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Redeyejedi
01-01-2012, 07:51 PM
Some of my favorite Defensive players going at it in there respective bowl games today!**** U got*

Whitney mercilus DE Illinois- Absoulute Stud! Bigtime promise from the kid who leads country in Sacks and FF's!

Casey Hayward CB Vandy- Super Underrated and i think is better prospect and player then guys like Stephon Gilmore and possibly Chase minnifield(who i also love!)

Chase minnifeild CB Virginia

Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- playmaker!




According to McShay, Mercilus is going early 2nd day... So maybe he might not be such a reach at 32nd overall...

(I can only come up with 2 reasons why McShay has him as a 2nd day prospect: 1) McShay's an idiot. 2) the huge jump in sacks from last year to this year might have teams questioning his motor or whatever)
I could care less what mcshay says** mark my words that Whitney goes in 1st round and probably makes one of the bigger jumps up the first round as the draft approaches*** Hes utterly insane!* He just dominated again yesterday and without him* Illinois litteraly dosen't beat UCLA* His athletic ability is extremely underrated** He was making insane moves all game and* also was using his insane strength and instincts*** Dudes also got perfect 4/3 DE size** Trust me** hes going 1st round and fairly earlier then where hes perdicted to go now
I agree he is going in the first round probably before pick 20.

heavyhitter
01-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Redeye, I wanna get your thoughts on 40 yard dash times at this years combine. I know we still have to wait another week or two for the rest of the underclassman to declare, then East-West Shrine game, Senior Bowl, but as of right now what player/s stand out to you? Do you think Jeff Demps (UF) will run somewhere in the mid 4.2's, low 4.3's?

Redeyejedi
01-01-2012, 08:15 PM
Redeye, I wanna get your thoughts on 40 yard dash times at this years combine. I know we still have to wait another week or two for the rest of the underclassman to declare, then East-West Shrine game, Senior Bowl, but as of right now what player/s stand out to you? Do you think Jeff Demps (UF) will run somewhere in the mid 4.2's, low 4.3's?
He certainly looks fast and he runs track so he knows how to start properly. I think u could very well see him approach the record.Chris Rainy from Florida is frickin fast as well he could break it 2. One other guy that looks really fast on tape is TJ Graham of Louisville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmagRtfOvo
check it out at 2:00

heavyhitter
01-01-2012, 08:54 PM
Redeye, I wanna get your thoughts on 40 yard dash times at this years combine. I know we still have to wait another week or two for the rest of the underclassman to declare, then East-West Shrine game, Senior Bowl, but as of right now what player/s stand out to you? Do you think Jeff Demps (UF) will run somewhere in the mid 4.2's, low 4.3's?
He certainly looks fast and he runs track so he knows how to start properly. I think u could very well see him approach the record.Chris Rainy from Florida is frickin fast as well he could break it 2. One other guy that looks really fast on tape is TJ Graham of Louisville
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOmagRtfOvo
check it out at 2:00Definitely has legit speed and will give Demps and Rainey a run for their money. Surprised I never even heard of this guy cuz I watch a lot of ACC and SEC games. I'll tell you another blazer is Auburn RB Ontario McCalleb. I don't think he's gonna declare though, we'll see.

Raptor22
01-01-2012, 10:28 PM
So guys, which diamond is JR going to dig out of his personal mine down in South Florida next?

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 12:18 AM
nfldraftscout Matt Miller
I would like to tell you I saw this coming with Victor Cruz, but no one did. At all. What a story

Jmpasq Jmpasq
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@nfldraftscout 1 guy on the NY Giants message board told me to look out for him when he came into the Giants for a workout.

nfldraftscout Matt Miller
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@Jmpasq That guy should be hired to scout on the spot

LOL Sportzfan

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 12:55 AM
nfldraftscout Matt Miller
I would like to tell you I saw this coming with Victor Cruz, but no one did. At all. What a story

Jmpasq Jmpasq
@
@nfldraftscout 1 guy on the NY Giants message board told me to look out for him when he came into the Giants for a workout.

nfldraftscout Matt Miller
@
@Jmpasq That guy should be hired to scout on the spot

LOL Sportzfan

Dear Sportzfan:
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nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 02:25 AM
nfldraftscout Matt Miller
I would like to tell you I saw this coming with Victor Cruz, but no one did. At all. What a story

Jmpasq Jmpasq
@
@nfldraftscout 1 guy on the NY Giants message board told me to look out for him when he came into the Giants for a workout.

nfldraftscout Matt Miller
@
@Jmpasq That guy should be hired to scout on the spot

LOL Sportzfan I freaking love it!!!lol Victor's my man! I definetly didn't think he'd be quite this good though hes utterly insane! That'd be funny if they mentioned my thread titled something like "victor cruz gonna break out in big way vs jets" before that Jet Pre Season game where Cruz went for 3td's LOL

TheEnigma
01-02-2012, 03:17 AM
When you become a GM in about 10-15 years, will you still talk to us on the MB sportzfan? :)

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 03:34 AM
Early mock draft because i'm still high on the fact were in the postseason and i just want to do anything giants related right now!!lol I will still do a weekly mock untill there outta the playoffs or after the Super bowl if they make it that far and then i'm done with mocks for awhile Anyhow i got us picking 25th this week

1 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- We won't have a chance at him this late in RD 2 and hes the best at his positon and i see him as a Antonio gates type player in this league and we could use a TE to complete the Offense and we don't have but Ballard as far as ALL AROUND TE's on the roster Its alittle bit Spoling yourself type pick as our Pass Catchers are so awesome but adding Allen Isn't a bad idea as late in RD 1 as were picking as it puts us in the NO NE and GB category of all around top of the league Deepest Pass Catching Arsenal I wish mercilus was gonna be here and last wk's mock 1st rder for us that i had was Devon Still whos also a nice pick but Allen is a guy i think will pay huge divedens and totally complete us as a offense

2 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt- This guys as good as anyone not named Claiborne outta the 2012 CB prospects in my opinion! We could use one more stout CB in our rotation especially with Aaron Ross's pending FA'cy and Webster anotehr yr older and TT being a FA and coming off a Full Season lost due to injury Hayward is a Ballhawk with speed who mixes it up in the run game Another words hes the complete package

3 Audie Cole LB Nc State- Obviously goff will be coming off a yr lost due to injury and Greg Jones has to prove hes more then Depth still and Cole had a really nice season and is a fantastic mlb! Cole is solid value and at a positon we could use one more quality player to compete and at least for Depth purposes Cole looked fabulous in his teams bowl game the other day

4 Terrance Ganaway RB Baylor- I like Ganaway alot and he would seemingly fill the role i'm assumin is gonna be vacated after the season when Jacobs leaves

5 Jaye Howard DT Florida- Could be a solid rotational DT in the pros Up and down season but clearly the potentail for a solid NFL player is there Solid to Real Solid Value late 5th round

6 Blake Gideon FS Texas- Gideons got non stop motor and is pretty solid all around S who isn't the most athletic freak at the positon but gets it done by being a bright hard working player who brings it every day Gideon could end up being a beast ST's player and possibly more with a bit of luck

7 moe Petrus C UCONN- A solid 7 rd pick at a positon could use some depth I seen a bit of UCONN and Petrus has looked good most of those times

Obviously there is no oline till rd 7 but we do have FA'cy as well where we could get someone

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 03:48 AM
If i'm Penn St I'm all over Steve Spagnuolo for the open HC job Shoot i was hoping if the Giants Lost(thank god they didn't!) that we'd go in a diffrent direction and Spagnuolo was right at the top of the list of guys i wanted the Giants to go after( I think Coughlin earned his stay with playoff berth but 3straight late season collapses should be 2much for any coach to survive in my opinon) Anyhow Spags and his Defensive mindset and history with LB's is perfect for Penn st Also hes a energetic guy who should bring a upbeat and big energy to there campus Spags is a great choice for Penn St if they decide to go that way(i have no clue if they have any interest)

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 09:31 AM
*If i'm Penn St*** I'm all over Steve Spagnuolo for the open HC job*** Shoot* i was hoping if the Giants Lost(thank god they didn't!) that we'd go in a diffrent direction and Spagnuolo was right at the top of the list of guys i wanted the Giants to go after( I think Coughlin earned his stay with playoff berth but 3straight late season collapses should be 2much for any coach to survive in my opinon)** Anyhow Spags and his Defensive mindset and history with LB's is perfect for Penn st*** Also hes a energetic guy who should bring a upbeat and big energy to there campus**** Spags is a great choice for Penn St if they decide to go that way(i have no clue if they have any interest)


Supposedly, NE's OC is a leading candidate for that job. Personally, I'm kinda hoping Fewell gets his HC shot somewhere and Spags comes back 'till TC decides to hang up the headset.

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 12:30 PM
Early mock draft because i'm still high on the fact were in the postseason and i just want to do anything giants related right now!!lol* I will still do a weekly mock untill there outta the playoffs or after the Super bowl if they make it that far*** and then i'm done with mocks for awhile** Anyhow i got us picking 25th this week

1 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson-* We won't have a chance at him this late in RD 2 and hes the best at his positon and i see him as a Antonio gates type player in this league and* we could use a TE to complete the Offense* and we don't have but Ballard as far as ALL AROUND TE's on the roster** Its alittle bit * Spoling yourself type pick as our Pass Catchers are so awesome but adding Allen* Isn't a bad idea as late in RD 1 as were picking as it puts us in the NO NE and GB category of all around top of the league Deepest Pass Catching Arsenal*** I wish mercilus was gonna be here and last wk's mock 1st rder for us that i had was Devon Still whos also a nice pick but Allen is a guy i think will pay huge divedens and totally complete us as a offense

2 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt- This guys as good as anyone not named Claiborne outta the 2012 CB prospects in my opinion!* We could use one more stout CB in our rotation especially with Aaron Ross's pending FA'cy and Webster anotehr yr older and TT being a FA and coming off a* Full Season lost due to injury*** Hayward is a Ballhawk with speed who mixes it up in the run game** Another words** hes the complete package

3 Audie Cole LB Nc State-** Obviously goff will be coming off a yr lost due to injury and Greg Jones has to prove hes more then Depth still and Cole had a really nice season and is a fantastic mlb!*** Cole is solid value and at a positon we could use one more quality player to compete and at least for Depth purposes** Cole looked fabulous in his teams bowl game the other day*

4 Terrance Ganaway RB Baylor- I like Ganaway alot and he would seemingly fill the role i'm assumin is gonna be vacated after the season when Jacobs leaves

5 Jaye Howard DT Florida- Could be a solid rotational DT in the pros** Up and down season but clearly the potentail for a solid* NFL player is there** Solid to Real Solid Value late 5th round

6 Blake Gideon FS Texas-* Gideons got non stop motor and is pretty solid all around S who isn't the most athletic freak at the positon but gets it done by being a bright hard working* player who brings it every* day*** Gideon could end up being a beast ST's player and possibly more with a bit of luck

7 moe Petrus C UCONN-* A solid 7 rd pick at a positon could use some depth** I seen a bit of UCONN and Petrus has looked good most of those times

Obviously there is no oline till rd 7 but we do have FA'cy as well where we could get someone

I think this is my favorite one you have done. I love Allen.Casey Heyward is one of the most underrated players in the nation.Audie Cole is a guy that fits the SOLB/MLB role that im looking for.

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 12:31 PM
nfldraftscout Matt Miller
I would like to tell you I saw this coming with Victor Cruz, but no one did. At all. What a story

Jmpasq Jmpasq
@
@nfldraftscout 1 guy on the NY Giants message board told me to look out for him when he came into the Giants for a workout.

nfldraftscout Matt Miller
@
@Jmpasq That guy should be hired to scout on the spot

LOL Sportzfan* I freaking love it!!!lol** Victor's my man!** I definetly didn't think he'd be quite this good though** hes utterly insane!*** That'd be funny if they mentioned my thread titled something like "victor cruz gonna break out in big way vs jets"** before that Jet Pre Season game where* Cruz went for 3td's LOL
I started messing with the design of my own Giants draft blog. Hope U will contribute to it

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 12:43 PM
When you become a GM in about 10-15 years, will you still talk to us on the MB sportzfan? :) are u kiddin! U guys are gonna be my staff!!!!lol

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 12:43 PM
nfldraftscout Matt Miller
I would like to tell you I saw this coming with Victor Cruz, but no one did. At all. What a story

Jmpasq Jmpasq
@
@nfldraftscout 1 guy on the NY Giants message board told me to look out for him when he came into the Giants for a workout.

nfldraftscout Matt Miller
@
@Jmpasq That guy should be hired to scout on the spot

LOL Sportzfan I freaking love it!!!lol Victor's my man! I definetly didn't think he'd be quite this good though hes utterly insane! That'd be funny if they mentioned my thread titled something like "victor cruz gonna break out in big way vs jets" before that Jet Pre Season game where Cruz went for 3td's LOL
I started messing with the design of my own Giants draft blog. Hope U will contribute to it of course

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 12:55 PM
*As i've said most of this yr and again i feel is true Today** Ryan Tannehill not overly impressive against a NW D that is dreadful*** He let them back in the game and his play has dropped considerbly as the games gone on***** and with a ridiculous heap of weapons to boot*** Hes a guy i woulden't touch untill RD3 at the earliest*** I would rather have Nick Foles* I wonder how Foles would be if he were on a good team?One thing about A&M though for all there weapons they drop a ton of balls. They had a ton of drops against Northwestern they dropped like 10 against Kansas State.Fuller gets zero separation.the best players are the RB's

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 01:50 PM
Best day of the year for College Football guys.Cant wait for Nebraska South Carolina in 10 minutes. Plus we get Stanford Oklahoma State and Wisconsin vs Oregon 2 awesome games

poppa smurph
01-02-2012, 01:57 PM
Best day of the year for College Football guys.Cant wait for Nebraska South Carolina in 10 minutes. Plus we get Stanford Oklahoma State and Wisconsin vs Oregon 2 awesome gamesHey Redeye..I'm not the biggest follower of the college game, could you give me a couple of names to watch for and what games there in?

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 02:30 PM
Theres so many the big names

Nebraska
Lavonte David #4 LB -who is playing fantastic so far
Alfonzo Dennard #15 CB

Marcel Jones RT

South Carolina
Melvin Ingram DE /OLB #6
Devin Taylor DE #98
Antonio Allen S #26
Stephen Gilmore #5
Alshon Jeffery #1


Georgia

Orson Charles TE #9
Jarvis Jones LB #29
Cordy Glenn LT but a guard in the NFL
Ben Jones C

Michigan State

QB Kirk Cousins

DT #99 Jerel Worthy

WR #3 BJ Cunningham

Houston

QB Case Keenum

WR Patrick Edwards

LB Sammy Brown


Penn State

DT Devon Still #71

LB Jack Craford #81

WR Derek Moye #6


Thats the early games maybe someone can list the late ones

poppa smurph
01-02-2012, 02:51 PM
thanks Redeye!

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 03:27 PM
Nebraska
Lavonte David #4 LB -who is playing fantastic so far
Alfonzo Dennard #15 CB

Marcel Jones RT

South Carolina
Melvin Ingram DE /OLB #6
Devin Taylor DE #98
Antonio Allen S #26
Stephen Gilmore #5
Alshon Jeffery

Watching SC/Nebraska, and Denard has been playing well, but Ingram, Gilmore, and Jeffery have just woken up and are dominating. Jeffery just made a fantastic play for a TD, after an INT by Gilmore, and a brutal hit by Ingram.

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 04:14 PM
Dennard and Jeffery get into a fight and are tossed from the game.Way to end your college careers

CGYgiant
01-02-2012, 04:23 PM
Dennard and Jeffery get into a fight and are tossed from the game.Way to end your college careers

Jeffery was pushing whereas Dennard was punching, both arent smart but it should be pointed out.

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 04:32 PM
Dennard and Jeffery get into a fight and are tossed from the game.Way to end your college careers

I was just going to post this... *facepalm*

SC (eventually) got the td, but you could tell they're missing their biggest weapon.

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 04:43 PM
Dennard and Jeffery get into a fight and are tossed from the game.Way to end your college careers

I was just going to post this... *facepalm*

SC (eventually) got the td, but you could tell they're missing their biggest weapon.

On the other hand, Ingram is reminding me of Tuck. Great athleticism, nonstop motor, and he's playing inside and out.

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 04:49 PM
Donte Paige Moss is declaring for the NFL Draft even though he lost his starting job and is having ACL surgery next week.Good luck with that Donte.


Here is Donte on Twitter during Bowl week

"Worst xmas eva cant wait till.this horrible bowl in this horrible city wit sum of da mos horrible coaches r ova"

"Sum.of.yall mofos jus haten cuz yall.gotta pay.fo.skool"

and then theres this little gem..

"#unc. Fans r.the.worse.we.win its all.good. Have a bad game we suck thats.a.reason #imout #nosupport"


He might not even get drafted.He wants to draft a guy that didnt produce at a high level,Calls out his coaches,his school, and his fan base.On top of all that he is having ACL surgery.Serious immaturity issues ,injury concerns and mediocre production.

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 05:14 PM
Donte Paige Moss is declaring for the NFL Draft even though he lost his starting job and is having ACL surgery next week.Good luck with that Donte.


Here is Donte on Twitter during Bowl week

"Worst xmas eva cant wait till.this horrible bowl in this horrible city wit sum of da mos horrible coaches r ova"

"Sum.of.yall mofos jus haten cuz yall.gotta pay.fo.skool"

and then theres this little gem..

"#unc. Fans r.the.worse.we.win its all.good. Have a bad game we suck thats.a.reason #imout #nosupport"


He might not even get drafted.He wants to draft a guy that didnt produce at a high level,Calls out his coaches,his school, and his fan base.On top of all that he is having ACL surgery.Serious immaturity issues ,injury concerns and mediocre production.

Wanna bet the jets pick him in the 2nd or 3rd? That's about par for the course...

BlueSanta
01-02-2012, 05:34 PM
I am really looking forward to the Rose Bowl.

I do think we need a Rb in the draft, and these are 2 very good backs we are about to watch.


There are also some studs on that Wisconsin Oline. Unlike past Wisconsin lines, these guys have really good technique and arent just pure power blockers.

BlueSanta
01-02-2012, 07:09 PM
Ok explain this to me.

Monte Ball just tied Barry Sanders single season record for TDs right? They include his bowl game totals in the season totals.

The problem? They do not include the 5 td Barry had in his bowl game for his record total.



Monte is a stud, but this isnt right.

Redeyejedi
01-02-2012, 08:02 PM
I for the life of me dont get why people like Nick Toon.The Guy is so slow and gets zero separation.The days of that receiver are over.Back up red zone guy at best.

Raptor22
01-02-2012, 08:46 PM
I for the life of me dont get why people like Nick Toon.The Guy is so slow and gets zero separation.The days of that receiver are over.Back up red zone guy at best.

Fond memories of Ren & Stimpy, AHHH! Real Monsters, and Doug?

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 10:03 PM
Donte Paige Moss is declaring for the NFL Draft even though he lost his starting job and is having ACL surgery next week.Good luck with that Donte.


Here is Donte on Twitter during Bowl week

"Worst xmas eva cant wait till.this horrible bowl in this horrible city wit sum of da mos horrible coaches r ova"

"Sum.of.yall mofos jus haten cuz yall.gotta pay.fo.skool"

and then theres this little gem..

"#unc. Fans r.the.worse.we.win its all.good. Have a bad game we suck thats.a.reason #imout #nosupport"


He might not even get drafted.He wants to draft a guy that didnt produce at a high level,Calls out his coaches,his school, and his fan base.On top of all that he is having ACL surgery.Serious immaturity issues ,injury concerns and mediocre production. wow!!!lol Is this for real? What a idiot! He should of wrote "worst production outta dude who was supposed to be good eva" lol

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 10:09 PM
As i've said most of this yr and again i feel is true Today Ryan Tannehill not overly impressive against a NW D that is dreadful He let them back in the game and his play has dropped considerbly as the games gone on and with a ridiculous heap of weapons to boot Hes a guy i woulden't touch untill RD3 at the earliest I would rather have Nick Foles I wonder how Foles would be if he were on a good team?One thing about A&M though for all there weapons they drop a ton of balls. They had a ton of drops against Northwestern they dropped like 10 against Kansas State.Fuller gets zero separation.the best players are the RB's Your right about the drops Still though u gotta admit tannehills decison making and accuracy has been ridiculously inconsistent this yr As far as fuller hes just not hungry all the time He reminds me of Roy Williams WR Bears A dude with mad talent that will flash at times probably have one or 2 solid seasons and then u just wonder where it went by yr 3or4??lol Fuller should be good enough to get talked about as a 1st rounder with his ability and frame

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 10:12 PM
Early mock draft because i'm still high on the fact were in the postseason and i just want to do anything giants related right now!!lol I will still do a weekly mock untill there outta the playoffs or after the Super bowl if they make it that far and then i'm done with mocks for awhile Anyhow i got us picking 25th this week

1 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- We won't have a chance at him this late in RD 2 and hes the best at his positon and i see him as a Antonio gates type player in this league and we could use a TE to complete the Offense and we don't have but Ballard as far as ALL AROUND TE's on the roster Its alittle bit Spoling yourself type pick as our Pass Catchers are so awesome but adding Allen Isn't a bad idea as late in RD 1 as were picking as it puts us in the NO NE and GB category of all around top of the league Deepest Pass Catching Arsenal I wish mercilus was gonna be here and last wk's mock 1st rder for us that i had was Devon Still whos also a nice pick but Allen is a guy i think will pay huge divedens and totally complete us as a offense

2 Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt- This guys as good as anyone not named Claiborne outta the 2012 CB prospects in my opinion! We could use one more stout CB in our rotation especially with Aaron Ross's pending FA'cy and Webster anotehr yr older and TT being a FA and coming off a Full Season lost due to injury Hayward is a Ballhawk with speed who mixes it up in the run game Another words hes the complete package

3 Audie Cole LB Nc State- Obviously goff will be coming off a yr lost due to injury and Greg Jones has to prove hes more then Depth still and Cole had a really nice season and is a fantastic mlb! Cole is solid value and at a positon we could use one more quality player to compete and at least for Depth purposes Cole looked fabulous in his teams bowl game the other day

4 Terrance Ganaway RB Baylor- I like Ganaway alot and he would seemingly fill the role i'm assumin is gonna be vacated after the season when Jacobs leaves

5 Jaye Howard DT Florida- Could be a solid rotational DT in the pros Up and down season but clearly the potentail for a solid NFL player is there Solid to Real Solid Value late 5th round

6 Blake Gideon FS Texas- Gideons got non stop motor and is pretty solid all around S who isn't the most athletic freak at the positon but gets it done by being a bright hard working player who brings it every day Gideon could end up being a beast ST's player and possibly more with a bit of luck

7 moe Petrus C UCONN- A solid 7 rd pick at a positon could use some depth I seen a bit of UCONN and Petrus has looked good most of those times

Obviously there is no oline till rd 7 but we do have FA'cy as well where we could get someone

I think this is my favorite one you have done. I love Allen.Casey Heyward is one of the most underrated players in the nation.Audie Cole is a guy that fits the SOLB/MLB role that im looking for. ya casey hayward is fantastic! THanks for the props

nycsportzfan
01-02-2012, 10:17 PM
THis would be a great yr for the Giants to try and trade for a 2nd 1st rounder or trade down in RD 1 if possible and get 2 2nd rounders It'd be great if they could get a interior lineman like Konz or Decastro and still get a Dwayne Allen or Whitney mercilus or if it were a ex 2nd a guy like Kevin Zeitler and Casey Hayward(example) We usually don't do trades but Osi having a big game yesterday and if he can have a big playoffs he might of ended the season on a high enough note we can get a team to bite on a 2nd rounder even if we have to offer a 4th rounder or something


markelle martin is a beast by the way!

