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EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 08:13 PM
I think Eli throws for over 5,500 and breaks Drew Brees' record this year with a healthy Nicks. We will have Nicks, Cruz, Wilson, and Meyer as weapons for Eli to throw to and he will absolutely tear **** up. I also predict that he will throw for over 40 touchdowns as well. People are too concerned with big brother, Brady and Rodgers. All I got to say is don't sleep on Eli this year.

SimmsandLT
05-20-2013, 08:21 PM
I think Eli throws for over 5,500 and breaks Drew Brees' record this year with a healthy Nicks. We will have Nicks, Cruz, Wilson, and Meyer as weapons for Eli to throw to and he will absolutely tear **** up. I also predict that he will throw for over 40 touchdowns as well. People are too concerned with big brother, Brady and Rodgers. All I got to say is don't sleep on Eli this year.

Only on Madden will this happen because Coughlin plans on running much more.

Astorian
05-20-2013, 08:28 PM
Only on Madden will this happen because Coughlin plans on running much more.That's good news to me, if true. How do you reach that conclusion?

fizzlesticks
05-20-2013, 08:31 PM
That's good news to me, if true. How do you reach that conclusion?

Because TC has always been a run first guy and with new meat on the Oline and a young RB, they might actually have a run game this year.

RoanokeFan
05-20-2013, 08:39 PM
That's good news to me, if true. How do you reach that conclusion?

Having last year's # 1 pick with a year under his belt and Brown who was a very welcome surprise should give us a better running game behind a hopefully slightly improved OLine.

GameTime
05-20-2013, 08:48 PM
who cares....and he doesnt need to.....

RoanokeFan
05-20-2013, 08:50 PM
who cares....and he doesnt need to.....

Someone cares :popcorn:

GameTime
05-20-2013, 08:52 PM
Someone cares :popcorn:

yeah...I see thread like this and I think of a punk kid wanting Eli to break records instead of just playing winning football.....

Flip Empty
05-20-2013, 08:52 PM
Because TC has always been a run first guy and with new meat on the Oline and a young RB, they might actually have a run game this year.
14th in total yards (1862); 7th in YPC (4.6); 5th in total touchdowns (18); 14th in YPG (116.4). The Giants had a decent run game last season.

And to answer the question - no, I don't think he'll throw for that many yards. I don't think any quarterback will.

RoanokeFan
05-20-2013, 08:53 PM
yeah...I see thread like this and I think of a punk kid wanting Eli to break records instead of just playing winning football.....

Winning football brings records, or is it CDs and DVDs?

GameTime
05-20-2013, 08:56 PM
Winning football brings records, or is it CDs and DVDs?

sometimes it does.....but I want to see Eli and the NYGs play smart winning football records or not.....
I know you do too.....

RoanokeFan
05-20-2013, 08:57 PM
sometimes it does.....but I want to see Eli and the NYGs play smart winning football records or not.....
I know you do too.....

CONSISTENCY

GameTime
05-20-2013, 09:01 PM
CONSISTENCY

yeah.....lets see a record for consistency....:)

fizzlesticks
05-20-2013, 09:04 PM
14th in total yards (1862); 7th in YPC (4.6); 5th in total touchdowns (18); 14th in YPG (116.4). The Giants had a decent run game last season.

Sorry, I didn't realize being in the top 50% was good enough.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 09:15 PM
Brown has never made it through an entire season since he's been a Giant, what makes everyone think he will now? The success of our offense(and team) will rely on the performance of Eli and our receivers. Wilson is unproven, Cruz and Nicks have already proven that they can break 1,000 yards and have done it multiple times. On defense, our linebackers are complete trash, our defensive line isn't great outside of JPP and Linval. Prince is the only one worth his salt in the secondary. You all better hope Eli puts up big numbers or we won't break .500 this season.

RoanokeFan
05-20-2013, 09:17 PM
Brown has never made it through an entire season since he's been a Giant, what makes everyone think he will now? The success of our offense(and team) will rely on the performance of Eli and our receivers. Wilson is unproven, Cruz and Nicks have already proven that they can break 1,000 yards and have done it multiple times. On defense, our linebackers are complete trash, our defensive line isn't great outside of JPP and Linval. Prince is the only one worth his salt in the secondary. You all better hope Eli puts up big numbers or we won't break .500 this season.

Nicks has never put in a full season as a Giant either. Do you expect him to this season?

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 09:24 PM
Nicks has never put in a full season as a Giant either. Do you expect him to this season?

Nicks has, and can again put up over 1,000 yards in his usual 14 games. There is a huge difference between missing an avg of 1-2 games a season like Nicks usually does and missing entire seasons like Brown routinely does. The most games Brown has ever played in a season is 10, the most Nicks has missed in a season is 3. We need Eli to step up this year, and he will.

penguinfarmer
05-20-2013, 09:26 PM
I hope not. Inflated numbers like that means the run game is beyond inadequate.

Roosevelt
05-20-2013, 09:27 PM
I think Eli throws for over 5,500 and breaks Drew Brees' record this year with a healthy Nicks. We will have Nicks, Cruz, Wilson, and Meyer as weapons for Eli to throw to and he will absolutely tear **** up. I also predict that he will throw for over 40 touchdowns as well. People are too concerned with big brother, Brady and Rodgers. All I got to say is don't sleep on Eli this year.

Wrong. I say 6,500 yards, 58 TD's 2 INT's, 75% completion percentage, and he'll rush for 500 yards and 6 TD's. Book it.

nhpgiantsfan
05-20-2013, 09:29 PM
The numbers predicted by the OP are obviously a stretch, but one thing is true. This team goes as far as Eli takes it. We certainly aren't gonna ride the backs of our running game and defense to the playoffs.

RoanokeFan
05-20-2013, 09:30 PM
Nicks has, and can again put up over 1,000 yards in his usual 14 games. There is a huge difference between missing an avg of 1-2 games a season like Nicks usually does and missing entire seasons like Brown routinely does. The most games Brown has ever played in a season is 10, the most Nicks has missed in a season is 3. We need Eli to step up this year, and he will.

Nicks has never played a full season. That's the issue you brought up with Brown. Why be so negative? How about we wait to see how they all play?

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 09:36 PM
Nicks has never played a full season. That's the issue you brought up with Brown. Why be so negative? How about we wait to see how they all play?

I'm not being negative, I am going by the numbers. Do I hope Brown can play a full season? Of course I do, but judging by what has happened in the past, that will most likely not happen. Nicks has a better chance of playing a full season though based on the minimal time he has lost, plus the guy always shows up in the playoffs as well. I really don't think what I am saying is far fetched if we are to go deep in to the playoffs next year.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 09:43 PM
Wrong. I say 6,500 yards, 58 TD's 2 INT's, 75% completion percentage, and he'll rush for 500 yards and 6 TD's. Book it.

