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Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 05:43 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko
Boise st de shea mcclellin seeing time at mlb

bandwgn86
01-23-2012, 05:46 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up Intriguing guy right there. if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO.He can play press coverage might be a guy to match up with these freak TE'sany freak TE's that we may be able to get in the draft this year?

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 05:46 PM
Heres all the weigh in Info for Sr bowl participants



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2012 Senior Bowl Home (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Quarterbacks (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinQB.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Running Backs (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinRB.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Wide Receivers (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinWR.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Tight Ends (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinTE.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Offensive Linemen (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinOL.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Defensive Linemen (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinDL.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Linebackers (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinLB.php)

2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In: Defensive Backs (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighinDB.php)</font>

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 05:49 PM
matt mccants is gonna be a guy whos gonna fly up draft boards if he perfor<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms well at the Sr bowl.. He ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me in at over 300lbs(306) which was heavier then the listed 295 and that is a question answered for the Athletic freak.. Hes got the look of a LT and the Athletic Ability of a NFL LT.. Watch out for hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m getting late 1st and early 2nd rd consideration as draft approaches
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Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 05:54 PM
matt mccants is gonna be a guy whos gonna fly up draft boards* if he perfor<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms well at the Sr bowl..* He ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me in at over 300lbs(306)* which was heavier then the listed 295** and that is a question answered for the Athletic freak..** Hes got the look of a* LT and the Athletic Ability of a NFL LT.. Watch out for hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m getting late 1st* and early 2nd rd consideration as draft approaches
</span>Some guy on Youtube kept hounding me for Mccants footage at the start of the CFB season but I couldnt find any games of him

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 05:59 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up Intriguing guy right there. if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO.He can play press coverage might be a guy to match up with these freak TE'sany freak TE's that we may be able to get in the draft this year? Freak TE's im not sure. Orson Charles of Georgia is a sick receiver. Coby FLeener another gifted pass catcher. Ladarius Green Louisiana Lafayette is a long athletic receiver . I liked Eifert the best but he didnt come out.</P>
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<FONT color=#980001>Orson Charles vs Georgia Tech 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqsdLRzk2g)</P></DIV>
<DIV class=playnav-video-info><SPAN><FONT color=#980001>Orson Charles</FONT></SPAN> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANlHh0hD-S0) vs Florida 2010 <SPAN id=playnav-curvideo-channel-name><FONT color=#ff0000>BrownsOrBust</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/user/BrownsOrBust) </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=playnav-video-info><SPAN><FONT color=#0033cc>Michael Egnew vs Kansas State 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YscGqtOU8ag)</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Michael Egnew vs Illinois and Nebraska</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7vvlMmPxmU) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Dwayne Allen vs Auburn 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JITvvVL14lM)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Dwayne Allen vs Boston College</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLGLyVVS6yw)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#1c62b9>Coby Fleener vs UCLA 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB5ycOzo6ew)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Coby Fleener vs Virginia Tech and Notre Dame</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UoCWTyIRwk) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#1c62b9>Coby Fleener vs Notre Dame 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZDU-qKMPWg)</DIV>
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<FONT color=#1c62b9>David Paulson vs Oregon State 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwrZQe5AAg) </P>


<FONT color=#1c62b9>Tyler Eifert vs Stanford 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxwhESa3uFc) </P></DIV>
<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Tyler Eifert vs Pittsburgh 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4QmgSA98Eg) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Tyler Eifert vs South Florida 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVS119YR1w)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Tyler Eifert vs Army 2010</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxGC1JB0SU) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Josh Chichester vs FIU 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqZ4uAK-qGM)</DIV>
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<FONT color=#1c62b9>Ladarius Green vs SDSU 2011 "New Orleans Bowl"</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIY2E556BdY) </P></DIV>
<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Jake Stoneburner vs Akron 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzm2ZpGDTmY)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title>Heres the TE vids ive done</DIV></DIV>

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:03 PM
matt mccants is gonna be a guy whos gonna fly up draft boards if he perfor<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms well at the Sr bowl.. He ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me in at over 300lbs(306) which was heavier then the listed 295 and that is a question answered for the Athletic freak.. Hes got the look of a LT and the Athletic Ability of a NFL LT.. Watch out for hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m getting late 1st and early 2nd rd consideration as draft approaches
</span>Some guy on Youtube kept hounding me for Mccants footage at the start of the CFB season but I couldnt find any games of him Ya i woulden't <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"></span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"></span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mind seeing so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me footage of hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m as well.. Been seeing hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m for awhile now on prospect lists and so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me had e</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m as a </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mid rder and so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me had e</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m late 2nd into the 3rd.. I think his Weight will really help hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m as well as playing well in the Sr Bowl against top co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mp consdering hes outta the weaker Conf USA
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nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:08 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up Intriguing guy right there. if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO.He can play press coverage might be a guy to match up with these freak TE'sany freak TE's that we may be able to get in the draft this year? Freak TE's im not sure. Orson Charles of Georgia is a sick receiver. Coby FLeener another gifted pass catcher. Ladarius Green Louisiana Lafayette is a long athletic receiver . I liked Eifert the best but he didnt come out.</p>
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<font color="#980001">Orson Charles vs Georgia Tech 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqsdLRzk2g)</p></div>
<div class="playnav-video-info"><span><font color="#980001">Orson Charles</font></span> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANlHh0hD-S0) vs Florida 2010 <span id="playnav-curvideo-channel-name"><font color="#ff0000">BrownsOrBust</font> (http://www.youtube.com/user/BrownsOrBust) </span></div>
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<div class="playnav-video-info"><span><font color="#0033cc">Michael Egnew vs Kansas State 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YscGqtOU8ag)</span></div></div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Michael Egnew vs Illinois and Nebraska</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7vvlMmPxmU) </div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Dwayne Allen vs Auburn 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JITvvVL14lM)</div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Dwayne Allen vs Boston College</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLGLyVVS6yw)</div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#1c62b9">Coby Fleener vs UCLA 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB5ycOzo6ew)</div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Coby Fleener vs Virginia Tech and Notre Dame</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UoCWTyIRwk) </div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#1c62b9">Coby Fleener vs Notre Dame 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZDU-qKMPWg)</div>
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<font color="#1c62b9">David Paulson vs Oregon State 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwrZQe5AAg) </p>


<font color="#1c62b9">Tyler Eifert vs Stanford 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxwhESa3uFc) </p></div>
<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Tyler Eifert vs Pittsburgh 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4QmgSA98Eg) </div>
<div class="vm-video-title"></div>
<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Tyler Eifert vs South Florida 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVS119YR1w)</div>
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<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Tyler Eifert vs Army 2010</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxGC1JB0SU) </div>
<div class="vm-video-title"></div>
<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Josh Chichester vs FIU 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqZ4uAK-qGM)</div>
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<font color="#1c62b9">Ladarius Green vs SDSU 2011 "New Orleans Bowl"</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIY2E556BdY) </p></div>
<div class="vm-video-title"><font color="#0033cc">Jake Stoneburner vs Akron 2011</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzm2ZpGDTmY)</div>
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<div class="vm-video-title">Heres the TE vids ive done</div></div> I think the Sleeper TE's of this class are Brian Linthicu<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m and David Paulson.. Neither is really big and not your typical Run Blocking TE's but both give effort and get the job done see</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mingly</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"> </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more often then not </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">and both have flashed the Hands in the recieving ga</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me..</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"> George Bryan is a guy i could see the Giants looking at as he fits the </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mold of a Giant TE..
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slipknottin
01-23-2012, 06:08 PM
Im telling you, if Fleener has the frame to add another 20-30 pounds. He is going to be a beast in the nfl.

bandwgn86
01-23-2012, 06:13 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up Intriguing guy right there. if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO.He can play press coverage might be a guy to match up with these freak TE'sany freak TE's that we may be able to get in the draft this year? Freak TE's im not sure. Orson Charles of Georgia is a sick receiver. Coby FLeener another gifted pass catcher. Ladarius Green Louisiana Lafayette is a long athletic receiver . I liked Eifert the best but he didnt come out.</P>
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<FONT color=#980001>Orson Charles vs Georgia Tech 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqsdLRzk2g)</P></DIV>
<DIV class=playnav-video-info><SPAN><FONT color=#980001>Orson Charles</FONT></SPAN> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANlHh0hD-S0) vs Florida 2010 <SPAN id=playnav-curvideo-channel-name><FONT color=#ff0000>BrownsOrBust</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/user/BrownsOrBust) </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=playnav-video-info><SPAN><FONT color=#0033cc>Michael Egnew vs Kansas State 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YscGqtOU8ag)</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Michael Egnew vs Illinois and Nebraska</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7vvlMmPxmU) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Dwayne Allen vs Auburn 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JITvvVL14lM)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Dwayne Allen vs Boston College</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLGLyVVS6yw)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#1c62b9>Coby Fleener vs UCLA 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB5ycOzo6ew)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Coby Fleener vs Virginia Tech and Notre Dame</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UoCWTyIRwk) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#1c62b9>Coby Fleener vs Notre Dame 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZDU-qKMPWg)</DIV>
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<FONT color=#1c62b9>David Paulson vs Oregon State 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIwrZQe5AAg) </P>


<FONT color=#1c62b9>Tyler Eifert vs Stanford 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxwhESa3uFc) </P></DIV>
<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Tyler Eifert vs Pittsburgh 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4QmgSA98Eg) </DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Tyler Eifert vs South Florida 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVS119YR1w)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Tyler Eifert vs Army 2010</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCxGC1JB0SU) </DIV>
<DIV class=vm-video-title></DIV>
<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Josh Chichester vs FIU 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqZ4uAK-qGM)</DIV>
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<FONT color=#1c62b9>Ladarius Green vs SDSU 2011 "New Orleans Bowl"</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIY2E556BdY) </P></DIV>
<DIV class=vm-video-title><FONT color=#0033cc>Jake Stoneburner vs Akron 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzm2ZpGDTmY)</DIV>
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<DIV class=vm-video-title>Heres the TE vids ive done</DIV></DIV>names and videos....awesome thanks

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:19 PM
Im telling you, if Fleener has the frame to add another 20-30 pounds. He is going to be a beast in the nfl. I coulden't agree <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more.. I think Fleener is gonna be a stud but Allen has that all around TE fra</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me all ready and can beat u deep and short as well as block.. I love both TE's but Allen has a </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mplete TE skill set in </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my opinion.. I think Allen could end up being a Antonio Gates type talent..
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nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:21 PM
If Doug <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">martin runs well at the co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mbine with that 5ft 9in 219lb fra</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me and ability to return kicks hes gonna see his stock fly high as well.. I all ready think hes sensational and u add in a solid 40 ti</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me to that bowling ball fra</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me and ability to catch the ball outta the backfield and u gotta start thinking Ray Rice and </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mjd!
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slipknottin
01-23-2012, 06:27 PM
** I think Allen could end up being a Antonio Gates type talent..
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Allen and Fleener are different types of TEs in the NFL, IMO.

Allen is closer to a Hernandez type TE. Dont think he has the strength or speed of a Vernon Davis. I think he will end up being more of a move TE. Not an inline guy.

Fleener if he has the frame (he should at 6'6 with what seems like a big wingspan) could definately grow into a 270+ pound inline type TE.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:43 PM
I think Allen could end up being a Antonio Gates type talent..


Allen and Fleener are different types of TEs in the NFL, IMO.

Allen is closer to a Hernandez type TE. Dont think he has the strength or speed of a Vernon Davis. I think he will end up being more of a move TE. Not an inline guy.

Fleener if he has the frame (he should at 6'6 with what seems like a big wingspan) could definately grow into a 270+ pound inline type TE. i also don't think he has Vernon Davis type speed but vernon davis is the <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most physically i</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mposing ahtletic freak TE in the NFL. Hence why he was the 5th overall pick and none of the other bigti</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me TE's ca</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me close to top 5 picks.. Allen has alot of si</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">milarities to Gates as far as being just about the exact sa</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me size and there good enough to get deep </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">middle as well as having the hands to catch anything in the inter</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mediate range and even though there not blocker extrodinaires can certainly get the job done.. There both pretty athletic as well.. Fleener is a fine player in his own right and as u said with that fra</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me if he can gain weight and keep that ability to gain yards after the catch and </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make big plays he'd be one of the best TE's around.. There pretty close in </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my opinion but i think Allen's potential is alittle higher all though your right and i woulden't be surprised if Fleener has a better career
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Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 06:44 PM
** I think Allen could end up being a Antonio Gates type talent..
</span>

Allen and Fleener are different types of TEs in the NFL, IMO.

Allen is closer to a Hernandez type TE. Dont think he has the strength or speed of a Vernon Davis. I think he will end up being more of a move TE. Not an inline guy.

Fleener if he has the frame (he should at 6'6 with what seems like a big wingspan) could definately grow into a 270+ pound inline type TE.He has that potential but Stanford didnt really use him much as a Blocker at all really.

slipknottin
01-23-2012, 06:49 PM
He has that potential but Stanford didnt really use him much as a Blocker at all really.

Yea, but why would they when he was clearly their best receiving option.

But looking at the giants history, they dont often draft TEs who are capable blockers, they draft guys with the size/growth potential, and the willingness to block.

Then they just have Mike Pope teach them how to block, and they generally become pretty damn good at it.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:51 PM
I think Allen could end up being a Antonio Gates type talent..


Allen and Fleener are different types of TEs in the NFL, IMO.

Allen is closer to a Hernandez type TE. Dont think he has the strength or speed of a Vernon Davis. I think he will end up being more of a move TE. Not an inline guy.

Fleener if he has the frame (he should at 6'6 with what seems like a big wingspan) could definately grow into a 270+ pound inline type TE.He has that potential but Stanford didnt really use him much as a Blocker at all really. Thats the only thing i worry about with fleener is the fact that he didn't block that <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much and is so slender for the TE positon and really what he does well is </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make bigger longer plays then TE's usually do(oustide of the best) and u wonder if gaining 20lbs would hurt that ability and take away fro</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m abit.. The guy Avg'd all </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most 20yrd per catch for godsake! As far as Allen he blocks well enough and </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more often and still gives u everything offensively and probably has only scratched the surface of his overall talent.. U give e</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m a QB like Eli to throw it to hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m and its all </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most scary
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nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 07:47 PM
<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">wow were in the SB yet again and i get to do 2 </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mocks instead of 1.. Yippee!!lol We got a bunch of FA's this yr and guys who are gonna be co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ming off big injuries as well.. Also u add in guys like Osi whos all ready talked trade a bunch and Jacobs and Diehl who are guys who probably won't be back and all that </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">makes this one of the </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more i</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mportant drafts and off seasons in recent </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mory as there could be alot of change around here.. Ross/ Jacobs/ Osi/ TT/ Goff/ Blackburn/ Bernard/ Ballard/D Tho</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mas/ Carr/ Weahorford/ </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mario/ Tollefson/ Coe/</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mckenzie / pascoe(restricted)/ are all guys who could either be let go because of how </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much they </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make or traded(in osi's case) or are FA's in so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me capacity wheather its restricted or exculsive rights or a regular old FA.. That is alot of guys we gotta </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make decisons on going forward.. With that said Here is this weeks </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mock


1. Dwayne Allen TE Cle</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mson- Sticking with the guy who is the best at his positon offering us alot of bang for our buck picking this late in RD 1.. We could lose </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mario so adding another weapon for ELI isn't a bad idea.. Also Ballard has fell off due to injury and and theres just not a ton of depth at the positon for us..

2. Doug </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">martin RB Boise St- I don't think the bowling ball 5ft 9inch 219lb who can return kicks will </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make it to us in RD 3.. This guy catches it outta the backfield and has </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much exp bass blocking for Boises big passing offense and has solid speed. Hes got alot of si</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">milar attributes to Ray Rice and </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mjd..

3. Nate Potter G/T Boise St- </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">A Tackle for the broncos so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me see Potter going to G in the pros.. the giants covet oline</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">man that can </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">man </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">multiple positons and Potter has the possiblity to be a guy who can play every line positon outside of C in a pinch.. I see potter as a guy who isn't a stud in any one area but does </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">many things relatively well.. Hes got quick feet and long ar</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"></span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms and is a effective co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mbo blocker.. I think hes got great value late RD 3..

4. Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College- Now that the positon is so deep with talent i could see Fletcher possibly there in RD 4 and hes got the size we covet at the positon and the value is there this late in RD 4 as well.. Also u add in the BC ties we've had over the yrs and with Coughlin fletcher could be a guy we'd look at in RD 4 if the draft plays out like i got it here..

5. Sean Cattouse SS California- A big and Stong SS who could fill the Deon Grant roll on this tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m very well.. Cattouse is one of </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my sleepers in this draft and i think the value is there for a RD 5 pick

6. De</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mario Davis OLB Arkansas St- This dude can ball! Bigti</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me hitter who can </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make plays against the pass and rush the passer when asked as well as a sure tackler that wraps up well and trys to punish ball carriers.. Davis could be a beast on ST's as he works his way into playing ti</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me as a
LB..</span>

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Underrated C in a pretty solid C class.. Hes got the size and expierence and could be a later round steal..
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Raptor22
01-23-2012, 08:15 PM
Very solidsolid

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 08:32 PM
NEPD_Loyko Mike Loyko
George Iloka might have been the most impressive looking DB there.. 6'3 5/8 222 and jacked up

Intriguing guy right there.

if he runs well, hes a 2nd rounder, IMO. Almost a 7' Wingspan as well. NEPatriotsdraft claims he has verified 4.4 speed Im not sure about that.If he does have that straight line speed it doesnt show up, looks like a 4.6 guy. Still a DB at 6'3 5/8 225 81" Wingspan is eye opening

Raptor22
01-23-2012, 08:34 PM
Very solid draft. I love Martin in the 2nd. But I just don't see Allen falling to US in the 1st. I don't see him making it past the Broncos at 25.

Also, how do you feel about Audie Cole in the 3rd? Might need a bit of luck to land him there if he has anything like a good combine. I just love his frame and explosiveness. He needs mass and seasoning, but the way he moves and hits kinda reminds me of a poor man's (white) Patrick Willis.

Redeyejedi
01-23-2012, 09:31 PM
Very solid draft. I love Martin in the 2nd. But I just don't see Allen falling to US in the 1st. I don't see him making it past the Broncos at 25.

Also, how do you feel about Audie Cole in the 3rd? Might need a bit of luck to land him there if he has anything like a good combine. I just love his frame and explosiveness. He needs mass and seasoning, but the way he moves and hits kinda reminds me of a poor man's (white) Patrick Willis.I think Audie Cole will end up as a 3-4 SOLB . He rushes the passer well can cover the short zone. Could be a good fit for the Giants as a SOLB.He isnt a MLB though.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 09:44 PM
Very solid draft. I love Martin in the 2nd. But I just don't see Allen falling to US in the 1st. I don't see him making it past the Broncos at 25.

Also, how do you feel about Audie Cole in the 3rd? Might need a bit of luck to land him there if he has anything like a good combine. I just love his frame and explosiveness. He needs mass and seasoning, but the way he moves and hits kinda reminds me of a poor man's (white) Patrick Willis. Allen could certainly be gone or another guy could drop that the broncos didn't expect which changes there pick to whoever that is.. Allen is teetering on the late 1st/early 2nd rd as of now and as u know the draft is very hard to perdict so when talking about late 1st round guys they very well could either be gone or other guys could drop and the whole thing gets flipped around as far as what u were expecting.. So i actually think Allen has a chance based on that alone of falling to us.. I love Audie Cole and if hes around in RD 3 for us i'd definetly take a look if i was the Giants.. I woulden't be upset if they took e<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m in RD 2.. Thanks for the input!
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Raptor22
01-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Very solid draft. I love Martin in the 2nd. But I just don't see Allen falling to US in the 1st. I don't see him making it past the Broncos at 25.

Also, how do you feel about Audie Cole in the 3rd? Might need a bit of luck to land him there if he has anything like a good combine. I just love his frame and explosiveness. He needs mass and seasoning, but the way he moves and hits kinda reminds me of a poor man's (white) Patrick Willis.* Allen could certainly be gone or another guy could drop that the broncos didn't expect which changes there pick to whoever that is..* Allen is teetering on the late 1st/early 2nd rd* as of now** and as u know the draft is very hard to perdict* so when talking about late 1st round guys* they very well could either be gone or other guys could drop and the whole thing gets flipped around** as far as what u were expecting.. So i actually think Allen has a chance based on that alone* of falling to us..* I love Audie Cole** and if hes around in RD 3 for us** i'd definetly take a look if i was the Giants..* I woulden't be upset if they took e<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m in RD 2..* Thanks for the input!
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Any time. And I can definitely see both scenarios... if.Allen's there I hope JR sprints to the podium (unless there's somebody there who they NEVER expected to be sitting there, like Kuechly or the like)

That's one thing I love about the draft, you can analyze every scenario, every angle, and still be blown away on draft day. There's ALWAYS a gem that falls through the cracks and has no business sitting there.

At least we know we have a GM who's 'heads up' enough and not so myopic that he'll gladly take advantage.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 10:49 PM
Very solid draft. I love Martin in the 2nd. But I just don't see Allen falling to US in the 1st. I don't see him making it past the Broncos at 25.

Also, how do you feel about Audie Cole in the 3rd? Might need a bit of luck to land him there if he has anything like a good combine. I just love his frame and explosiveness. He needs mass and seasoning, but the way he moves and hits kinda reminds me of a poor man's (white) Patrick Willis. Allen could certainly be gone or another guy could drop that the broncos didn't expect which changes there pick to whoever that is.. Allen is teetering on the late 1st/early 2nd rd as of now and as u know the draft is very hard to perdict so when talking about late 1st round guys they very well could either be gone or other guys could drop and the whole thing gets flipped around as far as what u were expecting.. So i actually think Allen has a chance based on that alone of falling to us.. I love Audie Cole and if hes around in RD 3 for us i'd definetly take a look if i was the Giants.. I woulden't be upset if they took e<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m in RD 2.. Thanks for the input!
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Any time. And I can definitely see both scenarios... if.Allen's there I hope JR sprints to the podium (unless there's somebody there who they NEVER expected to be sitting there, like Kuechly or the like)

That's one thing I love about the draft, you can analyze every scenario, every angle, and still be blown away on draft day. There's ALWAYS a gem that falls through the cracks and has no business sitting there.