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 12:34 AM
I think Va Tech is gonna beat the Wolverines tommorow I see David Wilson going for 150yrd and at least a TD and they'll get enough outta Logan Thomas through the air and on the ground to give them the Win Also i like Tech's D better And the fact Tech is probably fuming off there pathetic effort in ACC title game

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 12:56 AM
Andrew Luck is sure looking like the Number 1 player in the country today! What a sensational game! Also i like markelle martin Would not mind getting him in RD 2 at all! And David Decastro is one of the best interior lineman i've seen in awhile and that inludes the pouncey brothers This kid is flat out sensational!

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 12:56 AM
*I think Va Tech is gonna beat the Wolverines tommorow*** I see David Wilson going for 150yrd and at least a TD* and** they'll get enough outta Logan Thomas through the air and on the ground to give them the Win** Also i like Tech's D better** And the fact Tech is probably fuming off there pathetic effort in ACC title game**
U see Wilson is returning to school

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 01:01 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up.
U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every game

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 01:17 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up.
U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every game To bad Kickers in College football are a embaressement to Athletics everywhere What a freaking joke! Just the fact that i knew he was gonna miss a chip 34yrder is freaking comical! Seriously i've seen about 9missed FG's outta like 14today LOL Freaking clowns

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 01:17 AM
I think Va Tech is gonna beat the Wolverines tommorow I see David Wilson going for 150yrd and at least a TD and they'll get enough outta Logan Thomas through the air and on the ground to give them the Win Also i like Tech's D better And the fact Tech is probably fuming off there pathetic effort in ACC title game
U see Wilson is returning to school did not know that Alot of kids returning it seems this season

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 01:22 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up.
U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every game Ya if i'm the rams I am taking Justin Blackmon num 2overall Hes a carbon copy of a young Terrell Owens U gotta take em Give Bradford a legit couple wideouts That'd be a sick duo with Brandon Lloyd and they'd have a couple young kids in Salas and Pettis to fill out the group

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 01:30 AM
wow That Kicker for Stanford just cost stanford and there players some serious memories! Unfreakingbelievable! Thank god that WR was down because it was gonna cost me loot on a day i did pretty badly Feeewww! Diffrence of being down like 200 and being down like 97

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 01:32 AM
wow* That Kicker for Stanford just cost stanford and there players some serious memories!* Unfreakingbelievable!* Thank god that WR was down because it was gonna cost me loot on a day i* did pretty badly*** Feeewww!* Diffrence of being down like 200 and being down like 97
I dont understand why these coaches let the kickers decide games. I knew he was going to miss it.Luck was 27/31 tonight and lost

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 01:35 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up.
U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every game To bad Kickers in College football are a embaressement to Athletics everywhere** What a freaking joke!* Just the fact that i knew he was gonna miss a chip 34yrder is freaking comical! Seriously i've seen about 9missed FG's outta like 14today LOL*** Freaking clowns
Why dont big schools recruit kickers.

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 01:35 AM
wow That Kicker for Stanford just cost stanford and there players some serious memories! Unfreakingbelievable! Thank god that WR was down because it was gonna cost me loot on a day i did pretty badly Feeewww! Diffrence of being down like 200 and being down like 97
I dont understand why these coaches let the kickers decide games. I knew he was going to miss it.Luck was 27/31 tonight and lost He didn't lose The only Loser on Stanford tonight is that pathetic excuse for a kicker I just dont get kids today? Are they just so lazy that they don't practice like they used to and it effects there on field performance? In college anything past 23yrds or so is a 50/50 shot it seems Its truly ridiculous

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 01:41 AM
wow* That Kicker for Stanford just cost stanford and there players some serious memories!* Unfreakingbelievable!* Thank god that WR was down because it was gonna cost me loot on a day i* did pretty badly*** Feeewww!* Diffrence of being down like 200 and being down like 97
I dont understand why these coaches let the kickers decide games. I knew he was going to miss it.Luck was 27/31 tonight and lost He didn't lose*** The only Loser on Stanford tonight is that pathetic excuse for a kicker*** I just dont get kids today?* Are they just so lazy that they don't practice like they used to and it effects there on field performance?* In college* anything past 23yrds or so is a 50/50 shot it seems** Its truly ridiculous
He is a Freshman.He looked scared out of his mind when he went out there. They had a minute put the ball in the endzone with Luck

poppa smurph
01-03-2012, 06:58 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up.
U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every gameTaylor was impressive last night, also stanfords TE's, how do they stack up with the rest of the nation's? Be nice to find a diamond in the rough.

Raptor22
01-03-2012, 01:24 PM
wow* That Kicker for Stanford just cost stanford and there players some serious memories!* Unfreakingbelievable!* Thank god that WR was down because it was gonna cost me loot on a day i* did pretty badly*** Feeewww!* Diffrence of being down like 200 and being down like 97
I dont understand why these coaches let the kickers decide games. I knew he was going to miss it.Luck was 27/31 tonight and lost He didn't lose*** The only Loser on Stanford tonight is that pathetic excuse for a kicker*** I just dont get kids today?* Are they just so lazy that they don't practice like they used to and it effects there on field performance?* In college* anything past 23yrds or so is a 50/50 shot it seems** Its truly ridiculous


It'd be interesting to compare schools' soccer programs w/ their kicking games. It could just be that the kids with good legs are playing soccer. That sport IS getting more popular.

shame Luck didnt get the W, though.

BlueSanta
01-03-2012, 02:21 PM
I think Va Tech is gonna beat the Wolverines tommorow I see David Wilson going for 150yrd and at least a TD and they'll get enough outta Logan Thomas through the air and on the ground to give them the Win Also i like Tech's D better And the fact Tech is probably fuming off there pathetic effort in ACC title game
U see Wilson is returning to school

Really? I didnt expect that.

Where did you hear that? I havent been able to find anything.

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 06:04 PM
wow* That Kicker for Stanford just cost stanford and there players some serious memories!* Unfreakingbelievable!* Thank god that WR was down because it was gonna cost me loot on a day i* did pretty badly*** Feeewww!* Diffrence of being down like 200 and being down like 97
I dont understand why these coaches let the kickers decide games. I knew he was going to miss it.Luck was 27/31 tonight and lost He didn't lose*** The only Loser on Stanford tonight is that pathetic excuse for a kicker*** I just dont get kids today?* Are they just so lazy that they don't practice like they used to and it effects there on field performance?* In college* anything past 23yrds or so is a 50/50 shot it seems** Its truly ridiculous


It'd be interesting to compare schools' soccer programs w/ their kicking games. It could just be that the kids with good legs are playing soccer. That sport IS getting more popular.

shame Luck didnt get the W, though.I putting together an Alshon Jeffery video and the SC kicker missed a 20 yard field Goal

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 06:47 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 09:13 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 09:47 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder** hes really good** Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school

Sanu and Reiff are coming out

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 09:48 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder** hes really good** Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
4th round realistically means he would get drafted in the 3rd.There real safe grades

buddy33
01-03-2012, 09:49 PM
I really like Sanu. To bad the Giants don't need him. They have other bigger needs.

tonyt830
01-03-2012, 10:09 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school Sanu and Reiff are coming outwell that sucks that Ball is not coming out. But that said, after watching the Liberty Bowl Saturday, I would love to see Isaiah Pead and Casey Hayward in a Giants uni next season. They would be 2 great 3rd/4th rd picks for the Gmen! Derek Wolfe from Cincy looks pretty solid as well.</P>


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Now I would not mind hearing Doug Martin's name called as a 3rd or 4th rd RB for us, if Pead and Polk are gone. </P>

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 11:24 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school Sanu and Reiff are coming outwell that sucks that Ball is not coming out. But that said, after watching the Liberty Bowl Saturday, I would love to see Isaiah Pead and Casey Hayward in a Giants uni next season. They would be 2 great 3rd/4th rd picks for the Gmen! Derek Wolfe from Cincy looks pretty solid as well.</p>


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Now I would not mind hearing Doug Martin's name called as a 3rd or 4th rd RB for us, if Pead and Polk are gone. </p> zero chance that we can get Hayward in RD 3 If anything the guy might surprise and be a late 1st round pick hes that good! Hes on of my favorite and most underrated prospects in this yrs prospect crop Hes a ballhawk extrodinaire who also plays the run Heres a cool list of TOP SEC bowl performers<div class="mod-header">
<h1 class="h3">Top SEC bowlperformers</h1><div class="datetime">
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The SEC still has three bowl teams left, but we're going to take a look
at some players who have already seen their seasons come to an end.



It was a fun weekend of football and a good weekend for the SEC. The
conference went 4-2, with Georgia and Vanderbilt being the only teams
to come up short.



With those games came some pretty good performances from players.



Here are some top performers:
<ul> Vick Ballard (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/501566/vick-ballard), RB, Mississippi State:
He saved one of his best performances for last, as he rushed for 180
yards and two touchdowns on just 14 carries. His touchdowns went for 60
and 72 yards. Archibald Barnes, LB, Vanderbilt: He was all over
the field for the Commodores, leading the Liberty Bowl with 10 total
tackles. He also blocked a field goal in the fourth quarter that gave
Vandy some life late. Emory Blake (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/480370/emory-blake), WR, Auburn:
Blake made his day in the Georgia Dome look easy as he caught six
passes for 108 yards in the win over Virginia in the Chick-fil-A Bowl. Jon Bostic, LB, Florida: He was one of the most active players on defense this past weekend, recording eight tackles, including four for loss. Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia: In his final game as a
Bulldog, Boykin found a way to put points on the board three different
ways in the Outback Bowl. First, he forced a safety when he stuffed
Michigan State's Keshawn Martin (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381922/keshawn-martin)
on the Spartans' first offensive play. He then returned a punt 92
yards for a touchdown and caught a 13-yard touchdown late. His punt
return was the longest play in Outback Bowl history. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina: The true
freshman put a stamp on his first season by recording two sacks for a
loss of 13 yards. He finished the Capital One Bowl with four total
tackles. Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State: Cox made sure
he went out with a blast in the Music City Bowl, recording seven
tackles, with two coming for loss, had a sack and blocked a field goal. Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt: He grabbed eight
tackles, including one for loss, and grabbed two interceptions. With
his picks, Hayward tied for first in career interceptions at
Vanderbilt. Alshon Jeffery (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/483175/alshon-jeffery), WR, South Carolina:
If not for his ejection, Jeffery's numbers would have been much
better. Still, he caught just four passes for a game-high 148 yards. He
snagged Connor Shaw (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/504292/connor-shaw)'s Hail Mary touchdown pass at the end of the first half and had a 78-yard reception. Tavarres King (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/378226/tavarres-king), WR, Georgia:
King was almost one of the heroes for Georgia, catching six passes for
a career-high 205 yards and had an 80-yard touchdown reception, which
was also a career long. Before Boykin's punt return, King's play stood
as the longest play in Outback Bowl history. Onterio McCalebb (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/480385/onterio-mccalebb), RB, Auburn:
Taking over as Auburn's lead back in the Chick-fil-A Bowl, McCalebb
had a game-high 109 rushing yards, including a long of 60 yards. He
also recorded a 3-yard touchdown run and caught two passes for 53
yards, including a 25-yard touchdown. Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia: He was all over the
field for the Bulldogs, recording an Outback Bowl-high 13 tackles,
including two for loss, broke up two passes and had a sack. Chris Rainey (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/235222/chris-rainey), RB, Florida:
Rainey ended his Florida career with a great showing against Ohio State
in the Taxslayer.com Gator Bowl. He led Florida with 71 rushing yards,
had 31 receiving yards and blocked a punt that was scooped up and run in
for a touchdown by linebacker Graham Stewart. Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina: Shaw didn't let
the big stage bother him, as he passed for 230 yards and two
touchdowns, including a nifty Hail Mary to end the first half. He also
carried the ball for 42 yards and another touchdown.i[/list]</div>

nycsportzfan
01-03-2012, 11:26 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school

Sanu and Reiff are coming out I wonder if the change in Draft pick money is having anything to do with so many retruning players ? How high do u think Brandon Boykin jumped his stock with his bowl game?

Redeyejedi
01-03-2012, 11:50 PM
*I think Va Tech is gonna beat the Wolverines tommorow*** I see David Wilson going for 150yrd and at least a TD* and** they'll get enough outta Logan Thomas through the air and on the ground to give them the Win** Also i like Tech's D better** And the fact Tech is probably fuming off there pathetic effort in ACC title game**
U see Wilson is returning to school

Really?* I didnt expect that.

Where did you hear that? I havent been able to find anything.
Sorry guys got bum infi from Twitter wont post that crap again until I see more then 1 source

BlueSanta
01-04-2012, 12:36 AM
I think Va Tech is gonna beat the Wolverines tommorow I see David Wilson going for 150yrd and at least a TD and they'll get enough outta Logan Thomas through the air and on the ground to give them the Win Also i like Tech's D better And the fact Tech is probably fuming off there pathetic effort in ACC title game
U see Wilson is returning to school

Really? I didnt expect that.

Where did you hear that? I havent been able to find anything.
Sorry guys got bum infi from Twitter wont post that crap again until I see more then 1 source
Sok, but I am happy u were wrong hehe. I like that kid

BlueSanta
01-04-2012, 01:01 AM
I kinda feel like the refs gave that game to Michigan at the end there.

Sure seemed like that VT wr caught that ball to me.

Redeyejedi
01-04-2012, 01:49 AM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder** hes really good** Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school

Sanu and Reiff are coming out* I wonder if the change in Draft pick money is having anything to do with so many retruning players ?***** How high do u think Brandon Boykin jumped his stock with his bowl game?Sorry guys I think I got the Ball rumor from the same tweeter. i saw from a source i trust on there that Ball will decide tomorrow.Also saw that Ronnie Hillman is declaring.Man if all these RB;s come out some are bound slip into the middle rounds.Could get a great back in the 4th Round this year.

nycsportzfan
01-04-2012, 08:16 AM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school

Sanu and Reiff are coming out I wonder if the change in Draft pick money is having anything to do with so many retruning players ? How high do u think Brandon Boykin jumped his stock with his bowl game?Sorry guys I think I got the Ball rumor from the same tweeter. i saw from a source i trust on there that Ball will decide tomorrow.Also saw that Ronnie Hillman is declaring.Man if all these RB;s come out some are bound slip into the middle rounds.Could get a great back in the 4th Round this year. wow if ball and hillman join lamar miller Chris Polk Bernard Pierce Doug martin Isaiah Pead Trent Richardson Lamichael James Terrance Ganaway and Vick Ballard your talking one seriously talented pool of RB's! I would think we could snag Ganaway in RD 4 or at least Ballard for sure if this is the case I gotta say i would not be opposed for taking Lamichael James in RD 2-3 if he were there as well To be honest i'd take any one of those backs i just mentioned and be stoked!

Redeyejedi
01-04-2012, 10:00 AM
If RS Sophomore Sam Montgomery of LSU comes out he is my top Pass Rusher

BlueSanta
01-04-2012, 06:32 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school

Sanu and Reiff are coming out I wonder if the change in Draft pick money is having anything to do with so many retruning players ? How high do u think Brandon Boykin jumped his stock with his bowl game?Sorry guys I think I got the Ball rumor from the same tweeter. i saw from a source i trust on there that Ball will decide tomorrow.Also saw that Ronnie Hillman is declaring.Man if all these RB;s come out some are bound slip into the middle rounds.Could get a great back in the 4th Round this year. wow if ball and hillman join lamar miller Chris Polk Bernard Pierce Doug martin Isaiah Pead Trent Richardson Lamichael James Terrance Ganaway and Vick Ballard your talking one seriously talented pool of RB's! I would think we could snag Ganaway in RD 4 or at least Ballard for sure if this is the case I gotta say i would not be opposed for taking Lamichael James in RD 2-3 if he were there as well To be honest i'd take any one of those backs i just mentioned and be stoked!


I agree.

It couldnt come in a better year too. We are due to pay BJ $4.4 mill this spring. With all due respect to BJ and all he has done for us, I just dont see us paying him that type of cash. Miller, Ball, Wilson, Hillman, Polk, Pierce, Pead, TR, LJ are all guys I love. I may expand on that list as I get a better look at some other guys this offseason.

I was also looking at our TE group and currently we have 1 TE(Beckum...ugh) who is signed for next year. I may ned to start looking closer at some of the mid/late round TEs cause it is beginning to seem likely we address that position too.

Redeyejedi
01-04-2012, 07:36 PM
Tyker Eifert received a 3rd round grade from the advisory board doubt he declares.I think thats crazy he is an early 2nd rounder on my board

BlueSanta
01-04-2012, 07:57 PM
Tyker Eifert received a 3rd round grade from the advisory board doubt he declares.I think thats crazy he is an early 2nd rounder on my board


This years bowl game had to help his stock. I would think he goes before 3rd too.

tonyt830
01-04-2012, 08:13 PM
Tyker Eifert received a 3rd round grade from the advisory board doubt he declares.I think thats crazy he is an early 2nd rounder on my board


This years bowl game had to help his stock. I would think he goes before 3rd too.
Well I thought Eifert would be a good addition to our offense. I guess Allen and Fleener are the top 2 TEs coming into the draft. Orson Charles has looked pretty good this year. I dont think his blocking may be as good some. Anyone have any opinions of that TE from Missouri--Egnew? I see his is a senior.</P>


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But Santa, I agree, TE should be addressed. The Beckum experiment is over IMO. Lets get a compliment for Ballard.</P>


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I do like the class of RBs coming out in this draft. The Giants would not even have to stretch to get a good RB, should the Giants decide to part ways with Jacobs.</P>


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nycsportzfan
01-04-2012, 08:44 PM
Jonathan Banks "Miss St" is returning to school after getting a 4th round grade from the advisory board really? Wow i thught banks would be a sure fire 2nd rounder hes really good Fletcher Cox is coming out and is a beast
Montee Ball returning to school

Sanu and Reiff are coming out I wonder if the change in Draft pick money is having anything to do with so many retruning players ? How high do u think Brandon Boykin jumped his stock with his bowl game?Sorry guys I think I got the Ball rumor from the same tweeter. i saw from a source i trust on there that Ball will decide tomorrow.Also saw that Ronnie Hillman is declaring.Man if all these RB;s come out some are bound slip into the middle rounds.Could get a great back in the 4th Round this year. wow if ball and hillman join lamar miller Chris Polk Bernard Pierce Doug martin Isaiah Pead Trent Richardson Lamichael James Terrance Ganaway and Vick Ballard your talking one seriously talented pool of RB's! I would think we could snag Ganaway in RD 4 or at least Ballard for sure if this is the case I gotta say i would not be opposed for taking Lamichael James in RD 2-3 if he were there as well To be honest i'd take any one of those backs i just mentioned and be stoked!


I agree.

It couldnt come in a better year too. We are due to pay BJ $4.4 mill this spring. With all due respect to BJ and all he has done for us, I just dont see us paying him that type of cash. Miller, Ball, Wilson, Hillman, Polk, Pierce, Pead, TR, LJ are all guys I love. I may expand on that list as I get a better look at some other guys this offseason.

I was also looking at our TE group and currently we have 1 TE(Beckum...ugh) who is signed for next year. I may ned to start looking closer at some of the mid/late round TEs cause it is beginning to seem likely we address that position too.
your right it is a perfect year for a deep RB class for the giants Also Robert Turbin RB Utah St is in the group mentioned(i forgot about him)

Raptor22
01-04-2012, 08:47 PM
So, has Ball announced whether or not he's going to return to school?

I do like the way he runs... however, I think Doug Martin would be a phenomenal pickup. His hands would be a boon with how much Eli's throwing to backs/checking down, and just thinking of him running behind Snee and Hynoski brings a smile to my face.

I don't want to rule Jacobs out for next year. I could certainly see him signing a new, more cap friendly contract. Jacobs/Bradshaw/Scott/Martin would make for a filthy backfield.

BlueSanta
01-04-2012, 09:16 PM
So, has Ball announced whether or not he's going to return to school?

I do like the way he runs... however, I think Doug Martin would be a phenomenal pickup. His hands would be a boon with how much Eli's throwing to backs/checking down, and just thinking of him running behind Snee and Hynoski brings a smile to my face.

I don't want to rule Jacobs out for next year. I could certainly see him signing a new, more cap friendly contract. Jacobs/Bradshaw/Scott/Martin would make for a filthy backfield.


