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slipknottin
12-31-2010, 09:25 AM
Prince Amakumara isnt very fast Im not sure if he will run under a 4.55.

Revis was the same coming out. That long TD wasn't his fault, the safety misplayed it

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 10:11 AM
Prince Amakumara isnt very fast Im not sure if he will run under a 4.55. Revis was the same coming out. That long TD wasn't his fault, the safety misplayed itYeah I know, He had a solid game the Washington receivers couldnt get off the line Im just saying he isnt very fast . He uses his hands real well though its 2 bad the Giants have no shot at him. Ive seen that Brandon Harris most likely returning to school. If some of these juniors in this class stay put this draft could be very weak</P>

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 10:22 AM
Prince Amakumara isnt very fast Im not sure if he will run under a 4.55. He is awesome in press coverage thoughlet him get up on a receiver and he dominates his man. He doesnt have recovery speed and can be beat by the long ball. </P>


Jake Locker couldnt throw the football against Nebraska again but he wasnt as horrible as his stats would indicate. 2 terrible looking stat lines</P>


5-16 for 56 yards , 13 carries fr 83 yards</P>


4-20 for 71 yards , 11 carries for 59 yards</P>


Locker needs a lot of work at the next level and after watching Clausen this year I wont ever not factor in winning as a major component from a College QB again.</P>


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yeah he didnt look very good but im wondering if that monster hit he took early had something to do with it. I was really impressed with sturdivant and might be leaning more his way than my boy carter (sry bruce!). quan look very smooth in pass D
Yeah Sturdivant looked very fluid last night. U got a good look at some of his skills. He played realwell in pass coverage. He stayed step for step with Luke Stocker down the seam "something Goff could not do ,no way". They had that miscommunication where he got locked up on the 6-5 freshman receiver Justin Hunter out wide and held his own. Ive had my eye on Sturdivant for a few seasons now I really like his game. He has good instincts and does everything well not necessarily great . I think if he is there the Giants really need to consider him. </P>


If Williams falls because of his injury Id draft him 2</P>

myles2424
12-31-2010, 10:51 AM
Prince Amakumara isnt very fast Im not sure if he will run under a 4.55. Revis was the same coming out. That long TD wasn't his fault, the safety misplayed itYeah I know, He had a solid game the Washington receivers couldnt get off the line Im just saying he isnt very fast . He uses his hands real well though its 2 bad the Giants have no shot at him. Ive seen that Brandon Harris most likely returning to school. If some of these juniors in this class stay put this draft could be very weak</P>


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Weak draft =Make the very best of thefew rounds....</P>


If theres atop guyclose by in the 1st, 2nd , or 3rd i hope we get agressive and make a move...</P>


Our late round draft picks the past few years have been disgusting anyway, trade some picks away....</P>

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 12:26 PM
Im being lazy and I dont feel like writing up all these guys from the Bowl game but here is something I found from a site called Opposing Views. I will be watching Jarvis Jenkins the 6-4 315 pound DT very intently in the first game of the day</P>


http://www.opposingviews.com/topics/sports</P>


http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-previews-sun-liberty-chick-fil-a-bowl</P>


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Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson (JR)
An elite talent both size-wise and <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">athletic</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-previews-sun-liberty-chick-fil-a-bowl#) ability-wise, Bowers had the production to go with his god-given skills. Bowers is a perfect fit for a 4-3 defense and has the athletic talent to be an All-Pro type of talent. A hard working kid off the field as well, he should be a Top 5 pick in the <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">NFL </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Draft</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-previews-sun-liberty-chick-fil-a-bowl#) and a major factor in this game.</P>


DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson
McDaniel hasn't been as consistent this year as he would have liked, but McDaniel has a great athletic build and moves well as a center fielder at free safety. He's an elite talent who can make plays in the run and pass game, and he still is a fringe 1st round prospect.</P>


Jarvis Jenkins, DT, Clemson
Jenkins could have come out last year and been a mid-round pick, but came back this season and really benefited from both another year to develop as well as play on the same line as the nation's best pass rusher. Jenkins moves well for a defensive tackle and should be a great fit for a 3-4 pass rushing team or a 3-technique in a Cover 2 4-3.</P>


Jamie Harper, RB, Clemson (JR)
He started out the season as back-up, but quickly emerged as the focal rotational back for this offense and has been very impressive with great deep speed and shiftiness in the hole and on the outside. Harper could very well declare early for the draft, but either way, he should be a hassle for this South Florida defense.</P>


Terrell McClain, DT, South Florida
McClain hasn't been overly impressive this year, but that's to be expected with some undersized defensive ends and linebackers on this roster. He has subject to almost consistent double teams, but his ability to stay aggressive for the most part should give him a chance at the next level to be a starter.</P>


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Allen Bailey, DE, Miami (FL)
One of the more physical defensive ends in the country, Bailey has the athletic ability, lateral quickness, and open field comfort-ability to play both in space as well as with his hand in the ground. Bailey should be a headache for the <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Notre </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Dame</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-previews-sun-liberty-chick-fil-a-bowl#) offensive line that lacks great talent, and a great game here could give him some extra attention before the draft season.</P>


Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame (JR)
One of the more consistent bright spots on this Notre Dame offense, Floyd has the size, ball grabbing skills, and fluidness in the open field to be an elite receiver at the next level with additional coaching. He needs to improve his routes and be better across the middle, but he has the tools to be an NFL starter and should test this Miami NFL-talented secondary.</P>


Brandon Harris, CB, Miami (FL)
Harris has average size for a cornerback moving to the next level, but his ability to stay on the inside pocket of the receiver and make plays with the ball in the air could separate him to the early rounds in the draft. He has the speed and hips to make it, but needs to show he can be more physical at the line and he can cover across the field in crossing routes.</P>


Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami (FL)
Has been somewhat of a surprise for this very talented Hurricanes receiving corps, Hankerson emerged as the team's go to option in the middle to deep routes, and has really improved his route running and hands this year. With good workouts he could go as high as the bottom of the first round, but either way, he should be the top target for his team in this one.</P>


Orlando Franklin, OG, Miami (FL)
Franklin shifted out to tackle this year, and has done a great job protecting the quarterbacks all season long and showing that he can slide laterally very well, enough to be considered as a possible Brandon Albert-like talent. However, I still think his best fit is as a dominating guard, and he'll get a chance to show his run blocking power as his team tries to control the game.</P>


Sean Spence, ILB, Miami (FL) (JR)
An undersized linebacker who has played both inside and outside in his career, Sean Spence is, as usual for an undersized linebacker, has been very impressive in coverage at times for his position and has the quickness to be a very rangy linebacker. He could move to strong safety in some systems, but his best fit would be for a Cover 2 defense, as he can be a linebacker in the NFL with a little more bulk.</P>


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AJ Green, WR, Georgia (JR)
One of the top two or three receivers in the country no matter who you ask, AJ Green has the size, speed combination that reminds me and probably many others of a Randy Moss type talent. Green has been one of the few bright spots on this young Georgia offense, and his ability to win battles in the air and his ability to get open by himself, he could go as high as the Top 3 in the draft.</P>


Bruce Miller, DE, Central Florida
Central Florida's defense was able to really frustrate C-USA defenses, and a lot of that credit has to go to Bruce Miller, as his ability to generate pressure with some consistency and his athleticism on the outside against the run both helped UCF get to a better bowl and helped himself in his dream of playing in the NFL.</P>


Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia (JR)
Boykin will need to bulk up for the NFL and improve his technique at times, but Boykin has been a fairly reliable cornerback for this pretty young defense. Boykin would do well if he stayed another year in college because he can get stronger as well as become more consistent.</P>


Ben Jones, C, Georgia (JR)
One of the most talented interior lineman in the country, Jones likely won't declare for the draft because of his position, but could eventually be a relatively high pick for his position if he can be more consistent and stay healthy.</P>


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Rodney Hudson, OG, Florida State
Almost unquestioned as the best true guard in this draft class, Hudson came into the season with high expectations and for the most part lived up to them. He's got the size to be a load to get past in the NFL, but where he's most impressive is on the move and resetting his body to have good balance. He isn't an elite guard prospect and may fall out of the 1st round, but he likely will be a starter for a long time in the NFL.</P>


Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
Ponder has been battling injuries to his elbow all season long, and because of that has been erratic at times. Still, based on last year's film and the accuracy he's showed when healthy this year, I still think Ponder has a chance to be a solid NFL quarterback. He'll have a tough final test against South Carolina, but this may be perfect for him to showcase his skills at 100 percent.</P>


Jarriel King, OG, South Carolina
A big bodied left tackle for this South Carolina team at 6'5, 324, he'll likely need to transition inside to guard or at right tackle for a power running team at the next level. He has been inconsistent at times this year and isn't a left tackle for the future because of his slowish feet, but in the guard-type blocks he's had to do this year, he's been impressive.</P>


Markus White, DE, Florida State
White has become a leader for this inexperienced defense and has put up some impressive numbers to go with it. However, speaking of numbers, White's measurables combined with his skill set could make him a perfect fit for the 3-4 defense at the <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">NFL</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-previews-sun-liberty-chick-fil-a-bowl#) level, and he'll get a chance to show that pass rushing skill in this one.</P>

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 12:48 PM
I love watching Daquan Bowers play

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 12:59 PM
This South Florida Guard Jeremiah Warren is pretty good. Maybe a guy to watch in the 2012 draft. Clemson has a massive front 4

slipknottin
12-31-2010, 01:37 PM
I love watching Daquan Bowers play

he reminds me alot of tamba hali coming out, others think he can end up as a 5 tech in a 34.

I think he could play nearly anywhere depending on wether he gains or drops weight.

My one issue with him is im not sure he is going to be a top nfl pass rusher, maybe a 43 strongside DE.

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 02:42 PM
I love watching Daquan Bowers play he reminds me alot of tamba hali coming out, others think he can end up as a 5 tech in a 34. I think he could play nearly anywhere depending on wether he gains or drops weight. My one issue with him is im not sure he is going to be a top nfl pass rusher, maybe a 43 strongside DE.I think he is a strongside end as well. I dont think he will be an athlete pass rusher but he will get his and will be great against the run

CGYgiant
12-31-2010, 02:42 PM
Brandon Harris is not playing Micheal Floyd man to man, its 13 who seems to be following Floyd around on the field..

Isn't Harris Miamis best corner?

CGYgiant
12-31-2010, 02:45 PM
edit, Harris just got burned man to man with Floyd wow

slipknottin
12-31-2010, 02:47 PM
edit, Harris just got burned man to man with Floyd wow


Thats the concern with undersized CBs, Harris just isnt playing physical enough to neutralize Floyd.

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 02:48 PM
I cant believe Harris fell down that should of been an interception . That was great coverage he had position on Floyd

CGYgiant
12-31-2010, 02:49 PM
edit, Harris just got burned man to man with Floyd wow


Thats the concern with undersized CBs, Harris just isnt playing physical enough to neutralize Floyd.

Personally, i don't think the Giants would draft an undersized CB in the first round

slipknottin
12-31-2010, 02:49 PM
I cant believe Harris fell down that should of been an* interception . That was great coverage he had position on Floyd

Floyd just bumped him and Harris fell over like he got hit by a truck.

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 02:54 PM
Jacory Harris is horrible. I cant believe people where saying this guy was a first round draft pick

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 03:26 PM
LOL Miami is so bad on offense what another horrible throw. This must be fun if you play defense for Notre Dame 4 interceptions in 25 minutes. New coaching staff for Miami but christ. There QB's are really bad

Redeyejedi
12-31-2010, 03:35 PM
I cant believe Harris fell down that should of been an interception . That was great coverage he had position on Floyd Floyd just bumped him and Harris fell over like he got hit by a truck.It was pretty sad . He was there .No excuse for that. If your supposed to be a first round corner that just cant happen. When U have position on a player for an interception and u get slight contact and U drop to the ground like that, Thats just weak..Miami looks terrible today and Notre Dame is taking everything that Miami is giving them. Notre Dame looks pretty good on offense, I would like to see Notre Dame get back to being a National power its good for CFB .

nycsportzfan
12-31-2010, 05:20 PM
Harrison Smith having the game of his life today! Loving it!

nycsportzfan
12-31-2010, 05:22 PM
What a bore fest this GA/UCF game has turned out to be...

CGYgiant
12-31-2010, 05:44 PM
Anyone think that Brandon Harris is a lot smaller then 5'11? also, he just doesnt seem like the type of corner the giants would draft..

nycsportzfan
12-31-2010, 10:13 PM
man, another dissapointing game with SC and FLA ST.. As far as i want to see offense! SO many letdown games as far as offense goes..

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 02:08 AM
Anyone think that Brandon Harris is a lot smaller then 5'11? also, he just doesnt seem like the type of corner the giants would draft..


I've been saying for awhile he looks like he's 5'9

nycsportzfan
01-01-2011, 02:26 AM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...

CGYgiant
01-01-2011, 04:06 AM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...


+1 aside from Green this guy looks legit, he had an excellent showing and kind of reminded me of Colston, he should have an excellent NFL career

has anyone watched Aaron Williams the CB out of Texas, play? he declared himself eligible to be drafted and he looks like he has excellent size... although i havent seen him play to be honest..

myles2424
01-01-2011, 04:48 AM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...
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The dudes definetly interesting....I hear he's extremely injury prone though...</P>

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 10:08 AM
I love watching Daquan Bowers play he reminds me alot of tamba hali coming out, others think he can end up as a 5 tech in a 34. I think he could play nearly anywhere depending on wether he gains or drops weight. My one issue with him is im not sure he is going to be a top nfl pass rusher, maybe a 43 strongside DE.What do U think about there tackle Jarvis Jenkins as a4th round type guy. Hewas disappointed in himyesterday . His technique is really bad he gets entirely to high and players get under him pretty easy. He moves from side to side pretty quick andhe has someshort term burst. I see some pass rush upside in him with the right coachingI think he can be a solid 3 tech. Got any thoughts?

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 11:07 AM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...
I like Green better . I think U just like Notre Dame players Sportzfan didnt U have Tate number 1 last year. Floyd did make Harris look bad on that long TD yesterday. Harris had position on him and Floyd touched him with his pinkie and he fell down. Im not much of a NOtre Dame fan but its good for CFB when there a powerhouse. That frosh QB looks pretty good. He wasnt even that highly of recruit but he wins and after watching Clausen struggle this year its something Im not discounting from a QB again.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 11:40 AM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...


+1 aside from Green this guy looks legit, he had an excellent showing and kind of reminded me of Colston, he should have an excellent NFL career

has anyone watched Aaron Williams the CB out of Texas, play? he declared himself eligible to be drafted and he looks like he has excellent size... although i havent seen him play to be honest..

