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DragonSoul
01-09-2012, 02:03 AM
He was the one who drafted Eli and many went crazy (in a bad way)

He also added Kiwi and Tuck and people thought he was crazy since we still had Strahan and Osi.

He not only set up the template for us, but for Reese. As Reese added JPP last year when JPP was available, and everyone thought it was a pretty risky move at worst, and at best it would take time to develop the talent.

EA helped us in 07 and his strings that he strung are making some music in 11.

Thank you EA... I remember how many people would knock him.

Firenugget
01-09-2012, 02:08 AM
Yeah he gets some credit for sure but honestly I think our culture/system of bringing guys along has alot more to do with players playing well than great picks alone. I mean it all plays a part in the end.

DragonSoul
01-09-2012, 02:12 AM
One main stay in this league, whether its 40 years ago or in todays NFL, the QB wins games and so does a pass rushing defensive line, and that is what he taught JR.

Also in 07, and especially in todays NFL. The defensive line can have such a huge affect on the QBs, while other defensive positions cannot have such a big impact on the qb nearly as much as the defensive line, and with the way the nfl is today, that is HUGE especially on some of these qbs, as we saw in 07 vs Brady.

poppa smurph
01-09-2012, 02:14 AM
I know I've said it before, but, if you like to read ( even on the crapper ),EA's book " The GM ", is excellant.</P>


It's a great insight into a GM's mind, as well as a good read into the man himself.</P>

NWKEffectElement
01-09-2012, 03:55 AM
Kick rocks man. He has been gone for about 5 years now. It was Reese who traveled the country and was on the road 90% of the year in order to bring talents like Tuck, Kiwi, and BJ in at the time. EA's last decision was Eli and he can get that. How dare you try to give him props for JPP!!! I guess EA was responsible for KP, AB, MM, Cruz, Nicks, Boley, Ballard, Pascoe, Rolle, Canty, LJ, HH, and TT also. GTFOH!!!

The Reese hate on here is laughable.

Gav_devils#56
01-09-2012, 04:57 AM
I know I've said it before, but, if you like to read ( even on the crapper ),EA's book " The GM ", is excellant.</p>


It's a great insight into a GM's mind, as well as a good read into the man himself.</p>

i echo this sentiment. i picked it up when i was last in the states, good read.

he did get a ring in 07 so they did recognise his effort and give him credit

DragonSoul
01-09-2012, 06:55 AM
Kick rocks man. He has been gone for about 5 years now. It was Reese who traveled the country and was on the road 90% of the year in order to bring talents like Tuck, Kiwi, and BJ in at the time. EA's last decision was Eli and he can get that. How dare you try to give him props for JPP!!! I guess EA was responsible for KP, AB, MM, Cruz, Nicks, Boley, Ballard, Pascoe, Rolle, Canty, LJ, HH, and TT also. GTFOH!!!

The Reese hate on here is laughable.You miss reading what I have wrote is Laughable. Him giving JR the template to get a DE is due to him.

No one spoke of other positions. I have not based any of his moves, well ok BAAS might be one of the only moves.

So not sure what you are smoking, or getting your panties in a bunch for.

BornBrooklyn
01-09-2012, 07:41 AM
He did fail with Cedric Jones... Ray Lewis was available...

NYG 5
01-09-2012, 08:12 AM
He did fail with Cedric Jones... Ray Lewis was available...

actually that was George Young.

EA set the template, but he had a lot of growing pains, between neglecting special teams and letting the offensive line walk after 2002, or his atrocious late round draft picks.

but yes, he does deserve credit for laying the foundations for this modern day pass rushing defensive line.

MikeSherrard
01-09-2012, 08:21 AM
The template has really been set by the Maras and trickled down. The organization as a whole is very stable and consistent. They do not waver from the their laurels and priorities.

Other then the Steelers and Packers, I am struggling to think of a more consistent organization!

As always (even when we stink!) I am proud to be a fan of this team!

DragonSoul
01-09-2012, 08:27 AM
He did fail with Cedric Jones... Ray Lewis was available...

actually that was George Young.

EA set the template, but he had a lot of growing pains, between neglecting special teams and letting the offensive line walk after 2002, or his atrocious late round draft picks.

but yes, he does deserve credit for laying the foundations for this modern day pass rushing defensive line.
They all have their issues. No doubt. But it was a great job by him. You can argue the LB spot for Reese and oline to a degree. Even though I am a reese fan and support him.

Morehead State
01-09-2012, 08:37 AM
Kick rocks man. He has been gone for about 5 years now. It was Reese who traveled the country and was on the road 90% of the year in order to bring talents like Tuck, Kiwi, and BJ in at the time. EA's last decision was Eli and he can get that. How dare you try to give him props for JPP!!! I guess EA was responsible for KP, AB, MM, Cruz, Nicks, Boley, Ballard, Pascoe, Rolle, Canty, LJ, HH, and TT also. GTFOH!!! The Reese hate on here is laughable.</P>


Where was the "Reece hate" in this thread?</P>


Or are you one of those guys who think that if you praise one guy, you are tearing down another?</P>

Mercury
01-09-2012, 08:42 AM
I think EA taught Reese a lot. And I also think JR, and his skills at evaluating talent, made EA look good, too.

