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nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 05:24 PM
Wow, Denard Robinson can make some plays with his feet, but he pretty much stinks outside of those big plays..lol Its 14-0 Mich at the Half, and littearly should be at least 27-0 at worst! Mich had the ball about 5times on Illiniois side of the field and inside the redzone, and Denard fumbled, and threw a pick, and missed a open wr in the endzone..etc..etc Not impressed at all.. Have fun in college Deanrd, your certainly not making it in the NFL.. Shoot, i'd rather have Pat White, then Denard Robinson..

Whitney Mercilus is a freaking animal, i will say! Also, that Mike Martin DT Michigan, looks like he could be a energy, motor, rotational DT in the NFL...

Josh Boyce is just decimating Boise's secondary.. Hes got like 4catches 161yrd 2td in first half for the horned frogs, who are up 6 at the half, trying to knock Boise from the Undefeated ranks.. This boise team isnt the same without Doug Martin, and even with him, don't seem as good as the teams from past couple seasons.. Guys like Austin Pettis, Titus Adams, and Kyle Wilson are certainly missed..

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 05:31 PM
How about RUssell Wilson going 16-16 so far vs Minn? Pretty crazy...

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 06:02 PM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.I really like Ellington too but a couple things to consider:
1. Not in the giants to rake the small backs
2. If he us projected later round you might se him return for his senior year

I see him going anywhere from the 3rd to 5th...Right now I'm observing him in terms of a prospect who I see having good measurables at the next level. I can see him being more around 200+ when combine time rolls around and teams putting him into that second tier of RB's moving up the boards...

From what I've seen he can and does run between the guards and tackles and not just limited to running laterally...There were a lot of guys on this board high on a guy like Taiwan Jones last year who was looked at in similar ways but I don't put Ellington in that same range with a guy like Jones...I think he has more potential to be an early down guy.

I can see him at the pro level having good size at 5'10 205 with good speed and good hands out of the backfield and helps on the return game/ST's....Much rather go after a guy like him in the later rounds than spending a higher pick on a guy like Lamar Miller to be honest. I'll take Isaish Pead anyday! Hes a mulit dimensional weapon that does it all, and has a underrated power game, he don't get credit for.. hes fantastic!

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 09:14 PM
Obviously, its still early in the ORG/STAN game, but i would say this to andrew luck, its not so easy when u play a real team, ey, luck???lol Dude looks mediocre tonight... Shoot, the coach for Stanford is running almost 2of every 3 plays during a series, takign the ball right outta lucks hands..lol Could this be a stock down game for luck?

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 09:32 PM
Wow, Luck and Company aren't even near the same company as Oregon.. Oregon is flat out better, in every facet of the game... At least luck will tear up Colorado or whoever next week..lol

tonyt830
11-12-2011, 09:41 PM
well sportzfan, we saw what a real defense can do against Oregon and their offense. Stanford's D is not the likes of LSU or Bama.</P>


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Stanford is within 6 now. I dont see Oregon winning big. But even if Stanford loses, so what, I dont see Oregon as a National title threat, even with a healthy James and thomas.</P>

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 10:23 PM
well sportzfan, we saw what a real defense can do against Oregon and their offense. Stanford's D is not the likes of LSU or Bama.</p>


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Stanford is within 6 now. I dont see Oregon winning big. But even if Stanford loses, so what, I dont see Oregon as a National title threat, even with a healthy James and thomas.</p> Exactly, why its even worse how bad Luck and Co look tonight, as there not playing a LSU type talent.. Luck looks downright "human" to say the least(i'm being nice!), and in my opinion, its games like this, that should be studied more, then games against teams like UCLA and COLORADO...lol Hopefully, he redeems himself, but hes certainly not scaring anyone yet, thats for sure...

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 10:23 PM
well sportzfan, we saw what a real defense can do against Oregon and their offense. Stanford's D is not the likes of LSU or Bama.</p>


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Stanford is within 6 now. I dont see Oregon winning big. But even if Stanford loses, so what, I dont see Oregon as a National title threat, even with a healthy James and thomas.</p> Exactly, why its even worse how bad Luck and Co look tonight, as there not playing a LSU type talent.. Luck looks downright "human" to say the least(i'm being nice!), and in my opinion, its games like this, that should be studied more, then games against teams like UCLA and COLORADO...lol Hopefully, he redeems himself, but hes certainly not scaring anyone yet, thats for sure...

nycsportzfan
11-13-2011, 12:37 AM
All right, i was a bit hard on luck tonight, when really his coach not just airing it out from start to finish agianst these guys was a huge mistake.. I think the coach stuck with the run to long, and of course, for some reason, Stanford players looked like flopping fish on the field, yet u didn't notice OREGON players slipping nearly as much.. A bunch of dropped passes really hurt Luck as well, all though he ended with good numbers, it wasen't his finest work when the game was still actually worth watching...

thegreatone
11-13-2011, 05:43 AM
*All right, i was a bit hard on luck tonight, when really his coach not just airing it out from start to finish agianst these guys was a huge mistake.. I think the coach stuck with the run to long, and of course, for some reason, Stanford players looked like flopping fish on the field, yet u didn't notice OREGON players slipping nearly as much.. A bunch of dropped passes really hurt Luck as well, all though he ended with good numbers, it wasen't his finest work when the game was still actually worth watching...
It's one game and it's not like the guy has Andre Johnson on the outside. Kid is still a beast

BlueSanta
11-13-2011, 06:50 AM
Anyone Watch The FSU Miami game? 5 draft eligible plays stood out to me: Lamar Miller showed some really nice north-south running. Sean Spence played very well at LB for Miami. Brandon Jenkins spent all day in the Miami backfield. Maybe, the best game was from Nigel Bradham prior to his ejection. Lastly, Greg Reid was electric as a returner. He had 1 punt return for a TD and a 2nd long return that was called back but was jaw dropping. He really is something else. He is a good corner too, but is unlikely to be much more than a nickelback because of his height.

On that Bradham ejection, I normally do not like Matt Millen in the booth at all, but he was very vocal about that call and I agreed with him 100%. Bradham didnt launch himself and he didnt use his helmet, nor did he hit the recievers head. All he did was stand his ground and lower his shoulder as the Miami QB led the WR right into him. Its no reason to eject a player and it shouldnt even be a penalty. I understand the need to protect defenseless players, but they need to make changes to the rules for offenses too if they really had players interest at heart. At least half the monster hits taking place on WR are the QBs or OCs fault for leading WRs in to defenders.

nycsportzfan
11-13-2011, 07:19 AM
All right, i was a bit hard on luck tonight, when really his coach not just airing it out from start to finish agianst these guys was a huge mistake.. I think the coach stuck with the run to long, and of course, for some reason, Stanford players looked like flopping fish on the field, yet u didn't notice OREGON players slipping nearly as much.. A bunch of dropped passes really hurt Luck as well, all though he ended with good numbers, it wasen't his finest work when the game was still actually worth watching...
It's one game and it's not like the guy has Andre Johnson on the outside. Kid is still a beast Should u have to have Andre Johnson on the outside in order to be a good QB? I mean, the guys got Chris Owusu and Coby Fleener and Griff Whalen, which is better then what most teams got catching the ball.. I mean, jeez, Owusu and Fleener should both be drafted by the 3rd and 4th round... Luck was not impressive untill the game was outta reach, and it may of been one game, but it was one game, against a rare "real" team for Luck... If u didn't notice, the first sentence in my last post was "i was a bit hard on luck"..lol Either way, he definetly showed a chink in his armor, and in my opinion, is a bit less of a superman type god that he was percieved today, then he was going into yesterday..

thegreatone
11-13-2011, 10:55 PM
All right, i was a bit hard on luck tonight, when really his coach not just airing it out from start to finish agianst these guys was a huge mistake.. I think the coach stuck with the run to long, and of course, for some reason, Stanford players looked like flopping fish on the field, yet u didn't notice OREGON players slipping nearly as much.. A bunch of dropped passes really hurt Luck as well, all though he ended with good numbers, it wasen't his finest work when the game was still actually worth watching...
It's one game and it's not like the guy has Andre Johnson on the outside. Kid is still a beast Should u have to have Andre Johnson on the outside in order to be a good QB? I mean, the guys got Chris Owusu and Coby Fleener and Griff Whalen, which is better then what most teams got catching the ball.. I mean, jeez, Owusu and Fleener should both be drafted by the 3rd and 4th round... Luck was not impressive untill the game was outta reach, and it may of been one game, but it was one game, against a rare "real" team for Luck... If u didn't notice, the first sentence in my last post was "i was a bit hard on luck"..lol Either way, he definetly showed a chink in his armor, and in my opinion, is a bit less of a superman type god that he was percieved today, then he was going into yesterday..
no but he has done a lot with a lot less, thats my point. I dont care if ppl think he is superman because any rational football fan knows what Luck is, a VERY talented, smart, QB

thegreatone
11-13-2011, 10:57 PM
Anyone Watch The FSU Miami game? 5 draft eligible plays stood out to me: Lamar Miller showed some really nice north-south running. Sean Spence played very well at LB for Miami. Brandon Jenkins spent all day in the Miami backfield. Maybe, the best game was from Nigel Bradham prior to his ejection. Lastly, Greg Reid was electric as a returner. He had 1 punt return for a TD and a 2nd long return that was called back but was jaw dropping. He really is something else. He is a good corner too, but is unlikely to be much more than a nickelback because of his height.

On that Bradham ejection, I normally do not like Matt Millen in the booth at all, but he was very vocal about that call and I agreed with him 100%. Bradham didnt launch himself and he didnt use his helmet, nor did he hit the recievers head. All he did was stand his ground and lower his shoulder as the Miami QB led the WR right into him. Its no reason to eject a player and it shouldnt even be a penalty. I understand the need to protect defenseless players, but they need to make changes to the rules for offenses too if they really had players interest at heart. At least half the monster hits taking place on WR are the QBs or OCs fault for leading WRs in to defenders.
no had to friggin work. glad to hear miller and spence looked good. was expecting more from spence this year but while he has been solid hasnt stood out like id hoped.

nycsportzfan
11-14-2011, 08:40 AM
All right, i was a bit hard on luck tonight, when really his coach not just airing it out from start to finish agianst these guys was a huge mistake.. I think the coach stuck with the run to long, and of course, for some reason, Stanford players looked like flopping fish on the field, yet u didn't notice OREGON players slipping nearly as much.. A bunch of dropped passes really hurt Luck as well, all though he ended with good numbers, it wasen't his finest work when the game was still actually worth watching...
It's one game and it's not like the guy has Andre Johnson on the outside. Kid is still a beast Should u have to have Andre Johnson on the outside in order to be a good QB? I mean, the guys got Chris Owusu and Coby Fleener and Griff Whalen, which is better then what most teams got catching the ball.. I mean, jeez, Owusu and Fleener should both be drafted by the 3rd and 4th round... Luck was not impressive untill the game was outta reach, and it may of been one game, but it was one game, against a rare "real" team for Luck... If u didn't notice, the first sentence in my last post was "i was a bit hard on luck"..lol Either way, he definetly showed a chink in his armor, and in my opinion, is a bit less of a superman type god that he was percieved today, then he was going into yesterday..
no but he has done a lot with a lot less, thats my point. I dont care if ppl think he is superman because any rational football fan knows what Luck is, a VERY talented, smart, QB
Actually, almost every rational football fan thought he was the best prospect to come along in a decade, and the most sure thing since sliced bread... Hes still a pretty darn sure thing, i'm just saying, he wasen't that impressive till that game was outta reach in my opinion. and hes got a ton of weapons, with a solid run game, and a bunch of really good weapons at the recieving positons.. Fleener, owusu, and whalen are about as good as weapons as you'll find, and u should win alot of games with those 3 and there running game, not to mention, 2 first round offfensive lineman protecting luck...

Raptor22
11-14-2011, 09:04 AM
So, the college season is starting to wind down, what do the (informal) positional rankings look like? (thanks to work taking up my Saturdays and Sundays, I haven't been able to watch any football [:(])

nycsportzfan
11-14-2011, 10:09 AM
welp, a gutwrenching loss by our giants yesterday, where it seemed if we could of made one less mistake, or one less drop, we'd of gotten the W... Weather Cruz makes that catch that the next play lead to the ELI pick, or Mario makes catch that would of essentially tied the game, or Eli don't go back to cruz after the drop, and throw a lousy pick, or if Mario continues his route, maybe ELI don't throw another pick, or maybe if ELI puts more loft on that pass to nicks that fell at his feet, we do something on that drive.. SO many, What if's? Anyhow, we Lost, and this weeks mock, i got us falling from 28th last week, to 25th this week....

GIANTS 2012 MOCK DRAFT, PICKING 25th OVERALL..

1. Michael Webster C Ohio St- Again, with no middle running game, its becoming evidentally clear, we need a newer, fresher, ground pounding RB and strong interior run blocking, and picking this late in RD 1(as of now), i think its the best area to address.. WEBSTER is the pick to do just that, and in this scenario, Baas moves back to G next season...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I thought KP played well yesterday, but i still want more speed back there, and healthy knees, and maybe a few more impact plays, and if anything, Depth is needed... Mcdonald could be a really nice all around player as a pro...

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- I think Pierce falls a bit because of his being dinged up a bit this season, and not huge in the passing game, and i love this guy! If we can get Pierce this late in RD 3, i think it'd be a huge steal down the line, this is assuming he comes out, which i think he will.. Pierce could be our bigger, thunder back, who should be able to be a workhorse if needed, and get tough yards, and break one from time to time.. Hes very talented, and has had to do all his work this yr, with opposing defenses knowing exactly whos getting the ball most downs...

4. Cam Johnson DE Virginia- Probably a bit late for a pass rusher of johnson's caliber to go, but its at least possible, as hes dealt with some injuries, putting slight damper on his numbers, and every yr, we see guys fall that we thought woulden't, and Johnson as more of a 3rd round guy, could easily fall one round further..

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I like him alot, and would be estatic to get him in RD 5.. Chism is a solid player, with measurables, and solid speed, and ballskills... Good RD 5 CB..

6. Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma St- A nice player to pickup for a Backup, as hes older and seasoned, and should be solid if sprung into play with a injury to manning, which seems to never happen.. Its still a bit early to worry about a future QB, so Weeden could possibly be our last "backup" QB we need to pick untill were picking our future QB for ELI...

7. Jake Stoneburner TE Ohio St- We struck gold with Ballard, maybe we try going to the Well one more time? Why not?

thegreatone
11-14-2011, 11:32 AM
welp, a gutwrenching loss by our giants yesterday, where it seemed if we could of made one less mistake, or one less drop, we'd of gotten the W... Weather Cruz makes that catch that the next play lead to the ELI pick, or Mario makes catch that would of essentially tied the game, or Eli don't go back to cruz after the drop, and throw a lousy pick, or if Mario continues his route, maybe ELI don't throw another pick, or maybe if ELI puts more loft on that pass to nicks that fell at his feet, we do something on that drive.. SO many, What if's? Anyhow, we Lost, and this weeks mock, i got us falling from 28th last week, to 25th this week....

GIANTS 2012 MOCK DRAFT, PICKING 25th OVERALL..

1. Michael Webster C Ohio St- Again, with no middle running game, its becoming evidentally clear, we need a newer, fresher, ground pounding RB and strong interior run blocking, and picking this late in RD 1(as of now), i think its the best area to address.. WEBSTER is the pick to do just that, and in this scenario, Baas moves back to G next season...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I thought KP played well yesterday, but i still want more speed back there, and healthy knees, and maybe a few more impact plays, and if anything, Depth is needed... Mcdonald could be a really nice all around player as a pro...

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- I think Pierce falls a bit because of his being dinged up a bit this season, and not huge in the passing game, and i love this guy! If we can get Pierce this late in RD 3, i think it'd be a huge steal down the line, this is assuming he comes out, which i think he will.. Pierce could be our bigger, thunder back, who should be able to be a workhorse if needed, and get tough yards, and break one from time to time.. Hes very talented, and has had to do all his work this yr, with opposing defenses knowing exactly whos getting the ball most downs...

4. Cam Johnson DE Virginia- Probably a bit late for a pass rusher of johnson's caliber to go, but its at least possible, as hes dealt with some injuries, putting slight damper on his numbers, and every yr, we see guys fall that we thought woulden't, and Johnson as more of a 3rd round guy, could easily fall one round further..

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I like him alot, and would be estatic to get him in RD 5.. Chism is a solid player, with measurables, and solid speed, and ballskills... Good RD 5 CB..

6. Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma St- A nice player to pickup for a Backup, as hes older and seasoned, and should be solid if sprung into play with a injury to manning, which seems to never happen.. Its still a bit early to worry about a future QB, so Weeden could possibly be our last "backup" QB we need to pick untill were picking our future QB for ELI...

7. Jake Stoneburner TE Ohio St- We struck gold with Ballard, maybe we try going to the Well one more time? Why not?


1.Luke Kuechly ILB BC- i like jones but if he doesnt stop bonehead plays like he did that cost us the SF game he might not make it. I still think he can develop into a fine LB'r but idk if TC will have the patience. When was the last time we took a LB'r in round one?

2. Ben Jones C Georgia- Run game continues to struggle. Holes are non-existent. Koets is gone (might be back) and bass has been less than stellar

3. Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin- big olinemen from the midwest....nuff said.

4.Harrison Smith SS ND-Rolle is not worth the money, grant is on his last legs and sash need to develop

4.Jarius Wright WR ARK

5.David Paulson TE Oregon

6.Kellen Moore QB Boise

7. a reese special im sure but ill go with cody johnson FB texas

nycsportzfan
11-15-2011, 08:59 PM
Chandler Harnish putting on a show yet again, this time against Ball St.. Dudes made some throws that has Danny kanell creaming himself..lol

nycsportzfan
11-16-2011, 05:55 AM
Chandler Harnish putting on a show yet again, this time against Ball St.. Dudes made some throws that has Danny kanell creaming himself..lol
Heres Chandler Harnish's stat line from last nights game against Ball St..

Harnish- 26-36 338yrd 2td 0int / 28carry 181yrd 1td rushing..... Wow!

Hanish for yr- 22td 4int 2594pass yrd 64.0cmp pct / 1203rush yrd 10td. Wow!