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I keep seeing Aaron Ross when I look at him. He isnt as good as Ross was in College either. Great measurables. I could see the Giants picking him. The 3 most likely corners I see are</P>


1. Jimmy Smith Colorado 6-2 205</P>


2. Aaron Williams Texas 6-1 195</P>


3. Ras I Dowling Virgina 6-2 200</P>


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nycsportzfan
01-01-2011, 12:14 PM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...
I like Green better . I think U just like Notre Dame players Sportzfan didnt U have Tate number 1 last year. Floyd did make Harris look bad on that long TD yesterday. Harris had position on him and Floyd touched him with his pinkie and he fell down. Im not much of a NOtre Dame fan but its good for CFB when there a powerhouse. That frosh QB looks pretty good. He wasnt even that highly of recruit but he wins and after watching Clausen struggle this year its something Im not discounting from a QB again. one thing is, Floyd has been producing no matter who is the QB, and on top of that, i think Rees has looked even better becasue of Floyd.. ND's WR's outside of Floyd are very Averege, and Floyd has been carrying the bulk of the workload, and if not for him, theres no chance that ND plays in and wins the bowl game yesterday.. I loved Golden last yr, and i still think hes gonna be a freaking stud eventually, in the mold of a Johnny Knox type, but Floyd is better, and stronger, and has hands of steel.. The tackles the dude breaks are clear signs hes just stronger then most to all CB's hes gonna face.. I love AJ Green, and realize its a bold statement, but i'll stick by it, and we'll see how it plays out in the nfl... All i know, is someones getting a stud in FLOYD... In the USC Victory for ND, FLOYD had 11catches(did it twice this yr), and the next leading reciever for ND only had 4!! Hes also had multiple TD's like 3times this yr alone... The guys a Redzone Force, and all around stout WR, but i will say, his speed is not that of a mad dasher...

nycsportzfan
01-01-2011, 12:16 PM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...
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The dudes definetly interesting....I hear he's extremely injury prone though...</p> He only missed one game this yr.. He got hurt last yr though... Its a risk, but thats life as a Football player...

nycsportzfan
01-01-2011, 12:24 PM
just wanted to give a shout out to my top rated WR in a loaded positon, mr. michael floyd! A beastly game against the U, going for 2tds and 109yrds.... Dudes got great size, and all though, not a burner, is super strong and has unbelievably strong hands... I keep seeing him down toward the end of RD 1, and someones getting a steal if thats the case... If New England is to end up with this kid, watch out...


+1 aside from Green this guy looks legit, he had an excellent showing and kind of reminded me of Colston, he should have an excellent NFL career

has anyone watched Aaron Williams the CB out of Texas, play? he declared himself eligible to be drafted and he looks like he has excellent size... although i havent seen him play to be honest..

Colston is a solid player to compare to Floyd, i kinda think hes a spitting image of Dwayne Bowe...

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 12:29 PM
Watching the TicketCity Bowl. I really like Barron Batch as a later round RB. He runs really good routes for a RB. I think he wouldnt be a bad 3rd down back option later on.</P>


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Detron Lewis, WR, Texas Tech
Not as athletically talented nor as dominate as Michael Crabtree was in this Texas Tech offense, Lewis still has the size, quickness, and production to play in the NFL. The mild change in system and the lack of consistent quarterback play has hurt his stock a bit, but he should wow in the post season and will be a player to watch against this very average Northwestern secondary.</P>


Baron Batch, RB, Texas Tech
You wouldn't think that a spread, pass happy offense has a running back that could stick in the NFL, but that could very well happen for Baron Batch. He's still be influenced by the spread, wide open offense that the Red Raiders are known for running, but an increased dependence on the run game this year as well as his versatility as a back could lead him to be a mid to late round prospect.</P>


Quentin Davie, OLB, Northwestern
Davie has been the leader of this up and down defense, and has the speed, lateral quickness, and reliability as a tackler to make it at the next level. He'll be tested as a coverage linebacker and blitzing linebacker in this game, as he'll have to play well for this Northwestern team if they hope to win this one.</P>


<SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">Alabama Crimson Tide vs. Michigan State Spartans - <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Capital </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">One </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Bowl</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#)</SPAN></P>


Julio Jones, WR, Alabama (JR)
One of the most physically gifted receivers I've seen in college football as far as the body type and potential, Julio Jones has been the subject to constant double teams and overall pressure to succeed. And while he hasn't been lighting up the stat sheet, he's still being physical, showcasing great hands and ball skills, and demanding attention on every level of his routes.</P>


Marcell Dareus, DE, Alabama (JR)
Dareus was suspended for the early part of the season due to NCAA infractions, but when he came back, you could see why he was featured as the most talented defensive player on their roster. Dareus has a good build for a pass rushing defensive end, and his speed off the edge and versatility in his rushes make him a deadly next level talent.</P>


Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama (JR)
The 2009 <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Heisman </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">trophy</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#) winner suffered a bit of a letdown season this year, thanks to his battle with injuries and the emergence of Trent Richardson. However, what still makes him the top running back that is draft eligible is his vision, anticipation, and quick cuts that allow him to break off big plays without having to break two to three tackles.</P>


Mark Barron, S, Alabama (JR)
Barron has been hit or miss at times this season, but as a whole, I think he's the top safety in this draft class, if he declares. Barron has great ball skills when the ball is towards him, and can come up and lay a big hit on the ball carrier. He needs better instincts overall and to become a more reliable tackler, but he has the ability to be a frontline safety in the NFL in the future.</P>


Greg Jones, ILB, Michigan State
Not only a productive inside linebacker in the Big Ten, Jones has shown that he can play in different schemes and at different positions based on his film. He can clog a hole in the middle of the defense, scrape through traffic on the side, explode to the outside in run support, and has improved his drop back ability. He'll be able to showcase all of those skills against a great running back duo and a senior quarterback.</P>


Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State (JR)
Similar to the fact that we have really liked Blaine Gabbert all season, we really like Kirk Cousins as well. He has an NFL arm, he's improved his touch over the season, and has confidence in his reads and in his receivers, regularly using 4-5 guys. He can still develop his skills outside the pocket and needs to fine tune his accuracy, but I think he has <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">NFL</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#) starter written all over him, and I expect him to at least show those skills in this game, though it'll be tough against an NFL talented defense.</P>


Don'ta Hightower, ILB, Alabama (JR)
Hightower stepped in this season as a replacement for Rolando McClain, and while he wasn't the leader or impact star that McClain was, Hightower filled the role of defensive leader and productive tackler. Hightower, however, does have a bit more speed than McClain, and could be a better fit in a 4-3 defense at outside linebacker at the NFL level.</P>


Darius Hanks, WR, Alabama
A complement to Julius Jones, Hanks has emerged this season and last season thanks to the constant attention to his receiver counterpart. He doesn't have the athletic ability of Jones and isn't a speedy receiver, but he does run good routes, has reliable hands, and can take advantage of man to man.</P>


<SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline"><FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Florida </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Gators</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#) vs. Penn State Nittany Lions - <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Alamo </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Bowl</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#)</SPAN></P>


Mike Pouncey, C, Florida
Twin brother of current <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Pittsburgh </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 400; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Steelers</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#) center and possible top three rookie of the year vote getter Maurkice Pouncey, Mike is quite as nimble or smooth as his brother, but could very well make a big impact in the NFL. He's played center this year, but he can play at either guard spots in the pros, and should be able to start right away in his career.</P>


Stefen Wisniewski, C, Penn State
Arguably the best center prospect in the country, Wisniewski has been a solid starter for all four years of his Penn State career, and that experience has really made him a leader of this team and a smarter center on the field.</P>


Will Hill, S, Florida (JR)
At one point, Hill was viewed as the top safety prospect in the upcoming draft. But Hill was very inconsistent from game to game, quarter to quarter, and gave up too many big plays and was out of position too often. His bright spots on the field plus his great size should still make him a decently high pick, however.</P>


Ahmad Black, S, Florida
Black, along with his fellow safety Will Hill, are both solid NFL draft prospects who have struggled with inconsistencies much of the year. Black has played a little closer to the line this year more than a season ago, and I think that helped him showcase his range in the run game and his better fit as a strong safety.</P>


Jeff Demps, RB, Florida (JR)
One of the fastest backs in the country, Demps was, at times over his career, as explosive and versatile as Percy Harvin was during his time at Florida. Demps isn't a complete running back, and may end up being a lesser version of Reggie Bush in the pros, but his speed, shiftiness, and likely help as a returner could still get him to the middle to high rounds.</P>


Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State (JR)
A guy I really like a lot this whole year because of his pass rush moves, speed off the edge, and quickness, Crawford likely would be smart to stay another year at Penn State to get stronger and be more effective in run support.</P>


Evan Royster, RB, Penn State
Royster came into the year as our top senior running back, and will finish his career atop the Penn State all time rushing leaders, but overall, he hasn't had the type of season we expected. He lacks great overall skills, and best case scenario, he becomes a Pierre Thomas type player.</P>


<SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: underline">Mississippi State Bulldogs vs. <FONT style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: static" color=blue><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Michigan </SPAN><SPAN class=kLink style="FONT-WEIGHT: 700; COLOR: blue! important; FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif; POSITION: relative">Wolverines</SPAN></FONT> (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-bowl-preview-cotton-capital-alamo-gator#) - Gator Bowl</SPAN></P>


Derrick Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State
The foundation for Mississippi State's success this year (along with the coaching of Dan Mullen), Sherrod has developed into more than just a good athlete on the outside of the tackle box. Sherrod has a chance to go even higher if he can move well in pass blocking drills, and he could go as high as the Top 10.</P>


Stephen Schilling, OG, Michigan
A highly touted guard coming out of high school, Schilling finally kicked it in to gear late last year and has now developed into an NFL type guard. He has great size and strength, but his movement as a guard is still in the air, though this season with the spread running attack did make him a bit more agile.</P>


Pernell McPhee, DE, Mississippi State
This Bulldogs program has been down for a while now and has constantly been towards the bottom of the SEC. However, they almost always have one or two players that are among the best in the SEC but struggle to get realized. McPhee is that type of defensive end, and he's as complete as you'll find in the country, but still can fit in a variety of situations.</P>

nycsportzfan
01-01-2011, 12:31 PM
Anyone get to watch Bruce Miller of Central Florida? Hes a undersized DE(6ft 2inch 255lb), with a motor of a madman... I've seen him twice now, and bet against him twice, and hes killed me twice...lol Hes the type of guy who helps make a team a winner, and i woulden't be surprised to see him in the 3rd rd go...

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 12:36 PM
Im leaning towards Demarcus Love as theO-lineman I want.He has manned 4 spots on the Arkansas line before settling in to the weakside tackle role for the Razorbacks. He started games atweakside guardfor a running team with Mcfadden and Jones. Moved to Strongside guard in 08. Moved to Strongside Tackle in 09 and Finally weakside tackle in 2010. With the Giants line in a case of constant flux and no one really having a solid hold ona spot besides Chris Sneehaving Loves versatilitywould be a gigantic plus.He has proved to be an effective pass blocker who has gotten very littledouble team help. Beingthat he is the Weakside Tackle very rarely does a TE line up on his side.He has done a fantastic job on when placed on an island against speed rushers and more power guys. Some people have wrote Love projects better at RT or Guard because of technique andfootwork problems. I think that some of these things have been more to do with the moving around and switching sides . Having to lean a new position each year hasnt allowed him to refine himself at 1 spot. I think when he reaches the NFL, Gets with some NFL coaches on top of all his prior experience, I think the skys the limit. I really like Loves upside and believe he is worthy of a first round pick. If he goes in the 2nd like these draft sites are projecting your getting a huge steal

nycsportzfan
01-01-2011, 12:41 PM
Im leaning towards Demarcus Love as theO-lineman I want.He has manned 4 spots on the Arkansas line before settling in to the weakside tackle role for the Razorbacks. He started games atweakside guardfor a running team with Mcfadden and Jones. Moved to Strongside guard in 08. Moved to Strongside Tackle in 09 and Finally weakside tackle in 2010. With the Giants line in a case of constant flux and no one really having a solid hold ona spot besides Chris Sneehaving Loves versatilitywould be a gigantic plus.He has proved to be an effective pass blocker who has gotten very littledouble team help. Beingthat he is the Weakside Tackle very rarely does a TE line up on his side.He has done a fantastic job on when placed on an island against speed rushers and more power guys. Some people have wrote Love projects better at RT or Guard because of technique andfootwork problems. I think that some of these things have been more to do with the moving around and switching sides . Having to lean a new position each year hasnt allowed him to refine himself at 1 spot. I think when he reaches the NFL, Gets with some NFL coaches on top of all his prior experience, I think the skys the limit. I really like Loves upside and believe he is worthy of a first round pick. If he goes in the 2nd like these draft sites are projecting your getting a huge steal U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....

Blue Sun
01-01-2011, 12:48 PM
U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....

Hey, Sportz, count me in on the Love love! Check your pms when you get a min.

Blue Sun
01-01-2011, 12:48 PM
U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....

Hey, Sportz, count me in on the Love love! Check your pms when you get a min.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 01:14 PM
Im leaning towards Demarcus Love as theO-lineman I want.He has manned 4 spots on the Arkansas line before settling in to the weakside tackle role for the Razorbacks. He started games atweakside guardfor a running team with Mcfadden and Jones. Moved to Strongside guard in 08. Moved to Strongside Tackle in 09 and Finally weakside tackle in 2010. With the Giants line in a case of constant flux and no one really having a solid hold ona spot besides Chris Sneehaving Loves versatilitywould be a gigantic plus.He has proved to be an effective pass blocker who has gotten very littledouble team help. Beingthat he is the Weakside Tackle very rarely does a TE line up on his side.He has done a fantastic job on when placed on an island against speed rushers and more power guys. Some people have wrote Love projects better at RT or Guard because of technique andfootwork problems. I think that some of these things have been more to do with the moving around and switching sides . Having to lean a new position each year hasnt allowed him to refine himself at 1 spot. I think when he reaches the NFL, Gets with some NFL coaches on top of all his prior experience, I think the skys the limit. I really like Loves upside and believe he is worthy of a first round pick. If he goes in the 2nd like these draft sites are projecting your getting a huge steal U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....
I think Love makes the most sense because of the versatility to be put wherever he is needed. With all the versatile guys they can piecce the line together with there 5 best guys. He will probably have to be drafted in the first round

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Im leaning towards Demarcus Love as theO-lineman I want.He has manned 4 spots on the Arkansas line before settling in to the weakside tackle role for the Razorbacks. He started games atweakside guardfor a running team with Mcfadden and Jones. Moved to Strongside guard in 08. Moved to Strongside Tackle in 09 and Finally weakside tackle in 2010. With the Giants line in a case of constant flux and no one really having a solid hold ona spot besides Chris Sneehaving Loves versatilitywould be a gigantic plus.He has proved to be an effective pass blocker who has gotten very littledouble team help. Beingthat he is the Weakside Tackle very rarely does a TE line up on his side.He has done a fantastic job on when placed on an island against speed rushers and more power guys. Some people have wrote Love projects better at RT or Guard because of technique andfootwork problems. I think that some of these things have been more to do with the moving around and switching sides . Having to lean a new position each year hasnt allowed him to refine himself at 1 spot. I think when he reaches the NFL, Gets with some NFL coaches on top of all his prior experience, I think the skys the limit. I really like Loves upside and believe he is worthy of a first round pick. If he goes in the 2nd like these draft sites are projecting your getting a huge steal U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....
Yeah this the oldest line in the NFL they have to get some more young bodies in there. I would like to come away with Love and Kirkpatrick although I know thats unlikely. Love can come in and replace Andrews at the very least as the blocking TE and 3rd tackle if he is cut.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 01:29 PM
Why do they have to put Florida and PSU on at the same time as Bama and MSU it sux

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 01:32 PM
Another pick for Robert Lester nice zone defense

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 02:07 PM
Holy crap did U guys see the carch Brain Linthicum the Michigan ST TE made. Not many TE's can do that. Someone to watch in 2011 CFB season

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 02:07 PM
Trent Richardson is going to be a better NFL player than Ingram. Probably will be drafted higher too.

