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Redzone42
01-04-2012, 07:06 AM
The #4 NFC seed is 1-14 in the divisional rounds. Because every year is different it doesn't mean much, but that record is still horrible. How much do you think it will apply to the <font color="#000000">Giants</font>? Are our chances that bad once we get to the divisional round? The Packers and 49ers don't really scare me as much as the Saints do, so I think that record will change to 2-14 very soon!!

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stormblue
01-04-2012, 08:41 AM
that is obviously because the #4 seed always draws the #1 seed in the divisional round.

and traditionally ; the #4 seed is the worst team in the playoffs . they usually have a worse record than one or both of the 2 wild card teams.
so when #1 seed plays (at home after a week
of rest) the #4 seed that is usually the worst team in the tournament.......my only question there would be ; who the heck was the only #1 seed to choke.?

in fact they usually lose to the wild card team and don't even make it to the divisional round.

so lets see ,
45 years of superbowls,
so that means that 30 times the #4 did not even beat the wild card team.

that's why the lousy record for the #4 seed.
they are usually the weakest team of the 6 ,
and would not have made the playoffs if they were not in the weakest division in any given year.
2 two thirds of the time the #5 seed kicks out the #4 seed in the wild card round.

this year , it's the NFC LEAST.
and we are this years" #4.

Gav_devils#56
01-04-2012, 08:59 AM
that is obviously because the #4 seed always draws the #1 seed in the divisional round.

agree with most of your post. this bit however is wrong.

if #4 and #6 win then 4 plays 2 rather than 1

miked1958
01-04-2012, 09:24 AM
that is obviously because the #4 seed always draws the #1 seed in the divisional round.

agree with most of your post. this bit however is wrong.

if #4 and #6 win then 4 plays 2 rather than 1
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correct.. so then the number 6 would play the number 1</P>


this senario would only hold true in all of those 15 games if it was 1-14 record for number 4 teams in Div round vs either the number 1or number 2 seed in that first round.. it cant be all number 1s</P>

miked1958
01-04-2012, 09:27 AM
that is obviously because the #4 seed always draws the #1 seed in the divisional round.

agree with most of your post. this bit however is wrong.

if #4 and #6 win then 4 plays 2 rather than 1
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okay i see the mistake now and u already answered it above. </P>


The original quote was wrong that the #4 seed ALWAYS plays the #1 seed.</P>


Not true if number 6 wins their game. IN this years senario we would only play GB if #3 Saints beat the #6 lions. That would send the Saints out to SF and us up to GB in Div round.</P>


If the #6 Lions win being the lowest seed they would travel over to GB and we would go West and face the #2 seed Niners</P>

miked1958
01-04-2012, 09:30 AM
However he is right that the #4 STINKS vs 1s and 2s in DIV round. </P>


and we would need to CHANGE that.....</P>


With that said. You asked who was the one #1or 2 team that lost that lone div round game to the number 4.....</P>


would have to research it but it would not be us in 07 or Gb last year. both of us went through as 5 and 6 seeds upsetting the number 1s and 2s. </P>


would have to look so see who that lone # 4 was.</P>

tripleaamin9
01-04-2012, 09:35 AM
it was 2008 when the #4 seeded Cardinals beat the #2 Panthers in the divisional.

miked1958
01-04-2012, 09:37 AM
it was 2008 when the #4 seeded Cardinals beat the #2 Panthers in the divisional.
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okay.have not found any otherNFC ones other then the Cards but..looking at AFC its happend a few times. In the 06/07 season when the Pats were the #4 seed out of the AFC. They beat the Jets 37-16 on WC weekend. they then traveled to #1 SD Chargers in Div Round and won that game 24-21...</P>

ebick
01-04-2012, 09:42 AM
That's all good, but let's take a quick review of the #1 seeds in the NFC over the past several years, shall we?</P>


2010 - Atlanta Falcons, 1 &amp; Done</P>


2009 - New Orealns Saints, Won the SB</P>


2008 - New York Giants, 1 &amp; Done</P>


2007 - Dallas Cowboys, 1 &amp; Done</P>


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miked1958
01-04-2012, 09:47 AM
it was 2008 when the #4 seeded Cardinals beat the #2 Panthers in the divisional.
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okay. then what about the 06/07 season when the Pats were the #4 seed out of the AFC. They beat the Jets 37-16 on WC weekend. they then traveled to #1 SD Chargers in Div Round and won that game 24-21...</P>


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The Pats did it in 06/07.. then i didnt see any for awhile scanning through but then found another one..</P>


2000-01 Season #4 Baltimore (eventual SB Champ over US) beat the #1 Seed SD Chargers.. LOL. thats the 2nd time in this little excercise that we saw that SD was a victim in DIV round to number 4 Seeds. </P>


Found another one. In the 1999-2000 Season. The #4 TENN Titans beat the #2 Colts in the DIV round. but still all AFC</P>


1997-98 the #4 seed Broncos beat #1 Seed KC</P>


So.. yep.... went back 16/17 seasons and didnt see where another NFC Team that was a #4 beat the number 1 or 2 seed in all those years except for those 08 Cardinals. Interesting. even if you look at both the Afc and Nfc going back that far its only happend 4or5 times TOTAL out of like 28or 30 chances for the #4 in DIV round... WOW</P>


Records are made to be broken but i think we are getting way ahead of ourselves here.</P>


We need to worry about this 4/5 game first and I dont think the Falcons are going to come in and lay down for us so we can have a shot at being only the 2nd team in a decade and a half to win in DIV round as an NFC #4 Seed. LOL.</P>


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miked1958
01-04-2012, 10:02 AM
That's all good, but let's take a quick review of the #1 seeds in the NFC over the past several years, shall we?</P>


2010 - Atlanta Falcons, 1 &amp; Done</P>


2009 - New Orealns Saints, Won the SB</P>


2008 - New York Giants, 1 &amp; Done</P>


2007 - Dallas Cowboys, 1 &amp; Done</P>


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Yep. last few seasons have not been good to the teams with the bye week off in the NFC as you have shown and even in the AFC. They come out flat and the WC teams that got hot making the run into the playoffs knocked them out. Some of the 2s also got booted from the Dance that had the Bye.</P>


Prob is alot of these top teams are so far ahead of everyone towards the end of the year they are not playing any meaningful games and are sitting starters last few games (one of the reasons why the NFL made the change where you have to play Div Rivals the last few weeks of the year) and then get that week off and they STINK when they come out that first playoff game. Prob cuase they have not played a real meaningful game in over a month. especially if they have run away with their DIV... Like the Packer and SF and even the Saints this year. WATCH OUT FOR THE GMEN&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</P>

stormblue
01-04-2012, 11:23 AM
so after all is said and done,

the fact still remains that .........

the #4 NFC seed has NEVER won the Superbowl.

so we have a chance to be the first team to ever do it.

go big blue
( or should i say "go road red", unfortunately)