBs go to die :D

Definitely a huge need for them. As was Bakthiari which I thought was a very good prospect for where they got him (considering the run on OL early). Micah Hyde (CB) also deserves a mention.

I mentioned Datone Jones specifically though, because I thought there were only a few systems that would match his particular style well and the Packers were top of my list for him. He'll end up being a true replacement for Cullen Jenkins and make BJ Raji shine again. Yup, i gave all those guys a mention in the first post of this thread.. The Packers were my fave draft , considering where they were picking, and the fact they are a playoff team all ready.. There almost the reason i started this thread...

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 04:42 PM
I like the Cards draft.. and the Vikings I'd like the vikings draft alot more if i thought Cordarelle Patterson was a better WR.. Just not a big fan of his, and he was on my bust list, along with Fluker and a couple others.. Not to mention, i never thought Shariff Floyd was as good as they were making em out to be, and mentioned this many times.. There getting a ton of credit for picking this kid because of his stock , but in reality, he was a 2nd-3rd rd prospect alot longer then he was a top 5prospect.. I thought he raised for the wrong reasons, and had alot less to do with his on field performance and more to do with his workouts and what not then anything else.. He is disruprtive, but there were quite a few disruptive DT's in this draft, and the eagles got Bennie Logan in RD3, and he fairs pretty closely to Floyd in my opinion...

BlueSanta
04-29-2013, 04:49 PM
Ya, i felt Eric Reids upside is the best of the bunch as far as the S's go, and the 9ers could afford to take a gamble on his upside, and if there right, boom... I remember earlier on in the yr, i thought Eric Reid was the best S in the country and a sure fire first rd pick, and Slip agreed, so its not that surprising to me, and if they only had a few picks, it'd of bothered me more, but they had such a heap of picks, that i understand trading up for em, because they believed in em so much...

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Well again, it isn't that I don't like Reid, and I completely understand the situation they 49ers were in( not enough roster spots or cap room to sign the amount of picks they had), and I think from the 2nd round on they had the best draft in the league. But, they did after all come into the draft with 13 picks and very few open roster spots, which is 1 reason they picked lattimore, so they could IR him next year and not lose a spot and potentially get a good player for the future. Possibly Carradine too.

But, I still don't like that 1st round move. Eric Reid is a good player but they traded too far up and they did it simply because they put themselves in a position of having too many picks for their current roster to allow.

The mistake I felt they made was 1 that good teams often do, and that is in the thinking that because things are good now, they always will be. They should have traded some of their current picks for future picks in 2014 or even 2015.

In the near future, some of their biggest name players are coming to contract and the picks they traded away this year because they had to, would have been useful in the coming years when their young stars are virtually unresignable because of cap constraints. Having a good roster is a death warrant for the future. When Colin Kaepernick comes to contract in 2015(same year as Aldon Smith), for example, they will have to cut half their roster to resign him. Aldon Smithwill be a consideration for the highest paid defensive player in the league, barring injury or some other blight. Pat Willis is locked up for some years, but they have a lot of guaranteed money tied up in his restructuring, same for Bowman.

They are going to have to draft extremely well in the next 5 or 6 years in order fill in around the players I list above. That is why I think the picks they used to trade up to grabe Ried this year would have been more wisely traded for future picks.

I absolutely love all the players they selected, but they simply do not have the roster space for them right now(11 picks), and in the future when those big name vets come to contract, they likely will have more space and needs and could have used those picks.

Its is going to be interesting to me to see who gets cut from this team when they trim the roster down because it is either going to be some decent players or some of the lovely draft picks they selected above.

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 05:12 PM
Ya, i agree that when a team is this loaded wit guys , especially when alot of those guys are all coming outta the same drafts and close to the same drafts, like Colin and Aldon, then ur gonna fall victim to almost drafting to well, and u have to pay big bucks to keep em, which means, u gotta let go of guys and let them walk of course.. If Eric Reid ends up being the enforcer they envisioned, its well worth it, but if not, then i agree, they'd of been better off trading for future picks, instead of just trading up in this draft.. They got some things riding on Reids shoulders, thats for sure...