Marcell Dareus is just a beast. Courtney Upshaw is an interesting guy, hes a junior I believe, but isnt going to come out this year, hes like 265, but he plays DE, OLB, and ILB. He may be a really nice pickup next year for a 3-4 team that likes versatility. Hes a bit like Brandon Spikes but more athletic.

lawl
01-01-2011, 02:43 PM
* Anyone get to watch Bruce Miller of Central Florida? Hes a undersized DE(6ft 2inch 255lb), with a motor of* a madman... I've seen him twice now, and bet against him twice, and hes killed me twice...lol Hes the type of guy who helps make a team a winner, and i woulden't be surprised to see him in the 3rd rd go...


Every week he goes that hard, with his size I would think he'd have to play 34 olb, no?

UCF really needs to join the big east, true freshman qb Godfrey is undersized but has the speed to play whatever, he's a guy to look at in a few years

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 02:47 PM
Every week he goes that hard, with his size I would think he'd have to play 34 olb, no?


I dont think hes even 255, I think hes more like 245. Id say that makes him likely a 34 olb, but it really depends on wether he has the frame to add another 10-15 pounds, and how physical he plays at the point of attack. Osi is only 255, so hes not drastically undersized.

Hes going to be a late round draft pick, so he may find a role as just a pass rush specialist too, dont need to find 3 down players in the late rounds.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 02:59 PM
Trent Richardson is going to be a better NFL player than Ingram. Probably will be drafted higher too. Marcell Dareus is just a beast. Courtney Upshaw is an interesting guy, hes a junior I believe, but isnt going to come out this year, hes like 265, but he plays DE, OLB, and ILB. He may be a really nice pickup next year for a 3-4 team that likes versatility. Hes a bit like Brandon Spikes but more athletic.I like Richardson better myself. That was an awesome TD run. He just ran right through that guy. </P>


I look at this Alabama team and I really cant understand how they lost 3 games. They really have talent wise one of the better teams. Once again a Big 10 team just getting there teeth kicked in by the SEC</P>

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 03:03 PM
I look at this Alabama team and I really cant understand how they lost 3 games. They* really have talent wise one of the better teams. Once again a Big 10 team just getting there teeth kicked in by the SEC</P>

Health. They were beat up for awhile there.

I wonder if McElroy could have an nfl career similar to Colt McCoy. I still think they may be the same person.

Rumor has it Marquis Maze may declare for the draft. He would be an interesting late round WR. Lots of versatility, kick/punt returns, etc.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 03:09 PM
Cousins is getting drilled every time he drops back . What a read by Upshaw ,dam nice play ,so much speed from a, well whatever he will play. Intercepted by Barron

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 03:10 PM
Courtney Upshaw is just playing out of his mind this game. 5 tackles, 3 for a loss, 2 sacks. lol.

I really think the guy goes as a mid 1st round pick if he declares. Though I dont think he will, hes certainly making an argument.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 03:14 PM
Courtney Upshaw is just playing out of his mind this game. 5 tackles, 3 for a loss, 2 sacks. lol. I really think the guy goes as a mid 1st round pick if he declares. Though I dont think he will, hes certainly making an argument.Yeah that was a great play he just made. There going to knock this QB out of the game

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 03:21 PM
There going to knock this QB out of the game

And there he goes. Hah.

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 03:22 PM
Oh my god they almost broke his back. Can anyone block on the Michigan State line

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 03:22 PM
Oh my god they almost broke his back. Can anyone block on the Michigan State line

Whats the kill count now for Bama? Two WRs, and the Qb? Still have a quarter and a half left.

slipknottin
01-01-2011, 03:30 PM
So btw, Greg Jones is playing in this game, and I don't think anyone has noticed him doing anything. Not good for his draft stock.

britishblue2
01-01-2011, 03:57 PM
Oh my god they almost broke his back. Can anyone block on the Michigan State line

Whats the kill count now for Bama? Two WRs, and the Qb? Still have a quarter and a half left. 42 - zip, Bama are destroying them. Saban doing a great job there.

britishblue2
01-01-2011, 03:58 PM
Michagans coverage is all over the place

thegreatone
01-01-2011, 05:38 PM
Both qb's for wisc and tcu lookin good early

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 08:00 PM
Man this Wisconsin Center is really, really good. What a performance running the football on this drive. They have some serious run blockers on this line. Say what U want about Carimi but he drives guys back when they run the football.</P>

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 08:07 PM
Im leaning towards Demarcus Love as theO-lineman I want.He has manned 4 spots on the Arkansas line before settling in to the weakside tackle role for the Razorbacks. He started games atweakside guardfor a running team with Mcfadden and Jones. Moved to Strongside guard in 08. Moved to Strongside Tackle in 09 and Finally weakside tackle in 2010. With the Giants line in a case of constant flux and no one really having a solid hold ona spot besides Chris Sneehaving Loves versatilitywould be a gigantic plus.He has proved to be an effective pass blocker who has gotten very littledouble team help. Beingthat he is the Weakside Tackle very rarely does a TE line up on his side.He has done a fantastic job on when placed on an island against speed rushers and more power guys. Some people have wrote Love projects better at RT or Guard because of technique andfootwork problems. I think that some of these things have been more to do with the moving around and switching sides . Having to lean a new position each year hasnt allowed him to refine himself at 1 spot. I think when he reaches the NFL, Gets with some NFL coaches on top of all his prior experience, I think the skys the limit. I really like Loves upside and believe he is worthy of a first round pick. If he goes in the 2nd like these draft sites are projecting your getting a huge steal U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....
</P>


Moffit has played center before as well. U could draft him and put him there. I would love to get a physical downhill run blocker at like him at center. I would much rather draft Moffit and play him at Center then draft Stefen Wisniewski</P>

Redeyejedi
01-01-2011, 08:08 PM
Awesome display of O-line talent in this Rose Bowl. Redshirt SophmorePeter Konz the Wisconsin Center is a future first rounder. Wouldnt be surprised if he is at LT next year

thegreatone
01-01-2011, 11:13 PM
Man this Wisconsin Center is really, really good. What a performance running the football on this drive. They have some serious run blockers on this line. Say what U want about Carimi but he drives guys back when they run the football.</p>wisc is the first place i look for lineman:) iowa 2nd

Redeyejedi
01-02-2011, 12:15 PM
Man this Wisconsin Center is really, really good. What a performance running the football on this drive. They have some serious run blockers on this line. Say what U want about Carimi but he drives guys back when they run the football.</P>wisc is the first place i look for lineman:) iowa 2nd
Yeah but if u get a chance to watch this game again focus on number 66. He was blowing guys clear across the field I was very very impressed. Not sure why he isnt talked about he is a red shirt sophomore he is draft eligible

nycsportzfan
01-02-2011, 03:20 PM
Im leaning towards Demarcus Love as theO-lineman I want.He has manned 4 spots on the Arkansas line before settling in to the weakside tackle role for the Razorbacks. He started games atweakside guardfor a running team with Mcfadden and Jones. Moved to Strongside guard in 08. Moved to Strongside Tackle in 09 and Finally weakside tackle in 2010. With the Giants line in a case of constant flux and no one really having a solid hold ona spot besides Chris Sneehaving Loves versatilitywould be a gigantic plus.He has proved to be an effective pass blocker who has gotten very littledouble team help. Beingthat he is the Weakside Tackle very rarely does a TE line up on his side.He has done a fantastic job on when placed on an island against speed rushers and more power guys. Some people have wrote Love projects better at RT or Guard because of technique andfootwork problems. I think that some of these things have been more to do with the moving around and switching sides . Having to lean a new position each year hasnt allowed him to refine himself at 1 spot. I think when he reaches the NFL, Gets with some NFL coaches on top of all his prior experience, I think the skys the limit. I really like Loves upside and believe he is worthy of a first round pick. If he goes in the 2nd like these draft sites are projecting your getting a huge steal U know how i feel about Love.. I freaking LOVE him, no pun intended...lol I've been gassing him and Sherrod as my top 2 guys since before its been the sexy thing to do... They make this OT class worth talking about, as i really feel without those 2, there is alot of questions with the others, like can carimi play LT on the pro level, is costanzo strong enough to hold up in the NFL, is Solder gonna live up to the potential...etc...etc I go Sherrod then Love, with Carimi following...

A power Guard is a intersting thing to consider as well, to line up in seuberts spot and really give us a potent 1-2 guard combo for the Run game, a guy like Jon moffitt and justin boren come to mind....
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Moffit has played center before as well. U could draft him and put him there. I would love to get a physical downhill run blocker at like him at center. I would much rather draft Moffit and play him at Center then draft Stefen Wisniewski</p> Wisnewski had a good Bowl game against FLorida... I was impressed at the lanes opened up for Royster... But Moffitt is the man, he looked good yesterday besides a penalty...

nycsportzfan
01-02-2011, 03:23 PM
My Non 1st or 2nd Rd pick to have a big impact this yr, Mike Williams has broke the record for Recieving Td's in a season for Tampa today!! What a Call!!!!

Neverend
01-02-2011, 11:28 PM
Wish list -</P>


LBs - Casey Matthews, Travis Lewisor Quan Sturdivant.All very instinctual which is what makes them special.Matthews and Quanaren't extremely fast but they play with great technique in coverage as their hips and footwork are very fluid. </P>


S - Deunta Williams and Ahmad Black - Replace Grant if he walks? Like these guys. Read &amp; react skills are essential for a safety and both of these guys have it. I love Rahim moore but he is just way too poor as against the run</P>


CB - Janoris Jenkins, Brandon Harris, and Shareece Wright - Brandon Harris does not have great instincts and has gotten beat badly sometimes but he is a good technician. Jenkins is a great all around corner and i love usc's wright who is a good corner. I also like curtis brown from texas and UNC's kendrick burney</P>


DE - JJ Watt - my favorite lineman in the draft. just absolutely dominant technician. not a great athlete but similar to clay matthews coming out his motor can compensate for that. if he doesnt declare this year definitely a top 5 pick next year</P>


OL - Derek Sherrod, Wisniewski, and Kirkpatrick - love sherrod tho i would like him to be a bit more physical but that is a little overrated. wis is a dominant technician but not the mauling type. love kirkpatrick. </P>


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slipknottin
01-02-2011, 11:39 PM
DE - JJ Watt - my favorite lineman in the draft. just absolutely dominant technician. not a great athlete but similar to clay matthews coming out his motor can compensate for that. if he doesnt declare this year definitely a top 5 pick next year

What? JJ Watt is 6'6 290+ pounds, hes a 5 tech in a 3-4 defense. And Clay Matthews was a great athlete coming out.

lawl
01-02-2011, 11:44 PM
Wasn't one of the UNC corners supposed to be damn good coming into this season? I obviously don't follow college ball as closely as you guys, but was sure that I heard one of their corners was supposed to be a 1st or 2nd round type guy?</P>


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edit- nevermind I guess it's Kendric Burney, tiny guy.</P>

Neverend
01-03-2011, 01:10 AM
DE - JJ Watt - my favorite lineman in the draft. just absolutely dominant technician. not a great athlete but similar to clay matthews coming out his motor can compensate for that. if he doesnt declare this year definitely a top 5 pick next year What? JJ Watt is 6'6 290+ pounds, hes a 5 tech in a 3-4 defense. And Clay Matthews was a great athlete coming out.</P>


and? lol. if u mean watt is a great athlete simply because of his size i guess thats a fair argument. from my observation JJ Watt does not look like an overly great athlete like a suh or allen bailey coming out. not to say he isnt athletic in his own right.I felt thatwas a slight issue derrick morgan had coming out last year too, not a great athlete that most 1st round picks are.Watt IMOwill be aDE in the nfl, doesn't really have the frame or size for a DT.</P>


also couldve sworn the biggest criticism clay matthews had coming out was his lack of athleticism and upside. he did not have the superb athletic abilityofother LBs coming out of that year like cushing and curry. matthews was more of aelite quickness, high motorkind of guy</P>

Neverend
01-03-2011, 01:11 AM
Wasn't one of the UNC corners supposed to be damn good coming into this season? I obviously don't follow college ball as closely as you guys, but was sure that I heard one of their corners was supposed to be a 1st or 2nd round type guy?</P>


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edit- nevermind I guess it's Kendric Burney, tiny guy.</P>


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his teammate charles brown aint half bad either.</P>

lawl
01-03-2011, 01:17 AM
DE - JJ Watt - my favorite lineman in the draft. just absolutely dominant technician. not a great athlete but similar to clay matthews coming out his motor can compensate for that. if he doesnt declare this year definitely a top 5 pick next year What? JJ Watt is 6'6 290+ pounds, hes a 5 tech in a 3-4 defense. And Clay Matthews was a great athlete coming out.</P>


and? lol. if u mean watt is a great athlete simply because of his size i guess thats a fair argument. from my observation JJ Watt does not look like an overly great athlete like a suh or allen bailey coming out. not to say he isnt athletic in his own right.I felt thatwas a slight issue derrick morgan had coming out last year too, not a great athlete that most 1st round picks are.Watt IMOwill be aDE in the nfl, doesn't really have the frame or size for a DT.</P>


also couldve sworn the biggest criticism clay matthews had coming out was his lack of athleticism and upside. he did not have the superb athletic abilityofother LBs coming out of that year like cushing and curry. matthews was more of aelite quickness, high motorkind of guy</P>


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clay ran the fastest out of all those guys</P>

slipknottin
01-03-2011, 01:21 AM
and? lol. if u mean watt is a great athlete simply because of his size i guess thats a fair argument. from my observation JJ Watt does not look like an overly great athlete like a suh or allen bailey coming out. not to say he isnt athletic in his own right.*I felt that*was a slight issue derrick morgan had coming out last year too, not a great athlete that most 1st round picks are.*Watt IMO*will be a*DE in the nfl, doesn't really have the frame or size for a DT.

I thought you were saying that Matthews and Watt were similar players, which they arent at all. Watt will be a DE... a 3-4 DE, 5 tech. He does not have the burst to play 4-3 DE.

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 09:02 AM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 10:05 AM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...

like it. except for the 3rd. not giving up on mitch P just yet :) and isnt house projected as a mid rounder with 4.5 speed?

Raptor22
01-03-2011, 10:09 AM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...


I'll take that draft. I don't know too much about the CB (the joys of working on Saturdays... doing my homework on him now ;) Edit: Post homework; I'll take this kid in a heartbeat. Nice coverage, and a good in run support. Get him some good safeties (like Rolle, KP, Grant...) and he could be a beast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9g1Ff0odmc )

I've got a gut feeling that the LB position will improve tremendously this off season... if Bullock sticks around, I think being another year removed from the knee injury and a full training camp will get him back to form (same for KP). Also, Goff has played better than anyone here suspected he would. I remember saying that the coaches may believe that he's the guy at MLB (which was why they didn't trade the whole draft for McClain, who they would've missed anyway, and didn't go after Dansby), and was mocked... However, he's been a good signal caller, and a force against the run. I like the idea of Lewis-(a healthy) Bullock- Boley for passing downs.

Another TE would be nice, and some more depth/ or upgrades at the OL would be great. I don't see Reese getting another RB, unless an elite one falls into his lap, or they can't keep Bradshaw. Ware is coming along nicely, and could be a definite weapon on 3rd downs.

One thing I'm curious/worried about is Chad Jones. I believe that he'll make his goal of being in training camp in 2012, but I wonder if the Giants will keep him under contract until then. They way this front office works, I think they'll try to make sure Jones, his GF/Fiance, and their child will be taken care of; but I don't know if the league will let The Giants IR him again... It would be great if Grant would stick around until 2012 and Jones comes back 100%. He would be an absolute beast in the 3 safety set.