Do you not think that we will make it to the playoffs this year? If you do, how so? Our running game is pretty bad, and so is our defense. If its not on the backs of Eli and the receivers, than who will take us to the promised land?

penguinfarmer
05-20-2013, 09:46 PM
The fact they just spent the last two first rounders on a RB and RT, you have to believe they don't want to completely leave it on Eli's shoulders.

fansince69
05-20-2013, 09:47 PM
Do you not think that we will make it to the playoffs this year? If you do, how so? Our running game is pretty bad, and so is our defense. If its not on the backs of Eli and the receivers, than who will take us to the promised land?if you think that the only way we make it to the playoffs is if Eli throws for 5500 yds...we wont be watching football in January...

Flip Empty
05-20-2013, 09:49 PM
Sorry, I didn't realize being in the top 50% was good enough.
Sorry, you said they didn't have one last season. Incorrect.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 09:51 PM
He already has the record for most yards in a single postseason; that is more important anyways even if he doesn't get 5000+ in the regular season

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 09:53 PM
I think a more balanced attack of offense suits us much better, and will benefit us in the long run.

Roosevelt
05-20-2013, 09:59 PM
Do you not think that we will make it to the playoffs this year? If you do, how so? Our running game is pretty bad, and so is our defense. If its not on the backs of Eli and the receivers, than who will take us to the promised land?

I have no idea what this team will do, and that includes Eli Manning.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 10:03 PM
I have no idea what this team will do, and that includes Eli Manning.

Thanks for the input. Why don't you share your OPINION on what MAY happen to take us to the playoffs?

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 10:04 PM
He already has the record for most yards in a single postseason; that is more important anyways even if he doesn't get 5000+ in the regular season

That's true, and the 3rd ring next season will be even more important.

Roosevelt
05-20-2013, 10:14 PM
Thanks for the input. Why don't you share your OPINION on what MAY happen to take us to the playoffs?

The one thing we know about TC & Eli despite our success is that we never know who's showing up on Sunday. Anything can happen with this team.

gumby74
05-20-2013, 10:21 PM
Where are the rest of the 2012/2013'er Eli jokers? Is your species territorial? It seems like when a thread gets started by one of your kind, everyone else stays away. Eli pheromone perhaps?

Roosevelt
05-20-2013, 10:25 PM
Where are the rest of the 2012/2013'er Eli jokers? Is your species territorial? It seems like when a thread gets started by one of your kind, everyone else stays away. Eli pheromone perhaps?

Maybe they all got banned?

Flip Empty
05-20-2013, 10:38 PM
Do you realise how many passing attempts Eli would need to make in order to crack 5500?

To put it in context, Matthew Stafford threw the ball 727 times last season (the all-time record) yet still failed to break 5000 yards. Meanwhile Drew Brees made 670 attempts and also failed to top 5000 yards.

It would not be easy at all.

talbot
05-20-2013, 10:44 PM
I would take a higher completion percentage and less picks over that many more yards and touchdowns.

fansince69
05-20-2013, 10:45 PM
Do you realise how many passing attempts Eli would need to make in order to crack 5500?

To put it in context, Matthew Stafford threw the ball 727 times last season (the all-time record) yet still failed to break 5000 yards. Meanwhile Drew Brees made 670 attempts and also failed to top 5000 yards.

It would not be easy at all.logic always messes with these guys

speedman
05-20-2013, 10:45 PM
Where are the rest of the 2012/2013'er Eli jokers? Is your species territorial? It seems like when a thread gets started by one of your kind, everyone else stays away. Eli pheromone perhaps? How many yards did Eli throw for in 2011? It seems like 30 more yards a game is not out of the realm of possibility.

Morehead State
05-20-2013, 10:46 PM
I see another locked thread coming soon.

Delicreep
05-20-2013, 10:50 PM
I think Eli throws for over 5,500 and breaks Drew Brees' record this year with a healthy Nicks. We will have Nicks, Cruz, Wilson, and Meyer as weapons for Eli to throw to and he will absolutely tear **** up. I also predict that he will throw for over 40 touchdowns as well. People are too concerned with big brother, Brady and Rodgers. All I got to say is don't sleep on Eli this year.

Here's the thing: I don't think you would want this to actually come true.

Remember, Coughlin is not Belcheck or Peyton. He's not gonna keep throwing the ball when the game is in hand; he's gonna run and kill the clock.

For Eli to get these numbers, the Giants D would have to let an equally and ungodly number of yards and points, and to be battling to win every game late in the 4th.

speedman
05-20-2013, 10:54 PM
Here's the thing: I don't think you would want this to actually come true.Remember, Coughlin is not Belcheck or Peyton. He's not gonna keep throwing the ball when the game is in hand; he's gonna run and kill the clock.For Eli to get these numbers, the Giants D would have to let an equally and ungodly number of yards and points, and to be battling to win every game late in the 4th. Sounds like 2011

4thand1
05-20-2013, 10:56 PM
Where are the rest of the 2012/2013'er Eli jokers? Is your species territorial? It seems like when a thread gets started by one of your kind, everyone else stays away. Eli pheromone perhaps?

You misspelled Simms again

4thand1
05-20-2013, 10:58 PM
The team whose QB led the league in yards have never won the super bowl.

BigBlue1971
05-20-2013, 10:58 PM
i dont know if Eli will throw for 5500 yards,

if he has to throw for that many yards its not saying much for our running backs!

id really like him to throw for 4000+ with our running game adding another 2000+

speedman
05-20-2013, 10:58 PM
How many yards did Eli throw for in 2011? It seems like 30 more yards a game is not out of the realm of possibility.Where did all of the Eli haters go?

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:02 PM
Where did all of the Eli haters go?

For once, lets not go down that road in an Eli thread. I'd like to see one fizzle out due to people becoming bored, rather than having to lock it down for stupid reasons.

Drez
05-20-2013, 11:02 PM
I'm a self-admitted Eli homer. I do not see this ever happening.

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:04 PM
For once, lets not go down that road in an Eli thread. I'd like to see one fizzle out due to people becoming bored, rather than having to lock it down for stupid reasons.Why didn't you mention that to gumby who said Eli jokers?

Roosevelt
05-20-2013, 11:05 PM
Here's the thing: I don't think you would want this to actually come true.

Remember, Coughlin is not Belcheck or Peyton. He's not gonna keep throwing the ball when the game is in hand; he's gonna run and kill the clock.

For Eli to get these numbers, the Giants D would have to let an equally and ungodly number of yards and points, and to be battling to win every game late in the 4th.

I don't think any of that matters to a few of our temporary fans.

Flip Empty
05-20-2013, 11:06 PM
How many yards did Eli throw for in 2011? It seems like 30 more yards a game is not out of the realm of possibility.
589.

2011 was a very different year in terms of teams playing defense. Namely, very few teams actually played it. You can probably blame the lockout.

2011 top 5 in terms of attempts - yards

Stafford: 663/5038
Brees: 657/5476
Brady: 611/5235
Eli: 589/4933
Rivers: 582/4625

Passing numbers were ridiculous across the board.