Raptor22
11-17-2011, 08:57 AM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 06:07 AM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
U think Mike Martin DT Michigan is going in Round 1? I was thinking he might go about Round 4ish, probably toward end of RD 4.. I don't think Kuechly makes it outta Round 1, and if he does, hes going extremely early Round 2.. I doubt he makes it out though, and if were picking late 20's and hes there, i would hope we snag him..

Obviously i like your thought of a C/G like Decastro or Webster possibly being the pick in the 1st, because we simply gotta start running up the middle better then we are, to open things up for our talented WR core on the outside and over the middle...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 06:19 AM
Was wondering about some players u guys thought were gonna be good a few yrs back, that u look at now, and wonder "what was i thinking?"..lol I was going through NFL Draft history, and some guys i remember being extremely high on, and there pretty much bums at this point are.. Also, no 2010-2011 guys , becuase to early in there careers, and even 2009, is kinda pushing it, but i do have a couple 2009 guys, so use them if u want..

Quentin Groves - Here was a guy i was really high on, and all though Kenny Phillips was my number 1 guy i wanted, id of not minded at all if we drafted Groves with the last pick of rd 1, despite having Osi, Tuck, and Kiwi... I thought Groves was gonna be a tenacious pass rusher as a pro, who plays with a edge, and a nasty attitude, and flat out dominates the game by himself at times...LOL Boy was i wrong!!!!lol

Brady Quinn- Totally sold on him.. And not because i'm a diehard ND fan, either..lol I truly thought he was gonna be the real deal as a pro.. He just looked fabulous at ND, and in the back of my head, i still wonder if hes ever given one more shot, could he show what i really believed was gonna show at this level?

Ron Brace- I wonder if he'd be better for a 4/3 based team? I really believed in this guy! Its his 3rd season right now, and still nothing...

Larry English- I haven't heard much outta this guy since the chargers drafted him.. I thought he'd be a 10sack a season guy, all though still a tad early to tell..

That is just a few guys i am looking to be dead wrong about so far.. Obviously, i've been right quite a bit, but sometimes its just fun to swith it up and talk about something diffrent, like our failures...lol

Raptor22
11-18-2011, 08:29 AM
Well, like I've said: I have been able tO watch very little football lately. Last I saw, Martin was very impressive. He demanded triple teams and manhandled double teams. Has he regressed? Last I saw he was playing like a white Suh.

Obviously Keuchly is a superb football player with unreal production... I would be thrilled to get him in the 1st, but great football players and production < athleticism especially in the 1st. Maybe I've got a bit too much cynicism, but how often have we seen great athletes jump great football players at the combine?

Redeyejedi
11-18-2011, 09:25 AM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up the combine, they're not going in the 1st.

IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.

As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.

In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st. If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
U think Mike Martin DT Michigan is going in Round 1? I was thinking he might go about Round 4ish, probably toward end of RD 4.. I don't think Kuechly makes it outta Round 1, and if he does, hes going extremely early Round 2.. I doubt he makes it out though, and if were picking late 20's and hes there, i would hope we snag him..

Obviously i like your thought of a C/G like Decastro or Webster possibly being the pick in the 1st, because we simply gotta start running up the middle better then we are, to open things up for our talented WR core on the outside and over the middle...


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I think the Giants almost have to take an Olineman in the first 2 rounds. Im not sure if this is a good thing" it is in a drafting sense" but u can make a case that U just take the best Olineman regardless of spot and let the chips fall as they may.Giants are a hard team to read. At least FA is before the draft this year so maybe a hole gets filled before draft day. Some of the best guards in the NFL are FA's</P>

Redeyejedi
11-18-2011, 10:16 AM
Was wondering about some players u guys thought were gonna be good a few yrs back, that u look at now, and wonder "what was i thinking?"..lol I was going through NFL Draft history, and some guys i remember being extremely high on, and there pretty much bums at this point are.. Also, no 2010-2011 guys , becuase to early in there careers, and even 2009, is kinda pushing it, but i do have a couple 2009 guys, so use them if u want..

Quentin Groves - Here was a guy i was really high on, and all though Kenny Phillips was my number 1 guy i wanted, id of not minded at all if we drafted Groves with the last pick of rd 1, despite having Osi, Tuck, and Kiwi... I thought Groves was gonna be a tenacious pass rusher as a pro, who plays with a edge, and a nasty attitude, and flat out dominates the game by himself at times...LOL Boy was i wrong!!!!lol

Brady Quinn- Totally sold on him.. And not because i'm a diehard ND fan, either..lol I truly thought he was gonna be the real deal as a pro.. He just looked fabulous at ND, and in the back of my head, i still wonder if hes ever given one more shot, could he show what i really believed was gonna show at this level?

Ron Brace- I wonder if he'd be better for a 4/3 based team? I really believed in this guy! Its his 3rd season right now, and still nothing...

Larry English- I haven't heard much outta this guy since the chargers drafted him.. I thought he'd be a 10sack a season guy, all though still a tad early to tell..

That is just a few guys i am looking to be dead wrong about so far.. Obviously, i've been right quite a bit, but sometimes its just fun to swith it up and talk about something diffrent, like our failures...lol


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U watch a lot of Big East. What do u think of Dexter Heyman? Everytime I watch him he is always around tje ball. He has greatmeasurables for a LB 6-3 238 4.5 40. He is productive big plays as well. Most Draft sites have him in the 20's of OLB's. I see a much better player</P>

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 05:11 PM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up the combine, they're not going in the 1st.

IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.

As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.

In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st. If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
U think Mike Martin DT Michigan is going in Round 1? I was thinking he might go about Round 4ish, probably toward end of RD 4.. I don't think Kuechly makes it outta Round 1, and if he does, hes going extremely early Round 2.. I doubt he makes it out though, and if were picking late 20's and hes there, i would hope we snag him..

Obviously i like your thought of a C/G like Decastro or Webster possibly being the pick in the 1st, because we simply gotta start running up the middle better then we are, to open things up for our talented WR core on the outside and over the middle...


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I think the Giants almost have to take an Olineman in the first 2 rounds. Im not sure if this is a good thing" it is in a drafting sense" but u can make a case that U just take the best Olineman regardless of spot and let the chips fall as they may.Giants are a hard team to read. At least FA is before the draft this year so maybe a hole gets filled before draft day. Some of the best guards in the NFL are FA's</p> Ya, i seen a good 3round mock for the Giants on Walt Football, by Charlie Campbell today... He agrees about our Oline, and how there getting alittle long in the tooth, with Mckenzie going to be 32, and Snee going to be 30, and Diehl(whos gone), going to be 31... Matt Reynolds would be a great RT prospect for us, all though u know i'm pretty high on James Brewer, but regardless, its still good to have some competition, and depth.. I woulden't be against going Oline 2of the first 4picks we have, to be honest.. I'm also excited about FA'cy this yr, being before the draft again..
1. Luke Kuelechy lb BC
2. Matt Reynolds ot BYU
3. Derek Wolfe dt CINCY

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 05:11 PM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up the combine, they're not going in the 1st.

IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.

As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.

In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st. If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
U think Mike Martin DT Michigan is going in Round 1? I was thinking he might go about Round 4ish, probably toward end of RD 4.. I don't think Kuechly makes it outta Round 1, and if he does, hes going extremely early Round 2.. I doubt he makes it out though, and if were picking late 20's and hes there, i would hope we snag him..

Obviously i like your thought of a C/G like Decastro or Webster possibly being the pick in the 1st, because we simply gotta start running up the middle better then we are, to open things up for our talented WR core on the outside and over the middle...


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I think the Giants almost have to take an Olineman in the first 2 rounds. Im not sure if this is a good thing" it is in a drafting sense" but u can make a case that U just take the best Olineman regardless of spot and let the chips fall as they may.Giants are a hard team to read. At least FA is before the draft this year so maybe a hole gets filled before draft day. Some of the best guards in the NFL are FA's</p> Ya, i seen a good 3round mock for the Giants on Walt Football, by Charlie Campbell today... He agrees about our Oline, and how there getting alittle long in the tooth, with Mckenzie going to be 32, and Snee going to be 30, and Diehl(whos gone), going to be 31... Matt Reynolds would be a great RT prospect for us, all though u know i'm pretty high on James Brewer, but regardless, its still good to have some competition, and depth.. I woulden't be against going Oline 2of the first 4picks we have, to be honest.. I'm also excited about FA'cy this yr, being before the draft again..
1. Luke Kuelechy lb BC
2. Matt Reynolds ot BYU
3. Derek Wolfe dt CINCY

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 05:12 PM
Was wondering about some players u guys thought were gonna be good a few yrs back, that u look at now, and wonder "what was i thinking?"..lol I was going through NFL Draft history, and some guys i remember being extremely high on, and there pretty much bums at this point are.. Also, no 2010-2011 guys , becuase to early in there careers, and even 2009, is kinda pushing it, but i do have a couple 2009 guys, so use them if u want..

Quentin Groves - Here was a guy i was really high on, and all though Kenny Phillips was my number 1 guy i wanted, id of not minded at all if we drafted Groves with the last pick of rd 1, despite having Osi, Tuck, and Kiwi... I thought Groves was gonna be a tenacious pass rusher as a pro, who plays with a edge, and a nasty attitude, and flat out dominates the game by himself at times...LOL Boy was i wrong!!!!lol

Brady Quinn- Totally sold on him.. And not because i'm a diehard ND fan, either..lol I truly thought he was gonna be the real deal as a pro.. He just looked fabulous at ND, and in the back of my head, i still wonder if hes ever given one more shot, could he show what i really believed was gonna show at this level?

Ron Brace- I wonder if he'd be better for a 4/3 based team? I really believed in this guy! Its his 3rd season right now, and still nothing...

Larry English- I haven't heard much outta this guy since the chargers drafted him.. I thought he'd be a 10sack a season guy, all though still a tad early to tell..

That is just a few guys i am looking to be dead wrong about so far.. Obviously, i've been right quite a bit, but sometimes its just fun to swith it up and talk about something diffrent, like our failures...lol


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U watch a lot of Big East. What do u think of Dexter Heyman? Everytime I watch him he is always around tje ball. He has greatmeasurables for a LB 6-3 238 4.5 40. He is productive big plays as well. Most Draft sites have him in the 20's of OLB's. I see a much better player</p> Ya, Heyman is a beast, and one of the biggest reasons Louisvilles defense is having a banner season...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 05:14 PM
Well, like I've said: I have been able tO watch very little football lately. Last I saw, Martin was very impressive. He demanded triple teams and manhandled double teams. Has he regressed? Last I saw he was playing like a white Suh.

Obviously Keuchly is a superb football player with unreal production... I would be thrilled to get him in the 1st, but great football players and production &lt; athleticism especially in the 1st. Maybe I've got a bit too much cynicism, but how often have we seen great athletes jump great football players at the combine? No, Martin hasen't regressed.. Hes a Hustle player, who has solid, albeit not great measurables, and will get drafted on his hustle and heart more then anything else... I like him as well, but hes not gonna be round 1 guy.. Shoot, i have yet to see him in anyones 3rd mocks, all though it dosent mean he can't surprise, 1st round might be alittle much...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 08:46 PM
not to impressed with Oklahoma St so far against Iowa st.. Weeden through 1qter(still early), has buckled under pressure a few times, and through a dreadful INT, with his team nearing the endzone.. I dont know how this one plays out, but LSU will mangle Oklahoma St, if its those 2 in the Champ Game... So far, Ok St scored off a INT RETURN, and really, Ok st's D has been missing out on big plays all first QTER, before finally finishing a play, which was the INT RETURN.. For all i know, Ok St will WIN big over the next 3qters, but so far, not really impressed...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 09:09 PM
not to impressed with Oklahoma St so far against Iowa st.. Weeden through 1qter(still early), has buckled under pressure a few times, and through a dreadful INT, with his team nearing the endzone.. I dont know how this one plays out, but LSU will mangle Oklahoma St, if its those 2 in the Champ Game... So far, Ok St scored off a INT RETURN, and really, Ok st's D has been missing out on big plays all first QTER, before finally finishing a play, which was the INT RETURN.. For all i know, Ok St will WIN big over the next 3qters, but so far, not really impressed...
Wow, Ok St is a bunch of ****y dudes.. They are just going through the motions, why there defese plays like bafoons, and what do u know, u look up and there only up 10-7..lol I hope they lose so bad! The way there playing, they deserve it.. 2turnovers, missed tackles, and getting lit up by some scrub for Iowa st...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 09:40 PM
Oklahoma St is a absoulute Joke! Seriously, there just downright pathetic! If they were playing LSU, they'd be getting beat by 30 right now.. THey litteraly have a 2nd and 3, and Weeden throws the ball in the dirt, with absoulutley no pressure around him(could've waited another 5seconds before doing that), and then they run on 3rd and 2(they had done nothing on the ground and were stuffed about 3times all ready), and then go for it on 4th, just outside of FG range, only needing 2yrds, and weeden bombs one up for a incomplete pass..lol Weeden's numbers are way better then hes played... They've scored 7points against one of the most pathetic teams in the land.. THen there defense will look as if there gonna make a play, and then boom, they'll give up a huge play somehow..lol Not impressed in the least bit by Oklahoma St..

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 09:54 PM
Oklahoma St is a absoulute Joke! Seriously, there just downright pathetic! If they were playing LSU, they'd be getting beat by 30 right now.. THey litteraly have a 2nd and 3, and Weeden throws the ball in the dirt, with absoulutley no pressure around him(could've waited another 5seconds before doing that), and then they run on 3rd and 2(they had done nothing on the ground and were stuffed about 3times all ready), and then go for it on 4th, just outside of FG range, only needing 2yrds, and weeden bombs one up for a incomplete pass..lol Weeden's numbers are way better then hes played... They've scored 7points against one of the most pathetic teams in the land.. THen there defense will look as if there gonna make a play, and then boom, they'll give up a huge play somehow..lol Not impressed in the least bit by Oklahoma St..
I mean, Pathetic for where there ranked and where were gonna see them end up probably, which is CHAMP GAME.. I think they'll get crushed against anyone they play from top 10

Redeyejedi
11-18-2011, 10:00 PM
not to impressed with Oklahoma St so far against Iowa st.. Weeden through 1qter(still early), has buckled under pressure a few times, and through a dreadful INT, with his team nearing the endzone..** I dont know how this one plays out, but LSU will mangle Oklahoma St, if its those 2 in the Champ Game... So far, Ok St scored off a INT RETURN, and really, Ok st's D has been missing out on big plays all first QTER, before finally finishing a play, which was the INT RETURN..* For all i know, Ok St will WIN big over the next 3qters, but so far, not really impressed...
Oklahoma will beat them

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 10:18 PM
not to impressed with Oklahoma St so far against Iowa st.. Weeden through 1qter(still early), has buckled under pressure a few times, and through a dreadful INT, with his team nearing the endzone.. I dont know how this one plays out, but LSU will mangle Oklahoma St, if its those 2 in the Champ Game... So far, Ok St scored off a INT RETURN, and really, Ok st's D has been missing out on big plays all first QTER, before finally finishing a play, which was the INT RETURN.. For all i know, Ok St will WIN big over the next 3qters, but so far, not really impressed...
Oklahoma will beat them Thats true.. There really not that good.. I just watched Iowa St drive on them in 2minutes and score a TD..LOL If Iowa St don't miss a FG and throw a pick on a nice drive(flukey play), then they might be winning... Oklahoma St's defense is laughable.. Seriously, laguhable! Its funny when one of em is in positon to make a play and they 100pct of the time totally whiff, its crazy!!lol I hope they lose, it'll crack me up..

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 10:21 PM
Another thing that bothers me is when these players make a just bafoonish play or mistake, and guys are patting em on the head or telling em its ok and yada yada yada.. Hold em accountable! I'm sick of watching just totally idiotic penalties and mistakes every game.. Obviously, when you know your not gonna be held accountable, it makes it alittle easier to continue to do those dumb things.. I know, when i was in Bootcamp, we certainly didn't get patted on the back for making stupid, unacepatable mistakes..lol Its ridiculous...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 10:24 PM
not to impressed with Oklahoma St so far against Iowa st.. Weeden through 1qter(still early), has buckled under pressure a few times, and through a dreadful INT, with his team nearing the endzone.. I dont know how this one plays out, but LSU will mangle Oklahoma St, if its those 2 in the Champ Game... So far, Ok St scored off a INT RETURN, and really, Ok st's D has been missing out on big plays all first QTER, before finally finishing a play, which was the INT RETURN.. For all i know, Ok St will WIN big over the next 3qters, but so far, not really impressed...
Oklahoma will beat them Thats true.. There really not that good.. I just watched Iowa St drive on them in 2minutes and score a TD..LOL If Iowa St don't miss a FG and throw a pick on a nice drive(flukey play), then they might be winning... Oklahoma St's defense is laughable.. Seriously, laguhable! Its funny when one of em is in positon to make a play and they 100pct of the time totally whiff, its crazy!!lol I hope they lose, it'll crack me up..
hahahaha, Ok St not only turned the ball over right after the Iowa St score, they then just litteraly stood around on a 3rd and 10 when IOwa St QB ran for about 20yrds and fumbled inside the 10(lucky for Ok st).. They should be getting beat in this game.. There not that good at all...

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 10:28 PM
not to impressed with Oklahoma St so far against Iowa st.. Weeden through 1qter(still early), has buckled under pressure a few times, and through a dreadful INT, with his team nearing the endzone.. I dont know how this one plays out, but LSU will mangle Oklahoma St, if its those 2 in the Champ Game... So far, Ok St scored off a INT RETURN, and really, Ok st's D has been missing out on big plays all first QTER, before finally finishing a play, which was the INT RETURN.. For all i know, Ok St will WIN big over the next 3qters, but so far, not really impressed...
Oklahoma will beat them Thats true.. There really not that good.. I just watched Iowa St drive on them in 2minutes and score a TD..LOL If Iowa St don't miss a FG and throw a pick on a nice drive(flukey play), then they might be winning... Oklahoma St's defense is laughable.. Seriously, laguhable! Its funny when one of em is in positon to make a play and they 100pct of the time totally whiff, its crazy!!lol I hope they lose, it'll crack me up..
hahahaha, Ok St not only turned the ball over right after the Iowa St score, they then just litteraly stood around on a 3rd and 10 when IOwa St QB ran for about 20yrds and fumbled inside the 10(lucky for Ok st).. They should be getting beat in this game.. There not that good at all...
HHAHAHAHHAHHAHA, Now Randle Fumbled!!! This team is Freaking pathetic!!!HAHHAHAHAHHHA!!! OMG! What a bunch of bafoons! This Ok st team has no bussiness being top 10, let alone top 2... There freaking pathetic!

