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Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:02 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.


Victor Cruz Was Second In Yac For People With 50+ Catches... Only behind Julio Jones

BigBlue wins
01-06-2012, 12:04 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.

sack fumble. enter jpp

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:06 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:07 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.

sack fumble. enter jpp
</P>


Lol yup or Osi, or Tuck or Kiwi or Canty[;)]</P>

BigBlue wins
01-06-2012, 12:08 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.

sack fumble. enter jpp
</p>


Lol yup or Osi, or Tuck or Kiwi or Canty[;)]</p>

Actually, the sack fumble is Osi's trademark. He hits the QB just right for the fumble.

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:13 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>

Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:16 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


Nhamdi couldn't contain Cruz and neither could Cromartie or Revis. Grimes is a solid CB no doubt but he just had knee surgery a few weeks back. I don't think it is even remotely possible that he is 100%. I'll take my chances with Cruz in that match-up every day of the week and twice on Sunday.</P>

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:19 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</P>

TrueBlue07
01-06-2012, 12:20 PM
so basically what this Falcon fan is telling us is that if we make a TINY assumption that an NFL player will not get hurt during a season, and plays a full game, every game...that the player is good.

Fantastic.

If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:20 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


Nhamdi couldn't contain Cruz and neither could Cromartie or Revis. Grimes is a solid CB no doubt but he just had knee surgery a few weeks back. I don't think it is even remotely possible that he is 100%. I'll take my chances with Cruz in that match-up every day of the week and twice on Sunday.</P>

Good points, but Nhamdi isnt who he was in Oakland, multiple WR blew him up this year.

and the jets? we both know how terrible there locker room is and that was brought onto the field. I will give Cruz credit he has had a great year.

With Grimes, its not gonna be about how well he runs with cruz because he will have help over the top, its going to be how he baits Eli into an interception.

Matt C
01-06-2012, 12:22 PM
Well if you take Eli's Jersey number, and multiply it by 10, you get 100. Minus the number of drops, and times that by 4.6, then minus it by 16 for the amount of games in a season, + the fact that the Giants play in New Jersey which was the 3rd state to enter the union, you have to times that number (3) by the amount of hotdog guys in the stadium, and take that number and subtract 5, you start seeing Eli could have had a much better season. And if you take that number and times it by the amount of TD's he threw, and add the amount of dropped TD's then divide that number by Tom C's age, plus 21 because thats the drinking age in this country, you see Eli should be the MVP with 12,09303 Yards, 93 TD's, and -7 Int.

You can make up all the fake stats you want to sir, see you on sunday.

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:24 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


Nhamdi couldn't contain Cruz and neither could Cromartie or Revis. Grimes is a solid CB no doubt but he just had knee surgery a few weeks back. I don't think it is even remotely possible that he is 100%. I'll take my chances with Cruz in that match-up every day of the week and twice on Sunday.</P>


Good points, but Nhamdi isnt who he was in Oakland, multiple WR blew him up this year. and the jets? we both know how terrible there locker room is and that was brought onto the field. I will give Cruz credit he has had a great year. With Grimes, its not gonna be about how well he runs with cruz because he will have help over the top, its going to be how he baits Eli into an interception.</P>


That I agree with. Over the top help is really not going to make much difference anyway as Cruz has beaten that all season longanyway. It is on Eli to be as sharp and crisp as he has been for most of the season. Not fall for the baiting he will most definitely encounter and throwing the ball only where his WR can catch it no matter the coverage.</P>

Providence
01-06-2012, 12:24 PM
I'm not trying to knock you here, but extrapolating stats to reflect a years worth of production is a ludicrous way to make a point when dealing with a game like football, in a league as competitive as the NFL.

That's just my two cents of course.

Didn't Atlanta give up 13 sacks in 4 games at the begining of the season? If indeed they did, then it would be just as unfair to say that Atlanta is a 52 sacks allowed/year team.

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:24 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</P>

Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand.

Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence

b_ELI_eve
01-06-2012, 12:27 PM
I am way more worried about shutting down Turner. Matt Ryan's playoff record speaks for itself. We shut down Turner and our pass rush will take care of the rest.

There is no question our offense will put up points. It all comes down to our dline showing up

TrueBlue07
01-06-2012, 12:27 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</p>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</p>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</p>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</p>

Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand.

Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence

Romo couldn't stay on his feet, but Ryan, who doesn't move as well in the pocket, and doesn't scramble as well, will have no problems.