2012 top 5:

Stafford: 727/4967
Brees: 670/5177
Romo: 648/4903
Brady: 637/4827
Luck: 627/4374

Eli finished 13th with 536/3948

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:11 PM
Why didn't you mention that to gumby who said Eli jokers?

I was thinking the exact same thing

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:13 PM
589.2011 was a very different year in terms of teams playing defense. Namely, very few teams actually played it. You can probably blame the lockout.2011 top 5 in terms of attempts - yards Stafford: 663/5038Brees: 657/5476Brady: 611/5235Eli: 589/4933Rivers: 582/4625Passing numbers were ridiculous across the board.2012 top 5:Stafford: 727/4967Brees: 670/5177Romo: 648/4903Brady: 637/4827Luck: 627/4374Eli finished 13th with 536/3948 How many yards did our team give up in 2012 without a lockout? Just saying its a possibility.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:13 PM
Where are the rest of the 2012/2013'er Eli jokers? Is your species territorial? It seems like when a thread gets started by one of your kind, everyone else stays away. Eli pheromone perhaps?

The only neanderthal here is you gumby.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:14 PM
I don't think any of that matters to a few of our temporary fans.

My stay as a giant fan will be less temporary than yours old man.

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:17 PM
Why didn't you mention that to gumby who said Eli jokers?

I'm mentioning it to everyone. I simply quoted your post as a reference

Flip Empty
05-20-2013, 11:18 PM
Man, what's with the insults? Eli is serious business.


How many yards did our team give up in 2012 without a lockout? Just saying its a possibility.
Oh of course - it's certainly possible, it just seems extremely unlikely.

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:18 PM
The only neanderthal here is you gumby.


My stay as a giant fan will be less temporary than yours old man.

Your stay on this message board will be very temporary if you keep attacking people like that

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:19 PM
I'm mentioning it to everyone. I simply quoted your post as a referenceOk. I accept your answer.

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:20 PM
Man, what's with the insults? Eli is serious business.


He brings out the worst in everybody, doesn't he?

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:20 PM
Ok. I accept your answer.

I appreciate that, Clark

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:21 PM
Your stay on this message board will be very temporary if you keep attacking people like that

I started this thread to talk about football, which I have done and followed the rules up until I was mocked and attacked first. Why can't I retaliate if you can't do your job quickly enough? The moderator bias on these boards is pretty clear, you should try to do a better job of not being so obvious.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:23 PM
I started this thread to talk about football, which I have done and followed the rules up until I was mocked and attacked first. Why can't I retaliate if you can't do your job quickly enough? The moderator bias on these boards is pretty clear, you should try to do a better job of not being so obvious.

This

It's a shame that anyone who praises Eli gets attacked and flamed

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:23 PM
Man, what's with the insults? Eli is serious business.Oh of course - it's certainly possible, it just seems extremely unlikely.It seems unlikely, not extremely unlikely.

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:25 PM
I started this thread to talk about football, which I have done and followed the rules up until I was mocked and attacked first. Why can't I retaliate if you can't do your job quickly enough? The moderator bias on these boards is pretty clear, you should try to do a better job of not being so obvious.

Retaliating only adds to the problem, and makes you look just as guilty as those who perpetrated the problem in the first place. It sort of ties our hands, because well....who gets reprimanded? The guy who started it, or the guy who retaliated in equal fashion?

There is no bias. People just dont know when to quit, and end up hurting their case in the process

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:28 PM
Retaliating only adds to the problem, and makes you look just as guilty as those who perpetrated the problem in the first place. It sort of ties our hands, because well....who gets reprimanded? The guy who started it, or the guy who retaliated in equal fashion?

There is no bias. People just dont know when to quit, and end up hurting their case in the process

Then why did you only criticize the OP's actions instead of addressing those who started the personal attacks?

Not only that, you also threatened to ban the OP, while you did not criticize those who started the personal attacks at all.

"makes you look just as guilty". therefore, i'm only going to threaten to ban YOU, not those who perpetrated the problem. Is that the philosophy of the mods on this message board?

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:30 PM
Retaliating only adds to the problem, and makes you look just as guilty as those who perpetrated the problem in the first place. It sort of ties our hands, because well....who gets reprimanded? The guy who started it, or the guy who retaliated in equal fashion?

There is no bias. People just dont know when to quit, and end up hurting their case in the process

Well nothing was said when the first insults were hurled, which was done by the same people that usually do so, also the same people who routinely derail threads. It doesn't exactly make it seem as if you are unbiased.

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:31 PM
Retaliating only adds to the problem, and makes you look just as guilty as those who perpetrated the problem in the first place. It sort of ties our hands, because well....who gets reprimanded? The guy who started it, or the guy who retaliated in equal fashion?There is no bias. People just dont know when to quit, and end up hurting their case in the processWell it shouldn't be like a football game where the retaliator gets nailed and the perpetrator gets away with it.

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:31 PM
Then why did you only criticize the OP's actions instead of addressing those who started the personal attacks?

Not only that, you also threatened to ban the OP, while you did not criticize those who started the personal attacks at all.

"makes you look just as guilty". therefore, i'm only going to threaten to ban YOU, not those who perpetrated the problem. Is that the philosophy of the mods on this message board?

Yes, we single people out all the time. Some are permitted to run amok, while others are hounded incessantly and threatened with bannings and bodily harm. Maybe you should run away while you still can

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 11:32 PM
How about if people stop getting so easily butthurt over the internet, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm a girl and I have bigger balls than some of you...

Buddy333
05-20-2013, 11:32 PM
Hope this doesn't happen. Would rather see him throw for less yards and the offense also has a dominant running game.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:33 PM
YEAH DUDE, STOP WITH THE JOKE. IT AIN'T FUNNY.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:34 PM
Yes, we single people out all the time. Some are permitted to run amok, while others are hounded incessantly and threatened with bannings and bodily harm. Maybe you should run away while you still can

Oh look, a sarcastic response to a very legitimate question.

Which is a shock because previously, all the moderators here have conducted themselves with the utmost objectivity, professionalism and poise

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:34 PM
4thand1 is still going on about this ****? Can someone ban him and get this **** over with?

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:35 PM
How about if people stop getting so easily butthurt over the internet, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm a girl and I have bigger balls than some of you...Really?

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:35 PM
Rudy has a nice pair of balls, I've seen em LALALALLA.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:35 PM
4thand1 is still going on about this ****? Can someone ban him and get this **** over with?

Yes, how dare someone ask question about how a board is moderated.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:35 PM
Anyway before this thread gets derailed any further if that is possible, to answer those that asked me if I want this to happen, of course not. I would like our team to be more balanced but that just isn't the reality at this point. We are relying heavily on a 2nd year guy in Wilson who struggled last year in the running game, and I don't think anyone can argue that our defense has been playing horribly as of late. So I would like to ask where does the offense come from?

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 11:36 PM
Really?Really. It's a message board.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:36 PM
Yes, how dare someone ask question about how a board is moderated.