At least we know we have a GM who's 'heads up' enough and not so myopic that he'll gladly take advantage. Look at Prince A<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">muku</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mura just last yr.. No one thought he'd be around when we picked.. In fact it would of been al</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most laughable if u even considered it or put e</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m as our 1st rd pick in a </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mock..lol

One thing we certainly need is SPEED at the RB positon and unless were groo</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ming Dar'el Scott then we gotta get that this offseason and i woulden't put David Wilson outta the real</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m of possiblities for us at the END of RD 1.. Its just ridiculously hard to perdict the draft let alone when your picking at the very end of RD 1..
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bLuereverie
01-23-2012, 11:01 PM
One thing we certainly need is SPEED at the RB positon* and unless were groo</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ming Dar'el Scott* then we gotta get that this offseason and i woulden't put* David Wilson outta the real</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m of possiblities for us at the END of RD 1..*** Its just ridiculously hard to perdict the draft** let alone when your picking at the very end of RD 1..
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I'm taking a look at Isaiah Pead from Cincy. Da'rel Scott has undeniable straight line speed, but I just haven't seen a quickness in his cut to make him a successful NFL running back.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 11:12 PM
One thing we certainly need is SPEED at the RB positon and unless were groo<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ming Dar'el Scott then we gotta get that this offseason and i woulden't put David Wilson outta the real</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m of possiblities for us at the END of RD 1.. Its just ridiculously hard to perdict the draft let alone when your picking at the very end of RD 1..
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I'm taking a look at Isaiah Pead from Cincy. Da'rel Scott has undeniable straight line speed, but I just have seen a quickness in his cut to make him a successful NFL running back. Ya Pead was a guy i raved about going into this past college season and he certainly lived up to <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my hype.. Hes got great balance and can </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make the highlight real runs and also catch the ball well.. The RB class is very deep.. I really hope we get one of the guys out there.. Weather its adding a battering ra</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m to litterally try and replace BJ with a si</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">milar back(u think Robert Turbin/Terrance Ganaway/ Chris Polk/bernard pierce) or a speedster who can bring a diffrent ele</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ment to our backfield(u think la</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">michael ja</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mes/ David Wilson/Doug </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">martin/ Isaiah Pead) i'</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m fine with either idea.. I personally would like the Speed and "break a big one" back to be added that also can catch but i'</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m totally ok with a Terrance ganaway type back being added if thats the way the FO goes.. We definetly need a fresh take at the RB positon and a pair of legs that aren't beat on..
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BlueSanta
01-24-2012, 04:45 AM
Im telling you, if Fleener has the frame to add another 20-30 pounds. He is going to be a beast in the nfl. I coulden't agree <span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more.. I think Fleener is gonna be a stud but Allen has that all around TE fra</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me all ready and can beat u deep and short as well as block.. I love both TE's but Allen has a </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mplete TE skill set in </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my opinion.. I think Allen could end up being a Antonio Gates type talent..
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Im a huge Fleener fan too. I love the system experience he has too.

I think Slip nailed it on him. All he needs is a lil mass and he is a perfect fit for us.

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 06:35 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors.php) - 1/23 </font>

2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 06:42 AM
probably my top "sleeper" as i seen and learned more about Leonard Johnson as the yr went on he is now rising up draft boards and u would be hard pressed to find him any further down then RD 3 and still rising! mayock compares to Brandon Flowers and i can see the same type of shutdown Corner as flowers when i watch Johnson as well.. Hes got everything u want in a CB Size and Speed wise and should be a heck of a man cover corner in the NFL.. Keep a eye on Johnson as a possible 2nd rd pick when said and done..
http://www.walterfootball.com/college/IowaState_logo.gif Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State


One corner Mike Mayock likes is Leonard Johnson. Mayock compared Johnson
to Brandon Flowers. The Iowa State product was beat once in the
one-on-one drills, but getting heavy praise like that from Mayock has to
give his stock a slight boost.

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 06:45 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors.php) - 1/23 </font>

2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e
I forgot to post these

<font size="3">2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice2.php) - 1/23 </font>

Charlie's detailed 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with one-on-one winners.







<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Prospect Meetings Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012meetings.php) - 1/23 </font>

A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Mo

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 06:45 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors.php) - 1/23 </font>

2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e
I forgot to post these

<font size="3">2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice2.php) - 1/23 </font>

Charlie's detailed 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with one-on-one winners.







<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Prospect Meetings Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012meetings.php) - 1/23 </font>

A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Mo

BlueSanta
01-24-2012, 06:57 AM
senior bowl notes that caught my eye from various sites.

1) I knew Russel Wilson wasnt a big guy. But 5'10 ...? Thats pretty short for this league. That will really hurt him. I was kinda hoping he would be over 5'11 because he has a decent arm and has looked good. Aparently the skins interviewed him for a very long time today. 1 thing he has working for him is abnormally large hands for a 5'10 guy.

2) Virtually every source I can find has Michael Engew lighting it up on the 1st day of practice. Scouts love his fluidity and ease at which he catches the ball. With the emergence of the TE/WR hybrid being the new "it" position in the NFL, expect this kids stock to keep going up if he keep practicing like this. Litterally, every scout praised him today.

3) Boise State RB Doug Martin came in wieghing more than I expected. 5'9 and 219 lbs. Reports say he didnt have an ounce of fat on him. Its crazy to me that he is that big. I watch him play and I think he is about 200lbs. I watch Chris Polk play and I think he is 240. Turns out, they wiegh about the same. That Blew my mind.

4) Isaiah Pead small hand size(8' 5/8) may be an issue and 1 scout worried about his small legs and frame. He needs to show good ball security or risk scaring some teams away. However, he did run well today. I read his cutback was very appealing. Pead, Polk and Martin all looked good today in various reports.

5) Unfortunately, a guy I was really rooting for , Kellen Moore has shown a complete lack of armstrength to play in the NFL. I read how he really struggled with the rt hash to left sideline out throw showing no velocity whatsoever. Unless he magically gains armstrength this week his chances at the next level may be all but over after just 1 day of practice. Multiple sources cited this issue. His throws hung in the air, were behind wrs, and lacked velocity. 1 scout noted that in order to make a sideline throw he had to throw it unrealisticly early in the WRs break in order for the ball to be there in time b4 the WRs went OB at the sideline. That is how long his ball was in the air.

6)According to SI, Brian Linthicum(TE michigan st.) looked very good today as well in both drills and scrimmage

7) More than 1 site mentioned Marvin Jones(wr cal.) as todays top performing WR. And a guy I think is very underrated TJ Graham(wr NCST) also looking very good.

8) 1 guy noted that Sean Spence(LB UofM) was underwelming at weigh in( i think he was refering to his hieght). Another guy noted that if he didnt know better he would think Sean is a cornerback. But, aparently Sean looked good in scrimmage. As did Nigel Bradham. I like both of these players very much.

9) It will be interesting to see what position Melvin Ingram ends up playing. Aparently he was difficult to block today. But his size is tweener LB or DE size. His short height and arms will have him falling dramatically on 43 team's boards and the likelyhood of him being a 34 olb is rising. Overall, his stock may have been hurt because of his odd build.

10) Aparently Quinton Couples impressed with his intelligence and demeanor as well as his build. He is another guy that may be a DE or may be a 34 OLB. 1 guy noted that quinton could easily add wieght to that frame and be a 43 DE, or he could stay as he is an be a 34 olb. This can only help his stock.

11) Aside from Kellen Moore, the next guy I see comming up on the negative side a lot of places was Alphonzo Dennard(cb Nebraska.) His compact build combined with stiff hips, 2 phrases you dont ever want to hear together when talking about a CB, were used more than a couple times in different places.

12) I was really looking for info on Markelle Martin(S, OSU) because he is a player I like very much. But, aside from the fact that he came into the senior bowl in eye poppingly good shape. I didnt see much info on his performance in practice.

I tried to stick with info on players that I found from multiple sources and ones that werent contradicted by another report. Ill come back when I have more.

bLuereverie
01-24-2012, 07:42 AM
Dennard looked pretty bad at practice, particularly in off man. Never thought he was a first rounder to begin with.

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 08:44 AM
senior bowl notes that caught my eye from various sites.

1) I knew Russel Wilson wasnt a big guy. But 5'10 ...? Thats pretty short for this league. That will really hurt him. I was kinda hoping he would be over 5'11 because he has a decent arm and has looked good. Aparently the skins interviewed him for a very long time today. 1 thing he has working for him is abnormally large hands for a 5'10 guy.

2) Virtually every source I can find has Michael Engew lighting it up on the 1st day of practice. Scouts love his fluidity and ease at which he catches the ball. With the emergence of the TE/WR hybrid being the new "it" position in the NFL, expect this kids stock to keep going up if he keep practicing like this. Litterally, every scout praised him today.

3) Boise State RB Doug Martin came in wieghing more than I expected. 5'9 and 219 lbs. Reports say he didnt have an ounce of fat on him. Its crazy to me that he is that big. I watch him play and I think he is about 200lbs. I watch Chris Polk play and I think he is 240. Turns out, they wiegh about the same. That Blew my mind.

4) Isaiah Pead small hand size(8' 5/8) may be an issue and 1 scout worried about his small legs and frame. He needs to show good ball security or risk scaring some teams away. However, he did run well today. I read his cutback was very appealing. Pead, Polk and Martin all looked good today in various reports.

5) Unfortunately, a guy I was really rooting for , Kellen Moore has shown a complete lack of armstrength to play in the NFL. I read how he really struggled with the rt hash to left sideline out throw showing no velocity whatsoever. Unless he magically gains armstrength this week his chances at the next level may be all but over after just 1 day of practice. Multiple sources cited this issue. His throws hung in the air, were behind wrs, and lacked velocity. 1 scout noted that in order to make a sideline throw he had to throw it unrealisticly early in the WRs break in order for the ball to be there in time b4 the WRs went OB at the sideline. That is how long his ball was in the air.

6)According to SI, Brian Linthicum(TE michigan st.) looked very good today as well in both drills and scrimmage

7) More than 1 site mentioned Marvin Jones(wr cal.) as todays top performing WR. And a guy I think is very underrated TJ Graham(wr NCST) also looking very good.

8) 1 guy noted that Sean Spence(LB UofM) was underwelming at weigh in( i think he was refering to his hieght). Another guy noted that if he didnt know better he would think Sean is a cornerback. But, aparently Sean looked good in scrimmage. As did Nigel Bradham. I like both of these players very much.

9) It will be interesting to see what position Melvin Ingram ends up playing. Aparently he was difficult to block today. But his size is tweener LB or DE size. His short height and arms will have him falling dramatically on 43 team's boards and the likelyhood of him being a 34 olb is rising. Overall, his stock may have been hurt because of his odd build.

10) Aparently Quinton Couples impressed with his intelligence and demeanor as well as his build. He is another guy that may be a DE or may be a 34 OLB. 1 guy noted that quinton could easily add wieght to that frame and be a 43 DE, or he could stay as he is an be a 34 olb. This can only help his stock.

11) Aside from Kellen Moore, the next guy I see comming up on the negative side a lot of places was Alphonzo Dennard(cb Nebraska.) His compact build combined with stiff hips, 2 phrases you dont ever want to hear together when talking about a CB, were used more than a couple times in different places.

12) I was really looking for info on Markelle Martin(S, OSU) because he is a player I like very much. But, aside from the fact that he came into the senior bowl in eye poppingly good shape. I didnt see much info on his performance in practice.

I tried to stick with info on players that I found from multiple sources and ones that werent contradicted by another report. Ill come back when I have more.


As i said yesterday I think Brian Linthicum is one of the most underrated TE's in this class.. I could see em going as early as RD 4.. All the RB's that looked good yesterday are all guys i really like in this incredibly deep RB class..

Tj Graham is a guy REDEYE and I both like as a sleeper WR.. He has mario manninghm type size and serious speed and could be a nice fit with us if were to lose mario this offseason...

Dennard is a guy i haven't really been impressed with from the jump.. It amazes me Casey Hayward has been perdicted to go way after him all this time.. I don't know what people need to see with Hayward to be sold on him but hes clearly one of the most underrated players in the country..

melvin ingram's size is very odd to say the least... I think matt mccants size will greatly help his stock as i do with Egnew and i think Janoris Jenkins Alphonso Dennard and melvin ingrams will hurt a bit..

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 08:45 AM
<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">wow were in the SB yet again and i get to do 2 </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mocks instead of 1.. Yippee!!lol We got a bunch of FA's this yr and guys who are gonna be co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ming off big injuries as well.. Also u add in guys like Osi whos all ready talked trade a bunch and Jacobs and Diehl who are guys who probably won't be back and all that </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">makes this one of the </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more i</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mportant drafts and off seasons in recent </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mory as there could be alot of change around here.. Ross/ Jacobs/ Osi/ TT/ Goff/ Blackburn/ Bernard/ Ballard/D Tho</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mas/ Carr/ Weahorford/ </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mario/ Tollefson/ Coe/</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mckenzie / pascoe(restricted)/ are all guys who could either be let go because of how </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much they </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make or traded(in osi's case) or are FA's in so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me capacity wheather its restricted or exculsive rights or a regular old FA.. That is alot of guys we gotta </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make decisons on going forward.. With that said Here is this weeks </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mock


1. Dwayne Allen TE Cle</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mson- Sticking with the guy who is the best at his positon offering us alot of bang for our buck picking this late in RD 1.. We could lose </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mario so adding another weapon for ELI isn't a bad idea.. Also Ballard has fell off due to injury and and theres just not a ton of depth at the positon for us..

2. Doug </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">martin RB Boise St- I don't think the bowling ball 5ft 9inch 219lb who can return kicks will </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make it to us in RD 3.. This guy catches it outta the backfield and has </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much exp bass blocking for Boises big passing offense and has solid speed. Hes got alot of si</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">milar attributes to Ray Rice and </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mjd..

3. Nate Potter G/T Boise St- </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">A Tackle for the broncos so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me see Potter going to G in the pros.. the giants covet oline</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">man that can </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">man </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">multiple positons and Potter has the possiblity to be a guy who can play every line positon outside of C in a pinch.. I see potter as a guy who isn't a stud in any one area but does </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">many things relatively well.. Hes got quick feet and long ar</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"></span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms and is a effective co</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mbo blocker.. I think hes got great value late RD 3..

4. Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College- Now that the positon is so deep with talent i could see Fletcher possibly there in RD 4 and hes got the size we covet at the positon and the value is there this late in RD 4 as well.. Also u add in the BC ties we've had over the yrs and with Coughlin fletcher could be a guy we'd look at in RD 4 if the draft plays out like i got it here..

5. Sean Cattouse SS California- A big and Stong SS who could fill the Deon Grant roll on this tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m very well.. Cattouse is one of </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my sleepers in this draft and i think the value is there for a RD 5 pick

6. De</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mario Davis OLB Arkansas St- This dude can ball! Bigti</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me hitter who can </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make plays against the pass and rush the passer when asked as well as a sure tackler that wraps up well and trys to punish ball carriers.. Davis could be a beast on ST's as he works his way into playing ti</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me as a
LB..</span>

7. Garth Gerhart C Arizona St- Underrated C in a pretty solid C class.. Hes got the size and expierence and could be a later round steal..
<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">6.
</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription"></span> Demario Davis added to Sr Bowl roster! Sweet!

tdawg1413
01-24-2012, 10:07 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





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2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e


Nyc, you mention a guy I absolutely want in Blue next year, Gerell Robinson. WR will only be a need if we lose Mario but Robinson has it all. He gets a little lazy at times which may be his only issue. He is big, has good speed and good hands. I can see us grabbing him in the 3rd or 4th round and that will be a steal IMO. Also, is it me or is Matt McCants a Will Beatty clone in terms of physique and ability. Before the draft, Beatty was listed at about 295 and then showed up to the combine at about 310. His stock rose to the point that we took him in Rd 2. I can see McCants going around the same time. Just a thought.

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 10:16 AM
senior bowl notes that caught my eye from various sites.

1) I knew Russel Wilson wasnt a big guy. But 5'10 ...? Thats pretty short for this league. That will really hurt him. I was kinda hoping he would be over 5'11 because he has a decent arm and has looked good. Aparently the skins interviewed him for a very long time today. 1 thing he has working for him is abnormally large hands for a 5'10 guy.

2) Virtually every source I can find has Michael Engew lighting it up on the 1st day of practice. Scouts love his fluidity and ease at which he catches the ball. With the emergence of the TE/WR hybrid being the new "it" position in the NFL, expect this kids stock to keep going up if he keep practicing like this. Litterally, every scout praised him today.*

3) Boise State RB Doug Martin came in wieghing more than I expected. 5'9 and 219 lbs. Reports say he didnt have an ounce of fat on him. Its crazy to me that he is that big. I watch him play and I think he is about 200lbs. I watch Chris Polk play and I think he is 240. Turns out, they wiegh about the same. That Blew my mind.

4) Isaiah Pead small hand size(8' 5/8) may be an issue and 1 scout worried about his small legs and frame. He needs to show good ball security or risk scaring some teams away. However,* he did run well today. I read his cutback was very appealing. Pead, Polk and Martin all looked good today in various reports.

5) Unfortunately, a guy I was really rooting for , Kellen Moore has shown a complete lack of armstrength to play in the NFL. I read how he really struggled with the rt hash to left sideline out throw showing no velocity whatsoever. Unless he magically gains armstrength this week his chances at the next level may be all but over after just 1 day of practice. Multiple sources cited this issue. His throws hung in the air, were behind wrs, and lacked velocity. 1 scout noted that in order to make a sideline throw he had to throw it unrealisticly early in the WRs break in order for the ball to be there in time b4 the WRs went OB at the sideline. That is how long his ball was in the air.

6)According to SI,* Brian Linthicum(TE michigan st.) looked very good today as well in both drills and scrimmage

7) More than 1 site mentioned Marvin Jones(wr cal.) as todays top performing WR. And a guy I think is very underrated TJ Graham(wr NCST) also looking very good.

8) 1 guy noted that Sean Spence(LB UofM) was underwelming at weigh in( i think he was refering to his hieght). Another guy noted that if he didnt know better he would think Sean is a cornerback. But, aparently Sean looked good in scrimmage. As did Nigel Bradham. I like both of these players very much.

9) It will be interesting to see what position Melvin Ingram ends up playing. Aparently he was difficult to block today. But his size is tweener LB or DE size. His short height and arms will have him falling dramatically on 43 team's boards and the likelyhood of him being a 34 olb is rising.* Overall, his stock may have been hurt because of his odd build.

10) Aparently Quinton Couples impressed with his intelligence and demeanor as well as his build. He is another guy that may be a DE or may be a 34 OLB. 1 guy noted that quinton could easily add wieght to that frame and be a 43 DE, or he could stay as he is an be a 34 olb. This can only help his stock.

11) Aside from Kellen Moore, the next guy I see comming up on the negative side a lot of places was Alphonzo Dennard(cb Nebraska.) His compact build combined with stiff hips, 2 phrases you dont ever want to hear together when talking about a CB, were used more than a couple times in different places.

12) I was really looking for info on Markelle Martin(S, OSU) because he is a player I like very much. But, aside from the fact that he came into the senior bowl in eye poppingly good shape. I* didnt see much info on his performance in practice.

I tried to stick with info on players that I found from multiple sources and ones that werent contradicted by another report.* Ill come back when I have more.

*
As i said yesterday** I think Brian Linthicum is one of the most underrated TE's in this class.. I could see em going as early as* RD 4..** All the RB's that looked good yesterday are all guys i really like* in this incredibly deep RB class..*

*Tj Graham is a guy REDEYE and I both like as a sleeper* WR..* He has mario manninghm type size and serious speed and could be a nice fit with us if were to lose mario this offseason...

Dennard is a guy i haven't really been impressed with from the jump.. It amazes me* Casey Hayward has been perdicted to go way after him all this time..* I don't know what people need to see with Hayward to be sold on him* but hes clearly one of the most underrated players in the country..

melvin ingram's size is very odd to say the least...* I think matt mccants size will greatly help his stock as i do with Egnew** and* i think Janoris Jenkins* Alphonso Dennard and melvin ingrams will hurt a bit..
MSU has so many good TE's on there roster kind of gets lost in the shuffle

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 10:34 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





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2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e


Nyc, you mention a guy I absolutely want in Blue next year, Gerell Robinson. WR will only be a need if we lose Mario but Robinson has it all. He gets a little lazy at times which may be his only issue. He is big, has good speed and good hands. I can see us grabbing him in the 3rd or 4th round and that will be a steal IMO. Also, is it me or is Matt McCants a Will Beatty clone in terms of physique and ability. Before the draft, Beatty was listed at about 295 and then showed up to the combine at about 310. His stock rose to the point that we took him in Rd 2. I can see McCants going around the same time. Just a thought.
Good comparison with Beatty and mccants.. But Beatty actually was thought to be a possible late 1st rd pick by some well before the draft and kinda fell to the end of the 2nd round.. But he definetly got there with the same attributes that mccants seems to have and its not surprising to see mccants now get in that 2nd round conversation with a very outside shot at very late 1st depending on his combine.. When u have Tackles with mcants upside and athletic ability its just a matter of time before they start rising and rising and the only way it gets hurt is if they screw themselves in these postseason all star games and combine.. I don't think Beatty really lit the world on fire at the combine if i remember correctly? Hence why i think he fell to us all the way at the end of RD 2.. Fair? Probably not but in todays NFL that combine holds a bit to much weight

I also agree about Gerrell Robinson.. Its kinda funny because when u watch him play and see his size and ability u kinda just wait to here what were hering now and that is that hes pretty good...lol I swear every yr i see a TON of these guys during the season perdicted to go in these crazy high rounds of the draft or not get talked about as any kinda serious prospect and i just sit back and wait for the RISE to take place...lol I said quite awhile ago that Whitney mercilus was gonna Rise in this yrs draft to being picked in the top 20 and now i look at mocks and see him gone by a Ton of people before pick 20 or at pick 20..lol Doug martin Casey Hayward Leonard Johnson and Bobby Wagner are guys that i felt similarly about and now u see em all in the RD 2 area

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 10:39 AM
senior bowl notes that caught my eye from various sites.