DragonSoul
01-09-2012, 08:46 AM
I think EA taught Reese a lot.* And I also think JR, and his skills at evaluating talent, made EA look good, too.
Agreed. EA taught him what was important, but JR knew what to look for when he did look for it.

Only knock is our perpetual need for a LB. Unless one of the young rookie LBs work out. Obviously time will tell. Apparently Williams may have taken the next step from what people are starting to say. Hope so. We really need another great LB besides Boley. I think Kiwi could be the hybrid if we keep him passed this year.

DragonSoul
01-09-2012, 08:48 AM
I think EA taught Reese a lot.* And I also think JR, and his skills at evaluating talent, made EA look good, too.
It is actually funny. I remember few gave credit to EA and said it was all JRS scouting.

Then when EA left, it was all EAs teaching that helped JR, and that EA built the team.

In truth, it is what you wrote, and felt the same way all along.

elismom
01-09-2012, 09:10 AM
Kick rocks man. He has been gone for about 5 years now. It was Reese who traveled the country and was on the road 90% of the year in order to bring talents like Tuck, Kiwi, and BJ in at the time. EA's last decision was Eli and he can get that. How dare you try to give him props for JPP!!! I guess EA was responsible for KP, AB, MM, Cruz, Nicks, Boley, Ballard, Pascoe, Rolle, Canty, LJ, HH, and TT also. GTFOH!!!

The Reese hate on here is laughable.

You must be besides yourself brotha. EA built this team! Snee, Tuck, Webster, Eli. REALLY???? lol
Come on maaaaaan

Morehead State
01-09-2012, 09:13 AM
Kick rocks man. He has been gone for about 5 years now. It was Reese who traveled the country and was on the road 90% of the year in order to bring talents like Tuck, Kiwi, and BJ in at the time. EA's last decision was Eli and he can get that. How dare you try to give him props for JPP!!! I guess EA was responsible for KP, AB, MM, Cruz, Nicks, Boley, Ballard, Pascoe, Rolle, Canty, LJ, HH, and TT also. GTFOH!!! The Reese hate on here is laughable. You must be besides yourself brotha. EA built this team! Snee, Tuck, Webster, Eli. REALLY???? lol Come on maaaaaan</P>


I have to agree with this. EA had more solid drafts than JR. JR is fine but he has had a lot of misses.</P>

Redeyejedi
01-09-2012, 09:14 AM
He was the one who drafted Eli and many went crazy (in a bad way)

He also added Kiwi and Tuck and people thought he was crazy since we still had Strahan and Osi.

He not only set up the template for us, but for Reese. As Reese added JPP last year when JPP was available, and everyone thought it was a pretty risky move at worst, and at best it would take time to develop the talent.

EA helped us in 07 and his strings that he strung are making some music in 11.

Thank you EA... I remember how many people would knock him.I hope everyone doesnt flip when they take another defensive end this year early

Redeyejedi
01-09-2012, 09:14 AM
He was the one who drafted Eli and many went crazy (in a bad way)

He also added Kiwi and Tuck and people thought he was crazy since we still had Strahan and Osi.

He not only set up the template for us, but for Reese. As Reese added JPP last year when JPP was available, and everyone thought it was a pretty risky move at worst, and at best it would take time to develop the talent.

EA helped us in 07 and his strings that he strung are making some music in 11.

Thank you EA... I remember how many people would knock him.I hope everyone doesnt flip when they take another defensive end this year early

Morehead State
01-09-2012, 09:54 AM
He was the one who drafted Eli and many went crazy (in a bad way) He also added Kiwi and Tuck and people thought he was crazy since we still had Strahan and Osi. He not only set up the template for us, but for Reese. As Reese added JPP last year when JPP was available, and everyone thought it was a pretty risky move at worst, and at best it would take time to develop the talent. EA helped us in 07 and his strings that he strung are making some music in 11. Thank you EA... I remember how many people would knock him.I hope everyone doesnt flip when they take another defensive end this year early</P>


Honestly, if a special D end is available when we pick we should take him. With Osi a big question mark for us in 2012 and Tuck's tendancy to get hurt, we could use another stud in the rotation.</P>


But essentially, we are definately in BPA mode.</P>

DragonSoul
01-25-2012, 12:10 AM
an EA appreciation bump

poppa smurph
01-25-2012, 05:57 PM
Anybody hear or seeanything from EA about the Giants Superbowl appearence or, on the passing of Paterno?