Ugh, it's one thing to talk unbiased football, but if you want to look at the game through Falcon red colored glasses hit up the freakin' Falcons forum!

Sundown
01-06-2012, 12:28 PM
This game couldn't come soon enough, sigh.....

jjj45
01-06-2012, 12:28 PM
Well if you take Eli's Jersey number, and multiply it by 10, you get 100. Minus the number of drops, and times that by 4.6, then minus it by 16 for the amount of games in a season, + the fact that the Giants play in New Jersey which was the 3rd state to enter the union, you have to times that number (3) by the amount of hotdog guys in the stadium, and take that number and subtract 5, you start seeing Eli could have had a much better season. And if you take that number and times it by the amount of TD's he threw, and add the amount of dropped TD's then divide that number by Tom C's age, plus 21 because thats the drinking age in this country, you see Eli should be the MVP with 12,09303 Yards, 93 TD's, and -7 Int.

You can make up all the fake stats you want to sir, see you on sunday.lmao best post ever!

jjj45
01-06-2012, 12:30 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</p>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</p>Dun dun DUNNN!

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:31 PM
I'm not trying to knock you here, but extrapolating stats to reflect a years worth of production is a ludicrous way to make a point when dealing with a game like football, in a league as competitive as the NFL.

That's just my two cents of course.

Didn't Atlanta give up 13 sacks in 4 games at the begining of the season? If indeed they did, then it would be just as unfair to say that Atlanta is a 52 sacks allowed/year team.

Fair enough put his "stats" aside, Just his physical attributes alone, I don't think you have anyone on your defence that can match up to him. Dude ran a 4.39 on a broken foot and can most likely out jump any of your DB's for a jump ball

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:31 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</P>


Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand. Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence</P>


Few TE's this season other than Graham down in New Orleans diddamage against the Giants this year even when Boley was hurt. This includes Finley in GB, Celek in Philly, Davis in Washington, Davis in SFand yes even Gronkowski and Hernandez in New England and more. Gonzo will be a big challenge though no doubt. Giants have beaten max protect with ease the last two weeks and they are mixing upand disguising zone coverages. If Atlanta gives Ryan the time and is not harassed like the Giants can do it will be a tough one for the Giants to win. I can at least admit that.</P>

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:32 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</p>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</p>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</p>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</p>

Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand.

Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence

Romo couldn't stay on his feet, but Ryan, who doesn't move as well in the pocket, and doesn't scramble as well, will have no problems.


Ugh, it's one thing to talk unbiased football, but if you want to look at the game through Falcon red colored glasses hit up the freakin' Falcons forum!


Ryan also gets the ball out much faster than Blowmo. I went over there but its boring and wanted some people who only see through the blue colored glasses to give some feedback.

TrueBlue07
01-06-2012, 12:34 PM
The Giants have the best strength of victory of any playoff team.

The Falcons have the 6th best strength of victory of all playoff teams.

They've beaten hardly anyone. If those scrub teams can some how figure out how to hold down ATLs WRs and Gonzo, I think SOME HOW the Giants will be ok.


Source:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:36 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</P>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</P>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</P>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</P>


Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand. Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence</P>


Few TE's this season other than Graham down in New Orleans did*damage against the Giants this year even when Boley was hurt. This includes Finley in GB, Celek in Philly, Davis in Washington and yes even Gronkowski and Hernandez in New England and more. Gonzo will be a big challenge though no doubt. Giants have beaten max protect with ease the last two weeks and they are mixing up*and disguising zone coverages. If Atlanta gives Ryan the time and is not harassed like the Giants can do it will be a tough one for the Giants to win. I can at least admit that.</P>

I 100% agree with you, the two biggest issues I think in this game will be Giants Pass Rush and Turnovers for Eli and Ryan. Both Eli Ryan make very few mistakes and who ever wins the turn over battle should win the game.

If the giants get the pass rush going early and often odds are Ryan will have the higher turn over ratio.

TrueBlue07
01-06-2012, 12:36 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.</p>


Other than the TD's number, those are basically Victor Cruz's exact numbers. So my question to you is, how do you stop that?</p>


Brent Grimes from What I understand you will have CWebb on Roddy and Ross on Julio? that cant be good for the Giants</p>


No way will Ross always be on Jones one on one for the entire game. Giants don't play exclusively man coverage. They play zone more than anything with man press mixed in and have done more man press the last two weeks. Jones is a huge threat no doubt but the pass rush and different coverage looks will help contain him and White as well as Gonzalez.</p>

Very good point, but if you double Jones then White will be 1 on 1 and gonzo shouldn't have any problem with Boley. He stopped witten last week but Romo couldnt stay on his feet and had a f'd up hand.