1) I knew Russel Wilson wasnt a big guy. But 5'10 ...? Thats pretty short for this league. That will really hurt him. I was kinda hoping he would be over 5'11 because he has a decent arm and has looked good. Aparently the skins interviewed him for a very long time today. 1 thing he has working for him is abnormally large hands for a 5'10 guy.

2) Virtually every source I can find has Michael Engew lighting it up on the 1st day of practice. Scouts love his fluidity and ease at which he catches the ball. With the emergence of the TE/WR hybrid being the new "it" position in the NFL, expect this kids stock to keep going up if he keep practicing like this. Litterally, every scout praised him today.

3) Boise State RB Doug Martin came in wieghing more than I expected. 5'9 and 219 lbs. Reports say he didnt have an ounce of fat on him. Its crazy to me that he is that big. I watch him play and I think he is about 200lbs. I watch Chris Polk play and I think he is 240. Turns out, they wiegh about the same. That Blew my mind.

4) Isaiah Pead small hand size(8' 5/8) may be an issue and 1 scout worried about his small legs and frame. He needs to show good ball security or risk scaring some teams away. However, he did run well today. I read his cutback was very appealing. Pead, Polk and Martin all looked good today in various reports.

5) Unfortunately, a guy I was really rooting for , Kellen Moore has shown a complete lack of armstrength to play in the NFL. I read how he really struggled with the rt hash to left sideline out throw showing no velocity whatsoever. Unless he magically gains armstrength this week his chances at the next level may be all but over after just 1 day of practice. Multiple sources cited this issue. His throws hung in the air, were behind wrs, and lacked velocity. 1 scout noted that in order to make a sideline throw he had to throw it unrealisticly early in the WRs break in order for the ball to be there in time b4 the WRs went OB at the sideline. That is how long his ball was in the air.

6)According to SI, Brian Linthicum(TE michigan st.) looked very good today as well in both drills and scrimmage

7) More than 1 site mentioned Marvin Jones(wr cal.) as todays top performing WR. And a guy I think is very underrated TJ Graham(wr NCST) also looking very good.

8) 1 guy noted that Sean Spence(LB UofM) was underwelming at weigh in( i think he was refering to his hieght). Another guy noted that if he didnt know better he would think Sean is a cornerback. But, aparently Sean looked good in scrimmage. As did Nigel Bradham. I like both of these players very much.

9) It will be interesting to see what position Melvin Ingram ends up playing. Aparently he was difficult to block today. But his size is tweener LB or DE size. His short height and arms will have him falling dramatically on 43 team's boards and the likelyhood of him being a 34 olb is rising. Overall, his stock may have been hurt because of his odd build.

10) Aparently Quinton Couples impressed with his intelligence and demeanor as well as his build. He is another guy that may be a DE or may be a 34 OLB. 1 guy noted that quinton could easily add wieght to that frame and be a 43 DE, or he could stay as he is an be a 34 olb. This can only help his stock.

11) Aside from Kellen Moore, the next guy I see comming up on the negative side a lot of places was Alphonzo Dennard(cb Nebraska.) His compact build combined with stiff hips, 2 phrases you dont ever want to hear together when talking about a CB, were used more than a couple times in different places.

12) I was really looking for info on Markelle Martin(S, OSU) because he is a player I like very much. But, aside from the fact that he came into the senior bowl in eye poppingly good shape. I didnt see much info on his performance in practice.

I tried to stick with info on players that I found from multiple sources and ones that werent contradicted by another report. Ill come back when I have more.


As i said yesterday I think Brian Linthicum is one of the most underrated TE's in this class.. I could see em going as early as RD 4.. All the RB's that looked good yesterday are all guys i really like in this incredibly deep RB class..

Tj Graham is a guy REDEYE and I both like as a sleeper WR.. He has mario manninghm type size and serious speed and could be a nice fit with us if were to lose mario this offseason...

Dennard is a guy i haven't really been impressed with from the jump.. It amazes me Casey Hayward has been perdicted to go way after him all this time.. I don't know what people need to see with Hayward to be sold on him but hes clearly one of the most underrated players in the country..

melvin ingram's size is very odd to say the least... I think matt mccants size will greatly help his stock as i do with Egnew and i think Janoris Jenkins Alphonso Dennard and melvin ingrams will hurt a bit..
MSU has so many good TE's on there roster kind of gets lost in the shuffle Well to be fair Linthicum didn't have a great yr(didn't even score) but he certainly flashed at times and in the right system i could see him being very valuable.. Hes gonna be one of those guys that has a better pro career then college career once he puts it all together..

tdawg1413
01-24-2012, 10:41 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





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2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e


Nyc, you mention a guy I absolutely want in Blue next year, Gerell Robinson. WR will only be a need if we lose Mario but Robinson has it all. He gets a little lazy at times which may be his only issue. He is big, has good speed and good hands. I can see us grabbing him in the 3rd or 4th round and that will be a steal IMO. Also, is it me or is Matt McCants a Will Beatty clone in terms of physique and ability. Before the draft, Beatty was listed at about 295 and then showed up to the combine at about 310. His stock rose to the point that we took him in Rd 2. I can see McCants going around the same time. Just a thought.
Good comparison with Beatty and mccants.. But Beatty actually was thought to be a possible late 1st rd pick by some well before the draft and kinda fell to the end of the 2nd round.. But he definetly got there with the same attributes that mccants seems to have and its not surprising to see mccants now get in that 2nd round conversation with a very outside shot at very late 1st depending on his combine.. When u have Tackles with mcants upside and athletic ability its just a matter of time before they start rising and rising and the only way it gets hurt is if they screw themselves in these postseason all star games and combine.. I don't think Beatty really lit the world on fire at the combine if i remember correctly? Hence why i think he fell to us all the way at the end of RD 2.. Fair? Probably not but in todays NFL that combine holds a bit to much weight

I also agree about Gerrell Robinson.. Its kinda funny because when u watch him play and see his size and ability u kinda just wait to here what were hering now and that is that hes pretty good...lol I swear every yr i see a TON of these guys during the season perdicted to go in these crazy high rounds of the draft or not get talked about as any kinda serious prospect and i just sit back and wait for the RISE to take place...lol I said quite awhile ago that Whitney mercilus was gonna Rise in this yrs draft to being picked in the top 20 and now i look at mocks and see him gone by a Ton of people before pick 20 or at pick 20..lol Doug martin Casey Hayward Leonard Johnson and Bobby Wagner are guys that i felt similarly about and now u see em all in the RD 2 area


You could be right but I could swear that Beatty was originally thought to be around a late 3rd-early 4th before the draft process began. I could be wrong. Either way, they are similar to me in their abilities.
As an ASU college football fan, I saw a lot of Robinson. He has what a pro WR needs. Size, good speed, and YAC ability. He was projected somewhere around the 4th and 5th on most sites but I can see him moving into the last 2nd-early 3rd conversation.
I am also very high now on Lavonte David. I know he is undersized but he is a playmaker at the LB position. A good fit for our D as well.

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 10:56 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors.php) - 1/23 </font>

2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e


Nyc, you mention a guy I absolutely want in Blue next year, Gerell Robinson. WR will only be a need if we lose Mario but Robinson has it all. He gets a little lazy at times which may be his only issue. He is big, has good speed and good hands. I can see us grabbing him in the 3rd or 4th round and that will be a steal IMO. Also, is it me or is Matt McCants a Will Beatty clone in terms of physique and ability. Before the draft, Beatty was listed at about 295 and then showed up to the combine at about 310. His stock rose to the point that we took him in Rd 2. I can see McCants going around the same time. Just a thought.
Good comparison with Beatty and mccants.. But Beatty actually was thought to be a possible late 1st rd pick by some well before the draft and kinda fell to the end of the 2nd round.. But he definetly got there with the same attributes that mccants seems to have and its not surprising to see mccants now get in that 2nd round conversation with a very outside shot at very late 1st depending on his combine.. When u have Tackles with mcants upside and athletic ability its just a matter of time before they start rising and rising and the only way it gets hurt is if they screw themselves in these postseason all star games and combine.. I don't think Beatty really lit the world on fire at the combine if i remember correctly? Hence why i think he fell to us all the way at the end of RD 2.. Fair? Probably not but in todays NFL that combine holds a bit to much weight

I also agree about Gerrell Robinson.. Its kinda funny because when u watch him play and see his size and ability u kinda just wait to here what were hering now and that is that hes pretty good...lol I swear every yr i see a TON of these guys during the season perdicted to go in these crazy high rounds of the draft or not get talked about as any kinda serious prospect and i just sit back and wait for the RISE to take place...lol I said quite awhile ago that Whitney mercilus was gonna Rise in this yrs draft to being picked in the top 20 and now i look at mocks and see him gone by a Ton of people before pick 20 or at pick 20..lol Doug martin Casey Hayward Leonard Johnson and Bobby Wagner are guys that i felt similarly about and now u see em all in the RD 2 area


You could be right but I could swear that Beatty was originally thought to be around a late 3rd-early 4th before the draft process began. I could be wrong. Either way, they are similar to me in their abilities.
As an ASU college football fan, I saw a lot of Robinson. He has what a pro WR needs. Size, good speed, and YAC ability. He was projected somewhere around the 4th and 5th on most sites but I can see him moving into the last 2nd-early 3rd conversation.
I am also very high now on Lavonte David. I know he is undersized but he is a playmaker at the LB position. A good fit for our D as well.
Well Beatty was a late bloomer and it took awhile for people to catch on( i actuall knew nothing about em till late in the season when i started seeing his name pop up in the 2nd rd) and then before u knew it he was quickly perdicted as a late 1st round/ early 2nd round prospect heading into the draft and for some reason feel to us suprisingly at the very end of RD 2.. I just remember seeing Beatty as a 1st rounder for awhile to the point it shocked me more that he was around when we picked then it would of if he wasen't...

Lavonte David is a guy who certainly would help with out overall team speed on Defense but Jaquain Williams seems to be doing just fine right now and i would think is in our plans as the Future WLB for us at least going into next yr... I would be surprised if we went WLB in the early rounds with the emergence of the still getting better Jaquain Williams.. I actually think Jaquain could of been a 2nd rd pick this yr had he stayed at USF .. The only reason he was around so late is that he didn't have a big enough body of work and had he stayed one more yr it would of been big enough and he'd of been a sure fire 2nd rounder(i think).. So really we got a 2nd rd pick a yr early lol

critters
01-24-2012, 11:27 AM
Heres some ridiculously good info "LIVE" from the sr bowl from the boys over at walter football.. They have great insight and are alot closer to the players then some around here give credit for as they go to the sr bowl and combine .. They even let us know what teams are talking to who albeit in the very early stages.. my guy Doug martin was said to be super ripped and i really think that kids gonna be special! Also Gerrell Robinson WR Arz St tore it up yesterday beating a handful of soon to be NFL CB's.. His stock has to be on the rise.. Casey Hayward also was said to be ripped and as a guy i've raved about u add in a good physique with awesome on field play both against the run and pass in the tough SEC and i just don't see how its possible he dosen't get into the 2nd rd and possibly the 1st by Draft time.. I wonder if Janoris Jenkins HT is gonna hurt him? Also i was bummed to see Bobby Wagners HT only at 6ft.. I really like him a ton! Anyhow take alook at all this info its some great reading!
A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Monday's Senior Bowl practice.





<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors.php) - 1/23 </font>

2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which quarterback the Redskins spent a lot of time with.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Weigh-In Analysis (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012weighin.php) - 1/23 </font>

We have the measurements, but how did each prospect look at the weigh-in? Who needs to hit the gym?






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice1.php) - 1/23 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Monday with outside analysis.e


Glad to see one of my targets doing good:

"Washington offensive tackle Senio Kelemete won two reps against Penn
State defensive end Jack Crawford. The first rep saw Kelemete stop a
bull rush dead on. The second attempt was a speed rush that Kelemete
mirrored well."

I also expect some good reviews of Dequan Menzie to be coming soon. Really want to get this guy.

slipknottin
01-24-2012, 12:37 PM
I really, really like this George Iloka kid.

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 12:43 PM
I really, really like this George Iloka kid.i started to cut up some games of him but it doesnt do any justice because I can only see him like 15 snaps

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 12:44 PM
I really, really like this George Iloka kid.If he runs a 4.4 at that size he very well could go late first round in this draft

slipknottin
01-24-2012, 12:46 PM
I really, really like this George Iloka kid.If he runs a 4.4 at that size he very well could go late first round in this draft

I think he goes 2nd. If hes there at the giants pick in the 2nd I think its an easy decision.

This, IMO, is the guy you want to cover the Gronks/Grahams of the world.

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 12:55 PM
I really, really like this George Iloka kid.If he runs a 4.4 at that size he very well could go late first round in this draft

I think he goes 2nd. If hes there at the giants pick in the 2nd I think its an easy decision.

This, IMO, is the guy you want to cover the Gronks/Grahams of the world.Its a need for the Giants. can fill that spot when Chad Jones went down

Raptor22
01-24-2012, 01:16 PM
I really, really like this George Iloka kid.If he runs a 4.4 at that size he very well could go late first round in this draft

I think he goes 2nd. If hes there at the giants pick in the 2nd I think its an easy decision.

This, IMO, is the guy you want to cover the Gronks/Grahams of the world.Its a need for the Giants. can fill that spot when Chad Jones went down

Scouting report per National Football Post:


A tall, long limbed safety prospect who possesses good body
control/balance for a defensive back his size. He keeps his feet under
him in coverage, is patient in his drop and does a nice job keeping his
pad level down when asked to turn and run. Obviously it takes him a bit
to get back up to full speed, but he plays like a 4.5 guy when asked to
turn, run and track the football. Iloka will waste a step when trying to
re-direct and get out of his breaks in tight areas. He doesn't need to
chop his feet, but isn't as clean as you would like from a free safety
trying to get in and out of his breaks. He'll line up in the slot and
play some press man at times, using his length well to re-route
receivers and stay low in his drop. To his credit, once he collects
himself he does have a burst when closing on the football. Instincts and
overall feel of reading routes and feeling receivers around him are
only average, can be late to react to the throw at times. However,
because of his coverage ability -has experience playing corner at the
college level- looks like a guy who can be physical with a tight end off
the snap and stay in his back pocket at the next level.

He
showcases good thump as a tackler using his length well to wrap, but he
doesn't consistently finish on the play. He struggles with balance at
times when asked to break down and doesn't change directions well at
full speed when attacking downhill. He will take some poor angles and
get side stepped in space and at times. And his angles in the box can be
suspect.

Impression: Iloka is a tall kid with solid balance for
his size and has some natural athleticism and pop. Has experience
playing corner and being a physical press coverage man. However, he
isn't a guy who can quickly re-direct and close on the football in the
deep half. He needs to play with his hands on defenders, but is a more
coordinated bigger safety than say Seahawks starter Kam Chancellor and
he could start at the next level.

deekay7685
01-24-2012, 03:09 PM
tj graham is said to have poor hands. pure speed guy. much better returner than wideout.
doug martin is said not to be a good blocker.
i would look for chris polk in the 2nd round, he is the best all around rb after richardson.

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 08:30 PM
tj graham is said to have poor hands. pure speed guy. much better returner than wideout.
doug martin is said not to be a good blocker.
i would look for chris polk in the 2nd round, he is the best all around rb after richardson. I read that polk was the worst blocker of the rb group today

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 08:30 PM
Heres a live report outta practice today



<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl: Tuesday North Practice Report </font>




By Charlie Campbell - @draftcampbell (http://twitter.com/draftcampbell)





The North team took to the field of Ladd Peebles Stadium for their
second practice of Senior Bowl on Tuesday morning. The Minnesota Vikings
coaching staff was in charge of the North team and they had the players
practicing in full pads. Tuesday and Wednesday are the full-padded
sessions. To start out practice they worked on special teams and in
their individual position groups.



During the practice and beforehand, Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler spent a
lot of time working at center. Zeitler played next to the best center
in college football in Peter Konz, so he didn't see any game action at
the position as a collegiate player the past few years. If Zeitler can
show NFL teams that he has the capacity to play some center, that could
give his draft stock a boost.



During the individual period the linebackers worked on their footwork.
Nebraska linebacker Lavonte David has extremely quick feet, and David
stood out above the other linebackers. North Carolina State linebacker
Audie Cole is a little stiff. He probably would fit best as an inside
linebacker in the 3-4. Boise State outside linebacker Shea McClellin was
surprisingly athletic.



After the individual period, the linebackers went to a one-on-one
scrimmage against running backs, fullbacks and tight ends in blitz
protection. Overall the linebackers have the advantage in this drill,
but there were players who stood out on both sides of the ball. Here is a
scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:



<div class="article"> David started the session by blasting Wisconsin fullback Bradie
Ewing. The hit from David was extremely hard and rocked Ewing off
balance. That allowed the speedy David to jet by him for the victory.
David ran through Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead on a rush. David
blasted Washington running back Chris Polk to the ground for another
win. The only player who beat David was Massachusetts tight end Emil
Igwenagu. He rode David around the outside on a speed rush.



Other than David, the other linebacker to really standout
was Cole. He beat Polk with a swim move, dodged Ewing with a jab step,
and defeated Ohio State running back Boom Herron with a power swim move.
Cole lost a rep to Missouri tight end Michael Egnew when he rode him
around the pocket.



Utah State linebacker Bobby Wagner shed a block from Boise
State's Doug Martin before getting to the marker. Wagner bull rushed
through Polk for a victory.



Nevada linebacker James-Michael Johnson had a resounding
win when he ran over Herron on one rush. Johnson also had wins against
Ewing and Igwenagu.



Ewing lost a number of reps but he also had a win against Boise State's Shea McClellin when he rode him around the pocket.



McClellin destroyed Herron on a power rush.



Pead stuffed Johnson on one rush. Of the running backs,
Pead has the best technique in fitting up on blitzers and getting in
good position. Even in his losses he fought well.



Pead and Martin were the two running backs who performed
the best in their position group. Polk had an ugly session, while Herron
was beat with ease. Both Pead and Martin are helping their draft stock
with showing the potential to be trusted third-down running backs.







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The wide receivers and cornerbacks went against each other in
one-on-ones. Overall the defensive backs fared better than they did on
Monday, but wideouts have an advantage in this drill as they know the
route and the cornerback has no safety help. Here is a run down of some
of the one-on-one action:



Iowa wide receiver Marvin McNutt is a polished route-runner
and he had a good session. McNutt had wins against Iowa State
cornerback Leonard Johnson, Nebraska cornerback Alfonzo Dennard and Cal
Poly cornerback Asa Jackson. McNutt executes the slant route extremely
well and that worked to get open against those cornerbacks. On a deep
post, McNutt had a step on Boston College cornerback Donnie Fletcher,
but McNutt couldn't get a handle on a pass thrown behind him. It was a
catch he probably should've made.



A real standout so far has been Cal wide receiver Marvin
Jones. He beat Dennard on a deep pass along the sideline for a big catch
downfield. Jones burned Johnson on a slant route and got a good deal of
space to come open. On Monday and Tuesday, Jones has shown quickness in
and out of his breaks to get separation from defensive backs.



Dennard hasn't had a strong week. At times he hasn't done
well in turning and running with receivers. Dennard did have a win when
he forced an incompletion on a quick out to North Carolina State wide
receiver T.J. Graham. This environment isn't the best for Dennard as he
performs better in the games when he is playing within a scheme. This
week could bump his stock down.



Ohio State wide receiver DeVier Posey didn't impress and had a bad dropped pass.



Fletcher had a good session overall. He almost had a diving
interception after Appalachian State wide receiver Brian Quick slipped
on the play. Fletcher had tight coverage on Gerell Robinson on an out
route and forced a bobbled pass that went incomplete as Robinson went
out of bounds.




The defensive line and offensive lines battled in one-on-ones, and there
are definitely some prospects who are really helping themselves. The
defensive line has a bigger advantage in this drill because they don't
have to play the run before rushing the passer like they do in many
plays in an actual game. They also don't take on any double teams or
have to overcome a chip from a running back or tight end. Here is a
scorecard of some of the one-on-one action:



On two reps, Connecticut defensive tackle Kendall Reyes
beat Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler with a speed rush. Reyes had a really
good day. He also bull rushed Wake Forest guard Joe Looney to get to
the quarterback marker.



Looney was a late addition to the Senior Bowl, and he had a
horrible debut practice. He was bull rushed twice by Washington
defensive tackle Alameda Ta'amu. The big nose tackle had no problem
pushing Looney onto the marker. It is tough for players to come in late,
but Looney showed no strength to anchor.



Zeitler had a win when he stonewalled a bull rush from
Boise State defensive tackle Billy Winn, but he also had a rare loss to a
bull rush courtesy of Ta'amu.



One of the biggest stars on Tuesday was Michigan defensive
tackle Mike Martin. He abused Ohio State center Mike Brewster on
multiple reps. He had a few wins on bull rushes and got one win after he
rocked Brewster onto his heels before jetting by the center. It was an
impressive day from Martin and a disappointing day for Brewster. There
was a win for Brewster when he rode Ta'amu around the middle of the
pocket on a bull rush.



Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams is a potential
first-round pick but he is very inconsistent. He can look great and
terrible in back-to-back plays. His first rep was a loss as Virginia
defensive end Cam Johnson blew by him on a speed rush. Penn State
defensive Jack Crawford did the same thing. Adams rebounded to get some
wins including a rush that he stopped cold from Johnson. Adams is a more
advanced run blocker than pass blocker entering the next level.



Overall Cincinnati defensive end Derek Wolfe showed well in
the one-on-ones. It started slowly when he got pushed around in an ugly
fashion by Iowa State tackle/guard Kelechi Osemele. Osemele shoved
Wolfe off balance and into the ground. Wolfe bull rushed Penn State's
Johnnie Troutman on one rep to get a win. In the rematch Wolfe beat
Troutman with a speed rush around the edge. Wolfe beat Washington
offensive tackle Senio Kelemete with a bull rush.



Osemele had an impressive win when he stopped a spin move
dead in its tracks from Marshall's Vinny Curry. After a tough opening
day, Osemele played much better on Tuesday.



Kelemete battled tough with some wins and losses. He had a
win on one rep against Curry. After some initial penetration, Kelemete
recovered to keep Curry at bay. Curry beat Kelemete with a speed edge
rush to close out the one-on-ones.