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 10:32 PM
Yo!!!!lol This moron on Ok St(CB), somehow missed a tackle that seriously a blind man with a broken arm makes 100outta 100times..lol I'm starting to think this games fixed or something, because there is no way a team can be this bad and be ranked 2nd in this country.. They aren't beating any team that is in the top 20 right now in a bowl game.. No how, no way! What a freaking joke!!! lol
Another missed tackle, before i even get this post in...LOL Lucky for Ok St, a holding.. To be honest, Iowa St should be up Double digits by this time..


I'm done venting..lol

nycsportzfan
11-18-2011, 10:35 PM
Huge 3rd down for Ok st, and some idiot commits a terrible pass interference..lol This team is gonna get freaking mangled in a bowl game... I can't wait to see Arkansas or someone just destroy these dudes.. I'm betting huge against Ok St next week when they play Oklahoma.. HUGE!

titwio
11-18-2011, 10:56 PM
Ok.St. might lose this game...Awful pass by Weeden.

titwio
11-18-2011, 11:43 PM
Touchdown...LOL

Redeyejedi
11-19-2011, 12:07 AM
Ok.St. might lose this game...Awful pass by Weeden.he was terrible tonight

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 05:33 AM
Ok.St. might lose this game...Awful pass by Weeden.he was terrible tonightMakes u wonder? Some of his passes were mysteriously off, and to be honest, there defense was in positon about 80times to make a play and totally whiffed every time, it was dispicaple to watch, it truly was.. What a embaressing game, for a team that will get very few chances at what they had a chance at.. TOdays youth is really classless, in my opinion.. To many spoiled brats...

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 03:59 PM
what happened to Tahj Boyd? He stinks now..lol Nah, its early still in that game, but hes certainly not looking like the player he was looking like early on in the season...

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 04:02 PM
watching Oh St and Penn st, and i just watched the Oh St defenders get all in a Penn St RB face for a hard hit, which is amazing to me, because Penn St is driving it down there throats, and scored in about 30seconds on there first drive, and now are just smoking down the field yet again on there 2nd drive..lol I'm telling ya, some of these players today are just stupid..lol

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 04:20 PM
what happened to Tahj Boyd? He stinks now..lol Nah, its early still in that game, but hes certainly not looking like the player he was looking like early on in the season...
Someone see if Boyd is driving a new car, because hes terrible now... It just makes no sense.. All of a sudden, these guys can't move the ball to save there lives? Give me a break.

Redeyejedi
11-19-2011, 04:31 PM
Tyler Eifert just made an acrobatic 1 handed catch for 38 yards

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 04:38 PM
Tyler Eifert just made an acrobatic 1 handed catch for 38 yards Tahj Boyd just fumbled the ball inside the 10..lol 14-3 NC STATE, on the num 7 team in the country no less..LOL U gotta love college football..lol ANd to think, this is the same NC ST team that coulden't score a TD to save there lives against BC last week, but amazingly enough(fixed), CLEMSON doing the only thing that could save NC ST, and thats make crucial turnovers.. I'm so sick of these fixed games.. College FOotball sucks!

Redeyejedi
11-19-2011, 04:39 PM
Tyler Eifert just made an acrobatic 1 handed catch for 38 yards Tahj Boyd just fumbled the ball inside the 10..lol* 14-3* NC STATE, on the num 7 team in the country no less..LOL* U gotta love college football..lol** ANd to think, this is the same NC ST team that coulden't score a TD to save there lives against BC last week, but amazingly enough(fixed), CLEMSON doing the only thing that could save NC ST, and thats make crucial turnovers.. I'm so sick of these fixed games..* College FOotball sucks!
I can always tell when your gambling isnt going your way

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 04:42 PM
Tyler Eifert just made an acrobatic 1 handed catch for 38 yards Tahj Boyd just fumbled the ball inside the 10..lol 14-3 NC STATE, on the num 7 team in the country no less..LOL U gotta love college football..lol ANd to think, this is the same NC ST team that coulden't score a TD to save there lives against BC last week, but amazingly enough(fixed), CLEMSON doing the only thing that could save NC ST, and thats make crucial turnovers.. I'm so sick of these fixed games.. College FOotball sucks!
What do u know, yet another Fumble by Clemson, this time inside the 20, and this time it was bellamy who never even got touched...LOL This is just embaressing to watch.. About to be 21-3 the next play.. What a joke college football is...

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 04:44 PM
Tyler Eifert just made an acrobatic 1 handed catch for 38 yards Tahj Boyd just fumbled the ball inside the 10..lol 14-3 NC STATE, on the num 7 team in the country no less..LOL U gotta love college football..lol ANd to think, this is the same NC ST team that coulden't score a TD to save there lives against BC last week, but amazingly enough(fixed), CLEMSON doing the only thing that could save NC ST, and thats make crucial turnovers.. I'm so sick of these fixed games.. College FOotball sucks!
I can always tell when your gambling isnt going your way Its just amazing that Vegas puts spread at -7 for CLEM, and u know its a sucker bet and CLEM is gonna not cover, but u just can't imagine how? And what do u know, Guys fumble without being touched, and u have 3turnovers in the first half...LOL I guess VEGAS knew that guys would fumble without being touched, or they knew that CLEM would get a 30yrd gain and a Hold would be called.. Its pretty amazing.. 17-3 now..lol

nycsportzfan
11-19-2011, 04:55 PM
College football is awful! Wow, the number 7 and 2 team in the country just getting lambasted by the trash in the country..lol Clemson can't even hike the ball right, let alone gain a yard.. This is freaking pathetic! Clemson shoulden't be allowed to play another game the rest of the season, for this embaressment... What a freaking joke! Bunch of scrubs! 24-3 NC STATE...LOLLLOLLOLOL GO home clemson, u freaking losers! I'm so sick of these punk kids getting talked about like there gods because they play football, when there classless punks!

Redeyejedi
11-19-2011, 06:39 PM
U guys see Lee Corso say F it on National TV during Gameday this morning. I was looking at my computer and Im like did he just say that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bGBrit4EMo

Redeyejedi
11-19-2011, 06:56 PM
Reality check your getting old is when U see Joe Montanas son play QB for a divison 1 school. Weird today a Montana and a Farve started at QB

BlueSanta
11-19-2011, 06:56 PM
U guys see Lee Corso say F it on National TV during Gameday this morning. I was looking at my computer and Im like did he just say that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bGBrit4EMo

Its hard not to like Lee Corso. You can disagree with everything he says and still find yourself liking him.

buddy33
11-19-2011, 09:53 PM
*College football is awful!*** Wow, the number 7 and 2 team in the country just getting lambasted by the trash in the country..lol*** Clemson can't even hike the ball right, let alone gain a yard.. This is freaking pathetic!* Clemson shoulden't be allowed to play another game the rest of the season, for this embaressment... What a freaking joke!* Bunch of scrubs! 24-3 NC STATE...LOLLLOLLOLOL* GO home clemson, u freaking losers!*** I'm so sick of these punk kids getting talked about like there gods because they play football, when there classless punks!


Looks like #4 and #5 are having troubles tonight as well. Alabama might end up at #2 again this week. Arkansas might be #3. Imagine the #1, #2, and #3 teams are all SEC teams.

Redeyejedi
11-20-2011, 12:04 AM
Wow what a week Oklahoma State,Oklahoma,Oregon and Clemson all go down.

RG3 I have now seen enough tape and its goooddddd

nycsportzfan
11-20-2011, 08:17 AM
Wow what a week Oklahoma State,Oklahoma,Oregon and Clemson all go down.

RG3 I have now seen enough tape and its gooodddddya its freaking pathetic I can't believe who they let get beat by!!!lol These kids gotta start realizing what there playing for!

nycsportzfan
11-20-2011, 07:03 PM
I had to comment on how pathetic the charger Defense is LOL HOLYCRAP!!!!LOL That entire team is Awful! Just a bunch of F-UPS!

tdawg1413
11-22-2011, 02:43 PM
I feel that Sunday night's game was very telling of how our season will go. I see us ending at 9-7 and just missing the playoffs again. I have us drafting at #19. I see us getting an additional 4th and a 7th rounder for Cofield and Boss. Here is an updated mock:

1. David DeCastro - G - Stanford - DeCastro would easily be the best player for us as I am sure we will move on from Diehl since he has been terrible this year. DeCastro will start from day 1 and be an anchor on the line for years.

2. Janoris Jenkins - CB - North Alabama - Jenkins is a first round talent, but will fall here due to character issues. We are not sure about TT's return and may also lose Ross. Jenkins is too good to pass up here.

3. Isaiah Pead - RB - Cincinnati - Explosiveness is what our RB corps lacks. With last years addition of Scott and now Pead, we will have it. Pead is a good change of pace type player and could immediately step in as our 3rd down guy.

4A. Matt Reynolds - T/G - BYU - Reynolds will drop due to age, but he is a technically sound player that will challenge Brewer for the RT job or be the successor to Snee at RG. Good value here.

4B. Juron Criner - WR - Arizona - Another player I have slipping due to some off field issues and slow timed speed at the combine. Criner is a good player though who needs some technique help but has great upside.

5. Gerald Hodges - LB - Penn St. - Hodges is a guy who can play inside and outside and has had a very good year for PSU.

6. DaJohn Harris - DT - USC - Harris has good size and a good motor. Insurance for Austin and also depth if we lose Bernard.

7a. George Bryan - TE - NC State - Bryan is a big bodied TE that can catch a bit as well. Will fit into some 2TE sets for us.

7b. - Chandler Jones - DE - Syracuse - Jones is a lean athletic DE that can rush the passer a bit but needs to bulk up. Developmental guy here

Redeyejedi
11-22-2011, 02:52 PM
I feel that Sunday night's game was very telling of how our season will go. I see us ending at 9-7 and just missing the playoffs again. I have us drafting at #19. I see us getting an additional 4th and a 7th rounder for Cofield and Boss. Here is an updated mock:

1. David DeCastro - G - Stanford - DeCastro would easily be the best player for us as I am sure we will move on from Diehl since he has been terrible this year. DeCastro will start from day 1 and be an anchor on the line for years.

2. Janoris Jenkins - CB - North Alabama - Jenkins is a first round talent, but will fall here due to character issues. We are not sure about TT's return and may also lose Ross. Jenkins is too good to pass up here.

3. Isaiah Pead - RB - Cincinnati - Explosiveness is what our RB corps lacks. With last years addition of Scott and now Pead, we will have it. Pead is a good change of pace type player and could immediately step in as our 3rd down guy.

4A. Matt Reynolds - T/G - BYU - Reynolds will drop due to age, but he is a technically sound player that will challenge Brewer for the RT job or be the successor to Snee at RG. Good value here.

4B. Juron Criner - WR - Arizona - Another player I have slipping due to some off field issues and slow timed speed at the combine. Criner is a good player though who needs some technique help but has great upside.

5. Gerald Hodges - LB - Penn St. - Hodges is a guy who can play inside and outside and has had a very good year for PSU.

6. DaJohn Harris - DT - USC - Harris has good size and a good motor. Insurance for Austin and also depth if we lose Bernard.

7a. George Bryan - TE - NC State - Bryan is a big bodied TE that can catch a bit as well. Will fit into some 2TE sets for us.

7b. - Chandler Jones - DE - Syracuse - Jones is a lean athletic DE that can rush the passer a bit but needs to bulk up. Developmental guy here

Im not usually very high on interior lineman early but the Diehl and Baas are awful and Snee has played poorly as well. The Giants need to take whoever the best Olineman is thats on the board. If he is a Tackle then fine, Guard ,Center whatever the whole unit needs a talent upgrade. I think the Giants should go hard after Ben Grubbs but we shall see. I would be fine with Decastro who also can play center</P>


Dajohn Harris is a player Ive been pushing since very early in the season. Great size and Measurables and has been more disruptive then Stats indicate. He is constantly pushing back the pocket. Look for Harris to be a riser when April comes around</P>


I like Pead and think he would be an excellent choice however I expect more of a Power Back to be drafted, Bryan is a Coughlin type Giant TE but he night not be here next season</P>

nycsportzfan
11-22-2011, 05:54 PM
I feel that Sunday night's game was very telling of how our season will go. I see us ending at 9-7 and just missing the playoffs again. I have us drafting at #19. I see us getting an additional 4th and a 7th rounder for Cofield and Boss. Here is an updated mock:

1. David DeCastro - G - Stanford - DeCastro would easily be the best player for us as I am sure we will move on from Diehl since he has been terrible this year. DeCastro will start from day 1 and be an anchor on the line for years.

2. Janoris Jenkins - CB - North Alabama - Jenkins is a first round talent, but will fall here due to character issues. We are not sure about TT's return and may also lose Ross. Jenkins is too good to pass up here.

3. Isaiah Pead - RB - Cincinnati - Explosiveness is what our RB corps lacks. With last years addition of Scott and now Pead, we will have it. Pead is a good change of pace type player and could immediately step in as our 3rd down guy.

4A. Matt Reynolds - T/G - BYU - Reynolds will drop due to age, but he is a technically sound player that will challenge Brewer for the RT job or be the successor to Snee at RG. Good value here.

4B. Juron Criner - WR - Arizona - Another player I have slipping due to some off field issues and slow timed speed at the combine. Criner is a good player though who needs some technique help but has great upside.

5. Gerald Hodges - LB - Penn St. - Hodges is a guy who can play inside and outside and has had a very good year for PSU.

6. DaJohn Harris - DT - USC - Harris has good size and a good motor. Insurance for Austin and also depth if we lose Bernard.

7a. George Bryan - TE - NC State - Bryan is a big bodied TE that can catch a bit as well. Will fit into some 2TE sets for us.

7b. - Chandler Jones - DE - Syracuse - Jones is a lean athletic DE that can rush the passer a bit but needs to bulk up. Developmental guy here

whoa <span class="echo-item-text">my friend! Reynolds in RD 4? Bryan in Rd 7? Criner a Co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mp 4th rounder? I would love your </span><span class="echo-item-text">mock but don't see those guys even possibly going as late as u got the</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span>

nycsportzfan
11-22-2011, 06:22 PM
Ti<span class="echo-item-text">me for </span><span class="echo-item-text">my WEEKLY </span><span class="echo-item-text">mock DRAFT! And as i figured Were getting back down the draft so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me after a e</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbaressing loss at ho</span><span class="echo-item-text">me yet again(seahawks other one) Who didn't see this co</span><span class="echo-item-text">ming? I </span><span class="echo-item-text">mean when u need 4th qter co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mebacks to beat ARZ BUFF and DOLPHINS then u kinda get a idea we </span><span class="echo-item-text">may have so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me issues this yr and our record </span><span class="echo-item-text">may not indicate how good we are lol Anyways I got us down to about pick 22 after last weeks debacle So here we go!

GIANTS PICKING 22nd OVERALL

1 Barrett Jones T/G Ba</span><span class="echo-item-text">ma- Stater at G in 09 and 10 before going to LT this yr Jones has played exceptionally well this yr If he co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes out i fully expect a 1st round selection for hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m Good size at 6ft 5in 311lbs His versatility is fantastic! Outside of LT hes even played C and LG and RT this season

2 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin- Seasoned vet on that Wisconsin Oline whos been a beast for that wisconsin running ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is exactly what the DR ordered for our poorus run blocking! If Jones and Zeitler are both there in the low 20's of the 1st and 2nd round I think u pull the trigger!

3 Kawaan Short DT Purdue- I just love this kid and he </span><span class="echo-item-text">makes plays! With Austin not of played for 2yrs by the ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me he gets going for us and Canty another yr older and Bernard doing nothing as usual It </span><span class="echo-item-text">may be good idea to get another DT in here to pair with Joseph and Austin going forward Short is a stout player who has been the heartbeat of his tea</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms defense and its sure fun to watch hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m play when hes in a zone!

4 Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text">martin RB Boise St- I've liked Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text">martin for so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me an</span>d think he could be the next in the Ray Rice/ <span class="echo-item-text">mj</span>d line of short stout do everything RB's in this league

4 co<span class="echo-item-text">mp- Dealano Howell S Stanford- We need depth and howell is a solid safety who can </span><span class="echo-item-text">mix it up in the run ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is not a liability in coverege I think Howell is gonna be a very solid pro

5 Tank Carder LB TCU- Kinda having a bit of a down season as far as what was anticipated outta hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m but i still like the way he plays the ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and there Defense dosen't have </span><span class="echo-item-text">much t</span>alent this yr so i think it has so<span class="echo-item-text">mething to do with his overall nu</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbers and if he slides to Rd 5 It'd be great Value for a guy like Carder

6 Danton Lynn CB Penn St- Nice depth CB this late

7 Chandler Harnish QB No Ill- Develop</span><span class="echo-item-text">mental QB who i like</span>
<span class="echo-item-text"> </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span>

Redeyejedi
11-23-2011, 08:58 AM
Ti<span class="echo-item-text">me for </span><span class="echo-item-text">my WEEKLY </span><span class="echo-item-text">mock DRAFT!* And as i figured**** Were getting back down the draft so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me after a e</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbaressing loss at ho</span><span class="echo-item-text">me yet again(seahawks other one)** Who didn't see this co</span><span class="echo-item-text">ming? I </span><span class="echo-item-text">mean when u need 4th qter co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mebacks to beat ARZ BUFF and DOLPHINS then u kinda get a idea we </span><span class="echo-item-text">may have so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me issues this yr and our record </span><span class="echo-item-text">may not indicate how good we are lol*** Anyways** I got us down to about pick 22 after last weeks debacle*** So here we go!