Read the ****ing rule of conduct.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:37 PM
Anyway before this thread gets derailed any further if that is possible, to answer those that asked me if I want this to happen, of course not. I would like our team to be more balanced but that just isn't the reality at this point. We are relying heavily on a 2nd year guy in Wilson who struggled last year in the running game, and I don't think anyone can argue that our defense has been playing horribly as of late. So I would like to ask where does the offense come from?

Well according to the Simms worshippers here, anytime the Giants win, it's almost the running game/defence/coaching/play calling/mistakes by the other team mixed in with a whole lot of luck.

Eli doesn't factor anywhere into the equation

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:37 PM
Moke, you mean the post formatted like a rough draft of a middle school html assignment?

AHAHAHAHA

Yeah, that sure answered ALL my questions

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:38 PM
Well according to the Simms worshippers here, anytime the Giants win, it's almost the running game/defence/coaching/play calling/mistakes by the other team mixed in with a whole lot of luck.

Eli doesn't factor anywhere into the equation

Because Eli sucks, get over it. Look at his TD/INT ratio.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:38 PM
Moke, you mean the post formatted like a rough draft of a middle school html assignment?

AHAHAHAHA

Yeah, that sure answered ALL my questions

They edited it, now it looks sexy

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:38 PM
Because Eli sucks, get over it. Look at his TD/INT ratio.

You misspelled Simms

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:38 PM
Really. It's a message board.It was a question related to anatomy.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:38 PM
It was a question related to anatomy.

Tell her to send you a picture, right now.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:39 PM
You misspelled Simms

I didn't misspell jack ****. Read it bro.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:39 PM
They edited it, now it looks sexy

You mean it only took them 3 years to correct the formatting on the terms of conduct? WOW they work fast

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:39 PM
I didn't misspell jack ****. Read it bro.

I already did. You clearly misspelled Simms

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:40 PM
**** you all for derailing my thread

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 11:40 PM
It was a question related to anatomy.Yeah, I'm a girl.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:41 PM
I already did. You clearly misspelled Simms

Stop it, you're trying to hard.


And who is derailing the thread? This thread seems stupid to me. Eli for 5,500+ yards? That's not even realistic.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:43 PM
Stop it, you're trying to hard.


And who is derailing the thread? This thread seems stupid to me. Eli for 5,500+ yards? That's not even realistic.

You and the rest of the other jerks talking about unrelated stuff. I guess I will go back and chat in the freaking lounge and theee thread.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:43 PM
Stop it, you're trying to hard.


And who is derailing the thread? This thread seems stupid to me. Eli for 5,500+ yards? That's not even realistic.

Yes 30 more yards a game is clearly outside the realm of possibility

Got any more timeless wisdom you want to share?

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:44 PM
Yes, how dare someone ask question about how a board is moderated.

If they were legitimate questions, I'm more than happy to oblige in a courteous, professional manner. I tried to explain it to you earlier

You, however, insist on putting every word I say under a microscope, and it has gotten on my last nerve. There is not a concrete way to moderate a message board with such huge amounts of traffic. We are not always going to catch everything, and we are not always going to appear fair and correct on every single situation to every single person involved. It is an imperfect science. I advised you to place certain people on ignore, and since you refuse to do so, any time you see something that ruffles your feathers in the slightest is going to fall on our shoulders, with a demand that we do something about it. People were warned. I will not ban someone for poking fun at another person in obvious jest, so please either accept it or move along.

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 11:44 PM
You and the rest of the other jerks talking about unrelated stuff. I guess I will go back and chat in the freaking lounge and theee thread.You're going back to a thread that the so called "jerk" started.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:45 PM
Yes 30 more yards a game is clearly outside the realm of possibility

Got any more timeless wisdom you want to share?

Seriously. Did people forget that Eli threw for almost 5,000 yards 2 years ago?

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:45 PM
You and the rest of the other jerks talking about unrelated stuff. I guess I will go back and chat in the freaking lounge and theee thread.

You're getting all pissy for no reason. this is why I don't post here anymore. We got people like you coming here and posting ridiculous theories.


Yes 30 more yards a game is clearly outside the realm of possibility

Got any more timeless wisdom you want to share?

Read the rules of conduct fool

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:46 PM
You're going back to a thread that the so called "jerk" started.

Thank you captain obvious. Do I need to spell out my meaning to you?

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:46 PM
Seriously. Did people forget that Eli threw for almost 5,000 yards 2 years ago?

That was 2 years ago. Not happening now. Watch the running game pick up, the Giants are clearly aiming for that.

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 11:47 PM
Thank you captain obvious. Do I need to spell out my meaning to you?What meaning? Lol.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:47 PM
YO, WHAT ARE U TALKING ABOUT SON!?

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:48 PM
You're getting all pissy for no reason. this is why I don't post here anymore. We got people like you coming here and posting ridiculous theories.


Why is an extra 500 yards thank he through for 2 years ago so far out of the realm of possibility? Do you have any logical argument or are you going to continue to complain and whine? Why don't you just leave the thread?

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:48 PM
That was 2 years ago. Not happening now. Watch the running game pick up, the Giants are clearly aiming for that.

Yes clearly the offenses of the league are becoming more and more rush oriented.

Why just look at all the runningbacks that went in the first round this year.

Who even needs a decent QB anymore?

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:48 PM
What's there to derail anyway? He has a theory that Eli will break 5,500. Not much else to say... carry on.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:49 PM
Yes clearly the offenses of the league are becoming more and more rush oriented.

Why just look at all the runningbacks that went in the first round this year.

Who even needs a decent QB anymore?

We are changing the offensive line and we are planning on using the run game more. We are going against the grain.

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:49 PM
What meaning? Lol.

Yeah not getting baited in to that one.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:49 PM
Why is an extra 500 yards thank he through for 2 years ago so far out of the realm of possibility? Do you have any logical argument or are you going to continue to complain and whine? Why don't you just leave the thread?

I can do whatever I want? You're whining about people derailing the thread.....

Rudyy
05-20-2013, 11:49 PM
Yeah not getting baited in to that one.Wtf? Haha

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:50 PM
Yeah makes sense Eli28NygFan2920Fan

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:50 PM
If they were legitimate questions, I'm more than happy to oblige in a courteous, professional manner. I tried to explain it to you earlier

You, however, insist on putting every word I say under a microscope, and it has gotten on my last nerve. There is not a concrete way to moderate a message board with such huge amounts of traffic. We are not always going to catch everything, and we are not always going to appear fair and correct on every single situation to every single person involved. It is an imperfect science. I advised you to place certain people on ignore, and since you refuse to do so, any time you see something that ruffles your feathers in the slightest is going to fall on our shoulders, with a demand that we do something about it. People were warned. I will not ban someone for poking fun at another person in obvious jest, so please either accept it or move along.

I asked you why you only threatened to ban the OP, who was attacked first. It is a very legitimate question. Why were the perpetrators ignored while the OP was threatened with a ban?

Instead, you posted an unconstructive sarcastic response. You could've just stated that the perpetrators have been warned. (if that is what you meant by "people have been warned").

