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BlueOldSchool
05-04-2013, 06:48 PM
As Eli goes into his 10th season and is the current active "iron man" (consecutive starts) in the NFL, I'd like to see him and Gilbride get it together a little better this season. They've had some nice games in the past but last season was tough to watch, especially down the stretch.

Your thoughts?

Rudyy
05-04-2013, 07:00 PM
I'd like him to take more sacks if it's absolutely necessary, rather than forcing the throw.

Gmen2005
05-04-2013, 07:01 PM
~4000 yards, 25 tds 12 ints. 63-65%

barran21
05-04-2013, 07:04 PM
Third Superbowl MVP...

penguinfarmer
05-04-2013, 07:05 PM
Third Superbowl MVP...

Third Superbowl MVP...

Third Superbowl MVP...

....................

Carter.525
05-04-2013, 07:06 PM
Third Superbowl MVP...bingo

brad
05-04-2013, 07:11 PM
I would like to see him improve inside the 20, not wear down (or whatever that was) later in the season, and cut down on the INTs.... Mostly, I would like to see him play like he did in the first half of last season, all season.

G-Men Surg.
05-04-2013, 07:26 PM
A little more muscle tone ? Just saying ....

ashleymarie
05-04-2013, 07:50 PM
Third Superbowl MVP...

Ditto

zimonami
05-04-2013, 07:56 PM
I'd like him to take more sacks if it's absolutely necessary, rather than forcing the throw.
I almost agree. I'm glad he avoids the sack, and less hits and wear and tear, but I want him to throw it out of bounds, rather than force an off balance dying duck off the wrong foot.

Roosevelt
05-04-2013, 08:15 PM
I'd like to see Eli outperform his paycheck.

thegreatone
05-04-2013, 08:26 PM
I almost agree. I'm glad he avoids the sack, and less hits and wear and tear, but I want him to throw it out of bounds, rather than force an off balance dying duck off the wrong foot.This. Just less mistakes is all I want

RoanokeFan
05-04-2013, 08:58 PM
Consistency

Harooni
05-04-2013, 08:59 PM
warm up pregame in tights

titwio
05-04-2013, 09:03 PM
I want to see him have a legit elite season. I'm talking around 4,500 yards, 38 TD's and around 67% completion with around only 6-7 Int's....on his way to leading the Giants to the SB of course.

It would just be nice to see him put up a season like that and quiet some the skeptics who I still debate with and who linger around.

RoanokeFan
05-04-2013, 09:05 PM
I want to see him have a legit elite season. I'm talking around 4,500 yards, 38 TD's and around 67% completion with around only 6-7 Int's....on his way to leading the Giants to the SB of course.

It would just be nice to see him put up a season like that and quiet some the skeptics who still linger around.

There will always be skeptics, no matter what he does.

titwio
05-04-2013, 09:08 PM
There will always be skeptics, no matter what he does.

Very true....him accomplishing this though will help aid some of my efforts of his defense.

PS: I'm exhausted. Eli defense is a tiring business.

nhpgiantsfan
05-04-2013, 09:10 PM
It's simple. Healthy Nicks + healthy Cruz = 2011 Eli.

RoanokeFan
05-04-2013, 09:13 PM
Very true....him accomplishing this though will help aid some of my efforts of his defense.

PS: I'm exhausted. Eli defense is a tiring business.

It's best to just understand some people are just here to go against the grain.

Carter.525
05-04-2013, 09:25 PM
I expect him to beat out Nassib..

RoanokeFan
05-04-2013, 09:26 PM
I expect him to beat out Nassib..

Now that's crawling out on a limb

Rudyy
05-04-2013, 09:27 PM
I expect him to beat out Nassib..He's not competing against him.

Harooni
05-04-2013, 09:32 PM
I want to see him have a legit elite season. I'm talking around 4,500 yards, 38 TD's and around 67% completion with around only 6-7 Int's....on his way to leading the Giants to the SB of course.