GIANTS PICKING 22nd OVERALL

1* Barrett Jones T/G Ba</span><span class="echo-item-text">ma- Stater at G in 09 and 10 before going to LT this yr*** Jones has played exceptionally well* this yr** If he co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes out i fully expect a 1st round selection* for hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m** Good size at 6ft 5in 311lbs** His versatility is fantastic! Outside of LT* hes even played C and LG and RT this season

2 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin-** Seasoned* vet on that Wisconsin Oline whos been* a beast for that wisconsin running ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me** and is exactly what the DR ordered for our poorus run blocking!* If Jones and Zeitler are both there in the low 20's of the 1st and 2nd round**** I think u pull the trigger!

3* Kawaan Short DT Purdue- I just love this kid and he </span><span class="echo-item-text">makes plays! With Austin not of played for 2yrs by the ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me he gets going for us and Canty another yr older and Bernard doing nothing as usual ** It * </span><span class="echo-item-text">may be good idea to get another DT in here to pair with Joseph and Austin going forward*** Short is a stout player who has been the heartbeat of his tea</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms defense and its sure fun to watch hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m play when hes in a zone!

4* Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text">martin RB Boise St-* I've liked Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text">martin for so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me an</span>d think he could be the next in the Ray Rice/ <span class="echo-item-text">mj</span>d line of short stout do everything RB's in this league
*
4 co<span class="echo-item-text">mp-* Dealano Howell S Stanford-* We need depth and howell is a solid safety who can </span><span class="echo-item-text">mix it up in the run ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is not a liability in coverege** I think Howell is gonna be* a very solid pro

5* Tank Carder LB TCU-* Kinda having a bit of a down season as far as what was anticipated outta hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m but i still like the way he plays the ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and there Defense dosen't have </span><span class="echo-item-text">much t</span>alent this yr so i think it has so<span class="echo-item-text">mething to do with his overall nu</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbers and if he slides to Rd 5*** It'd be great Value for a guy like Carder

6 Danton Lynn CB Penn St-* Nice depth CB this late

7* Chandler Harnish QB No Ill-* Develop</span><span class="echo-item-text">mental QB** who i like</span>
<span class="echo-item-text">* </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span>Im a big time Barret Jones fan but he is a Junior and I havent really got a sense from the Draft Community that he is coming out. Like the pick though.
Zeiter is a Wisconsin lineman thats not a bad thing.

Short is a good player doing the Short vs ohio state game next actually.

All the other guys are good players although I think Carder may go undrafted

nycsportzfan
11-23-2011, 09:40 PM
Ti<span class="echo-item-text">me for </span><span class="echo-item-text">my WEEKLY </span><span class="echo-item-text">mock DRAFT! And as i figured Were getting back down the draft so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me after a e</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbaressing loss at ho</span><span class="echo-item-text">me yet again(seahawks other one) Who didn't see this co</span><span class="echo-item-text">ming? I </span><span class="echo-item-text">mean when u need 4th qter co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mebacks to beat ARZ BUFF and DOLPHINS then u kinda get a idea we </span><span class="echo-item-text">may have so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me issues this yr and our record </span><span class="echo-item-text">may not indicate how good we are lol Anyways I got us down to about pick 22 after last weeks debacle So here we go!

GIANTS PICKING 22nd OVERALL

1 Barrett Jones T/G Ba</span><span class="echo-item-text">ma- Stater at G in 09 and 10 before going to LT this yr Jones has played exceptionally well this yr If he co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes out i fully expect a 1st round selection for hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m Good size at 6ft 5in 311lbs His versatility is fantastic! Outside of LT hes even played C and LG and RT this season

2 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin- Seasoned vet on that Wisconsin Oline whos been a beast for that wisconsin running ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is exactly what the DR ordered for our poorus run blocking! If Jones and Zeitler are both there in the low 20's of the 1st and 2nd round I think u pull the trigger!

3 Kawaan Short DT Purdue- I just love this kid and he </span><span class="echo-item-text">makes plays! With Austin not of played for 2yrs by the ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me he gets going for us and Canty another yr older and Bernard doing nothing as usual It </span><span class="echo-item-text">may be good idea to get another DT in here to pair with Joseph and Austin going forward Short is a stout player who has been the heartbeat of his tea</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms defense and its sure fun to watch hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m play when hes in a zone!

4 Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text">martin RB Boise St- I've liked Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text">martin for so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me an</span>d think he could be the next in the Ray Rice/ <span class="echo-item-text">mj</span>d line of short stout do everything RB's in this league

4 co<span class="echo-item-text">mp- Dealano Howell S Stanford- We need depth and howell is a solid safety who can </span><span class="echo-item-text">mix it up in the run ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is not a liability in coverege I think Howell is gonna be a very solid pro

5 Tank Carder LB TCU- Kinda having a bit of a down season as far as what was anticipated outta hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m but i still like the way he plays the ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and there Defense dosen't have </span><span class="echo-item-text">much t</span>alent this yr so i think it has so<span class="echo-item-text">mething to do with his overall nu</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbers and if he slides to Rd 5 It'd be great Value for a guy like Carder

6 Danton Lynn CB Penn St- Nice depth CB this late

7 Chandler Harnish QB No Ill- Develop</span><span class="echo-item-text">mental QB who i like</span>
<span class="echo-item-text"> </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span>Im a big time Barret Jones fan but he is a Junior and I havent really got a sense from the Draft Community that he is coming out. Like the pick though.
Zeiter is a Wisconsin lineman thats not a bad thing.

Short is a good player doing the Short vs ohio state game next actually.

All the other guys are good players although I think Carder may go undraftedya i don't know for sure if he'll co<span class="echo-item-text">me out but if he does he'd be a nice pick and being a possible 1st rounder alot of ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes can be quite enticing Also we see guy surprise all the ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and co</span><span class="echo-item-text">me out when u least expect it That said i really don't like adding Jr's into </span><span class="echo-item-text">my </span><span class="echo-item-text">mocks because of just that Thanks for the insight
</span>

nycsportzfan
11-23-2011, 09:50 PM
i wonder if theres any chance we go CB in rd 1 again? I've thought about this a ton of ti<span class="echo-item-text">mes and usually co</span><span class="echo-item-text">me to conclusion that we probably won't But i</span><span class="echo-item-text">f we do pick in the 20's its gonna be hard to pass on guys like Casey Hayward(</span><span class="echo-item-text">mad good!) Chase</span><span class="echo-item-text"> minnifield(also </span><span class="echo-item-text">mad good!) and and of course Janoris Jenkins whos i loved last yr and is very talented U pair one of those guys with Prince and hold on to Terrell Tho</span><span class="echo-item-text">mas and u got a nice trio for the fu ture Thoughts on CB in the first the way the talent at this point see</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms to be going in the draft co</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span><span class="echo-item-text">munity?(</span><span class="echo-item-text">meaning theres gonna be a thousand changes by draft ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me as far as guys stocks going up and down and every which way)</span><span class="echo-item-text"></span>

myles2424
11-23-2011, 11:08 PM
*i wonder if theres any chance we go CB in rd 1 again? I've thought about this a ton of ti<span class="echo-item-text">mes and usually co</span><span class="echo-item-text">me to conclusion that we probably won't***** But i</span><span class="echo-item-text">f we do pick in the 20's its gonna be hard to pass on guys like Casey Hayward(</span><span class="echo-item-text">mad good!)* Chase</span><span class="echo-item-text"> minnifield(also </span><span class="echo-item-text">mad good!)** and* and* of course Janoris Jenkins whos* i loved last yr and is very talented**** U pair one of those guys with Prince and hold on to Terrell Tho</span><span class="echo-item-text">mas and u got a nice trio for the fu ture*** Thoughts on CB in the first the way the talent at this point see</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms to be going in the draft co</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span><span class="echo-item-text">munity?(</span><span class="echo-item-text">meaning theres gonna be a thousand changes by draft ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me as far as guys stocks going up and down and every which way)</span><span class="echo-item-text"></span> CB could very well be BPA...but what do u think happens with Webster? No way will we take a CB in the 1st to sit the bench or prince sit the bench.......so if that ever happend,it means Webster is gone or Thomas won't be the same player coming back

nycsportzfan
11-24-2011, 06:23 AM
i wonder if theres any chance we go CB in rd 1 again? I've thought about this a ton of ti<span class="echo-item-text">mes and usually co</span><span class="echo-item-text">me to conclusion that we probably won't But i</span><span class="echo-item-text">f we do pick in the 20's its gonna be hard to pass on guys like Casey Hayward(</span><span class="echo-item-text">mad good!) Chase</span><span class="echo-item-text"> minnifield(also </span><span class="echo-item-text">mad good!) and and of course Janoris Jenkins whos i loved last yr and is very talented U pair one of those guys with Prince and hold on to Terrell Tho</span><span class="echo-item-text">mas and u got a nice trio for the fu ture Thoughts on CB in the first the way the talent at this point see</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms to be going in the draft co</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span><span class="echo-item-text">munity?(</span><span class="echo-item-text">meaning theres gonna be a thousand changes by draft ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me as far as guys stocks going up and down and every which way)</span><span class="echo-item-text"></span> CB could very well be BPA...but what do u think happens with Webster? No way will we take a CB in the 1st to sit the bench or prince sit the bench.......so if that ever happend,it means Webster is gone or Thomas won't be the same player coming back one thing we know is what looks like a strength one second becomes a weakness the very next in the wacky nfl lol Webster is gonna be yet another yr older next season and if we collapse again this yr I just won't have the sentimental feelings toward losing some long time giants as 3 collapses in a row tells me that our Core is not getting it done and it may be time to start building around guys like JPP and NICKS and ELI

Raptor22
11-24-2011, 10:17 AM
IMO, if there's overwhelming value there, Reese will go CB... but I can see Reese managing to hang on to Thomas and Ross. that would make for a sick secondary: webby, Ross, TT, Prince, and Tryon..

thegreatone
11-24-2011, 11:24 AM
Ti<span class="echo-item-text">me for </span><span class="echo-item-text">my WEEKLY </span><span class="echo-item-text">mock DRAFT!* And as i figured**** Were getting back down the draft so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me after a e</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbaressing loss at ho</span><span class="echo-item-text">me yet again(seahawks other one)** Who didn't see this co</span><span class="echo-item-text">ming? I </span><span class="echo-item-text">mean when u need 4th qter co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mebacks to beat ARZ BUFF and DOLPHINS then u kinda get a idea we </span><span class="echo-item-text">may have so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me issues this yr and our record </span><span class="echo-item-text">may not indicate how good we are lol*** Anyways** I got us down to about pick 22 after last weeks debacle*** So here we go!

GIANTS PICKING 22nd OVERALL

1* Barrett Jones T/G Ba</span><span class="echo-item-text">ma- Stater at G in 09 and 10 before going to LT this yr*** Jones has played exceptionally well* this yr** If he co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes out i fully expect a 1st round selection* for hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m** Good size at 6ft 5in 311lbs** His versatility is fantastic! Outside of LT* hes even played C and LG and RT this season

2 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin-** Seasoned* vet on that Wisconsin Oline whos been* a beast for that wisconsin running ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me** and is exactly what the DR ordered for our poorus run blocking!* If Jones and Zeitler are both there in the low 20's of the 1st and 2nd round**** I think u pull the trigger!

3* Kawaan Short DT Purdue- I just love this kid and he </span><span class="echo-item-text">makes plays! With Austin not of played for 2yrs by the ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me he gets going for us and Canty another yr older and Bernard doing nothing as usual ** It * </span><span class="echo-item-text">may be good idea to get another DT in here to pair with Joseph and Austin going forward*** Short is a stout player who has been the heartbeat of his tea</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms defense and its sure fun to watch hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m play when hes in a zone!

4* Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text">martin RB Boise St-* I've liked Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text">martin for so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me an</span>d think he could be the next in the Ray Rice/ <span class="echo-item-text">mj</span>d line of short stout do everything RB's in this league
*
4 co<span class="echo-item-text">mp-* Dealano Howell S Stanford-* We need depth and howell is a solid safety who can </span><span class="echo-item-text">mix it up in the run ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is not a liability in coverege** I think Howell is gonna be* a very solid pro

5* Tank Carder LB TCU-* Kinda having a bit of a down season as far as what was anticipated outta hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m but i still like the way he plays the ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and there Defense dosen't have </span><span class="echo-item-text">much t</span>alent this yr so i think it has so<span class="echo-item-text">mething to do with his overall nu</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbers and if he slides to Rd 5*** It'd be great Value for a guy like Carder

6 Danton Lynn CB Penn St-* Nice depth CB this late

7* Chandler Harnish QB No Ill-* Develop</span><span class="echo-item-text">mental QB** who i like</span>
<span class="echo-item-text">* </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span>love this mock. Specially zeitlee, Martin, and tank

nycsportzfan
11-24-2011, 12:48 PM
IMO, if there's overwhelming value there, Reese will go CB... but I can see Reese managing to hang on to Thomas and Ross. that would make for a sick secondary: webby, Ross, TT, Prince, and Tryon..web will be another yr older and TT is coming off a injury and Ross is normally injury prone and inconsistent I think another CB makes more sense then some think and the UNIT isn't always consistent as is anyways Again the Value gots to be there though

Raptor22
11-24-2011, 01:25 PM
IMO, if there's overwhelming value there, Reese will go CB... but I can see Reese managing to hang on to Thomas and Ross. that would make for a sick secondary: webby, Ross, TT, Prince, and Tryon..web will be another yr* older and* TT is coming off a injury and Ross is normally injury prone and inconsistent***** I think another CB makes more sense then some think and the UNIT isn't always consistent as is anyways** Again the Value gots to be there though


exactly... the unit could.stand to be upgraded, but it is a very talented unit as it stands. If value's there, definitely go for it. Its kinda the same situation as the D-line in 2k9.

myles2424
11-24-2011, 03:55 PM
IMO, if there's overwhelming value there, Reese will go CB... but I can see Reese managing to hang on to Thomas and Ross. that would make for a sick secondary: webby, Ross, TT, Prince, and Tryon.. if that happened, it would mean TT won't ever be back to where he was or were splitting ways with Webster..

nycsportzfan
11-24-2011, 08:37 PM
IMO, if there's overwhelming value there, Reese will go CB... but I can see Reese managing to hang on to Thomas and Ross. that would make for a sick secondary: webby, Ross, TT, Prince, and Tryon..web will be another yr older and TT is coming off a injury and Ross is normally injury prone and inconsistent I think another CB makes more sense then some think and the UNIT isn't always consistent as is anyways Again the Value gots to be there though


exactly... the unit could.stand to be upgraded, but it is a very talented unit as it stands. If value's there, definitely go for it. Its kinda the same situation as the D-line in 2k9. Ya thats exactly how i feel As of now(it'll change a ton)

nycsportzfan
11-24-2011, 08:38 PM
Ryan Swope has looked suspect early on in the Tex Tex A&amp;m game(1st qter still) A couple grabs i think he should uh made he hasen't and looked rather unathletic while doing so

nycsportzfan
11-24-2011, 10:01 PM
i don't see how u touch Ryan Tannehill before RD 3-4 in the draft Hes just regressed 2 much this season maybe he gets it going 2nd half but to this point hes been pretty dredful all though there up 16-7 at the half Should be about 24-7 at worst I thought he was gonna be real good this yr but i'm just not impressed

Redeyejedi
11-25-2011, 08:49 AM
Really hope we get BCS Armageddon today and Arkansas beats LSU. 3 teams from the same conference 1,2 and 3 its nuts. The SEC is just so much better then everyone else.What sucks for Boise State is this looks like the year they may of had a shot to get in.That Georgia win is looking better and better as the season goes on

Redeyejedi
11-25-2011, 09:09 AM
i don't see how u touch Ryan Tannehill before RD 3-4 in the draft**** Hes just regressed 2 much this season**** maybe he gets it going 2nd half but to this point hes been pretty dredful all though there up 16-7 at the half**** Should be about 24-7 at worst*** I thought he was gonna be real good this yr but i'm just not impressedHes decision making is woeful at times and thats alarming. Still has the best combination of physical attributes for a QB in the draft.Probably will go in the 2nd round but he really needs to sit for a year or 2.Still makes more NFL throws on tape then any QB in this draft.

tonyt830
11-25-2011, 01:53 PM
Ok her goes---my 1st mock(early for me) not including FA or potential trades in the offseason---feel free to critique, my rounds certain players are drafted may be off.</P>


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Rd 1-- Peter Konz--C--Wisconsin--move Baas to LG? Alt pick--Luke Kuechly-ILB</P>


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Rd 2---Coby Fleener--TE-Stanford--enough of the Beckum experiment! Alt pick--Kevin Zeitler G/Chris Polk--RB</P>


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Rd 3---Brandon Boykin--CB--Thomas coming off 2nd ACL surgery on the same knee and he is a FA. Alternate pick---Emmanuel Acho--ILB/Monte Ball--RB</P>


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Rd 4--Nigel Bradham--OLB--move Kiwi back to a F/T DE. Alternate pick--Bernard Pierce--RB/Casey Hayward--CB</P>


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Rd 5--Nick Foles--QB--some young talent to groom behind Eli. Alternate Pick---Greg Childs--WR</P>


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Rd 6---Tyrone Crawford--DE Boise St---Alternate pick---Kellen Moore QB</P>


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Rd 7--Blake DeChristopher-OT Virginia Tech.</P>


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Edit: this also does not include comp picks. Maybe an extra 4th rder for Cofield and a 6th/7th for Boss and Smith?</P>

Redeyejedi
11-25-2011, 02:53 PM
Arkansas can win this game but they have to stop Mingo and Montgeomery. Mingo my top rated 3-4 OLB in 2013

Redeyejedi
11-25-2011, 03:21 PM
Wow Jarius Wright is a really good slot receiver. Burns Ron Brooks who falls down on an option route for 13 yards and a Touchdown

tonyt830
11-25-2011, 03:47 PM
I have nothing against LSU, actually kind of like them, but I would love to see Arkansas win, even with their quitter coach Petrino. I just wanna see a BCS mess come Sunday. Imagine Auburn wins over Bama and Oklahoma beats Oklahoma St? Throw in a possible Georgia win over Arkansas(hypothetically) in the SEC championship? Wow what a mess! Can you hear more and more people calling for a playoff?

nycsportzfan
11-25-2011, 04:36 PM
i don't see how u touch Ryan Tannehill before RD 3-4 in the draft Hes just regressed 2 much this season maybe he gets it going 2nd half but to this point hes been pretty dredful all though there up 16-7 at the half Should be about 24-7 at worst I thought he was gonna be real good this yr but i'm just not impressedHes decision making is woeful at times and thats alarming. Still has the best combination of physical attributes for a QB in the draft.Probably will go in the 2nd round but he really needs to sit for a year or 2.Still makes more NFL throws on tape then any QB in this draft. He stares down his Wr's more then any QB in this class as well lol Its why he gets so many balls batted in his face which is also alarming I think Foles is better then Tannehill as far as making NFL throws I coulden't take Tannehill in the 2nd round seeing what i've seen this yr He was just flat out dreadful again yesterday I've completely soured on him

nycsportzfan
11-25-2011, 04:37 PM
Ti<span class="echo-item-text">me for </span><span class="echo-item-text">my WEEKLY </span><span class="echo-item-text">mock DRAFT! And as i figured Were getting back down the draft so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me after a e</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbaressing loss at ho</span><span class="echo-item-text">me yet again(seahawks other one) Who didn't see this co</span><span class="echo-item-text">ming? I </span><span class="echo-item-text">mean when u need 4th qter co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mebacks to beat ARZ BUFF and DOLPHINS then u kinda get a idea we </span><span class="echo-item-text">may have so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me issues this yr and our record </span><span class="echo-item-text">may not indicate how good we are lol Anyways I got us down to about pick 22 after last weeks debacle So here we go!