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 12:10 PM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...

like it. except for the 3rd. not giving up on mitch P just yet :) and isnt house projected as a mid rounder with 4.5 speed?
nah, hes a sub 4.5 guy, most suggest 4.44 type speed, and hes a ballhawk, with 11ints and 3tds in his career to go along with i believe 23pass defended in the last 2seasons alone, and a Forced Fumble.. I've been doing some research on him for awhile now, and most got him RD 2 to RD 3... I'm not sold on Carmichael yet, as hes so hit or miss it seems, and Jalil Brown isn't that speedy type, more of a bigger guys like our guys we all ready got... We need a shifty, quick, cover corner, and House fits that mold... I have no problem going CB in RD 1 if Jenkins is still on the board either.... Boren is a big mauling sluggo type guy, and i think thats the idenity on the inside we need to get back to, and as much as i like petrus, i want a nasty, dirty if u will, player on the inside.. Boren and Moffitt are guys i love for our team... I would consider taking Moffitt in RD 2 and waiting on CB if we really like me, moffitt is awesome!

I could easily flip that mock, its just one mock, which as u know, if i decided to put OT in RD 1 or something, it would change the whole thing...
For example
1. derek Sherrod OT MISS ST- helped turn around Miss st program, with super run blocking
2. Mason Foster SLB Wash- Tackle Machine, more of a traditonal 4/3 SLB...
3. Brandon Boykin CB GA- speedy corner, good nickel back with possible starting potential
4. weslye saunders te s.carolina- talented blocking TE with ever improving hands.top te potential
6. tim barnes c mizzo- good center, who has a chance to go higher...
7. davonte shannon ss buff

Its super tough to predict a mock for us, because theres alot of spots that need help

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 12:15 PM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...


I'll take that draft. I don't know too much about the CB (the joys of working on Saturdays... doing my homework on him now ;) Edit: Post homework; I'll take this kid in a heartbeat. Nice coverage, and a good in run support. Get him some good safeties (like Rolle, KP, Grant...) and he could be a beast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9g1Ff0odmc )

I've got a gut feeling that the LB position will improve tremendously this off season... if Bullock sticks around, I think being another year removed from the knee injury and a full training camp will get him back to form (same for KP). Also, Goff has played better than anyone here suspected he would. I remember saying that the coaches may believe that he's the guy at MLB (which was why they didn't trade the whole draft for McClain, who they would've missed anyway, and didn't go after Dansby), and was mocked... However, he's been a good signal caller, and a force against the run. I like the idea of Lewis-(a healthy) Bullock- Boley for passing downs.

Another TE would be nice, and some more depth/ or upgrades at the OL would be great. I don't see Reese getting another RB, unless an elite one falls into his lap, or they can't keep Bradshaw. Ware is coming along nicely, and could be a definite weapon on 3rd downs.

One thing I'm curious/worried about is Chad Jones. I believe that he'll make his goal of being in training camp in 2012, but I wonder if the Giants will keep him under contract until then. They way this front office works, I think they'll try to make sure Jones, his GF/Fiance, and their child will be taken care of; but I don't know if the league will let The Giants IR him again... It would be great if Grant would stick around until 2012 and Jones comes back 100%. He would be an absolute beast in the 3 safety set.
ya, i hope things work out for chad, it stinks for us as well, because just losing 3rd rd picks is a killer...

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 12:55 PM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...
The only thing is Travis might not come out. From what Ive been reading he is leaning towards staying which kinda sux.</P>


House I cant wait to see in the Senior Bowl. The only thing thats sux is the best WR's are all Juniors but still it will be good to see him play against some top flight competition in the practices as well as the game.</P>


I would rather get a tackle and a G/C but a case could be made that the interior of the line is where the problems lye because it is. Im hoping that with Diehl moving inside for a full year he will get used to it and get back to how he looked there before moving to LT. </P>


I like taller TE's but in this class U cant be picky and Graham is solid for a 6th rounder.</P>


Shannon Idont know much about but the measurables and production is good.<FONT color=#000000> </FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000000>I really believe this offense needs a RB that can run routes and be a legitimate receiver out of the backfield</FONT></P>

Raptor22
01-03-2011, 01:53 PM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...


I'll take that draft. I don't know too much about the CB (the joys of working on Saturdays... doing my homework on him now ;) Edit: Post homework; I'll take this kid in a heartbeat. Nice coverage, and a good in run support. Get him some good safeties (like Rolle, KP, Grant...) and he could be a beast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9g1Ff0odmc )

I've got a gut feeling that the LB position will improve tremendously this off season... if Bullock sticks around, I think being another year removed from the knee injury and a full training camp will get him back to form (same for KP). Also, Goff has played better than anyone here suspected he would. I remember saying that the coaches may believe that he's the guy at MLB (which was why they didn't trade the whole draft for McClain, who they would've missed anyway, and didn't go after Dansby), and was mocked... However, he's been a good signal caller, and a force against the run. I like the idea of Lewis-(a healthy) Bullock- Boley for passing downs.

Another TE would be nice, and some more depth/ or upgrades at the OL would be great. I don't see Reese getting another RB, unless an elite one falls into his lap, or they can't keep Bradshaw. Ware is coming along nicely, and could be a definite weapon on 3rd downs.

One thing I'm curious/worried about is Chad Jones. I believe that he'll make his goal of being in training camp in 2012, but I wonder if the Giants will keep him under contract until then. They way this front office works, I think they'll try to make sure Jones, his GF/Fiance, and their child will be taken care of; but I don't know if the league will let The Giants IR him again... It would be great if Grant would stick around until 2012 and Jones comes back 100%. He would be an absolute beast in the 3 safety set.
ya, i hope things work out for chad, it stinks for us as well, because just losing 3rd rd picks is a killer...


Jones was the one guy I was REALLY psyched to see Reese draft. I couldn't wait to see what he could do concentrating on one sport, and I loved his size, speed, strength (never mind the 9 reps on bench, which, I maintain that a flat bench is a silly, arbitrary, and dangerous way to measure a football player's strength... hence the baseball pitcher basically not doing it, but just look at his hits in college), and his ball skills.

sucks :-(

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 02:09 PM
Mock Draft for final positoning


picking 19th overall...


1. Travis Lewis LB OU- We need playmakers at LB. A guy who can play pass and run....
2. Davon House CB N. Mex St- Speedy CB who makes plays, must get fast on D..
3. Justin Boren OG Ohio St- Mauler for the inside, to join snee in power run blocking...
4. Jake Kirkpatrick C TCU- Mauler for inside, and hopeful future at the positon...
6. Cameron Graham TE Louisville- boss is FA, graham is coming along nicely..
7. Davonte Shannon SS Buff- Ultra productive safety, with much expierence...

like it. except for the 3rd. not giving up on mitch P just yet :) and isnt house projected as a mid rounder with 4.5 speed?
nah, hes a sub 4.5 guy, most suggest 4.44 type speed, and hes a ballhawk, with 11ints and 3tds in his career to go along with i believe 23pass defended in the last 2seasons alone, and a Forced Fumble.. I've been doing some research on him for awhile now, and most got him RD 2 to RD 3... I'm not sold on Carmichael yet, as hes so hit or miss it seems, and Jalil Brown isn't that speedy type, more of a bigger guys like our guys we all ready got... We need a shifty, quick, cover corner, and House fits that mold... I have no problem going CB in RD 1 if Jenkins is still on the board either.... Boren is a big mauling sluggo type guy, and i think thats the idenity on the inside we need to get back to, and as much as i like petrus, i want a nasty, dirty if u will, player on the inside.. Boren and Moffitt are guys i love for our team... I would consider taking Moffitt in RD 2 and waiting on CB if we really like me, moffitt is awesome!

I could easily flip that mock, its just one mock, which as u know, if i decided to put OT in RD 1 or something, it would change the whole thing...
For example
1. derek Sherrod OT MISS ST- helped turn around Miss st program, with super run blocking
2. Mason Foster SLB Wash- Tackle Machine, more of a traditonal 4/3 SLB...
3. Brandon Boykin CB GA- speedy corner, good nickel back with possible starting potential
4. weslye saunders te s.carolina- talented blocking TE with ever improving hands.top te potential
6. tim barnes c mizzo- good center, who has a chance to go higher...
7. davonte shannon ss buff

Its super tough to predict a mock for us, because theres alot of spots that need help
yeah i really like moffit as well but think he will go before us in the 2nd. I really want a beast at lb'r and like you said a shifty speedy CB. cant wait till the juniors are done declaring. gonna be a tough decision when we pick with all the talent that should be available.

Neverend
01-03-2011, 06:03 PM
Davon House is a solid cover corner, good in both zone and press coverage which is rare.</P>


An underrated corner I feel is shareece wright. Great athletic ability and good instincts. Great blitzer too. Reminds me a lot of terrell thomas except of course he's a better athlete. Wright has a lot of upside. Definitely a Jerry reese pick. Wright does have a lot of off field problems which will hurt his draft stock tho</P>

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 09:15 PM
How about that run from Tyrod Taylor, I know Im the only one that likes him on here. I think he wouldnt be a bad idea as a developmental QB. I see some use for him on the roster . To me if your not going to put the guy on the 53 man roster its not worth drafting a QB and I wouldnt mind bringing him in on goaline and short yardage situations.</P>

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 09:29 PM
How about that run from Tyrod Taylor, I know Im the only one that likes him on here. I think he wouldnt be a bad idea as a developmental QB. I see some use for him on the roster . To me if your not going to put the guy on the 53 man roster its not worth drafting a QB and I wouldnt mind bringing him in on goaline and short yardage situations.</p>how about that pass!!

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 09:29 PM
How about that run from Tyrod Taylor, I know Im the only one that likes him on here. I think he wouldnt be a bad idea as a developmental QB. I see some use for him on the roster . To me if your not going to put the guy on the 53 man roster its not worth drafting a QB and I wouldnt mind bringing him in on goaline and short yardage situations.</p>no i like him as well. your not alone

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 09:54 PM
bad play call I would keep it in Taylors hands run the option

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 10:09 PM
This is a good game. Harbaugh seems like a complete dk

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 10:12 PM
This is a good game. Harbaugh seems like a complete dk that hosely is a beast

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 10:14 PM
bad play call I would keep it in Taylors hands run the optionTalkin bout the 4th n 1? Agree

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 10:23 PM
bad play call I would keep it in Taylors hands run the optionTalkin bout the 4th n 1? AgreeI dont see why this would be such a bad idea to have him on the field at times. They used to bring in the Hefty Lefty near the goaline. Giants probably wouldnt do it because if he started to make plays and Eli struggled they would have external pressure to play him

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 10:28 PM
bad play call I would keep it in Taylors hands run the optionTalkin bout the 4th n 1? AgreeI dont see why this would be such a bad idea to have him on the field at times. They used to bring in the Hefty Lefty near the goaline. Giants probably wouldnt do it because if he started to make plays and Eli struggled they would have external pressure to play himidk if his stock doesn't rise too much I could see them takin a shot. Never gonna happen though giants rarely take who I like. I liked him before this game after that td pass I WANT him in blue. Your right about the pressure to play him though

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 10:47 PM
bad play call I would keep it in Taylors hands run the optionTalkin bout the 4th n 1? AgreeI dont see why this would be such a bad idea to have him on the field at times. They used to bring in the Hefty Lefty near the goaline. Giants probably wouldnt do it because if he started to make plays and Eli struggled they would have external pressure to play himidk if his stock doesn't rise too much I could see them takin a shot. Never gonna happen though giants rarely take who I like. I liked him before this game after that td pass I WANT him in blue. Your right about the pressure to play him thoughYeah i would only do it later in the draft im not wanting to get rid of a Top4 round pick. Wow cant believe he missed that extra point

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 10:53 PM
bad play call I would keep it in Taylors hands run the optionTalkin bout the 4th n 1? AgreeI dont see why this would be such a bad idea to have him on the field at times. They used to bring in the Hefty Lefty near the goaline. Giants probably wouldnt do it because if he started to make plays and Eli struggled they would have external pressure to play himidk if his stock doesn't rise too much I could see them takin a shot. Never gonna happen though giants rarely take who I like. I liked him before this game after that td pass I WANT him in blue. Your right about the pressure to play him thoughYeah* i would only do it later in the draft im not wanting to get rid of a Top*4 round pick. Wow cant believe he missed that extra pointeh I might go with him in 4 if he's there. His wr has to go up and make a play. Not a smart pass either way

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 10:56 PM
Wow almost 100 yards in 2 plays and 1 min? Amazing

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 10:56 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:14 PM
I wonder if elway is gonna try and make a play for luck. God that'll be expensive

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 11:18 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:18 PM
Wow nvm didn't know den has the 2nd pick.

wihockey33
01-03-2011, 11:18 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but what about Ingram? Only one fumble in 450 or something touches. I know we need a LB, but with the class we could easily get someone in the 2nd round, and I feel like if you eliminated even half of our running backs fumbles, and some of Eli's unfortunate interceptions, we'd be a 12 win team.

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:19 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:20 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but what about Ingram?* Only one fumble in 450 or something touches.* I know we need a LB, but with the class we could easily get someone in the 2nd round, and I feel like if you eliminated even half of our running backs fumbles, and some of Eli's unfortunate interceptions, we'd be a 12 win team.
Eh wouldn't hate the pick could do a lot worse

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 11:22 PM
Davon House is a solid cover corner, good in both zone and press coverage which is rare.</p>


An underrated corner I feel is shareece wright. Great athletic ability and good instincts. Great blitzer too. Reminds me a lot of terrell thomas except of course he's a better athlete. Wright has a lot of upside. Definitely a Jerry reese pick. Wright does have a lot of off field problems which will hurt his draft stock tho</p> wrights good, but like Kevin Thomas, hes to injury prone... Hes got a smallish body, which makes u wonder if hes got one of those frail skinny bodies... But ya, hes decent enough..


A underrated safety i continuely talk about and think by draft time or during, people will find out when he goes alot earlier then some think, is Johnny Patrick of Louisville.. That dudes got more then enough speed, good size, good man to man cover corner, ball hawk type skills, good in run support....etc Need i say more? I love Johnny Patrick! He totally reminds me of another former Louisville CB who had a heck of a career, sam madison... All though Patrick has em in WT by a little... Eerily similar players..

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 11:24 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:28 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
luck is gonna be a bronco. He might be the best college qb I've ever seen. And he can run! Hell I like Taylor over newton and what's his name from Ohio.

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:31 PM
Really impressed with stanfords D

Redeyejedi
01-03-2011, 11:35 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
He might not declare as insane as that sounds

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:37 PM
Fleener kid is tearing it up!

thegreatone
01-03-2011, 11:39 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
He might not declare as insane as that soundswould be ver dumb to stay. Will be the last year a no1 pick will get insane money

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 11:48 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
luck is gonna be a bronco. He might be the best college qb I've ever seen. And he can run! Hell I like Taylor over newton and what's his name from Ohio. I here ya on Luck! But no way is Pryor or Taylor a better prospect then Cam Newton! Newton's arm alone destroys the other 2, and hes faster then Pryor with better accuracy... I've been saying this all yr, but CAM is a stud! Sure, his Offense is tacky, but he shows all the signs of being a stud, with Rocket, Accurate arm, blazing speed, elusiveness, and Ht and size to fight off sacks and see over the defense... Hes insane! My top 5 QB's in order...