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:51 PM
IMO, to get back to the thread. I think Eli will go for like 4,000 yards. Nothing more than that. I think we're going to see a monster year in David Wilson and Andre Brown.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:52 PM
4thand1 is obviously the OP. They are playing tricks on people. Ban them both.

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:52 PM
Yes 30 more yards a game is clearly outside the realm of possibilityGot any more timeless wisdom you want to share?I do have more wisdom to share. Anyone who knows that someone threw for 4900+ yards and states 5500 is impossible is an .....

EliMVP-NYG
05-20-2013, 11:52 PM
If they were legitimate questions, I'm more than happy to oblige in a courteous, professional manner. I tried to explain it to you earlier

You, however, insist on putting every word I say under a microscope, and it has gotten on my last nerve. There is not a concrete way to moderate a message board with such huge amounts of traffic. We are not always going to catch everything, and we are not always going to appear fair and correct on every single situation to every single person involved. It is an imperfect science. I advised you to place certain people on ignore, and since you refuse to do so, any time you see something that ruffles your feathers in the slightest is going to fall on our shoulders, with a demand that we do something about it. People were warned. I will not ban someone for poking fun at another person in obvious jest, so please either accept it or move along.

So calling someone an old man isn't poking at someone in jest? And people say Eli isn't consistent.........

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:53 PM
I do have more wisdom to share. Anyone who knows that someone threw for 4900+ yards and states 5500 is impossible is an .....

600 yards is a lot, just stop.

4thand1
05-20-2013, 11:54 PM
600 yards is a lot?

Eli threw 500+ in a single game last season

ROFL

Roosevelt
05-20-2013, 11:55 PM
How about if people stop getting so easily butthurt over the internet, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm a girl and I have bigger balls than some of you...

So true.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:55 PM
600 yards is a lot?

Eli threw 500+ in a single game last season

ROFL

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfJpLV6t73Go4NyPpAe4b0tyZF5fJol RoIP-eqvTg0NMxFatSHgA

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:57 PM
I asked you why you only threatened to ban the OP, who was attacked first. It is a very legitimate question. Why were the perpetrators ignored while the OP was threatened with a ban?

Instead, you posted an unconstructive sarcastic response. You could've just stated that the perpetrators have been warned. (if that is what you meant by "people have been warned").

1. People were warned. You cant see it, but they were warned
2. I dont owe you an explanation of any kind
3. Confused? See #'s 1 and 2

Die-Hard
05-20-2013, 11:58 PM
So calling someone an old man isn't poking at someone in jest? And people say Eli isn't consistent.........

You're right. Here comes a warning, just to keep the record straight.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:58 PM
Stop busting Die-Hard's balls. He's doing a good job here. He warns people when necessary.

speedman
05-20-2013, 11:58 PM
600 yards is a lot, just stop.35 yards per game. Not impossible.

Moke
05-20-2013, 11:59 PM
35 yards per game. Not impossible.

Law of averages.

speedman
05-21-2013, 12:01 AM
Law of averages.Law of averages are broken all the time.

Moke
05-21-2013, 12:01 AM
Law of averages are broken all the time.

Thanks for proving my point. He went for 4,900 once. It's not impossible, but it's highly unlikely he'll break 5,500 yards.

EliMVP-NYG
05-21-2013, 12:02 AM
You're right. Here comes a warning, just to keep the record straight.

You should send yourself a warning for trying to derail this thread. I'm pretty sure that is against the rules here is it not?

speedman
05-21-2013, 12:02 AM
Law of averages.Last post. Do I think it will happen no, but it is very possible.

gumby74
05-21-2013, 12:02 AM
How about if people stop getting so easily butthurt over the internet, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm a girl and I have bigger balls than some of you...

Rudyy laying down the law. Be scared 2012/2013'ers. Be very scared.

Moke
05-21-2013, 12:04 AM
You should send yourself a warning for trying to derail this thread. I'm pretty sure that is against the rules here is it not?

Who is derailing the thread? I started talking about the giants and **** and the thread. If it's anyone that's derailing the thread, it's YOU.

Stop trying to play victim and get people warned and banned.

EliMVP-NYG
05-21-2013, 12:04 AM
Rudyy laying down the law. Be scared 2012/2013'ers. Be very scared.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3639/3349646866_42d4314854_o.jpg

Moke
05-21-2013, 12:05 AM
Now, goodnight people! Enjoy!

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 12:05 AM
Rudyy laying down the law. Be scared 2012/2013'ers. Be very scared.+ infinity and beyond.

Moke
05-21-2013, 12:05 AM
Time to go watch Colbert Report, ya dig

4thand1
05-21-2013, 12:06 AM
Time to go watch Colbert Report, ya dig

I would choose a more intelligent show, like the Jersey shore

buh bye!

Die-Hard
05-21-2013, 12:07 AM
You should send yourself a warning for trying to derail this thread. I'm pretty sure that is against the rules here is it not?

I'm answering questions that are asked of me. It stops after I warn myself

There, its done. Lets get this thread back on track and not locked down.

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 12:08 AM
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3639/3349646866_42d4314854_o.jpgAm I the protoceratops eating gumby? Wrong.

Die-Hard
05-21-2013, 12:09 AM
Am I the protoceratops eating gumby? Wrong.

I thought you were a vegetarian....

gumby74
05-21-2013, 12:10 AM
Am I the protoceratops eating gumby? Wrong.

Protoceratopses don't have horns.I think this guy is named monoclionius or something like that.

4thand1
05-21-2013, 12:10 AM
1. People were warned. You cant see it, but they were warned
2. I dont owe you an explanation of any kind
3. Confused? See #'s 1 and 2

Oh look another condescending comment.

And in case you haven't noticed, you accused me of asking an illegitimate question, I was just making the case that what I asked was legitimate. Instead, you post a condescending comment on how you do not owe me an explanation. Way to accuse me of something, and then change the subject when I respond.

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 12:11 AM
Protoceratopses don't have horns.I think this guy is named monoclionius or something like that.Oh true true...

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 12:11 AM
I want the Giants to be the first team to win a SB on their home field.

I don't care about the stats, they are just a bonus; however, I will say that no one will ever put up monster stats in Killdrive's guess and go system.

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 12:12 AM
I thought you were a vegetarian....No waaay

4thand1
05-21-2013, 12:12 AM
Hey don't insult Kevin Gilbride

According to the Simms worshippers here, he deserves 10 times the credit Eli does for those 2 rings

EliMVP-NYG
05-21-2013, 12:14 AM
I want the Giants to be the first team to win a SB on their home field.

I don't care about the stats, they are just a bonus; however, I will say that no one will ever put up monster stats in Killdrive's guess and go system.

4900 yards in the air isn't a monster stat?

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 12:14 AM
Hey don't insulting Kevin GilbrideAccording to the Simms worshippers here, he deserves 10 times the credit Eli does for those 2 ringsIt's insult, not insulting.

gumby74
05-21-2013, 12:15 AM
Oh true true... But, I'm impressed. I don't know too many females that gave two ****s about dinosaurs as kids. Haha.