GIANTS PICKING 22nd OVERALL

1 Barrett Jones T/G Ba</span><span class="echo-item-text">ma- Stater at G in 09 and 10 before going to LT this yr Jones has played exceptionally well this yr If he co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes out i fully expect a 1st round selection for hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m Good size at 6ft 5in 311lbs His versatility is fantastic! Outside of LT hes even played C and LG and RT this season

2 Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin- Seasoned vet on that Wisconsin Oline whos been a beast for that wisconsin running ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is exactly what the DR ordered for our poorus run blocking! If Jones and Zeitler are both there in the low 20's of the 1st and 2nd round I think u pull the trigger!

3 Kawaan Short DT Purdue- I just love this kid and he </span><span class="echo-item-text">makes plays! With Austin not of played for 2yrs by the ti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me he gets going for us and Canty another yr older and Bernard doing nothing as usual It </span><span class="echo-item-text">may be good idea to get another DT in here to pair with Joseph and Austin going forward Short is a stout player who has been the heartbeat of his tea</span><span class="echo-item-text">ms defense and its sure fun to watch hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m play when hes in a zone!

4 Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text">martin RB Boise St- I've liked Doug </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text">martin for so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meti</span><span class="echo-item-text">me an</span>d think he could be the next in the Ray Rice/ <span class="echo-item-text">mj</span>d line of short stout do everything RB's in this league

4 co<span class="echo-item-text">mp- Dealano Howell S Stanford- We need depth and howell is a solid safety who can </span><span class="echo-item-text">mix it up in the run ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and is not a liability in coverege I think Howell is gonna be a very solid pro

5 Tank Carder LB TCU- Kinda having a bit of a down season as far as what was anticipated outta hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m but i still like the way he plays the ga</span><span class="echo-item-text">me and there Defense dosen't have </span><span class="echo-item-text">much t</span>alent this yr so i think it has so<span class="echo-item-text">mething to do with his overall nu</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbers and if he slides to Rd 5 It'd be great Value for a guy like Carder

6 Danton Lynn CB Penn St- Nice depth CB this late

7 Chandler Harnish QB No Ill- Develop</span><span class="echo-item-text">mental QB who i like</span>
<span class="echo-item-text"> </span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span><span class="echo-item-text"></span>love this mock. Specially zeitlee, Martin, and tank thanks my freind

nycsportzfan
11-25-2011, 04:42 PM
man Eric Page Wr Toledo has 16recept 145yrds with a ton of time left in the 4th qter still Hes gonna get drafted as a slot reciever by someone Hes got poor mans Steve Smith written all over him

nycsportzfan
11-25-2011, 05:57 PM
who on these boards was talking about not liking Luke Kuechly and hes not Athletic??? LOL The dude is a flat out animal and a flat out Wild Beast! Dude is just dominating miami and stopped Lamar miller in one on one situation with Lamar getting a bit of steam first and hes also had a sweet Pick 6 and made other incredible stops as well! Hes really freaking phenomanol!

nycsportzfan
11-25-2011, 06:00 PM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season! What a season and career to this point hes had The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out Hes fantastic!

CGYgiant
11-25-2011, 11:51 PM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season!* What a season and career to this point hes had*** The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out** Hes fantastic!


I like the looks of this kid, hopefully we get a chance at drafting him.

Whatever happened to Travis Lewis? Haven't heard a lot of people talking about his this year, last year he was essentially a first round lock.

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 03:12 AM
who on these boards was talking about not liking Luke Kuechly and hes not Athletic??? LOL The dude is a flat out animal and a flat out Wild Beast! Dude is just dominating miami and stopped Lamar miller in one on one situation with Lamar getting a bit of steam first and hes also had a sweet Pick 6 and made other incredible stops as well! Hes really freaking phenomanol!

I agree 100%. Thats the point I was trying to make in the other thread. I watched him chase own Davonte Freeman of FSU, a freshman RB who is fast as lightning and sure to be a guy people are talking about on these boards a couple years down the line.

That is why I said that Kuechly may really surprise at the combine. He is not a "marginal athlete" that many here seem to think.

tonyt830
11-26-2011, 04:38 AM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up the combine, they're not going in the 1st.

IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.

As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.

In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st. If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season! What a season and career to this point hes had The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out Hes fantastic!
I like the looks of this kid, hopefully we get a chance at drafting him. Whatever happened to Travis Lewis? Haven't heard a lot of people talking about his this year, last year he was essentially a first round lock.If I'm not mistaken, I think I remember Travis Lewis got hurt right before the season started. But I think he is back now, just not putting up eye popping numbers?

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 06:29 AM
who on these boards was talking about not liking Luke Kuechly and hes not Athletic??? LOL The dude is a flat out animal and a flat out Wild Beast! Dude is just dominating miami and stopped Lamar miller in one on one situation with Lamar getting a bit of steam first and hes also had a sweet Pick 6 and made other incredible stops as well! Hes really freaking phenomanol!

I agree 100%. Thats the point I was trying to make in the other thread. I watched him chase own Davonte Freeman of FSU, a freshman RB who is fast as lightning and sure to be a guy people are talking about on these boards a couple years down the line.

That is why I said that Kuechly may really surprise at the combine. He is not a "marginal athlete" that many here seem to think.
I swear that its a race thing(hate to say it) and its because hes a white boy that people say that I agree with what u said totally! Hes just outstanding!

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 06:33 AM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season! What a season and career to this point hes had The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out Hes fantastic!


I like the looks of this kid, hopefully we get a chance at drafting him.

Whatever happened to Travis Lewis? Haven't heard a lot of people talking about his this year, last year he was essentially a first round lock.To be honest i hope he does have a slightly bad combine if were picking in the 20's, just so we can pick him lol Hes gonna be a impact player for sure! I have a solid eye for seeing players that u just can tell are gonna be good, and i think Kuechly falls right into that group I would be so excited to see Kuechly become a giant!

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 07:10 AM
i was looking at some bowl perdictions from a couple sites and one thing that stuck out to me is that there is gonna be some non ELITE teams in some major bowls this yr There just isn't a ton of elite teams I seen a michigan/houston Sugar Bowl perdiction which would be a really fun game but i'm just not sure either is desrving I'm all about small schools getting a shot and Boise has proven to us that they can make noise but Houston has not beat anyone at all really! Outside of UCLA At least Boise had 1or2 signature WINS along there way to there games And michigan just isn't as good as there record indicates I woulden't be shocked if Ohio St beat them(all though i woulden't bet on it) The BIG EAST is gonna have a Team in a major bowl and i don't think any is desrving and i also don't think any ACC team outside of Va Tech is desrving I wish they'd just use whoever had the most desrving credentials for all bowls I do love the funky matchups in the bowls though I'd like to see Houston get Oklahoma St if there gonna get anyone Either way there is gonna be some weaker teams this yr getting in because this yr just dosen't have a ton of "elite" teams around Outside of i'd say LSU/ BAmA/ OREGON Those are the only 3teams i'd give "ELITE" status 2

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 08:16 AM
who on these boards was talking about not liking Luke Kuechly and hes not Athletic??? LOL The dude is a flat out animal and a flat out Wild Beast! Dude is just dominating miami and stopped Lamar miller in one on one situation with Lamar getting a bit of steam first and hes also had a sweet Pick 6 and made other incredible stops as well! Hes really freaking phenomanol!

I agree 100%. Thats the point I was trying to make in the other thread. I watched him chase own Davonte Freeman of FSU, a freshman RB who is fast as lightning and sure to be a guy people are talking about on these boards a couple years down the line.

That is why I said that Kuechly may really surprise at the combine. He is not a "marginal athlete" that many here seem to think.
I swear that its a race thing(hate to say it) and its because hes a white boy that people say that I agree with what u said totally! Hes just outstanding!


Yep, I dont really care who thinks it as long as its not Reese

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 09:18 AM
LOL did U guys see Todd MCshay's write up of Whitney Mercilus

Whitney Mercilus DT 6-3 363 pounds

Mercilus has a massive frame and moves well for his size.He's Tough to move in the middle and could fit well as a Two gap run stopper in a 3-4 Scheme

LOL what an ***

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 09:25 AM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.

Raptor22
11-26-2011, 10:27 AM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season! What a season and career to this point hes had The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out Hes fantastic!


I've never said he isn't a first round talent. He's been my favorite linebacker since last offseason (and people were calling me all sorts of names for liking him over Burfict). I just haven't seen the kind of freakish athleticism that a LB needs to go in the first. I'm not saying he can't, maybe his spider-sense like instincts overshadow his athleticism.

I just think that he's one of those players, at a position that has taken a value hit as of late, who's stock is going to be unfairly weighted by the combine. And, IMO, being white doesn't help matters any. If he has a merely 'good' combine, I can see GM's talking themselves out of the pick rather than trusting their eyes and the game tape. I just can't remember game tape vaulting a player up over a combine performance, but we've all seen combine numbers trump game tape (Julio Jones anyone?).

What SHOULD happen, and what DOES happen ain't always the same...

tonyt830
11-26-2011, 11:13 AM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.Well maybe the Lions draft him, he may fit in well with Suh---LOL!! You think that he could drop into the 2nd rd Redeye, due to his lack of control/temper?</P>


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I was watching some of that game before I went to bed---when did he get benched?</P>

tdawg1413
11-26-2011, 12:12 PM
Burfict is definitely going to drop to round 2 I believe. The combination of bad attitude and very inconsistent play will do him in. His interview process will be very big.

Also from that game, ASU RB Cameron Marshall looks to be a very good player. He is a junior so he may not come out but he ran hard and had some wiggle to him, can catch out of the backfield and was excellent in pass protection. A sleeper to watch.

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 01:35 PM
Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season!* What a season and career to this point hes had*** The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out** Hes fantastic!


I've never said he isn't a first round talent. He's been my favorite linebacker since last offseason (and people were calling me all sorts of names for liking him over Burfict). I just haven't seen the kind of freakish athleticism that a LB needs to go in the first. I'm not saying he can't, maybe his spider-sense like instincts overshadow his athleticism.

I just think that he's one of those players, at a position that has taken a value hit as of late, who's stock is going to be unfairly weighted by the combine. And, IMO, being white doesn't help matters any. If he has a merely 'good' combine, I can see GM's talking themselves out of the pick rather than trusting their eyes and the game tape. I just can't remember game tape vaulting a player up over a combine performance, but we've all seen combine numbers trump game tape (Julio Jones anyone?).

What SHOULD happen, and what DOES happen ain't always the same...*


Kind of sums it up.He is a very good player but someone that could get unfairly judged it happens every year.

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 01:40 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.Well maybe the Lions draft him, he may fit in well with Suh---LOL!!* You think that he could drop into the 2nd rd Redeye, due to his lack of control/temper?</P>


*</P>


I was watching some of that game before I went to bed---when did he get benched?</P>I think his tape is awful from this season. Constantly over running plays. He misreads plays. He has no discipline in his gap assignments. I watched a lot of tape on Burfict early in the season but I became so disgusted I stopped watching it. All the things i expected to see improvement on never happened and in fact it became worse. So disappointed in this guy I had really high hopes

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 05:15 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.Well maybe the Lions draft him, he may fit in well with Suh---LOL!! You think that he could drop into the 2nd rd Redeye, due to his lack of control/temper?</p>


</p>


I was watching some of that game before I went to bed---when did he get benched?</p>I think his tape is awful from this season. Constantly over running plays. He misreads plays. He has no discipline in his gap assignments. I watched a lot of tape on Burfict early in the season but I became so disgusted I stopped watching it. All the things i expected to see improvement on never happened and in fact it became worse. So disappointed in this guy I had really high hopes

I will be very if he is drafted by a 4-3 team.

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 05:18 PM
I just can't remember game tape vaulting a player up over a combine performance, but we've all seen combine numbers trump game tape (Julio Jones anyone?).




Im not really disagreeing with your point, just your example. Julio Jones had some pretty amazing game tape to go with his amazing combine.

So in conclusion, yes Im nitpicking and you love it.

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:25 PM
g


Okay, I was going to post this over in the LB thread, but it got a little off topic, so its going here:

I honestly believe that Kuechly will fall into the 2nd round. "Solid
Athletes" do not get drafted in the first round. It really doesn't
matter how good a football player they are, if somebody doesn't blow up
the combine, they're not going in the 1st.



IMO, Courtney Upshaw, Dont'a Hightower (if he comes out), and Zach Brown
will vie for first LB off the board (Upshaw is my pick to go first, and
to some 34 team in need of a passrusher, I'm thinking maybe Chargers or
Pats). Also, I'm thinking the Ravens will grab Burfict, particularly if
they miss the playoffs. Indy probably wants another Peyton, so I can
see Baltimore wanting another Ray Lewis.



As for the Giants, I think Kuechly in the 2nd is a classic Reese pick. Insane value at a position of need.



In the 1st I'm thinking either Dwayne Allen, Mike Martin, or some
road-grader C/G that fell due to not being secksy enough (Snee-II). Both
fit the Giants' mold, and both could/should be there in the late 1st.
If they don't get Martin in the 1st, I could see Jarrod Crick falling to
the 3rd, (undersized and injured, not a good combination) and would be an absurd value there.
Kuchley is going round 1 no questions asked! Dude is super athletic and a super playmaker whos just dominted the U in the finale of the reg season! What a season and career to this point hes had The announers were just sold hes going ROUND 1 and has to come out Hes fantastic!


I've never said he isn't a first round talent. He's been my favorite linebacker since last offseason (and people were calling me all sorts of names for liking him over Burfict). I just haven't seen the kind of freakish athleticism that a LB needs to go in the first. I'm not saying he can't, maybe his spider-sense like instincts overshadow his athleticism.

I just think that he's one of those players, at a position that has taken a value hit as of late, who's stock is going to be unfairly weighted by the combine. And, IMO, being white doesn't help matters any. If he has a merely 'good' combine, I can see GM's talking themselves out of the pick rather than trusting their eyes and the game tape. I just can't remember game tape vaulting a player up over a combine e performance, but we've all seen combine numbers trump game tape (Julio Jones anyone?).

What SHOULD happen, and what DOES happen ain't always the same...


I think he goes RD 1 no matter what happens at the combine Hes just to active and has the proper size and charechter and his game tape is amazing! He'll fall somewhere in Between where Aj Hawk and James Laurinitis were drafted So somewhere between 5th in 1st round- 3rd pick of 2nd round That lands u plenty in the 1st round

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:30 PM
Logan Thomas just gets better and better God he shows some good touch on throws which u woulden't think he'd be doing at this point in his maturity Wilson of ARK and Thomas of Tech are gonna be fighting for top QB honor in College next yr i think I'll throw Brock Osweiler in the mix as well!

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:31 PM
LOL did U guys see Todd MCshay's write up of Whitney Mercilus

Whitney Mercilus DT 6-3 363 pounds

Mercilus has a massive frame and moves well for his size.He's Tough to move in the middle and could fit well as a Two gap run stopper in a 3-4 Scheme

LOL what an *** hahahhaah!!!

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:33 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season. I agree! I stuck up for him for awhile but i'm past all that U watched the game last night? How about Brock Osweiler? That dude can make all the throws! Super looking QB prospect in my opinion

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:35 PM
Do me a favor and take a look at JONAS GRAY RB IRISH tonight if u get a chance Cierre Wood is fantastic but GRAY is someone i think is a bigtime sleeper and given a chance can become a contributor in the NFL and possibly more He truly earned his playing time and as either a 6th-7th rd pick or UDF He could be a steal!

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:38 PM
Do me a favor and take a look at JONAS GRAY RB IRISH tond night if u get a chance Cierre Wood is fantastic but GRAY is someone i think is a bigtime sleeper and given a chance can become a contributor in the NFL and possibly more He truly earned his playing time and as either a 6th-7th rd pick or UDF He could be a steal!
wow GRAY is out for the yr with Knee injury so never mind about that lol He has avereged over 6yrds per carry and 791yrd rushing and 12tds on 114attemps this season

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 05:40 PM
Again Don't mind my posts guys! The Period button and comma and a few letters dosen't work and i'm to lazy to copy and paste every other second lol So just don't mind my grammar not that it is great anyhowlol

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 06:14 PM
I assume you guys have eyes on the VT v UVA game. The more I see of David Wilson the more I like what I see. Huge play after huge play.

Raptor22
11-26-2011, 06:53 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.* I agree! I stuck up for him for awhile but i'm past all that**** U watched the game last night?*** How about Brock Osweiler?** That dude can make all the throws!* Super looking QB prospect in my opinion


Osweiler's my favorite QB next year... and he Damn well BETTER be able to make all the throws... his release point is only about 9 feet in the air... imagine him with a Plax or Barden type receiver (or NE's tight ends?)?