1. Andrew Luck stan- I'd put him 1st and 2nd thats how much i'm sold on him...lol

2. Cam Newton aub- Kids got every tool, and he wins games, better stuff then tebow has, and tebow has shown some signs here toward end of yr after working in tacky offense...

3. R. Mallett ark- i really like mallett, reminds me of Matt Shaub...

4. Colin Kapernick nev- surprise pick here, but this kids got arm strength, HT and size, speed, and he wins games! He could be a draft steal!!!

5. Pat Devlin Del- i seen a playoff game he was in, and i see why Penn St wanted him, good arm, accurate, and good poise.. I expect early 2nd rd pick for him, maybe vikings..

nycsportzfan
01-03-2011, 11:49 PM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
He might not declare as insane as that sounds the dumbest thing ever, even more dumb for a supposed smart kid from stanford..lol Kid can ball!! He'll jinx himself, if he don't declare.. He is a number 1 pick, and can graduate whenever.. Not to mention, Harbaughs as good as gone, so that would probably put his decison over the top

BlueSanta
01-04-2011, 12:35 AM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
He might not declare as insane as that sounds the dumbest thing ever, even more dumb for a supposed smart kid from stanford..lol Kid can ball!! He'll jinx himself, if he don't declare.. He is a number 1 pick, and can graduate whenever.. Not to mention, Harbaughs as good as gone, so that would probably put his decison over the top


He will likely come out. But, there is also a looming NFL lockout. Some players who would normally not think twice about coming out may hesitate now.

That said, I think he is coming out...

nycsportzfan
01-04-2011, 02:27 AM
Any one have any good coaching canadites for the Michigan Job outside of Jim Harbaugh? Just curious... I was thinking of Gary Pinkel of Mizzo.. I liked him for the open FLA and Miami jobs, and i'll keep on that now. MIzzo is a power yr in and yr out since hes gotten there.. I remember the days when Mizzo was a bottom feeder and would get drilled yr in and yr out, and he desrves most to all of that credit, and getting guys like Aldon Smith, Blaine Gabbert, Sean Weatherspoon, Tim Barnes, Danario Alexander, Chase Daniel, Ziggy Hood, mike egnew, Chase Coffman, Jeremey maclin, willaim moore...etc..etc I mean, look at what he took over from coach larry smith and what hes turned this program into.. Gary Pinkel does not get nearly the respect and job offers from other programs that he should.. Teams like Michigan and the U should be lining up for his services... Lets see, Al Golden or Gary Pinkel.. Hmmmm???lol

Also, a guy i really like as a Head coach as a diamond in the rough, but certainly not big enough name, is Charlie Strong of Louisville.. Kudos to him, turning around Lousiville to the degree he has in one yr, all though with mostly someone else's plyaers.. He got those players to play pretty well for him, which is a good indicator of being able to coach, as Louisville was just bad last yr!
And one more not big enough name would be Doug marrone of Syracuse.. I like players who turn around Awful programs Quickly, and hes done that, as there clearly relevent, and Marrone has both NFL and Colliegete Expierence... But first and foremost, if i can't get Harbaugh, i'm going after Gary Pinkel, and then i'll talk to charlie strong and Doug Marrone after that.. Those are my 3interviews right there to go along with Jim Harbaugh..

lawl
01-04-2011, 05:23 AM
Charlie strong has deep ties in Miami and the rest of florida from his days at uf. He can definitely bring in athletes to whatever program he goes to

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 07:05 AM
Any one have any good coaching canadites for the Michigan Job outside of Jim Harbaugh? Just curious... I was thinking of Gary Pinkel of Mizzo.. I liked him for the open FLA and Miami jobs, and i'll keep on that now. MIzzo is a power yr in and yr out since hes gotten there.. I remember the days when Mizzo was a bottom feeder and would get drilled yr in and yr out, and he desrves most to all of that credit, and getting guys like Aldon Smith, Blaine Gabbert, Sean Weatherspoon, Tim Barnes, Danario Alexander, Chase Daniel, Ziggy Hood, mike egnew, Chase Coffman, Jeremey maclin, willaim moore...etc..etc I mean, look at what he took over from coach larry smith and what hes turned this program into.. Gary Pinkel does not get nearly the respect and job offers from other programs that he should.. Teams like Michigan and the U should be lining up for his services... Lets see, Al Golden or Gary Pinkel.. Hmmmm???lol

Also, a guy i really like as a Head coach as a diamond in the rough, but certainly not big enough name, is Charlie Strong of Louisville.. Kudos to him, turning around Lousiville to the degree he has in one yr, all though with mostly someone else's plyaers.. He got those players to play pretty well for him, which is a good indicator of being able to coach, as Louisville was just bad last yr!
And one more not big enough name would be Doug marrone of Syracuse.. I like players who turn around Awful programs Quickly, and hes done that, as there clearly relevent, and Marrone has both NFL and Colliegete Expierence... But first and foremost, if i can't get Harbaugh, i'm going after Gary Pinkel, and then i'll talk to charlie strong and Doug Marrone after that.. Those are my 3interviews right there to go along with Jim Harbaugh..
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Yeah Kevin Gilbride he would be awesome there, They should hire him</P>

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 08:53 AM
This Owen Marecic is a really good FB. I dont se him as much of a LB but he would probably be good on special teams Hes just a type of player u want on your football team.. I love em!


How about Andrew Luck? HOLY SNOT BUBBLES!!! This guy is litteraly, amazing! These throws are outrageously good! Both pass's on the latest TD drive to fleeter to give STAN 36pts were downright amazing! THe one on 3rd down with future pro, steven friday right on his heels and hes running outside, kinda fading backwards, and he throws a perfect on the move throw floated directly to the WR in stride! WOW! Hes something!
he is amazing I'm beggining to think Luck is the perfect draft prospect at QB.. It took me awhile, and i actually like Mallett better at one point, locker better, and newton, but i am a idiot!!!Lol This dude Luck, hands down, is the best QB in the country, and easily the NUM 1 draft pick, and u better start looking for trade partners CAR, because Claussen is not Andrew Luck! And i love claussen!
luck is gonna be a bronco. He might be the best college qb I've ever seen. And he can run! Hell I like Taylor over newton and what's his name from Ohio. I here ya on Luck! But no way is Pryor or Taylor a better prospect then Cam Newton! Newton's arm alone destroys the other 2, and hes faster then Pryor with better accuracy... I've been saying this all yr, but CAM is a stud! Sure, his Offense is tacky, but he shows all the signs of being a stud, with Rocket, Accurate arm, blazing speed, elusiveness, and Ht and size to fight off sacks and see over the defense... Hes insane! My top 5 QB's in order...

1. Andrew Luck stan- I'd put him 1st and 2nd thats how much i'm sold on him...lol


2. Cam Newton aub- Kids got every tool, and he wins games, better stuff then tebow has, and tebow has shown some signs here toward end of yr after working in tacky offense...

3. R. Mallett ark- i really like mallett, reminds me of Matt Shaub...

4. Colin Kapernick nev- surprise pick here, but this kids got arm strength, HT and size, speed, and he wins games! He could be a draft steal!!!

5. Pat Devlin Del- i seen a playoff game he was in, and i see why Penn St wanted him, good arm, accurate, and good poise.. I expect early 2nd rd pick for him, maybe vikings..
i think TT has a higher ceiling than both of them. I also think he will worker harder than both of them as well. not saying either one WONT be a qb i just like TT more, personally. Did you see that TD he threw on the sideline in the first half? it was sick! i like kapernick as well, major project though,udfa . Devlin intrigues me but not sold on him yet. will be keeping a close eye on hime through the process.mallet, what can you say, back to back 30 td seasons., kid can do it all.

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 10:18 AM
Sportsfan how about the year Carlos Dunlap had. It makes me wonder what he was doing at Florida. I thought after the 2008 season he was going to be the number 1 pick. He had an awesome combo of size and speed. Had this guy just decided to show up for the Gators he would of been a Top 10 lock. What a steal the Bengals got. Maybe the Best DE in the class in the 2nd round.</P>


How about 9.5 Sacks in 12 games. 8.5 in the last 6 Everytime someone wants to make an argument against taking guys with incredible physical talent they bring up Vernon Ghoulston but forget guys like this.In my Mock I had the Bucs taking him Imagine if they had.</P>

Neverend
01-04-2011, 02:45 PM
Sportsfan how about the year Carlos Dunlap had. It makes me wonder what he was doing at Florida. I thought after the 2008 season he was going to be the number 1 pick. He had an awesome combo of size and speed. Had this guy just decided to show up for the Gators he would of been a Top 10 lock. What a steal the Bengals got. Maybe the Best DE in the class in the 2nd round.</P>


How about 9.5 Sacks in 12 games. 8.5 in the last 6 Everytime someone wants to make an argument against taking guys with incredible physical talent they bring up Vernon Ghoulston but forget guys like this.In my Mock I had the Bucs taking him Imagine if they had.</P>


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Yeap, was the best rookie DE. Definitely didn't anticipate him doing so well. I thought he was an inconsistent, poor motor guy with a lot of character issues. I knew he was talented but was going to be one of those guys who couldnt make it into the league because of his immaturity. Played really well as a situtional pass rusher</P>


Rashad Carmichael played pretty decent yesterday. One thing I like about him is that the kid is pretty damn fast. I think he has 3rd/4th round value. Not someone I wouldn't mind the giants drafting. He does look a little frail though but some of these kids are still growing into their bodies</P>

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 10:10 PM
Man OSU is playing great tonight. Im a huge fan of 2 later round guys from OSU, Devon Torrence CB and Jeremile Hines S. Both high upside players. This OSU team is very talented

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 10:12 PM
Holy crap Love threw that 260 pound guy to the ground like he was a rag doll

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 10:17 PM
Wow mallet getting no help from his receivers

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 10:18 PM
Wow mallet getting no help from his receiversnot sure what was going on there. Who was that pass 2

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 10:20 PM
Wow mallet getting no help from his receiversnot sure what was going on there. Who was that pass 2I'd like to think it was to the guy who dropped it but your guess is as good as mine

ny06
01-04-2011, 10:22 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol</P>

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 10:31 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol*</P>he's pretty good. Not as good as Ingram IMO will most likely be the 2nd rb off the board depending on who declares

ny06
01-04-2011, 10:32 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol</P>


he's pretty good. Not as good as Ingram IMO will most likely be the 2nd rb off the board depending on who declares</P>


So your opinion Ingram is the best running back in the country?</P>

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 10:48 PM
Demarcus Love is Mauling everyone he is up against. Ive seen an Ohio State player on the ground at least a dozen times tonight because of him

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 10:50 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol*</P>


he's pretty good. Not as good as Ingram IMO will most likely be the 2nd rb off the board depending on who declares</P>


So your opinion Ingram is the best running back in the country?</P>no lemicheal James is

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 10:51 PM
Demarcus Love is Mauling everyone he is up against. Ive seen an Ohio State player on the ground at least a dozen times tonight because of himThis game sure isn't hurting his stock

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 10:59 PM
Why didn't he run for it?

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 11:01 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol</P>


</P>


I really like Murray I think he is exactly the kind of RB the Giants need but unless they get rid of Bradshaw or Jacobs he wont be drafted by the Giants. He is a perfect back for a 2 RB system and would make an awesome 3rd down back. He would give the Giants a RB that could motion out into the slot and catch the football , catch a screen pass, a dimension this team has lacked since Ward left. He is the best receiving RB in this draft .I think if people werent worried about his durability he would probably be a first round pick because he has that kind of talent. I think he was over used this year by the Sooners I think he is better in a 200-225 carry role and maybe catch 40-50 balls</P>

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 11:20 PM
This guy Knile Davis is one hell of a all aroundRB. Doesnt catch the ball a lot but theres potiental there for sure. 6.0 YPC on the season dam</P>

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 11:24 PM
Justin Boren caught that lol I wonder if that was his first catch at Ohio state

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 11:39 PM
Ohhh Loves footwork was bad there he tripped over himself and gave Heyward a free run at Mallet. To bad he was having a great game up till then. Love does have some technique problems but with how they use there lineman to me its almost understandable. I think when he gets to the NFL and gets to stay put in a spot it will improve

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 11:39 PM
Love got owned on that sack

BlueSanta
01-04-2011, 11:42 PM
Need some opinions. </p>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </p>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</p>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </p>


Guy is ****ing Great lol</p>


</p>


I really like Murray I think he is exactly the kind of RB the Giants need but unless they get rid of Bradshaw or Jacobs he wont be drafted by the Giants. He is a perfect back for a 2 RB system and would make an awesome 3rd down back. He would give the Giants a RB that could motion out into the slot and catch the football , catch a screen pass, a dimension this team has lacked since Ward left. He is the best receiving RB in this draft .I think if people werent worried about his durability he would probably be a first round pick because he has that kind of talent. I think he was over used this year by the Sooners I think he is better in a 200-225 carry role and maybe catch 40-50 balls</p>

I agree with your assessment of Murray as a better versatility back than a feature back.

But, isnt that exactly what we need? Thats why I like him for us. Aside from perhaps Lamichael James, Murrey is the best recieving back in College right now. Last year, it was known how much the Giants likes Spiller in the draft and I think Murray is a similar type back in that he brings similar versatility.

Everyone likes to point out that Eli hasnt been the same since Plax left, but really Eli hasnt been the same since we lost a viable recieving threat in the backfield. Having a guy in the backfield that linebackers cannot cover consistently opens the door for TEs and the running game. Making defenses choose who they want their best cover guys on is the key. If they put more cover guys in to compensate for the versatility of a back, then it opens the door for the power running game.

Lastly, I would argue that above all Reese has always valued production. And Murray is the most productive offensive player in Oklahoma's storied history.

If they feel the tire treads arent worn from his work in college, I see him as a very good fit here in NY.

oh ya, 1 more thing that makes him a good fit here. In ALL his college touches(almost 1000), both rushing and recieving, he has ZERO fumbles.

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 11:43 PM
Love got owned on that sackHis footwork was bad , he got tripped up.</P>


Dont see how thats a safety. The forward progress should of had him at the 2</P>

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 11:44 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol*</P>


</P>


I really like Murray I think he is exactly the kind of RB the Giants need but unless they get rid of Bradshaw or Jacobs he wont be drafted by the Giants. He is a perfect back for a 2 RB system and would make an awesome 3rd down back. He would give the Giants a RB that could motion out into the slot and catch the football , catch a screen pass, a dimension this team has lacked since Ward left. He is* the best receiving RB in this draft .I think if people werent worried about his durability he would probably be a first round pick because he has that kind of talent. I think he was over used this year by the Sooners I think he is better in a 200-225 carry role and maybe catch 40-50 balls</P>if that's what ur lookin for I'd rather have devine

thegreatone
01-04-2011, 11:45 PM
Love got owned on that sackHis footwork was bad , he got tripped up.</P>


Dont see how thats a safety. The forward progress should of had him at the 2</P>Yeah that was a weird play

Redeyejedi
01-04-2011, 11:50 PM
Need some opinions. </P>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </P>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</P>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </P>


Guy is ****ing Great lol</P>


</P>


I really like Murray I think he is exactly the kind of RB the Giants need but unless they get rid of Bradshaw or Jacobs he wont be drafted by the Giants. He is a perfect back for a 2 RB system and would make an awesome 3rd down back. He would give the Giants a RB that could motion out into the slot and catch the football , catch a screen pass, a dimension this team has lacked since Ward left. He is the best receiving RB in this draft .I think if people werent worried about his durability he would probably be a first round pick because he has that kind of talent. I think he was over used this year by the Sooners I think he is better in a 200-225 carry role and maybe catch 40-50 balls</P>




I agree with your assessment of Murray as a better versatility back than a feature back.