Clearly we will have max protection on Ryan giving him some more time to pick apart a zone defence

Romo couldn't stay on his feet, but Ryan, who doesn't move as well in the pocket, and doesn't scramble as well, will have no problems.


Ugh, it's one thing to talk unbiased football, but if you want to look at the game through Falcon red colored glasses hit up the freakin' Falcons forum!


Ryan also gets the ball out much faster than Blowmo. I went over there but its boring and wanted some people who only see through the blue colored glasses to give some feedback.


Just make sure you show up back on the boards after the game, regardless of the outcome. I've seen the ATL boards, so unless you want to find pictures of Giants players celebrating and come up with a catchy caption of how that makes them g.a.y. you won't be missing much over there.

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:38 PM
The Giants have the best strength of victory of any playoff team.

The Falcons have the 6th best strength of victory of all playoff teams.

They've beaten hardly anyone. If those scrub teams can some how figure out how to hold down ATLs WRs and Gonzo, I think SOME HOW the Giants will be ok.


Source:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true


Sure but all of those teams had better DB's than the giants, you ranked 29th in the league for pass def

RoanokeFan
01-06-2012, 12:41 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.


Victor Cruz Was Second In Yac For People With 50+ Catches... Only behind Julio Jones

What is it you want stopped?

TrueBlue07
01-06-2012, 12:42 PM
The Giants have the best strength of victory of any playoff team.

The Falcons have the 6th best strength of victory of all playoff teams.

They've beaten hardly anyone. If those scrub teams can some how figure out how to hold down ATLs WRs and Gonzo, I think SOME HOW the Giants will be ok.


Source:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true


Sure but all of those teams had better DB's than the giants, you ranked 29th in the league for pass def

And all of those teams had a worse pass rush than the Giants..........See, you're not the only one who can play this game.



and please, if you're going to call Tony Romo "Blowmo" never call your QB "Matty Ice"....Romo has a ton of flaws, as well as 1 playoff win, which is 1 more than this dude who is nicknamed "Ice" some how, before he has won a playoff game lol.

Sundown
01-06-2012, 12:42 PM
I'm not trying to knock you here, but extrapolating stats to reflect a years worth of production is a ludicrous way to make a point when dealing with a game like football, in a league as competitive as the NFL.

That's just my two cents of course.

Didn't Atlanta give up 13 sacks in 4 games at the begining of the season? If indeed they did, then it would be just as unfair to say that Atlanta is a 52 sacks allowed/year team.

Fair enough put his "stats" aside, Just his physical attributes alone, I don't think you have anyone on your defence that can match up to him. Dude ran a 4.39 on a broken foot and can most likely out jump any of your DB's for a jump ball

He's a good player but no one fears him. He's not randy moss. This game will be won or lost in the trenches. Good luck w your oline and immobile QB

Providence
01-06-2012, 12:44 PM
I'm not trying to knock you here, but extrapolating stats to reflect a years worth of production is a ludicrous way to make a point when dealing with a game like football, in a league as competitive as the NFL.

That's just my two cents of course.

Didn't Atlanta give up 13 sacks in 4 games at the begining of the season? If indeed they did, then it would be just as unfair to say that Atlanta is a 52 sacks allowed/year team.

Fair enough put his "stats" aside, Just his physical attributes alone, I don't think you have anyone on your defence that can match up to him. Dude ran a 4.39 on a broken foot and can most likely out jump any of your DB's for a jump ball

His is very talented and a big threat to our secondary. There is no arguing that. I am definitely fearful of what he could do. But I think the title of your thread should have been "I think Julio Jones is excellent and you don't have anyone that can stop them." That way you have would said what your truly felt, rather than hiding your feelings in a bogus stat analysis.

repeatchamps
01-06-2012, 12:46 PM
The Giants have the best strength of victory of any playoff team.

The Falcons have the 6th best strength of victory of all playoff teams.

They've beaten hardly anyone. If those scrub teams can some how figure out how to hold down ATLs WRs and Gonzo, I think SOME HOW the Giants will be ok.