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 07:10 PM
I assume you guys have eyes on the VT v UVA game. The more I see of David Wilson the more I like what I see. Huge play after huge play.
ya I seen some nice runs by him in that one making something outta nothing I was really impressed with there QB Logan Thomas Hes really progressing quickly!

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 07:14 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season. I agree! I stuck up for him for awhile but i'm past all that U watched the game last night? How about Brock Osweiler? That dude can make all the throws! Super looking QB prospect in my opinion


Osweiler's my favorite QB next year... and he Damn well BETTER be able to make all the throws... his release point is only about 9 feet in the air... imagine him with a Plax or Barden type receiver (or NE's tight ends?)? I really like Tyler Wilson as well but Osweiler is right up there! Tahj Boyd is in the mix but i want to see how he comes out after a dud last wk tonight against a solid D in S Carolina I soured on Boyd a bit lately with his erratic accuracy Osweiler Wilson and Logan Thomas are the 3 that excite me the most though A sleeper would be Glennon from Nc State

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 07:17 PM
I had to mention how bad maryland is to u guys LOL They were up 41-14 with 10min to go in the 3rd Qter and not only lost but lost by Double digits and Nc State actually covered a -12 point spread lol Wow! I took Nc State thats why i checked LOL Got a pick 6 with 27seconds to go to get the spread! Also nc state outscored the terps 35-0 in the 4th qter lol

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 07:20 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season.* I agree! I stuck up for him for awhile but i'm past all that**** U watched the game last night?*** How about Brock Osweiler?** That dude can make all the throws!* Super looking QB prospect in my opinion


Osweiler's my favorite QB next year... and he Damn well BETTER be able to make all the throws... his release point is only about 9 feet in the air... imagine him with a Plax or Barden type receiver (or NE's tight ends?)? I really like Tyler Wilson as well*** but Osweiler is right up there!* Tahj Boyd is in the mix but i want to see how he comes out after a dud last wk***** tonight against a solid D in S Carolina*** I soured on Boyd a bit lately with his erratic accuracy*** Osweiler* Wilson** and Logan Thomas are the 3 that excite me the most though***** A sleeper would be Glennon from Nc State
Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray are the 2 best in my opinion. Logan Thomas is very intriguing prospect though

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 07:28 PM
Ej manuel sucks!!!lol Super inaccurate and just plays super sloppy I don't care for him at all

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 07:30 PM
Burfict got benched last night in ASU's loss for personal fouls. Probably will enter the draft with mountains of awful tape from this season. I agree! I stuck up for him for awhile but i'm past all that U watched the game last night? How about Brock Osweiler? That dude can make all the throws! Super looking QB prospect in my opinion


Osweiler's my favorite QB next year... and he Damn well BETTER be able to make all the throws... his release point is only about 9 feet in the air... imagine him with a Plax or Barden type receiver (or NE's tight ends?)? I really like Tyler Wilson as well but Osweiler is right up there! Tahj Boyd is in the mix but i want to see how he comes out after a dud last wk tonight against a solid D in S Carolina I soured on Boyd a bit lately with his erratic accuracy Osweiler Wilson and Logan Thomas are the 3 that excite me the most though A sleeper would be Glennon from Nc State
Tyler Bray and Aaron Murray are the 2 best in my opinion. Logan Thomas is very intriguing prospect though I knew i was forgetting someone! Aaron murray is right up there for me as well! Bray isn't quite as high but i see the intrigue I'd go like this with rankings

1 Tyler Wilson QB Ark
2 Brock Osweiler QB Arz St
3 Aaron murray QB GA
4 Logan Thomas QB Tech
5 Bray and Boyd

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 07:33 PM
Ej manuel sucks!!!lol Super inaccurate and just plays super sloppy I don't care for him at all


ya, not a fan of his either. He does too many dumb things.

BlueSanta
11-26-2011, 07:43 PM
I assume you guys have eyes on the VT v UVA game. The more I see of David Wilson the more I like what I see. Huge play after huge play.
ya I seen some nice runs by him in that one making something outta nothing I was really impressed with there QB Logan Thomas Hes really progressing quickly!


Yep, we have talked about him b4. No player in college football has improved more from week 1 that he has.

I still hesitate because of Beemer's system. Its such a basic system than it doesnt test a players ability to make NFL reads. But, its hard not to like everything you can see from Logan.

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 08:19 PM
Ej manuel sucks!!!lol Super inaccurate and just plays super sloppy I don't care for him at all


ya, not a fan of his either. He does too many dumb things.
How about Tahj Boyd?? Hes really been playing badly lately Its early in todays Game but still hes 0-3 with only 4min to go in Qter 1 I thought People were alittle giddy on him to early but he did so well I thought i was wrong but latley i don't know Boyd and manul both aren't showing enough to me to think much as far as NFL 1st RD QB's are concerened

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 08:24 PM
I mentioned some guys i was dead wrong on Draft Wise over the past 3-4 yrs and now i want to bring up a guy i was heavily debated against for not Liking him nearly as much as others as i never seen him as a Full time back and worried about injuries and him fitting in a offense and thats CJ SPILLER! So far hes been a bust in my opinion hes got a huge OPP this week with Fred Jackson out but to this point hes been a DUD and i can't tell ya how many were against me with that one Especially BUDDY!!!lol

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 09:02 PM
* I mentioned some guys i was dead wrong on Draft Wise over the past 3-4 yrs**** and now i want to bring up a guy i was heavily debated against for not Liking him nearly as much as others as i never seen him as a* Full time back and worried about injuries and him fitting in a offense and thats* CJ SPILLER!* So far hes been a bust in my opinion******* hes got a huge OPP this week with Fred Jackson out but to this point*** hes been a DUD and i can't tell ya how many were against me with that one*** Especially BUDDY!!!lol
I liked Spiller but Spiller has been a bust. The moment he was taken by the Bills I knew he was finished. Spiller needed to go to a team like the Saints or Chargers. Spiller still should of done more but I always maintained he wasnt an every down RB.

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 09:07 PM
Notre Dame is killing themselves tonight

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 09:10 PM
Notre Dame is killing themselves tonight So is stanford by not doing nothing with what there getting from ND Is it just me or does Luck look kinda not so sharp the last few weeks? Hes been kinda ordinary for a bunch of weeks now and thrown 6picks in his last 5games with still a Whole half and some to play I'd like to see him get back to mr Invincible



Wow ND missed a chip FG LOL Still Stanford is only up 7-0!

Redeyejedi
11-26-2011, 09:10 PM
Man there are not enough Kickers in CFB

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 09:28 PM
Man there are not enough Kickers in CFB U aren't kidding!!lol


U catching any of the Slop in the Swamp? I bet Fla St so i'm going back and fourth Ej manuel is so freaking inaccurate and indecisive at this point I don't know whos regressed more EJ or BOYD

nycsportzfan
11-26-2011, 09:34 PM
wow EJ manuel just made the dumbest throw ever!!!!lol Should of been pick 6 Instead Fla's S Elam dropped the ball! Terrible pass! Hes been pretty terrible THe only reason they scored at all is off of 3 Brantley first Half INT's What terrible QB's in this one so far Albeit great defensive players scattered through out as well

Raptor22
11-26-2011, 10:17 PM
Goddamn this South Carolina D-line is beastly. They're just dominating the LOS.

nycsportzfan
11-27-2011, 12:27 AM
Wow Robert Woods just made a sensational TD grab on a 4yr FADE pass from Barkley! U guys gotta check it out when u get a chance! I'm sure they'll be showing it By the way Barkley is getting my Vote for Heisman over luck Barkley is freaking turning into a In human freak of a QB! Seriously don't be surprised when there is a debate about what QB is going first Hes just been freaking brilliant this season I like Barkley just a bit better then luck and that was earned by Barkley as i haven't felt like that always(obviously)

All though it helps when u got marquise lee and robert woods who are also outter worldly!

nycsportzfan
11-27-2011, 12:29 AM
Goddamn this South Carolina D-line is beastly. They're just dominating the LOS. There very good indeed All though NC STATE dominated CLE offense last week and this week that same D gave up 41points to pathetic Terps lol Clemson has been playing terribly lately! Like i was saying even before the dreadful performance by BOYD tonight hes fallen off as has Ej manuel

nycsportzfan
11-27-2011, 02:09 AM
montee ball has 29tds rushing and another 5 receiving! Wow!

Redeyejedi
11-29-2011, 10:00 AM
Im voting for Tyrann Mathieu on my Heisman ballot for Draftbreakdown</P>

Redeyejedi
11-29-2011, 10:02 AM
Notre Dame is killing themselves tonight So is stanford by not doing nothing with what there getting from ND Is it just me or does Luck look kinda not so sharp the last few weeks? Hes been kinda ordinary for a bunch of weeks now and thrown 6picks in his last 5games with still a Whole half and some to play I'd like to see him get back to mr Invincible



Wow ND missed a chip FG LOL Still Stanford is only up 7-0!
I know u think he has talent on the outside but I think his WR's kind of suck.

Redeyejedi
11-30-2011, 12:57 PM
David Wilson looks like he is entering the draft.Smart Move</P>


http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/11/30/2600615/david-wilson-of-virginia-tech-submitting-2012-nfl-draft-paperwork</P>

Redeyejedi
11-30-2011, 08:47 PM
Did anyone see Nebraska Iowa from this week. Man Lavonte David is really good. He can blitz,he can run with Tight ends down the seam in man, good in zone coverage. Great tackler. If he was 240 pounds he would be the best LB in the draft. That being said he is maybe 220. He is the size of a big safety and his frame isnt really big enough to carry to much more weight. This guy could be a demon in the right system.

BlueSanta
12-01-2011, 01:05 AM
David Wilson looks like he is entering the draft.Smart Move</p>


http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/11/30/2600615/david-wilson-of-virginia-tech-submitting-2012-nfl-draft-paperwork</p>

Thats actually just entering the process to see where the advisary board thinks he would be drafted if he did come out.

Still, I would be SHOCKED if he didnt leave school this year.

He is a dynamic back and 1 of the best open field runners in college football. He is LaMichael James, but with better size.

myles2424
12-01-2011, 02:02 AM
David Wilson looks like he is entering the draft.Smart Move</P>


http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/11/30/2600615/david-wilson-of-virginia-tech-submitting-2012-nfl-draft-paperwork</P> I'd love to able to land him & Kuechly......BPA the rest of the way

nycsportzfan
12-01-2011, 06:01 AM
Did anyone see Nebraska Iowa from this week. Man Lavonte David is really good. He can blitz,he can run with Tight ends down the seam in man, good in zone coverage. Great tackler. If he was 240 pounds he would be the best LB in the draft. That being said he is maybe 220. He is the size of a big safety and his frame isnt really big enough to carry to much more weight. This guy could be a demon in the right system. I honestly think we got something in Jaquain but as we learned in Goffs first real action It does not matter if your good or not if your on a incredibly crappy defense because its just not possible to be one guy playing awesome when everyone else stinks We gotta get at least a glimpse of pass rush from time to time and then maybe u will see guys like Williams make a few more plays I do like Lavonte alot though and would understand if we took a WLB at some point in the first few rounds if the Value was right I wonder if Reese would jump on Travis Lewis if he were there in say Rd 3? That is some serious value and i think someone gets a steal if they get lewis in RD 3! His stocks down now becuase of Injuries and what not which is good because we may be able to steal him come draft time I've seen that guy dominate at times when healthy and i believe he has that "it" factor and is just good at football David and Lewis are both guys i really like But i also like Jaquain

First things first We gotta find a way to get Kuechly in blue! That guy is a flat out game changer in my opinion I think Kuechly is gonna be this yrs Earl Thomas Kenny Britt or Akeem Ayers for me lol So be ready!!!lol

nycsportzfan
12-01-2011, 06:07 AM
Hey Redeye It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee Hes had 6plus Tackles in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended ! And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well! I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol

tonyt830
12-01-2011, 07:04 AM
*Hey Redeye**** It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee*** Hes had 6plus Tackles* in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended !*** And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well!****** I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol**** Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol
yeah nyc, Ayers has been playing pretty good for the titans. I have watched them some, since I live in the Titans market. He has been playing a lot of the SAM position. And Ruud has missed some time at mike, so McCarthy has filled in and played pretty well as well. As for Britt he has talent and the tools, but just needs to mature from the neck up!

Redeyejedi
12-01-2011, 10:27 AM
*Hey Redeye**** It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee*** Hes had 6plus Tackles* in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended !*** And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well!****** I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol**** Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol

Britt is so frustrating because there is talent there. Its hard to blame either of us on that one.We dont have access to his background checks. On talent alone Britt is really good.

Earl Thomas I never said I didnt like although its been morphed into that. Just wouldnt take him as high as the Seahawks did and didnt think he was an ideal fit for the Giants.He has been beaten more in coverage then I thought he would and has made more plays in the box then I thought he would.

Ayers I havent seen much of. In fact I dont remember seeing one quarter of any of there games this year

Redeyejedi
12-01-2011, 12:32 PM
Top 5 4-3 WLB

1. Jarvis Jones Georgia

2. Zach Brown UNC

3. Travis Lewis Oklahoma

4. Lavonte David Nebraska

5. Keenan Robinson Texas

Raptor22
12-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Did anyone see Nebraska Iowa from this week. Man Lavonte David is really good. He can blitz,he can run with Tight ends down the seam in man, good in zone coverage. Great tackler. If he was 240 pounds he would be the best LB in the draft. That being said he is maybe 220. He is the size of a big safety and his frame isnt really big enough to carry to much more weight. This guy could be a demon in the right system. I honestly think we got something in Jaquain*** but* as we learned in Goffs first real action**** It does not matter if your good or not if your on a incredibly crappy defense because its just not possible to be one guy playing awesome when everyone else stinks*** We gotta get at least a glimpse of pass rush from time to time and then maybe u will see guys like Williams make a few more plays******** I do like Lavonte alot though and would understand if we took a* WLB** at some point in the first few rounds if the Value was right***** I wonder if Reese would jump on Travis Lewis if he were there in say* Rd 3?* That* is some serious value and i think someone gets a steal if they get lewis in RD 3!* His stocks down now becuase of Injuries and what not** which is good* because we may be able to steal him* come draft time***** I've seen that guy dominate at times when healthy and* i believe he has that "it" factor and is just good at football****** David and Lewis are both guys i really like***** But i also like Jaquain****

First thing
s first**** We gotta find a way to get Kuechly in blue!* That guy is a flat out* game changer in my opinion****** I think Kuechly is gonna be this yrs* Earl Thomas** Kenny Britt or Akeem Ayers for me lol** So be ready!!!lol


I've actually scratched Lewis off my draft board. In light of the last few seasons, I now grade on Heart/Hustle/Durability then height/weight/speed. The upside here is that it still allows me to be high on Martin, Kuechly, and LaMicheal James (who I still consider to be durable because of how many snaps he gets):-)

in short, I've decided to pike guys that are great football players who happen to also be great athletes, rather than the other way around (at least through rds 1-4)

nycsportzfan
12-02-2011, 06:18 AM
Hey Redeye It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee Hes had 6plus Tackles in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended ! And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well! I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol

Britt is so frustrating because there is talent there. Its hard to blame either of us on that one.We dont have access to his background checks. On talent alone Britt is really good.

Earl Thomas I never said I didnt like although its been morphed into that. Just wouldnt take him as high as the Seahawks did and didnt think he was an ideal fit for the Giants.He has been beaten more in coverage then I thought he would and has made more plays in the box then I thought he would.

Ayers I havent seen much of. In fact I dont remember seeing one quarter of any of there games this year Ya Earl made more plays on the ball last yr but hes still having a splendid 2nd season and i've seen some put him in the probowl this yr Albeit becuase its a weakish crop of FS in the NFC but never the less! Earl is turning into a stud that can do it all and we'd be lucky to have him hes pretty much exactly what we need A true all around Safety that can make plays on the ball and still be effective at the line of scrimmage THe only thing i thought u guys were to hard on with Earl was his size U guys took that one way to far He was one of those players u just watched and could see "IT" written all over em

As for Ayers Hes picked up recently and seems to be getting that defense down as his Rookie Season progresses and judging by the little i've seen We'd be lucky to have em and i'd almost gurantee he'd be considered one of our Future Building blocks for our defense to go along with Jpp and Prince

Britt is sensational even when hes F'in up Which tells u how good he is! The only thing stopping him is his stupid injuries He'd probably be Andre Johnson type good if he could keep his head on straight and healthy becuase hes as good as he is now while running from cops and seemingly always recovering from a injury hes another guy like Earl Thomas that seemed very easy to tell that he was gonna be good U could just see it U know that feeling im talking about redeye! Certain guys u just try to assess and u could be wrong or right and there is those few u just feel its almost a forgone conclusion there gonna be good in the pros I felt that way about Kenny and Earl As far as Ayers I thought he'd be good but i didn't have that same "guranteed" type feeling in my gut which is obviously not something u feel with just every prospect u like As it don't work like that

nycsportzfan
12-02-2011, 07:11 AM
This is for BUDDY who i debated heavily with about Anthony Davis OT 9ers before the draft and was totally not interested in He absoulutley sucks! Thank God we didn't draft this guy! I got a diehard 9er fan friend who hates the guy and this is what you'll find if u see anything about Davis on the web! This guy was a lazy slob during his RUT days and i knew he was gonna be a bust! Hes still got a shot but i doubt it!


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San Francisco 49ers: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State http://www.walterfootball.com/college/OhioState_logo.gif



Anthony Davis sucks. Of the nine sacks San Francisco surrendered on
Thanksgiving night, Davis was responsible for three of them. The No. 11
overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft has been a colossal bust, and he must
be upgraded.



Mike Adams has been solid this year, and he's improved his draft stock
enough that he can be considered late in the first round.

tonyt830
12-02-2011, 07:30 AM
Top 5 4-3 WLB

1. Jarvis Jones Georgia

2. Zach Brown UNC

3. Travis Lewis Oklahoma

4. Lavonte David Nebraska

5. Keenan Robinson TexasHey Redeye and nyc, out of the mike backers in college right now that will most likely come out this year, do you think they could transition to a Sam backer in the NFL?