I agree Jacobs could renegotiate. The problem is he turns 30 next year, thats well past his prime and usually big men lose skills faster than small guys. Its also a perfect year to bring a guy in now since he would earn the rookie salary(about 1/7th what Jacobs is due) and we would still have Ahmad to help mentor the young guy much liker Jacobs did behind Tiki.

As to Ball. He has not announced. The thing is, with RBs it is so rare that they dont come out due to the nature of the position. Its a fragile position that takes a pounding. He is a potential 1st rounder right now and if he comes back to school then tears up his knee he may end up being a late round pick.

I would be shocked if David Wilson or Monte Ball stayed in school. I would never discourage it for any young man, but its a huge gamble to stay. their stock is likely not going to improve much from now until next year either.

Raptor22
01-04-2012, 09:53 PM
So, has Ball announced whether or not he's going to return to school?

I do like the way he runs... however, I think Doug Martin would be a phenomenal pickup. His hands would be a boon with how much Eli's throwing to backs/checking down, and just thinking of him running behind Snee and Hynoski brings a smile to my face.

I don't want to rule Jacobs out for next year. I could certainly see him signing a new, more cap friendly contract. Jacobs/Bradshaw/Scott/Martin would make for a filthy backfield.


I agree Jacobs could renegotiate. The problem is he turns 30 next year, thats well past his prime and usually big men lose skills faster than small guys. Its also a perfect year to bring a guy in now since he would earn the rookie salary(about 1/7th what Jacobs is due) and we would still have Ahmad to help mentor the young guy much liker Jacobs did behind Tiki.

As to Ball. He has not announced. The thing is, with RBs it is so rare that they dont come out due to the nature of the position. Its a fragile position that takes a pounding. He is a potential 1st rounder right now and if he comes back to school then tears up his knee he may end up being a late round pick.

I would be shocked if David Wilson or Monte Ball stayed in school. I would never discourage it for any young man, but its a huge gamble to stay. their stock is likely not going to improve much from now until next year either.






Absolutely. I don't see Ball replicating this season next year, and he could take a 2-round tumble. If he's smart he'll come out.

I don't think Jacobs is quite as far past his prime as its made out to be. I think Jacobs has enough left to warrant a new (cheaper) contract. He's still running hard, and if the line gels, he can be effective. Also, on the side of sentimentalism, it'd just kill me to see him in anything other than Giants Blue. He needs to retire a Giant.

nycsportzfan
01-04-2012, 11:12 PM
Brandon Thompson is the most overrated prospect in the country! Seriously how u could touch this guy before rd 4 is beyond me! I'd rather have Jaye Howard of Florida Thompson never does anything good

nycsportzfan
01-04-2012, 11:15 PM
Andre Ellington just destroyed Clemson with that fumble at the 1! Just killed em!

nycsportzfan
01-04-2012, 11:20 PM
wow Clemson has zero poise and a dreaful defense

buddy33
01-04-2012, 11:25 PM
Like they said during the game, WVU put up lots of yards on LSU this year.

Austin is a really nice player.

BlueSanta
01-04-2012, 11:45 PM
Clemson should fire their DC. last year and this year they had guys who were going into the draft hghly rated and yet still, they are routinely terrible on defense.

I have always thought Branch is a bit overrated. I dont think he is bad, I just think his numbers were inflated by the fact that Clemson scores so many points he got a lot of opportunity to passrush. I also see him as being a bit too right arm dependant which hurts his versatility as a pro. He has good qualities too, I just think he is a bit overrated.

NYC, I know your a fan of his. But I am not so convinced.

Redeyejedi
01-05-2012, 12:07 AM
Wow Clemson just quit after the Ellington fumble.This is pathetic display from the Clemson defense my god.Doesnt even seem like there trying its ridiculous

buddy33
01-05-2012, 12:08 AM
Wow! Austin is playing on another level.

nycsportzfan
01-05-2012, 06:55 AM
Clemson should fire their DC. last year and this year they had guys who were going into the draft hghly rated and yet still, they are routinely terrible on defense.

I have always thought Branch is a bit overrated. I dont think he is bad, I just think his numbers were inflated by the fact that Clemson scores so many points he got a lot of opportunity to passrush. I also see him as being a bit too right arm dependant which hurts his versatility as a pro. He has good qualities too, I just think he is a bit overrated.

NYC, I know your a fan of his. But I am not so convinced.
I like Branch alot and at least hes got the big plays under his belt His bum teammate Brandon Thompson is the guy who is just utterly useless They always say "oh his talent dosen't show up in box scores" LOL Ya well watching guys run up the gut at will against him does show up in the boxscore!!lol Branch is solid in my opinion with a bigtime motor(unless there being shalacked by 40 LOL) and he makes plays Its not easy being the only play maker on a crappy defense Its like the Giants under bill sheridan when everyone was saying "oh goff hasen't done much since pierces injury" and i would reply "what do u guys think hes gonna have great games when the rest of the defense is just crap?" Its just not easy to be awesome on a horrible defense because u can pick apart so many other parts of that defense at will At least Branch makes plays on his crappy defense( 73tackles 16TFL 10.5sacks)

tonyt830
01-05-2012, 08:30 AM
Brandon Thompson is the most overrated prospect in the country!* Seriously how u could touch this guy before rd 4 is beyond me!* I'd rather have Jaye Howard of Florida**** Thompson never does anything good
Yeah and just think, there was a mock or 2 that had the Giants taking Thompson in the 1st rd a couple weeks back.

Now Branch, I would be ok with in the 3rd or 4th rd. But like other posters on here, I've grown to like that Vinny Curry from Marshall.


I'm glad I did not watch that entire game last night, I'm not a big W Virginia fan and it sounds like it was a laugher from halftime on.

Redeyejedi
01-05-2012, 10:29 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up.
U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every gameTaylor was impressive last night, also stanfords TE's, how do they stack up with the rest of the nation's? Be nice to find a diamond in the rough.There arent a lot of good Receiver blocker Te's in this class. There are more joker TE's. Orson Charles Georgia is the best Joker TE in the class.Guy is an outstanding receiver. He is like a WR but he is built like one as well.He isnt an in line blocker at all.Could be the guy everyone fawns over because he will put up receiving numbers in the NFL.
Coby Fleener is a joker TE but he has the frame and size to be an in line blocker.The problem is he didnt block much in a run first offense so maybe the will to be that player isnt there. Ladarius Green of Louisana Lafayette is in the mold of Orson Charles.Great receiver with athletic ability to expose the seam.Great frame on him at 6'6" and long arms.Only weighs 236 though needs a lot of weight on him if your going to put him next to a Tackle.Lots of potential there though. Dave Paulson of Oregon is a guy i like that doesnt get much pub.Smaller guy he is quite effective as a blocker.Doesnt have the receiving numbers because of Oregon's offense.Solid number 2 TE though.Dwayne Allen the best TE in the class.Better receiver then blocker but still miles ahead of the primarily joker TE's in this class. True number 1 TE. Tyler Eifert would be the 2nd best TE in the class if he comes out. Has everything u look for in a TE.Good be the best overall TE in the class in a year or 2.

BlueSanta
01-05-2012, 02:35 PM
Clemson should fire their DC. last year and this year they had guys who were going into the draft hghly rated and yet still, they are routinely terrible on defense.

I have always thought Branch is a bit overrated. I dont think he is bad, I just think his numbers were inflated by the fact that Clemson scores so many points he got a lot of opportunity to passrush. I also see him as being a bit too right arm dependant which hurts his versatility as a pro. He has good qualities too, I just think he is a bit overrated.

NYC, I know your a fan of his. But I am not so convinced.
I like Branch alot and at least hes got the big plays under his belt His bum teammate Brandon Thompson is the guy who is just utterly useless They always say "oh his talent dosen't show up in box scores" LOL Ya well watching guys run up the gut at will against him does show up in the boxscore!!lol Branch is solid in my opinion with a bigtime motor(unless there being shalacked by 40 LOL) and he makes plays Its not easy being the only play maker on a crappy defense Its like the Giants under bill sheridan when everyone was saying "oh goff hasen't done much since pierces injury" and i would reply "what do u guys think hes gonna have great games when the rest of the defense is just crap?" Its just not easy to be awesome on a horrible defense because u can pick apart so many other parts of that defense at will At least Branch makes plays on his crappy defense( 73tackles 16TFL 10.5sacks)


Ya, im not saying he is complete garbage, he does do some things well. He deserves to be drafted for sure. I just think he is a bit overrated as a NFL prospect.

I cant get over his right hand dominance. Its SO prevalent in my eye. Its not a bad thing as a right DE cause it helps him keep outside gap control. But, it will hurt his ability to develope good technique on next level passrush moves.

Redeyejedi
01-05-2012, 02:51 PM
Im still in shock from how disgraceful of a game Clemson played last night

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 04:06 PM
<font size="3">So I just heard Florida State defensive end Brandon Jenkins is returning for his senior year. Great news for FSU fans.</font>

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 04:08 PM
<font size="3">So I just heard Florida State defensive end Brandon Jenkins is returning for his senior year. Great news for FSU fans!</font>
<font size="3"><span class="tl">FSU Defensive End Brandon Jenkins Decides Not To Enter NFL Draft (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=brandon%20jenkins%20news&amp;source=w eb&amp;cd=11&amp;ved=0CF0QqQIwCg&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.toma hawknation.com%2F2012%2F1%2F5%2F2684779%2Fbrandon-jenkins-defensive-end-fsu-florida-state-nfl-draft&amp;ei=vAEGT46qFeHt0gHKisiZDg&amp;usg=AFQjCNHwd_67w8 UxkWj0UqdQxiQQogkSdg&amp;cad=rja)</span></font>

Redeyejedi
01-05-2012, 04:16 PM
* Andre Ellington just destroyed* Clemson with that fumble at the 1!* Just killed em!Soon as he fumbled that they quit

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 04:26 PM
Andre Ellington just destroyed Clemson with that fumble at the 1! Just killed em!Soon as he fumbled that they quit<font size="3">Is anyone else hearing that TE Dwayne Allen talked about how he was getting paid at Clemson in the post game interview? He may be the best TE in this class, but what a dumb *** for publicly saying this if true.</font>

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 04:41 PM
<font size="4">http://973espn.com/listen-live/</font>

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 04:58 PM
Andre Ellington just destroyed Clemson with that fumble at the 1! Just killed em!Soon as he fumbled that they quit<font size="3">Is anyone else hearing that TE Dwayne Allen talked about how he was getting paid at Clemson in the post game interview? He may be the best TE in this class, but what a dumb *** for publicly saying this if true.</font>
<font size="3">At the 1:35 mark, </font>
<h3>Dwayne Allen Orange Bowl postgame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsHMxhDhlfw)</h3>

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 06:33 PM
<font size="3"><span class="tl">Landry Jones returning to Oklahoma for senior year (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=landry%20jones%20news&amp;source=web&amp; cd=4&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDMQqQIwAw&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmiamih erald.typepad.com%2Fdolphins_in_depth%2F2012%2F01% 2Flandry-jones-returning-to-oklahoma-for-senior-year.html&amp;ei=FyQGT5aSA-Xl0QG31rCHAQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNH3AWmB9jd5TwUTg_WGYQgQcL40K A&amp;cad=rja)</span></font>
<cite>MiamiHerald.com (blog)
</cite>

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nycsportzfan
01-05-2012, 06:51 PM
<font size="3"><span class="tl">Landry Jones returning to Oklahoma for senior year (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=landry%20jones%20news&amp;source=web&amp; cd=4&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDMQqQIwAw&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmiamih erald.typepad.com%2Fdolphins_in_depth%2F2012%2F01% 2Flandry-jones-returning-to-oklahoma-for-senior-year.html&amp;ei=FyQGT5aSA-Xl0QG31rCHAQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNH3AWmB9jd5TwUTg_WGYQgQcL40K A&amp;cad=rja)</span></font>
<cite>MiamiHerald.com (blog)
</cite>

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What a idiot! Hes lucky enough to have Barkley go back to school and he was guranteed to go in the top 15 even after what i thought was a up and down season he better hope he dosen't get hurt bad because in <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my opinion hes not really that good and certainly not as good a prospect as Sa</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m Bradford was he </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">might find hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mself behind Geno S</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mith Tahj Boyd Barkley Osweiler Tyler Wilson Aaron </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">murray Right now he'd only be behind 2 QB's with about 10tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms looking
</span>

nycsportzfan
01-05-2012, 06:58 PM
<font size="3">So I just heard Florida State defensive end Brandon Jenkins is returning for his senior year. Great news for FSU fans.</font>
wow another guy going back to school Jeez at this point were gonna have to draft Isaiah Pead in RD 1 LOL

nycsportzfan
01-05-2012, 07:00 PM
Andre Ellington just destroyed Clemson with that fumble at the 1! Just killed em!Soon as he fumbled that they quit<font size="3">Is anyone else hearing that TE Dwayne Allen talked about how he was getting paid at Clemson in the post game interview? He may be the best TE in this class, but what a dumb *** for publicly saying this if true.</font>
<font size="3">At the 1:35 mark, </font>
<h3>Dwayne Allen Orange Bowl postgame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsHMxhDhlfw)</h3> He could of <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">meant "jobwise" Then again i don't know what job he could be doing where hes </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">making "</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">money then he ever did" lol Either way he should just co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me out as hes a borderline RD 1 pick and the </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mplete TE in the draft
</span>

nycsportzfan
01-05-2012, 07:10 PM
I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever ! And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently
</span>

Redeyejedi
01-05-2012, 08:24 PM
*I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever !** And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently*
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion

Redeyejedi
01-05-2012, 08:31 PM
Now there is a rumor that Tyler Wilson has requested advisory board grade

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 09:37 PM
Andre Ellington just destroyed Clemson with that fumble at the 1! Just killed em!Soon as he fumbled that they quit<font size="3">Is anyone else hearing that TE Dwayne Allen talked about how he was getting paid at Clemson in the post game interview? He may be the best TE in this class, but what a dumb *** for publicly saying this if true.</font>
<font size="3">At the 1:35 mark, </font>
<h3>Dwayne Allen Orange Bowl postgame (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsHMxhDhlfw)</h3> He could of <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">meant "jobwise" Then again i don't know what job he could be doing where hes </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">making "</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">money then he ever did" lol Either way he should just co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me out as hes a borderline RD 1 pick and the </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mplete TE in the draft
</span>






<div class="art_headline"><font size="2"><h1>Clemson TE Dwayne Allen Says NFL is Tempting, But That He Has More Money in School (Video)</h1> (http://network.yardbarker.com/college_football/article_external/clemson_te_dwayne_allen_says_nfl_is_tempting_but_t hat_he_has_more_money_in_school_video/9155200)</font></div>

heavyhitter
01-05-2012, 10:01 PM
<font size="3"><span class="tl">Landry Jones returning to Oklahoma for senior year (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=landry%20jones%20news&amp;source=web&amp; cd=4&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CDMQqQIwAw&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fmiamih erald.typepad.com%2Fdolphins_in_depth%2F2012%2F01% 2Flandry-jones-returning-to-oklahoma-for-senior-year.html&amp;ei=FyQGT5aSA-Xl0QG31rCHAQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNH3AWmB9jd5TwUTg_WGYQgQcL40K A&amp;cad=rja)</span></font>
<cite>MiamiHerald.com (blog)
</cite>

http://blog.nsr-inc.com/wp-content/uploads/Landry-Jones-112.jpg (http://blog.nsr-inc.com/wp-content/uploads/Landry-Jones-112.jpg)
What a idiot! Hes lucky enough to have Barkley go back to school and he was guranteed to go in the top 15 even after what i thought was a up and down season he better hope he dosen't get hurt bad because in <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my opinion hes not really that good and certainly not as good a prospect as Sa</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m Bradford was he </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">might find hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mself behind Geno S</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mith Tahj Boyd Barkley Osweiler Tyler Wilson Aaron </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">murray Right now he'd only be behind 2 QB's with about 10tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms looking
</span><font size="3">Yeah, risky move IMO. I'm not sure what else he really feels like he has to prove at OU. He was pretty much locked in as a 1st rounder this year if he would have declared. With that said, I think he'll have a hell of a senior season and make a run for the National Championship Game. Barkley has still got the edge over Jones though. RG3 still hasn't made his announcement, but I expect him to declare in the next few days. Here's a look at some of the 2013 QB's: (No Order)


</font> <font size="3">Aaron Murray UGA</font> <font size="3">Matt Barkley USC</font> <font size="3">Tyler Bray Tennessee</font> <font size="3">Landry Jones Oklahoma*</font> <font size="3">Tyler Wilson Arkansas</font> <font size="3">Geno Smith West Virginia</font> <font size="3">A.J. McCarron Alabama</font> <font size="3">Tajh Boyd Clemson</font> <font size="3">Logan Thomas Virginia Tech</font> <font size="3">Mike Glennon NC State</font> <font size="3">E.J. Manuel FSU</font>

nycsportzfan
01-06-2012, 06:31 AM
I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever ! And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion Its a good decison becuase Brock realizes that not having Landry in this draft puts him right there fighting with Tannehill as the 3rd QB after Luck and RG3 Looks like Brock agrees with me that Landry is stupid for going back to school and is gonna take advantage of that Brock is fun to watch thats for sure He might not be ready yet but i think he'll be fine if he just sits a season and learns behind a Vet.


Stephen Hill WR Ga Tech also is going pro Talk about a big upside kid to take a chance on in rd 3-4 area Hes raw as it gets but the upside is through the roof!

Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 08:28 AM
*I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever !** And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently*
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion* Its a good decison becuase Brock realizes that not having Landry in this draft puts him right there fighting with Tannehill as the 3rd QB after Luck and RG3**** Looks like Brock agrees with me that* Landry is stupid for going back to school and is gonna take advantage of that****** Brock is fun to watch*** thats for sure****** He might not be ready yet** but i think he'll be fine if he just sits a season and learns behind a Vet.


Stephen Hill WR Ga Tech also is going pro** Talk about a big upside kid to take a chance on in rd 3-4 area*** Hes raw as it gets but the upside is through the roof!
The thing is I dont think he needs to sit .I think his games need a lot of work and he needs to play. I do like Brock I just hope by not playing enough in college hedoesnt end up busting. Everything is there for him to be good but whoever picks him has to be willing to take some serious growing pains.

nycsportzfan
01-06-2012, 11:27 AM
l



I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever ! And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion Its a good decison becuase Brock realizes that not having Landry in this draft puts him right there fighting with Tannehill as the 3rd QB after Luck and RG3 Looks like Brock agrees with me that Landry is stupid for going back to school and is gonna take advantage of that Brock is fun to watch thats for sure He might not be ready yet but i think he'll be fine if he just sits a season and learns behind a Vet.


Stephen Hill WR Ga Tech also is going pro Talk about a big upside kid to take a chance on in rd 3-4 area Hes raw as it gets but the upside is through the roof!
The thing is I dont think he needs to sit .I think his games need a lot of work and he needs to play. I do like Brock I just hope by not playing enough in college hedoesnt end up busting. Everything is there for him to be good but whoever picks him has to be willing to take some serious growing pains. Either way I don't think it'll decide if hes a bust or not. All though i think your right it could end up taking longer to see him performing at a hig NFL level. Eventually if hes gonna be good he'll be good though(i think)

nycsportzfan
01-06-2012, 11:31 AM
hey whats everyones take on Jerel Worthy? For some reason he just has a giant draft pick feel to him . I am split on how i feel about worthy. Sometimes he looks dominant and sometimes he looks like a slug lol His motor dosen't seem to rev 100pct of the time He certainly does Flash though! I guess i could see the appeal if we were to draft Worthy

Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 11:33 AM
hey* whats everyones take on Jerel Worthy?** For some reason***** he just has a giant draft pick feel to him .* I am split on how i feel about worthy. Sometimes he looks dominant*** and sometimes** he looks like a slug lol******* His motor dosen't seem to rev 100pct of the time***** He certainly does Flash though!* I guess*** i could see the appeal if we were to draft Worthy
He scares me because of his motor.Could be a dominate player though

Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 11:37 AM
l



*I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever !** And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently*
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion* Its a good decison becuase Brock realizes that not having Landry in this draft puts him right there fighting with Tannehill as the 3rd QB after Luck and RG3**** Looks like Brock agrees with me that* Landry is stupid for going back to school and is gonna take advantage of that****** Brock is fun to watch*** thats for sure****** He might not be ready yet** but i think he'll be fine if he just sits a season and learns behind a Vet.


Stephen Hill WR Ga Tech also is going pro** Talk about a big upside kid to take a chance on in rd 3-4 area*** Hes raw as it gets but the upside is through the roof!
The thing is I dont think he needs to sit .I think his games need a lot of work and he needs to play. I do like Brock I just hope by not playing enough in college hedoesnt end up busting. Everything is there for him to be good but whoever picks him has to be willing to take some serious growing pains. Either way** I don't think it'll decide if hes a bust or not.* All though i think your right it could end up taking longer to see him performing at a hig NFL level.* Eventually if hes gonna be good*** he'll be good though(i think)
The only reason why I say that is if someone is impatient with him. His game needs a lot of work and I think he needs a long rope. A team like the Colts if they wanted to keep Peyton should draft him at the Top of Round 2.

poppa smurph
01-06-2012, 11:49 AM
Andrew Luck having a masterful game tonight.Same with Justin Blackmon.All day today the big time players showed up. U know Stepfan taylor will be interesting to watch next year he has always been super productive but he gets dismissed because of Luck and the line.The guy gets a 100 yards every gameTaylor was impressive last night, also stanfords TE's, how do they stack up with the rest of the nation's? Be nice to find a diamond in the rough.There arent a lot of good Receiver blocker Te's in this class. There are more joker TE's. Orson Charles Georgia is the best Joker TE in the class.Guy is an outstanding receiver. He is like a WR but he is built like one as well.He isnt an in line blocker at all.Could be the guy everyone fawns over because he will put up receiving numbers in the NFL. Coby Fleener is a joker TE but he has the frame and size to be an in line blocker.The problem is he didnt block much in a run first offense so maybe the will to be that player isnt there. Ladarius Green of Louisana Lafayette is in the mold of Orson Charles.Great receiver with athletic ability to expose the seam.Great frame on him at 6'6" and long arms.Only weighs 236 though needs a lot of weight on him if your going to put him next to a Tackle.Lots of potential there though. Dave Paulson of Oregon is a guy i like that doesnt get much pub.Smaller guy he is quite effective as a blocker.Doesnt have the receiving numbers because of Oregon's offense.Solid number 2 TE though.Dwayne Allen the best TE in the class.Better receiver then blocker but still miles ahead of the primarily joker TE's in this class. True number 1 TE. Tyler Eifert would be the 2nd best TE in the class if he comes out. Has everything u look for in a TE.Good be the best overall TE in the class in a year or 2.Thnx for the info redeye[Y]

Raptor22
01-06-2012, 12:52 PM
l



I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever ! And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion Its a good decison becuase Brock realizes that not having Landry in this draft puts him right there fighting with Tannehill as the 3rd QB after Luck and RG3 Looks like Brock agrees with me that Landry is stupid for going back to school and is gonna take advantage of that Brock is fun to watch thats for sure He might not be ready yet but i think he'll be fine if he just sits a season and learns behind a Vet.