But, isnt that exactly what we need? Thats why I like him for us. Aside from perhaps Lamichael James, Murrey is the best recieving back in College right now. Last year, it was known how much the Giants likes Spiller in the draft and I think Murray is a similar type back in that he brings similar versatility.

Everyone likes to point out that Eli hasnt been the same since Plax left, but really Eli hasnt been the same since we lost a viable recieving threat in the backfield. Having a guy in the backfield that linebackers cannot cover consistently opens the door for TEs and the running game. Making defenses choose who they want their best cover guys on is the key. If they put more cover guys in to compensate for the versatility of a back, then it opens the door for the power running game.

Lastly, I would argue that above all Reese has always valued production. And Murray is the most productive offensive player in Oklahoma's storied history.

If they feel the tire treads arent worn from his work in college, I see him as a very good fit here in NY.


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I agree I like him a lot and anyone that remembers my posts from the 2010 draft he was a guy I spoke of very often. The Giants tried to draft a receiving RB with Brown in 09but he got hurt. I thought they may try again in the 10 draft but I think they wanted to give Brown another shot. I personally believe the Giants will come away with a 3rd down back. Im just not sure in what round they will draft one.</P>

BlueSanta
01-04-2011, 11:56 PM
Need some opinions. </p>


You guy's seem to know your stuff about college. </p>


To save me sometime looking it up, tell me about this player Demarco Murray.</p>


I responded to another thread and a poster put a link of some of his highlights. </p>


Guy is ****ing Great lol</p>


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I really like Murray I think he is exactly the kind of RB the Giants need but unless they get rid of Bradshaw or Jacobs he wont be drafted by the Giants. He is a perfect back for a 2 RB system and would make an awesome 3rd down back. He would give the Giants a RB that could motion out into the slot and catch the football , catch a screen pass, a dimension this team has lacked since Ward left. He is the best receiving RB in this draft .I think if people werent worried about his durability he would probably be a first round pick because he has that kind of talent. I think he was over used this year by the Sooners I think he is better in a 200-225 carry role and maybe catch 40-50 balls</p>




I agree with your assessment of Murray as a better versatility back than a feature back.

But, isnt that exactly what we need? Thats why I like him for us. Aside from perhaps Lamichael James, Murrey is the best recieving back in College right now. Last year, it was known how much the Giants likes Spiller in the draft and I think Murray is a similar type back in that he brings similar versatility.

Everyone likes to point out that Eli hasnt been the same since Plax left, but really Eli hasnt been the same since we lost a viable recieving threat in the backfield. Having a guy in the backfield that linebackers cannot cover consistently opens the door for TEs and the running game. Making defenses choose who they want their best cover guys on is the key. If they put more cover guys in to compensate for the versatility of a back, then it opens the door for the power running game.

Lastly, I would argue that above all Reese has always valued production. And Murray is the most productive offensive player in Oklahoma's storied history.

If they feel the tire treads arent worn from his work in college, I see him as a very good fit here in NY.


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I agree I like him a lot and anyone that remembers my posts from the 2010 draft he was a guy I spoke of very often. The Giants tried to draft a receiving RB with Brown in 09but he got hurt. I thought they may try again in the 10 draft but I think they wanted to give Brown another shot. I personally believe the Giants will come away with a 3rd down back. Im just not sure in what round they will draft one.</p>

Yep, the the thing I think makes him a perfect fit for us more than anything is in all those touches, almost 1000 if you count both receptions and rushes, he has not 1 single fumble....... truly amazing. 63 Tds and zero fumbles........his greatest accomplishment imho.

thegreatone
01-05-2011, 12:04 AM
Omg these ark wrs suuuuck! Tell ya what I want this ark punter!

thegreatone
01-05-2011, 12:16 AM
Wooooow!

thegreatone
01-05-2011, 12:18 AM
Damn Ryan. Freakin osu in his face ALL day

thegreatone
01-05-2011, 12:20 AM
That's crazy the ark player shoulda pick up that blocked punt. Nobody around him

hevans24
01-05-2011, 11:15 AM
Give me your opinion on these guys who I like as prospects but I've only seen play on rare occasions:

Tank Carder- OLB TCU
only really watched him in the Rose Bowl, was definitely impressed though, big talent at a big need for the Giants

Jacquizz Rogers- RB Oregon St
watched him in the Civil War, reminded me a bit of Bradshaw with his tough running yet small stature. He seemed to have great agility and relative power, but a little less breakaway speed than one would like. Like I said I only watched him a couple of times so I could be wrong but...sleeper?

Gabe Carimi- OT Wisc
Gotta love that Wisconsin line, Carimi is an all-american senior who looked pretty solid during the Rose Bowl.

I play high-school football, so my Saturdays were too busy to watch as much college as I would of liked b/c I had a game of my own to play. Anyway, these are three prospects that really intrigue me and I was wondering what you guys think the potential draft status of each is. Sleeper? Bust? Future Giant?

Sorry if these guys have been discussed already, I didn't want to read through all 60 pages to check...

Redeyejedi
01-05-2011, 12:34 PM
Give me your opinion on these guys who I like as prospects but I've only seen play on rare occasions: Tank Carder- OLB TCU only really watched him in the Rose Bowl, was definitely impressed though, big talent at a big need for the Giants Jacquizz Rogers- RB Oregon St watched him in the Civil War, reminded me a bit of Bradshaw with his tough running yet small stature. He seemed to have great agility and relative power, but a little less breakaway speed than one would like. Like I said I only watched him a couple of times so I could be wrong but...sleeper? Gabe Carimi- OT Wisc Gotta love that Wisconsin line, Carimi is an all-american senior who looked pretty solid during the Rose Bowl. I play high-school football, so my Saturdays were too busy to watch as much college as I would of liked b/c I had a game of my own to play. Anyway, these are three prospects that really intrigue me and I was wondering what you guys think the potential draft status of each is. Sleeper? Bust? Future Giant? Sorry if these guys have been discussed already, I didn't want to read through all 60 pages to check...I thought Jacquiz Rodgers was staying in school.He is a pretty good player. He is very agile. Has excellent visioncuts back and finds a place to run. He is a very solid receiver. U can motion him out wide or set him out of the slot and he will make a play. I dont see him as powerful as some do. Most of his successful inside runs are more from him slashing around trying to get outside. Much more of a outside the tackle runner. Not that he cant be successful trying to pick up a 3rd and 1. His size makes it so he is hard to pick up behind the line and he can wiggle his way through. I dont just dontsee him as a guy U can pound in between the tackles 20 times a game.Could be a primary back ona pass heavy team butto me is more of asplit carry type guy.I think pairing him with a hard nose in between the tackles runner U would have a devasting combo. Oregon State uses a lot of long developing run plays to try to get him on the outside of the tackles and thats where he is most suited. </P>


Tank Carder is getting a lot of hype after the Rose Bowl.Some people only watch one game a year and if this was the only one I saw i would probably think he was a pro bowler 2.That wasby far thebest game Ive ever seen him play .My opinion he should stay in school. I dont have a top 2 round grade on him myself . I dont think he is as good as a prospect as Daryl Washington was last year. However there is no clear cut bestILB and with Travis Lewis returning , Martiz Wilson and Manti Teo , being draft eligible next year maybe striking while the Iron is hot is not such a bad idea. Ive always thought Carder was a solid player "Mid round prospect type" and depending on where he would be drafted by the Giants I wouldnt dislike the pick</P>

slipknottin
01-05-2011, 01:42 PM
Demarcus Love is Mauling everyone he is up against.

Hes mauling the little guys. Clayborn was giving him a lot of trouble.

That he is having issues pass blocking a 5 tech... not a good sign at all.

Redeyejedi
01-05-2011, 01:59 PM
Demarcus Love is Mauling everyone he is up against. Hes mauling the little guys. Clayborn was giving him a lot of trouble. That he is having issues pass blocking a 5 tech... not a good sign at all.None of these OT's really do it for me completly.Derrick Sherrod is my favorite of them all but I dont think the Giants will get the oppurtunity to pick him.I do have Questions if Love can be a LT. If the Giants are going for strictly a guy for that spot well then he probably isnt the best candidate. I think he projects well at RT or LG and maybe LT. I think his flexibility is the best part of him. Technique wise he is shaky but he hasquickness for his bulk and he hasnt really got to settle into to just one spot to perfect everything. I admit with him your taking a bit of a leap of faith if you want a LT. If your cool with landing a starting lineman thoughI think he is a very good pick. To me all of these guys arent really perfect I see a bunch of guys that look like good RT's but not a lot that look like Left ones.</P>


Did U by any chance catch the TCU - Wisconsin game and if so what did U think of Wisconsin center Peter Konz I thought he looked really good. He may take over at LT next season.</P>

nycsportzfan
01-05-2011, 04:49 PM
That's crazy the ark player shoulda pick up that blocked punt. Nobody around him i coulden't believe it.. I bet on ARK last night, and they were getting 3 and god did they blow some chances to at least cover, let alone win... Some horrible dropped pass's inculding the one on the drive before the blocked punt, on 3rd down that gets them in FG range at least.. But my god, on that block punt, u gotta try and pick it up, because even if Oh St did jump on it(there was no oh st player within 10yrd), it still would've been ARK ball.. Then u got the fumble recovered TD for DANE for a TD, that was crazy, seeing ARK not get.... So many opp's blown by ARK, they lost that game, more then Oh St won it..

thegreatone
01-05-2011, 05:54 PM
That's crazy the ark player shoulda pick up that blocked punt. Nobody around him i coulden't believe it.. I bet on ARK last night, and they were getting 3 and god did they blow some chances to at least cover, let alone win... Some horrible dropped pass's inculding the one on the drive before the blocked punt, on 3rd down that gets them in FG range at least.. But my god, on that block punt, u gotta try and pick it up, because even if Oh St did jump on it(there was no oh st player within 10yrd), it still would've been ARK ball.. Then u got the fumble recovered TD for DANE for a TD, that was crazy, seeing ARK not get.... So many opp's blown by ARK, they lost that game, more then Oh St won it..
yeah waaay to many missed opportunities. feel really bad for ryan cause he played a GREAT game. He had a guy in his face all night and was still playing well. this could be a very good QB class if these jrs start declaring.

nycsportzfan
01-06-2011, 02:44 AM
That's crazy the ark player shoulda pick up that blocked punt. Nobody around him i coulden't believe it.. I bet on ARK last night, and they were getting 3 and god did they blow some chances to at least cover, let alone win... Some horrible dropped pass's inculding the one on the drive before the blocked punt, on 3rd down that gets them in FG range at least.. But my god, on that block punt, u gotta try and pick it up, because even if Oh St did jump on it(there was no oh st player within 10yrd), it still would've been ARK ball.. Then u got the fumble recovered TD for DANE for a TD, that was crazy, seeing ARK not get.... So many opp's blown by ARK, they lost that game, more then Oh St won it..
yeah waaay to many missed opportunities. feel really bad for ryan cause he played a GREAT game. He had a guy in his face all night and was still playing well. this could be a very good QB class if these jrs start declaring.
the only thing about mallett i don't like is how incredible stiff he is.. I realize he isn't mobile, but with that little added hitch to his release, hes gotta be at least a tad speedier in escaping or stepping around pressure, hes Drew Bledsoe type not mobile..lol When given time, hes insane though, those back shoulder throws, were crazy he was making, i freaking hate that little hitch in his delivery though..

thegreatone
01-06-2011, 08:36 AM
That's crazy the ark player shoulda pick up that blocked punt. Nobody around him i coulden't believe it.. I bet on ARK last night, and they were getting 3 and god did they blow some chances to at least cover, let alone win... Some horrible dropped pass's inculding the one on the drive before the blocked punt, on 3rd down that gets them in FG range at least.. But my god, on that block punt, u gotta try and pick it up, because even if Oh St did jump on it(there was no oh st player within 10yrd), it still would've been ARK ball.. Then u got the fumble recovered TD for DANE for a TD, that was crazy, seeing ARK not get.... So many opp's blown by ARK, they lost that game, more then Oh St won it..
yeah waaay to many missed opportunities. feel really bad for ryan cause he played a GREAT game. He had a guy in his face all night and was still playing well. this could be a very good QB class if these jrs start declaring.
the only thing about mallett i don't like is how incredible stiff he is.. I realize he isn't mobile, but with that little added hitch to his release, hes gotta be at least a tad speedier in escaping or stepping around pressure, hes Drew Bledsoe type not mobile..lol When given time, hes insane though, those back shoulder throws, were crazy he was making, i freaking hate that little hitch in his delivery though..
yeah he is a little drew-ish but he slid well in the pocket, giving him that little extra time to throw, and thats all you can ask for.

wtf? you cant type i s h??

Neverend
01-06-2011, 12:37 PM
Mallet has a terrific arm but everything else about him is very, very flawed.This guy is going to need some serious refinement in his technique in the NFL, the scouts are going to rip him like they did tebow</P>

nycsportzfan
01-06-2011, 01:31 PM
Mallet has a terrific arm but everything else about him is very, very flawed.This guy is going to need some serious refinement in his technique in the NFL, the scouts are going to rip him like they did tebow</p> i tend to agree.. All though, i freaking loved Mallett before the game against Oh St, it really showed me what his flaws are, being that he faced a attacking defense, that continued to get pressure all game...

thegreatone
01-06-2011, 01:54 PM
Mallet has a terrific arm but everything else about him is very, very flawed.This guy is going to need some serious refinement in his technique in the NFL, the scouts are going to rip him like they did tebow</p> i tend to agree.. All though, i freaking loved Mallett before the game against Oh St, it really showed me what his flaws are, being that he faced a attacking defense, that continued to get pressure all game...
idk i think the oh st game made me like him even more. the way he handle the pressure and still delivered said a lot to me. Sure he needs some work, but what college QB doesnt? (besides luck, he is amazing;P)

lawl
01-06-2011, 01:57 PM
A few people mind summing up the relative strengths of each roundof each position?</P>


For example(and this isnt right just random numbers):</P>


LBers: Weak high end talent but alot of depth and strong in 2nd and 3rd rounds.</P>


DE: Strong first 2 rounds then tails off dramatically.</P>


Like I said I just made those two up, any opinions as to something based on reality?</P>

slipknottin
01-06-2011, 02:04 PM
A few people mind summing up the relative strengths of each round*of each position?

Ask again on the 18th.

That way we will know what underclassmen have declared.

lawl
01-06-2011, 02:05 PM
A few people mind summing up the relative strengths of each roundof each position? Ask again on the 18th. That way we will know what underclassmen have declared.


Sure thing.</P>

Neverend
01-06-2011, 02:44 PM
Disappointing travis lewis didnt declare. would love for the giants to get him next year, will be a playmaker in the NFL. just a guy who has a nose for the football</P>


old news but janoris jenkins played through a very bad shoulder all year and had surgery. doubt it'll affect his draft stock but maybe that's why he struggles a bit against floaters (which college QBs do a lot) where the receiver gets the ball at its highest point, shoulder has to be limiting him in those jump ball situations. probably no chance he slips to 20 tho</P>

TheEnigma
01-06-2011, 03:46 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. They have so many holes to patch up and not having a 2nd round pick at the moment hurts also.

thegreatone
01-06-2011, 03:57 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. They have so many holes to patch up and not having a 2nd round pick at the moment hurts also.i think they might have done that even if luck was in the draft. i maintain that if luck came out elway woulda traded for the no1 pick and luck would be a bronco.