I think that Teo or Kuechly could transition to Sam ok, maybe even Acho from Texas?


If not and the Giants have a chance to nab Kuechly with their first pick, maybe Goff could slide over to Sam?

nycsportzfan
12-02-2011, 07:54 AM
Never did my weekly mock So here it is I got us picking 20th overall this week i figure its around about there So lets do it!


1 Whitney mercilus DE Illinois- This guys JPP type upside and athletic ability and its time to form our future bookends Our pass rush is pathetic and Jpp can't do it alone I was all for Trading Osi for even a 2nd rounder this past offseason as most dissagreed but its clear it would of been a good move and Tuck is to invisible these days and its time to light a fire under his rear while planning for the future Whitney is a freak who has a great first step and has done well against good comp(ohio st and wisconsin) I love this kid! A great Value when u look back in a couple yrs!

2 markelle martin s oklahoma st- I think this is the type of S the giants need He thumps WR's over the
middle but more importantly hes got the speed and can play that CF positon and get to the recievers on time when getting over to help a DB on a deep pass Hes got a good combonation of Size and Speed and has defended 9passes while also getting 4 tackles for loss and 2 forced fumbles I like his future as a pro and what he'd bring is what were lacking at Safety Deon Grant and KP and Rolle are just not getting it done

3 Sean Spence lb the U- I love the Value of Spence in Rd 3! Hes a very instinctive LB who is always around the ball and could really help Hes undersized but makes up for that with his hard hitting instinctive athletic ability Basically hes a playmaker and these first 3picks would really upgrade our defense bigtime going forward He had 14 TFL and 3sacks to go along with 106 tackles this yr while being suspended for a game

4 Lonnie Edwards G Texas Tech- powerful run blocker whos pretty athletic for such a powerful big man(6ft 4in 320lb) Edwards will give us much needed youth on a very up and down offensive line Good 4th round value

5 Vick Ballard RB miss st- Good size at 5ft 11in 220lbs and has had a nice career as a bulldog Enough here to warrent the pick and hope u strike gold I've seen some comment that he could be a better pro then college player and in RD 5 I think its def worth the shot

6 Greg Childs WR Arkansas- Production has dropped considerbly this yr with guys like Jarius Wright having such a big campaign which will certainly get the thought to be possible 2nd-3rd pick last yr to drop considerbly in this yrs draft In the 6th round u can take gambles Childs has big reward possibilities if your to get him this far in the draft and if he is more of what hes been this yr it only cost u a 6th rounder to find out

7 moe petrus c uconn- has blocked for some good backs like Todman and the uconn freshman this yr(forget the name?) and has had a quality career and we could use the depth and youth on the entire of the oline


There ya have it! Obviously did't go interior oline untill RD 4 which could be risky but we got FA'cy and also our Defense simply needs to get better!

Redeyejedi
12-02-2011, 09:19 AM
Top 5 4-3 WLB

1. Jarvis Jones Georgia

2. Zach Brown UNC

3. Travis Lewis Oklahoma

4. Lavonte David Nebraska

5. Keenan Robinson TexasHey Redeye and nyc, out of the mike backers in college right now that will most likely come out this year, do you think they could transition to a Sam backer in the NFL?

I think that Teo or Kuechly could transition to Sam ok, maybe even Acho from Texas?


If not and the Giants have a chance to nab Kuechly with their first pick, maybe Goff could slide over to Sam?
All those guys would work there. Teo might even be better fit as a SOLB. I think the Giants really only need one more body at LB. Goff should come back cheap because of the injury, Boley has been one of the teams best players, and Jacquain Wiliams is for real.

thegreatone
12-02-2011, 10:07 AM
*Hey Redeye**** It looks like Akeem Ayers is starting to put it together down there in Tennesee*** Hes had 6plus Tackles* in 3of the last 4 games and a 1sack to go along with 3 TFL and 2 Pass defended !*** And Earl Thomas is turning into one heck of a safety in Seattle as well!****** I think Kenny Britt is smoking crack somewhere but hes really good when healthy!!!lol**** Sportzfan for Gm! Endorse it! Love it! Breath it!!lol
So has 2 of my sleepers Colin mcarthy in tenn and helu in wash. Greatone for head scout! Endorse it! Love it! Etc.

thegreatone
12-02-2011, 10:15 AM
*Never did my weekly mock**** So here it is*** I got us picking 20th overall this week**** i figure its around about there***** So lets do it!


1* Whitney mercilus DE Illinois-* This guys JPP type upside and athletic ability* and its time to form our future bookends***** Our pass rush is pathetic and Jpp can't do it alone** I was all for Trading Osi for even a 2nd rounder this past offseason as most dissagreed** but its clear it would of been a good move and Tuck is to invisible these days and its time to light a fire under his rear while planning for the future** Whitney is a freak who has a great first step and has done well against good comp(ohio st and wisconsin) I love this kid!* A great Value when u look back in a couple yrs!

2 markelle martin s oklahoma st-* I think this is the type of S the giants need** He thumps WR's over the
middle but more importantly* hes got the speed and can play that CF positon and get to the recievers on time when getting over to help a DB on a deep pass*** Hes got a good combonation of Size and Speed and has defended 9passes while also* getting 4 tackles for loss and 2 forced fumbles* I like his future as a pro and what he'd bring is what were lacking at Safety * Deon Grant and KP and Rolle are just not getting it done

3 Sean Spence lb* the U-* I love the Value of Spence in Rd 3!* Hes a very instinctive LB who is always around the ball and could really help**** Hes undersized but makes up for that with his hard hitting instinctive athletic ability**** Basically hes a playmaker** and these first 3picks would really upgrade our defense bigtime going forward**** He had 14 TFL* and 3sacks to go along with 106 tackles this yr** while being suspended for a game****

4 Lonnie Edwards G Texas Tech- powerful run blocker whos pretty athletic for such a powerful big man(6ft 4in 320lb)** Edwards will give us much needed youth on* a very up and down offensive line* Good 4th round value

5* Vick Ballard RB miss st-* Good size at 5ft 11in 220lbs and has had* a nice career as a bulldog** Enough here to warrent the pick and hope u strike gold** I've seen some comment that he could be a better pro then college player and in RD 5*** I think its def worth the shot

6* Greg Childs WR Arkansas-* Production has dropped considerbly this yr with guys like Jarius Wright having such a big campaign which will certainly get the thought to be possible 2nd-3rd pick last yr to drop considerbly in this yrs draft**** In the 6th round u can take gambles****** Childs has big reward possibilities if your to get him this far in the draft and if he is more of what hes been this yr*** it only cost u a 6th rounder to find out

7* moe petrus c uconn-*** has blocked for some good backs like Todman and the uconn freshman this yr(forget the name?)** and has had a quality career and we could use the depth and youth on the entire of the oline


There ya have it! Obviously did't go interior oline untill RD 4 which could be risky but we got FA'cy and also our Defense simply needs to get better!
interesting. Agree that another jpp like defender would do wonders but I think a better DC would be better than any player but I can't argue with the pick. 2 should be an olineman I still like zeitler there as we have both mocked him in the 2nd and with Chad jones possible return I'm not sure 2nd will be a safety unless it's great value. Spence I LOVE and really thought he was gonna catapult his stock but hasn't happened so I love the value.the rest I like no arguements

Redeyejedi
12-02-2011, 06:29 PM
Conner Shaw of South Carolina is a terrible QB and really put a hurt on Jefferys stats this season. Im watching Clemson SC to do an Andre Branch video. its early first there on the 25 yard line Jeffery gets single coverage beats Sensabaugh down the field on a post pattern and Shaw makes a late poor throw. Stephen Garcia maybe a train wreck but thats a TD if he throws that ball. If I was Jeffery Id want to kill that kid because he is literally pulling millions of dollars out of his pocket.

Raptor22
12-02-2011, 08:37 PM
Conner Shaw of South Carolina is a terrible QB and really put a hurt on Jefferys stats this season. Im watching Clemson SC to do an Andre Branch video*. its early first there on the 25 yard line Jeffery gets single coverage beats Sensabaugh down the field on a post pattern and Shaw makes a late poor throw. Stephen Garcia maybe a train wreck but thats a TD if he throws that ball.* If I was Jeffery Id want to kill that kid because he is literally pulling millions of dollars out of his pocket.

I said it last year, if SC had a qb like Mallet or Luck, they'd be unstoppable.

(of course Lattimore was healthy at the time... but then if SC had q legit qb, he probably wouldn't be SO overworked and might not have gotten hurt.)

Redeyejedi
12-02-2011, 09:38 PM
Jonathan banks And Fletcher Cox Miss st have both submitted papers to the draft advisory board

thegreatone
12-03-2011, 06:20 AM
Conner Shaw of South Carolina is a terrible QB and really put a hurt on Jefferys stats this season. Im watching Clemson SC to do an Andre Branch video*. its early first there on the 25 yard line Jeffery gets single coverage beats Sensabaugh down the field on a post pattern and Shaw makes a late poor throw. Stephen Garcia maybe a train wreck but thats a TD if he throws that ball.* If I was Jeffery Id want to kill that kid because he is literally pulling millions of dollars out of his pocket.Luckily he had Garcia for as long as he did. I seriously doubt his qb play of late will have any effect on his draft status. Scouts know what this kid is

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 06:39 AM
Wow Anthony Davis gotta be wretched as ever! This is on another sites mock draft lol I remember

mad people wanted this guy the yr we got Jpp! THe dude was a lazy bum in college and i knew he was gonna suck! The niners drafted this bum and taylor mays!!!lol Another easy call!


93. San Francisco 49ers- OT Brandon Mosley (Auburn)</p>

Anthony
Davis sucks. After allowing 11 sacks last season, he’s allowed 6 more
this season and he’s doing this at right tackle, not even against the
opponent’s best pass rusher. Davis is a Mike Singletary guy and Jim
Harbaugh proved by trading Taylor Mays for 5 cents that he doesn’t have
any loyalty to high draft picks from the Mike Singletary era. I’m not
saying the 49ers cut Davis, but they will at least bring in someone to
challenge him at right tackle through the draft. If Mosley works out,
Davis could shift to guard, another need position of theirs.</p>

Raptor22
12-03-2011, 08:16 AM
*Wow* Anthony Davis gotta be wretched as ever!* This is on another sites** mock draft lol**** I remember

mad people wanted this guy the yr we got Jpp!* THe dude was a lazy bum in college and i knew he was gonna suck!** The niners drafted this bum and taylor mays!!!lol Another easy call!


93. San Francisco 49ers- OT Brandon Mosley (Auburn)</p>

Anthony
Davis sucks. After allowing 11 sacks last season, he’s allowed 6 more
this season and he’s doing this at right tackle, not even against the
opponent’s best pass rusher. Davis is a Mike Singletary guy and Jim
Harbaugh proved by trading Taylor Mays for 5 cents that he doesn’t have
any loyalty to high draft picks from the Mike Singletary era. I’m not
saying the 49ers cut Davis, but they will at least bring in someone to
challenge him at right tackle through the draft. If Mosley works out,
Davis could shift to guard, another need position of theirs.</p>


In other words, expect a bajillion "Sign/Trade to Anthony Davis! Get it done Reese!"

*sigh*

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 12:02 PM
Wow Anthony Davis gotta be wretched as ever! This is on another sites mock draft lol I remember

mad people wanted this guy the yr we got Jpp! THe dude was a lazy bum in college and i knew he was gonna suck! The niners drafted this bum and taylor mays!!!lol Another easy call!


93. San Francisco 49ers- OT Brandon Mosley (Auburn)</p>

Anthony
Davis sucks. After allowing 11 sacks last season, he’s allowed 6 more
this season and he’s doing this at right tackle, not even against the
opponent’s best pass rusher. Davis is a Mike Singletary guy and Jim
Harbaugh proved by trading Taylor Mays for 5 cents that he doesn’t have
any loyalty to high draft picks from the Mike Singletary era. I’m not
saying the 49ers cut Davis, but they will at least bring in someone to
challenge him at right tackle through the draft. If Mosley works out,
Davis could shift to guard, another need position of theirs.</p>


In other words, expect a bajillion "Sign/Trade to Anthony Davis! Get it done Reese!"

*sigh*lol

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 12:04 PM
Try to watch Case Keenum today guys Dude can make alot of NFL type throws and has solid touch Not elite Arm Strength but decent I see something in him that makes me believe hes not the next Timmy Chang Colt Brennan Kliff Kingsbury type I like em

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Derek Wolfe is a beast! I don't know how u don't like him redeye! Dude can play!

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 01:28 PM
Derek Wolfe is a beast! I don't know how u don't like him redeye! Dude can play!
Another sack by wolfe! I think hes got 2sacks and a TFL in the first half

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 02:45 PM
Try to watch Case Keenum today guys Dude can make alot of NFL type throws and has solid touch Not elite Arm Strength but decent I see something in him that makes me believe hes not the next Timmy Chang Colt Brennan Kliff Kingsbury type I like emMore interested in Austin Davis myself. This is the first 2011 Southern Miss game ive seen this season. I thought he was real impressive from what I saw last year

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 02:49 PM
Derek Wolfe is a beast! I don't know how u don't like him redeye! Dude can play!
Another sack by wolfe! I think hes got 2sacks and a TFL in the first half
It sucks every game that he has played well I have the game but the quality is such crap I cant make a video

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 03:06 PM
This Lampley kid from Southern Miss is just like Jerrel Jernigan . Same size , runs the ball, return kicks.Austin Davis is really helping himself out today Case Keenum not so much. Austin Davis looks like a very nice developmental QB

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 03:11 PM
This Lampley kid from Southern Miss is just like Jerrel Jernigan . Same size , runs the ball, return kicks.Austin Davis is really helping himself out today Case Keenum not so much. Austin Davis looks like a very nice developmental QB Are u kidding? Keenum has had 3 killer drops by Carrier alone and 2were sure fire long TDs And were talking about straight horrible drops! Not to mention hes had no time nor run game Outside of a bad pick Keenum's been fine Carrier should have litteraly 2tds and he dropped 3passes overall

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 03:40 PM
This Lampley kid from Southern Miss is just like Jerrel Jernigan . Same size , runs the ball, return kicks.Austin Davis is really helping himself out today Case Keenum not so much. Austin Davis looks like a very nice developmental QB Are u kidding? Keenum has had 3 killer drops by Carrier alone and 2were sure fire long TDs And were talking about straight horrible drops! Not to mention hes had no time nor run game Outside of a bad pick Keenum's been fine Carrier should have litteraly 2tds and he dropped 3passes overall
This is the only team Houston played that was in the Top 50 in pass defense and there getting smashed.Theres a Pick 6

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 03:47 PM
This Lampley kid from Southern Miss is just like Jerrel Jernigan . Same size , runs the ball, return kicks.Austin Davis is really helping himself out today Case Keenum not so much. Austin Davis looks like a very nice developmental QB Are u kidding? Keenum has had 3 killer drops by Carrier alone and 2were sure fire long TDs And were talking about straight horrible drops! Not to mention hes had no time nor run game Outside of a bad pick Keenum's been fine Carrier should have litteraly 2tds and he dropped 3passes overall
This is the only team Houston played that was in the Top 50 in pass defense and there getting smashed U definetly didn't see Carrier drop 2 TD passes with him absoulutley blown by the coverege and the ball directly in his hands pretty much as bad of drops as you'll see Once they got down by 21 It just got totally one dimensional and hard to judge the way keenum was playing then But he certainly should of had better results and who knows what happens if Carrier catches those 2 TD passes instead of kills his team with the drops His 3rd drop was on a big 3rd down play as well Albeit Keenum wasen't sensational but its 100pct a diffrent story if Carrier catches those 2 td passes

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 03:48 PM
Try to watch Case Keenum today guys Dude can make alot of NFL type throws and has solid touch Not elite Arm Strength but decent I see something in him that makes me believe hes not the next Timmy Chang Colt Brennan Kliff Kingsbury type I like emMore interested in Austin Davis myself. This is the first 2011 Southern Miss game ive seen this season. I thought he was real impressive from what I saw last year He picked it up as the game went along thats for sure He looked good no doubt about it

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 03:55 PM
I got the OVER in the HOUSTON game with that last meaningless TD by the cougs! Sweet! Also hit the Over in the UCONN / CINCY game ! Nice! Up 150bucks and i got the Over in the LSU game and Baylor

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:13 PM
This Texas team is overrated.</P>

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:17 PM
Man I hope Aaron Murray lights up LSU

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 04:17 PM
wow what happened to Houston? They got whooped! Hats off to a good Southern Miss team. I was hoping to see Houston win and see them make a BCS bowl! Oh well!</P>


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And I have nothing against Cincinnati, but I was rooting for UConn. I did not want to see West Virginia in a BCS bowl, not that Louisville was a top notch team this year. I would have liked to see Rutgers make a BCS bowl.</P>


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Now its time to watch the LSU/Georgia game! Go DAWGS!!!!</P>

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 04:19 PM
Man I hope Aaron Murray lights up LSUI'm with you redeye! Go Dawgs! Then I hope Oklahoma St wins tonight over Oklahoma and is enough for them to leapfrog Bama. But who knows! The current BCS sucks!

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:19 PM
Man I hope Aaron Murray lights up LSU He should of thrown a TD to KING but didn't get it out there enough(still a long gain) and then had a couple putrid throws after that

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 04:21 PM
This Texas team is overrated.</P>Go Baylor!

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:30 PM
Thats a TD if Claiborne doesnt hold him

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:34 PM
How do u drop that ball.no way your beating LSU like this . 2 huge drops it should be 14-0

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:36 PM
How do u drop that ball.no way your beating LSU like this . 2 huge drops it should be 14-0 Its freaking pathetic! How do u enjoy college football when u see about 5drops like that in 2 so called Chamionship games(counting ones from HOU game as well)? Its just disturbingly pathetic! Seriously how? GA lost this game all ready ! Seriously no reason to even watch anymore! There F- UP's on GA have all ready blown there chance Guranteed!