Stephen Hill WR Ga Tech also is going pro Talk about a big upside kid to take a chance on in rd 3-4 area Hes raw as it gets but the upside is through the roof!
The thing is I dont think he needs to sit .I think his games need a lot of work and he needs to play. I do like Brock I just hope by not playing enough in college hedoesnt end up busting. Everything is there for him to be good but whoever picks him has to be willing to take some serious growing pains. Either way I don't think it'll decide if hes a bust or not. All though i think your right it could end up taking longer to see him performing at a hig NFL level. Eventually if hes gonna be good he'll be good though(i think)
The only reason why I say that is if someone is impatient with him. His game needs a lot of work and I think he needs a long rope. A team like the Colts if they wanted to keep Peyton should draft him at the Top of Round 2.

If Peyton's fully healthy, trade the 1st (to NOT the redskins &gt;_&gt;) get the king's ransom, draft Brock, get some big, fast receivers... $$$.

Colts play half their games (at least) in favorable weather conditions, and with a guy like Brock... that could be a scary vertical attack. He sure as hell ain't going to lose sight of the field behind his line lol.

heavyhitter
01-06-2012, 03:48 PM
<font size="3"><span class="tl">Virginia Tech RB David Wilson to skip senior season, enter NFL (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=david%20wilson%20news&amp;source=web&amp; cd=1&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CCUQqQIwAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wa shingtonpost.com%2Fsports%2Fcolleges%2Fvirginia-tech-rb-david-wilson-to-skip-senior-season-enter-nfl-draft-was-acc-player-of-year%2F2012%2F01%2F06%2FgIQA7fF6eP_story.html%3Fti d%3Dpm_sports_pop&amp;ei=qUoHT5f3F6Pp0gGT_a3sBw&amp;usg=AF QjCNGtR0D8YWf4BJTa8w30ntovrhTwDg&amp;cad=rja)
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Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 03:51 PM
Well Michael Dyer has been released from his scholarship at Auburn. I love how these guys with surefire NFL careers just throw them out the window.He will have to sit out a year before joining Gus Malzhan at Arkansas State.Rumors ive read is that he has failed 3 drug tests which led to his suspension

BlueSanta
01-06-2012, 03:56 PM
hey whats everyones take on Jerel Worthy? For some reason he just has a giant draft pick feel to him . I am split on how i feel about worthy. Sometimes he looks dominant and sometimes he looks like a slug lol His motor dosen't seem to rev 100pct of the time He certainly does Flash though! I guess i could see the appeal if we were to draft Worthy


I think this kid has some questions about his fitness and dedication that could be answered at the combine 1 way or the other.

I guarantee scouts watching him are wondering the same things. Does this kid take plays off? Is he a great player who is out of shape or mentally undisciplined? Or is he a ok player who has a few great moments. In his case, its really hard to determine what defines him, his great plays or the rest of them.

I also wonder if he struggles with his weight. It seems his body has had a few tranformations during his college years. So I want to see how seriously he takes the combine. Does he come in lean and strong showing dedication to fitness? Or does he come in sluggish in body and mind.

Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 03:58 PM
l



*I got a feeling this is gonna be one of the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most unpredictable Drafts ever !** And thats saying so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mething with all the unperdictable drafts we've seen recently*
</span>Looks like with Barkley and Jones going back to school Brock Osweiler is going to declare. He needs so much work but has the tools.Its a good move in terms of where he will be picked but not sure if it will help his career.He isnt NFL ready in my opinion* Its a good decison becuase Brock realizes that not having Landry in this draft puts him right there fighting with Tannehill as the 3rd QB after Luck and RG3**** Looks like Brock agrees with me that* Landry is stupid for going back to school and is gonna take advantage of that****** Brock is fun to watch*** thats for sure****** He might not be ready yet** but i think he'll be fine if he just sits a season and learns behind a Vet.


Stephen Hill WR Ga Tech also is going pro** Talk about a big upside kid to take a chance on in rd 3-4 area*** Hes raw as it gets but the upside is through the roof!
The thing is I dont think he needs to sit .I think his games need a lot of work and he needs to play. I do like Brock I just hope by not playing enough in college hedoesnt end up busting. Everything is there for him to be good but whoever picks him has to be willing to take some serious growing pains. Either way** I don't think it'll decide if hes a bust or not.* All though i think your right it could end up taking longer to see him performing at a hig NFL level.* Eventually if hes gonna be good*** he'll be good though(i think)
The only reason why I say that is if someone is impatient with him. His game needs a lot of work and I think he needs a long rope. A team like the Colts if they wanted to keep Peyton should draft him at the Top of Round 2.

If Peyton's fully healthy, trade the 1st (to NOT the redskins >_>) get the king's ransom, draft Brock, get some big, fast receivers... $$$.

Colts play half their games (at least) in favorable weather conditions, and with a guy like Brock... that could be a scary vertical attack. He sure as hell ain't going to lose sight of the field behind his line lol.
I do like Brock I just wish he would of stayed another year. I do understand the move though.He is graduating this spring anyway

heavyhitter
01-06-2012, 07:53 PM
Report: CB Reid joining Jenkins in return to FSU (http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/13682485/34222605)
<font size="2">** This Florida State defense is going to be lethal next year w/ all their returning starters. Sophomore CB Xavier Rhodes is a stud and still hasn't made a decision, but IMO he returns next year. With that said, the only real losses are LB Nigel Bradham and CB Mike Harris. Easily a top 5 defense next year-</font>
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Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 09:24 PM
I cant believe this but Knile Davis is dressed on the field and warming up he may go

buddy33
01-06-2012, 10:51 PM
Anyone watching the Army All American game tomorrow?

Darius Hamilton, son of former Giants defensive player Keith Hamilton is playing in the game. He has his top 3 schools as RU, Cal, and Florida.

He is the #5 prospect in the country. Hope he picks RU.

Redeyejedi
01-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Tyler Wilson has some poor anticipation. He better return for his senior year

nycsportzfan
01-07-2012, 09:02 AM
Well I think Greg Childs WR ARK had one of the biggest ga<span class="echo-item-text">mes as far as Prospect wise in that Cotton bowl as he finally looked healthy and at least close to what he looked like last yr I could definetly see so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meone use a 5th-7thrd pick on hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span>

nycsportzfan
01-07-2012, 09:04 AM
hey whats everyones take on Jerel Worthy? For some reason he just has a giant draft pick feel to him . I am split on how i feel about worthy. Sometimes he looks dominant and sometimes he looks like a slug lol His motor dosen't seem to rev 100pct of the time He certainly does Flash though! I guess i could see the appeal if we were to draft Worthy


I think this kid has some questions about his fitness and dedication that could be answered at the combine 1 way or the other.

I guarantee scouts watching him are wondering the same things. Does this kid take plays off? Is he a great player who is out of shape or mentally undisciplined? Or is he a ok player who has a few great moments. In his case, its really hard to determine what defines him, his great plays or the rest of them.

I also wonder if he struggles with his weight. It seems his body has had a few tranformations during his college years. So I want to see how seriously he takes the combine. Does he come in lean and strong showing dedication to fitness? Or does he come in sluggish in body and mind.




ya he re<span class="echo-item-text">minds </span><span class="echo-item-text">me of the defensive version of Anthony Davis OT Rutgers fro</span><span class="echo-item-text">m a couple a seasons ago . I wanted nothing to do with hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m and certainly heard it fro</span><span class="echo-item-text">m a couple people on here but i just didn't trust his Work ethic and fro</span><span class="echo-item-text">m what i here hes been a total bust! So as u said i think the co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mbine is huge for worthy and i'll certainly get on board if he co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mes in looking good and like he has a work ethic in hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span>

Redeyejedi
01-07-2012, 09:58 AM
*Well* I think Greg Childs WR ARK had one of the biggest ga<span class="echo-item-text">mes** as far as Prospect wise in that Cotton bowl** as he finally looked healthy and at least close to what he looked like last yr** I could definetly see so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meone use a 5th-7thrd pick on hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span>My Youtube page is probably getting shut down soon. I got a strike for copyright infringment.I dont see what the big deal is Im not making any money off them

Redeyejedi
01-07-2012, 10:14 AM
*Well* I think Greg Childs WR ARK had one of the biggest ga<span class="echo-item-text">mes** as far as Prospect wise in that Cotton bowl** as he finally looked healthy and at least close to what he looked like last yr** I could definetly see so</span><span class="echo-item-text">meone use a 5th-7thrd pick on hi</span><span class="echo-item-text">m</span>Did U see Knile Davis in uniform last night.I thought he was going to go.I saw him running and cutting before the game.He might declare still.Id draft him late.
Yeah all the Arkansas WR's except Hamilton did there thing last night. Wright got deep, Adams returned a Punt,Childs moved the chains.That team was a good football team this year. They only lost to LSU and Alabama

Redeyejedi
01-07-2012, 11:12 AM
Im usually against drafting interior lineman. Maurkice Pouncey was the only 1 I really liked in the last few drafts. However Im really high on Peter Konz and have been for awhile.The only thing that worries me with him is his injury history. I think Konz could come in and start day 1 at Center or Guard. The Guy is a monster 6'5 315. Im really concerned about this Oline I just wonder if the Giants are as well. They may feel Petrus is the answer and who knows maybe he is. I just feel like the Giants need to add an immediate starter along that line.Which means a high pick interior lineman or FA. The running game can not be this bad again next year

Joe Morrison
01-07-2012, 11:36 AM
HOW ABOUT WE LOOK AT 1-8-2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Redeyejedi
01-07-2012, 11:42 AM
HOW ABOUT WE LOOK AT 1-8-2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!There 500 other threads for that. this one is for College Prospects

Redeyejedi
01-07-2012, 05:50 PM
I knew the Giants should of picked Atkins

nycsportzfan
01-07-2012, 05:57 PM
I knew the Giants should of picked Atkins Yup Geno was a sleeper of <span class="echo-item-text">mine that ended up </span><span class="echo-item-text">moving up past Sleeper Status the yr he ca</span><span class="echo-item-text">me out .
</span>

nycsportzfan
01-07-2012, 06:00 PM
Heres a little Scouting Report fro<span class="echo-item-text">m Walt football on </span><span class="echo-item-text">mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</span><font size="4"><table width="95%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td width="25%"><div align="center"> http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/WMercilus.jpg </div></td>
<td width="70%"><div align="left"> <font size="5" color="navy"> Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265

Defensive End

</font> <font size="5" color="navy">Illinois </font> </div></td>

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<font size="5"> Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report </font>

<font size="3"> By Charlie Campbell </font>



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Strengths:

Raw speed to turn the edge

Agility to sink his hips/shoulder

Strength

Repertoire of moves

Active hands

Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run

Always looking to force fumbles

Quick get off

Shedding blocks when pass rushing

Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards

Extremely athletic











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Weaknesses:


One-year wonder

Lacks complete body of work in college

Quality of tackles he faced







Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
part of the game.



Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
backfield to disrupt running plays.



The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
for a loss.







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Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

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nycsportzfan
01-07-2012, 06:07 PM
I knew the Giants should of picked Atkins Yup Geno was a sleeper of <span class="echo-item-text">mine that ended up </span><span class="echo-item-text">moving up past Sleeper Status the yr he ca</span><span class="echo-item-text">me out .
</span> Guess we should of waited before giving Geno his props as he just looked like a a<span class="echo-item-text">matuer on that TD drive by Houston . How Cincy's D lets Yates drive right down the field on e</span><span class="echo-item-text">m after they take a 7-0 lead if beyond </span><span class="echo-item-text">me! Show so</span><span class="echo-item-text">me pride!
</span>

Spizi
01-08-2012, 06:11 PM
After today's game if there was any focus on drafting a DT it should be completely shifted to LB, CB, or Oline. Canty and Joseph were plugging the middle all day!

Hopefully Kuechly will be there or DeCastro.

Raptor22
01-08-2012, 06:48 PM
I'm happy enough with the way the team is playing right now, I think that just getting healthy and resigning free agents will be like a whole extra draft.

BPA all the way. Just add talent, only JR knows where it will be needed next.

Redeyejedi
01-08-2012, 06:58 PM
*Heres a little Scouting Report fro<span class="echo-item-text">m* Walt football on </span><span class="echo-item-text">mercilus ** I only put it on here because of the player co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mparison of JPP * I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic ** u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</span><font size="4"><table width="95%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td width="25%"><div align="center"> http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/WMercilus.jpg </div></td>
<td width="70%"><div align="left"> <font size="5" color="navy"> Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265

Defensive End

</font> <font size="5" color="navy">Illinois </font> </div></td>

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<font size="5"> Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report </font>

<font size="3"> By Charlie Campbell </font>



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</font>

<div class="article">

Strengths:

Raw speed to turn the edge

Agility to sink his hips/shoulder

Strength

Repertoire of moves

Active hands

Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run

Always looking to force fumbles

Quick get off

Shedding blocks when pass rushing

Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards

Extremely athletic











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Weaknesses:


One-year wonder

Lacks complete body of work in college

Quality of tackles he faced







Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
part of the game.



Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
backfield to disrupt running plays.



The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
for a loss.







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</center>







Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

</div>He is the only 1 ive seen call him a fantastic athlete.Fantastic athletes in college usually dont play Strongside end.He is a lot stiffer then JPP.JPP is much more of a bender. I do think he is a very good player though and I have no problem adding another pass rusher

Raptor22
01-08-2012, 07:13 PM
*Removed for to keep the post from being a mile long*He is the only 1 ive seen call him a fantastic athlete.Fantastic athletes in college usually dont play Strongside end.He is a lot stiffer then JPP.JPP is much more of a bender. I do think he is a very good player though and I have no problem adding another pass rusher

Mercilus kinda reminds me of Kiwi. Good athlete, but not on JPP's level of freakishness. I'd be thrilled to pick him up.


I wonder what would happen if JR had to chose between:

Kuechly
DeCastro
Mercilus
Kirkpatrick
Richardson
Floyd (or possibly Jeffery)

I foresee head explosion.

Redeyejedi
01-08-2012, 07:42 PM
Started looking at Casy Hayward tonight.Trying to watch 2 games against Arkansas and the Bowl game.

I really think he is a good fit for what Fewell likes to do. Fantastic in zone coverage

Redeyejedi
01-08-2012, 07:43 PM
Hers the guys that have accepted Senior Bowl invites


No. Name Position HT/WT School
TBA Allen, Antonio DB 6-2 / 202 South Carolina
TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi St.
TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
TBA Boykin, Brandon DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
TBA Ganoway, Terrance RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
TBA Mosley, Brandon OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
TBA Troutman, Johnnie OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
TBA Wright, Kendall WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor


A lot of peope are high on this Mccants OT from UAB havent seen him play

Raptor22
01-08-2012, 07:58 PM
Lots there to watch there.

Definitely looking forward to seeing Doug Martin, Kellen Moore, Melvin Ingram and Devon Still go.

Redeyejedi
01-08-2012, 08:05 PM
I wonder if Jordan Rodgers will get a shot in the NFL just because of his brother. He kind of sux though.Vanderbilt really doesnt have many weapons though

heavyhitter
01-08-2012, 08:43 PM
I wonder if Jordan Rodgers will get a shot in the NFL just because of his brother. He kind of sux though.Vanderbilt really doesnt have many weapons though<font size="2">Have you seen him play? If Marcus Vick got a shot, maybe this guy will too, IDK?</font>

heavyhitter
01-08-2012, 08:49 PM
Heres a little Scouting Report fro<span class="echo-item-text">m Walt football on </span><span class="echo-item-text">mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</span><font size="4"><table border="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr><td width="25%"><div align="center"> http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/WMercilus.jpg </div></td>
<td width="70%"><div align="left"> <font color="navy" size="5"> Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265

Defensive End

</font> <font color="navy" size="5">Illinois </font> </div></td>

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<font size="5"> Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report </font>

<font size="3"> By Charlie Campbell </font>



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Strengths:

Raw speed to turn the edge

Agility to sink his hips/shoulder

Strength

Repertoire of moves

Active hands

Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run

Always looking to force fumbles

Quick get off

Shedding blocks when pass rushing

Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards

Extremely athletic











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Weaknesses:


One-year wonder

Lacks complete body of work in college

Quality of tackles he faced







Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
part of the game.



Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
backfield to disrupt running plays.



The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
for a loss.







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Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

</div><font size="2">Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous. </font>

nycsportzfan
01-08-2012, 10:06 PM
Heres a little Scouting Report fro<span class="echo-item-text">m Walt football on </span><span class="echo-item-text">mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</span><font size="4"><table border="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr><td width="25%"><div align="center"> http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/WMercilus.jpg </div></td>
<td width="70%"><div align="left"> <font color="navy" size="5"> Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265

Defensive End

</font> <font color="navy" size="5">Illinois </font> </div></td>

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<font size="3"> By Charlie Campbell </font>



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Strengths:

Raw speed to turn the edge

Agility to sink his hips/shoulder

Strength

Repertoire of moves

Active hands

Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run

Always looking to force fumbles

Quick get off

Shedding blocks when pass rushing

Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards

Extremely athletic











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Weaknesses:


One-year wonder

Lacks complete body of work in college

Quality of tackles he faced







Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
part of the game.



Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
backfield to disrupt running plays.



The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
for a loss.







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Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

</div><font size="2">Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous. </font>
Why is it ridiculous? Hes not saying hes gonna be JPP but hes saying he is a good co<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mparison of where Whitney could be if everything works out Hes also co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mparing hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m to JPP because like JPP Whitney is a one yr wonder who ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me outta nowhere and will likely fly up draft boards as the draft approaches Hes a sensational prospect and don't fall for Whitney being what hes talked about now because trust </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me when the draft is here Whitney will be going in the pick 15-23ish of the 1st round
</span>

nycsportzfan
01-08-2012, 10:11 PM
Hers the guys that have accepted Senior Bowl invites


No. Name Position HT/WT School
TBA Allen, Antonio DB 6-2 / 202 South Carolina
TBA Ballard, Vick RB 5-11 / 220 Mississippi St.
TBA Blake, Philip OL 6-3 / 320 Baylor
TBA Boykin, Brandon DB 5-10 / 183 Georgia
TBA Butler, Drew P 6-2 / 214 Georgia
TBA Crawford, Jack DL 6-5 / 265 Penn State
TBA Ganoway, Terrance RB 6-0 / 240 Baylor
TBA Glenn, Cordy OL 6-5 / 348 Georgia
TBA Harris, Josh DS 6-1 / 224 Auburn
TBA Howard, Jaye DL 6-3 / 303 Florida
TBA Iloka, George DB 6-3 / 216 Boise State
TBA Ingram, Melvin DL 6-2 / 276 South Carolina
TBA Jones, Ben OL 6-3 / 316 Georgia
TBA Lynn, D'Anton DB 6-1 / 210 Penn State
TBA Martin, Doug RB 5-9 / 215 Boise State
TBA McCants, Matt OL 6-7 / 295 UAB
TBA Moore, Kellen QB 6-0 / 191 Boise State
TBA Mosley, Brandon OL 6-6 / 310 Auburn
TBA Rainey, Chris RB 5-9 / 174 Florida
TBA Still, Devon DL 6-5 / 305 Penn State
TBA Troutman, Johnnie OL 6-4 / 323 Penn State
TBA Winn, Billy DL 6-4 / 295 Boise State
TBA Wright, Kendall WR 5-10 / 190 Baylor


A lot of peope are high on this Mccants OT from UAB havent seen him play Right away i see Vick Ballard whos one of <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most underrated RB"s in the draft and Jaye Howard who i like in the rd 4-5ish area as a penetrating speed DT Also i've had Phillip Blake as a late RD sleeper and i've seen hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">move up a bit in prospect rankings and a guy i want to see </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more of is Brandon </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mosely OT AUBURN a bit </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more

Theres obviously guys i love overall but those are so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me sleepers or guys i want to see a bit </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more of
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TheEnigma
01-08-2012, 11:01 PM
Pretty sure I'm already correct but the lowest we could possibly draft now is at the #26th spot, right? That's obviously assuming we would lose to GB and Denver loses too. Denver would be in front of us because we have the better record. Kind of excited to see where we might go in that area of the draft in the 1st round.

heavyhitter
01-09-2012, 12:24 AM
Heres a little Scouting Report fro<span class="echo-item-text">m Walt football on </span><span class="echo-item-text">mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</span><font size="4"><table border="0" width="95%"><tbody><tr><td width="25%"><div align="center"> http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/WMercilus.jpg </div></td>
<td width="70%"><div align="left"> <font color="navy" size="5"> Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265

Defensive End

</font> <font color="navy" size="5">Illinois </font> </div></td>

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<font size="3"> By Charlie Campbell </font>



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</font>

<div class="article">

Strengths:

Raw speed to turn the edge

Agility to sink his hips/shoulder

Strength

Repertoire of moves

Active hands

Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run

Always looking to force fumbles

Quick get off

Shedding blocks when pass rushing

Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards

Extremely athletic











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Weaknesses:


One-year wonder

Lacks complete body of work in college

Quality of tackles he faced







Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
part of the game.



Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
backfield to disrupt running plays.