4thand1
05-21-2013, 12:15 AM
4900 yards in the air isn't a monster stat?

LOL no

According to Simms cultists, it is just a combination of offensive line/running game/opponents defence/head coaching.

He would barely break 2000 on an average team

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 12:17 AM
But, I'm impressed. I don't know too many females that gave two ****s about dinosaurs as kids. Haha.Land Before Time made too many movies..LOL

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 12:19 AM
4900 yards in the air isn't a monster stat?


No but I blame killdrive for Eli never having thrown for 30tds.

I do feel that we like to run it in, which isn't a problem for me because i'd take the td that will help the giants win. Other teams pad their qb stats by getting the easy pass touchdowns.

I also hated killdrives playcalling when we got into the redzone.

We had no offensive line the last couple of years with a league worst running game. What do we do in the redzone?

Run for a loss on 1st down, run for a yard gain on 2nd down then corner fade that never worked on 3rd down. That's on coaching..


EDIT *** Another way to look at this, Eli Manning has the record for the most yards thrown in a year by a super bowl winning qb.

Roosevelt
05-21-2013, 12:25 AM
When Archie said he didn't want Eli on the Chargers do you you think he had any idea what would transpire here in NY?

Die-Hard
05-21-2013, 12:26 AM
When Archie said he didn't want Eli on the Chargers do you you think he had any idea what would transpire here in NY?

I think he had a very good idea of what would happen in SD. Look at them now. He was right

Drez
05-21-2013, 12:34 AM
When Archie said he didn't want Eli on the Chargers do you you think he had any idea what would transpire here in NY?Whether or not Archie thought Eli would go on to win multiple championships is up to question. What is not is that he knew that the Giants were a well enough run organization to make it possible, whereas SD is not.

Diamondring
05-21-2013, 02:49 AM
Nicks has never put in a full season as a Giant either. Do you expect him to this season?He could have stayed healthy last year it some stupid defender didn't jump on his foot wich would have injured anybody. Nicks is also a former 1,000 yard receiver. He wasn't hurt that much inorder to be a former 1,000 yard receiver. When he was not 100 percent. Cruz's production slipped some. Without more talent, Cruz's chances of getting hurt and be out of football could increase cause defenses could target him more. When he catches the ball, defenders could lay it on him like the Steelers did. They popped pretty boy real hard. If Cruz does get hurt and be out of the game, what would the Giants do?

Imgrate
05-21-2013, 03:48 AM
600 yards is a lot?Eli threw 500+ in a single game last seasonROFLSo he needs to play 2 more games.

giantsfan420
05-21-2013, 04:53 AM
to be honest, I thought he would do something like that stat line by now. Not 5500, but 5000 and 40ish TDs. He did the yards, but not tds.

I think it'd be more reasonable to think like 4300 yards and 38 TD with 11 ints. I think he could be at that level. But, look at the thread how good can our run game be and look at the article. Usually, when a QB has that many tds, the running game wont have many at all. We still are traditional in the sense we use a FB and are run oriented by the goal line. 15 TD last yr by the rbs...for him to be at 40, the rbs would have to have like 6 tds lol. and that simply wont happen. there are so many times where a receiver gets tackled at the 1...happened like 6x in 2011.
Id rather the entire offense be successful, that will honestly help eli and everyone play to their best. if we can threaten run and force Ds to stack the box, eli will go over the top time n time again.

giantsfan420
05-21-2013, 04:57 AM
No but I blame killdrive for Eli never having thrown for 30tds.

I do feel that we like to run it in, which isn't a problem for me because i'd take the td that will help the giants win. Other teams pad their qb stats by getting the easy pass touchdowns.

I also hated killdrives playcalling when we got into the redzone.

We had no offensive line the last couple of years with a league worst running game. What do we do in the redzone?

Run for a loss on 1st down, run for a yard gain on 2nd down then corner fade that never worked on 3rd down. That's on coaching..


EDIT *** Another way to look at this, Eli Manning has the record for the most yards thrown in a year by a super bowl winning qb.yeah we are traditional moreso than any other team imo. Use the FB and go heavy automatically down by the goal line and line up with the OL KNOWING the DL KNOWS its a run, and that its man on man...well, we saw how that ended up too many times...I agree we fell into a bad habit of 1rst down run, 2nd down run, 3rd down fade in the RZ...we were too forced at times tho bc of Nicks not being 100%. we were in a lot of situations i dont think we'll see provided nicks n cruz can stay relatively healthy.

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 05:16 AM
^^ I agree.. It was predictable in the redzone, that's one reason why our offense sputtered. We had no problem moving from 20-20 but once inside, our coaching staff became robots and started to follow a predetermined script. Hopefully with an improving OL and a good to great running game, we will definitely put the pressure on opposing defenses and score more TD's. Either through the air or on the ground.

Also I shouldn't lay all the blame on the coaching for Eli not to have 30tds yet.

We ran the ball in from the 1-5 yards a lot last year for TD (not complaining, I'd take the TD every time) . Other Qb's ahem, ahem, Rodgers, Brees,looked to throw gimmie TD instead.

BuffyBlueII
05-21-2013, 05:25 AM
Uh oh, another Eli does good/does bad debate thread.

So, I have to say this, Lets Go NY Rangers.

Blue or Die.

Flip Empty
05-21-2013, 07:05 AM
I think it'd be more reasonable to think like 4300 yards and 38 TD with 11 ints. I think he could be at that level. But, look at the thread how good can our run game be and look at the article. Usually, when a QB has that many tds, the running game wont have many at all.

Brady finished 34 TDs/8 INTs and the Pats lead the league with 21 rushing touchdowns (25 including Brady's dives), so it's certainly possible to do both.

Diamondring
05-21-2013, 08:13 AM
Brady finished 34 TDs/8 INTs and the Pats lead the league with 21 rushing touchdowns (25 including Brady's dives), so it's certainly possible to do both.Yeah cause the Pats are a high scoring football team. When scoring a lot of points, the offense gots to try and try to score quick and fast on every possession wich I believe the Pats try to do. Some offenses will try to take time off the clock.

Flip Empty
05-21-2013, 08:29 AM
Yeah cause the Pats are a high scoring football team. When scoring a lot of points, the offense gots to try and try to score quick and fast on every possession wich I believe the Pats try to do. Some offenses will try to take time off the clock.
Yep. It's why I doubt Eli will ever put up numbers like the ones suggested.

RoanokeFan
05-21-2013, 08:54 AM
Yep. It's why I doubt Eli will ever put up numbers like the ones suggested.

Just win the games

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 09:35 AM
No but I blame killdrive for Eli never having thrown for 30tds.

I do feel that we like to run it in, which isn't a problem for me because i'd take the td that will help the giants win. Other teams pad their qb stats by getting the easy pass touchdowns.

I also hated killdrives playcalling when we got into the redzone.

We had no offensive line the last couple of years with a league worst running game. What do we do in the redzone?

