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RoanokeFan
07-05-2013, 12:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/26549/coach-talk-giunta-on-webster

Excerpt: "With the Giants off until training camp, we're periodically taking a look at what the coaches are saying about how their positions looked this offseason in OTAs.

Today, we look at Peter Giunta's thoughts on Corey Webster (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8457/corey-webster).

Cornerback Corey Webster made news in March when he agreed to take a $3 million pay cut (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9027601/corey-webster-new-york-giants-agrees-pay-cut-source) on his $7 million salary in order to remain a Giant going into the 2013 season. Secondary/cornerbacks coach Peter Giunta thinks Webster will be motivated to bounce back from a poor 2012.

"Definitely," Giunta said. "Finishing the way we did, everybody has a real sense of urgency this year to get back to playing the kind of football we did at the end of the 2011 season in that six-game stretch and playing that kind of defense."

The Giants finished 28th in total pass defense last season. Webster, taken in the second round of the 2005 draft, Prince Amukamara (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13975/prince-amukamara), Jayron Hosley (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14983/jayron-hosley) and Aaron Ross (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10464/aaron-ross) should form the backbone of the cornerback corps this season. Terrell Thomas (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11297/terrell-thomas) is rehabbing from his third ACL injury, a difficult situation from which to return to top competitive form. " Read more...

NYGabriel
07-05-2013, 12:34 PM
C Toaster is a worry. Hopefully he can get back to some kind of form but I think he'll be targeted this year. I'm sure teams are already drawing up plans to carve him up.

giantsfan420
07-05-2013, 12:55 PM
if there is one huge factor working in his/our favor, its that guys who were terrible last yr like Webster, can go back to 2011 and study their play and see they arent trash. i think guinta nailed it, theres a sense of urgency with how the D performed in 2012 and the desire to get back to that 6 game streak to close 2011, bc the D actually reached levels of dominance. So, these guys should have the belief in their ability to reach said levels again. Just gonna take hard work, which is honestly what I think was the issue last yr. Some guys DID get content on the 2011 SB and didnt put in the same work the following year.

giantscolombia
07-05-2013, 01:20 PM
http://whatdoumeme.com/media/created/uy1qp7.jpg

ryan12
07-05-2013, 01:25 PM
dont get me started on webster

appodictic
07-06-2013, 03:02 AM
Im closer to alot of plays then webster and I watch the games at my house. We better hope Ross and hosely can give us something.

TCHOF
07-06-2013, 08:42 AM
I knew that he dealt with injuries all year, but didn't know that he had a broken hand.

GameTime
07-06-2013, 09:33 AM
you know what....its a new season. I dont harp on players. Guy had a bad year.....so what. If he has the desire he will be back to playing much better

RoanokeFan
07-06-2013, 09:34 AM
http://whatdoumeme.com/media/created/uy1qp7.jpg

I don't know if I can agree with this :)

gumby74
07-06-2013, 12:34 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/giants/post/_/id/26549/coach-talk-giunta-on-webster

Excerpt: "With the Giants off until training camp, we're periodically taking a look at what the coaches are saying about how their positions looked this offseason in OTAs.

Today, we look at Peter Giunta's thoughts on Corey Webster (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8457/corey-webster).

Cornerback Corey Webster made news in March when he agreed to take a $3 million pay cut (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9027601/corey-webster-new-york-giants-agrees-pay-cut-source) on his $7 million salary in order to remain a Giant going into the 2013 season. Secondary/cornerbacks coach Peter Giunta thinks Webster will be motivated to bounce back from a poor 2012.

"Definitely," Giunta said. "Finishing the way we did, everybody has a real sense of urgency this year to get back to playing the kind of football we did at the end of the 2011 season in that six-game stretch and playing that kind of defense."

The Giants finished 28th in total pass defense last season. Webster, taken in the second round of the 2005 draft, Prince Amukamara (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13975/prince-amukamara), Jayron Hosley (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14983/jayron-hosley) and Aaron Ross (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10464/aaron-ross) should form the backbone of the cornerback corps this season. Terrell Thomas (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11297/terrell-thomas) is rehabbing from his third ACL injury, a difficult situation from which to return to top competitive form. " Read more...