The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
for a loss.







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Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

</div><font size="2">Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous. </font>
Why is it ridiculous? Hes not saying hes gonna be JPP but hes saying he is a good co<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mparison of where Whitney could be if everything works out Hes also co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mparing hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m to JPP because like JPP Whitney is a one yr wonder who ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me outta nowhere and will likely fly up draft boards as the draft approaches Hes a sensational prospect and don't fall for Whitney being what hes talked about now because trust </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me when the draft is here <font size="4">Whitney will be going in the pick 15-23ish of the 1st round</font>
</span><font size="2">IDK Sportzfan, I haven't watched enough on him so I really can't speak but just by reading all different kinds of scouting reports he seems like a classic "boom or bust" type of guy. Like I said, I keep up w/ the ACC &amp; SEC guys down here in Florida so I don't know enough to pass judgement on the guy. Do you really want to take that risk in the 1st round w/ Mercilus? If he's projected to go somewhere in the 15-23 overall range, then that makes him a bargain for the Giants, right? Check out this article Rob Rang wrote up on Mercilus. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...t-firstrounder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/16720135/nfl-draft-notebook-despite-numbers-illinis-mercilus-not-firstrounder)</font>

Spizi
01-09-2012, 02:20 AM
I was looking at Sideline Scouting's newest mock and the have Quinton Coples still available when we pick. It got me thinking... could Coples add 20-25 lbs and play 3-Tech DT?? I think he could add the weight and still keep most of his athleticism which would be scary.

bLuereverie
01-09-2012, 07:47 AM
<font size="2">IDK Sportzfan, I haven't watched enough on him so I really can't speak but just by reading all different kinds of scouting reports he seems like a classic "boom or bust" type of guy. Like I said, I keep up w/ the ACC & SEC guys down here in Florida so I don't know enough to pass judgement on the guy.* Do you really want to take that risk in the 1st round w/ Mercilus? If he's projected to go somewhere in the 15-23 overall range, then that makes him a bargain for the Giants, right? Check out this article Rob Rang wrote up on Mercilus. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...t-firstrounder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/16720135/nfl-draft-notebook-despite-numbers-illinis-mercilus-not-firstrounder)</font>



He plays hard through the whistle and even when effectively contained for several seconds, he persevered to make impact plays in 2011. An aggressive defensive scheme helped bloat Mercilus' stat line.

Illinois blitzed often, creating favorable matchups for edge pass rushers, and Mercilus often looped inside to attack slower interior linemen.

Scheme and hustle, not sheer athleticism, led to virtually every big play Mercilus made in regular-season games against Arizona State (Sept. 17), Northwestern (Oct. 1) and Penn State (Oct. 29) and UCLA last Saturday in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. Illinois recorded 103 tackles for loss this season, the fourth-highest current total in the country.

Sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?

I'm not one to have the utmost confidence to turn every raw mold of clay into a diamond, but it's incredibly hard to argue with our rich DE tradition. I don't think there is a greater place to learn technique. His stats may be a product of his system, but he seems to have the athleticism and motor everyone covets. He can very well flourish with the personnel in NY.

Plus his name is MERCILUS!

Redeyejedi
01-09-2012, 08:41 AM
<font size="2">IDK Sportzfan, I haven't watched enough on him so I really can't speak but just by reading all different kinds of scouting reports he seems like a classic "boom or bust" type of guy. Like I said, I keep up w/ the ACC & SEC guys down here in Florida so I don't know enough to pass judgement on the guy.* Do you really want to take that risk in the 1st round w/ Mercilus? If he's projected to go somewhere in the 15-23 overall range, then that makes him a bargain for the Giants, right? Check out this article Rob Rang wrote up on Mercilus. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...t-firstrounder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/16720135/nfl-draft-notebook-despite-numbers-illinis-mercilus-not-firstrounder)</font>



He plays hard through the whistle and even when effectively contained for several seconds, he persevered to make impact plays in 2011. An aggressive defensive scheme helped bloat Mercilus' stat line.

Illinois blitzed often, creating favorable matchups for edge pass rushers, and Mercilus often looped inside to attack slower interior linemen.

Scheme and hustle, not sheer athleticism, led to virtually every big play Mercilus made in regular-season games against Arizona State (Sept. 17), Northwestern (Oct. 1) and Penn State (Oct. 29) and UCLA last Saturday in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. Illinois recorded 103 tackles for loss this season, the fourth-highest current total in the country.

Sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?

I'm not one to have the utmost confidence to turn every raw mold of clay into a diamond, but it's incredibly hard to argue with our rich DE tradition. I don't think there is a greater place to learn technique. His stats may be a product of his system, but he seems to have the athleticism and motor everyone covets. He can very well flourish with the personnel in NY.

Plus his name is MERCILUS!

It says he doesnt have sheer athleticism.This is more of a negative scouting report then a positive one. I do like Mercilus though and think he is good value where the Giants would be picking.From now on only guys that keep coming are worth drafting and Mercilus does that.

bLuereverie
01-09-2012, 09:18 AM
I didn't say it was good. The argument though was that his stats were a product of the system around him, which I don't find as compelling of an argument by Rang especially when in application for the Giants specifically.

nycsportzfan
01-09-2012, 11:39 AM
Heres a little Scouting Report fro<span class="echo-item-text">m Walt football on </span><span class="echo-item-text">mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</span><span class="echo-item-text">mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</span><font size="4"><table width="95%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td width="25%"><div align="center"> http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/WMercilus.jpg </div></td>
<td width="70%"><div align="left"> <font size="5" color="navy"> Whitney Mercilus, 6-4/265

Defensive End

</font> <font size="5" color="navy">Illinois </font> </div></td>

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<font size="3">






<font size="5"> Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report </font>

<font size="3"> By Charlie Campbell </font>



</font></center><font size="3">
</font>

<div class="article">

Strengths:

Raw speed to turn the edge

Agility to sink his hips/shoulder

Strength

Repertoire of moves

Active hands

Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run

Always looking to force fumbles

Quick get off

Shedding blocks when pass rushing

Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards

Extremely athletic











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Weaknesses:


One-year wonder

Lacks complete body of work in college

Quality of tackles he faced







Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in
college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced
fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon
Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a
fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and
strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57
tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.



Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better
of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike
Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin
Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull
rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on
Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for
part of the game.



Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He
attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has
the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus
has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush
into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so
cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical
skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.



Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as
he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the
backfield to disrupt running plays.



The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup
sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010,
Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles
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Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of
similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who
come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They
also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more
production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has
turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.





Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range
as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon
Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the
question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up
to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.





NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit




What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic
ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him
up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right
defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.




The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge
rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need
to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets
past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some
young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for
Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they
could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost
took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril,
they might consider trading up to land Mercilus.

</div><font size="2">Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous. </font>
Why is it ridiculous? Hes not saying hes gonna be JPP but hes saying he is a good co<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mparison of where Whitney could be if everything works out Hes also co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mparing hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m to JPP because like JPP Whitney is a one yr wonder who ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me outta nowhere and will likely fly up draft boards as the draft approaches Hes a sensational prospect and don't fall for Whitney being what hes talked about now because trust </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me when the draft is here <font size="4">Whitney will be going in the pick 15-23ish of the 1st round</font>
</span><font size="2">IDK Sportzfan, I haven't watched enough on him so I really can't speak but just by reading all different kinds of scouting reports he seems like a classic "boom or bust" type of guy. Like I said, I keep up w/ the ACC &amp; SEC guys down here in Florida so I don't know enough to pass judgement on the guy. Do you really want to take that risk in the 1st round w/ Mercilus? If he's projected to go somewhere in the 15-23 overall range, then that makes him a bargain for the Giants, right? Check out this article Rob Rang wrote up on Mercilus. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...t-firstrounder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/16720135/nfl-draft-notebook-despite-numbers-illinis-mercilus-not-firstrounder)</font>
I seen the article that Rob Rang wrote. U ask if i really want to take that risk on Whitney in RD 1? Well i ask Do u really want to take that risk on Jason Pierre Paul in RD 1? A guy who had about half the production in his one big yr of college football then Whitney did? And i'd argue that the big 10 is better then the Big East as well especially when your talking about Offensive line<font size="2">man. The botto</font><font size="2">m line is Whitney will fly up draft boards as hes got perfect size and a sensational </font><font size="2">motor and unhearleded production in this past season(lead the country in sacks and forced fu</font><font size="2">mbles) What else would u want outta a prospect? Theres litteraly nothing else u could ask for outta a prospect then u do with Whitney outside of hes not done it for 4yrs but then again Hes only a JR so if he went back to ILL next yr and did it again he'd have 2yrs of great production which isn't unco</font><font size="2">m</font><font size="2">mon at all. Whitney is the real deal and i would be utterly shocked if so</font><font size="2">meone didn't ju</font><font size="2">mp on his upside and potential si</font><font size="2">milar to what the Giants did with JPP when he ca</font><font size="2">me out . Again Whitney destroyed JPP's production if u co</font><font size="2">mpare there 1big season of </font><font size="2">major college football
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01-09-2012, 11:54 AM
Heres a little Scouting Report fro<SPAN class=echo-item-text>m Walt football on </SPAN><SPAN class=echo-item-text>mercilus I only put it on here because of the player co</SPAN><SPAN class=echo-item-text>mparison of JPP I agree with Walt about Whitney being pretty athletic. Even if u don't think hes that athletic u gotta love Whitney as a prospect</SPAN><FONT size=4>
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<DIV class=article>Strengths:
<LI>Raw speed to turn the edge
<LI>Agility to sink his hips/shoulder
<LI>Strength
<LI>Repertoire of moves
<LI>Active hands
<LI>Has the strength to anchor and hold his ground vs. the run
<LI>Always looking to force fumbles
<LI>Quick get off
<LI>Shedding blocks when pass rushing
<LI>Ability to bull rush heavy tackles and guards
<LI>Extremely athletic



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Weaknesses:
<LI>One-year wonder
<LI>Lacks complete body of work in college
<LI>Quality of tackles he faced

Summary: Whitney Mercilus was the most productive pass-rusher in college football in 2011. He led the nation in sacks (16) and forced fumbles (9). It was a record-setting season as Mercilus topped Simeon Rice's school record for sacks in a year. Like Rice, Mercilus is a fabulous athlete. He has a special combination of size, speed and strength to go along with excellent technique. Mercilus also recorded 57 tackles and 22.5 tackles for a loss.

Entering the NFL, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher. He got the better of the best tackles he faced this season. Against Ohio State's Mike Adams, Mercilus recorded 1.5 sacks with a forced fumble. The Wisconsin Badgers' powerful offensive line couldn't contain Mercilus. He bull rushed through massive right tackle Josh Oglesby to get a sack-fumble on Russell Wilson. Mercilus also knocked out left tackle Ricky Wagner for part of the game.

Mercilus has a very impressive repertoire of pass rushing moves. He attacks with speed around the edge. As a counter to the speed, he has the strength to execute rip moves and shed offensive linemen. Mercilus has the raw power to get under offensive linemen's pads and bull rush into the pocket. That catches linemen by surprise as they are so cognizant of being ready for his speed rush. Beyond his great physical skill set, Mercilus is an advanced pass-rusher technically.

Mercilus holds up well in run defense. Linemen don't push him around, as he is strong at the point of attack. He also will burst into the backfield to disrupt running plays.

The big question regarding Mercilus is why didn't break into the lineup sooner and why didn't he produce more earlier. In 2009 and 2010, Mercilus combined to record 24 tackles with two sacks and 6.5 tackles for a loss.


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Player Comparison: Jason Pierre-Paul. There are a lot of similarities between Mercilus and JPP. Both are fantastic athletes who come to the NFL with a special combination of speed and strength. They also were one-year wonders at the college level. Mercilus had more production than JPP in their final college season, and the latter has turned into one of the best pass-rushers in the NFL.

Right now, it looks like Mercilus should get drafted in the same range as JPP. However, it is possible that Mercilus will be this year's Aldon Smith and surprise some by cracking the top 10. It is not out of the question for him to pass North Carolina's Quinton Coples in the lead up to the 2012 NFL Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php). JPP did that with Derrick Morgan in 2010. Projecting Mercilus to the pros, I see a player similar to Pierre-Paul.

NFL Matches: Jacksonville, Chicago, San Diego, New York Jets, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit

What team couldn't use another pass-rusher? Mercilus has the athletic ability to be a stand-up edge-rusher in 3-4 defenses, and that opens him up to consideration from a lot of teams. He looks like a natural right defensive end in a 4-3 defense who will challenge left tackles.

The Jaguars will have the first crack at Mercilus, and they need an edge rusher. Buffalo, San Diego and the Jets are all 3-4 defenses that need to find a player who can put heat on the quarterback. If Mercilus gets past all of those teams, he could end up in Chicago. They need some young talent for their defense. It would be a significant fall for Mercilus to get to the Browns' second first-round selection, but they could use an end to complete their young front four. The Lions almost took a defensive end last year, and if they don't re-sign Cliff Avril, they might consider trading up to land Mercilus. </LI></DIV><FONT size=2>Who is Charlie Campbell? Not a knock on Mercilus, but to compare him to JPP is just ridiculous. </FONT>
Why is it ridiculous? Hes not saying hes gonna be JPP but hes saying he is a good co<SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>mparison of where Whitney could be if everything works out Hes also co</SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>mparing hi</SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>m to JPP because like JPP Whitney is a one yr wonder who ca</SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>me outta nowhere and will likely fly up draft boards as the draft approaches Hes a sensational prospect and don't fall for Whitney being what hes talked about now because trust </SPAN><SPAN id=_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription>me when the draft is here <FONT size=4>Whitney will be going in the pick 15-23ish of the 1st round</FONT>
</SPAN><FONT size=2>IDK Sportzfan, I haven't watched enough on him so I really can't speak but just by reading all different kinds of scouting reports he seems like a classic "boom or bust" type of guy. Like I said, I keep up w/ the ACC &amp; SEC guys down here in Florida so I don't know enough to pass judgement on the guy. Do you really want to take that risk in the 1st round w/ Mercilus? If he's projected to go somewhere in the 15-23 overall range, then that makes him a bargain for the Giants, right? Check out this article Rob Rang wrote up on Mercilus. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/s...t-firstrounder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/16720135/nfl-draft-notebook-despite-numbers-illinis-mercilus-not-firstrounder)</FONT>
I seen the article that Rob Rang wrote. U ask if i really want to take that risk on Whitney in RD 1? Well i ask Do u really want to take that risk on Jason Pierre Paul in RD 1? A guy who had about half the production in his one big yr of college football then Whitney did? And i'd argue that the big 10 is better then the Big East as well especially when your talking about Offensive line<FONT size=2>man. The botto</FONT><FONT size=2>m line is Whitney will fly up draft boards as hes got perfect size and a sensational </FONT><FONT size=2>motor and unhearleded production in this past season(lead the country in sacks and forced fu</FONT><FONT size=2>mbles) What else would u want outta a prospect? Theres litteraly nothing else u could ask for outta a prospect then u do with Whitney outside of hes not done it for 4yrs but then again Hes only a JR so if he went back to ILL next yr and did it again he'd have 2yrs of great production which isn't unco</FONT><FONT size=2>m</FONT><FONT size=2>mon at all. Whitney is the real deal and i would be utterly shocked if so</FONT><FONT size=2>meone didn't ju</FONT><FONT size=2>mp on his upside and potential si</FONT><FONT size=2>milar to what the Giants did with JPP when he ca</FONT><FONT size=2>me out . Again Whitney destroyed JPP's production if u co</FONT><FONT size=2>mpare there 1big season of </FONT><FONT size=2>major college football
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What Rang is saying is How Production is obtained is more important then the actual production itself. Sacks can be misleading at times because of a scheme. Say if all of a guys sacks come against TE's, RB's, failed Blitz pick ups, Coverage sacksthe numbers can look better then what the actual player is.Thats not the case with Mercilus im just saying production can be skewed. The FF thing I dont know how u can skew that.Thats the thing that impresses me the most is the turnovers forced.</P>

nycsportzfan
01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
Ya your right about sacks and production being skewed at ti<font size="2">mes but like u said its not the case with Whitney so thats pretty </font><font size="2">much pointless. Don't u agree that Whitney has the best package for a 4/3 end in this draft? I would rather have Whitney and his relentless </font><font size="2">motor then i would watching Quentin Coples dissapear for weeks at a ti</font><font size="2">me. I a</font><font size="2">m a huge Whitney fan and its who i want our Giants to get in this yrs draft. I'd then trade OSI for a 3rd round pick(i think his production last ga</font><font size="2">me of season and into this playoff run will help his trade stock again). But like i said before i don't think whitney will be there when we pick


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nycsportzfan
01-09-2012, 02:02 PM
Heres this weeks draft as our season continues to roll along after a huge WIN against the Falcons in first round of NFL playoffs. Again i will do these untill our season ends and then one <font size="2">more before stopping for quite awhile


1. Dwayne Allen TE Cle</font><font size="2">mson- Sticking with Allen here because he offers </font><font size="2">most bang for our buck in </font><font size="2">my </font><font size="2">mind as far as thinking about what i think the 1st round will look like at this point. Ballard has looked less like the player he did early on this season and i think he'd be perfect as a 2nd TE on a tea</font><font size="2">m. Allen is a special talent and the </font><font size="2">most co</font><font size="2">mplete TE in this draft.

2. </font><font size="2">markelle </font><font size="2">martin s ok st- I'</font><font size="2">m going with the hard hitting speedy safety in RD 2 becuase i'</font><font size="2">m not a huge Antrel Rolle fan and regardless we need depth there with chad jones not back yet and KP with the creeky knees. </font><font size="2">markelle is a guy i see as a inti</font><font size="2">midator in the NFL and a a good "all around" safey who can </font><font size="2">make plays on the ball despite the f</font><font size="2">act he didn't do that all that </font><font size="2">much this season(still had a very nice season!)

3.</font><font size="2">micael brewster c Ohio St- I don't know if Brewsters stock will slide this far but i think its possible. If it does and were on the clock with Brewster still there its a no brainer in </font><font size="2">my opinion. Yesterdays first half showed how inconsistent our interior blocking can be and they've been like that all yr. David Baas has been a co</font><font size="2">mplete bust so far in </font><font size="2">my opinion and a upgrade is a </font><font size="2">must with the rugged way the giants run to set up play action. Brewster is a good all around C with good size and despite a few bad ga</font><font size="2">mes this yr has had a very good career in the big 10. I like BIG 10 Line</font><font size="2">man and i always have

4. Terrance Ganaway RB Baylor- I like the thu</font><font size="2">mper fro</font><font size="2">m baylor who kinda re</font><font size="2">minds </font><font size="2">me of steven jackson as far as running style. I think Ganaway could be a steal in this draft and perfect back for us to throw in a duo or trio</font>. Vick Ballard is another guy i considered here

5. Ca<font size="2">meron Chis</font><font size="2">m</font> cb <font size="2">maryland- a underrated player on a bad tea</font><font size="2">m. Chis</font><font size="2">m has solid size and good speed and would be a </font><font size="2">much higher pick if he was on say Alaba</font><font size="2">ma

6. Greg Childs wr Ark- As i said the other day after ARK played K-STATE that i thought Childs looked healthy finally and despite not having a truly </font><font size="2">monster ga</font><font size="2">me looked like the CHilds we thought we'd see this past season. When healthy Childs is a dangerous sure handed big target WR . If we lose </font><font size="2">mario in the offseason I'd be happy to take a shot on Childs for depth and hopefully </font><font size="2">more down the line</font>

7. De<font size="2">mario Davis LB Arkansas St- The leader of what was a solid defense for </font><font size="2">most of the season Davis is a good late round draft pick trying to hit a HR. Davis has been on of the best Defnders in the Sun Belt his entire career and can </font><font size="2">make plays rushing the passer or playing the run who occasionaly co</font><font size="2">mes up with a pick</font>
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lawl
01-09-2012, 02:09 PM
Where's zach brown going to get drafted? We need another athletic linebacker.

This draft is going to be a very unique one for us.

Kase-1
01-09-2012, 02:38 PM
Hey guys who are some players to look at tonight in the BCS championship??

Spizi
01-09-2012, 03:01 PM
Hey guys who are some players to look at tonight in the BCS championship??




Basically every player haha both teams are loaded with talent.

RBs- Trent Richardson
LBs- Dont'a Hightower, Courtney Upshaw
DBs- Morris Claiborne, Dre Kirkpatrick, Mark Barron

Kase-1
01-09-2012, 03:09 PM
Hey guys who are some players to look at tonight in the BCS championship??




Basically every player haha both teams are loaded with talent.

RBs- Trent Richardson
LBs- Dont'a Hightower, Courtney Upshaw
DBs- Morris Claiborne, Dre Kirkpatrick, Mark BarronI thought that just about every starter on both teams is 1st-3rd round talent

bLuereverie
01-09-2012, 03:35 PM
*Ya* your right about sacks and production being skewed at ti<font size="2">mes but like u said its not the case with Whitney** so thats pretty </font><font size="2">much pointless.** Don't u agree that Whitney has the best package for a 4/3 end in this draft?* I* would rather have Whitney and his relentless </font><font size="2">motor** then i would watching Quentin Coples dissapear for weeks at a ti</font><font size="2">me.* I a</font><font size="2">m a huge Whitney fan and its who i want our Giants to get in this yrs draft.* I'd then trade OSI for a 3rd round pick(i think his production last ga</font><font size="2">me of season and into this playoff run will help his trade stock again).** But like i said before** i don't think whitney will be there when we pick


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If he gets drafted by JR, you have to do one thing for us. Stop calling him Whitney and start referring to him as Mercilus only.

Spizi
01-09-2012, 08:03 PM
Where's zach brown going to get drafted? We need another athletic linebacker.

This draft is going to be a very unique one for us.

We don't need an athletic LB, we need a good LB. Brown can't tackle and is just too small. We might as well put KP at LB if we want someone with athleticism because that's what you're getting with Brown. A LB in a safety's body.

nycsportzfan
01-09-2012, 08:19 PM
Hey guys who are some players to look at tonight in the BCS championship??