Run for a loss on 1st down, run for a yard gain on 2nd down then corner fade that never worked on 3rd down. That's on coaching..


EDIT *** Another way to look at this, Eli Manning has the record for the most yards thrown in a year by a super bowl winning qb.

Isn't trying to develop a good running game that can impose its will in goal line situations good for the team?
I don't understand your point. The Pats had a ton of rushing TD's and their QB threw for 38 TD's.

gumby74
05-21-2013, 09:42 AM
Uh oh, another Eli does good/does bad debate thread.

So, I have to say this, Lets Go NY Rangers.

Blue or Die.

Devils > Rangers

GameTime
05-21-2013, 09:47 AM
Just win the games
now you know why I posted what I did right that start yesterday.....:)

GameTime
05-21-2013, 09:49 AM
more Eli is this or that or isn't this or that...blah blah blah
been 8 seasons now....
he is what he is and has accomplished quite a bit along with the rest of the team and coaching staff...

giantscolombia
05-21-2013, 09:54 AM
I think Eli throws for over 5,500 and breaks Drew Brees' record this year with a healthy Nicks. We will have Nicks, Cruz, Wilson, and Meyer as weapons for Eli to throw to and he will absolutely tear **** up. I also predict that he will throw for over 40 touchdowns as well. People are too concerned with big brother, Brady and Rodgers. All I got to say is don't sleep on Eli this year.

get out of here Troll!

EliDaMANning
05-21-2013, 10:11 AM
Eli should've had 5k yards back in 2011 if it wasn't for Nicks and Hixon routinely dropping his bombs that season. Outside of Tiki, Eli has never had a catching RB that can be used in short passes and screens. We finally got one in Wilson so I expect to see more of him making catches. That's if Killdrive decides to open up his playbook like he finally did in week 17 last year. Wow what a clown coaching staff we have that I can't stand.

The only way I see him hitting 5k yards this year is in a similar situation in 2011 where he ended up carrying the entire team to a SB ring.

EliDaMANning
05-21-2013, 10:19 AM
^^ I agree.. It was predictable in the redzone, that's one reason why our offense sputtered. We had no problem moving from 20-20 but once inside, our coaching staff became robots and started to follow a predetermined script. Hopefully with an improving OL and a good to great running game, we will definitely put the pressure on opposing defenses and score more TD's. Either through the air or on the ground.

Also I shouldn't lay all the blame on the coaching for Eli not to have 30tds yet.

We ran the ball in from the 1-5 yards a lot last year for TD (not complaining, I'd take the TD every time) . Other Qb's ahem, ahem, Rodgers, Brees,looked to throw gimmie TD instead.Eli had 30+ TD one year I believe. I think 2010.

Drez
05-21-2013, 10:30 AM
Eli should've had 5k yards back in 2011 if it wasn't for Nicks and Hixon routinely dropping his bombs that season. Outside of Tiki, Eli has never had a catching RB that can be used in short passes and screens. We finally got one in Wilson so I expect to see more of him making catches. That's if Killdrive decides to open up his playbook like he finally did in week 17 last year. Wow what a clown coaching staff we have that I can't stand.

The only way I see him hitting 5k yards this year is in a similar situation in 2011 where he ended up carrying the entire team to a SB ring.Hixon tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Rams. How "routinely" could he be "dropping bombs?"

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 10:32 AM
Why does anyone really care? If he throws for a ton of yards it usually mean that our team is struggling. Is it more important than wins for God's sake?

Maybe to some.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 10:33 AM
Hixon tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Rams. How "routinely" could he be "dropping bombs?"
And he did it on a brilliant TD catch that won the game for us.

I love the alternate realities that some posters live in.

EliDaMANning
05-21-2013, 10:33 AM
Hixon tore his ACL in Week 2 against the Rams. How "routinely" could he be "dropping bombs?"I was probably thinking of a different year with Hixon.

Drez
05-21-2013, 10:35 AM
Why does anyone really care? If he throws for a ton of yards it usually mean that our team is struggling. Is it more important than wins for God's sake?

Maybe to some.Morehead, why do you do that? Did absolutely anyone intimate that they'd rather have Eli hit 5500 yards than get wins?

Also, just because we're throwing for a lot of yards doesn't necessitate the team struggling. Were the '11 Pats or Saints struggling when both their QBs threw for over 5k yards? Weren't both teams the winners of their divisions? An increase in offensive efficiency would result in more yards gained and points scored.

Drez
05-21-2013, 10:36 AM
I was probably thinking of a different year with Hixon.The ONE pass he dropped in '08 against the Eagles? Actually he dropped all of two passes that season. TWO. And none of those yards would have been awarded to Eli in '11.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 10:46 AM
Morehead, why do you do that? Did absolutely anyone intimate that they'd rather have Eli hit 5500 yards than get wins?

Also, just because we're throwing for a lot of yards doesn't necessitate the team struggling. Were the '11 Pats or Saints struggling when both their QBs threw for over 5k yards? Weren't both teams the winners of their divisions? An increase in offensive efficiency would result in more yards gained and points scored.
Not the way our offense works.
Our offense clicks when we have balance. If Eli throws for an ungodly amount it means we have a poor running game. Our best regular season (2008) we were 12-4 and Eli threw for 3200 yards.

Trust me, if Eli throw for 4500 yards it will come with a lot of picks due to the need to throw it all the time.

And forget 2011 as an example because that was a season that everybody and their brother threw for 4000 yards due to the lockout.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 10:48 AM
I was probably thinking of a different year with Hixon.
You weren't thinking of any season with Hixon. Hixon doesn't drop a lot of balls at all.

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 10:58 AM
Isn't trying to develop a good running game that can impose its will in goal line situations good for the team?I don't understand your point. The Pats had a ton of rushing TD's and their QB threw for 38 TD's.. In your haste to oppose any or all of my views, it's obvious you just unintentionally confused yourself because you're not adressing anything ive said. I dont care how we score td's as long as we get them. I also specifically mentioned Rodgers and Bree's but left out Brady for the reason you mentioned. Brady has has two huge targets, better ol and a better system than the one Killdrive runs. So in the interests of a constructive discussion tell me what has you stumped and ill do my best to help you understand.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:03 AM
. In your haste to oppose any or all of my views, it's obvious you just unintentionally confused yourself because you're not adressing anything ive said. I dont care how we score td's as long as we get them. I also specifically mentioned Rodgers and Bree's but left out Brady for the reason you mentioned. Brady has has two huge targets, better ol and a better system than the one Killdrive runs. So in the interests of a constructive discussion tell me what has you stumped and ill do my best to help you understand.
You don't have "views". All you do is spew your agenda. You excluded Brady because it doesn't fit that agenda.
Eli has never thrown a lot of TD's. Not when we ran the ball a well, or we ran the ball poorly. He just doesn't throw a lot of TD passes. We simply don't do a good job of scoring in the red zone since Eli got here.
You can blame TC or KG if you want. I know you will blame anyone other that the QB. That's your deal. I get it. But it is to be dismissed out of hand.