Source:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true
Sure but all of those teams had better DB's than the giants, you ranked 29th in the league for pass def</P>


The Giants pass defense is a major weakness only when that pass rush is not steamrolling and the LB'ers and secondary play too many confusing zone coverages. They have simplified it more the last two games so that the only confusion occurring is coming from the opponent's offense and not our own defense lol. There is also a lot more man-press going on than earlier in the year. Look at the Giants defense the last two weeks. That's what Atlanta is going to get.</P>

Rudyy
01-06-2012, 12:50 PM
The Giants have the best strength of victory of any playoff team.

The Falcons have the 6th best strength of victory of all playoff teams.

They've beaten hardly anyone. If those scrub teams can some how figure out how to hold down ATLs WRs and Gonzo, I think SOME HOW the Giants will be ok.


Source:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true
Sure but all of those teams had better DB's than the giants, you ranked 29th in the league for pass def</P>


The Giants pass defense is a major weakness only when that pass rush is not steamrolling and the LB'ers and secondary play too many confusing zone coverages. They have simplified it more the last two games so that the only confusion occurring is coming from the opponent's offense and not our own defense lol. There is also a lot more man-press going on than earlier in the year. Look at the Giants defense the last two weeks. That's what Atlanta is going to get.</P> ^This.

jjj45
01-06-2012, 12:51 PM
I read your post and all I thought about was this

http://jgtwo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/gonzo1.jpg

Gonzo88
01-06-2012, 12:57 PM
I read your post and all I thought about was this

http://jgtwo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/gonzo1.jpg



Perfect that was my intent lol keep your minds off of the future H.O.F

scf424
01-06-2012, 01:50 PM
You stop that by getting a lead, which the Giants will, and letting the dogs rush the passer.

Sarcasman
01-06-2012, 02:37 PM
The Giants have the best strength of victory of any playoff team.

The Falcons have the 6th best strength of victory of all playoff teams.

They've beaten hardly anyone. If those scrub teams can some how figure out how to hold down ATLs WRs and Gonzo, I think SOME HOW the Giants will be ok.


Source:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type/playoffs/sort/strengthOfVictory/order/true


Sure but all of those teams had better DB's than the giants, you ranked 29th in the league for pass def


You're right, the Giants can't stop it. The Falcons will obviously win so frankly, I don't even know why they're even bothering to play this game.

giantsforce
01-08-2012, 05:16 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.


Victor Cruz Was Second In Yac For People With 50+ Catches... Only behind Julio JonesHey Gonzo, did you get your answer or do we need to explain it to you?

miked1958
01-08-2012, 05:26 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.


Victor Cruz Was Second In Yac For People With 50+ Catches... Only behind Julio JonesHey Gonzo, did you get your answer or do we need to explain it to you?
Lol. That's how u STOP it baby.... Pitch a shutout against an offense that put up 45 points last week.....

The only points your high powered Ryan, Julio, tony, turner, roddy could get was...............

That right eli gave u your only two pts of game on safety. And that made it 2-0. Outscored 24-0 rest of game even though u got all the close calls.
Could have been alot worse had they gave us that first down prior to half and when nicks was mugged on goal line and no call

giantsforce
01-08-2012, 05:34 PM
You have to twist Julio Jones' numbers a bit to make it work, and assume he'll be healthy in the future, but if you take the last six games the rookie dynamo has started and finished -- which excludes Atlanta's first game against New Orleans -- and lay the average out over a full 16-game season, you get 72 catches, 1,579 yards and 21 touchdowns. The yardage figure would be in the top 20 all-time, and the touchdowns would only be outranked by Jerry Rice in 1987 and Randy Moss in 2007.


Victor Cruz Was Second In Yac For People With 50+ Catches... Only behind Julio JonesHey Gonzo, did you get your answer or do we need to explain it to you?
Lol. That's how u STOP it baby.... Pitch a shutout against an offense that put up 45 points last week.....

The only points your high powered Ryan, Julio, tony, turner, roddy could get was...............

That right eli gave u your only two pts of game on safety. And that made it 2-0. Outscored 24-0 rest of game even though u got all the close calls.
Could have been alot worse had they gave us that first down prior to half and when nicks was mugged on goal line and no callYes, it seems that the NFL did not want the Falcons to get embarrassed too much so they decided to help them as much as they could. The problem is that the Falcons couldn't do much anyway.

derekunion28
01-08-2012, 05:52 PM
eli thinking it was a 1st and missed fg woulda made the score loook even worse