Basically every player haha both teams are loaded with talent.

RBs- Trent Richardson
LBs- Dont'a Hightower, Courtney Upshaw
DBs- Morris Claiborne, Dre Kirkpatrick, Mark BarronI thought that just about every starter on both teams is 1st-3rd round talent
ya U got Josh Chapman DT Bama Reuben Randle WR LSU marquis maze WR Bama William Vlachos C Bama on top of all the other guys mentioned in above post Plus another 5or 6 guys i'm sure i'm not mentioned

nycsportzfan
01-09-2012, 08:21 PM
Ya your right about sacks and production being skewed at ti<font size="2">mes but like u said its not the case with Whitney so thats pretty </font><font size="2">much pointless. Don't u agree that Whitney has the best package for a 4/3 end in this draft? I would rather have Whitney and his relentless </font><font size="2">motor then i would watching Quentin Coples dissapear for weeks at a ti</font><font size="2">me. I a</font><font size="2">m a huge Whitney fan and its who i want our Giants to get in this yrs draft. I'd then trade OSI for a 3rd round pick(i think his production last ga</font><font size="2">me of season and into this playoff run will help his trade stock again). But like i said before i don't think whitney will be there when we pick


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If he gets drafted by JR, you have to do one thing for us. Stop calling him Whitney and start referring to him as Mercilus only. I only call him whitney because my " m" button on my computer dosen't work lol So by writing Whitney i don't have to copy and paste a "m" everytime lol

heavyhitter
01-09-2012, 08:29 PM
<font size="2">Who do you guys have winning this BCS title game tonight between LSU and Alabama? Should be a hell of a battle, love both of these defenses. So much NFL talent is on the field tonight.</font>

heavyhitter
01-09-2012, 08:52 PM
<font size="2">FSU CB Xavier Rhodes will not declare for the NFL Draft and be back at FSU for his Junior year.</font>
<span class="tl">Xavier Rhodes won't enter NFL draft (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=xavier%20rhodes%20news&amp;source=web &amp;cd=11&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CFsQqQIwCg&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fespn .go.com%2Fcollege-football%2Fstory%2F_%2Fid%2F7444071%2Fxavier-rhodes-florida-state-seminoles-enter-draft-returning-2012&amp;ei=N4sLT_-tHIfo0QHVy4yJBg&amp;usg=AFQjCNHbYG_y_ut5HVbUiNVH12dhLC c0Kg&amp;cad=rja)</span>
<div class="gl" style="padding-top:2px"><cite>ESPN</cite> - <span class="f">17 minutes ago</span></div>

Redeyejedi
01-09-2012, 09:24 PM
Casey Hayward vs Arkansas 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyANTnwBEI)</P>


6 passed defended in this game.Great battle against Jarius Wright</P>

bLuereverie
01-09-2012, 10:29 PM
Where's zach brown going to get drafted? We need another athletic linebacker.

This draft is going to be a very unique one for us.

We don't need an athletic LB, we need a good LB. Brown can't tackle and is just too small. We might as well put KP at LB if we want someone with athleticism because that's what you're getting with Brown. A LB in a safety's body.

Zach Brown could potentially replace Michael Boley, but I think weakside is the least of the LB worries in the near future.

If Kiwi leaves after next year, there is no established replacement in Sintim or Tracy unless they resign Goff and move him over.

Seems like we have plenty of depth at MLB to develop but none ready to take the reins.

lawl
01-09-2012, 11:04 PM
Where's zach brown going to get drafted? We need another athletic linebacker.

This draft is going to be a very unique one for us.

We don't need an athletic LB, we need a good LB. Brown can't tackle and is just too small. We might as well put KP at LB if we want someone with athleticism because that's what you're getting with Brown. A LB in a safety's body.

Idk how tall he is but to match up with the top NFC teams you need a guy that can play Jimmy Graham and Finley. With grant most likely leaving having two linebackers for passing downs would be nice. So in nickel we'd have boley brown kp rolle prince TT and Webster on the field.

Spizi
01-09-2012, 11:09 PM
Where's zach brown going to get drafted? We need another athletic linebacker.

This draft is going to be a very unique one for us.

We don't need an athletic LB, we need a good LB. Brown can't tackle and is just too small. We might as well put KP at LB if we want someone with athleticism because that's what you're getting with Brown. A LB in a safety's body.

Idk how tall he is but to match up with the top NFC teams you need a guy that can play Jimmy Graham and Finley. With grant most likely leaving having two linebackers for passing downs would be nice. So in nickel we'd have boley brown kp rolle prince TT and Webster on the field.

Don't get me wrong I would love to have Brown on our team but not with our first round pick.

lawl
01-10-2012, 12:42 AM
Where's zach brown going to get drafted? We need another athletic linebacker.

This draft is going to be a very unique one for us.

We don't need an athletic LB, we need a good LB. Brown can't tackle and is just too small. We might as well put KP at LB if we want someone with athleticism because that's what you're getting with Brown. A LB in a safety's body.

Idk how tall he is but to match up with the top NFC teams you need a guy that can play Jimmy Graham and Finley. With grant most likely leaving having two linebackers for passing downs would be nice. So in nickel we'd have boley brown kp rolle prince TT and Webster on the field.

Don't get me wrong I would love to have Brown on our team but not with our first round pick.

Yea I don't like linebackers in the first, but from the looks of it, the more valuable positions are pretty ****ty this year.

Redeyejedi
01-10-2012, 11:12 PM
Shrine Bowl Roster

East

Quarterbacks

John Brantley, Florida

B.J. Coleman, Tennessee-Chattanooga

Austin Davis, Southern Miss

Running Backs

Davin Meggett, Maryland

Alfred Morris, Florida Atlantic

Tauren Poole, Tennessee

Bruce Figgins, Georgia (Fullback)

Wide Receivers

Tim Benford, Tennessee Tech

LaRon Byrd, Miami (Fl.)

Danny Coale, Virginia Tech

B.J. Cunningham, Michigan State

T.J. Graham, North Carolina State

Kevin Hardy, The Citadel

Lance Lewis, East Carolina

Thomas Mayo, Cal (PA)

Tight Ends

Chase Ford, Miami (Fl.)

Emmanuel Igwenagu, UMass

Evan Rodriguez, Temple

Tackles

Jeff Adams, Columbia

Lamar Holmes, Southern Miss

Joe Long, Wayne State

Bradley Sowell, Mississippi

Guards

Derek Dennis, Temple

Rishaw Johnson, Cal (PA)

Jeremiah Warren, South Florida

Desmond Wynn, Rutgers

Center

Tyler Horn, Miami (Fl.)

Quentin Saulsberry, Mississippi State

Defensive Ends

Julian Miller, West Virginia

Jabaree Tuani, Navy

DeAngelo Tyson, Georgia

Kyle Wilber, Wake Forest

Defensive Tackles

Matt Conrath, Virginia

Akiem Hicks, Regina (Ca.)

Nick Jean-Baptiste, Baylor

Micanor Regis, Miami (Fl.)

Linebackers

Steven Erzinger, Army

Naji Goode, West Virginia

Max Gruder, Pittsburgh

Joshua Linam, Central Florida

Brandon Lindsey, Pittsburgh

Shawn Loiseau, Merrimack College

Nick Sukay, Penn State

Cornerbacks

Justin Bethel, Presbyterian College

R.J. Blanton, Notre Dame

Charles Brown, North Carolina

Emanuel Davis, East Carolina

Gary Gray, Notre Dame

Micah Pellerin, Hampton

Safeties

Matt Daniels, Duke

Tysyn Hartman, Kansas State

Christian Thompson, South Carolina State

Jerrell Young, South Florida

Kicker

Blair Walsh, Georgia

Punter

Shawn Powell, Florida State



West

Quarterbacks

Tyler Hansen, Colorado

Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois

Ryan Lindley, San Diego State

Running Backs

Brandon Bolden, Mississippi

Lennon Creer, Louisiana Tech

Marc Tyler, USC

Cody Johnson, Texas (Fullback)

Wide Receivers

Greg Childs, Arkansas

Junior Hemingway, Michigan

Dale Moss, South Dakota State

Gerrell Robinson, Arizona State

Tyler Shoemaker, Boise State

Jarius Wright, Arkansas

Devon Wylie, Fresno State

Tight Ends

George Bryan, North Carolina State

Cory Harkey, UCLA

Kevin Koger, Michigan

David Paulson, Oregon

Tackles

Tom Compton, South Dakota

Marcel Jones, Nebraska

Ryan Miller, Colorado

Al Netter, Northwestern

Matt Reynolds, BYU

Guards

Brandon Brooks, Miami (Fl.)

Ben Heenan, Saskatchewan (Ca.)

Josh LeRibeus, SMU

Markus Zusevics, Iowa

Centers

Moe Petrus, UConn

David Snow, Texas

Defensive Ends

Tyrone Crawford, Boise State

Justin Francis, Rutgers

Kentrell Lockett, Mississippi

Arnaud Gascon-Nadon, Laval University (Ca.)

Defensive Tackles

Dominique Hamilton, Missouri

DaJohn Harris, USC

Vaughn Meatoga, Hawaii

Kaniela Tuipulotu, Hawaii

Linebackers

Miles Burris, San Diego State

Tank Carder, TCU

Jerry Franklin, Arkansas

Steven Johnson, Kansas

Josh Kaddu, Oregon

Brandon Marshall, Nevada

Cornerbacks

Chris Greenwood, Albion College

Brandon Hardin, Oregon State

Rodney McLeod, Virginia

Shaun Prater, Iowa

Keith Tandy, West Virginia

Trevin Wade, Arizona

Safeties

Austin Cassidy, Nebraska

Blake Gideon, Texas

Aaron Henry, Wisconsin

Duke Ihenaho, San Jose State

Kicker

Greg Zuerlein, Missouri

Punter

Bryan Anger, Cal

nycsportzfan
01-10-2012, 11:30 PM
Shrine Bowl Roster

East

Quarterbacks

John Brantley, Florida

B.J. Coleman, Tennessee-Chattanooga

Austin Davis, Southern Miss

Running Backs

Davin Meggett, Maryland

Alfred Morris, Florida Atlantic

Tauren Poole, Tennessee

Bruce Figgins, Georgia (Fullback)

Wide Receivers

Tim Benford, Tennessee Tech

LaRon Byrd, Miami (Fl.)

Danny Coale, Virginia Tech

B.J. Cunningham, Michigan State

T.J. Graham, North Carolina State

Kevin Hardy, The Citadel

Lance Lewis, East Carolina

Thomas Mayo, Cal (PA)

Tight Ends

Chase Ford, Miami (Fl.)

Emmanuel Igwenagu, UMass

Evan Rodriguez, Temple

Tackles

Jeff Adams, Columbia

Lamar Holmes, Southern Miss

Joe Long, Wayne State

Bradley Sowell, Mississippi

Guards

Derek Dennis, Temple

Rishaw Johnson, Cal (PA)

Jeremiah Warren, South Florida

Desmond Wynn, Rutgers

Center

Tyler Horn, Miami (Fl.)

Quentin Saulsberry, Mississippi State

Defensive Ends

Julian Miller, West Virginia

Jabaree Tuani, Navy

DeAngelo Tyson, Georgia

Kyle Wilber, Wake Forest

Defensive Tackles

Matt Conrath, Virginia

Akiem Hicks, Regina (Ca.)

Nick Jean-Baptiste, Baylor

Micanor Regis, Miami (Fl.)

Linebackers

Steven Erzinger, Army

Naji Goode, West Virginia

Max Gruder, Pittsburgh

Joshua Linam, Central Florida

Brandon Lindsey, Pittsburgh

Shawn Loiseau, Merrimack College

Nick Sukay, Penn State

Cornerbacks

Justin Bethel, Presbyterian College

R.J. Blanton, Notre Dame

Charles Brown, North Carolina

Emanuel Davis, East Carolina

Gary Gray, Notre Dame

Micah Pellerin, Hampton

Safeties

Matt Daniels, Duke

Tysyn Hartman, Kansas State

Christian Thompson, South Carolina State

Jerrell Young, South Florida

Kicker

Blair Walsh, Georgia

Punter

Shawn Powell, Florida State



West

Quarterbacks

Tyler Hansen, Colorado

Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois

Ryan Lindley, San Diego State

Running Backs

Brandon Bolden, Mississippi

Lennon Creer, Louisiana Tech

Marc Tyler, USC

Cody Johnson, Texas (Fullback)

Wide Receivers

Greg Childs, Arkansas

Junior Hemingway, Michigan

Dale Moss, South Dakota State

Gerrell Robinson, Arizona State

Tyler Shoemaker, Boise State

Jarius Wright, Arkansas

Devon Wylie, Fresno State

Tight Ends

George Bryan, North Carolina State

Cory Harkey, UCLA

Kevin Koger, Michigan

David Paulson, Oregon

Tackles

Tom Compton, South Dakota

Marcel Jones, Nebraska

Ryan Miller, Colorado

Al Netter, Northwestern

Matt Reynolds, BYU

Guards

Brandon Brooks, Miami (Fl.)

Ben Heenan, Saskatchewan (Ca.)

Josh LeRibeus, SMU

Markus Zusevics, Iowa

Centers

Moe Petrus, UConn

David Snow, Texas

Defensive Ends

Tyrone Crawford, Boise State

Justin Francis, Rutgers

Kentrell Lockett, Mississippi

Arnaud Gascon-Nadon, Laval University (Ca.)

Defensive Tackles

Dominique Hamilton, Missouri

DaJohn Harris, USC

Vaughn Meatoga, Hawaii

Kaniela Tuipulotu, Hawaii

Linebackers

Miles Burris, San Diego State

Tank Carder, TCU

Jerry Franklin, Arkansas

Steven Johnson, Kansas

Josh Kaddu, Oregon

Brandon Marshall, Nevada

Cornerbacks

Chris Greenwood, Albion College

Brandon Hardin, Oregon State

Rodney McLeod, Virginia

Shaun Prater, Iowa

Keith Tandy, West Virginia

Trevin Wade, Arizona

Safeties

Austin Cassidy, Nebraska

Blake Gideon, Texas

Aaron Henry, Wisconsin

Duke Ihenaho, San Jose State

Kicker

Greg Zuerlein, Missouri

Punter

Bryan Anger, Cal That WEST roster looks like the better roster

lawl
01-11-2012, 03:46 AM
Josh linam. Interesting.

Redeyejedi
01-11-2012, 09:02 AM
Shrine Bowl Roster

East

Quarterbacks

John Brantley, Florida

B.J. Coleman, Tennessee-Chattanooga

Austin Davis, Southern Miss

Running Backs

Davin Meggett, Maryland

Alfred Morris, Florida Atlantic

Tauren Poole, Tennessee

Bruce Figgins, Georgia (Fullback)

Wide Receivers

Tim Benford, Tennessee Tech

LaRon Byrd, Miami (Fl.)

Danny Coale, Virginia Tech

B.J. Cunningham, Michigan State

T.J. Graham, North Carolina State

Kevin Hardy, The Citadel

Lance Lewis, East Carolina

Thomas Mayo, Cal (PA)

Tight Ends

Chase Ford, Miami (Fl.)

Emmanuel Igwenagu, UMass

Evan Rodriguez, Temple

Tackles

Jeff Adams, Columbia

Lamar Holmes, Southern Miss

Joe Long, Wayne State

Bradley Sowell, Mississippi

Guards

Derek Dennis, Temple

Rishaw Johnson, Cal (PA)

Jeremiah Warren, South Florida

Desmond Wynn, Rutgers

Center

Tyler Horn, Miami (Fl.)

Quentin Saulsberry, Mississippi State

Defensive Ends

Julian Miller, West Virginia

Jabaree Tuani, Navy

DeAngelo Tyson, Georgia

Kyle Wilber, Wake Forest

Defensive Tackles

Matt Conrath, Virginia

Akiem Hicks, Regina (Ca.)

Nick Jean-Baptiste, Baylor

Micanor Regis, Miami (Fl.)

Linebackers

Steven Erzinger, Army

Naji Goode, West Virginia

Max Gruder, Pittsburgh

Joshua Linam, Central Florida

Brandon Lindsey, Pittsburgh

Shawn Loiseau, Merrimack College

Nick Sukay, Penn State

Cornerbacks

Justin Bethel, Presbyterian College

R.J. Blanton, Notre Dame

Charles Brown, North Carolina

Emanuel Davis, East Carolina

Gary Gray, Notre Dame

Micah Pellerin, Hampton

Safeties

Matt Daniels, Duke

Tysyn Hartman, Kansas State

Christian Thompson, South Carolina State

Jerrell Young, South Florida

Kicker

Blair Walsh, Georgia

Punter

Shawn Powell, Florida State



West

Quarterbacks

Tyler Hansen, Colorado

Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois

Ryan Lindley, San Diego State

Running Backs

Brandon Bolden, Mississippi

Lennon Creer, Louisiana Tech

Marc Tyler, USC

Cody Johnson, Texas (Fullback)

Wide Receivers

Greg Childs, Arkansas

Junior Hemingway, Michigan

Dale Moss, South Dakota State

Gerrell Robinson, Arizona State

Tyler Shoemaker, Boise State

Jarius Wright, Arkansas

Devon Wylie, Fresno State

Tight Ends

George Bryan, North Carolina State

Cory Harkey, UCLA

Kevin Koger, Michigan

David Paulson, Oregon

Tackles

Tom Compton, South Dakota

Marcel Jones, Nebraska

Ryan Miller, Colorado

Al Netter, Northwestern

Matt Reynolds, BYU

Guards

Brandon Brooks, Miami (Fl.)

Ben Heenan, Saskatchewan (Ca.)

Josh LeRibeus, SMU

Markus Zusevics, Iowa

Centers

Moe Petrus, UConn

David Snow, Texas

Defensive Ends

Tyrone Crawford, Boise State

Justin Francis, Rutgers

Kentrell Lockett, Mississippi

Arnaud Gascon-Nadon, Laval University (Ca.)

Defensive Tackles

Dominique Hamilton, Missouri

DaJohn Harris, USC

Vaughn Meatoga, Hawaii

Kaniela Tuipulotu, Hawaii

Linebackers

Miles Burris, San Diego State

Tank Carder, TCU

Jerry Franklin, Arkansas

Steven Johnson, Kansas

Josh Kaddu, Oregon

Brandon Marshall, Nevada

Cornerbacks

Chris Greenwood, Albion College

Brandon Hardin, Oregon State

Rodney McLeod, Virginia

Shaun Prater, Iowa

Keith Tandy, West Virginia

Trevin Wade, Arizona

Safeties

Austin Cassidy, Nebraska

Blake Gideon, Texas

Aaron Henry, Wisconsin

Duke Ihenaho, San Jose State

Kicker

Greg Zuerlein, Missouri

Punter

Bryan Anger, Cal That WEST roster looks* like the better roster
I thought so as well we shall see

nycsportzfan
01-11-2012, 07:15 PM
Orson Charles TE Georgia is entering the draft

Redeyejedi
01-12-2012, 03:01 PM
Charles is a real good receiver but after Travis Beckum dont see the Giants taking that kind of guy.

heavyhitter
01-12-2012, 03:17 PM
<h2>Demps chooses different path, will go pro in track (http://www.onlygators.com/01/12/2012/demps-chooses-different-path-will-go-pro-in-track/)</h2>

heavyhitter
01-12-2012, 03:31 PM
<font size="3"><span class="headline">Trent Richardson, Dre Kirkpatrick, Dont'a Hightower entering NFL draft</span></font><span class="time"> </span> (http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2012-01-12/trent-richardson-dre-kirkpatrick-donta-hightower-going-pro-nfl-draft)

heavyhitter
01-12-2012, 03:33 PM
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heavyhitter
01-12-2012, 03:36 PM
<font size="4"><span class="tl">AP Sources: LSU CB Claiborne turning pro (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=morris%20claiborne%20turns%20pro&amp; source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CB4QqQIwAA&amp;url=http%3A% 2F%2Fwashingtonexaminer.com%2Fsports%2Fcollege%2F2 012%2F01%2Fap-sources-lsu-cb-claiborne-turning-pro%2F2089211&amp;ei=HzYPT8f7HIrv0gGH6dmpAw&amp;usg=AFQjCN HAJlKPtORLiPVghLN1943fDnJVnA&amp;cad=rja)</span></font>

Redeyejedi
01-12-2012, 08:37 PM
<font size="4"><span class="tl">AP Sources: LSU CB Claiborne turning pro (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=morris%20claiborne%20turns%20pro&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwashingtonexaminer.com%2Fsports%2 Fcollege%2F2012%2F01%2Fap-sources-lsu-cb-claiborne-turning-pro%2F2089211&ei=HzYPT8f7HIrv0gGH6dmpAw&usg=AFQjCNHAJlKPtORLiPVghLN1943fDnJVnA&cad=rja)</span></font>Brockers is as well. He isnt ready to come out. Weak lineman draft he probably got a first round grade. Dude is a freak 6'6" 290.Probably more of a 3-4 end though. I think he was better off staying for his game

myles2424
01-13-2012, 12:34 AM
Thouhts on Danny Trevathan? Anyone...

lawl
01-13-2012, 03:38 AM
<H2>Demps chooses different path, will go pro in track (http://www.onlygators.com/01/12/2012/demps-chooses-different-path-will-go-pro-in-track/)</H2>


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damn i wanted to see his 40 time.</P>

nycsportzfan
01-13-2012, 07:00 AM
Thouhts on Danny Trevathan? Anyone... I like him alot and see some young michael boley in him but as i said last yr when we drafted Jaquian Williams we may have gotten alot better player then where we drafted him simply because he came out with not much expierence and teams didn't have alot to go on with him but if u projected with him and assumed he played just as well if not better then he did his Jr season he could of gotten as high as a RD 2 pick.. So in theory we might of gotten sensational value by taking williams a yr early(and i love when reese does stuff like this!!) So what i'm getting at is we may just have our future stud starting Will LB all ready on board..

