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RoanokeFan
07-03-2013, 10:50 AM
http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Watch-Competition-at-offensive-tackle/08f20a73-ae83-417c-bda7-fe01f3d9a2c2

During team OTA's, Offensive Line Coach Pat Flaherty met with Giants.com (http://www.giants.com/news-and-blogs/article-1/Watch-O-Line-coach-talks-Pugh-and-veterans/3eaeb820-a311-4812-b3e7-54db2d8de928) to update the team's progress:

Q: How has Justin Pugh taken to life in the NFL?

A: Fine. He’s working extremely hard. He comes to work everyday. He’s still finding some things out about the NFL, which he will continue to do for a long time. But he’s conscientious, he gives good effort. He’s guy that wants to learn football, wants to learn the techniques of the NFL as much as anyone.

Q: Are the veterans making him bring in deliveries?

A: I don’t pay much attention to that. That’s up to those guys. He knows this. He knows his job and what he has to do in terms of on the field and also off the field in that room. So if they have to remind him, then I don’t think they’ll be very kind in reminding him about those things.

Q: Do you expect David Baas and Chris Snee to be ready to go by training camp?

A: I’m not concerned about it. I think they’re going to be ready. They’re out there. They’re doing what they can do on the field right now. In the classroom they’re doing everything they need to do. They’re focused. They’ve seen all of the cutups. They’ve actually done extra work in the classroom when they couldn’t be on the field. I anticipate them being ready for training camp.

Q: How much progress has James Brewer made?

A: James has an opportunity here in the OTAs to get a lot of reps. He’s getting the most reps of anybody because we have him at right guard and then swing him back to right tackle because David Diehl is limited with the amount of reps he can do right now. That’s helping him and he has some good days and he has some bad days. So right now we have to get more good days than bad days.

Q: How many open spots are there that guys are competing for starting jobs right now?

A: There’s a lot of open spots. You have William Beatty back at left tackle and Kevin Boothe at left guard and David Baas and Chris Snee have been injured and David Diehl is limited along with Kevin Boothe. So you have really four spots there that guys are in and out and this gives an opportunity for the younger guys to step up and see if they can take the bull by the horn. In the long run, it will be nothing but really secured at most positions.

Q: What’s the key to getting the Giants back to a dominant power running game?

A: We have to get everybody working together. We have to look to the tight end to be able to block different types of concepts. In the run game, we have to get the backs to mesh with the offensive line and we have to get the offensive line to come off the ball and sustain the blocks. If we’re able to do that, we’ll be better in 2013 than we were in 2012.

Q: Do you see a lot of progress from Matt McCants and Brandon Mosley?

A: They are progressing in the OTAs and each day they progress, but they’re still behind because… Matt was able to get some work in on the practice squad last year and Brandon missed the whole training camp with surgery and everything. So he’s really more or less still a rookie. But I see some good things out of both of those guys. As we do with most people on the offensive line… being able to be versatile and play multiple positions… We have Matt working at center and both guards and Brandon working at tackle and guard. Right now it’s hard on them, difficult because they have to be able to play both positions but they’re settling in with techniques getting a little bit better and they seem like they’re learning the offense very well.

TheAnalyst
07-03-2013, 10:56 AM
All these answers sound like we are in trouble in my opinion. Every answer he gives is very "He is willing to learn... He is going to try... they are coming to work everyday...."

Really? Pugh, our #19 overall pick is coming to work everyday? Awesome. Hopefully that continues.

RoanokeFan
07-03-2013, 10:58 AM
All these answers sound like we are in trouble in my opinion. Every answer he gives is very "He is willing to learn... He is going to try... they are coming to work everyday...."

Really? Pugh, our #19 overall pick is coming to work everyday? Awesome. Hopefully that continues.

Hopefully, by the end of training camp, his answers provide more confidence.

giantscolombia
07-03-2013, 11:12 AM
I still dont know if i should have high expectations for Pugh...

RoanokeFan
07-03-2013, 11:14 AM
I still dont know if i should have high expectations for Pugh...

He's a # 1 pick so I'm guessing yes, but how high or maybe how soon, is the question?

GameTime
07-03-2013, 11:35 AM
Pugh.....bad pick JR is a dope

now I know what its like to post like MH....:)

Glibride rarely gives out unbridle praise. Actually almost never. Not even with his vets

BigBlue1971
07-03-2013, 11:50 AM
I still dont know if i should have high expectations for Pugh...

just the fact hes drafted in the 1st round has me high on him. reportedly he can play another 1 or 2 positions along the o-line.....and this is out of college.

idk many other rookies who fit in that category. i think he'll show up big time as a rookie.

giantscolombia
07-03-2013, 11:54 AM
just the fact hes drafted in the 1st round has me high on him. reportedly he can play another 1 or 2 positions along the o-line.....and this is out of college.

idk many other rookies who fit in that category. i think he'll show up big time as a rookie.

I hope you are right! hahah i'm sure if he doesnt we are going to have many threads on here grilling Reese over his pick.

B-Red22
07-03-2013, 11:54 AM
Pugh.....bad pick JR is a dope

now I know what its like to post like MH....:)

Glibride rarely gives out unbridle praise. Actually almost never. Not even with his vets

Well this isn't Gilbride

BigBlue1971
07-03-2013, 12:18 PM
I hope you are right! hahah i'm sure if he doesnt we are going to have many threads on here grilling Reese over his pick.

idk if 1 year is long enough to determine his value but we will all have a good indication after the season. im looking forward to seeing him play.

RoanokeFan
07-03-2013, 12:21 PM
just the fact hes drafted in the 1st round has me high on him. reportedly he can play another 1 or 2 positions along the o-line.....and this is out of college.

idk many other rookies who fit in that category. i think he'll show up big time as a rookie.