In the team scrimmage portion of practice, Martin continued to stand
out. He burst through the line to blow up one run early on. Martin kept
coming and stuffed Polk at the line of scrimmage after Martin beat Utah
guard Tony Bergstrom. Don't be surprised if you hear about Martin being
one of the stars of Senior Bowl.



There were a few other notable events in Monday's practice. In the team
scrimmage McClellin got a sack on a speed rush around the corner.
Wisconsin quarterback Russell Wilson overthrew tight end Michael Egnew
running down the middle of the field after Egnew got a step on Nevada
linebacker James-Michael Johnson. Cousins was intercepted by Boise State
safety George Iloka after he undercut a pass intended for Igwenagu. It
was a good read and break on the ball by Iloka. The quarterbacks did not
impress on Tuesday. Cousins is the best prospect of the bunch. All of
them had fumbled snaps, especially Boise State's Kellen Moore, who
wasn't under center much in college. </div>

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 08:37 PM
I love some Audie Cole! I hope either he or Bobby Wagner end up in Blue

<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl: Tuesday North Practice Report </font>







http://www.walterfootball.com/college/NCState_logo.gif Audie Cole, ILB, N.C. State


Audie Cole is having a really good week thus far. He looked solid in
full pads, and as DraftCountdown's Scott Wright described, "[Cole is]
rangy and athletic with good speed and quick feet."






http://www.walterfootball.com/college/MichiganState_logo.gif Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State


The consensus is that Kirk Cousins has been the most impressive
quarterback on the North Team despite an interception to George Iloka,
with Russell Wilson being a close second (more on that later). Kellen
Moore hasn't done anything to change the popular belief that he's just a
backup at the next level.








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http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Marshall_logo.gif Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall


Vinny Curry came into this week as a second-round prospect, and it
appears that won't change. He's had some good and some bad moments in
the one-on-one drills.



"He has a little bit of stiffness to him, but he has the effort,
athleticism and motor to rush the passer," said Mike Mayock. "I'm
hearing a lot a second-round grade."







http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Nebraska_logo.gif Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska


Alfonzo Dennard really struggled on Monday. He was much better Tuesday,
though he was used at nickel pretty often, which might ultimately be his
position at the next level.



Mike Mayock likened Dennard's body type to Prince Amukamara's, but
really questioned his ball skills. That's not surprising, as Dennard had
four career interceptions at Nebraska.










http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Michigan_logo.gif Mike Martin, DT, Michigan


An entertaining portion of Tuesday's practice was a brief fight between
Mike Brewster and Mike Martin. Martin beat Brewster twice (was held
once), which angered the declining Ohio State center. Martin is really
helping himself with a strong week. I'll be shocked if he doesn't make
it into the top three rounds of my 2012 NFL Mock Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php), which will be updated tonight.





http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Washington_logo.gif Chris Polk, RB, Washington


I haven't talked about the running backs much, but Chris Polk has been a
major disappointment this week. Charlie has more on this in his Tuesday
Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice4.php).

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 08:42 PM
tj graham is said to have poor hands. pure speed guy. much better returner than wideout.
doug martin is said not to be a good blocker.
i would look for chris polk in the 2nd round, he is the best all around rb after richardson. I read that polk was the worst blocker of the rb group today
.They rarely use him in in pass protection.has the size for it though.Could be a problem seeing the field though in year 1.Guys like Pead and Martin are much better blockers

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 08:47 PM
tj graham is said to have poor hands. pure speed guy. much better returner than wideout.
doug martin is said not to be a good blocker.
i would look for chris polk in the 2nd round, he is the best all around rb after richardson.TJ Graham isnt that bad of a receiver People were down on his skills before the season but I dont see it anymore he has improved.Shows a good feel to find the hole in zone coverage.he is blazing fast as well.

Doug martin needs to improve his blocking but almost all college RB's do. he is a willing blocker and shows the attitude for it.Once he gets with an NFL coaching staff im convinced he will be fine. Similar RB to Ahmad Bradshaw in some ways

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 09:05 PM
tj graham is said to have poor hands. pure speed guy. much better returner than wideout.
doug martin is said not to be a good blocker.
i would look for chris polk in the 2nd round, he is the best all around rb after richardson.TJ Graham isnt that bad of a receiver People were down on his skills before the season but I dont see it anymore he has improved.Shows a good feel to find the hole in zone coverage.he is blazing fast as well.

Doug martin needs to improve his blocking but almost all college RB's do. he is a willing blocker and shows the attitude for it.Once he gets with an NFL coaching staff im convinced he will be fine. Similar RB to Ahmad Bradshaw in some ways Doug martin is faster then Bradshaw.. If martin runs a sub 450 at the combine with that 5ft 9in 219lb frame and the ability to catch outta the backfield and return kicks if needed watch the F out!!!lol Seriously Doug martin is eerily similar to Ray Rice and mjd

Redeyejedi
01-24-2012, 09:18 PM
<FONT color=#1c62b9>Quinton Coples vs Missouri</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCzaIhsHLK4) </P>


<FONT color=#1c62b9>Whitney Mercilus vs UCLA</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60fJEcIF1h8) </P>


Melvin Ingram vs Nebraska (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKPpjctGhBo)</P>

nycsportzfan
01-24-2012, 09:22 PM
<font color="#1c62b9">Quinton Coples vs Missouri</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCzaIhsHLK4) </p>


<font color="#1c62b9">Whitney Mercilus vs UCLA</font> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60fJEcIF1h8) </p>


Melvin Ingram vs Nebraska (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKPpjctGhBo)</p>mercilus was scary dominant against UCLA!

BlueSanta
01-24-2012, 09:44 PM
Something I heard today was that scouts were getting annoyed with Nick Saban and the Alabama program. I guess they have a bad habbit of fibbing on stat sheets about guys size. I knew some teams did this, but aparently a vast majority of players Alabama has sent to the senior bowl as well as the combine over the last couple years has been over and inch, and sometime much more, shorter than his listed height.

Its more anecdotal than anything, but scouts feel it also brings doubt into the other positive things Bama coaches say about their players.

The biggest offender? Marquis Maze. Listed at 5' 10" in the bama program. Yet he measures only 5'7 at weigh ins.

BlueSanta
01-24-2012, 09:54 PM
another interesting note.

1 guy noted that the only team he had not seen interview any players yet was.......

The New York Giants.


He did say that he may have missed it, but that even if he had, The Giant have been the least active interviewer.

Raptor22
01-24-2012, 11:00 PM
One of the biggest stars on Tuesday was Michigan defensive
tackle Mike Martin. He abused Ohio State center Mike Brewster on
multiple reps. He had a few wins on bull rushes and got one win after he
rocked Brewster onto his heels before jetting by the center. It was an
impressive day from Martin and a disappointing day for Brewster. There
was a win for Brewster when he rode Ta'amu around the middle of the
pocket on a bull rush.


An entertaining portion of Tuesday's practice was a brief fight between
Mike Brewster and Mike Martin. Martin beat Brewster twice (was held
once), which angered the declining Ohio State center. Martin is really
helping himself with a strong week. I'll be shocked if he doesn't make
it into the top three rounds of my 2012 NFL Mock Draft (http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php), which will be updated tonight.

I've been saying that Martin is a guy to keep an eye on. He had a down year, but I love the way he plays. Kinda reminds me of a white Suh. What he may lack in technique, he more than makes up for with power, explosion, and hustle.

slipknottin
01-24-2012, 11:38 PM
I really thought Martin was a very linear player on tape. But from all reports from the senior bowl, he has much more lateral ability than I expected

lawl
01-25-2012, 12:58 AM
Mayock has Kirkpatrick as his #5 cb

slipknottin
01-25-2012, 01:33 AM
Mayock has Kirkpatrick as his #5 cb

could be because of his arrest.

lawl
01-25-2012, 01:50 AM
Mayock has Kirkpatrick as his #5 cb

could be because of his arrest.

Yea, idk why, but definitely thought it was worth mentioning when I saw that

DragonSoul
01-25-2012, 03:28 AM
so who might be there for us as BAP @ pick 31/32?

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 05:24 AM
Heres a bunch of reports from yesterdays practices also giving details of what teams were talking to what players and stuff like that..

<font size="3">2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012rumors2.php) - 1/24 </font>

2012 Senior Bowl Rumor Mill. Find out which team has major interest in Mike Adams.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice6.php) - 1/24 </font>

Charlie's detailed 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Tuesday's South practice with one-on-one winners.







<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Prospect Meetings Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012meetings3.php) - 1/24 </font>

A list of teams and prospects that met with each other after Tuesday's Senior Bowl South practice.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice5.php) - 1/24 </font>

My 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Tuesday (South) with outside analysis.






<font size="3"> 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report (http://www.walterfootball.com/seniorbowl2012practice4.php) - 1/24 </font>

Charlie's detailed 2012 Senior Bowl Practice Report from Tuesday's North practice with one-on-one winners.

BlueSanta
01-25-2012, 05:53 AM
What I have for today, some are carry overs from day 1...

1) Kirk Cousins has been the best performing QB. Scouts are liking his arm. Kellen Moore's continues to struggle at any throw downfield or sideline. I think at this point his chances of being drafted are slim and narrowed down only to west coast teams. He has looked very intelligent and accurate on short throws but it was noted that today he was trying extra hard to put umph on downfield throws and it was negatively effecting his mechanics. Wilson, a guy who's measurables had scouts worried yesterday, seems to be doing pretty well. He has had some flashes of briliance. I have read more than once that scouts love his high release point, a necessity for a short guy.

2) Prolly the biggest day 2 loser was Chris Polk(RB Washington.) This was dissapointing to see. Aparently ,they spent a lot of time in pass protection among RBs and Polk consistently lost battles and showed poor technique. More than 1 scout refered to him as slow. It was noted that it took him too long to acclerate and that at max speed he ran very upright.

3) Isaiah Pead, a guy who had scouts worried at the weigh in yesterday, has done well for himself. A couple ppl have said he is the best all around performing back so far. He even showed some fight in picking up blocks.

4) Doug martin and Dan Herron have also shown well for themselves running the ball. Speaking of backs, the bengals have spent a large bulk of their time interviewing backs. They spent a lot of time with Martin and Pead.

5) Jeff Allen(T Illinois) struggled today in many of the matchups he faced. His stock has dropped.

6) Aparently Dwight Jones (Wr NC) has really struggled getting off the LoS in press coverage. Thats not good for a big WR.

7) 1 scout noted that Marquis Maze, even though he hasnt been on the field that much, has hurt himelf. He has come across immature in conversations. He also appeared overwieght....

8) It wasnt a good day for the TEs. Igwenagu dropped 2 easy completions and has struggled. Egnew isnt a blocker(we kinda knew that) although he did ok vs speed rushers. It was the bulls who trounced em.

9) Qinton Coples and Courtney Upshaw have had their way with whoever lines up against them. Coples is reportedly showing more technique than expected to go with his raw athleticism and Upshaw is aparently unstoppably powerful. Upshaw was the best as far as setting the edge and keeping contain as well. 1 guy said he is James Harrison jr. Its been said though, that these 2 really outclass anyone lined up against them and therefor its hard to evaluate both sides.

10) Lastly, it would be a mistake to forget to mention the CBs. Most feel the defensive talent on the field this week overshadows the offensive talent. At no position is this more evident than in the defensive backfield. 3 guys names came up repeatedly. Casey Heyward, Jamell Flemming, and George Iioka. George has been a hot topic aparently. The conversation revolving around what position he will play in the NFL. Coming into this week everyone said "No a 6' 4 guy cant be a corner." But, he is showing cover skills. I still think he may end up as a safety in the NFL but someone is going to reach for this kid because he is so versatile. This is a kid who can cover those hybrid TE/WRwe see popping up around the league. He may be a mold breaker too. He aparently had a highlight interception today that was the play of the day. Flemming and Heyward have been blanketting WRs in 1v1 and in scrimmage since getting to mobile.The major exception is still Alphonzo Dennard, who struggles covering when he has to turn and run. He had 1 nice play today, and plays well as long as the ball is in front of him and he doesnt have to turn his hips.

shuld be more info on south guys tomorrow...

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 05:56 AM
Mayock has Kirkpatrick as his #5 cb

could be because of his arrest. That and the lack of big plays probably both played a part in it.. To be honest i don't love Dre Kirkpatrick either.. With such a deep class of CB I could possibly see a few teams pass on Kirkpatrick in hopes of landing a Dequan menzie/ Casey Hayward/ Leonard Johnson/ Brandon Boykin/ Jayron Hosley/ Josh Norman/ Jamell Fleming/ Ryan Steed/ Chase minnifield/ Shaun Prater/ Donnie Fletcher/ Cliff Harris Later on.. The guy just wasen't a diffrence maker and when your talking TOP 15pick He better be a clear cut better then the rest prospect.. I think the CB positon in this yrs draft outside of morris claiborne is really even.. I actually got CASEY HAYWARD as my number 2 CB in this yrs draft.. Alot of people might dissagree but that kid does it all and if he even runs just a decent time at the combine i could see him going in the early 2nd.. Hes just to good for teams to not catch on to by draft time.. I give him the best shot at being this yrs "kareem Jackson" as a CB that surprises and rises into 1st round(all though its just a hunch)

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 06:19 AM
so who might be there for us as BAP @ pick 31/32? Alot of players at this point that could be there.. As of now this is probably the top 5or so guys i think have at least a possiblity of being there when we pick.

Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Explosive TE that is a complete TE and would give us a great 1/2 punch with Jake Ballard at the positon

Fletcher Cox DT miss st- I'd be surprised if he were there but he could be and i'd think with Rock Bernard being a FA and Canty getting alittle long in the tooth and Austin missing 2straight yrs of development he'd be on there list of possibles...

mike adams OT Ohio St- Hes gonna rise well into the mid 1st rd stages becuase of his long arms/big hands and perfect body type(6ft 7in 323lb) solid competiton and potential of sticking at LT in the pro's but if he is somehow there when we pick its hard to imagine the GIANTS not pouncing on him as we only have Beatty and Brewer for the Tackle positon once we let Diehl go after the season as a cap casualty.. Adams would be a bigtime asset in the Run Game..

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- Obviously the potential is there for this kid to be a total dominating force in the NFL but he came up short this past yr and really didn't look good.. Hes tabbed as a head case and its gonna take a good coaching job to get this kid right in the head.. COughlin and Crew could be the right coaches for the job and picking at the end of RD 1 a guy with Burficts potential at a positon of need is tough to pass up..

Chase minnifield CB Virginia- Kinda a long shot at going CB again this yr but Ross and TT are both FA's and we seen how quick your depth can be depleted through injury.. I could see a guy like chase/ Janoris Jenkins or a sleeper Casey Hayward possibly going to us at the end of RD 1 if we feel its out best value

Hon mention- Jerel Worthy DT mich St/ Lamar miller RB the U/ Cordy Glenn G Georgia / Peter Konz C Wisconsin /


Those are the guys i have a feeling will be in the mix with us with a few of em perdicted to go a bit before us but u never know when u start talking picks 15-end of 1st rd in the Draft because all it takes is a few curveballs and guys start dropping that weren't expected.. my guess as of today is that one of those names above will end up in BLUE next season

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 06:27 AM
What I have for today, some are carry overs from day 1...

1) Kirk Cousins has been the best performing QB. Scouts are liking his arm. Kellen Moore's continues to struggle at any throw downfield or sideline. I think at this point his chances of being drafted are slim and narrowed down only to west coast teams. He has looked very intelligent and accurate on short throws but it was noted that today he was trying extra hard to put umph on downfield throws and it was negatively effecting his mechanics. Wilson, a guy who's measurables had scouts worried yesterday, seems to be doing pretty well. He has had some flashes of briliance. I have read more than once that scouts love his high release point, a necessity for a short guy.

2) Prolly the biggest day 2 loser was Chris Polk(RB Washington.) This was dissapointing to see. Aparently ,they spent a lot of time in pass protection among RBs and Polk consistently lost battles and showed poor technique. More than 1 scout refered to him as slow. It was noted that it took him too long to acclerate and that at max speed he ran very upright.

3) Isaiah Pead, a guy who had scouts worried at the weigh in yesterday, has done well for himself. A couple ppl have said he is the best all around performing back so far. He even showed some fight in picking up blocks.

4) Doug martin and Dan Herron have also shown well for themselves running the ball. Speaking of backs, the bengals have spent a large bulk of their time interviewing backs. They spent a lot of time with Martin and Pead.

5) Jeff Allen(T Illinois) struggled today in many of the matchups he faced. His stock has dropped.

6) Aparently Dwight Jones (Wr NC) has really struggled getting off the LoS in press coverage. Thats not good for a big WR.

7) 1 scout noted that Marquis Maze, even though he hasnt been on the field that much, has hurt himelf. He has come across immature in conversations. He also appeared overwieght....

8) It wasnt a good day for the TEs. Igwenagu dropped 2 easy completions and has struggled. Egnew isnt a blocker(we kinda knew that) although he did ok vs speed rushers. It was the bulls who trounced em.

9) Qinton Coples and Courtney Upshaw have had their way with whoever lines up against them. Coples is reportedly showing more technique than expected to go with his raw athleticism and Upshaw is aparently unstoppably powerful. Upshaw was the best as far as setting the edge and keeping contain as well. 1 guy said he is James Harrison jr. Its been said though, that these 2 really outclass anyone lined up against them and therefor its hard to evaluate both sides.

10) Lastly, it would be a mistake to forget to mention the CBs. Most feel the defensive talent on the field this week overshadows the offensive talent. At no position is this more evident than in the defensive backfield. 3 guys names came up repeatedly. Casey Heyward, Jamell Flemming, and George Iioka. George has been a hot topic aparently. The conversation revolving around what position he will play in the NFL. Coming into this week everyone said "No a 6' 4 guy cant be a corner." But, he is showing cover skills. I still think he may end up as a safety in the NFL but someone is going to reach for this kid because he is so versatile. This is a kid who can cover those hybrid TE/WRwe see popping up around the league. He may be a mold breaker too. He aparently had a highlight interception today that was the play of the day. Flemming and Heyward have been blanketting WRs in 1v1 and in scrimmage since getting to mobile.The major exception is still Alphonzo Dennard, who struggles covering when he has to turn and run. He had 1 nice play today, and plays well as long as the ball is in front of him and he doesnt have to turn his hips.

shuld be more info on south guys tomorrow...
THere ya go with Casey Hayward!!lol I can't say enough about that kid! Iloka also is a guy everyone including myself(put em in last mock i believe) have been really taking aliking to.. As for the RB's its not that hard to see Doug martin and Isaiah Pead are sensational backs and probably right there if not better then lamar miller and David Wilson.. Doug martin and Casey Hayward were both on my most Underrated list i made last week and there quickly becoming what looks like fast risers in this yrs draft.. I still like Polk alot but these reports are dropping him a tad on my personal rankings..

Raptor22
01-25-2012, 10:56 AM
so who might be there for us as BAP @ pick 31/32? Alot of players at this point that could be there.. As of now this is probably the top 5or so guys i think have at least a possiblity of being there when we pick.

Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Explosive TE that is a complete TE and would give us a great 1/2 punch with Jake Ballard at the positon

Fletcher Cox DT miss st- I'd be surprised if he were there but he could be and i'd think with Rock Bernard being a FA and Canty getting alittle long in the tooth and Austin missing 2straight yrs of development he'd be on there list of possibles...

mike adams OT Ohio St- Hes gonna rise well into the mid 1st rd stages becuase of his long arms/big hands and perfect body type(6ft 7in 323lb) solid competiton and potential of sticking at LT in the pro's but if he is somehow there when we pick its hard to imagine the GIANTS not pouncing on him as we only have Beatty and Brewer for the Tackle positon once we let Diehl go after the season as a cap casualty.. Adams would be a bigtime asset in the Run Game..

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St- Obviously the potential is there for this kid to be a total dominating force in the NFL but he came up short this past yr and really didn't look good.. Hes tabbed as a head case and its gonna take a good coaching job to get this kid right in the head.. COughlin and Crew could be the right coaches for the job and picking at the end of RD 1 a guy with Burficts potential at a positon of need is tough to pass up..

Chase minnifield CB Virginia- Kinda a long shot at going CB again this yr but Ross and TT are both FA's and we seen how quick your depth can be depleted through injury.. I could see a guy like chase/ Janoris Jenkins or a sleeper Casey Hayward possibly going to us at the end of RD 1 if we feel its out best value

Hon mention- Jerel Worthy DT mich St/ Lamar miller RB the U/ Cordy Glenn G Georgia / Peter Konz C Wisconsin /


Those are the guys i have a feeling will be in the mix with us with a few of em perdicted to go a bit before us but u never know when u start talking picks 15-end of 1st rd in the Draft because all it takes is a few curveballs and guys start dropping that weren't expected.. my guess as of today is that one of those names above will end up in BLUE next season


After reading how Iloka is blowing up practices, I think he could be working his way into the 1st. A safety with WILL size and CB cover ability!? That just doesn't happen. That's JPP level freakishness right there. The only thing that could kick him down is playing for Boise (level of comp)

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 11:06 AM
so who might be there for us as BAP @ pick 31/32?* Alot of players at this point that could be there..* As of now* this is probably the top 5or so guys i think have at least a possiblity of being there when we pick.

Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Explosive TE that is a complete TE and would give us a great 1/2 punch with Jake Ballard at the positon

Fletcher Cox DT miss st-* I'd be surprised if he were there* but he could be and i'd think with Rock Bernard being a FA and* Canty getting alittle long in the tooth and Austin missing 2straight yrs of development*** he'd be on there list of possibles...

mike adams OT Ohio St- Hes gonna rise well into the mid 1st rd stages becuase of his long arms/big hands and perfect body type(6ft 7in 323lb) ** solid competiton and potential of sticking at LT in the pro's ** but if he is somehow there** when we pick*** its hard to imagine the GIANTS not pouncing on him*** as* we only have Beatty and Brewer for the Tackle positon* once we let Diehl go after the season as a cap casualty.. Adams would be a bigtime asset in the Run Game..

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St-* Obviously the potential is there for this kid to be a total dominating* force in the NFL** but he came up short this past yr*** and really didn't look good..* Hes tabbed as a head case and its gonna take a good coaching job to get this kid right in the head.. COughlin and Crew could be the right coaches for the job* and picking at the end of RD 1**** a guy with Burficts potential** at a positon of need* is tough to pass up..