But all that said i would understand if we were to take a stab at another WLB in a early ish round as long as the value's there.. Trevathan is a nice looking prospect but i think we got just as good a prospect with Williams like 3rounds later then where Trevathan is gonna go.. That is where reese really specializes in his drafts(getting value) How much better is Trevathan gonna be then Williams? Chances are not much if at all.. Now if were talking Travis Lewis I could understand because Travis was a possible 1st round pick had he came out last yr and the potential for a super star WLB is there so i can see taking a chance on that in a early round despite having Williams on board but i don't feel the same way about Trevathan(all though if Trevathan is there in say RD 4 or 5 u gotta take em!)

nycsportzfan
01-13-2012, 07:03 AM
<font size="4"><span class="tl">AP Sources: LSU CB Claiborne turning pro (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=morris%20claiborne%20turns%20pro&amp; source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CB4QqQIwAA&amp;url=http%3A% 2F%2Fwashingtonexaminer.com%2Fsports%2Fcollege%2F2 012%2F01%2Fap-sources-lsu-cb-claiborne-turning-pro%2F2089211&amp;ei=HzYPT8f7HIrv0gGH6dmpAw&amp;usg=AFQjCN HAJlKPtORLiPVghLN1943fDnJVnA&amp;cad=rja)</span></font>Brockers is as well. He isnt ready to come out. Weak lineman draft he probably got a first round grade. Dude is a freak 6'6" 290.Probably more of a 3-4 end though. I think he was better off staying for his game Your Gm of the Giants and you got Devon Still/Brockers/and Fletcher Cox all still on the board in RD 1/Pick 26 Who u Taking? Thats tuff!

nycsportzfan
01-13-2012, 07:06 AM
God there are some freaking stud DT's in this draft! With Brockers and Cox both coming into this draft and added to Devon Still/ Derek Wolfe/ Brandon Thompson/ Jerel Worthy/ Kendall Reyes/ marcus forston/ Jared Crick .. I bet u Jerry Reese is licking his chops!!!lol

nycsportzfan
01-13-2012, 07:14 AM
This yrs draft is gonna be so hard to perdict who the Giants are gonna take.. Obviously things will change as far as where prospects are perdicted to go with the All Star games and Combine still to come but judging from where these guys are kinda perdicted to go as of now its anyones guess who the Giants will take? You got DT with guys like Cox and Worthy and Still possibly being attractive to reese and then u got guys like mike adams and peter konz on the oline who could possibly be on the board and potential needs for us and of course with TT coming off injury and Ross up for FA'cy u could see guys like minnifeild j jenkins casey hayward possibly being there and the pick.. Then u got RB with jacobs probably done in NY and guys like Lamar miller possibly out there and with TE u could argue Dwayne Allen late in RD 1 is not a bad way to go.. So hard to perdict this season where the giants might go..

Redeyejedi
01-13-2012, 12:02 PM
* This yrs draft is gonna be so hard to perdict who the Giants are gonna take..*** Obviously things will change as far as where prospects are perdicted to go with the All Star games and Combine still to come** but judging from where these guys are kinda perdicted to go as of now*** its anyones guess who the Giants will take?** You got* DT* with guys like Cox and Worthy and Still possibly being attractive to reese and then u got* guys like mike adams and peter konz on the oline** who could possibly be on the board and potential needs for us*** and of course with TT coming off injury and Ross up for FA'cy*** u could see guys like minnifeild*** j jenkins** casey hayward possibly being there and the pick..* Then u got* RB with jacobs probably done in NY and guys like Lamar miller possibly out there** and* with TE*** u could argue Dwayne Allen late in RD 1 is not a bad way to go..* So hard to perdict this season where the giants might go..
This draft lacks elite players and Im all for trading completely out of the first round. I would love to trade are first this year for a 2nd this year and a first next year.I agree that Worthy and Cox could be guys the Giants target.

Did U check out the Hayward video I put up.Its him vs Arkansas. He battles Jarius Wright for in man for a lot of it. Wright beats him a couple times which is expected because Wrights a great receiver but Casey has 6 PD's in the game. I liked this video because to me Hayward is more of a zone corner but sticking with a player with the quickness Wright has in man coverage showed me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyANTnwBEI

Redeyejedi
01-13-2012, 07:22 PM
Im looking at some of these names declaring for the 2012 Draft and wondering who is giving them advice because they arent getting drafted.U dont declare early if your going to be an UDFA thats just stupid.Get your degree

Redeyejedi
01-13-2012, 07:23 PM
*God there are some freaking stud* DT's in this draft!* With Brockers and Cox both coming into this draft and added to* Devon Still/ Derek Wolfe/ Brandon Thompson/ Jerel Worthy/ Kendall Reyes/* marcus forston/ Jared Crick ..**** I bet u Jerry Reese is licking his chops!!!lol
Yeah I like some of the DT's. Wish I had more tape on Derek Wolfe but all the games I have are crap quality.

Redeyejedi
01-13-2012, 07:26 PM
TonyPauline Tony Pauline
Area scouts & sources tell me Kendall Wright/WR/Baylor ranks as the #1 wide out on #NFLDraft boards for a lot of teams: tfydraft.com

lawl
01-13-2012, 09:14 PM
TonyPauline Tony Pauline
Area scouts & sources tell me Kendall Wright/WR/Baylor ranks as the #1 wide out on #NFLDraft boards for a lot of teams: tfydraft.com

That's nuts.

Spizi
01-13-2012, 09:25 PM
* This yrs draft is gonna be so hard to perdict who the Giants are gonna take..*** Obviously things will change as far as where prospects are perdicted to go with the All Star games and Combine still to come** but judging from where these guys are kinda perdicted to go as of now*** its anyones guess who the Giants will take?** You got* DT* with guys like Cox and Worthy and Still possibly being attractive to reese and then u got* guys like mike adams and peter konz on the oline** who could possibly be on the board and potential needs for us*** and of course with TT coming off injury and Ross up for FA'cy*** u could see guys like minnifeild*** j jenkins** casey hayward possibly being there and the pick..* Then u got* RB with jacobs probably done in NY and guys like Lamar miller possibly out there** and* with TE*** u could argue Dwayne Allen late in RD 1 is not a bad way to go..* So hard to perdict this season where the giants might go..


Honestly I really like Allen too. Why not make one of our strengths (passing game) even stronger with a legit receiving threat at the TE position. I think he has the potential to be one of those top 5 TEs a la Jimmy Graham, Gonkowski, etc.

I feel like Worthy might drop and we could possibly get him in the 2nd round which would be great.

bLuereverie
01-13-2012, 09:43 PM
Did U check out the Hayward video I put up.Its him vs Arkansas. He battles Jarius Wright for in man for a lot of it. Wright beats him a couple times which is expected because Wrights a great receiver but Casey has 6 PD's in the game. I liked this video because to me Hayward is more of a zone corner but sticking with a player with the quickness Wright has in man coverage showed me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyANTnwBEI

I've seen vids of Hayward. He lacks speed, but he has tremendous ball skills. I'd take a look at him in the third round. Though I've seen some mocks with him as high in the late second.

nycsportzfan
01-14-2012, 08:19 AM
TonyPauline Tony Pauline
Area scouts &amp; sources tell me Kendall Wright/WR/Baylor ranks as the #1 wide out on #NFLDraft boards for a lot of teams: tfydraft.com Hes come along way since i named him as a player to watch in the opening game against TCU ey? lol

nycsportzfan
01-14-2012, 08:21 AM
Did U check out the Hayward video I put up.Its him vs Arkansas. He battles Jarius Wright for in man for a lot of it. Wright beats him a couple times which is expected because Wrights a great receiver but Casey has 6 PD's in the game. I liked this video because to me Hayward is more of a zone corner but sticking with a player with the quickness Wright has in man coverage showed me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyANTnwBEI

I've seen vids of Hayward. He lacks speed, but he has tremendous ball skills. I'd take a look at him in the third round. Though I've seen some mocks with him as high in the late second. His Speed is good enough and probably right around where Janoris Jenkins speed is and hes got better ball skills then Janoris and plays the run better then alot of the top tier CB's in this yrs draft.. Hayward is about as underrated as it gets in this yrs draft.. I find it hard to believe that he gets outta the first round and at very worst top part of RD 2.. Hes quite frankly just to good!

nycsportzfan
01-15-2012, 02:05 PM
Anyone know anything about small school standout G Amini Silatolu? Dudes got great size at 6ft 3in 324lbs and is said to be extremely athletic and nimble for his size.. Just curious becuase of our need for a beffy nimble G for the future..

Redeyejedi
01-16-2012, 10:51 AM
Did U check out the Hayward video I put up.Its him vs Arkansas. He battles Jarius Wright for in man for a lot of it. Wright beats him a couple times which is expected because Wrights a great receiver but Casey has 6 PD's in the game. I liked this video because to me Hayward is more of a zone corner but sticking with a player with the quickness Wright has in man coverage showed me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyANTnwBEI

I've seen vids of Hayward. He lacks speed, but he has tremendous ball skills. I'd take a look at him in the third round. Though I've seen some mocks with him as high in the late second.Maybe but Jarius Wright will run under a 4.4 and has elite quickness and he matched up with him fine in man coverage.

Redeyejedi
01-16-2012, 10:53 AM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
#Maryland RB Devin Meggett is as rocked up as they come, thick upper body, compact arms... 5081, 220 #NFLDRAFT #shrinegame


Im rooting for Meggett I hope he does well

Redeyejedi
01-16-2012, 01:50 PM
Shrine Bowl Weigh in</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWest-Shrine-Weighin-Results.html</P>


@WesBunting (https://twitter.com/#!/WesBunting)</P>


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http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/WB10.jpg</P>

nycsportzfan
01-16-2012, 05:43 PM
Did U check out the Hayward video I put up.Its him vs Arkansas. He battles Jarius Wright for in man for a lot of it. Wright beats him a couple times which is expected because Wrights a great receiver but Casey has 6 PD's in the game. I liked this video because to me Hayward is more of a zone corner but sticking with a player with the quickness Wright has in man coverage showed me a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nyANTnwBEI

I've seen vids of Hayward. He lacks speed, but he has tremendous ball skills. I'd take a look at him in the third round. Though I've seen some mocks with him as high in the late second.Maybe but Jarius Wright will run under a 4.4 and has elite quickness and he matched up with him fine in man coverage. Janoris Jenkins is similar to Casey Hayward in that they lack "elite" speed but are fine in man coverege because they have rock solid technique and instincts and ball skills.. The thing is that somehow Janoris is a 1st rd prospect and Hayward is talked about as a 3rd in some places.. It makes no sense!

nycsportzfan
01-16-2012, 05:51 PM
Shrine Bowl Weigh in</p>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWest-Shrine-Weighin-Results.html</p>


@WesBunting (https://twitter.com/#%21/WesBunting)</p>


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http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/WB10.jpg</p> Wow i thought matt reynolds would be a tad taller and in the 320's.. Reynolds seems like one of those Giant type draft picks

nycsportzfan
01-16-2012, 07:16 PM
I get to do at least 2more weekly mocks now that we beat the mighty packers in there house for a trip to the NFC Title Game! Sweet!!!!lol

Lets get to it shall we!


1. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Ballards play has fall off lately due to injury and probably a bit of him falling back to earth a bit after a surprising start to his season.. Ballard is worth holding on to and would make a great DUO with Dwayne Allen... Allen would be a monster with the WR's we got and Eli as the QB...

2. Bobby Wagner mlb Utah St- I wondered how he was not being looked at as a earlier round prospect when i started noticing him a bit earlier in the season but it seems hes finally caught on and most have em as a 2nd rounder/ Early 3rd.. With Goff's injury and being a FA its a good idea getting a talented high motor/tackling machine in there.. Wagner is a complete LB who could be on the field for 3downs if need be..

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- A perfect fit to replace Brandon Jacobs if we do as i think and hes not retained for the 2012 season.. Pierce is a rugged between the tackles runner who can kick it outside on occasion and bust big runs by breaking tackles and showing great balance.. Pierce was my Favorite back coming into this season but with the talent pool of backs hes fell just a tad in my personal rankings but is still up there enough to love what he offers as a late 3rd round RB..

4.George Iloka S Boise St- A very athletic and tall and rangy Safety who could be a steal in the RD 4 range.. Were a KP or Rolle injury away from having Sash starting and that is a uncertainty.. Iloka would give us Depth with the possiblity of more down the line.. Chad Jones is obviously still very much a unknown..

5. Eric Page WR Toledo- If we lose manningham we could use another WR to help with depth and challenge Jerrell Jerrnigan and the others who are here.. Page has great hands and is a versatile type WR who can do alot of diffrent things for you..

6. Derek Dennis G Temple- With Diehl likely in his last season with us afd Petrus having mixed results so far this pick makes sense and Dennis helped block for a terrific running team and has a big body and a few tools to offer a team..

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Another late rd lineman as in this mock i went in a diffrent direction so adding a couple interior lineman late trying to find a GEm is the strategy.. Gerhart is pretty good and i woulden't be surprised if he did as good as some early round C's in this draft

Raptor22
01-16-2012, 10:06 PM
I get to do at least 2more weekly mocks now that we beat the mighty packers in there house for a trip to the NFC Title Game! Sweet!!!!lol

Lets get to it shall we!


1. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Ballards play has fall off lately due to injury and probably a bit of him falling back to earth a bit after a surprising start to his season.. Ballard is worth holding on to and would make a great DUO with Dwayne Allen... Allen would be a monster with the WR's we got and Eli as the QB...

2. Bobby Wagner mlb Utah St- I wondered how he was not being looked at as a earlier round prospect when i started noticing him a bit earlier in the season but it seems hes finally caught on and most have em as a 2nd rounder/ Early 3rd.. With Goff's injury and being a FA its a good idea getting a talented high motor/tackling machine in there.. Wagner is a complete LB who could be on the field for 3downs if need be..

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- A perfect fit to replace Brandon Jacobs if we do as i think and hes not retained for the 2012 season.. Pierce is a rugged between the tackles runner who can kick it outside on occasion and bust big runs by breaking tackles and showing great balance.. Pierce was my Favorite back coming into this season but with the talent pool of backs hes fell just a tad in my personal rankings but is still up there enough to love what he offers as a late 3rd round RB..

4.George Iloka S Boise St- A very athletic and tall and rangy Safety who could be a steal in the RD 4 range.. Were a KP or Rolle injury away from having Sash starting and that is a uncertainty.. Iloka would give us Depth with the possiblity of more down the line.. Chad Jones is obviously still very much a unknown..

5. Eric Page WR Toledo- If we lose manningham we could use another WR to help with depth and challenge Jerrell Jerrnigan and the others who are here.. Page has great hands and is a versatile type WR who can do alot of diffrent things for you..

6. Derek Dennis G Temple- With Diehl likely in his last season with us afd Petrus having mixed results so far this pick makes sense and Dennis helped block for a terrific running team and has a big body and a few tools to offer a team..

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Another late rd lineman as in this mock i went in a diffrent direction so adding a couple interior lineman late trying to find a GEm is the strategy.. Gerhart is pretty good and i woulden't be surprised if he did as good as some early round C's in this draft


I approve of this mock...

The only downside I see, is that I don't know if Allen will be there at 32. I could realistically see Denver grabbing him if they decide to go through with Tebow as their starter next year. He may not have the chops to ever be a top-10 QB, but he also doesn't have much of a team around him. He (usually) makes good decisions and having a guy like Allen around would not only help out their running game, but make for a very nice safety blanket to keep their drives going.

If that happened how do you feel about Mark Barron (S, Alabama)? To my eyes, he's the prototypical Giants DB.

Also, do you have Doug Martin going ahead of our pick? I think he's my favorite RB right now. Great size, balance, hands, vision, and is a legit return threat. Definitely Ray Rice/MJD potential

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 06:55 AM
I get to do at least 2more weekly mocks now that we beat the mighty packers in there house for a trip to the NFC Title Game! Sweet!!!!lol

Lets get to it shall we!


1. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Ballards play has fall off lately due to injury and probably a bit of him falling back to earth a bit after a surprising start to his season.. Ballard is worth holding on to and would make a great DUO with Dwayne Allen... Allen would be a monster with the WR's we got and Eli as the QB...

2. Bobby Wagner mlb Utah St- I wondered how he was not being looked at as a earlier round prospect when i started noticing him a bit earlier in the season but it seems hes finally caught on and most have em as a 2nd rounder/ Early 3rd.. With Goff's injury and being a FA its a good idea getting a talented high motor/tackling machine in there.. Wagner is a complete LB who could be on the field for 3downs if need be..

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- A perfect fit to replace Brandon Jacobs if we do as i think and hes not retained for the 2012 season.. Pierce is a rugged between the tackles runner who can kick it outside on occasion and bust big runs by breaking tackles and showing great balance.. Pierce was my Favorite back coming into this season but with the talent pool of backs hes fell just a tad in my personal rankings but is still up there enough to love what he offers as a late 3rd round RB..

4.George Iloka S Boise St- A very athletic and tall and rangy Safety who could be a steal in the RD 4 range.. Were a KP or Rolle injury away from having Sash starting and that is a uncertainty.. Iloka would give us Depth with the possiblity of more down the line.. Chad Jones is obviously still very much a unknown..

5. Eric Page WR Toledo- If we lose manningham we could use another WR to help with depth and challenge Jerrell Jerrnigan and the others who are here.. Page has great hands and is a versatile type WR who can do alot of diffrent things for you..

6. Derek Dennis G Temple- With Diehl likely in his last season with us afd Petrus having mixed results so far this pick makes sense and Dennis helped block for a terrific running team and has a big body and a few tools to offer a team..

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Another late rd lineman as in this mock i went in a diffrent direction so adding a couple interior lineman late trying to find a GEm is the strategy.. Gerhart is pretty good and i woulden't be surprised if he did as good as some early round C's in this draft


I approve of this mock...

The only downside I see, is that I don't know if Allen will be there at 32. I could realistically see Denver grabbing him if they decide to go through with Tebow as their starter next year. He may not have the chops to ever be a top-10 QB, but he also doesn't have much of a team around him. He (usually) makes good decisions and having a guy like Allen around would not only help out their running game, but make for a very nice safety blanket to keep their drives going.

If that happened how do you feel about Mark Barron (S, Alabama)? To my eyes, he's the prototypical Giants DB.

Also, do you have Doug Martin going ahead of our pick? I think he's my favorite RB right now. Great size, balance, hands, vision, and is a legit return threat. Definitely Ray Rice/MJD potential
Ya Dwayne Allen could be gone but he also could be there.. I would not have much of a problem going with mark barron if he were there with one of the last few picks in RD 1.. I'd perfer to snag one of the DT's or CB's who are sorely undervalued at this point(guys like Fletcher Cox Devon Still Jerel Worthy Chase minnifield Casey Hayward Stephone Gilmore) are the guys i'd be hoping for if Allen isn't there.. I actually like markelle martin the best outta the saftey's this yr and for some reason hes shown as a late 2nd/ Early 3rd round pick on the net so if we were thinking safety in a early RD i would just wait till our 2nd rounder and hope markelle was there instead of drafting Barron in rD 1.. Again i do like Barron though...


As far as Doug martin i do think he'll be gone either end of RD 2 or first half of RD 3.. I don't even know if Pierce will quite make it to us at end of RD 3.. We shall see.. I love Doug martin! Been raving about him since the beggining of the season

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 06:55 AM
I get to do at least 2more weekly mocks now that we beat the mighty packers in there house for a trip to the NFC Title Game! Sweet!!!!lol

Lets get to it shall we!


1. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Ballards play has fall off lately due to injury and probably a bit of him falling back to earth a bit after a surprising start to his season.. Ballard is worth holding on to and would make a great DUO with Dwayne Allen... Allen would be a monster with the WR's we got and Eli as the QB...

2. Bobby Wagner mlb Utah St- I wondered how he was not being looked at as a earlier round prospect when i started noticing him a bit earlier in the season but it seems hes finally caught on and most have em as a 2nd rounder/ Early 3rd.. With Goff's injury and being a FA its a good idea getting a talented high motor/tackling machine in there.. Wagner is a complete LB who could be on the field for 3downs if need be..

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- A perfect fit to replace Brandon Jacobs if we do as i think and hes not retained for the 2012 season.. Pierce is a rugged between the tackles runner who can kick it outside on occasion and bust big runs by breaking tackles and showing great balance.. Pierce was my Favorite back coming into this season but with the talent pool of backs hes fell just a tad in my personal rankings but is still up there enough to love what he offers as a late 3rd round RB..

4.George Iloka S Boise St- A very athletic and tall and rangy Safety who could be a steal in the RD 4 range.. Were a KP or Rolle injury away from having Sash starting and that is a uncertainty.. Iloka would give us Depth with the possiblity of more down the line.. Chad Jones is obviously still very much a unknown..

5. Eric Page WR Toledo- If we lose manningham we could use another WR to help with depth and challenge Jerrell Jerrnigan and the others who are here.. Page has great hands and is a versatile type WR who can do alot of diffrent things for you..

6. Derek Dennis G Temple- With Diehl likely in his last season with us afd Petrus having mixed results so far this pick makes sense and Dennis helped block for a terrific running team and has a big body and a few tools to offer a team..

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Another late rd lineman as in this mock i went in a diffrent direction so adding a couple interior lineman late trying to find a GEm is the strategy.. Gerhart is pretty good and i woulden't be surprised if he did as good as some early round C's in this draft


I approve of this mock...

The only downside I see, is that I don't know if Allen will be there at 32. I could realistically see Denver grabbing him if they decide to go through with Tebow as their starter next year. He may not have the chops to ever be a top-10 QB, but he also doesn't have much of a team around him. He (usually) makes good decisions and having a guy like Allen around would not only help out their running game, but make for a very nice safety blanket to keep their drives going.

If that happened how do you feel about Mark Barron (S, Alabama)? To my eyes, he's the prototypical Giants DB.

