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hungrrrry
01-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Jacobs is big, bradshaw is tough and no one on this team is good...I'm not asking for adriane peterson just someone good

geonyg
01-01-2012, 11:52 PM
No one on this team is good?
We need to block more consistently at the point of attack. That'll help alot.

simms56
01-01-2012, 11:55 PM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.

Spizi
01-01-2012, 11:56 PM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

Tony Bruno
01-01-2012, 11:57 PM
We don't have an O that will focus on the run... We are a passing team... 3rd and 1 and we in shotgun to pass??? That's a sin!!!

jparmer
01-01-2012, 11:57 PM
I'm tired of watching our running backs run right into the line. We need some holes opened up!

ELIistheFRANCHISE
01-01-2012, 11:57 PM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

false.

Spizi
01-02-2012, 12:02 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

false.

Bradshaw, Ware, and Jacobs have 1385 rush yards this year. AP could definitely get 1100 yards no doubt.

ELIistheFRANCHISE
01-02-2012, 12:10 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

false.

Bradshaw, Ware, and Jacobs have 1385 rush yards this year. AP could definitely get 1100 yards no doubt.

Barry sanders couldnt break 1k behind this line. You always make statements with no logic/facts/reasoning to back it up. give it a rest.

nycisgreat
01-02-2012, 12:11 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


+10000000000000

nycisgreat
01-02-2012, 12:13 AM
When David Baas was out, the line was more physical. He is a good pass blocker, but terrible on run plays.

simms56
01-02-2012, 12:18 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

So you don't see any difference between this year's line and the line from 2007-2008? Gilbride's inability to be creative in the run game is a given, but Jacobs and Bradshaw do not have close to the room to operate they had a couple years ago. I'm not saying they are the be all end all answer, and they don't read holes well at times, but they are not as bog a problem as the line, the lack of a blocking TE, and the mediocrity of Hynoski and the play calling.

simms56
01-02-2012, 12:19 AM
When David Baas was out, the line was more physical. He is a good pass blocker, but terrible on run plays.


Yup, the coaching staff's inability to go with the better players regardless of loyalty and pay scale is appalling. Petrus played very well in the run game.

hungrrrry
01-02-2012, 12:34 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.
yes they are...more than once in this game I saw bradhsaw change direction because a defender in the backfield was closing so he ran into a d-lineman...at least run past the line before juking a guy on the other side of it

appodictic
01-02-2012, 02:07 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud. But your forgetting that AP has suffered a very bad injury. AB and BJ might be chipped up but they have ran longer and better now.

ow and BTW ap had 4 fumbles in a game and blew his teams shot at a championships. Our guys a clutch not choke artists aka AP and tony romo.

appodictic
01-02-2012, 02:08 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud. But your forgetting that AP has suffered a very bad injury. AB and BJ might be chipped up but they have ran longer and better now.

ow and BTW ap had 4 fumbles in a game and blew his teams shot at a championships. Our guys a clutch not choke artists aka AP and tony romo.
could you imagine if a giants running back had 4 fumbles in a game? We would run him out of town.

Spizi
01-02-2012, 02:22 AM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

false.

Bradshaw, Ware, and Jacobs have 1385 rush yards this year. AP could definitely get 1100 yards no doubt.

Barry sanders couldnt break 1k behind this line. You always make statements with no logic/facts/reasoning to back it up. give it a rest.

How is there no logic in that post? Adrian Peterson is (was after the acl tear) the best runningback in the league and has been for the past couple years. If we had AP he would get the majority of the carries (about 300) and he is superior to our runningbacks. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that he could definitely rush for 1200 yards.

Bohemian
01-02-2012, 02:41 AM
I have to say that it is obvious that the problem is with the offensive line, mainly because these are the same running backs that we had during our days of dominating the rushing ranks for so many seasons. I have a feeling that it is just a matter of time before Coughlin has our paving highways for our backs once again.

I always laugh when I hear Rex Ryan talk about 'ground and pound' because the only grounding anything for him are his own pounds, so he should just stand back and watch how the real New York team builds a running game.

Landshark
01-02-2012, 02:45 AM
Jacobs is big, bradshaw is tough and no one on this team is good...I'm not asking for adriane peterson just someone good

Wrong... We need an offensive line that doesn't get smoked at the line. We need an OL that creates lanes. We need an OC who isn't the most predictable play caller in the NFL... Fix the line, replace Gilbride and AB and BJ go over 1000 each...