It would just be nice to see him put up a season like that and quiet some the skeptics who I still debate with and who linger around. there wouldnt be many skeptics if he put up seasons like that, there is a reason for them.

titwio
05-04-2013, 09:41 PM
there wouldnt be many skeptics if he put up seasons like that, there is a reason for them.

Also true which is why I want to see him accomplish it despite not playing in a dink and dunk offense like Brees and Brady do. I mean most of that does go unnoticed to the skeptics who vilify him for not while he plays in one of the most difficult offensive schemes in the NFL that relies a lot on the big play.

Him doing it with Gildbride's scheme would be an accomplishment in itself.

Harooni
05-04-2013, 09:46 PM
Id like to see Eli just control his chucking a bit. he is a chucker like george constanza

mercurio
05-04-2013, 10:03 PM
Improve his accuracy. Throw a tighter spiral.

Diamondring
05-04-2013, 10:06 PM
Run more when he has the chance even if it is for two yards. Learn how to slide while keep ball in hand.

zimonami
05-04-2013, 11:11 PM
Run more when he has the chance even if it is for two yards. Learn how to slide while keep ball in hand.
lol, Diamond... this made me chuckle... he's been playing QB since he was 10, 11? At this stage I don't see him finally learning how to slide and hold onto the ball. Yeah, preseason... "QB practice at 10 AM - sliding".
It's so funny to see him run annd at the moment of truth he has no instincts whether or not to slide, when to slide, or to run until he's tackled.
Actuallly, it's not funny... it's heart attack time. I'd rather he never run.
Then there are thoose moments when insanity grips him and he decides it's time for a left handed pass.
I love Eli... but every once in a while he has to remind us that he can be dim.

giantsfan420
05-04-2013, 11:47 PM
4200, 31 tds, 13 ints 64 completion %, SB MVP 3

edit: if eli hits 3000 yds and 20 tds he will have done so for 9 straight years. I know he was 1 of 5 to do it like 6 or 7 yrs in a row. I wonder how many other QBs have been as consistent for as long a period, and still get called for a supposed consistency issue.

BlueOldSchool
05-04-2013, 11:54 PM
Run more when he has the chance even if it is for two yards. Learn how to slide while keep ball in hand.
Gotta agree with you.

Broadway Blue
05-05-2013, 02:16 AM
Less turnovers and be more consistent

gmen46
05-05-2013, 03:00 AM
Less turnovers and be more consistent

This past season he had the second fewest turnovers of his 8 year career as a full time starter (15 ints and 1 lost fumble), he had his third fewest interceptions, yet "less turnovers" has been the request of several posters in this thread?

He was without doubt inconsistent in 2012 (had his career high in yards in a single game in Sept, then later in the season had 3 consecutive games without a passing TD and had a few consecutive games with less than 200 yards around the same time period). But the last 2 seasons Eli has significantly reduced his turnovers. His own turnovers in 2012 was not the problem.

Rat_bastich
05-05-2013, 03:33 AM
Consistency.

penguinfarmer
05-05-2013, 05:53 AM
Another SNL appearance with better writers and a Nassib chuck into the ice tub.

Antwuan
05-06-2013, 02:39 AM
Consistency!

ebick
05-06-2013, 09:58 AM
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/eli-holding-up-trophy.jpg?w=250

Flip Empty
05-06-2013, 10:05 AM
Some more amusing beach pics wouldn't go amiss.

EliDaMANning
05-06-2013, 10:07 AM
A 3rd SB MVP which will cement him alongside the greats.

GameTime
05-06-2013, 10:12 AM
A 3rd SB MVP which will cement him alongside the greats.

why bother to even put the last part of the sentence in......

you should stop at a 3rd SB win and MVP....nuff said. This way you dont sound like a unabashed homer.....oh wait....:)

Diamondring
05-06-2013, 10:14 AM
More screens to the backs. How many Eli threw to them?