They actually think he can learn to play center as well. Versatility is a huge plus here.

GameTime
07-03-2013, 12:52 PM
Well this isn't Gilbride
my bad.....sorry

BigBlue1971
07-03-2013, 12:55 PM
They actually think he can learn to play center as well. Versatility is a huge plus here.

it certainly does go a long ways versatility. the Giants are big on that.

RoanokeFan
07-03-2013, 02:11 PM
it certainly does go a long ways versatility. the Giants are big on that.

If I remember correctly, he can play both guard and tackle positions

B&RWarrior
07-03-2013, 02:27 PM
Brewer's comments sound the most disappointing.

TheAnalyst
07-03-2013, 02:33 PM
Brewer's comments sound the most disappointing. along with Mosely and McCants. Those 2 sound like we should just cut them now. I dont think Brewer is going to make it in the NFL.

Kruunch
07-03-2013, 02:38 PM
Definitely not getting a strong vibe on our previous picks (Brewer, McCants and Mosely).

I think Pugh will be fine (and our starting RT).

TCHOF
07-03-2013, 03:22 PM
Definitely not getting a strong vibe on our previous picks (Brewer, McCants and Mosely).

I think Pugh will be fine (and our starting RT).

McCants was god-awful during last pre-season. It is hard to imagine why he is even still here.

JesseJames
07-03-2013, 05:34 PM
just about every sports analyst I've heard says that the Giants reached for Pugh in round 1 and reaching for a player is supposed to be something they say they never do...

giantsfan420
07-03-2013, 06:09 PM
just about every sports analyst I've heard says that the Giants reached for Pugh in round 1 and reaching for a player is supposed to be something they say they never do...and the same was said about Phillips, Nicks, Wilson, etc etc. all those guys turned out to be obviously BPA caliber picks.

giantsfan420
07-03-2013, 06:09 PM
McCants was god-awful during last pre-season. It is hard to imagine why he is even still here.well apparently its bc he was injured and is basically still a rookie

jomo
07-03-2013, 06:21 PM
Q: What’s the key to getting the Giants back to a dominant power running game?

A: We have to get everybody working together. We have to look to the tight end to be able to block different types of concepts. In the run game, we have to get the backs to mesh with the offensive line and we have to get the offensive line to come off the ball and sustain the blocks. If we’re able to do that, we’ll be better in 2013 than we were in 2012.

This is deep stuff indeed! ;)

TCHOF
07-03-2013, 07:22 PM
well apparently its bc he was injured and is basically still a rookie

That's Mosley if I'm not mistaken . . . .

Astorian
07-04-2013, 12:35 AM
"We have to look to the tight end to be able to block different types of concepts".

If that's what it takes, then I'm your man, Coach. I can pancake any concept I've ever conceived of.

JesseJames
07-04-2013, 11:46 AM
and the same was said about Phillips, Nicks, Wilson, etc etc. all those guys turned out to be obviously BPA caliber picks. I understand what you're saying but some draft boards had Pugh going in the 2nd and some in the third round...

speedman
07-04-2013, 11:55 AM
I understand what you're saying but some draft boards had Pugh going in the 2nd and some in the third round...Do you think if we didn't take him he would have lasted to the 2nd or 3rd round?

giantsfan420
07-04-2013, 11:57 AM
I understand what you're saying but some draft boards had Pugh going in the 2nd and some in the third round...and the same thing was said about each those guys i listed as well.

and, there was at least one personnel guy from a team who was quoted as saying he put Pugh with Jokel and Fisher, ahead of Johnson. each team will have players ranked differently for the most part. for example, ingrate cited dallas's draft board which he claimed (i saw the leaked dallas draft board i saw frederick had a 2nd rd grade i cant recall where they had Pugh)was proof pugh was this 2nd rd prospect by every gm's account.
well, we've seen the success dallas has had lately including the draft and i think i'll stick with the Gmen and believing they know best

hugehomer
07-04-2013, 01:22 PM
Translation, Brewer is a bust.

TCHOF
07-04-2013, 01:44 PM
and the same thing was said about each those guys i listed as well.

and, there was at least one personnel guy from a team who was quoted as saying he put Pugh with Jokel and Fisher, ahead of Johnson. each team will have players ranked differently for the most part. for example, ingrate cited dallas's draft board which he claimed (i saw the leaked dallas draft board i saw frederick had a 2nd rd grade i cant recall where they had Pugh)was proof pugh was this 2nd rd prospect by every gm's account.
well, we've seen the success dallas has had lately including the draft and i think i'll stick with the Gmen and believing they know best

Some of the team's draft boards have less than 32 players grouped in the first rounder category. So taking a player in the first round who is grouped among the second round players might not be a "reach" if all of the "first rounders" have already been chosen. In other words, if a team's board only has 20 players grouped in the first rounder category, then it would not be a reach to take a player grouped in the second round category at 22 or 24 (or whenever all of the "first rounders" are off the board).

For example, the Cowboys draft board for this past draft had only 18 players with first round grades. The player they took (Frederick) had a second round grade but was ranked #22 on their board.

giantsfan420
07-04-2013, 02:09 PM
interesting post TCHOF...know u were just using them as an example, but we should consider ourselvws lucky if we ended up doing something the opposite of how dallas would do it.

TCHOF
07-04-2013, 03:41 PM
interesting post TCHOF...know u were just using them as an example, but we should consider ourselvws lucky if we ended up doing something the opposite of how dallas would do it.

haha . . . agreed

B&RWarrior
07-04-2013, 04:27 PM
Translation, Brewer is a bust.


that's what I got