Also, do you have Doug Martin going ahead of our pick? I think he's my favorite RB right now. Great size, balance, hands, vision, and is a legit return threat. Definitely Ray Rice/MJD potential
Ya Dwayne Allen could be gone but he also could be there.. I would not have much of a problem going with mark barron if he were there with one of the last few picks in RD 1.. I'd perfer to snag one of the DT's or CB's who are sorely undervalued at this point(guys like Fletcher Cox Devon Still Jerel Worthy Chase minnifield Casey Hayward Stephone Gilmore) are the guys i'd be hoping for if Allen isn't there.. I actually like markelle martin the best outta the saftey's this yr and for some reason hes shown as a late 2nd/ Early 3rd round pick on the net so if we were thinking safety in a early RD i would just wait till our 2nd rounder and hope markelle was there instead of drafting Barron in rD 1.. Again i do like Barron though...


As far as Doug martin i do think he'll be gone either end of RD 2 or first half of RD 3.. I don't even know if Pierce will quite make it to us at end of RD 3.. We shall see.. I love Doug martin! Been raving about him since the beggining of the season

BlueSanta
01-17-2012, 12:21 PM
I get to do at least 2more weekly mocks now that we beat the mighty packers in there house for a trip to the NFC Title Game! Sweet!!!!lol

Lets get to it shall we!


1. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Ballards play has fall off lately due to injury and probably a bit of him falling back to earth a bit after a surprising start to his season.. Ballard is worth holding on to and would make a great DUO with Dwayne Allen... Allen would be a monster with the WR's we got and Eli as the QB...

2. Bobby Wagner mlb Utah St- I wondered how he was not being looked at as a earlier round prospect when i started noticing him a bit earlier in the season but it seems hes finally caught on and most have em as a 2nd rounder/ Early 3rd.. With Goff's injury and being a FA its a good idea getting a talented high motor/tackling machine in there.. Wagner is a complete LB who could be on the field for 3downs if need be..

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- A perfect fit to replace Brandon Jacobs if we do as i think and hes not retained for the 2012 season.. Pierce is a rugged between the tackles runner who can kick it outside on occasion and bust big runs by breaking tackles and showing great balance.. Pierce was my Favorite back coming into this season but with the talent pool of backs hes fell just a tad in my personal rankings but is still up there enough to love what he offers as a late 3rd round RB..

4.George Iloka S Boise St- A very athletic and tall and rangy Safety who could be a steal in the RD 4 range.. Were a KP or Rolle injury away from having Sash starting and that is a uncertainty.. Iloka would give us Depth with the possiblity of more down the line.. Chad Jones is obviously still very much a unknown..

5. Eric Page WR Toledo- If we lose manningham we could use another WR to help with depth and challenge Jerrell Jerrnigan and the others who are here.. Page has great hands and is a versatile type WR who can do alot of diffrent things for you..

6. Derek Dennis G Temple- With Diehl likely in his last season with us afd Petrus having mixed results so far this pick makes sense and Dennis helped block for a terrific running team and has a big body and a few tools to offer a team..

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Another late rd lineman as in this mock i went in a diffrent direction so adding a couple interior lineman late trying to find a GEm is the strategy.. Gerhart is pretty good and i woulden't be surprised if he did as good as some early round C's in this draft


I feel dirty this year. It appears we are in agreement too much on too many players and what this team needs. I am going to take a shower=)

Redeyejedi
01-17-2012, 12:42 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing

BlueSanta
01-17-2012, 12:50 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing

I agree. Over the next few years I think we are going to see changes in the NFL to a different type of safety. The new rules really discourage the use of a "enforcer" type safety.

I think sound tackling will always be a need at this position, but safeties are being pressed into man coverage now far more than in previous years as these hybrid TE/WR types become more and more prevalent. Giants have always valued versatility on defense and this kid seems to have just that.

Redeyejedi
01-17-2012, 02:08 PM
Another guy that I like who is super athletic is OLB Dexter Heyman of Louisville. 6'3 240 and runs a 4.5 40. Productive as well 16 TFL 90 tackles and 3 Interceptions. Kinda flying under the radar. Been wanting to make a vid of him but the quality is crap of the good games he has

Redeyejedi
01-17-2012, 05:05 PM
nfldraftupdate Dion Caputi
Manatee County Sheriff's Office lists "Dandre Kirkpatrick" in its arrest logs as beeing charged with possession of under 20g of marijuana.

Redeyejedi
01-17-2012, 05:07 PM
Yep here it is
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/

Dre Kirkpatrick arrested for weed great timing kid

titwio
01-17-2012, 05:22 PM
Yep here it is
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/

Dre Kirkpatrick arrested for weed great timing kid

Maybe he'll be this year's Mario Manningham. If he takes a big slide into the late first... I definitely wouldn't mind the pick....And that's an understatement.

bLuereverie
01-17-2012, 08:12 PM
I don't see him making it past Dallas. I was just hoping he would get picked before them. Looks like he played himself right into their hands.

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 08:24 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing Thanks redeye. I agree totally on everything u said about iloka

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 08:25 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing Thanks redeye. I agree totally on everything u said about iloka
He'd be a great replacement for Deon Grant(assuming grant retires or is done as a giant)

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 08:26 PM
Another guy that I like who is super athletic is OLB Dexter Heyman of Louisville. 6'3 240 and runs a 4.5 40. Productive as well 16 TFL 90 tackles and 3 Interceptions. Kinda flying under the radar. Been wanting to make a vid of him but the quality is crap of the good games he has I totally agree about Heyman.. Hes the type of guy i could see Reese stealing in the 5th-6th round and turns out to be a solid player

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 08:27 PM
I get to do at least 2more weekly mocks now that we beat the mighty packers in there house for a trip to the NFC Title Game! Sweet!!!!lol

Lets get to it shall we!


1. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Ballards play has fall off lately due to injury and probably a bit of him falling back to earth a bit after a surprising start to his season.. Ballard is worth holding on to and would make a great DUO with Dwayne Allen... Allen would be a monster with the WR's we got and Eli as the QB...

2. Bobby Wagner mlb Utah St- I wondered how he was not being looked at as a earlier round prospect when i started noticing him a bit earlier in the season but it seems hes finally caught on and most have em as a 2nd rounder/ Early 3rd.. With Goff's injury and being a FA its a good idea getting a talented high motor/tackling machine in there.. Wagner is a complete LB who could be on the field for 3downs if need be..

3. Bernard Pierce RB Temple- A perfect fit to replace Brandon Jacobs if we do as i think and hes not retained for the 2012 season.. Pierce is a rugged between the tackles runner who can kick it outside on occasion and bust big runs by breaking tackles and showing great balance.. Pierce was my Favorite back coming into this season but with the talent pool of backs hes fell just a tad in my personal rankings but is still up there enough to love what he offers as a late 3rd round RB..

4.George Iloka S Boise St- A very athletic and tall and rangy Safety who could be a steal in the RD 4 range.. Were a KP or Rolle injury away from having Sash starting and that is a uncertainty.. Iloka would give us Depth with the possiblity of more down the line.. Chad Jones is obviously still very much a unknown..

5. Eric Page WR Toledo- If we lose manningham we could use another WR to help with depth and challenge Jerrell Jerrnigan and the others who are here.. Page has great hands and is a versatile type WR who can do alot of diffrent things for you..

6. Derek Dennis G Temple- With Diehl likely in his last season with us afd Petrus having mixed results so far this pick makes sense and Dennis helped block for a terrific running team and has a big body and a few tools to offer a team..

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Another late rd lineman as in this mock i went in a diffrent direction so adding a couple interior lineman late trying to find a GEm is the strategy.. Gerhart is pretty good and i woulden't be surprised if he did as good as some early round C's in this draft


I feel dirty this year. It appears we are in agreement too much on too many players and what this team needs. I am going to take a shower=)
Your not fully clean untill your zestfully clean!!!lol

Redeyejedi
01-17-2012, 09:11 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates

lawl
01-17-2012, 09:34 PM
Yep here it is http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/17/likely-first-round-pick-dre-kirkpatrick-arrested-for-marijuana-possession/ Dre Kirkpatrick arrested for weed great timing kid</P>


Hell yea, anything that will potentially push a top corner further back helps us.</P>

lawl
01-17-2012, 09:37 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing</P>


It's going to be borderline impossible to find guys to match up with gronk and graham etc. Even Patrick Willis was getting eaten up by Graham, and I don't think I need to detail Willis' athletic prowess. If there's a guy out there that you think can match up with these talented TEs you have to take him.</P>

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 11:11 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing</p>


It's going to be borderline impossible to find guys to match up with gronk and graham etc. Even Patrick Willis was getting eaten up by Graham, and I don't think I need to detail Willis' athletic prowess. If there's a guy out there that you think can match up with these talented TEs you have to take him.</p> All u can do is keep trying to find guys who seem at least capable to contain those guys and on occasion come up with the big play on defense.. I'll tell ya what our safety duo is really playing good right now but again we need depth and i'd imagine Deon Grant is set to retire after the season

nycsportzfan
01-17-2012, 11:13 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates Ya i don't know much about em but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..

lawl
01-17-2012, 11:22 PM
U have a good eye Sportsfan Iloka is an interesting player.With his height he shouldnt be as fluid as he is..He is rather adapt at playing press man coverage. He has some serious upside and could be the answer to the Jimmy Grahams and Rob Gronkowskis that are going to start flooding the NFL. Not the most instinctive safety and has issues in zone coverage but the ability to flip his hips at that size is very intriguing</P>


It's going to be borderline impossible to find guys to match up with gronk and graham etc. Even Patrick Willis was getting eaten up by Graham, and I don't think I need to detail Willis' athletic prowess. If there's a guy out there that you think can match up with these talented TEs you have to take him.</P>


All u can do is keep trying to find guys who seem at least capable to contain those guys and on occasion come up with the big play on defense.. I'll tell ya what our safety duo is really playing good right now but again we need depth and i'd imagine Deon Grant is set to retire after the season
</P>


I agree. A quality 3rd safety is a vital cog in our defense.</P>

Redeyejedi
01-18-2012, 02:13 PM
All I keep seeing is rave reviews about Coastal Carolina CB Josh Norman from the Shrine Bowl practices.
Most are saying Dajohn Harris and Marc Tyler are the 2 best players there

lawl
01-18-2012, 03:05 PM
All I keep seeing is rave reviews about Coastal Carolina CB Josh Norman from the Shrine Bowl practices. Most are saying Dajohn Harris and Marc Tyler are the 2 best players there</P>


Yea, Mayock was talking him up.</P>


He has ideal size.</P>

Redeyejedi
01-18-2012, 09:46 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates Ya i don't know much about em but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..
</P>


I thought I made 2 Videos of him.I must of scribed it but didnt put it up which happens some times I just forget.Anyway here is this 1 in case u didnt see it</P>
<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Dajohn Harris vs Utah 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUcdRFh2G1I)</DIV>

nycsportzfan
01-19-2012, 09:12 AM
Scott Solomon DE Rice is a good looking midish to late rd DE guy.. Good size and motor and solid overall production. I woulden't mind seeing Solomon VS Purdue redeye.. He had a 8tackle 2sack game..

Redeyejedi
01-19-2012, 09:54 AM
* Scott Solomon DE Rice is a good looking midish to late* rd DE guy..** Good size and motor*** and solid overall production.*** I woulden't mind seeing Solomon VS* Purdue redeye.. He had a 8tackle 2sack game..**
That ones not up surprisingly.Usually the small school vs Big School games get capped. The Texas and baylor games are up

Redeyejedi
01-19-2012, 11:12 AM
Tauren Poole getting heaps of praise at the Shrine Bowl had great 2010 tape this year not so much.His Oline was horrible and the team was dysfunctional. Very impressive games last year against LSU,Oregon and Alabama

nycsportzfan
01-19-2012, 08:41 PM
Scott Solomon DE Rice is a good looking midish to late rd DE guy.. Good size and motor and solid overall production. I woulden't mind seeing Solomon VS Purdue redeye.. He had a 8tackle 2sack game..
That ones not up surprisingly.Usually the small school vs Big School games get capped. The Texas and baylor games are up Either way i think Solomon has a chance to be a solid pro

nycsportzfan
01-19-2012, 08:49 PM
Tauren Poole getting heaps of praise at the Shrine Bowl had great 2010 tape this year not so much.His Oline was horrible and the team was dysfunctional. Very impressive games last year against LSU,Oregon and Alabama We'll have to keep a eye on poole.. Kinda Arian Foster like as far as having a big yr then having a down yr and i think that'll help him talking about the success of Foster.. ..


I'm interested in davin meggett myself.. THeres a handful of sleeper RB's(talking rds 5-7) that really interest me that i've probably mentioned in this thread or sleeper thread and they'd be

Davin meggett rb maryland
Bobby Rainey rb w kentucky- this kids got something..
marc tyler rb usc- size and potential are his calling cards..
Adonis Thomas rb toledo- seen this kid about 5times this yr and was impressed every time.
Lance Dunbar rb n texas- see bobby rainey all though i like rainey a tad more

Raptor22
01-19-2012, 08:59 PM
How pissed would Scott be if he lost his job to Meggit again?

Also, I'd be a bit afraid of Taylor in NY. Great potential, no doubt, but the kid's a nipplehead. Between the temptations in NY, and the media there to watch, he could be a headache.

nycsportzfan
01-20-2012, 06:52 AM
A great new additon to Walter Football is the Draft Diary with TANK CARDER.. Hes gonna be doing instalments all the way till the draft and here is the first one right here.. Walter and his partner really get to get in close with players and that is why there site is not like alot of other sites that don't go to the shrine games and combine and all that j***.. Anyhow heres the first installment and its well worth the read.. He gives a shout out to Jerry Franklin who i happen to like alot as a mid rd LB



<blockquote> Tank Carder 2012 NFL Draft Diary (http://www.walterfootball.com/tankcarder.php) - 1/20
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bLuereverie
01-21-2012, 04:22 PM
Can anyone school me on Zebrie Sanders? Only vid I found of him is the hilarious play where he falls asleep on the field.

Redeyejedi
01-21-2012, 07:44 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates* Ya i don't know much about em* but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..**
Im starting to think we should take a Dlineman no matter what. Im starting to get a feeling Austin is going to bust.

CGYgiant
01-21-2012, 07:52 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates Ya i don't know much about em but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..
Im starting to think we should take a Dlineman no matter what. Im starting to get a feeling Austin is going to bust.

He hasn't even played a snap yet.. I mean he just very well might. lets at least see the kid in action before though

Raptor22
01-21-2012, 11:20 PM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates Ya i don't know much about em but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..
Im starting to think we should take a Dlineman no matter what. Im starting to get a feeling Austin is going to bust.

I don't get that vibe from him. Given how he worked on his own getting ready for the draft, you KNOW he's got work ethic, and he's in the perfect situation to nurture his talents. He's got veteran leaders to give him guidance in Tuck and Canty, and an existing friend on the team in Nicks. (read his tweets from the GB game, he was freakin' excited).

He's also got a huge chip on his shoulder after the mess at UNC.

I think people are going to be surprised by Austin next preseason, especially since he's become a bit of an afterthought.

He won't be as good as if it was his sophomore season, but I want to see him play before being anything other than cautiously optimistic.

Also, it was a pec, not his legs. He's going to have all of his explosiveness and fluidity

nycsportzfan
01-22-2012, 03:33 AM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates Ya i don't know much about em but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..
Im starting to think we should take a Dlineman no matter what. Im starting to get a feeling Austin is going to bust.

He hasn't even played a snap yet.. I mean he just very well might. lets at least see the kid in action before though
Redeye's thinking is the guys gonna constantly have something going on and standing in his way ala injury or suspension etc.. Then u add in the fact hes missing seasons where hes supposed to get seasoned and hes not..

I can see where Redeye would worry albeit its just a hunch he has not a gurantee or anything..

Raptor22
01-22-2012, 10:50 AM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates* Ya i don't know much about em* but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..**
Im starting to think we should take a Dlineman no matter what. Im starting to get a feeling Austin is going to bust.

He hasn't even played a snap yet.. I mean he just very well might. lets at least see the kid in action before though
* Redeye's thinking is the guys gonna constantly have something going on** and standing in his way* ala** injury or suspension* etc..** Then u add in the fact hes missing seasons where hes supposed to get seasoned and hes not..*

I can see where Redeye would worry* albeit its just a hunch he has** not a gurantee or anything..


I said it at the start of the season when we first started getting hammered by injuries: Adversity is the forge of greatness. The best never had it easy. If Austin can overcome this he can be a good one.

Redeyejedi
01-22-2012, 11:44 AM
WesBunting Wesley Bunting
Biggest winners from the #shrinegame so far this week are...#USC DT DaJohn Harris, explosive, powerful when plays low tough block


Watched this guy in September and knew he was going to be loved by Scouts. Guys that big 6'4 310 and collapse the pocket are in high demand. His numbers arent mind blowing but he is disruptive in ways that dont always show up on the stat sheet. When U pressure QB's up the middle force bad throws and cause sacks for his teammates* Ya i don't know much about em* but certainly have noticed him on some prospect rankings around the web..**
Im starting to think we should take a Dlineman no matter what. Im starting to get a feeling Austin is going to bust.

He hasn't even played a snap yet.. I mean he just very well might. lets at least see the kid in action before though
* Redeye's thinking is the guys gonna constantly have something going on** and standing in his way* ala** injury or suspension* etc..** Then u add in the fact hes missing seasons where hes supposed to get seasoned and hes not..*

I can see where Redeye would worry* albeit its just a hunch he has** not a gurantee or anything..
Thanks yeah thats part of it I liked Austin pre draft. Im not saying for sure or anything but im just getting a bad vibe

Im worried because im not sure he has the work ethic to overcome 2 seasons of rust

Redeyejedi
01-22-2012, 09:23 PM
Bunch of guys pulling out of the Senior Bowl just saw on Twitter
Kendall Wright
Devon Still
Levy Ad****
Brandon Mosley
Mychael Kendricks

Raptor22
01-23-2012, 01:29 AM
Okay, this is slightly off-topic, but Jaquain Williams means JR &gt; than Mel Kiper is, was, or ever will be.

I know Sportzfan and I (and Redeye too, I believe) were saying it shortly after he was drafted, but J-WILL = FUTURE STUD, and the future is closer than you think.

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 02:58 AM
Okay, this is slightly off-topic, but Jaquain Williams means JR > than Mel Kiper is, was, or ever will be.

I know Sportzfan and I (and Redeye too, I believe) were saying it shortly after he was drafted, but J-WILL = FUTURE STUD, and the future is closer than you think.
Once I started watching game tape of him got a little upset that i missed him. May be the lack of Big East Football i watch.Same thing this year. Cinci,WV,Rutgers Ive watched a good amount besides that not much. Actually read that Nebraska really wanted Jacquain Williams but he wanted to go with JPP

Raptor22
01-23-2012, 09:14 AM
Okay, this is slightly off-topic, but Jaquain Williams means JR > than Mel Kiper is, was, or ever will be.

I know Sportzfan and I (and Redeye too, I believe) were saying it shortly after he was drafted, but J-WILL = FUTURE STUD, and the future is closer than you think.
Once I started watching game tape of him got a little upset that i missed him. May be the lack of Big East Football i watch.Same thing this year. Cinci,WV,Rutgers Ive watched a good amount besides that not much. Actually read that Nebraska really wanted Jacquain Williams but he wanted to go with JPP

...and Damn good thing he did. Now he's going with JPP to the Superbowl!

slipknottin
01-23-2012, 12:09 PM
The more of him i watch, the more I want coby fleener in the first round.

tdawg1413
01-23-2012, 12:49 PM
The more of him i watch, the more I want coby fleener in the first round.

Would love to get Fleener, but I see us going OL in Round 1. Also, I think we need a RB with explosion even if we lose BJ. Bradshaw can get the tough yards as the short yardage guy.I am not sure if we are comfortable with Scott as the speed guy in that committee so I can see us grabbing a player like LaMichael James, which I would love personally. Even David Wilson in Round 2 or a guy like Pead in say the 3rd would be fine. We can get a TE like Egnew in round 3 if we went OL in 1 and RB in 2.

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 12:51 PM
Some updates from the weigh in

Kelechie Osmele had the longest Wingspan 85.5"

JoshNorris Josh Norris
Emmanuel Acho 6010 235

JoshNorris Josh Norris
Ladarius Green-6056-237


JoshNorris Josh Norris
Cyrus Gray-5102-198
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

TMeltonScouting Thomas Melton
Cordy Glenn 6'5 1/2, 346. Sort of sloppy build.

eh i will post them all when there done

JoshNorris Josh Norris
Nigel Bradham 6015 237 very well built

Schottey Michael Schottey
Nigel Bradham looks like every other FSU prospect ever...like a stud

heavyhitter
01-23-2012, 01:26 PM
Some updates from the weigh in

Kelechie Osmele had the longest Wingspan 85.5"

JoshNorris Josh Norris
Emmanuel Acho 6010 235

JoshNorris Josh Norris
Ladarius Green-6056-237


JoshNorris Josh Norris
Cyrus Gray-5102-198
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

TMeltonScouting Thomas Melton
Cordy Glenn 6'5 1/2, 346. Sort of sloppy build.

eh i will post them all when there done

JoshNorris Josh Norris
Nigel Bradham 6015 237 very well built

Schottey Michael Schottey <font size="4">
Nigel Bradham looks like every other FSU prospect ever...like a stud</font><font size="3">Bradham played primarily weakside LB but he's got the size, strength, &amp; athleticism to play all three spots. He's a guy who will blow up the combine and test off the charts. Would love for the Giants to draft him. Whatever team takes Bradham will be extremely happy!
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Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 01:28 PM
RB's Polk and Martin are getting rave reviews for there compact strong builds.
Many Jokes about Kellen Moore at 5'11 191

heavyhitter
01-23-2012, 01:44 PM
RB's Polk and Martin are getting rave reviews for there compact strong builds.
Many Jokes about Kellen Moore at 5'11 191<font size="2">Good crop of RB's available this year and I can see the Giants drafting one if the value is right. They could use the help at that position, that's for sure.</font>

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 02:32 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko
George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up

Intriguing guy right there.

slipknottin
01-23-2012, 02:47 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko
George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up

Intriguing guy right there.

if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 03:19 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko
George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up

Intriguing guy right there. i like em more and more!

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 05:42 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko
George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up

Intriguing guy right there.

if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO.He can play press coverage might be a guy to match up with these freak TE's