Chase minnifield CB Virginia- Kinda a long shot at going CB again this yr* but* Ross and TT are both FA's and we seen how quick your depth can be depleted through injury..** I could see* a guy like chase/ Janoris Jenkins* or* a sleeper Casey Hayward* possibly going to us at the end of RD 1 if** we feel its out best value

Hon mention-* Jerel Worthy DT mich St/* Lamar miller RB the U/* Cordy Glenn G Georgia /* Peter Konz C Wisconsin /


Those are the guys i have a feeling will be in the mix with us*** with a few of em perdicted to go a bit before* us*** but u never know when u start talking* picks 15-end of 1st rd** in the Draft** because all it takes is a few curveballs and guys start dropping that weren't expected..* my guess as of today** is that one of those names above** will end up in BLUE next season


After reading how Iloka is blowing up practices, I think he could be working his way into the 1st. A safety with WILL size and CB cover ability!? That just doesn't happen. That's JPP level freakishness right there. The only thing that could kick him down is playing for Boise (level of comp)
He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage. It would be nice to have a player that could match up with TE's but there is a level of risk there taking him that high.Im not sure he is an every down safety and he isnt an every down CB. I just wonder if the Giants drafted this player last year in Jacquain Williams .Although having multiple athletic pass defenders isnt a bad thing to have. I wouldnt put it past the Giants taking him where there picking now the Best player value will probably be at safety,interior line,RB,or TE.

slipknottin
01-25-2012, 12:25 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

critters
01-25-2012, 12:31 PM
3 of my later round guys getting good reviews: Ballard, Menzie and Adams.

I WISH we could be in play for a guy like Upshaw. Unless he gets injured, he's guaranteed to be a star in the NFL. His speed is INSANE and he's strong as hell. Every year at Alabama he was voted among players as the hardest hitter on the team as well.

slipknottin
01-25-2012, 12:34 PM
I WISH we could be in play for a guy like Upshaw.

IMO, he does not have the length the giants look for in their pass rushers.

critters
01-25-2012, 01:16 PM
I WISH we could be in play for a guy like Upshaw.

IMO, he does not have the length the giants look for in their pass rushers.

Won't matter anyway.. he'll be a top 10-15 pick.

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 01:21 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college. Usually guys that play the ball well get there hand on a pass once and awhile

slipknottin
01-25-2012, 01:25 PM
Usually guys that play the ball well get there hand on a pass once and awhile

he has for his career 7 interceptions and 24 pass breakups.

DragonSoul
01-25-2012, 02:15 PM
so who might be there for us as BAP @ pick 31/32?* Alot of players at this point that could be there..* As of now* this is probably the top 5or so guys i think have at least a possiblity of being there when we pick.

Dwayne Allen TE Clemson- Explosive TE that is a complete TE and would give us a great 1/2 punch with Jake Ballard at the positon

Fletcher Cox DT miss st-* I'd be surprised if he were there* but he could be and i'd think with Rock Bernard being a FA and* Canty getting alittle long in the tooth and Austin missing 2straight yrs of development*** he'd be on there list of possibles...

mike adams OT Ohio St- Hes gonna rise well into the mid 1st rd stages becuase of his long arms/big hands and perfect body type(6ft 7in 323lb) ** solid competiton and potential of sticking at LT in the pro's ** but if he is somehow there** when we pick*** its hard to imagine the GIANTS not pouncing on him*** as* we only have Beatty and Brewer for the Tackle positon* once we let Diehl go after the season as a cap casualty.. Adams would be a bigtime asset in the Run Game..

Vontaze Burfict LB Arz St-* Obviously the potential is there for this kid to be a total dominating* force in the NFL** but he came up short this past yr*** and really didn't look good..* Hes tabbed as a head case and its gonna take a good coaching job to get this kid right in the head.. COughlin and Crew could be the right coaches for the job* and picking at the end of RD 1**** a guy with Burficts potential** at a positon of need* is tough to pass up..

Chase minnifield CB Virginia- Kinda a long shot at going CB again this yr* but* Ross and TT are both FA's and we seen how quick your depth can be depleted through injury..** I could see* a guy like chase/ Janoris Jenkins* or* a sleeper Casey Hayward* possibly going to us at the end of RD 1 if** we feel its out best value

Hon mention-* Jerel Worthy DT mich St/* Lamar miller RB the U/* Cordy Glenn G Georgia /* Peter Konz C Wisconsin /


Those are the guys i have a feeling will be in the mix with us*** with a few of em perdicted to go a bit before* us*** but u never know when u start talking* picks 15-end of 1st rd** in the Draft** because all it takes is a few curveballs and guys start dropping that weren't expected..* my guess as of today** is that one of those names above** will end up in BLUE next season
Thanks for the insight.

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 05:11 PM
Usually guys that play the ball well get there hand on a pass once and awhile

he has for his career 7 interceptions and 24 pass breakups. Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year

I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any

slipknottin
01-25-2012, 05:24 PM
Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year

I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any

Yea, I wonder if he was doing different things...
IE- I know he was actually playing a bit of corner earlier in his college career, maybe as he got older they moved him more and more to deep third, where you just dont get as many opportunities to get your hands on the ball, especially if teams respect you and try to keep it away from you.

BlueSanta
01-25-2012, 05:56 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 07:17 PM
Kendall Reyes is making noise at the sr bowl from what i've read.. Hes a guy that made some noise early on this season and got his stock going pretty good and then u kinda stopped hering about em and now hes getting his stock back up there.. I woulden't be surprised if he ends up going very early 3rd rd..

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 07:40 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..

BlueSanta
01-25-2012, 08:14 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..

His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 08:51 PM
Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year

I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any

Yea, I wonder if he was doing different things...
IE- I know he was actually playing a bit of corner earlier in his college career, maybe as he got older they moved him more and more to deep third, where you just dont get as many opportunities to get your hands on the ball, especially if teams respect you and try to keep it away from you.I may be getting a different impression because im watching the last 3 games with him playing mostly CB .He played well in man coverage against ASU.He got matched up with Gerrel Robinson a few times. Anyway if he is doing different things in 2010 that will be even better. Can get a real good feel for his overall game.

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 08:56 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
* I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..**

His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.
Ive seen playing of guys talk about him from his tape being slow on breaking on the ball and taking poor angles. I have a few Boise State games from 2010 and earlier in the year im going to go through them.Ive been watching the latest ones with him playing mostly CB.

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 09:03 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
Im not at the Senior Bowl. Im talking about what Ive seen during games.

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 09:20 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..

His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.
I read one report saying he might end up being a LB/S hybrid . I mocked em to us to fill the roll of Deon Grant which i think he'd do great job of.. Do u have any clue what the big diffrence is between Iloka and last yrs similar player Robert Sands? Does Iloka fall into that category or that of Kenny Tate?

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 09:26 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
* I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..**

His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.
* I read one report saying he might end up being a** LB/S hybrid .* I mocked em to us** to fill the roll of Deon Grant* which i think he'd do great job of..** Do u have any clue what the big diffrence is between* Iloka and last yrs* similar player* Robert Sands?*** Does Iloka fall into that category or that of Kenny Tate?

Not Kenny Tate.Tate played close to the line of scrimmage a lot.Slip seemed to know some about Sands maybe he knows if there similar

slipknottin
01-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Sands played all over, but he didnt have the agility, or foot speed to cover anyone one on one.

Now-a-days the safetys need that capability.

heavyhitter
01-25-2012, 09:46 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..

His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.
I read one report saying he might end up being a LB/S hybrid . I mocked em to us to fill the roll of Deon Grant which i think he'd do great job of.. Do u have any clue what the big diffrence is between Iloka and last yrs similar player Robert Sands? Does Iloka fall into that category or that of Kenny Tate?

Not Kenny Tate.Tate played close to the line of scrimmage a lot.Slip seemed to know some about Sands maybe he knows if there similar<font size="2">Hate to toot my own horn, but I was spot on when talking about Robert Sands and what round he'll be drafted in. Now continue the Iloka talk fellas</font>

Redeyejedi
01-25-2012, 10:05 PM
I would not be shocked at all if the Giants selected him. he is right up there alley. Long athletic players are all over the Giants defense. there the tallest defense in the NFL

nycsportzfan
01-25-2012, 10:57 PM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..

His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.
I read one report saying he might end up being a LB/S hybrid . I mocked em to us to fill the roll of Deon Grant which i think he'd do great job of.. Do u have any clue what the big diffrence is between Iloka and last yrs similar player Robert Sands? Does Iloka fall into that category or that of Kenny Tate?

Not Kenny Tate.Tate played close to the line of scrimmage a lot.Slip seemed to know some about Sands maybe he knows if there similar Ya i never totally familiarized myself with Tate and Sands as i did with other prospects . I just remember they were basically the same size and both were considered safety's that could be LB/S hybrids in the pro's.. I think Tate was injured all yr long if i remember correctly?

BlueSanta
01-26-2012, 03:39 AM
] He can play man coverage well.He is a safety that struggles in zone coverage..

Cant say I agree with that. He can play the ball in the air, takes good angles. He played deep safety almost every snap in college.

All the reports I am seeing say he has been among the best zone Dbs at the senior bowl, if not the best.
I read he got smoked by Umass FB/TE Emil Igwenagu on one play..


His 1v1 cover skills arent as good as his zone. I have read that a couple times. But, most agree that is expected out of a 6'4 guy.

Evey db gets beaten too.

I just think a guy like this is interesting. The new stiffer rules on DBs and playing physical, combined with the rules which discourage the "enforcer" type safety I do think teams will start seeking out rangey guys who fill and block passing lanes. If this kid is capable of moving around back there at 6'4 he is going to be 1 tough SoB to throw over.

I wasnt really expecting much from him coming into the senior bowl. But, he is 1 of the guys I keep reading about.
Ive seen playing of guys talk about him from his tape being slow on breaking on the ball and taking poor angles. I have a few Boise State games from 2010 and earlier in the year im going to go through them.Ive been watching the latest ones with him playing mostly CB.

Everything Im going on here is just from what I have found on the senior bowl. I scour sites as well as subscribe to a couple private services.

From the NY times Senior bowl coverage "<font size="2">Iloka had some difficulty when matched against a wide receiver in 1-on-1
drills, but looked very fluid in space and coming up to make plays in
zone coverage..</font>"

NFLMocks "<font size="2">Iloka besides Mike Adams has had the best first two days of the
Senior Bowl. Hesa massive safety prospect and is running and playing
coverage better than anyone expected. In a class that isnt terrific at safety
Iloka can really make a big move up here througout this week.</font>"


NFLdraftscout(CBS) listed him as 1 of 3 north players who most helped their stock so far...

<font size="2">"At nearly 6-4 and 222 pounds, Iloka looks more like a potential
linebacker than a free safety, but his athleticism and instincts have
been on display all week long. He intercepted a pass during Tuesday's
practice, making an impressive diving pick-off of Michigan State's Kirk Cousins in front of Massachusetts' H-back Emil Igwenagu.
Iloka is not surprisingly a bit high in his back pedal but he showed
surprising agility and burst when asked to drop down and cover receivers
when the offense switched to a three receiver set. In a relatively weak
year for safeties (outside of Alabama's Mark Barron), Iloka's size,
athleticism and experience (40 consecutive starts) stand out."</font>

I am certain you have seen him play more on film. BSU is not a team I get to see much where I live. I am limmited to highlight clips and bowl games(which I usually can see.)

But, I am only passing along other's opinions of a senior bowl and it would be fair for me to say that only a few players have had as much resoundingly positive ink as Iioka.

BlueSanta
01-26-2012, 04:53 AM
Again, some of what I am putting here is stuff that is from yesterday, but didnt make it to me in time to post.


Nigel Bradham had a good day. People like his mobolity and coverage. His inside play is a little behind his open field and cover skills.

Surpisingly, Sean Spence had trouble covering RBs today. It may have been a bad day, but I read 2 sites that mentioned repeated completions to backs he was covering.

Zach Brown is doing very well for himself. He has not only been the best all around player, but he has been the best signal caller as well. His 1 area of question was his passrush and aparently he was dominant today at getting after QBs.

Alphonzo Dennard had a better day, but still a lot of his plays are occuring in front of him. More stiff hips comments..

Kellen Moore's timing on short routes is very good, as expected. But, as I mentioned before he has a very weak arm.More comments on that arm today despite a nice session for him. His throwing motion is being blamed with 1 comparison to former Gator Heisman winner Danny Wuerffel.

Brandon Boykin (cb georgia) has been very good as has Janoris Jenkins. These 2 have been the class of the south CBs. Dwight Bentley (cb louisiana Laffayette) has also been very good. Like the north side, the south has more talent in its Defensive backfield than it does lining up vs them.

Brandon Weeden has been the best QB of the south. He has had a couple really nice throws aparently. Foles struggled today.

Mike Adams, for those who missed it, Mike measured 11 inch hands at the weigh in on monday. Aparently, if he gets those catchers mitts on anyone its game over. He has done well for himself.

Zebrie Sanders(T FSU)Struggled a lot today. It was an uncomfortable day for him. He did well yesterday but today he was getting schooled by Coples.

Vick Ballard (RB Miss st) has shown a nice ability to break tackles.He has been the best Rb for the south.

Chris Rainey has done well for himself at Wr. There were question marks about him coming into the SB because he, like Percey Harvin at UF, didnt run traditional routes and was also used a lot out of the backfield. But, he has done well at the WR position today and it sounds like that the position he will be sticking with in the NFL.

Joe Adams (wr Arkansa) is have a strong week. Everyone knows he can punt return(see tenn v Ark for 1 of his SEC record tieing 4 punt returns for TD this year). Often times those super quick guys struggle with precise routes,but not Joe. He has been very precise and a nightmare after the catch. Its looking like this kid will be a dangerous slot guy.


Cordy Glenn(G/T Georgia) has been a monster. The only time he struggled was when they had him at tackle and he had a speed rusher over him. Coples got around him pretty easily. But, in every other scenario he dominated. When they had him at guard, he beat everyone. Wherever he was when they asked him to runblock, his guy got demolished.

nycsportzfan
01-26-2012, 08:26 AM
Again, some of what I am putting here is stuff that is from yesterday, but didnt make it to me in time to post.


Nigel Bradham had a good day. People like his mobolity and coverage. His inside play is a little behind his open field and cover skills.

Surpisingly, Sean Spence had trouble covering RBs today. It may have been a bad day, but I read 2 sites that mentioned repeated completions to backs he was covering.

Zach Brown is doing very well for himself. He has not only been the best all around player, but he has been the best signal caller as well. His 1 area of question was his passrush and aparently he was dominant today at getting after QBs.

Alphonzo Dennard had a better day, but still a lot of his plays are occuring in front of him. More stiff hips comments..

Kellen Moore's timing on short routes is very good, as expected. But, as I mentioned before he has a very weak arm.More comments on that arm today despite a nice session for him. His throwing motion is being blamed with 1 comparison to former Gator Heisman winner Danny Wuerffel.

Brandon Boykin (cb georgia) has been very good as has Janoris Jenkins. These 2 have been the class of the south CBs. Dwight Bentley (cb louisiana Laffayette) has also been very good. Like the north side, the south has more talent in its Defensive backfield than it does lining up vs them.

Brandon Weeden has been the best QB of the south. He has had a couple really nice throws aparently. Foles struggled today.

Mike Adams, for those who missed it, Mike measured 11 inch hands at the weigh in on monday. Aparently, if he gets those catchers mitts on anyone its game over. He has done well for himself.

Zebrie Sanders(T FSU)Struggled a lot today. It was an uncomfortable day for him. He did well yesterday but today he was getting schooled by Coples.

Vick Ballard (RB Miss st) has shown a nice ability to break tackles.He has been the best Rb for the south.

Chris Rainey has done well for himself at Wr. There were question marks about him coming into the SB because he, like Percey Harvin at UF, didnt run traditional routes and was also used a lot out of the backfield. But, he has done well at the WR position today and it sounds like that the position he will be sticking with in the NFL.

Joe Adams (wr Arkansa) is have a strong week. Everyone knows he can punt return(see tenn v Ark for 1 of his SEC record tieing 4 punt returns for TD this year). Often times those super quick guys struggle with precise routes,but not Joe. He has been very precise and a nightmare after the catch. Its looking like this kid will be a dangerous slot guy.


Cordy Glenn(G/T Georgia) has been a monster. The only time he struggled was when they had him at tackle and he had a speed rusher over him. Coples got around him pretty easily. But, in every other scenario he dominated. When they had him at guard, he beat everyone. Wherever he was when they asked him to runblock, his guy got demolished.








God i'm like Brandon Boykin more and more.. I want one of those SEC corners in Blue next yr weather its Casey Hayward(2nd best CB in this draft!! U heard right!!!lol) Dequan menzie(very underrated) Brandon Boykin or Stephone Gilmore.. I am not a huge Dre Kirkpatrick fan to be hoenst...

nycsportzfan
01-26-2012, 09:43 AM
A guy REDEYE and I have had interst in earlier in the yr and spoke about since Shea mccllelin is turning heads at the Sr Bowl.. Dude was over heard saying to a couple Charger Scouts he went down to 248lbs from 258lbs in only a few days! What does that mean? It means he can put on weight and go to DE in a 4/3 and not be relegated to only rush LB in a 3/4 scheme.. ..

A guy who has stunk it up and i wondered how in the heck he was seen as a 2nd rder anyways all yr long is Billy Winn.. Heres a guy who rarley impacts a game in a lower tier confrence and people want to take em with a 2nd rder???lol Hes not going till End of the 3rd the earliest in my opinion.. Brandon Thompson is another guy i don't quite get the hype? The guy is supposed to be a stout run stopper ala billy winn hence they don't make to many big plays yet Clemsons D was trash and i watched em get run on often.. I am not a fan of either Billy Winn or Brandon Thompson! There are not a ton of players i litteraly can't get excited about if we draft(at least in some capacity) but those are 2 DT's right there that just don't do it for me.. In a solid DT class(at least first few rds) i'd much rather Fletcher Cox/ Devon Still/ Jerel Worthy(big upside hes got that GIANTS feel to em) Derek Wolfe(could be 5tech) or even Dajohn Harris who the more i learn about the more i like

critters
01-26-2012, 12:51 PM
All my guys are getting great reviews which is good to hear.

In regards to Dre Kirkpatrick... a lot of his hype is a result of his upside. He has great size and reach, good speed and plays physical. Teams stayed away from him for the most part. He has everything you need to be a lockdown corner but I think he is still developing. In 2010 it was obvious to me that Menzie was the best CB on Alabama's squad, but in 2011 Dre really turned up his game and pretty much evened it out. The only thing that separates them IMO is Dre's size. Menzie is a PHENOMENAL player and I think his stock is going to rise as we get closer to the draft. I've always rated him higher than D Robinson who I have thought would drop a bit as we got closer.

BlueSanta
01-26-2012, 05:04 PM
more on Joe Adams....

It was said that he is among the favorites for the MVP of the game, if given the throws. His stock has been flying up this week.

The reason being that the type of coverage they play in the senior bowl is a type of coverage not used very much in the actual NFL( how dumb is that?.)

Aparently, if given a free release and an opportunity to catch then ball and then run with it, he has been nearly unstoppable in practice.

His highlight reel for 2011 is unbelievable too, for those who havent seen it.

BlueSanta
01-26-2012, 05:07 PM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.

slipknottin
01-26-2012, 07:47 PM
Kendell Reyes is another guy to keep an eye on, DT from Uconn

Ive seen him play in person quite a bit, hes raw, but physically very talented.

Physically he fits the giants mold, just under 6'4, 300 pounds, 32"+ arm length.

4th, 5th round perhaps. And I know as well as anyone the success rate of Uconn players, but Reyes is the first Uconn player ive watched on the field that actually impressed me.

Redeyejedi
01-26-2012, 08:29 PM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too.* He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value

Redeyejedi
01-26-2012, 08:31 PM
Kendell Reyes is another guy to keep an eye on, DT from Uconn

Ive seen him play in person quite a bit, hes raw, but physically very talented.

Physically he fits the giants mold, just under 6'4, 300 pounds, 32"+ arm length.

4th, 5th round perhaps. And I know as well as anyone the success rate of Uconn players, but Reyes is the first Uconn player ive watched on the field that actually impressed me. Giants love those Long sleek athletic lineman.

heavyhitter
01-26-2012, 08:34 PM
Again, some of what I am putting here is stuff that is from yesterday, but didnt make it to me in time to post.

<font size="3">Nigel Bradham </font>had a good day. People like his mobolity and coverage. His inside play is a little behind his open field and cover skills.

<font size="3">Chris Rainey</font> has done well for himself at Wr. There were question marks about him coming into the SB because he, like Percey Harvin at UF, didnt run traditional routes and was also used a lot out of the backfield. <font size="3">But, he has done well at the WR position today and it sounds like that the position he will be sticking with in the NFL.</font>


* <font size="2">The biggest knock scouts seem to have w/ Bradham are
his coverage skills. Pretty sure that's one of the main areas he's
trying to prove to scouts/teams is that he actually has good coverage
skills. Very underrated LB if you ask me. The guy has good size, great
speed, excellent against the run (hits like a mack truck), &amp; one of
the most athletic LBer's in this class. His stock has got to be on the
rise.



* I dont see Chris Rainey as a WR in the NFL. There's no question he can
catch the ball, but I think he plays RB at the next level. Just like
Demps, Rainey is a burner. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run in the
high 4.2's or low 4.3's at the combine &amp; probably be drafted
somewhere in the 4-6 round range.</font>

heavyhitter
01-26-2012, 08:40 PM
<font size="3">Does anyone have the measurements of <span class="postbody"> Iloka's arm length?
</span></font><span class="postbody"> </span><span class="postbody">http://i42.tinypic.com/2kr6ro.jpg</span>

slipknottin
01-26-2012, 08:42 PM
rainey said he wants to run a 4.2 flat.

Im not sure if he fits as a WR or a HB, honestly, hes tiny,

Could see as a kick/punt returner, as well as gunner, hes a damn good punt blocker too.

heavyhitter
01-26-2012, 08:57 PM
rainey said he wants to run a 4.2 flat.