Whoah. 3 million pay cut? I totally missed that.

RoanokeFan
07-06-2013, 12:43 PM
Whoah. 3 million pay cut? I totally missed that.

Some of these guys love playing here

TCHOF
07-06-2013, 12:52 PM
Some of these guys love playing here

Don't kid yourself. If he could have gotten the $3M somewhere else, he would have.

RoanokeFan
07-06-2013, 12:58 PM
Don't kid yourself. If he could have gotten the $3M somewhere else, he would have.

I am shocked you would take that position.

TCHOF
07-06-2013, 01:35 PM
I am shocked you would take that position.

I mean, do you really think that he thought that he could get his full salary somewhere else, but took a $3M pay cut because he likes it here so much????

RoanokeFan
07-06-2013, 01:38 PM
I mean, do you really think that he thought that he could get his full salary somewhere else, but took a $3M pay cut because he likes it here so much????

I think they told him what he needed to do to stay, and he took their offer. I don't know it he looked elsewhere or how much another team might have been willing to pay him.

foxie
07-06-2013, 01:54 PM
Unfortunately, Webster is Done!, a broken hand doesn't impact diminished coverage skills, Teams targeted Jason Sehorn his last 2 years, it was
pathetic, playing as a shell of his former self, A HOF Giant, but time takes it's toll, Webster can join Tuck going out the door @ the end of training camp, I hope. Talking a good game is not playing a good game, Oh, I'm Really going to take it up a notch this year....OK, show me game time...

Toadofsteel
07-06-2013, 02:09 PM
I'm still kind of surprised that some of the NFL talking heads are calling Prince the more questionable CB on our roster. Anyone who watched a game saw Webster getting targeted and burned... again, and again, and again. Prince was solid throughout. Even in 2011 when he was called to play, Joe Buck kept saying "Look for Rodgers to throw on this guy" everytime Prince was on the field, and Rodgers just plain couldn't. Prince is the only solid CB we have... Maybe not Revis, but solid is all we need.

BigBlue1971
07-06-2013, 02:14 PM
Webby needs a big time bounce back from last year. he took the same route as Tuck, you know, "we won a super bowl so lets take a year off" type attitude.

he knows no one will pay him as much as the Giants. even with the pay cut hes still in gravy.

I hope he can step up and be an impact on this defense. we need his experience.

joemorrisforprez
07-06-2013, 03:25 PM
I think Fewell needs to compare what worked and what failed from 2011 and 2012, respectively.

Some of it is the fault of players, and some of it is the fault of the schemes.

We can't have guys completely out of position like we had at critical points last season.....maybe players weren't playing, or coaches weren't coaching, but this defense was not on the same page last year.

It's most likely much more complicated, but maybe they can default back to the coverages that helped them in the 2nd half of 2011....I know they talked about simplifying things back then.

B&RWarrior
07-06-2013, 11:22 PM
CWeb will come back strong this year and shut all the haters up. Prepare to eat crow.

giantsfan420
07-07-2013, 01:44 AM
cweb was never really out of position (aside from the blown coverages) on those long passes he conceded most of the season. he usually was right on the WR's hip. for whatever reason, his head tracking towards the ball was very slow, as was his response time in getting his hands up. but, don't forget,he did have a hand injury most of last yr as well. that could be a reason for the issues getting his hands up and making a play on the ball.

because I went back and studied a lot of the passes Webster gave up, his coverage wasn't bad at all. it was his reaction time/play on the ball that was the issue. when he was able to get his hands up and make a play, he did and came away with a few ints even. i wouldnt be surprised at all if webster has a bounce back year.

giantsfan420
07-07-2013, 01:45 AM
Example of the above post would be the Ravens game, Torrey Smith kept on coming down with the passes but Webster was right there with him. if he'd just turn his head sooner or get his hands up faster, a ton of the completions he gave up woulda ended differently in our favor.