BlueSabbath
04-29-2013, 05:21 PM
Not being able to choose are draft if u were, what teams do u think did the best?


I had the Packers on my list last yr, and i got them on my list again this yr...
PACKERSThe packers had RB issues and were able to add not only Eddie Lacy, but also Jonathan Franklin as well.. Thats a great combanation of power and speed...

They also added Datone Jones at 26 which was solid value, and will help against the read option, and bolster there dline.

They got a versatile defender in Micah Hyde late in the 5th as well as another big body for the Dline in Josh Boyd after that, both great later rd picks and even and still managed to get not one but 2 nice Oline pieces in David Bakihatri and J.C Tretter.. Ted Thompson really knows what hes doing...

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49ERSThe 49ers continue to impress me with there work , and that teams roster is so talented now, its kinda scary.. Albeit, i thought a tad of a reach for Eric Reid, it was a need after losing Dashon Goldson to FA'cy, and they found tremendous value with Tank Carradine, Marcus Lattimore, and WR Quinton Patton.. I loved Vance McDonald as a prospect, and hes a perfect fit to take over for recently departed Delanie Walker...

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RAVENS

Again, Ozzie Newsome does wonders, even when his team wins the SB.. The team loses Ed Reed, but gains Huff in FA'cy and Matt Elam in the draft.. Amazing! They lose Ray Lewis and Ellerbe, but he gets the versatile Arthur Brown, amazing! They get a great fit in Brandon Williams in RD3 for that Dline, as Spears and Canty aren't long term answers, and grabs another pass rusher with some value in John Simon outta ohio st , and gets value picks later on like Ricky Wagner, Arron Mellette and Marc Anthony.. Ozzie has this GM thing down to a science...


There were other teams i really liked as well, but these teams stuck out to me, and the crazy part is, they all made the postseson last yr all ready and 2 were represented in the SB...

I think the Ravens are about to field one of my favorite defenses of all time.

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 09:06 PM
I think the Ravens are about to field one of my favorite defenses of all time. I can't believe how well they just reload.. Lose Rey Lewis, plug in Arthur Brown, lose Ed Reed, plug in Elam and Huff, lose Kruger, plug in Canty...etc

BlessedinBlue22
04-29-2013, 09:20 PM
Arizona Cardinals and NY Jets

Arizona got the Mattheiu and Okafor, 3rd and 4th rounds.

Jets, Best CB in draft in Millner, Richardson, Geno Smith, Brian Winters and a HYnoski type FB

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 09:30 PM
Arizona Cardinals and NY Jets

Arizona got the Mattheiu and Okafor, 3rd and 4th rounds.

Jets, Best CB in draft in Millner, Richardson, Geno Smith, Brian Winters and a HYnoski type FB Ya, Geno Smith is a good get for the Jets, albeit i didn't like any of the QB's to much, but still, to get a QB with that kinda potential when all u have is Mark Sanchez is a smart and wiley pick.. Sheldon RIchardson could add to Coples and Wilkerson to form a intriguing Dline, and Brian Winters was one of my fave lineman in this entire draft.. Milliner will certainly ease the pain of losing Revis, and they also added a solid between the tackles RB recently with the trade for Chris Ivory...

nycsportzfan
04-29-2013, 09:34 PM
I think one of the steals of the draft was Detroit getting Larry Warford in RD3.. How in the world that caliber G goes in RD3 is beyond me.. THis is a guy i think is probowl talent and very close to the level Chance Warmack is..

BlueSanta
04-29-2013, 09:37 PM
Arizona Cardinals and NY Jets

Arizona got the Mattheiu and Okafor, 3rd and 4th rounds.