Your posts are not to be taken seriously. So I don't.

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:04 AM
Eli had 30+ TD one year I believe. I think 2010. 29td while throwing to the likes of Hagen, Calhoun and manningham. That's a good accomplishment right there because iirc both of these guys (excluding manningham)were flipping burgers before the giants called them.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:11 AM
29td while throwing to the likes of Hagen, Calhoun and manningham. That's a good accomplishment right there because iirc both of these guys (excluding manningham)were flipping burgers before the giants called them.
Really? The year he threw for 29 TD's. Calhoon wasn't on the team and all but 3 TD's were caught by the regular starters. (Nicks, Smith, MM, Jacobs, Boss)

Right up there with your "Hixon drop" alternate reality.

gumby74
05-21-2013, 11:11 AM
Morehead, why do you do that? Did absolutely anyone intimate that they'd rather have Eli hit 5500 yards than get wins?

Also, just because we're throwing for a lot of yards doesn't necessitate the team struggling. Were the '11 Pats or Saints struggling when both their QBs threw for over 5k yards? Weren't both teams the winners of their divisions? An increase in offensive efficiency would result in more yards gained and points scored.

Given some of the 2012/2013er Eli comments, is it so far fetched to think that? I'm sure a big Eli fan like yourself have scratched your head puzzled on more than one occasion. It reminds of me of Agent Smith in the Matrix when he managed to clone himself. A few of them walked into a spawning pool in 2012 and a billion of them walked out.

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 11:13 AM
Stop the madness!

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:15 AM
Stop the madness!
BTW Rudy....May I compliment you one your taking on the world in TAGF last night. Morehead was impressed.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:16 AM
I would choose a more intelligent show, like the Jersey shore

buh bye!

Obvious trollin;

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 11:18 AM
BTW Rudy....May I compliment you one your taking on the world in TAGF last night. Morehead was impressed.Lmao taking on the world, that's funny. It's not even football talk! It's trying to rile people up and get them banned, childish..

Rudyy
05-21-2013, 11:18 AM
Obvious trollin;Right?

Flip Empty
05-21-2013, 11:19 AM
29td while throwing to the likes of Hagen, Calhoun and manningham. That's a good accomplishment right there because iirc both of these guys (excluding manningham)were flipping burgers before the giants called them.
It was 31 touchdowns; 25 interceptions.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:20 AM
29td while throwing to the likes of Hagen, Calhoun and manningham. That's a good accomplishment right there because iirc both of these guys (excluding manningham)were flipping burgers before the giants called them.

Why do you have 3 accounts?

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:21 AM
Really? The year he threw for 29 TD's. Calhoon wasn't on the team and all but 3 TD's were caught by the regular starters. (Nicks, Smith, MM, Jacobs, Boss)Right up there with your "Hixon drop" alternate reality.Irony abound!! Since you're still stuck in the Simms era there is no way for you to have known that Calhoun played with us in 2010. Irony? Or dolltish?

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:23 AM
Irony abound!! Since you're still stuck in the Simms era there is no way for you to have known that Calhoun played with us in 2010. Irony? Or dolltish?
But that's not the year he threw for 29 TD's, which was 2011. That's what you said kiddo.

Flip Empty
05-21-2013, 11:24 AM
You lot have issues.

http://i.imgur.com/85sXU66.gif

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:25 AM
It was 31 touchdowns; 25 interceptions. you're right, even more impressive than I thought. Thanks!

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:27 AM
Why do you have 3 accounts? so that I can argue with myself? Nobelist has 29 TD as career high? No I believe he had 31 in 2010. Riiggghtttt!

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:27 AM
you're right, evenlre impressive than I thought. Thanks!
And in 2010, Nicks, MM, Smith and Boss caught 28 of Eli's 31 TD's.

Not exactly the season of Calhoon and Hagan.

Nicks and Manningham were the #1 WR duo in the NFL that year with 20 TD's between them. Eli had great weapons in 2010.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:27 AM
so that I can argue with myself? Nobelist has 29 TD as career high? No I believe he had 31 in 2010. Riiggghtttt!

Sounds pretty pathetic.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:28 AM
Sounds pretty pathetic.
Its not so he can argue with himself, its so he can agree with himself.


I guess that's actually MORE pathetic.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:29 AM
That really is more pathetic

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:30 AM
That really is more pathetic

But kind of lovable as well.

Its like the three faces of Eve with this guy. Its pathetic......yet charming in a twisted way.

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:31 AM
Get ready for another padlock.

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:31 AM
You don't have "views". All you do is spew your agenda. You excluded Brady because it doesn't fit that agenda.Eli has never thrown a lot of TD's. Not when we ran the ball a well, or we ran the ball poorly. He just doesn't throw a lot of TD passes. We simply don't do a good job of scoring in the red zone since Eli got here.You can blame TC or KG if you want. I know you will blame anyone other that the QB. That's your deal. I get it. But it is to be dismissed out of hand.Your posts are not to be taken seriously. So I don't. are you paranoid? What makes you think I have an agenda?We had trouble score td's before Eli came here. 2003 I believe not a single wr scored a TD. Can you please try to blame that on Eli too? Or the fact the sad sack Warner had 7tds in 9 games while Eli as a rookie playing terribly matched him with this total in 2 less games. You don't have to lower someone to raise another.

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:33 AM
Sounds pretty pathetic. sad and pathetic if you actually missed my point.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:34 AM
sad and pathetic if you actually missed my point.

Stop trying to make yourself feel better

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:38 AM
are you paranoid? What makes you think I have an agenda?We had trouble score td's before Eli came here. 2003 I believe not a single wr scored a TD. Can you please try to blame that on Eli too? Or the fact the sad sack Warner had 7tds in 9 games while Eli as a rookie playing terribly matched him with this total in 2 less games. You don't have to lower someone to raise another.

I don't know what you're talking about. I think you're a swell guy.

And who is being raised and who is being lowered in your little scenario?

EliDaMANning
05-21-2013, 11:40 AM
Its not so he can argue with himself, its so he can agree with himself.


I guess that's actually MORE pathetic.Why are you agreeing with youself?

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:42 AM
Stop trying to make yourself feel better Stop pretending like it's ok to still be living in your parent's basement with your grandkids.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:43 AM
Stop pretending that's ok to still be living in your parent's basement with your grandkids.

Lol oh ****, that offended me so much!

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:43 AM
Why are you agreeing with youself?

Can I speak to DarkSaint again. Go to sleep and bring him out.
As long as its not that "ill" guy.

DarkSaint
05-21-2013, 11:45 AM
Lol oh ****, that offended me so much! basement dweller? :)

Morehead State
05-21-2013, 11:48 AM
Stop pretending like it's ok to still be living in your parent's basement with your grandkids.
Its actually very OK. But that's a crapload on generations in one house.

Moke
05-21-2013, 11:49 AM
Its actually very OK. But that's a crapload on generations in one house.

The Chinese do this, and I don't approve.