Flip Empty
05-06-2013, 10:15 AM
More screens to the backs. How many Eli threw to them?
That's more of a Gilbride issue than an Eli issue.

That said, Eli isn't too good at throwing them... maybe that's why they don't use them very often.

EliDaMANning
05-06-2013, 10:15 AM
why bother to even put the last part of the sentence in......

you should stop at a 3rd SB win and MVP....nuff said. This way you dont sound like a unabashed homer.....oh wait....:)Not sure if being called a homer is a compliment or not? I am a Giants fan afterall...

GameTime
05-06-2013, 10:16 AM
More screens to the backs. How many Eli threw to them?
more of that has to do with the Oline not knowing or able to block for screens......
Giants have had issues with that the last bunch of years IMO....

GameTime
05-06-2013, 10:16 AM
Not sure if being called a homer is a compliment or not? I am a Giants fan afterall...
you're a Giants fan for sure......

EliDaMANning
05-06-2013, 10:18 AM
Screen plays take a second or two to develop. The Giants are the only team that don't have that type of time to implement them into the playbook.

GameTime
05-06-2013, 10:25 AM
Screen plays take a second or two to develop. The Giants are the only team that don't have that type of time to implement them into the playbook.
that right there tells me its personell issue and nothing else....

flashnando
05-06-2013, 10:29 AM
As Eli goes into his 10th season and is the current active "iron man" (consecutive starts) in the NFL, I'd like to see him and Gilbride get it together a little better this season. They've had some nice games in the past but last season was tough to watch, especially down the stretch.

Your thoughts?

I want to see him bring home another ring.

Diamondring
05-06-2013, 10:30 AM
more of that has to do with the Oline not knowing or able to block for screens......
Giants have had issues with that the last bunch of years IMO....There is no excuse. In a high scoring balance attack offensive scheem, the screens needs to be done. They better learn if they don't know how.

TheAnalyst
05-06-2013, 10:32 AM
More scruff.

He needs to not chuck and duck as much, reduce the number of interceptions please Eli.

Take the guy underneath for 5 yards rather then the WR deep while he is double covered.

Diamondring
05-06-2013, 11:01 AM
That's more of a Gilbride issue than an Eli issue.

That said, Eli isn't too good at throwing them... maybe that's why they don't use them very often.Almost every pass play can become a screen. If the back stays in and block most of the time, he can come out of it and the ball can be thrown to him. The screen doesn't even have to be called either and Eli could have it as a special play.

There are zone even in man press coverages.

tcseacliff
05-06-2013, 03:41 PM
want to see Eli throwing a bomb to # 80!

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhSzpjXevnZaWq1EIIGPM0naTDHPmZU qDY4eIAYBT0YX0LD83zDA

RoanokeFan
05-06-2013, 03:42 PM
want to see Eli throwing a bomb to # 80!

Just one?

tcseacliff
05-06-2013, 03:45 PM
Just one?

thanks for the coreection, er...many bombs to #80! WHEW! coulda jinxed everything! LOL!

RoanokeFan
05-06-2013, 03:45 PM
thanks for the coreection, er...many bombs to #80! WHEW! coulda jinxed everything! LOL!

There ya go

tcseacliff
05-06-2013, 03:51 PM
another thing I want to see Eli doing is signing his name on the wall at Cowboys stadium after we beat them AGAIN ! . he will borrow a marker from Jerry! we will all rejoice!

talbot
05-06-2013, 04:58 PM
One big issue I have is forcing the mid-deep throw in double coverage hoping for the receiver to make a play 90% of the time. Look, Nicks and Cruz are ballers (even Randle has shown baller ability), but those picks are frustrating. Dump it off for 3-4 yards, it's not going to hurt anyone.

slipknottin
05-06-2013, 05:14 PM
I would love for Eli to learn some magic, and have lions and tigers appear at random during games.