Jets, Best CB in draft in Millner, Richardson, Geno Smith, Brian Winters and a HYnoski type FB

I can give the cards a decent grade but I don't agree about the Jets.

That organization is a mess right now. They went into the draft having 5 QBs, many of which they will take a cap hit if they release. Then they draft another....


Its not that I don't like Geno Smith, its that they put themselves in a moron position going into the draft, a position so that the 1 position they needed most (QB) is the 1 position where drafting it would hurt the team.


I also think they wanted Austin and let themselves get jumped. That team needs serious help in the offensive weapon department. Austin fit their need to a tee. He made a college career of taking short passes and turning them into long TDs. They have(or had) a QB who only throws short passes. They also wanted to draft a guy who knew how to work with Austin in Smith(who they did get.) It is just baffling to me.

I am not advocating just drafting need, but cmon you cannot ignore it either.

BlessedinBlue22
04-29-2013, 09:54 PM
Ya, Geno Smith is a good get for the Jets, albeit i didn't like any of the QB's to much, but still, to get a QB with that kinda potential when all u have is Mark Sanchez is a smart and wiley pick.. Sheldon RIchardson could add to Coples and Wilkerson to form a intriguing Dline, and Brian Winters was one of my fave lineman in this entire draft.. Milliner will certainly ease the pain of losing Revis, and they also added a solid between the tackles RB recently with the trade for Chris Ivory...

Yup, Jets is looking good upfront, still got Mangold and replace Matt Slauson with Brian Winters. Could of picked up a replacement for Bart Scott, but i think they still have david harris in the middle. They certainly did better than the Giants imo as far as value and need. Chris Ivory is nicee, with Greene Joe McKnight and Bilal Powell. :cool:

BlessedinBlue22
04-29-2013, 10:00 PM
I can give the cards a decent grade but I don't agree about the Jets.

That organization is a mess right now. They went into the draft having 5 QBs, many of which they will take a cap hit if they release. Then they draft another....

Imo, they are in limbo with sanchez right now. Otherwise, why would they bring in Gerrard? I beleive he gets cut around the final cuts of preseason. It'sll be Gerard, Geno Smith and Greg McElroy. We still have Stephen hill, santonio holmes is a playmaker and Jordan White(guy was amazing in college). Thought Cordarelle Patterson was a good fit for the Jets with his size, over Austin. PR/KR, but minnesotta had an awesome 1st round too. Sometimes when u have a player that was to be the #1 pick in the draft in smith, it's kinda hard to pass up that kind of potential in an uncertain area for years with Sanchez at QB.


Its not that I don't like Geno Smith, its that they put themselves in a moron position going into the draft, a position so that the 1 position they needed most (QB) is the 1 position where drafting it would hurt the team.


I also think they wanted Austin and let themselves get jumped. That team needs serious help in the offensive weapon department. Austin fit their need to a tee. He made a college career of taking short passes and turning them into long TDs. They have(or had) a QB who only throws short passes. They also wanted to draft a guy who knew how to work with Austin in Smith(who they did get.) It is just baffling to me.

I am not advocating just drafting need, but cmon you cannot ignore it either.

Imo, the franchise is in limbo with sanchez right now. Otherwise, why would they bring in Gerrard? I beleive he gets cut around the final cuts of preseason. It'sll be Gerard, Geno Smith and Greg McElroy. We still have Stephen hill, santonio holmes is a playmaker and Jordan White(guy was amazing in college). Thought Cordarelle Patterson was a good fit for the Jets with his size, over Austin. PR/KR, but minnesotta had an awesome 1st round too. Sometimes when u have a player that was to be the #1 pick in the draft in smith, it's kinda hard to pass up that kind of potential in an uncertain area for years with Sanchez at QB.

nycsportzfan
04-30-2013, 08:23 AM
I can give the cards a decent grade but I don't agree about the Jets.