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:37 PM
Thats a TD if Claiborne doesnt hold him ya right! dont forget the idiots gotta catch the ball and when there not dropping balls murrays missing em

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:39 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:43 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:44 PM
And Georgias3rd drop of the game

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:48 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer I don't care what kinda passer he is U gotta give yourself a chance at least for a 1st down

Wow Baylor's D is so freaking awful!!!lol THey were up 14-0 and now its 21-14 lol In a matter of minutes Its just ludicrous to watch!

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:50 PM
And Georgias3rd drop of the game make that 4drops if souu include the should of been INT for GA These dudes can't catch at all! Its pathetic to watch this many dreadful drops

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:51 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer I don't care what kinda passer he is U gotta give yourself a chance at least for a 1st down

Wow Baylor's D is so freaking awful!!!lol THey were up 14-0 and now its 21-14 lol In a matter of minutes Its just ludicrous to watch!
No one plays defense in College Football anymore. LSU and Alabama thats about it

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:51 PM
wow 2nd and 14 and LSU goes to the old QB draw lol Really creative there LSU!!lol Wheres Jarrett Lee?

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:52 PM
wow 2nd and 14 and LSU goes to the old QB draw lol Really creative there LSU!!lol Wheres Jarrett Lee?
Pretty sure I heard he was academically ineligible

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:52 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer I don't care what kinda passer he is U gotta give yourself a chance at least for a 1st down

Wow Baylor's D is so freaking awful!!!lol THey were up 14-0 and now its 21-14 lol In a matter of minutes Its just ludicrous to watch!
No one plays defense in College Football anymore. LSU and Alabama thats about it GA's not bad either

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:52 PM
Lets see who will make the big drop on this drive for GA?

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 04:54 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passerI thought Jarrett Lee played better at times than Jefferson, Granted Jefferson has the wheels, but Lee is a more accurate passer and can read defenses a little better than Jefferson IMO.</P>


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I think most LSU fans, just hope that Jefferson does enough to not lose the games. He shouldnt have to with their run game and top notch defense.</P>

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 04:55 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer I don't care what kinda passer he is U gotta give yourself a chance at least for a 1st down

Wow Baylor's D is so freaking awful!!!lol THey were up 14-0 and now its 21-14 lol In a matter of minutes Its just ludicrous to watch!
No one plays defense in College Football anymore. LSU and Alabama thats about it GA's not bad either
YeahGeorgia has a lot of defensive talent as well.There a real young defense. I love Jarvis Jones, Great OLB </P>


Did U see Harnish play by any chance last night I didnt see the game</P>

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:56 PM
Can GA punch it in or will they shoot themselves in the foot yet again?

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:57 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer I don't care what kinda passer he is U gotta give yourself a chance at least for a 1st down

Wow Baylor's D is so freaking awful!!!lol THey were up 14-0 and now its 21-14 lol In a matter of minutes Its just ludicrous to watch!
No one plays defense in College Football anymore. LSU and Alabama thats about it GA's not bad either
YeahGeorgia has a lot of defensive talent as well.There a real young defense. I love Jarvis Jones, Great OLB </p>


Did U see Harnish play by any chance last night I didnt see the game</p> oh ya i seen harnish He lead a marvelous 2nd half comeback and they WON the game at the end He has alot of poise that harnish

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 04:57 PM
LSU ran a QB keeper on 3rd and 7!!! HAHA!
LSU's offense isnt all that. Reuban Randlie is a nice player but Jefferson isnt that good of a passer I don't care what kinda passer he is U gotta give yourself a chance at least for a 1st down

Wow Baylor's D is so freaking awful!!!lol THey were up 14-0 and now its 21-14 lol In a matter of minutes Its just ludicrous to watch!
No one plays defense in College Football anymore. LSU and Alabama thats about it GA's not bad either
They showed some stats a little bit ago---Georgia has a good redzone D and have 1 of the top 5 3rd down conversions allowed on defense behind Florida and Bama.</P>


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Their front t is solid and I like boykin at CB. But I agree---these Georgia receivers need to snag those balls. Murray has been off target on a few as well.</P>

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 04:58 PM
That was a Lazer thrown by murray for the TD there!

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 05:00 PM
nice throw, route and catch for that TD---they were not going to settle for another Fg attempt that drive!

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:01 PM
Its hard to judge any offensive players when they play BAYLOR I could run for a 100yrd on them while also throwing for 350 lol

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:02 PM
LSU has no passoffense.If they cant run the ball there in trouble

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:05 PM
wow Robert Griffins 1st INT at Home was pretty ugly

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:06 PM
wow Robert Griffins 1st INT at Home was pretty ugly
Not as bad as the One mccoy just threw though lol

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:07 PM
wow Robert Griffins 1st INT at Home was pretty ugly
Wish I could watch that as well but Im trying to cut up an Andre Branch video vs South Carolina.

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:13 PM
My god LSU's Punter is good. That was 65 yards with like 5.0 seconds hangtime

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:16 PM
My god LSU's Punter is good. That was 65 yards with like 5.0 seconds hangtime ya hes good I wish GA played a bit more uptempo Feels like i've barley watched any football in this game

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:17 PM
jesus! Get the ball LSU!

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:18 PM
Murray gunned that for no reason bad throw. probably wouldnt of gotten the first anyway though

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:20 PM
Dang LSU just seems to be away from the ball on everything A ball deflected in the AIR and no LSU player around for the pick and a fumble and no LSU player can get it This games gonna be 17-13 type game I like seeing a bit of D but this is a draggy game

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 05:24 PM
Put LEE In! Jesus! Its freaking Common Sense! Why'd they ever take him out? Stupid!

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:25 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:26 PM
I guess Lee isnt ineligible. I had read something about it.Play him my god it cant be worse then this crap .

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:28 PM
Uh OH LSU's defense is coming alive

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:30 PM
Man Tyrann Mathieu should be in the Heisman discussion

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:30 PM
AMAZING punt return by LSU

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:33 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???
</P>


Georgia</P>


Ben Jones C</P>


Cordy Glenn LT</P>


Jarvis Jones #29WLB </P>


Orson Charles TE #7</P>


Brandon Boykin #2 CB</P>


Baccari Rambo S #18</P>


LSU</P>


Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE #49</P>


Kendrick Adams #94 DE</P>


Sam Montgomery #99 DE</P>


anyone in the LSU secondary </P>


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Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:38 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???
</p>


Georgia</p>


Ben Jones C</p>


Cordy Glenn LT</p>


Jarvis Jones #29WLB </p>


Orson Charles TE #7</p>


Brandon Boykin #2 CB</p>


Baccari Rambo S #18</p>


LSU</p>


Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE #49</p>


Kendrick Adams #94 DE</p>


Sam Montgomery #99 DE</p>


anyone in the LSU secondary </p>


</p>Thanks a TON man

Id rather have a few guys in particular to watch rather than just watching it as a whole, thanks again

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 05:40 PM
I cant believe that punk *** Honey Thug criminalran back that punt! The refs missed a block in the back.</P>


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But it looks like thats the only way LSU will score since their offense is sorry---LOL!!!</P>

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:41 PM
Damn, LSU's D is nice

And did I hear correctly, they have a player with the last name 'Rambo'???

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:42 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???
</P>


Georgia</P>


Ben Jones C</P>


Cordy Glenn LT</P>


Jarvis Jones #29WLB </P>


Orson Charles TE #7</P>


Brandon Boykin #2 CB</P>


Baccari Rambo S #18</P>


LSU</P>


Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE #49</P>


Kendrick Adams #94 DE</P>


Sam Montgomery #99 DE</P>


anyone in the LSU secondary </P>


</P>


Thanks a TON man

Id rather have a few guys in particular to watch rather than just watching it as a whole, thanks again
no problemIm sure Sportzfan will add something.</P>

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 05:42 PM
Man Tyrann Mathieu should be in the Heisman discussionpunk criminals should not be a Heisman candidate--LOL!!!

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:47 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Umm why not play Jarret Lee

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 05:53 PM
Georgia's D is very good! They dont get the hype that Bama and LSU get. Plus the fact that LSU's QB, Jefferson is a run first, option QB that is not real accurate or good at reading defenses.

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 05:54 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??
Well LSU's offense is sketchy but they would be pounding any team outside the SEC right now. Georgia has a lot of NFL Talent on defense.

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:54 PM
Georgia's D is very good! They dont get the hype that Bama and LSU get. Plus the fact that LSU's QB, Jefferson is a run first, option QB that is not real accurate or good at reading defenses.This is SUCH a great defensive battle, I couldnt have asked for anything more. Im such a Defense fan, this is excellent


LSU has 8 total yards, WOW!!!!

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 05:54 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??
By the way Kase---whats up, how's it hangin? I'm not the biggest of college football followers, but guys like nycsportzfan and redeye really help out and are informative!

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 05:57 PM
Georgia's D is very good! They dont get the hype that Bama and LSU get. Plus the fact that LSU's QB, Jefferson is a run first, option QB that is not real accurate or good at reading defenses.This is SUCH a great defensive battle, I couldnt have asked for anything more. Im such a Defense fan, this is excellent


LSU has 8 total yards, WOW!!!!
For the most part Georgia's O-line has played well. I like that center Ben Jones from Georgia. Maybe the Giants look at him in the 3rd rd?</P>


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But I would like to see Georgia score another TD, I dont see LSU's offense as being a threat. Maybe like redeye said, we will see Jarrett Lee at QB for LSU?</P>

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 05:58 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??
By the way Kase---whats up, how's it hangin? I'm not the biggest of college football followers, but guys like nycsportzfan and redeye really help out and are informative!How's the dirty south treatin ya man??

Honestly I didnt know college football existed (jk) til I moved to Pittsburgh for a year. Before Rutgers had their run, college ball was almost non existant in NYC and LI

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 06:00 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???
</p>


Georgia</p>


Ben Jones C</p>


Cordy Glenn LT</p>


Jarvis Jones #29WLB </p>


Orson Charles TE #7</p>


Brandon Boykin #2 CB</p>


Baccari Rambo S #18</p>


LSU</p>


Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE #49</p>


Kendrick Adams #94 DE</p>


Sam Montgomery #99 DE</p>


anyone in the LSU secondary </p>


</p>


Thanks a TON man

Id rather have a few guys in particular to watch rather than just watching it as a whole, thanks again
no problemIm sure Sportzfan will add something.</p> I will add Reuben Randle now that we have got to be seeing Jarrett Lee Jordan Jefferson just put up the first First Half without a 1st down in the SEC since 2002!!!lol POssibly Reuben Randle will get some action now

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 06:02 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??
Well LSU's offense is sketchy but they would be pounding any team outside the SEC right now. Georgia has a lot of NFL Talent on defense.Hard to imagine since they had 12 total yards in the 1st half, then again LSU's qb is getting flushed out of the non existant pocket all the time, and every run is getting stopped WELL behind the LOS

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 06:03 PM
'Dr Pepper is the best thing to ever happen to me' - Girl from halftime competition

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 06:09 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??
By the way Kase---whats up, how's it hangin? I'm not the biggest of college football followers, but guys like nycsportzfan and redeye really help out and are informative!How's the dirty south treatin ya man??

Honestly I didnt know college football existed (jk) til I moved to Pittsburgh for a year. Before Rutgers had their run, college ball was almost non existant in NYC and LI
Well the dirty south is treating me fine for the most part, so I'm doing my best to reciprocate the treatment--LOL!!</P>


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Down here I'm in SEC country. I pull for Vandy(the yearly underdog), since everybody else is UT this UT that. I still follow Notre Dame, Penn St and Rutgers/ Big east ball still though. But I come on here and follow some of these guys who are more knowledgable in the college football field then me. </P>


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I was hoping to see Rutgers win the Big East and go to a BCS bowl, but West Virginia gets the nod this year. I was rooting for UConn to beat Cincy today, just so West Virginia would not have gotten a chance to win the Big East. But oh well.</P>

tonyt830
12-03-2011, 06:13 PM
'Dr Pepper is the best thing to ever happen to me' - Girl from halftime competition
That was nice to see her get that money towards a college scholarship. She was more emotional than I expected. College is not cheap, I have that to worry about in 2 years, if my daughter decides to go that route. She likes Duke, a great academic school. She knows that I cant stand Duke mens basketball---but I do respect them and what Coach K has accomplished. I told her to keep working hard and if she gets an academic scholarship to Duke, I would be so proud that I would come to a Duke Mens game and consider painting myself and joining the Cameron crazies---LOL!!!

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 06:18 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???
</P>


Georgia</P>


Ben Jones C</P>


Cordy Glenn LT</P>


Jarvis Jones #29WLB </P>


Orson Charles TE #7</P>


Brandon Boykin #2 CB</P>


Baccari Rambo S #18</P>


LSU</P>


Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE #49</P>


Kendrick Adams #94 DE</P>


Sam Montgomery #99 DE</P>


anyone in the LSU secondary </P>


</P>


Thanks a TON man

Id rather have a few guys in particular to watch rather than just watching it as a whole, thanks again
no problemIm sure Sportzfan will add something.</P>


I will add Reuben Randle now that we have got to be seeing Jarrett Lee Jordan Jefferson just put up the first First Half without a 1st down in the SEC since 2002!!!lol POssibly Reuben Randle will get some action now
Reuban Randle has tweeted out my videos of him.</P>
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nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 06:27 PM
Ya LSU! mathieu with the recovery

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 06:28 PM
As a college football outsider that I am, I was wondering is there anyone in particular we should be looking at in any of the games tonight/now???
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Georgia</p>


Ben Jones C</p>


Cordy Glenn LT</p>


Jarvis Jones #29WLB </p>


Orson Charles TE #7</p>


Brandon Boykin #2 CB</p>


Baccari Rambo S #18</p>


LSU</p>


Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE #49</p>


Kendrick Adams #94 DE</p>


Sam Montgomery #99 DE</p>


anyone in the LSU secondary </p>


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Thanks a TON man

Id rather have a few guys in particular to watch rather than just watching it as a whole, thanks again
no problemIm sure Sportzfan will add something.</p>


I will add Reuben Randle now that we have got to be seeing Jarrett Lee Jordan Jefferson just put up the first First Half without a 1st down in the SEC since 2002!!!lol POssibly Reuben Randle will get some action now
Reuban Randle has tweeted out my videos of him.</p>
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Kase-1
12-03-2011, 06:28 PM
LSU offense STILL hasnt gotten a 1st down, are they that bad or is Georgia's D that good??
By the way Kase---whats up, how's it hangin? I'm not the biggest of college football followers, but guys like nycsportzfan and redeye really help out and are informative!How's the dirty south treatin ya man??

Honestly I didnt know college football existed (jk) til I moved to Pittsburgh for a year. Before Rutgers had their run, college ball was almost non existant in NYC and LI
Well the dirty south is treating me fine for the most part, so I'm doing my best to reciprocate the treatment--LOL!!</p>


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Down here I'm in SEC country. I pull for Vandy(the yearly underdog), since everybody else is UT this UT that. I still follow Notre Dame, Penn St and Rutgers/ Big east ball still though. But I come on here and follow some of these guys who are more knowledgable in the college football field then me. </p>


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I was hoping to see Rutgers win the Big East and go to a BCS bowl, but West Virginia gets the nod this year. I was rooting for UConn to beat Cincy today, just so West Virginia would not have gotten a chance to win the Big East. But oh well.</p>Im def a Big East guy, in every sport too. Hell thats where all the best high school basketball players in the Tri-State area go

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 06:30 PM
'Dr Pepper is the best thing to ever happen to me' - Girl from halftime competition
That was nice to see her get that money towards a college scholarship. She was more emotional than I expected. College is not cheap, I have that to worry about in 2 years, if my daughter decides to go that route. She likes Duke, a great academic school. She knows that I cant stand Duke mens basketball---but I do respect them and what Coach K has accomplished. I told her to keep working hard and if she gets an academic scholarship to Duke, I would be so proud that I would come to a Duke Mens game and consider painting myself and joining the Cameron crazies---LOL!!!If she's looking at Duke then congrats my man, your daughter must be quite the scholar.

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 06:31 PM
The atmosphere at a college football game is outstanding


Where are they playing this game??

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 06:33 PM
LSU proving that they dont need an offense to beat anyone

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 06:35 PM
If Georgia cant protect Murray they might as well just go home right now.5 drops for Georgia

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 06:40 PM
What a return by mathieu! Omg!

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 06:41 PM
If Georgia cant protect Murray they might as well just go home right now.5 drops for Georgia I told ya they lost as soon as they had that last crucial drop that should of been a TD

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 06:41 PM
What a return by mathieu! Omg!I voted for him for the Heisman on the bloggers Heisman vote

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 06:53 PM
Tyrann Mathieu is an interesting prospect for the NFL. He profiles like a Nickel player.He isnt great in man coverage.He doesnt have the height u like to go against 1's in the NFL. He isnt aevery down safety either. He has fantastic ball skills and is a great blitzer. He is outstanding in zone coverage. He would be an insane Tampa 2 guy</P>

Kase-1
12-03-2011, 07:00 PM
Tyrann Mathieu is an interesting prospect for the NFL. He profiles like a Nickel player.He isnt great in man coverage.He doesnt have the height u like to go against 1's in the NFL. He isnt aevery down safety either. He has fantastic ball skills and is a great blitzer. He is outstanding in zone coverage. He would be an insane Tampa 2 guy</p>Dont forget his return skills

Redeyejedi
12-03-2011, 07:05 PM
LSU is just choking Georgia to death.Its an 11 point game but it might as well be a 100.Georgia is just getting smashed. Alabama is the only team that can hang with them.No one else has enough talent on defense.

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 07:13 PM
Tyrann Mathieu is an interesting prospect for the NFL. He profiles like a Nickel player.He isnt great in man coverage.He doesnt have the height u like to go against 1's in the NFL. He isnt aevery down safety either. He has fantastic ball skills and is a great blitzer. He is outstanding in zone coverage. He would be an insane Tampa 2 guy</p> Hes still got a bit before hes a pro So he can improve still

nycsportzfan
12-03-2011, 07:15 PM
LSU is just choking Georgia to death.Its an 11 point game but it might as well be a 100.Georgia is just getting smashed. Alabama is the only team that can hang with them.No one else has enough talent on defense. ya exactly why i guranteed it to be over when GA lead early on because they blew those opp's U can't do that against these guys Its just a matter of time I'd like GA to get at least a TD before this is over Because i got the OVER