TheEnigma
01-06-2011, 04:17 PM
Hmm well lets look at the potential players to be the #1 pick now...

Peterson, A.J. Green, Dareus, and Bowers (there's others but they come off the top of my head).

So if anyone was to trade for that #1 pick, I'd guess it to be someone close to having all the pieces and just needing one more position.

thegreatone
01-06-2011, 04:21 PM
Hmm well lets look at the potential players to be the #1 pick now...

Peterson, A.J. Green, Dareus, and Bowers (there's others but they come off the top of my head).

So if anyone was to trade for that #1 pick, I'd guess it to be someone close to having all the pieces and just needing one more position.not many teams who are close to having all the pieces can afford to trade up to no1. dallas maybe, Ne has a butload of early picks but they always trade down not up. I think itll be green to car.clausen isnt horrible but their receivers are, except SS and he is old and injury prone.

slipknottin
01-06-2011, 04:25 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. .

Without Luck, why would any team want to trade up?

Really the first overall pick has to be DL. No OTs worth it, CBs dont go that high.

Has to be either Dareus or Bowers. AJ Green is possible too, but needs to have a lights out combine.

TheEnigma
01-06-2011, 04:45 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. .

Without Luck, why would any team want to trade up?

Really the first overall pick has to be DL. No OTs worth it, CBs dont go that high.

Has to be either Dareus or Bowers. AJ Green is possible too, but needs to have a lights out combine.

I don't think someone trading up for the 1st is smart but then again, not every GM makes wise decisions in regards to drafts. Remember last year, the Jaguars took someone that was expected to be a mid 2nd to early 3rd round pick (Tyson Alaulu). So I wouldn't be too surprised if someone thinks grabbing the 1st pick is smart.

slipknottin
01-06-2011, 05:21 PM
the Jaguars took someone that was expected to be a mid 2nd to early 3rd round pick (Tyson Alaulu).

Alualu was expected to be a late 1st early 2nd rounder.

Redeyejedi
01-06-2011, 05:27 PM
the Jaguars took someone that was expected to be a mid 2nd to early 3rd round pick (Tyson Alaulu). Alualu was expected to be a late 1st early 2nd rounder.If I recall people thought he would begone by pick 40

Redeyejedi
01-06-2011, 05:28 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. . Without Luck, why would any team want to trade up? Really the first overall pick has to be DL. No OTs worth it, CBs dont go that high. Has to be either Dareus or Bowers. AJ Green is possible too, but needs to have a lights out combine. I wouldnt want that pick now, They wouldnt pick Blaine Gabbert right?

slipknottin
01-06-2011, 05:47 PM
I wouldnt want that pick now, They wouldnt pick Blaine Gabbert right?

Or Locker even. I dont know. This is the same team that thought Jimmy Clausen could be a franchise QB.

nycsportzfan
01-06-2011, 06:52 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. . Without Luck, why would any team want to trade up? Really the first overall pick has to be DL. No OTs worth it, CBs dont go that high. Has to be either Dareus or Bowers. AJ Green is possible too, but needs to have a lights out combine. I wouldnt want that pick now, They wouldnt pick Blaine Gabbert right? I woulden't want it either.. I mean, DE is not the best choice 1st overall, and its kinda early for Patrick Peterson, simply because hes all physical tools, and not all production, which i will always say, is most important.. Maybe they stay put and take AJ GREEN, that could be at least Justified.. Give Claussen a bonified number 1 weapon, then try hard to secure DJ WILLIAMS in RD 2... I know they need other stuff, but they are negative in the Weapon department.. U give Carolina AJ GREEN and DJ WILLIAMS to go with Gettis and Stewart, and a yr under claussen's belt, and at least u got a offense worthy of thinking about...

nycsportzfan
01-06-2011, 06:55 PM
Mallet has a terrific arm but everything else about him is very, very flawed.This guy is going to need some serious refinement in his technique in the NFL, the scouts are going to rip him like they did tebow</p> i tend to agree.. All though, i freaking loved Mallett before the game against Oh St, it really showed me what his flaws are, being that he faced a attacking defense, that continued to get pressure all game...
idk i think the oh st game made me like him even more. the way he handle the pressure and still delivered said a lot to me. Sure he needs some work, but what college QB doesnt? (besides luck, he is amazing;P)
there was a few plays, where if he had a Faster delivery, he'd of been able to at least get rid of the ball, and that hitch, just didn't allow it.. To me, he was shaken by the pressure, and really didn't handle it all that well, hes mighty slow on his feet, and again, just that little hitch in his delivery to go with that slowness, really worries me.. He reminds me of Shaub with a tad slower delivery, which is still good, but not superior.. THen again, for all i know, he could be the next Kurt Warner..lol

nycsportzfan
01-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. They have so many holes to patch up and not having a 2nd round pick at the moment hurts also.i think they might have done that even if luck was in the draft. i maintain that if luck came out elway woulda traded for the no1 pick and luck would be a bronco.
Especially is QB guru Jim Fassell ends up snatching the bronoc job as HC, Elway loves fassell and would of loved getting him a player like Luck to work with... Shoot, u gotta give it to Fassell, our Offense was Sad as can be before he took over, and he had Kerry COllins in the super bowl.. Fassell + Luck and Elway = positive start to bringing along your franchise...

BlueSanta
01-06-2011, 07:16 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. They have so many holes to patch up and not having a 2nd round pick at the moment hurts also.i think they might have done that even if luck was in the draft. i maintain that if luck came out elway woulda traded for the no1 pick and luck would be a bronco.
Especially is QB guru Jim Fassell ends up snatching the bronoc job as HC, Elway loves fassell and would of loved getting him a player like Luck to work with... Shoot, u gotta give it to Fassell, our Offense was Sad as can be before he took over, and he had Kerry COllins in the super bowl.. Fassell + Luck and Elway = positive start to bringing along your franchise...


as im sure u have heard by now, Luck is not going to the NFL.

Ill say it again, we cannot assume that players, even the most likely candidates to declare, will enter the NFL draft this year. Nobody wants to risk sitting out a year due to a lockout.

Neverend
01-07-2011, 05:40 PM
Looking forward to tonight's bowl game</P>


Time to see what drake nevis has got. love the guy and is a bit underrated. he is a little undersized tho and he struggles at the point of attack sometimes</P>


patrick peterson should put on a show on special teams. gets way with a lot of things because of his athleticism but a very talented athlete nonetheless</P>

thegreatone
01-07-2011, 06:51 PM
Well with Luck out of the draft now, the wisest thing for the Panthers to do is try and trade that 1st pick for additional picks if you ask me. They have so many holes to patch up and not having a 2nd round pick at the moment hurts also.i think they might have done that even if luck was in the draft. i maintain that if luck came out elway woulda traded for the no1 pick and luck would be a bronco.
Especially is QB guru Jim Fassell ends up snatching the bronoc job as HC, Elway loves fassell and would of loved getting him a player like Luck to work with... Shoot, u gotta give it to Fassell, our Offense was Sad as can be before he took over, and he had Kerry COllins in the super bowl.. Fassell + Luck and Elway = positive start to bringing along your franchise...
your forgetting a very important equation...sean payton

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 09:36 PM
This battle bewteen Fuller and Peterson is pretty good. Fuller keeps getting backshoulder grabs that Peterson cant defend. Im wondering if Peterson tries to cheat up to stop it and Fuller takes one deep.

nevada11
01-07-2011, 09:39 PM
This battle bewteen Fuller and Peterson is pretty good. Fuller keeps getting backshoulder grabs that Peterson cant defend. Im wondering if Peterson tries to cheat up to stop it and Fuller takes one deep.</P>


peterson is getting owned rite now. wouldnt be surprised if he gives up TD later on in the game</P>

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 09:42 PM
peterson is getting owned rite now. wouldnt be surprised if he gives up TD later on in the game</P>

Hes not getting owned, hes had pretty tight coverage all game.

The question with Peterson though has always been his technique. Whenever he plays an athlete who has really good physical ability, he doesnt look nearly as dominant.

nevada11
01-07-2011, 09:48 PM
peterson is getting owned rite now. wouldnt be surprised if he gives up TD later on in the game


</P>


Hes not getting owned, hes had pretty tight coverage all game. The question with Peterson though has always been his technique. Whenever he plays an athlete who has really good physical ability, he doesnt look nearly as dominant.</P>


only one throw he had tight coverage. the other 2 times he he got beat pretty good.</P>


i like the point u made about peterson playing athletes withgood physical ability. peterson is a beast athlete in himself.. in the nfl he's going to be covering WRs just as talented and athletic as he is. i dont think hes going to transition well in the nfl if hes going to be asked to cover number 1 WRs. he should start playing in the slot where he is going to beast</P>

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 09:59 PM
Wow Von Miller shot that gap like lightning.

nevada11
01-07-2011, 10:10 PM
Wow Von Miller shot that gap like lightning.
</P>


so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD</P>

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 10:15 PM
so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD</P>

I really dont understand what you are saying.

He shot his gap... which is what he was supposed to do and blew up a play in the backfield. How is that no gap integrity or discipline?

And coming off the edge, he played the run first in a goalline situation? Thats what hes supposed to do....

nevada11
01-07-2011, 10:23 PM
so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD


</P>


I really dont understand what you are saying. He shot his gap... which is what he was supposed to do and blew up a play in the backfield. How is that no gap integrity or discipline? And coming off the edge, he played the run first in a goalline situation? Thats what hes supposed to do....</P>


im not talking about that play stupid... im talking about him overall. LSU is having success running right at him.</P>


coming off the edge playing the run first? thats what hes supposed to do? are you freaking serious? especially against LSU QB the first thing you want to do is stay on the edge and respect his ability to run with the ball... all miller is doing is freelancing and showing a lack of discipline more often than not</P>

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 10:29 PM
im not talking about that play stupid... im talking about him overall. LSU is having success running right at him.
Hes made a couple good plays at the point of attack, hes having some trouble shedding and making the tackle himself though. Hes never really been a stout run defender, improved alot this year however.


coming off the edge playing the run first? thats what hes supposed to do? are you freaking serious? especially against LSU QB the first thing you want to do is stay on the edge and respect his ability to run with the ball...

It depends on the play call and the down and distance. You cant tell wether he is "freelancing" or not unless you know the call.

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 10:44 PM
Well it was a game before A&M decided to let Tolliver do whatever he wanted. Tolliver hasent done anything all year either, lol.

nevada11
01-07-2011, 11:22 PM
Golden boy patrick peterson has looked bad tonight (by his "shut down corner top 5 pick of the draft" standards). got beat downfield numerous times by a receiver who will get drafted in the 5th round most likely.</P>


If he gets drafted by dallas i cant wait for nicks to run circles around him HAHA!</P>

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 11:25 PM
No way Peterson is still on the board at #9 overall. Heck, he may go #1 overall. With no Luck in the draft, Peterson is the best player.

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 11:30 PM
Did not know that Peterson's middle name is De'mon. Strange.

nevada11
01-07-2011, 11:39 PM
No way Peterson is still on the board at #9 overall. Heck, he may go #1 overall. With no Luck in the draft, Peterson is the best player.</P>


Um, no. Panthers do not go CB. AJ Green is the best player in this draft now. He has more upside than peterson</P>

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 11:42 PM
Um, no. Panthers do not go CB. AJ Green is the best player in this draft now. He has more upside than peterson</P>

Thats possible too, either way, Peterson is a top 5 pick. No way he falls to 9.

nycsportzfan
01-07-2011, 11:51 PM
so? he has no gap integrity or discipline. that same TFL he made in the backfield was the same play he bit on that gave LSU's QB a TD

</p>

I really dont understand what you are saying.

He shot his gap... which is what he was supposed to do and blew up a play in the backfield. How is that no gap integrity or discipline?

And coming off the edge, he played the run first in a goalline situation? Thats what hes supposed to do.... Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is... I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying

slipknottin
01-07-2011, 11:55 PM
Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is...* I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying


Yea, i still dont have a good idea of where he goes though. I think hes a first rounder, but is he a top 15 guy? Or does he go one of the last picks of the first?

Neverend
01-08-2011, 01:41 AM
Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. Way too undersized to be any factor against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team

thegreatone
01-08-2011, 07:47 AM
Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. <font size="4">Way too undersized to be any factor</font> against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team6-3 240+ is undersized??

nycsportzfan
01-08-2011, 07:51 AM
Von Miller is going to a 3/4 team.... Hes way more of a 3/4 OLB then Ayers is... I would be shocked if Miller dosen't end up as a 3/4 OLB for someone... Not that u dont agree, but i'm just saying


Yea, i still dont have a good idea of where he goes though. I think hes a first rounder, but is he a top 15 guy? Or does he go one of the last picks of the first? thats a good question slip, and as usual, its gonna be extremely fun to see where the stones may drop...

Redeyejedi
01-10-2011, 10:53 AM
Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson. It sux that Temple missed a bowl game even though they went 8-4 I would of liked to see him one more time. The only game I saw him play was against Penn State and he looked pretty good.They lined him up a lot as a5 tech even 7.He has upside as a pass rusher, is scheme versatile as a 3 or 5 tech. I still think this teamneeds a beast 3 tech. Cantyhas been average and hasno guaranteed money left on his deal. With Coefield a free agent could the Giants cut Canty to keep Barry and go after another 3 tech in the draft. Probably not but I still think the spot needs to be upgraded. Anyone catch any games of him, more then me at least</P>

nycsportzfan
01-10-2011, 11:58 AM
Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson. It sux that Temple missed a bowl game even though they went 8-4 I would of liked to see him one more time. The only game I saw him play was against Penn State and he looked pretty good.They lined him up a lot as a5 tech even 7.He has upside as a pass rusher, is scheme versatile as a 3 or 5 tech. I still think this teamneeds a beast 3 tech. Cantyhas been average and hasno guaranteed money left on his deal. With Coefield a free agent could the Giants cut Canty to keep Barry and go after another 3 tech in the draft. Probably not but I still think the spot needs to be upgraded. Anyone catch any games of him, more then me at least</p> i don't know much about him Redeye, buts hes got intriguing Qualitys... I am amped to see Bernard Pierce next yr.. I hope hes fully healthy and gets a full yr of healthy ball in.... That dude is sensational when healthy.. Seriously, he mite be the best back in the country when fully healthy, i love em

slipknottin
01-10-2011, 12:00 PM
Anyone got thoughts on Temples Muhammad Wilkerson.