That organization is a mess right now. They went into the draft having 5 QBs, many of which they will take a cap hit if they release. Then they draft another....


Its not that I don't like Geno Smith, its that they put themselves in a moron position going into the draft, a position so that the 1 position they needed most (QB) is the 1 position where drafting it would hurt the team.


I also think they wanted Austin and let themselves get jumped. That team needs serious help in the offensive weapon department. Austin fit their need to a tee. He made a college career of taking short passes and turning them into long TDs. They have(or had) a QB who only throws short passes. They also wanted to draft a guy who knew how to work with Austin in Smith(who they did get.) It is just baffling to me.

I am not advocating just drafting need, but cmon you cannot ignore it either. The jets got guys that are easily cuttable at QB, theres no worries there.. Geno Smith is clearly the front runner for the future of the posiotn, nad Garrad is nothing but camp fodder, and maybe a stop gap if they finally decide to part ways with Sanchez, and want to give a vet a few starts to make sure Geno's ready, and McElroy is nothing but a clipholder, in the mold of Jason Garrett. THey got QB's, but its nothing they can't part ways with very easily.. Geno Smith was a great pickup.. To get a guy who was perdicted to go number 1overall about 2months ago, in the 2nd rd is pretty good, when ur situation at QB is what it is with the jets.. That DLINE looks beefy for the future with Wilkerson, Coples, and now Richardson, and Milliner is a nice replacement for Revis, and Brian Winters is a real stud, if u study his film, and i think will be alongtime starter in this league..

They got a potential number 1 WR for Geno to throw to all ready in Stephen Hill, and still have Santonio Holmes, and the decent Jeremey Kerley as well.. The problem is these recievers were never gonna suceed withouta QB who can truly sling it, which Geno Smith pretty much should be able to do.. A solid stable of backs, with Ivory being added as the power to go with additon of iMike Goodson and also Bilal Powell and Joe McKnight...

THey obviously still have pieces to add, but i think they are finally starting to make sensable moves and are unfoturtunetly on there way outta being the dysfunctional franchise they been.. They'll suck this yr, and next yr get a shot at a Marquise Lee or Austin Sefarian Jenkins, to bolster the offense as well..

Kruunch
04-30-2013, 09:13 AM
I'd like the vikings draft alot more if i thought Cordarelle Patterson was a better WR.. Just not a big fan of his, and he was on my bust list, along with Fluker and a couple others.. Not to mention, i never thought Shariff Floyd was as good as they were making em out to be, and mentioned this many times.. There getting a ton of credit for picking this kid because of his stock , but in reality, he was a 2nd-3rd rd prospect alot longer then he was a top 5prospect.. I thought he raised for the wrong reasons, and had alot less to do with his on field performance and more to do with his workouts and what not then anything else.. He is disruprtive, but there were quite a few disruptive DT's in this draft, and the eagles got Bennie Logan in RD3, and he fairs pretty closely to Floyd in my opinion...

I agree with your analysis about Floyd ... but pairing him up with Allen on the outside will give him all the chances in the world to shine.

Kruunch
04-30-2013, 09:16 AM
I can't believe how well they just reload.. Lose Rey Lewis, plug in Arthur Brown, lose Ed Reed, plug in Elam and Huff, lose Kruger, plug in Canty...etc

Mmmm I think you're selling Kruger and Reed short. The Ravens definitely improve with Brown (at least from a skills/youth standpoint). I don't think Elam ever comes close to replacing Ed Reed. That's not to say he won't be good ... but those are huge shoes to fill from a production standpoint. Huff might very well end up having Ousamgha disease.

And Canty will never EVER give you the production that Kruger gave the Ravens last year (imo).

nycsportzfan
04-30-2013, 09:50 AM
Mmmm I think you're selling Kruger and Reed short. The Ravens definitely improve with Brown (at least from a skills/youth standpoint). I don't think Elam ever comes close to replacing Ed Reed. That's not to say he won't be good ... but those are huge shoes to fill from a production standpoint. Huff might very well end up having Ousamgha disease.