RoanokeFan
05-06-2013, 05:16 PM
I would love for Eli to learn some magic, and have lions and tigers appear at random during games.

You can have one or the other, not both OH MY

B&RWarrior
05-06-2013, 08:27 PM
I want to see him have a legit elite season. I'm talking around 4,500 yards, 38 TD's and around 67% completion with around only 6-7 Int's....on his way to leading the Giants to the SB of course.

It would just be nice to see him put up a season like that and quiet some the skeptics who I still debate with and who linger around.

Your asking for a level of performance he's never exhibited in his 9 year career. It makes me think the people you deem skeptics have a more accurate opinion of Eli than you.

B&RWarrior
05-06-2013, 08:29 PM
I want to see Eli throw for about 3500 yards and our running game much improved. I think the added balance is better for our overall offense and consistent performance.

Flip Empty
05-06-2013, 08:37 PM
Your asking for a level of performance he's never exhibited in his 9 year career.
Yeah, he is what he is. He isn't going to turn into Aaron Rodgers overnight.

NYG 5
05-06-2013, 08:41 PM
better deep ball accuracy. he's terrible deep in the seams. he's perfect in that 15-25 yard sideline range, but missed a lot of opportunities deep this year

titwio
05-06-2013, 11:31 PM
Your asking for a level of performance he's never exhibited in his 9 year career. It makes me think the people you deem skeptics have a more accurate opinion of Eli than you.

They say Eli is not a good QB....does that sound accurate to you? Of course you knew that because you already assumed you knew "exactly" what I was debating with the "skeptics" huh Mrs.Cleo?

I obviously am way off on my opinion of Eli....I mean, I must be right?

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 05:24 AM
They say Eli is not a good QB....does that sound accurate to you? Of course you knew that because you already assumed you knew "exactly" what I was debating with the "skeptics" huh Mrs.Cleo?

I obviously am way off on my opinion of Eli....I mean, I must be right?

Who said "Eli is not a good QB"? Eli is not perfect as no player is.

GameTime
05-07-2013, 08:33 AM
I would like to see form Eli:

1....no left handed throws
2....maybe he can run for 3 yards instead of throwing 40 yards on 3 rd and 3.
3.... less picks
4....get rid of the delay of game penalties!! They even get them AFTER a TIME OUT for crikies sake!!!!!

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 09:08 AM
I would like to see form Eli:

1....no left handed throws
2....maybe he can run for 3 yards instead of throwing 40 yards on 3 rd and 3.
3.... less picks
4....get rid of the delay of game penalties!! They even get them AFTER a TIME OUT for crikies sake!!!!!

"Crikies"? LMAO A new North Jersey term?

GameTime
05-07-2013, 11:46 AM
"Crikies"? LMAO A new North Jersey term?
from down under....lol
thats from the Croc Hunter

Flip Empty
05-07-2013, 11:52 AM
2....maybe he can run for 3 yards instead of throwing 40 yards on 3 rd and 3.
Please no. Eli trying to run is a bigger hazard than him forcing the ball down the field.

Diamondring
05-07-2013, 11:56 AM
Please no. Eli trying to run is a bigger hazard than him forcing the ball down the field.No it is not.

GameTime
05-07-2013, 11:58 AM
Please no. Eli trying to run is a bigger hazard than him forcing the ball down the field.

in the past but I think now he can handle it....without fumbling or looking like he has two left feet.....

Flip Empty
05-07-2013, 12:14 PM
in the past but I think now he can handle it....without fumbling or looking like he has two left feet.....
He tried to truck a defender with his throwing shoulder last season...

Rudyy
05-07-2013, 12:15 PM
He tried to truck a defender with his throwing shoulder last season...And nothing happened lol.

Flip Empty
05-07-2013, 12:18 PM
And nothing happened lol.
I thought it was hilarious but that was reckless as hell.

Rudyy
05-07-2013, 12:19 PM
I thought it was hilarious but that was reckless as hell.I wouldn't call it reckless, just a little nudge.