Im not sure if he fits as a WR or a HB, honestly, hes tiny,

Could see as a kick/punt returner, as well as gunner, hes a damn good punt blocker too.<font size="2">Yea, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he runs in that range. The problem at UF w/ Rainey was consistancy, he either looked really good at times or really bad. I just can't see him at his size being a WR in the NFL. Not to take anything away from Rainey but Harvin was a much better talent. </font>

lawl
01-26-2012, 09:00 PM
rainey said he wants to run a 4.2 flat.

Im not sure if he fits as a WR or a HB, honestly, hes tiny,

Could see as a kick/punt returner, as well as gunner, hes a damn good punt blocker too.

Yup, in the Florida high school 100m state final Rainey finished like a hair behind demps. I just wished demps showed up to the combine to see his 40 time.

heavyhitter
01-26-2012, 09:11 PM
All my guys are getting great reviews which is good to hear.

In regards to Dre Kirkpatrick... a lot of his hype is a result of his upside. He has great size and reach, good speed and plays physical. Teams stayed away from him for the most part. He has everything you need to be a lockdown corner but I think he is still developing. In 2010 it was obvious to me that Menzie was the best CB on Alabama's squad, but in 2011 Dre really turned up his game and pretty much evened it out. The only thing that separates them IMO is Dre's size. Menzie is a PHENOMENAL player and I think his stock is going to rise as we get closer to the draft. I've always rated him higher than D Robinson who I have thought would drop a bit as we got closer.
<font size="2">Maybe a bold statement, but I think Janoris Jenkins will be a more productive CB in the NFL opposed to Dre Kirkpatrick. I always thought Jenkins was just as good as Joe Haden at UF. Kirkpatrick has got all the tools to be a great DB &amp; will most likely be the 2nd CB off the board after Mo Claiborne but I still think as far as production at the next level, Jenkins has got the edge. </font>

nycsportzfan
01-26-2012, 10:12 PM
Kendell Reyes is another guy to keep an eye on, DT from Uconn

Ive seen him play in person quite a bit, hes raw, but physically very talented.

Physically he fits the giants mold, just under 6'4, 300 pounds, 32"+ arm length.

4th, 5th round perhaps. And I know as well as anyone the success rate of Uconn players, but Reyes is the first Uconn player ive watched on the field that actually impressed me. Ya I litteraly just wrote a post on Kendall Reyes just this morning.. Hes certainly a player that has impressed all yr long .. His stock got pretty hig early on in the season to about midway point and then u kinda stopped hering about em So this is a good thing for him to show up and show off at the Sr Bowl and get people kinda get that stock going up again..

slipknottin
01-26-2012, 10:25 PM
Ya* I litteraly just wrote a post on Kendall Reyes just this morning..* Hes certainly a player that has impressed all yr long ..*

I honestly have not had a chance to watch him this year. But I saw him alot last season.

Watched him pick off a pass against CIncy and run it back like 80 yards. He motors pretty good for a 300 pounder.

BlueSanta
01-26-2012, 11:56 PM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value


Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.

nycsportzfan
01-27-2012, 06:53 AM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value


Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol) Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up.. Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there.. Works for me! Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft.. Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/ just to name a few...

BlueSanta
01-27-2012, 09:05 AM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value


Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol) Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up.. Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there.. Works for me! Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft.. Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/ just to name a few...


Found it, from a NY times blog about senior bowl....

"Wagner drew praise early for his hustle and speed in special-teams
drills and then earned a compliment from Singletary for his good body
lean while changing direction in individual footwork drills. He was on
the line of scrimmage at outside linebacker and consistently showed the
ability to anchor at the point of attack and shed blocks. Through two
days, hes ahead of Emmanuel Acho, James-Michael Johnson and Nigel
Bradham as the most impressive between-the-tackles run-stuffing
linebacker prospect."

Ill be the 1st to admit, I havent seen much of him cept the highlights ppl make. I have a hard time judging by just those. I always have to remind myself that often those are promotional and dont show the negatives(not redeye of course). There isnt a bunch out there on this kid either.

Redeyejedi
01-27-2012, 09:38 AM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too.* He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value


Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
* Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol)** Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up..***** Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will* and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there..* Works for me!** Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft..** Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/* just to name a few...


Found it, from a NY times blog about senior bowl....

"Wagner drew praise early for his hustle and speed in special-teams
drills and then earned a compliment from Singletary for his good body
lean while changing direction in individual footwork drills. He was on
the line of scrimmage at outside linebacker and consistently showed the
ability to anchor at the point of attack and shed blocks. Through two
days, hes ahead of Emmanuel Acho, James-Michael Johnson and Nigel
Bradham as the most impressive between-the-tackles run-stuffing
linebacker prospect."

Ill be the 1st to admit, I havent seen much of him cept the highlights ppl make. I have a hard time judging by just those. I always have to remind myself that often those are promotional and dont show the negatives(not redeye of course). There isnt a bunch out there on this kid either.
I will put some more up.The thing that I like is he has those long arms.its easy for him to shed lineman

nycsportzfan
01-27-2012, 11:42 AM
Emmanuel Acho (Lb, Texas)has been very impressive in passrushing drills too. He has shown versatility in practice with the ability to move around to different LB positions.
Both the Texas LB's interest me . I still like James Michael Johnson of Nevada and Bobby Wagner Utah State the best though in terms of value


Wagner is a guy who is supposedly having a solid senior bowl.

I read someplace Singletary praised his body lean and performance at the point of attack. I do not have the exact quote in front of me, but it was good stuff.
Wagner was one of the guys whos body type got alot of praise at the Weigh in's on a site i looked at as well(forgot what one? so many i look at..lol) Hes come along way since i tabbed em a sleeper and asked redeye to put a film of him up.. Wagner in the middle with Jaquain at the Will and u got 2/3's of our future starting LB core right there.. Works for me! Hes def one of my many fave's in this yrs draft.. Along with guys like Whitney mercilus/ Fletcher Cox/ Casey Hayward/ Doug martin/ Dwayne Allen/ just to name a few...


Found it, from a NY times blog about senior bowl....

"Wagner drew praise early for his hustle and speed in special-teams
drills and then earned a compliment from Singletary for his good body
lean while changing direction in individual footwork drills. He was on
the line of scrimmage at outside linebacker and consistently showed the
ability to anchor at the point of attack and shed blocks. Through two
days, hes ahead of Emmanuel Acho, James-Michael Johnson and Nigel
Bradham as the most impressive between-the-tackles run-stuffing
linebacker prospect."

Ill be the 1st to admit, I havent seen much of him cept the highlights ppl make. I have a hard time judging by just those. I always have to remind myself that often those are promotional and dont show the negatives(not redeye of course). There isnt a bunch out there on this kid either.
Ya i've seen him a couple times now and done tons of re-search and everything i read or find out or what i've seen has been incredible impressive.. Utah St as a hole is a fun team to follow..

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 10:14 AM
Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any Yea, I wonder if he was doing different things... IE- I know he was actually playing a bit of corner earlier in his college career, maybe as he got older they moved him more and more to deep third, where you just dont get as many opportunities to get your hands on the ball, especially if teams respect you and try to keep it away from you.A guy on a draft board told me to look at his 2010 tape because the corner play was better.He said Ilokka had trouble this season in zone because of how bad the corner play was im going to take his word for it and check it out.I havent watched him much either season but I remember thinking he looked better last year

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 10:14 AM
Not much going on this year though. Most of those numbers came his freshman year I still have his 2010 game vs Nevada. I want to see if he matches up with Virgil green any Yea, I wonder if he was doing different things... IE- I know he was actually playing a bit of corner earlier in his college career, maybe as he got older they moved him more and more to deep third, where you just dont get as many opportunities to get your hands on the ball, especially if teams respect you and try to keep it away from you.A guy on a draft board told me to look at his 2010 tape because the corner play was better.He said Iloka had trouble this season in zone because of how bad the corner play was. *Im going to take his word for it and check it out.I havent watched much of him either season but I remember thinking he looked better last year.

slipknottin
01-28-2012, 01:47 PM
as pointed out by evan silva...

Iloka has a bigger wingspan than JPP.

JPP has an 80" wingspan, Iloka has 80 5/8"

Thats unbelievable for a safety.

He ran a 4.49 last spring.

The more I hear about him the more I like him.

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 01:52 PM
as pointed out by evan silva...

Iloka has a bigger wingspan than JPP.

JPP has an 80" wingspan, Iloka has 80 5/8"

Thats unbelievable for a safety.

He ran a 4.49 last spring.

The more I hear about him the more I like him.That is ridiculous

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 03:54 PM
There is a Agent I converse with on twitter "Mostly small school" and he put this up of one of his guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XU34I3duRw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 06:10 PM
Coples looking like an animal in the Senior Bowl.Where was this guy all year.He looks like he did when he was a Junior

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 06:14 PM
Isiah Pead with an awesome Punt return, 60 yards.L David with a pancake block sprung him

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 06:32 PM
Pead with another awesome return this time 38 yards

And Casey Hayward snags a ball thrown by Kirk Cousins for a pick.Hayward looks good out there.Had a nice PD before saving a TD as well

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:09 PM
Pead with another awesome return this time 38 yards

And Casey Hayward snags a ball thrown by Kirk Cousins for a pick.Hayward looks good out there.Had a nice PD before saving a TD as well Jesus Casey Freaing Hayward is just so disgustingly underrated! As i keep saying i think behind morris claiborne hes the best CB in this entire draft! I thought he'd be this yrs Kareem Jackson and be a 1st RD surprise and i'm sticking by that.. Hes just so incredibly talented..

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 07:14 PM
Bobby wagner is no longer an unknown having an outstanding game

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:17 PM
Bobby wagner is no longer an unknown having an outstanding game All my Favorites are really impressing early draft season so far

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:19 PM
Vinny Curry just ate Zerbie sanders up for huge sack! Sanders having a tough week!

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:21 PM
Juron Criner is another guy u just had to wonder why some have had as possible 3rd and even 4th rder...lol Hes about as good as anyone in the country.. I dont know what people see when looking at guys like Criner/ Doug martin/ Pead...etc These guys are electric and just way to good to not be talked with the top of crop.. Very easy to see them become riser as draft approaches

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:23 PM
Coples looking like an animal in the Senior Bowl.Where was this guy all year.He looks like he did when he was a Junior Ya Coples is a guy i'll admit I thought had "BUST" written all over him but its evident the extra attention he got this past yr is what slowed him down more then laziness.. Coples looks sensational this sr bowl week..

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:28 PM
Boy Joe Adams is crazy elusive!

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:32 PM
What a pass by Foles to his teammate at ARZ Juron Criner.. I said it before and i'll say it again I like Foles better then Tannehill and Criner is a sure 2nd rder and possible very late 1st rder if he dosen't blow it at the combine.. Also awesome blocking for Foles on that lates TD drive in the early 4th qter.. The Ga boys Cordy Glenn and Ben Jones looked great!

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:34 PM
As i've said most of this yr and again i feel is true Today Ryan Tannehill not overly impressive against a NW D that is dreadful He let them back in the game and his play has dropped considerbly as the games gone on and with a ridiculous heap of weapons to boot Hes a guy i woulden't touch untill RD3 at the earliest I would rather have Nick Foles I wonder how Foles would be if he were on a good team? Well I guess Foles would do good with a good team around him...lol

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 07:34 PM
Joe Adams has been the best WR on the field today with runner up honors going to Juron Criner but he is catching all his balls from Foles

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:36 PM
Joe Adams has been the best WR on the field today with runner up honors going to Juron Criner but he is catching all his balls from Foles Casey Hayward just got robbed on a beuatful pass breakup yet again! Dudes been sensational!

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 07:37 PM
Joe Adams has been the best WR on the field today with runner up honors going to Juron Criner but he is catching all his balls from Foles* Casey Hayward just got robbed on a beuatful pass breakup yet again!** Dudes been sensational!**
2 bad PI calls on him

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 07:41 PM
Coples has been terrific kind of makes me wonder why he decided not to play hard this season

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:43 PM
Pead has such stout balance and as mayock said " he has explosion through the hole".. Pead is a guy even coming into the yr I thought was a bit underrated and kinda not talked about as much as he should of been.. Outside of size(hes not your ideal everydown back) he does everything well.. He can block He can Catch Obviously as were seeing he can return punts and he has explosion and balance as a runner

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:44 PM
Coples has been terrific kind of makes me wonder why he decided not to play hard this season I read where people are now believing it was in fact the extra attention more then anything and offenses gameplanning away from Coples as why he wasen't as productive..

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:48 PM
Coples has been terrific kind of makes me wonder why he decided not to play hard this season Coples with another TFL! Jesus!

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:49 PM
Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th? Is that Kalil hes destroying?

slipknottin
01-28-2012, 07:53 PM
*Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that* Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th?* Is that Kalil hes destroying?


Schwartz? I think

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:55 PM
Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th? Is that Kalil hes destroying?


theres a guy from USC in this game?maybe its a TROY player? I coulden't tell who it was to be honest.. Was it that James Brown? I don't know thats why i'm asking.. He was completely ate up by Coples on that last drive though

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:56 PM
wow sweet 18yrd by Pead! There liking em big time there in mobile!

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:57 PM
Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th? Is that Kalil hes destroying?


Schwartz? I think nah it didn't look like a CAL helmet

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 07:58 PM
Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th? Is that Kalil hes destroying?


Schwartz? I think Shwartz in there now because the other dude was getting destroyed! Shwartz doing way better then the guy before him at controlling Coples

slipknottin
01-28-2012, 08:04 PM
James Michael Johnson is a really good player too. Could be a nice pick mid rounds, perhaps in the 4th.

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 08:05 PM
James michael Johnson with the pick of Ryan Lindley.. Lindley really isn't much more then a developmental QB in my opinion.. I liked em as a sleeper QB but his Accuracy and decison making is way to shoddy for my liking..


my boy Isaiah Pead with mvp honors..

BlueSanta
01-28-2012, 08:06 PM
Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th? Is that Kalil hes destroying?


Schwartz? I think Shwartz in there now because the other dude was getting destroyed! Shwartz doing way better then the guy before him at controlling Coples


They said all week Coples was unblockable with Upshaw right behind him. I do not think they had very many quaility tackles to go against.

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 08:06 PM
James Michael Johnson is a really good player too. Could be a nice pick mid rounds, perhaps in the 4th. agreed... REDEYE really likes him.. Casey Hayward is the guy that just gets me giddy inside as far as his ability to stick with WR"s and actually make plays on the ball as well as attack the run

Sundown
01-28-2012, 08:08 PM
Fell asleep, who were the stand outs?

slipknottin
01-28-2012, 08:09 PM
agreed... REDEYE really likes him..**** Casey Hayward is the guy that just gets me giddy inside as far as his ability to stick with WR"s and actually make plays on the ball* as well as attack the run


Yea, ive watched quite a bit of tape of him. I really dont understand why hes rated so low. He looks like an nfl starter to me. Maybe hes not that dynamic of an athlete, but he doesnt have any real downside to his game either.

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 08:09 PM
Hey Redeye who is that Trojan that Coples keeps eating up on the latest drive here in the 4th? Is that Kalil hes destroying?


Schwartz? I think Shwartz in there now because the other dude was getting destroyed! Shwartz doing way better then the guy before him at controlling Coples


They said all week Coples was unblockable with Upshaw right behind him. I do not think they had very many quaility tackles to go against.
Shwartz raised his stock alot this week from what i've understood.. I actually could see Shwartz as a possible comp for James Brewer if hes there in RD 3 or 4 for us.. Coples was just sensational anyway u cut the dice..

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 08:13 PM
agreed... REDEYE really likes him.. Casey Hayward is the guy that just gets me giddy inside as far as his ability to stick with WR"s and actually make plays on the ball as well as attack the run


Yea, ive watched quite a bit of tape of him. I really dont understand why hes rated so low. He looks like an nfl starter to me. Maybe hes not that dynamic of an athlete, but he doesnt have any real downside to his game either. I said the same thing like a gazillion times when i've seen people have em in like rd 3 and a couple in RD 4!!!lol Its gotta be the fact hes not "special" fast.. I really believe as i've said a ton that hes a guy who by draft time could surprise as a 1st rder or at worst very early 2nd and i think hes well on his way to that.. I have em as the 2nd best CB in the draft ahead of Dre Kirkpatrick.. Hayward is a very safe pick and a guy i think u look at 5yrs down the rd and hes one of the more consistent CB's in the league.. Who cares if hes not "elite' fast as long as his techniuqe and ball skills are stellar? His Run defense is just icing on the cake

Redeyejedi
01-28-2012, 09:30 PM
*James michael Johnson with the pick of Ryan Lindley..** Lindley really isn't much more then a developmental QB in my opinion..* I liked em as a sleeper* QB** but his Accuracy and decison making is way to shoddy for my liking..


my boy Isaiah Pead with mvp honors..*
Depends on where Lindley gets picked. i wouldnt mind drafting him to try to develop into a back up/Tradeable QB but it has to be the right value

nycsportzfan
01-28-2012, 10:29 PM
James michael Johnson with the pick of Ryan Lindley.. Lindley really isn't much more then a developmental QB in my opinion.. I liked em as a sleeper QB but his Accuracy and decison making is way to shoddy for my liking..


my boy Isaiah Pead with mvp honors..
Depends on where Lindley gets picked. i wouldnt mind drafting him to try to develop into a back up/Tradeable QB but it has to be the right value Eh.. Gotta feeling he'll be just like Rhett Bomar.. I'd rather get Case Keenum or even Russell Wilson(depending on RD)

heavyhitter
01-28-2012, 11:11 PM
I missed the Senior Bowl today (out of town), someone fill me in on how the following prospects fared today. Btw, Aldon Smith got popped this morning w/ a DUI in Miami Beach. I hear Pead got MVP honors & Copies looked really impressive. How did these guys look: T, Mike Adams, T, Zebrie Sanders, S, Markelle Martin, CB Janoris Jenkins, CB Jamell Fleming, LBers Nigel Bradham, Bobby Wagner, & Lavonte David. I'm on my phone so I can't jump from website to website. Anyone have a link w/ the stats from the game?

Redeyejedi
01-29-2012, 10:11 AM
Jermarcus (Yoshi) Hardrick the LT of Nebraska is interesting to me. Big guy 6'7" 320 36" arms did a great job in the Bowl game against Legitimate NFL Talent in Clowney and Ingram. He didnt qualify out of HS to play Div 1 academically. Im going to go back and watch more but if he could handle those guys its a good sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG2ruLluSY

A little Sloppy but he is from Juco was receruited by LSU as well. Same Juco college as Pierre paul

Redeyejedi
01-29-2012, 10:14 AM
*James michael Johnson with the pick of Ryan Lindley..** Lindley really isn't much more then a developmental QB in my opinion..* I liked em as a sleeper* QB** but his Accuracy and decison making is way to shoddy for my liking..


my boy Isaiah Pead with mvp honors..*
Depends on where Lindley gets picked. i wouldnt mind drafting him to try to develop into a back up/Tradeable QB but it has to be the right value* Eh..* Gotta feeling he'll be just like Rhett Bomar..* I'd rather get Case Keenum** or* even Russell Wilson(depending on RD)
I think Lindley fits the Giants offense better. Wilson is more intriguing because u could probably get some kind of use out of him even if its not at QB.

Redeyejedi
01-29-2012, 03:01 PM
here is more on Hardwick

He started every game at offensive tackle for Fort Scott during his two seasons. He and his teammates finished last season as the national runners-up after they lost the title game to Blinn College (Texas). Hardrick was named to the NJCAA All-America first-team for his efforts in 2009. Two years ago, Hardrick had some memorable in-practice battles with former teammate Jason Pierre-Paul, whos bolting to the NFL after a productive season at South Florida. Actually, Hardrick had the upper hand in those physical one-on-one matchups regularly, according to Horton. Hardrick has already signed a letter of intent and enrolled at Nebraska.

bLuereverie
01-29-2012, 06:47 PM
Mike Adams and Zebrie Sanders looked to be playing themselves out of the Giants picks though for very different reasons.

Mike Adams will warrant some attention for a team in need of an LT earlier on whereas Zebrie looked lost out there.

heavyhitter
01-29-2012, 07:04 PM
Mike Adams and Zebrie Sanders looked to be playing themselves out of the Giants picks though for very different reasons.

Mike Adams will warrant some attention for a team in need of an LT earlier on whereas Zebrie looked lost out there.<font size="2">I'm hearing after Adams solid performance yesterday at the Senior Bowl, he's shot up the draft board. Maybe go somewhere in the 10-20 overall range?</font>

Redeyejedi
01-29-2012, 07:08 PM
Mike Adams and Zebrie Sanders looked to be playing themselves out of the Giants picks though for very different reasons.

Mike Adams will warrant some attention for a team in need of an LT earlier on whereas Zebrie looked lost out there.I think if Mike Adams is available he will be the pick.I dont think he is there though.My guess he goes in the Top 20.

heavyhitter
01-29-2012, 07:14 PM
<font size="2">I didn't get a chance to watch the Senior Bowl yesterday, but from what I've read and heard, doesn't appear I missed much. Pretty much a sloppy game for the most part. QB's throwing picks, WR's dropping balls, fumbles, ect. Next years QB class is going to be a really good crop of guys, I can't say the same about this group. Outside of Luck &amp; RG3, I can't say I'm really impressed. WR Joe Adams must have showed out w/ 8 catches for 133 yards. I'm also hearing my guy Nigel Bradham had a sack on Russell Wilson. </font>

gmen0820
01-29-2012, 07:29 PM
Jermarcus (Yoshi) Hardrick the LT of Nebraska is interesting to me. Big guy 6'7" 320 36" arms did a great job in the Bowl game against Legitimate NFL Talent in Clowney and Ingram. He didnt qualify out of HS to play Div 1 academically. Im going to go back and watch more but if he could handle those guys its a good sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG2ruLluSY

A little Sloppy but he is from Juco was receruited by LSU as well. Same Juco college as Pierre paulAnd Jacquain Williams.

bLuereverie
01-29-2012, 07:30 PM
<font size="2">I didn't get a chance to watch the Senior Bowl yesterday, but from what I've read and heard, doesn't appear I missed much. Pretty much a sloppy game for the most part. QB's throwing picks, WR's dropping balls, fumbles, ect. Next years QB class is going to be a really good crop of guys, I can't say the same about this group. Outside of Luck & RG3, I can't say I'm really impressed. WR Joe Adams must have showed out w/ 8 catches for 133 yards. I'm also hearing my guy Nigel Bradham had a sack on Russell Wilson. </font>


May not have been a great game to watch a good football game, but I think it was a great game to evaluate offensive and defensive lineman, LBs and DBs. Luckily, the Giants aren't in dire need of a starting QB or starting WR.

bLuereverie
01-29-2012, 07:31 PM
Mike Adams and Zebrie Sanders looked to be playing themselves out of the Giants picks though for very different reasons.