And Canty will never EVER give you the production that Kruger gave the Ravens last year (imo). Well we are talking about Elam and Huff as compared to a very old Ed Reed.. I think most would take Matt Elam right now over another yr of Ed Reed.. He very well could retire after this yr, and the ravens could very well be set for the next 4-8 yrs at Safety with Elam , and adding Huff is a nic bonus.. U downplay Canty, but he simply wasen't a match as a down lineman, and is better suited on the outside, and always has been.. Reese has had very little luck trying to put guys outta scheme like Clint Sintim and Chris Canty both have proven.. Many worried about Chris Canty being inside when he came here, and also, he was injured often. Assumming he stays healthy, and is now back where he belongs, outside in a 3/4, he can be very good, and to put together a defense that everyone was crying they lost so much, so quickly, is about as impressive a task that has been done this offseason... Maybe there not quite as good on defense, but becuase of Ozzie Newsome they got a chance, and u didn't even mention Arthur Brown replacing Rey Lewis, yet another brilliant steal by Newsome, that sets them up for the forseeable future.. The guys a genius...

nycsportzfan
04-30-2013, 09:59 AM
I agree with your analysis about Floyd ... but pairing him up with Allen on the outside will give him all the chances in the world to shine.

of course, but that dosen't change the fact i didn't think Floyd was a top 5 guy and even really a 1st rder, and more on par with what he was before his big bowl game and the off season workouts, which was a 2nd-3rd rd prospect... I think a guy like Bennie Logan or Jordan Hill also could shine with allen outside..

nycsportzfan
04-30-2013, 10:06 AM
Mmmm I think you're selling Kruger and Reed short. The Ravens definitely improve with Brown (at least from a skills/youth standpoint). I don't think Elam ever comes close to replacing Ed Reed. That's not to say he won't be good ... but those are huge shoes to fill from a production standpoint. Huff might very well end up having Ousamgha disease.

And Canty will never EVER give you the production that Kruger gave the Ravens last year (imo). Not to mention, he added Elvis Dumervill as well... Dumervill, Elam, Huff, Canty, Spears, A.Brown, is not a bad way to retool after u lose a guy to retirement, and lose a guy to being way overpaid(Kruger and Ellerbe), and a guy on the cusp of retirement in Ed Reed...

GOBLUE24
04-30-2013, 10:27 AM
Cardinals draft was solid The first four picks are all playmakers at their position

Viking could have stopped after the first and thought it was a great draft. Patterson will fill in for Harvin and they got Jennings to go with. floyd and rhoades are studs

Jags to me hit a home run. they got the number 1 left tackle and a great Strong safety. Gratz a solid corner as well. Two big time players with the ball in hands in ace sanders and denard robinson. Allows this offense to open up a bit and will help MJD and Blackmon They also got Matt Scott as an undrafted QB who I like a ton. Has there been an undrafted qb to starter on day 1??

ryan12
04-30-2013, 10:27 AM
vikes and eagirls cards had great drafts

myles2424
04-30-2013, 02:55 PM
Idk about overall drafts, but....
Gotta luv carradne in the 2nd....jamar Taylor to the dolphins mid 2nd, Arthur brown to the ravens....Jonathan Franklin in the 4th....
I think the 49ers going lattimore at the end of the 4th could be one of those "why didn't we think about that" picks....
Rambo in the 6th, Jordan poyer in the 7th......Vikings with Rhodes & Floyd in the 20s

Mr.TRUEBLUE
10-12-2013, 08:03 AM
Rams need a whole lotta oline help , DB AND SKILL PLAYERS

nycsportzfan
10-12-2013, 09:08 AM
Rams need a whole lotta oline help , DB AND SKILL PLAYERS

Yes, this thread was started right after the 2013 draft though. But u are correct, the rams do need alot of help..