Spizi
01-02-2012, 03:15 AM
I have to say that it is obvious that the problem is with the offensive line, mainly because these are the same running backs that we had during our days of dominating the rushing ranks for so many seasons.* I have a feeling that it is just a matter of time before Coughlin has our paving highways for our backs once again.

I always laugh when I hear Rex Ryan talk about 'ground and pound' because the only grounding anything for him are his own pounds, so he should just stand back and watch how the real New York team builds a running game.


They might be the same runningbacks but they're also 3 years older from our "days of dominating" that's a lifetime in rb years.

gumby742
01-02-2012, 09:00 AM
With this oline? I'd spend my money elsewhere.

ELIistheFRANCHISE
01-02-2012, 06:19 PM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

false.

Bradshaw, Ware, and Jacobs have 1385 rush yards this year. AP could definitely get 1100 yards no doubt.

Barry sanders couldnt break 1k behind this line. You always make statements with no logic/facts/reasoning to back it up. give it a rest.

How is there no logic in that post? Adrian Peterson is (was after the acl tear) the best runningback in the league and has been for the past couple years. If we had AP he would get the majority of the carries (about 300) and he is superior to our runningbacks. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that he could definitely rush for 1200 yards.
DEFINATELY? Wow. You ask RB's what they need most. A solid OL. No logic, you just think that since AP is a great RB he could do great things here, but without a good OL, no one is running 1200 plus.

Spizi
01-02-2012, 06:48 PM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.


Adrian Peterson would still rush for 1200 yards with this oline. We need a stud.

false.

Bradshaw, Ware, and Jacobs have 1385 rush yards this year. AP could definitely get 1100 yards no doubt.

Barry sanders couldnt break 1k behind this line. You always make statements with no logic/facts/reasoning to back it up. give it a rest.

How is there no logic in that post? Adrian Peterson is (was after the acl tear) the best runningback in the league and has been for the past couple years. If we had AP he would get the majority of the carries (about 300) and he is superior to our runningbacks. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that he could definitely rush for 1200 yards.
DEFINATELY? Wow. You ask RB's what they need most. A solid OL. No logic, you just think that since AP is a great RB he could do great things here, but without a good OL, no one is running 1200 plus.

AP would have around 300 carries if he was on our team as a feature back. If Ahmad Bradshaw is averaging 3.9 ypc with this offensive line, and AP being a superior player he would without a doubt average at least 4.0 ypc. 4X300=1200 yards... logic

hungrrrry
01-02-2012, 07:12 PM
I have to say that it is obvious that the problem is with the offensive line, mainly because these are the same running backs that we had during our days of dominating the rushing ranks for so many seasons.* I have a feeling that it is just a matter of time before Coughlin has our paving highways for our backs once again.

I always laugh when I hear Rex Ryan talk about 'ground and pound' because the only grounding anything for him are his own pounds, so he should just stand back and watch how the real New York team builds a running game.


They might be the same runningbacks but they're also 3 years older from our "days of dominating" that's a lifetime in rb years.exactly! These guys lack explosion and speed...what we have now is Big Dayne and Small Dayne (Ron Dayne). Barry Sanders did awesome even without an Oline throughout his entire career. I am not looking for that but I am hoping we can get a back or better, two, that can improvise on the fly if needed. If the hole isn't there, find one or make one. Don't just give up. Run with power but smart.
I agree the run blocking isn't what it has been but neither is AB after his injury issues and Jacobs body just can't do it like it used to. Ware has the explosion and size but isn't a smart RB either and doesn't see the holes

mikeq672
01-02-2012, 07:51 PM
RB's are not the problem, the line doesn't get much push most of the time.
yes they are...more than once in this game I saw bradhsaw change direction because a defender in the backfield was closing so he ran into a d-lineman...at least run past the line before juking a guy on the other side of it

Am I the only one that sees that this statement sums up these idiots perfectly? "Bradshaw change direction because a defender is in the backfield" There should not be a defender in the backfield before Bradshaw gets the ball, that is the ****ing problem, not Bradshaw. Some of you are unbelievably clueless.

yoeddy
01-02-2012, 07:56 PM
I think that the problem we have at HB is that both Jacobs and Bradshaw are more specialists than they are generalists. Derrick Ward was actually a good all-around HB, and he was able to be successful because he gave the offense a lot of options...running, blocking, catching. As much as I love Jacobs and Bradshaw, neither is the HB that you can just put in the game and leave him there. Honestly, DJ Ware is closer to being that kind of HB than anyone else we have on the roster, and I'd actually like to see him get the shot of being the feature guy...