Mike Adams will warrant some attention for a team in need of an LT earlier on whereas Zebrie looked lost out there.I think if Mike Adams is available he will be the pick.I dont think he is there though.My guess he goes in the Top 20.

I think if there was a position to slightly reach to find an instant starter, it would be for the soon to be tackle void. I can see Chicago picking up Adams unfortunately.

heavyhitter
01-29-2012, 07:47 PM
<font size="2">I didn't get a chance to watch the Senior Bowl yesterday, but from what I've read and heard, doesn't appear I missed much. Pretty much a sloppy game for the most part. QB's throwing picks, WR's dropping balls, fumbles, ect. Next years QB class is going to be a really good crop of guys, I can't say the same about this group. Outside of Luck &amp; RG3, I can't say I'm really impressed. WR Joe Adams must have showed out w/ 8 catches for 133 yards. I'm also hearing my guy Nigel Bradham had a sack on Russell Wilson. </font>


May not have been a great game to watch a good football game, but I think it was a great game to evaluate offensive and defensive lineman, LBs and DBs. Luckily, the Giants aren't in dire need of a starting QB or starting WR.<font size="2">Most definitley, that's why the scouts are there even though I hear most didn't even stay for the whole game. All star games like these are a must for them to be at, and believe it or not, that Senior Bowl will impact a lot of players draft postions.</font>

bLuereverie
01-29-2012, 07:53 PM
The practices/interviews were the most important part for scout evaluations. The actual game itself isn't important enough to stick around throughout its entirety.

heavyhitter
01-29-2012, 07:55 PM
Jermarcus (Yoshi) Hardrick the LT of Nebraska is interesting to me. Big guy 6'7" 320 36" arms did a great job in the Bowl game against Legitimate NFL Talent in Clowney and Ingram. He didnt qualify out of HS to play Div 1 academically. Im going to go back and watch more but if he could handle those guys its a good sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG2ruLluSY

A little Sloppy but he is from Juco was receruited by LSU as well. Same Juco college as Pierre paulAnd Jacquain Williams.<font size="2">Both great athletes/players, &amp; both played their HS football down here in Florida. Sorry bout that, just had to throw some additional facts in there.</font>

heavyhitter
01-29-2012, 08:07 PM
<font size="2">UGA CB Brandon Boykin broke his leg during the Senior Bowl. Tough break for the guy, hope he has a speedy recovery. Pretty sure he was projected as a Day 2 pick, now he could be a steal in the later rounds of the draft. He was UGA's top corner and only player in SEC history w/ 3 100 yard KO returns.</font>

BlueSanta
01-29-2012, 08:12 PM
The practices/interviews were the most important part for scout evaluations. The actual game itself isn't important enough to stick around throughout its entirety.

Absolutely.

The ruleset for the game is actually makes it tough to evaluate some players too. The coverage rules, in my opinion, are horrible for evaluating WRs.

Redeyejedi
01-29-2012, 09:16 PM
Jermarcus (Yoshi) Hardrick the LT of Nebraska is interesting to me. Big guy 6'7" 320 36" arms did a great job in the Bowl game against Legitimate NFL Talent in Clowney and Ingram. He didnt qualify out of HS to play Div 1 academically. Im going to go back and watch more but if he could handle those guys its a good sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG2ruLluSY

A little Sloppy but he is from Juco was receruited by LSU as well. Same Juco college as Pierre paulAnd Jacquain Williams.<font size="2">Both great athletes/players, & both played their HS football down here in Florida. Sorry bout that, just had to throw some additional facts in there.</font>
The real point of this was the tackle and how the coach said this guy got the upper hand on Paul a lot. He also played well against Ingram and Clowney and he is 6'7 320 with 36" arms.

heavyhitter
01-29-2012, 10:55 PM
Jermarcus (Yoshi) Hardrick the LT of Nebraska is interesting to me. Big guy 6'7" 320 36" arms did a great job in the Bowl game against Legitimate NFL Talent in Clowney and Ingram. He didnt qualify out of HS to play Div 1 academically. Im going to go back and watch more but if he could handle those guys its a good sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaG2ruLluSY

A little Sloppy but he is from Juco was receruited by LSU as well. Same Juco college as Pierre paulAnd Jacquain Williams.<font size="2">Both great athletes/players, &amp; both played their HS football down here in Florida. Sorry bout that, just had to throw some additional facts in there.</font>
The real point of this was the tackle and how the coach said this guy got the upper hand on Paul a lot. He also played well against Ingram and Clowney and he is 6'7 320 with 36" arms.<font size="2">Right, I read your post. Hardrick is an intruging prospect at Tackle. I'll tell you another guy who played for Nebraska who was a JUCO transfer out of the same college (Fort Scott, Kansas) is LB Lavonte David. He is an interesting prospect as well. At 6"0, 225, he may be a little undersized at LB but scouts wrote that they were impressed by his instincts, nose for the
ball and closing speed. Some teams are considering David at the strong
safety position if he can improve his speed by a bit. With Deon Grant a FA this year, maybe he's a guy worth taking a look at for when the Giants go into playing 3 safety sets. I still think the Giants are looking for a player w/ a similar skill set to Chad Jones.</font>

nycsportzfan
01-30-2012, 02:14 AM
Mike Adams and Zebrie Sanders looked to be playing themselves out of the Giants picks though for very different reasons.

Mike Adams will warrant some attention for a team in need of an LT earlier on whereas Zebrie looked lost out there.I think if Mike Adams is available he will be the pick.I dont think he is there though.My guess he goes in the Top 20.

I think if there was a position to slightly reach to find an instant starter, it would be for the soon to be tackle void. I can see Chicago picking up Adams unfortunately. Unless michael floyd drops to where the bears pick.. You would think he'd be to appealing to not select with there situation at wide reciever.. He also seems to be the kinda WR the bears really lack(a true redzone threat and strong physical big WR).. They will want to get Cutler someone to play opposite of Cutlers buddy Earl Bennet and Floyd should be the pick if hes there.. Adams will certainly go earlier then expected a week ago even though u could see it coming with Adams because of that size and possibility of him being more then a RT in the pro's and even if he is a RT he'd still be able to play LT in a pinch..

bLuereverie
01-30-2012, 07:36 AM
You would just think that after Cutler's injury, they would finally make it a priority to protect him. Even though he injured himself trying to tackle after an INT, they got a taste of what life without him would be as they went from what was looking to be a playoff team to sitting at home.

nycsportzfan
01-30-2012, 11:58 AM
You would just think that after Cutler's injury, they would finally make it a priority to protect him. Even though he injured himself trying to tackle after an INT, they got a taste of what life without him would be as they went from what was looking to be a playoff team to sitting at home. well to be fair there Line was better then it was the yr before and i do think they'll go Oline early but Floyd would be to hard to pass up i would think.. I certainly could be wrong though

nycsportzfan
01-30-2012, 12:00 PM
I m moving today guys and it could be a few days or possibly more before i'm back up(unless i use a freinds computer or something) So if u don't here from me for a bit thats why.. Be well!!!

BlueSanta
01-30-2012, 04:22 PM
I m moving today guys and it could be a few days or possibly more before i'm back up(unless i use a freinds computer or something) So if u don't here from me for a bit thats why.. Be well!!!

Ahh cool. Parol Officer finally letting you move out of that half-way house huh? jk

Gluck with the move. Better you than me.

nycsportzfan
01-30-2012, 04:31 PM
I m moving today guys and it could be a few days or possibly more before i'm back up(unless i use a freinds computer or something) So if u don't here from me for a bit thats why.. Be well!!!

Ahh cool. Parol Officer finally letting you move out of that half-way house huh? jk

Gluck with the move. Better you than me.
what? Your a weird dude

critters
01-30-2012, 05:20 PM
Vinny Curry just ate Zerbie sanders up for huge sack! Sanders having a tough week!

I was happy about that. I've seen him mocked to the Giants in a number of drafts and I would be super pissed if that happened. Hoping that him getting embarrassed enough times will help decrease the chance of that happening.

critters
01-30-2012, 05:24 PM
All my guys are getting great reviews which is good to hear.

In regards to Dre Kirkpatrick... a lot of his hype is a result of his upside. He has great size and reach, good speed and plays physical. Teams stayed away from him for the most part. He has everything you need to be a lockdown corner but I think he is still developing. In 2010 it was obvious to me that Menzie was the best CB on Alabama's squad, but in 2011 Dre really turned up his game and pretty much evened it out. The only thing that separates them IMO is Dre's size. Menzie is a PHENOMENAL player and I think his stock is going to rise as we get closer to the draft. I've always rated him higher than D Robinson who I have thought would drop a bit as we got closer.
<font size="2">Maybe a bold statement, but I think Janoris Jenkins will be a more productive CB in the NFL opposed to Dre Kirkpatrick. I always thought Jenkins was just as good as Joe Haden at UF. Kirkpatrick has got all the tools to be a great DB &amp; will most likely be the 2nd CB off the board after Mo Claiborne but I still think as far as production at the next level, Jenkins has got the edge. </font>


I wouldn't be at all surprised by that. Janoris Jenkins is going to be helluva player in the NFL.

Raptor22
01-31-2012, 02:12 PM
So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).

Edit: I also wonder if Dontari Poe (DT-Memphis) isn't also on JR's radar... Dude is just MASSIVE at 6'5" 350, and with long arms to boot. From what I've read about him he moves far better than any man that size has any right to. Sideline Scouting compares him to Ngata.

I'd hate to be an O-lineman with him an Joseph in the middle... Who do you double? Both? then that leaves Tuck or JPP singled and the other one only gets chipped or gets a TE/RB to block them.

Redeyejedi
01-31-2012, 02:35 PM
So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him

Raptor22
01-31-2012, 04:59 PM
So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him

Thankya sir. That's about the read I've been getting. Right now, ya gotta feel as though the G-Men's D-line is the best place in the league for "raw" high-upside guys. Plenty of time to grow, and a phenomenal group to learn from.

I edited it in after you posted, but any thoughts on Poe (not just Redeye)?

Redeyejedi
01-31-2012, 07:09 PM
So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him

Thankya sir. That's about the read I've been getting. Right now, ya gotta feel as though the G-Men's D-line is the best place in the league for "raw" high-upside guys. Plenty of time to grow, and a phenomenal group to learn from.

I edited it in after you posted, but any thoughts on Poe (not just Redeye)?
Havent seen much of him not enough to give a good opinion

Redeyejedi
01-31-2012, 07:31 PM
What people have to remember with Brockers is he is still young.Compare him as a Soph to Still as a Soph ,Fletcher Cox,Fairly,Suh or Worthy he has better tape. It is a risk but if he takes the jump like the other tackles seem to do in that Junior year your getting an elite talent

Raptor22
02-01-2012, 11:30 AM
And now for some hump-day fun... Mock Draft Round Up!
<u>
NFL.com</u>
(note: most of these are from last week or older, so they're probably picks for the '9ers)

Bucky Brooks: Dont'A Hightower (ILB, Alabama)
Elliot Harrison: Mohamed Sanu (WR, Rutgers)
Chad Reuter: Alshon Jeffery (WR, SC)
Charles Davis: Alshon Jeffery
Albert Breer: Alshon Jeffery
Adam Rank: Mohamed Sanu
Micheal Fabiano: Dwight Jones (WR, NC)
Matt Smith: Coby Fleener (TE, Stanford)
Pat Kirwan: Mohamed Sanu
Heath Evans: Dontari Poe (DT, Memphis)
Steve Wyche: Mohamed Sanu
Dave Dameshek: Alshon Jeffery
Jason Smith: Mohamed Sanu
<u>
CBS Scouting
</u>Rob Rang: Mike Adams (OT, Ohio State)
Dane Brugler: Cordy Glenn (OG, Georgia)

<u>Walter Football</u>
Round 1: Dwayne Allen (TE, Clemson)
Round 2: Brandon Boykin (CB, Georgia)
Round 3: Nate Potter (OT/G, Boise)
Round 4: James-Micheal Johnson (ILB, Nevada)

-Charlie Cambell-
Round 1: Vontaze Burfict (ILB, Arizona St.)
Round 2: Bobbie Massey (OT, Ole Miss)
Round 3: Ryan Miller (G, Colorado)
Round 4: Bernard Pierce (RB, Temple)

I think that's enough for now...

slipknottin
02-01-2012, 12:40 PM
ya, if you click on the nfl.com ones it shows them reversed.

So heres nfl.com

Bucky - Hightower
Davis - Hightower
Reuter - Poe
Harrison - Mike Adams
Breer - Hightower


and thats all i have.

bLuereverie
02-01-2012, 01:22 PM
Evans - Kuechly
Wyche- Burfict
Dameshek - Osemele

obviously dated

Raptor22
02-01-2012, 01:30 PM
ya, if you click on the nfl.com ones it shows them reversed.

So heres nfl.com

Bucky - Hightower
Davis - Hightower
Reuter - Poe
Harrison - Mike Adams
Breer - Hightower


and thats all i have.

That looks more likely, but honestly, even if 'Rio doesn't leave, I think I'd rather have Jeffery or Sanu than Hightower. I don't really like him for our D, at least now, before the combine. (with the caveat that if JR were to pick him up, I'll support the decision. JR's earned that, at least).

Then again, I have plenty of faith in the receiving corps' depth behind
'Rio. I don't doubt that Barden/Thomas/Jernigan would step up into the
#3 receiver role and play well.

The more I read about him, I DO like the Poe pick.

Scouting report (Sideline Scouting):


<u>Dontari Poe (DT, Memphis) 6'5" 350</u>

Positives -- Massive size, dominates the line of scrimmage,
demands double teams due to his sheer size, occupies blockers and clogs
up running lanes, collapses the pocket with power... Has the reputation
as a workout warrior, very impressive strength, looks every bit of 350
pounds but carries his weight<span align="left"> </span>well because of his height, penetrates easily in one-on-one
situations... Unreal combination of size, strength and length, thick
trunk and long arms, doesn't let blockers latch on, gets his hands up in
passing lanes when he can't get to the quarterback... Surprising
athleticism, impressive first step, consistent get-off, good initial
quickness, can beat linemen with his get-off and one move; reasonably
good COD, runs well for a big man... Can penetrate into the backfield to
disrupt running plays... Adequate range, chases the action out to the
flanks, reliable tackler, ball carrier goes down even if Poe just gets a
piece of him, a powerful hitter who can jar the ball loose... Plays
with a better motor than given credit for, stays active, doesn't take
plays off... Has played in all but one game during his collegiate
career, missed 2009 Houston game due to a death in the family... Will
probably be the first nose tackle off the board, can play multiple
positions and is scheme diverse, will be a hot commodity as more teams
move toward a 3-4 base defense; has lined up at tackle and end for
Memphis, projects to defensive tackle, nose tackle or 5-technique in the
NFL... Will be over-drafted because of his size and strength and
because his ceiling is through the roof; works hard, mature, team
captain, so his potential is attainable with good coaching... Would like
to see him used similarly to how the Ravens use Haloti Ngata, would
best utilize his combination of strength and length, could still swing
inside in certain packages, really don't see him playing full-time at
nose tackle in a three-man front.



Negatives -- Pass rush ability is subpar despite impressive
get-off, struggles to disengage once blocked, limited potential in this
area, only flashes a rip move and nothing else... Lacks the anchor and
balance of an elite 3-4 nose tackle prospect and disappeared for
stretches at a time playing at Memphis; moving him off the line of
scrimmage is easier than expected... Doesn't always maintain gap
responsibilities, blockers can easily seal him out of the play... Lacks
ideal awareness of the ball carrier, he often ends up out of position to
prevent backs from crossing the line of scrimmage... Staying low is
difficult, comes out of his stance too high and can be driven off the
ball; his height serves as a disadvantage, shorter centers have the
natural leverage advantage and can get their hands into his chest,
doesn't disengage well versus double teams... Gives up a ton of leverage
at 6'5", ideal 3-4 nose tackle height is around 6'1" or 6'2" such as
Casey Hampton, Vince Wilfork, Aubrayo Franklin or B.J. Raji... His
ability to line up at nose tackle in a three-man front is questioned due
to his lack of leverage and balance, has the size of a 3-4 nose but not
the skill set, would be a more natural fit in a 4-3 or as a 3-4 DE
(5-technique), doesn't project to 3-4 nose as well as his weight would
suggest... A boom or bust prospect who isn't near NFL-ready, very raw,
technique needs work, lacks polish, draft stock is based mostly on
potential at this point, needs significant development before he is even
ready to be included as part of a rotation, will take a season or two
before he develops into a real force inside... He is probably a fourth
round prospect right now on tape that will go in either the first or
second round based on his size, strength and potential, is overrated
because of freakish athletic tools... Lack of competition playing in
Conference USA, wasn't very productive in college and didn't stand out
on tape like a top prospect should versus a lower-tier FBS conference.

titwio
02-02-2012, 03:19 AM
Redeye....Do you have any tape on Stephon Gilmore?

Neverend
02-04-2012, 03:32 AM
Michael Brockers is a very, very talented tackle. Long arms, great burst, extremely high upside .. tremendous fit for the Giants.

Flying under the radar right now. By draft time I fully expect him to be in top 15 talk. No way he makes it to the giants

Redeyejedi
02-04-2012, 03:45 AM
Michael Brockers is a very, very talented tackle. Long arms, great burst, extremely high upside .. tremendous fit for the Giants.

Flying under the radar right now. By draft time I fully expect him to be in top 15 talk. No way he makes it to the giantsI dont think he is under the radar ive seen plenty of people put him in the Top 10.His tape doesnt really deserve that grade though.If i was grading on his tape alone and not his upside potential he would be a 2nd round pick

Redeyejedi
02-04-2012, 10:04 AM
ya, if you click on the nfl.com ones it shows them reversed.

So heres nfl.com

Bucky - Hightower
Davis - Hightower
Reuter - Poe
Harrison - Mike Adams
Breer - Hightower


and thats all i have.I think Mike Adams would be the slam dunk choice for the Giants if he was there I just dont see him being available.I look at Mock drafts and see him hovering in there neighborhood.I just dont see someone with that size and level of athleticism at LT lasting to 32.

Redeyejedi
02-04-2012, 10:08 AM
Redeye....Do you have any tape on Stephon Gilmore?I have a couple games up will put up more

Stephon Gilmore vs Nebraska
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fBJfuKfuKA

Stephon Gilmore vs Alabama 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DkEmOdf4Ks

shocknaweny
02-04-2012, 01:03 PM
So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him

Thankya sir. That's about the read I've been getting. Right now, ya gotta feel as though the G-Men's D-line is the best place in the league for "raw" high-upside guys. Plenty of time to grow, and a phenomenal group to learn from.

I edited it in after you posted, but any thoughts on Poe (not just Redeye)?



A DT ...I dunno were gunna have Marvin Austin coming back and Linval Joseph was just drafted in 2010...

What do people think of David Wilson out of Virginia Tech ??

Redeyejedi
02-05-2012, 09:29 AM
So, what does everyone think of Micheal Brockers (DT-LSU)?

Supposedly he got a late 1st/ early 2nd from the advisory board. He's got the Size/Speed combo that the G-Men like. This seems to be shaping up to be a decent DT class, even if the DE's are lacking. (not as great as last year, but still good).
People seem to love him or hate him. I see a very athletic long defender that isnt a finished product yet "RS Soph". A lot of times Tackels arent overly productive till there Junior years. The upside here is very high and if he was available i would be all for drafting him

Thankya sir. That's about the read I've been getting. Right now, ya gotta feel as though the G-Men's D-line is the best place in the league for "raw" high-upside guys. Plenty of time to grow, and a phenomenal group to learn from.

I edited it in after you posted, but any thoughts on Poe (not just Redeye)?
Havent seen much at all of Poe. There r like 2 games up from 2010 thats it.

Just saw that Cam Johnson has a sickle cell trait.He cant handle playing a lot of snaps,he just wears down.He probably can only play 25-30 snaps a game. He really has a nice explosion off the edge though and the giants are one team that limiting snaps wouldnt be a big deal. There r about 90 NFL players with the same trait one being Geno Atkins

slipknottin
02-05-2012, 11:05 AM
There r about 90 NFL players with the same trait one being Geno Atkins

Did not know that, Atkins plays a ton of snaps though.

BlueSanta
02-06-2012, 06:30 AM
I know we are a BPA team, but considering how that Superbowl went, I think TE may have just gone to the top of the need chart.

Beckum is our only TE signed for 2012, and he tore his ACL.

heavyhitter
02-06-2012, 08:01 AM
I know we are a BPA team, but considering how that Superbowl went, I think TE may have just gone to the top of the need chart.

Beckum is our only TE signed for 2012, and he tore his ACL.


<font size="2">I don't think it went to the top but it definitely is a concern. Beckum tore his right ACL and Ballard sprained his knee. Pretty sure Bear Pascoe and Jake Ballard are RFA's. You got any TE's in mind?</font>

titwio
02-06-2012, 08:06 AM
There's two definite possibilities....Either Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener. Fleener is 6'6 and bigger than Allen. He would probably be more on the Giants radar IMO but I don't think there's any way the Giants take him in the first.

BlueSanta
02-06-2012, 08:15 AM
I know we are a BPA team, but considering how that Superbowl went, I think TE may have just gone to the top of the need chart.

Beckum is our only TE signed for 2012, and he tore his ACL.


<font size="2">I don't think it went to the top but it definitely is a concern. Beckum tore his right ACL and Ballard sprained his knee. Pretty sure Bear Pascoe and Jake Ballard are RFA's. You got any TE's in mind?</font>


Ballard is a RFA. Pascoe is not.

Initial reports were a sprained knee on Ballard. I would be surprised if
that remains the case after further evaluation. He could not put any
weight on it after reinjuring it on the sideline.