Flip Empty
05-07-2013, 12:23 PM
I wouldn't call it reckless, just a little nudge.
He could easily have hurt himself. He needs to learn how to perform flying kicks like Brady.

giantscolombia
05-07-2013, 12:24 PM
A back-flip

giantscolombia
05-07-2013, 12:27 PM
lol, Diamond... this made me chuckle... he's been playing QB since he was 10, 11? At this stage I don't see him finally learning how to slide and hold onto the ball. Yeah, preseason... "QB practice at 10 AM - sliding".
It's so funny to see him run annd at the moment of truth he has no instincts whether or not to slide, when to slide, or to run until he's tackled.
Actuallly, it's not funny... it's heart attack time. I'd rather he never run.
Then there are thoose moments when insanity grips him and he decides it's time for a left handed pass.
I love Eli... but every once in a while he has to remind us that he can be dim.

Or when he lowered his shoulder on that Packers DB.
hahaha that was THE most epic moment of an Eli Manning run.

Rudyy
05-07-2013, 12:29 PM
He could easily have hurt himself. He needs to learn how to perform flying kicks like Brady.Ok, I would laugh so hard if he did anything like that.

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 12:31 PM
Please no. Eli trying to run is a bigger hazard than him forcing the ball down the field.

+1

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 12:33 PM
I wouldn't call it reckless, just a little nudge.

For a pocket passer, it was a bit reckless. He tries to win all by himslef when he does that. What would we be saying if he tore his rotator cuff?

Rudyy
05-07-2013, 12:35 PM
For a pocket passer, it was a bit reckless. He tries to win all by himslef when he does that. What would we be saying if he tore his rotator cuff?That wasn't reckless, you're acting like he threw his entire body at Tramon Williams lol, it was a little nudge. Big deal. I'm sure Eli knows his body and his strength more than we do.

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 12:36 PM
That wasn't reckless, you're acting like he threw his entire body at Tramon Williams lol, it was a little nudge. Big deal. I'm sure Eli knows his body and his strength more than we do.

Freak things happen. It's not that he did it, it's that he thinks to do it that worries me.

Rudyy
05-07-2013, 12:37 PM
Freak things happenWell it didn't happen.

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 12:37 PM
Well it didn't happen.

And it never will, I'm sure

giantscolombia
05-07-2013, 12:38 PM
That wasn't reckless, you're acting like he threw his entire body at Tramon Williams lol, it was a little nudge. Big deal. I'm sure Eli knows his body and his strength more than we do.

Tramon Williams probably weighs less than Eli... I don't see a problem with lowering the boom on that little kid.

titwio
05-07-2013, 12:39 PM
Who said "Eli is not a good QB"? Eli is not perfect as no player is.

Some of the "skeptics" who I've debated with that according to B&RWarrior have a more accurate opinion of him than I do.

All I did was post what I'd like to see Eli accomplish in a season, which by the way is not a stretch by the imagination since he's already passed for more yards and 30 TD's and his play has steadily improved from season to season (minus the previous), suddenly comes across as me not being a knowlegdeable fan and holding an inaccurate opinion of the guy.

RoanokeFan
05-07-2013, 12:42 PM
Some of the "skeptics" who I've debated with that according to B&RWarrior have a more accurate opinion of him than I do.

All I did was post what I'd like to see Eli accomplish in a season, which by the way is not a stretch by the imagination since he's already passed for more yards and 30 TD's and his play has steadily improved from season to season (minus the previous), suddenly comes across as me not being a knowlegdeable fan and holding an inaccurate opinion of the guy.

Eh, shrug them off. None of us have the corner on brains around here.

Flip Empty
05-07-2013, 12:56 PM
It's not that he did it, it's that he thinks to do it that worries me.
Same for me. It's no different to him diving instead of sliding or deciding to throw with his left arm. He's trying to make a play that isn't there.