The typical recovery period for ACL would not have Beckum ready for the 2012 season. Even if he were ready, he would be severely diminished(think Hixon this year with even less recovery time.)



Again, that means there is a very real posibility that we have zero TEs on the roster available to play next season.

No other position on the roster is this void. It has to be up there on the need chart. Its not alone , but it is at the top.

And I agree with Ti2, Fleener and Allen are the best fits for what we do.

heavyhitter
02-06-2012, 08:32 AM
I know we are a BPA team, but considering how that Superbowl went, I think TE may have just gone to the top of the need chart.

Beckum is our only TE signed for 2012, and he tore his ACL.


<font size="2">I don't think it went to the top but it definitely is a concern. Beckum tore his right ACL and Ballard sprained his knee. Pretty sure Bear Pascoe and Jake Ballard are RFA's. You got any TE's in mind?</font>


Ballard is a RFA. Pascoe is not.

Initial reports were a sprained knee on Ballard. I would be surprised if
that remains the case after further evaluation. He could not put any
weight on it after reinjuring it on the sideline.


The typical recovery period for ACL would not have Beckum ready for the 2012 season. Even if he were ready, he would be severely diminished(think Hixon this year with even less recovery time.)



Again, that means there is a very real posibility that we have zero TEs on the roster available to play next season.

No other position on the roster is this void. It has to be up there on the need chart. Its not alone , but it is at the top.

And I agree with Ti2, Fleener and Allen are the best fits for what we do.


<font size="2">Yea, Beckum isn't gonna be able to go for the 2012 season but I would think Ballard gets resigned. I think TE/FB Bear Pascoe gets resigned as well (great at blocking). So that leaves Ballard &amp; Pascoe at TE. I like Ballard and what he has done for the Giants this year but we could use another guy like you're saying. Who do you have in mind besides Allen and Fleener?</font>

heavyhitter
02-06-2012, 08:37 AM
There's two definite possibilities....Either Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener. Fleener is 6'6 and bigger than Allen. He would probably be more on the Giants radar IMO but I don't think there's any way the Giants take him in the first.<font size="2">What about Michael Egnew (Missouri), 6"6, 245 lbs. Could possibly be around in the 3rd to 4th round range. Thoughts?</font>

Redeyejedi
02-06-2012, 08:47 AM
There's two definite possibilities....Either Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener. Fleener is 6'6 and bigger than Allen. He would probably be more on the Giants radar IMO but I don't think there's any way the Giants take him in the first.<FONT size=2>What about Michael Egnew (Missouri), 6"6, 245 lbs. Could possibly be around in the 3rd to 4th round range. Thoughts?</FONT>
Egnew is way to soft and nowhere near as explosive as Fleener very similar to Chase Coffman.

heavyhitter
02-06-2012, 08:57 AM
There's two definite possibilities....Either Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener. Fleener is 6'6 and bigger than Allen. He would probably be more on the Giants radar IMO but I don't think there's any way the Giants take him in the first.<font size="2">What about Michael Egnew (Missouri), 6"6, 245 lbs. Could possibly be around in the 3rd to 4th round range. Thoughts?</font>
Egnew is way to soft and nowhere near as explosive as Fleener very similar to Chase Coffman.<font size="2">Realize Fleener has got much more to offer in terms of talent, but he's also projected as a what, late 1st, early 2nd rounder. Do you think the Giants are going to target at TE that early in the draft?</font>

slipknottin
02-06-2012, 09:21 AM
Realize Fleener has got much more to offer in terms of talent, but he's also projected as a what, late 1st, early 2nd rounder. Do you think the Giants are going to target at TE that early in the draft?</font>


wouldnt be the first time they took a TE in the first.

Realistically you have to consider the 32nd overall pick as more of an early 2nd in terms of value. That late in the first positions you normally wouldnt target in the first are considered, TE, S, G/C, etc.

Redeyejedi
02-06-2012, 09:32 AM
There's two definite possibilities....Either Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener. Fleener is 6'6 and bigger than Allen. He would probably be more on the Giants radar IMO but I don't think there's any way the Giants take him in the first.<FONT size=2>What about Michael Egnew (Missouri), 6"6, 245 lbs. Could possibly be around in the 3rd to 4th round range. Thoughts?</FONT>
Egnew is way to soft and nowhere near as explosive as Fleener very similar to Chase Coffman.<FONT size=2>Realize Fleener has got much more to offer in terms of talent, but he's also projected as a what, late 1st, early 2nd rounder. Do you think the Giants are going to target at TE that early in the draft?</FONT>
Depends who is on the board. I think its a possibilty. I just dont think there that similar besides size.Egnew isnt fluid like Fleener. He is a fineese TE without an explosive element to his game. I would take Ladarius Green before him

Redeyejedi
02-06-2012, 09:36 AM
Realize Fleener has got much more to offer in terms of talent, but he's also projected as a what, late 1st, early 2nd rounder. Do you think the Giants are going to target at TE that early in the draft?</FONT>
wouldnt be the first time they took a TE in the first. Realistically you have to consider the 32nd overall pick as more of an early 2nd in terms of value. That late in the first positions you normally wouldnt target in the first are considered, TE, S, G/C, etc. I think Mark Barron is in play there,Coby Fleener,Dwayne Allen,maybe even Orson Charles.

critters
02-06-2012, 10:36 AM
He lacks the size we probably want, but I really like Orson Charles. He's probably the quickest TE in the draft. He'd be a GREAT offensive threat for us and his blocking is decent.

Raptor22
02-06-2012, 12:10 PM
There's two definite possibilities....Either Dwayne Allen or Coby Fleener. Fleener is 6'6 and bigger than Allen. He would probably be more on the Giants radar IMO but I don't think there's any way the Giants take him in the first.<font size="2">What about Michael Egnew (Missouri), 6"6, 245 lbs. Could possibly be around in the 3rd to 4th round range. Thoughts?</font>
Egnew is way to soft and nowhere near as explosive as Fleener very similar to Chase Coffman.<font size="2">Realize Fleener has got much more to offer in terms of talent, but he's also projected as a what, late 1st, early 2nd rounder. Do you think the Giants are going to target at TE that early in the draft?</font>
Depends who is on the board. I think its a possibilty. I just dont think there that similar besides size.Egnew isnt fluid like Fleener. He is a fineese TE without an explosive element to his game. I would take Ladarius Green before him

This

If there's a guy on the board that the Giants think is a top-15 pick, they're taking him regardless of whether or not there's a "Need" on the board.

Then again, free agency hasn't happened yet, I don't think there's ANY doubt that the Giants will re-sign Pascoe and Ballard. There's also the possibility that they could go after Finley.

(I don't THINK JR's going to make the splashy/expensive move, but when there's something that obviously needs to be fixed, he ain't bashful about it.)

BlueSanta
02-06-2012, 01:58 PM
Normally I would say "TC and the Giants like their TEs tight to the line and Fleener and Allen seem to be the TE best suited for that."

However, look at the whole picture:
-We will be hard pressed to resign MM
- Beckum is not going to be ready till well into 2012, if at all.
- Ballard and Pascoe are both going to hit the FA market.
- JJ is best suited as a slot guy, but Cruz thrives in the slot. So as long as Cruz is here, i do not know how JJ will see much playtime.
- Barden could fill a role on the outside, but he is unproven and injury prone so far.

It all adds up to 1 thing. A versatile TE who can line up tight to the line, or line up outside might be just what we need to kill 2 holes with 1 player. If we can resign Ballard, and/or Pascoe we would still have a void.

I like Fleener a lot, especially if he can get a hair stronger. Allen catches the ball very well and had the body type to play tight to the line even if he didnt do it much at Clemson. He is also a very physical when going up to snatch the ball out of the air, something that will be valuable in the red zone. Egnew is more of a wr/ TE hybrid but he is certainly a good fluid athlete. I think he will go slightly above where he is currently projected mostly because of the "in Vogue" trend of TE/ WR hybrid.

EliTE
02-06-2012, 02:02 PM
i think our biggest needs are o-line and TE. when the patriots sacked eli on a 3 man rush that says it all.

on D we could use another corner as well as a LB. but i feel like we should make our strength even stronger as far as making our offense even better. with eli we'll be a top offense as long as we can protect him with a better O-line and keep weapons around him.

Redeyejedi
02-06-2012, 02:49 PM
Marijuana charge against Dre Kirkpatrick has been dismissed thats good news for him

tonyt830
02-06-2012, 02:56 PM
I know we are still approximately 1 month away from FA and 2 months till the draft. I hope we can re-sign Pascoe and Ballard.</P>


</P>


Now we know the Giants will be drafting at 32 rather than the 18 to 22 range. Like slip and others mentioned, picking at 32 is close enough to getting 2nd rd value.</P>


</P>


I personally would like to see Fleener or Allen at 32, or the best available O-linemen. But who knows, maybe Reese trades out of that pick and picks up an extra mid rd pick along the way?</P>

slipknottin
02-06-2012, 02:59 PM
Saw a mock draft earlier today that had Keuchly falling all the way to 32 because of his "average" athleticism.

How interesting would that be.

titwio
02-06-2012, 03:34 PM
Saw a mock draft earlier today that had Keuchly falling all the way to 32 because of his "average" athleticism.

How interesting would that be.

It would interestingly mean he would end up in blue.

I would have no complaints with it either. Seriously there is no way he goes to 32...I'm calling fraud.

gmen0820
02-06-2012, 03:37 PM
6'7 320 with 36" arms.Very impressive.

Redeyejedi
02-06-2012, 03:41 PM
Saw a mock draft earlier today that had Keuchly falling all the way to 32 because of his "average" athleticism.

How interesting would that be.I like the Nevada MLB James Michael Johnson a lot. Plays with a mean streak as well.

Redeyejedi
02-07-2012, 11:15 AM
Combine invites. LOL Joe Admas real name is Adam Adams</P>


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<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">CLEMSON</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">TE01</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">TE</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-9 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ALLEN, JEFFERY</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">JEFF</TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ILLINOIS</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OL02</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OT</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-10 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ANDERSON, JUSTIN</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">GEORGIA</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OL03</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OT</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-11 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ANGER, BRYAN</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">CALIFORNIA</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">PK01</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">PT</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-12 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ASPER, MARK</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OREGON</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OL04</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OG</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-13 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">*</TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BAKER, EDWIN</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">MICHIGAN ST</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">RB01</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OH</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-14 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BAKER, RYAN</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">LOUISIANA ST</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">LB02</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OB</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-15 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">*</TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BALL, MIKE</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">NEVADA</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">RB02</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OH</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-16 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BALLARD, VICK</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">MISSISSIPPI ST</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">RB03</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OH</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-17 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BARRON, MARK</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ALABAMA</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">DB02</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">SS</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-18 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BEACHUM, KELVIN</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">SMU</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OL05</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">OT</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-19 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BENFORD, TIMOTHY</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">TIM</TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">TENNESSEE TECH</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">WO02</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">WO</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-20 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BENJAMIN, TRAVIS</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">MIAMI-FL</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">WO03</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">WO</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-21 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BENTLEY, DWIGHT</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">LOUISIANA-LAFAYETTE</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">DB03</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">DC</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-22 even">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BEQUETTE, GEORGE</TD>
<TD class=column-3 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">JAKE</TD>
<TD class=column-4 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">ARKANSAS</TD>
<TD class=column-5 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">DL03</TD>
<TD class=column-6 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(255,255,255); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">DE</TD></TR>
<TR class="row-23 odd">
<TD class=column-1 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial"></TD>
<TD class=column-2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 4px; BORDER-TOP: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 4px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 4px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: top; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; COLOR: rgb(61,61,61); PADDING-TOP: 4px; BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(89,89,89) 1px solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(240,240,246); TEXT-ALIGN: left; border-image: initial">BERGSTROM, TONY</TD>
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BlueSanta
02-07-2012, 11:16 AM
Saw a mock draft earlier today that had Keuchly falling all the way to 32 because of his "average" athleticism.

How interesting would that be.

I'd glady take that "average athleticism" at 32 and ride it all the way to the pro bowl.

Redeyejedi
02-07-2012, 11:17 AM
Saw a mock draft earlier today that had Keuchly falling all the way to 32 because of his "average" athleticism. How interesting would that be. It would interestingly mean he would end up in blue. I would have no complaints with it either. Seriously there is no way he goes to 32...I'm calling fraud.Depends how he tests at the combine.If he tests poorly he could drop into the early 2nd.

Raptor22
02-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Saw a mock draft earlier today that had Keuchly falling all the way to 32 because of his "average" athleticism. How interesting would that be. It would interestingly mean he would end up in blue. I would have no complaints with it either. Seriously there is no way he goes to 32...I'm calling fraud.Depends how he tests at the combine.If he tests poorly he could drop into the early 2nd.

Even if he has an "average" combine I could see him falling... And I think his instincts/mental footwork makes him look faster than he is (he's definitely fluid though).

Herz, Kuechly, and Boley together would make for a damn fine LB corp.

Raptor22
02-07-2012, 01:25 PM
Supposedly Alabama S, Mark Barron will be out until July/August with a double hernia

If that's true, that could KILL his stock. Tough break...

NCGiant23
02-07-2012, 01:41 PM
Supposedly Alabama S, Mark Barron will be out until July/August with a double hernia

If that's true, that could KILL his stock. Tough break...
I can't imagine a double hernia would keep you out that long. Heck I had a double hernia and I was back quickly. These guys are in infinitely better shape than me, so I just don't see that happening.

bLuereverie
02-07-2012, 01:53 PM
Supposedly Alabama S, Mark Barron will be out until July/August with a double hernia

If that's true, that could KILL his stock. Tough break...


Makes for greater value pick for whatever team does pick him up.


Marijuana charge against Dre Kirkpatrick has been dismissed thats good news for him

Regardless, I think the damage has been done to even be involved in anything like this this close to the combine. It's not about the what, but when.

Redeyejedi
02-07-2012, 02:16 PM
Supposedly Alabama S, Mark Barron will be out until July/August with a double hernia

If that's true, that could KILL his stock. Tough break...
I can't imagine a double hernia would keep you out that long.* Heck I had a double hernia and I was back quickly.* These guys are in infinitely better shape than me, so I just don't see that happening.
He will miss all of the mini camps will be ready for camp though

lawl
02-07-2012, 07:57 PM
I have zero interest in a first round linebacker now, regardless of what linebackers are still available. I think it's a virtual lock that of these three positions: OT, CB, or TE; there will be a player that will provide us with more value/impact than any linebacker in this draft could.

slipknottin
02-07-2012, 08:21 PM
I have zero interest in a first round linebacker now, regardless of what linebackers are still available. I think it's a virtual lock that of these three positions: OT, CB, or TE; there will be a player that will provide us with more value/impact than any linebacker in this draft could.

only LB i would have interest in is Kuechly.

Redeyejedi
02-07-2012, 08:32 PM
I have zero interest in a first round linebacker now, regardless of what linebackers are still available. I think it's a virtual lock that of these three positions: OT, CB, or TE; there will be a player that will provide us with more value/impact than any linebacker in this draft could.

only LB i would have interest in is Kuechly.I like Bobby Wagner and James Michael Johnson think both of those guys are nice players

lawl
02-07-2012, 08:51 PM
I have zero interest in a first round linebacker now, regardless of what linebackers are still available. I think it's a virtual lock that of these three positions: OT, CB, or TE; there will be a player that will provide us with more value/impact than any linebacker in this draft could.

only LB i would have interest in is Kuechly.I like Bobby Wagner and James Michael Johnson think both of those guys are nice players

In the first round? I think that's what he means

Neverend
02-07-2012, 09:07 PM
Haven't really heard much about Travis Lewis lately. The guy is still a talented linebacker with great instincts, speed, and athleticism. His size is a concern though in man coverage against big TEs.

I would take him at the bottom of the 2nd

slipknottin
02-07-2012, 09:41 PM
Haven't really heard much about Travis Lewis lately. The guy is still a talented linebacker with great instincts, speed, and athleticism. His size is a concern though in man coverage against big TEs.

I would take him at the bottom of the 2nd

Yep, if hes there has to be strongly considered. He can play MLB in a tampa 2. Perfect for what the giants are looking for.

Raptor22
02-07-2012, 10:03 PM
Haven't really heard much about Travis Lewis lately. The guy is still a talented linebacker with great instincts, speed, and athleticism. His size is a concern though in man coverage against big TEs.

I would take him at the bottom of the 2nd

Yep, if hes there has to be strongly considered. He can play MLB in a tampa 2. Perfect for what the giants are looking for.

My only worry with Lewis is his health... especially on this team.

slipknottin
02-07-2012, 10:15 PM
My only worry with Lewis is his health... especially on this team.

I dont think there are any injury concerns with him.

BlueSanta
02-08-2012, 09:56 AM
My only worry with Lewis is his health... especially on this team.

I dont think there are any injury concerns with him.

He played much of this past season with a broken toe that really effected his mobility. But, I am with Slip, I havent seen anything about his injury being long term. I think he is a good player.

heavyhitter
02-09-2012, 04:12 PM
<font size="2">Florida prospects invited to the 2012 NFL Combine :
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<font size="4"><u>Florida</u></font>
<font size="2">RB Chris Rainey
RB Jeff Demps
DT Jaye Howard
CB Janoris Jenkins (UNA)</font>

<font size="4"><u>Florida State</u></font>
<font size="2">OT Zebrie Sanders
LB Nigel Bradham
OT Andrew Datko
CB Mike Harris
TE Beau Reliford
P Shawn Powell</font>

<font size="4"><u>Miami</u></font>
<font size="2">RB Lamar Miller
DT Marcus Forston
DE Oliver Vernon
LB Sean Spence
WR Tommy Streeter
OT Brandon Washington
QB Jacory Harris
WR Travis Benjamin</font>

heavyhitter
02-09-2012, 04:16 PM
<font size="4"><u>USF
<font size="2">RB Darrell Scott</font>

</u>Florida International<u>
<font size="2">WR Ty Hilton
</font>
FAU
<font size="2">RB Alfred Morris</font>
</u></font><font size="4"></font>

Kase-1
02-09-2012, 07:06 PM
I really want to see us look at a RT that can step in immediately and help us with the run game. Kareem Mackenzie is on the heavy down slide of his career and we need to bring the run game in to the top 5, back to where its supposed to be.

Im not really sure who's out there, but Id want us to look RT or a CB that could step in and play for us from the start.

heavyhitter
02-13-2012, 05:24 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>

BlueSanta
02-13-2012, 06:57 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>

As I said in another thread, I do not think it is rumor anymore. Check<u> this pic of him prior to the last season (http://www.razorbackattack.com/forum/index.php?topic=8161.0)</u>(yep, he is #1 on the left.)

I think he lost some of that Blubber before last season was over, but still, this kid may end up as a h-back/ TE in the NFL if he doesnt find a dietitian quickly.

BTW, the guy on the right(#6) is Melvin Ingram SCs talented DE. He was measured at the senior bowl as 6' 1 7/8 and 276. I know cameras can play tricks, but are you telling me that Alshon is over 3 inches taller than that guy and 50 lbs lighter? SC might have some splaining to do on that 1.

heavyhitter
02-13-2012, 07:53 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>

As I said in another thread, I do not think it is rumor anymore. Check<u> this pic of him prior to the last season (http://www.razorbackattack.com/forum/index.php?topic=8161.0)</u>(yep, he is #1 on the left.)

I think he lost some of that Blubber before last season was over, but still, this kid may end up as a h-back/ TE in the NFL if he doesnt find a dietitian quickly.

BTW, the guy on the right(#6) is Melvin Ingram SCs talented DE. He was measured at the senior bowl as 6' 1 7/8 and 276. I know cameras can play tricks, but are you telling me that Alshon is over 3 inches taller than that guy and 50 lbs lighter? SC might have some splaining to do on that 1.


<font size="2">Alshon better tighten up if he wants to get paid that 1st round money. You forgot to mention Mr. Lattimore (#21). I say he runs for over 1,000 yards this season and declares early &amp; will be a 1st round pick. Sound about right?</font>



http://rosterwatch.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/alshonfatpic.jpg (http://rosterwatch.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/alshonfatpic.jpg)</p>




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Redeyejedi
02-13-2012, 08:28 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>The Draft guys I converse with say he is in Tampa we shall see

heavyhitter
02-13-2012, 08:44 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>The Draft guys I converse with say he is in Tampa we shall see<font size="2">What draft guys do you converse with? Do you talk w/ Joe Everett?</font>

Redeyejedi
02-13-2012, 09:25 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>The Draft guys I converse with say he is in Tampa we shall see<font size="2">What draft guys do you converse with? Do you talk w/ Joe Everett?</font>
Thats the guy that said it right.

Matt Miller from NFL Draft Scout said he was in Tampa.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1064749-nfl-draft-2012-alshon-jeffery-rumors-proved-false-reportedly-in-good-shape

heavyhitter
02-13-2012, 09:32 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>The Draft guys I converse with say he is in Tampa we shall see<font size="2">What draft guys do you converse with? Do you talk w/ Joe Everett?</font>
Thats the guy that said it right.

Matt Miller from NFL Draft Scout said he was in Tampa.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1064749-nfl-draft-2012-alshon-jeffery-rumors-proved-false-reportedly-in-good-shape<font size="2">Yep, Joe Everett. I'm just trying to figure out why dude would make something like this up? If true, Joe Everett just lost all credibility.</font> http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z46/kcochran777/screenshot20120213at410.png

Redeyejedi
02-13-2012, 09:35 PM
<font size="2">What's up w/ Alshon Jeffrey? Word is he's training at </font><span class="st"><font size="2">St Vincents in Indy and weighed in at 249 lbs, and is running in the high 4.8's. Damn- </font>
</span>The Draft guys I converse with say he is in Tampa we shall see<font size="2">What draft guys do you converse with? Do you talk w/ Joe Everett?</font>
Thats the guy that said it right.

Matt Miller from NFL Draft Scout said he was in Tampa.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1064749-nfl-draft-2012-alshon-jeffery-rumors-proved-false-reportedly-in-good-shape<font size="2">Yep, Joe Everett. I'm just trying to figure out why dude would make something like this up? If true, Joe Everett just lost all credibility.</font> http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z46/kcochran777/screenshot20120213at410.png
i doubt he made it up.Who knows who his source was though.Some of these guys have certain agendas.Who knows maybe Miller is wrong