Late 1st, early 2nd. Imo

Neverend
01-10-2011, 01:02 PM
Von Miller played great. This guy has a nose for the QB. Von Miller's frame and the way he rushes the passer makes me wonder if the guy will make it in the NFL. <FONT size=4>Way too undersized to be any factor</FONT> against the run and his technique against the run is poor. Doesn't have a lot of pass rushing moves and takes himself out of plays too often for my liking. But for some odd the reason, the guy just continues to play dominant football. I can't put my finger on this kid, I really can't. He looks like an oversized safety but rushes the passer like hes 260, rare talent indeed. A lock to go into the 1st round to a 3-4 team6-3 240+ is undersized??
</P>


The guy is not bigger than 240 pounds... He looks barely 230 and really lacks upper body strength, might struggle shedding blocks in the NFL probably</P>

Redeyejedi
01-18-2011, 05:50 PM
Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </P>


</P>


Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</P>


Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</P>


Here is the height weight chart</P>


EAST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/East.jpg

WEST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/West.jpg</P>


</P>


</P>

Redeyejedi
01-18-2011, 05:54 PM
Some stuff i found around the net http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=4232</P>


Marvin Austin DL North Carolina </P>


Tues: Started slow but really picked it up. Showed a lot of power, quickness and explosion.</P>


Rarely got held up off the line.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Ryan Bartholomew OL Syracuse </P>


Tues:</P>


Moves well yet got smoked on a number of plays and on the ground too much.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Bryant Browning OL Ohio State</P>


Tues: Awful technician; narrow base and does not sink his butt which adversely effected his run</P>


blocking ability. Moved well and solid in pass protection.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Mario Butler DB Georgia Tech</P>


Tues: Looked good in drills. Fluid and smooth. Also made some nice plays facing the action.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Wes Byrum K Auburn</P>


Tues: Kick-offs were not good.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Delone Carter RB Syracuse</P>


Tues: Some shiftiness and a nice burst. Willingly took it up the middle.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Graig Cooper RB Miami</P>


Tues: Looked good. Quick footed and very shifty. Nice creativity on the inside. Not wearing a</P>


knee brace.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Akem Dent LB Georgia</P>


Tues:</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Patrick Devlin QB Delaware</P>


Tues: Really struggled to throw the ball. Passes float and wobble. Did not look good.</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Ricky Dobbs QB Navy</P>


Tues:</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Charles Gantt TE Michigan State</P>


Tues: Really looked dominant as a blocker. Jumped offside part of the day but still looked</P>


good.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Eric Gordon DB Michigan State</P>


Tues: Listed at strong safety.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Christian Hairston OL Clemson</P>


Tues: Average day. Big guy but not as dominant as you’d think.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Jermale Hines DB Ohio State</P>


Tues: Looked best moving up the field. Slow and mechanical in his peddle.</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Douglas Hogue LB Syracuse</P>


Tues:</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Randall Hunt OL Illinois</P>


Tues: Violent blocker that controls opponents once he gets his hands on them. Then again got beaten bad on a number of occasions when opponents got the first step on him and he had to adjust. Slightly stiff.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Lestar Jean WR Florida Atlantic</P>


Tues:</P>


Tall target. Gets off the line quickly. Lost out battling Justin Rogers of Richmond.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Brian Lainhart DB Kent State</P>


Tues: Just looks slow and as though he’s forcing the issue in drills. Nothing to make us not believe he’s just a straight line safety.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Scott Lutrus LB Connecticut</P>


Tues: Showed a lot of athleticism on the field.</P>


Wed: </P>


—
Gregory Lyoyd II LB Connecticut</P>


Tues: Mentally gets it but lacks quickness and agility.</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Terrell McClain DL USF</P>


Tues: Really had a solid day. Explosive off the snap and great all around quickness. Not the strongest yet held his own.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Josh McNary LB Army</P>


Tues: Looked athletic and forceful. Made a number of nice plays.</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Bruce Miller DL UCF</P>


Tues: Solely played defensive end. Fast off the edge and showed some quickness yet cannot get off blocks. Really goes hard.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Jonathan Nelson DB Oklahoma</P>


Tues: Made a nice pick then came back and got beaten badly trying to defend the run (DeLone</P>


Carter?).</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Olong Ogbu DL Penn State</P>


Tues: Fires off the snap with a tremendous first step which gave him an advantage over the poor o-linemen of the East. Fought hard and was not dominated.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Martin Parker DL Richmond</P>


Tues: Impressive. Looked quick, athletic and better than average strength. Won out a number of times in one-on-one drills and more than held his own.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Jah Reid OL UCF</P>


Tues: Big, monstrous right tackle that flashed. Struggled to adjust but showed some skills.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Justin Rogers DB Richmond</P>


Tues: Looked good all the way around. Quick feet, nice burst and fast. Made a nice break-up against Cecil Shorts in scrimmage.</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Brian Rolle LB Ohio State</P>


Tues: Made a few nice plays but constantly swallowed by blocks.</P>


Wed: </P>


—</P>


Evan Royster RB Penn State</P>


Tues: Just a one cut runner yet a very good one-cut runner.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Anthony Sherman FB Connecticut</P>


Tues: Displayed deceptive speed and on a number of occasions was able to turn the corner</P>


carrying the ball. Blue collar blocker.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Cecil Shorts WR Mt. Union</P>


Tues: Ran decent routes. Made a nice grab on an out with a defender draped on him. Still</P>


leaves his feet unnecessarily at times.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


David Sims DB Iowa State</P>


Tues:</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Greg Smith TE Texas</P>


Tues: Slightly disappointed. Looked off balance and struggled finishing blocks.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Mike Smith OL Nebraska</P>


Tues: Played left tackle and wasn’t awful Controlled opponents once he gets his hands on</P>


them.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech</P>


Tues: Threw the ball reasonably well but he’s short. Strains to see over the offensive linemen.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Josh Thomas DB Buffalo</P>


Tues: Slightly disappointing in that we thought his foot quickness and backpedal would be better.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Terrence Toliver WR LSU</P>


Tues: Did a good job blocking.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Justin Trattou DL Florida</P>


Tues: Gave more than we thought; better athlete, pass rusher, etc.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Terrence Turner WR Indiana</P>


Tues:</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Demarcus Van Dyke DB Miami</P>


Tues: Looked great mechanically in drills. Flamingo thin legs.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Kyle Adams TE Purdue</P>


Tues: Worked his blocks. Technically sound.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Beau Warren OL Virginia Tech</P>


Tues: Quick and got leverage on opponents yet also manhandled by Austin and McClain at times.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


William Rackley OL Lehigh</P>


Tues: Played right tackle and struggled. Looked very passive and did too much catching defenders. Better off at guard.</P>


Wed:</P>


—</P>


Kenny Rowe DL Oregon</P>


Tues: Flashed playmaking skill. Tall, angular </P>

Neverend
01-18-2011, 05:57 PM
Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</P>


</P>


Nice. Because that's my personal issue with him. He plays with sloppy technique sometimes but gets away with it because </P>


a) his terrific speed and athleticism</P>


b) QBs in college football tend to always throw floaters so its easy to recover when you get beat</P>

thegreatone
01-18-2011, 07:11 PM
good stuff thanks. made me laugh



Demarcus Van *** DB Miami</p>
Tues: Looked great mechanically in drills. Flamingo thin legs.

nevada11
01-19-2011, 01:16 AM
Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</P>


</P>


Nice. Because that's my personal issue with him. He plays with sloppy technique sometimes but gets away with it because </P>


a) his terrific speed and athleticism</P>


b) QBs in college football tend to always throw floaters so its easy to recover when you get beat</P>


</P>


patrick peterson is by far the best CB to come out since darelle revis, get your facts straight.</P>

slipknottin
01-19-2011, 01:24 AM
[patrick peterson is by far the best CB to come out since darelle revis, get your facts straight.</P>

Based on size and athleticism, not technique.

nycsportzfan
01-19-2011, 05:48 AM
Terrell McClain DL USF</p>


Tues: Really had a solid day. Explosive off the snap and great all around quickness. Not the strongest yet held his own.</p>


Wed:</p>


—-</p>

I really like this guy, as i mentioned in the sleeper thread... I am gonna be keeping close tabs from here till draft... Good size, explosion, no real weakness against the pass or run... This guys a serious sleeper, in my opinion...
</p>

nycsportzfan
01-19-2011, 06:00 AM
Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </p>


</p>


Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</p>


Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</p>


Here is the height weight chart</p>


EAST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/East.jpg

WEST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/West.jpg</p>


</p>


</p> So many intresting prospects to even comprehend..lol Some of the Ht and Wt's are surprising, for the good and bad... Like mario butler only being a touch over 180... I could swear he was 190ish, watching him play.. Not that big a deal, just a tad surprising.. How about Barksdale at 336! Is he a Guard, ya think? Hes not overly athletic, and weights over the mid 330's, so a power guard may be best sutied, for barksdale.. I'm dying to no how fast Cortez Allen runs, with that size!

Neverend
01-19-2011, 08:16 AM
Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</P>


</P>


Nice. Because that's my personal issue with him. He plays with sloppy technique sometimes but gets away with it because </P>


a) his terrific speed and athleticism</P>


b) QBs in college football tend to always throw floaters so its easy to recover when you get beat</P>


</P>


patrick peterson is by far the best CB to come out since darelle revis, get your facts straight.</P>


</P>


darelle revis wasnt even considered the best CB coming out ofhis draft class, how about YOU get your facts straight. peterson is probably the most athletic CB to come out since cromartie, but that dosen't translate to success. CB is already a tough position to play as it is. i dont think peterson is a bad player, absolutely not, just some flaws i think he needs to improve on. in the nfl receivers are very talented and athletic and QBs (usually) throw passes in-stride</P>

thegreatone
01-19-2011, 09:00 AM
Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </p>


</p>


Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</p>


Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</p>


Here is the height weight chart</p>


EAST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/East.jpg

WEST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/West.jpg</p>


</p>


</p> So many intresting prospects to even comprehend..lol Some of the Ht and Wt's are surprising, for the good and bad... Like mario butler only being a touch over 180... I could swear he was 190ish, watching him play.. Not that big a deal, just a tad surprising.. How about Barksdale at 336! Is he a Guard, ya think? Hes not overly athletic, and weights over the mid 330's, so a power guard may be best sutied, for barksdale.. I'm dying to no how fast Cortez Allen runs, with that size!

i know this is gonna be a good game. my favorite sleeper RB cooper is sounding good. wish taylor was a little taller as i love him as a project QB but i dont think he's any shorter than brees..is he?

nycsportzfan
01-19-2011, 09:33 AM
Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </p>


</p>


Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</p>


Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</p>


Here is the height weight chart</p>


EAST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/East.jpg

WEST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/West.jpg</p>


</p>


</p> So many intresting prospects to even comprehend..lol Some of the Ht and Wt's are surprising, for the good and bad... Like mario butler only being a touch over 180... I could swear he was 190ish, watching him play.. Not that big a deal, just a tad surprising.. How about Barksdale at 336! Is he a Guard, ya think? Hes not overly athletic, and weights over the mid 330's, so a power guard may be best sutied, for barksdale.. I'm dying to no how fast Cortez Allen runs, with that size!

i know this is gonna be a good game. my favorite sleeper RB cooper is sounding good. wish taylor was a little taller as i love him as a project QB but i dont think he's any shorter than brees..is he?
the only problem is, he dosen't throw it like brees.. Taylor could be pretty solid, in due time, but Brees was a 2nd rd pick, who threw masterfully througout his college career, so the HT thing, matters little, when comparing the 2...

Taylor could be somesort of Wildcat weapon who potentially down the line gets a chance and is the type of QB who wins games with a mixture of using his feet, and timely throws, and making the big pass when needed, but i never see him slinging it around 30times a game, completing 22 of em, or anything like that, on the regular...

I'm a kapernick guy myself..

nycsportzfan
01-19-2011, 09:36 AM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol

Redeyejedi
01-19-2011, 09:46 AM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Leshoureis asolid player. Im for drafting him if they dont bring back Bradshaw or cut Jacobs. If there planning on keeping them bothhe doesnt make much sense.

Redeyejedi
01-19-2011, 09:55 AM
Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </P>


</P>


Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</P>


Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</P>


Here is the height weight chart</P>


EAST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/East.jpg

WEST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/West.jpg</P>


</P>


</P> So many intresting prospects to even comprehend..lol Some of the Ht and Wt's are surprising, for the good and bad... Like mario butler only being a touch over 180... I could swear he was 190ish, watching him play.. Not that big a deal, just a tad surprising.. How about Barksdale at 336! Is he a Guard, ya think? Hes not overly athletic, and weights over the mid 330's, so a power guard may be best sutied, for barksdale.. I'm dying to no how fast Cortez Allen runs, with that size!

i know this is gonna be a good game. my favorite sleeper RB cooper is sounding good. wish taylor was a little taller as i love him as a project QB but i dont think he's any shorter than brees..is he?
the only problem is, he dosen't throw it like brees.. Taylor could be pretty solid, in due time, but Brees was a 2nd rd pick, who threw masterfully througout his college career, so the HT thing, matters little, when comparing the 2...

Taylor could be somesort of Wildcat weapon who potentially down the line gets a chance and is the type of QB who wins games with a mixture of using his feet, and timely throws, and making the big pass when needed, but i never see him slinging it around 30times a game, completing 22 of em, or anything like that, on the regular...

I'm a kapernick guy myself..
Yes it would be nice for the Giants to try to bring some different looks into the offense . We dont show enough in terms of formations and player groupings.Not sure how well either would grasp KG's offense . I like very much the idea of bringing in a 3rd QB thats athletic. It would give them a reason to be on the 53 man roster. If they arent on the roster though its a complete waste to use a draft pick. We drafted Bomar with a 5th rounder developed him for 2 years and he gets claimed. a total frickin waste

thegreatone
01-19-2011, 10:37 AM
Shrine Bowl practices started up today. Not sure if anyone belongs to any of the sites that have running blogs but if they do if they could paraphrase it would be cool. </p>


</p>


Rumor has itPatrick Peterson is down in FL working out with Sam Madision polishing up his technique</p>


Dontay Moch weighed in at 229 and is listed as an OLB for the West</p>


Here is the height weight chart</p>


EAST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/East.jpg

WEST:
http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c1910342/media_center/images/static/total_access/West.jpg</p>


</p>


</p> So many intresting prospects to even comprehend..lol Some of the Ht and Wt's are surprising, for the good and bad... Like mario butler only being a touch over 180... I could swear he was 190ish, watching him play.. Not that big a deal, just a tad surprising.. How about Barksdale at 336! Is he a Guard, ya think? Hes not overly athletic, and weights over the mid 330's, so a power guard may be best sutied, for barksdale.. I'm dying to no how fast Cortez Allen runs, with that size!

i know this is gonna be a good game. my favorite sleeper RB cooper is sounding good. wish taylor was a little taller as i love him as a project QB but i dont think he's any shorter than brees..is he?
the only problem is, he dosen't throw it like brees.. Taylor could be pretty solid, in due time, but Brees was a 2nd rd pick, who threw masterfully througout his college career, so the HT thing, matters little, when comparing the 2...

Taylor could be somesort of Wildcat weapon who potentially down the line gets a chance and is the type of QB who wins games with a mixture of using his feet, and timely throws, and making the big pass when needed, but i never see him slinging it around 30times a game, completing 22 of em, or anything like that, on the regular...

I'm a kapernick guy myself..
i like colin as well. i think taylor could be that guy too but will take some time. Brees didnt really come into his own till his 4th season. i dont think he will ever be as GOOD as brees, lets be honest not many will, but he will be a good qb imo. Colin is more accurate but i wonder how much of that is credited to the pistol offense ie players coming up to defend the run leaving wr's open. I wish taylor was a little more accurate but love his athleticism and the way he takes care of the ball.

Redeyejedi
01-20-2011, 10:08 AM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Dude I almost got killed yesterday. This chick went through a stop sign and I Tboned her. I think my car is totaled.

ny06
01-20-2011, 10:16 AM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Dude I almost got killed yesterday. This chick went through a stop sign and I Tboned her. I think my car is totaled.</P>


That sucks..</P>

thegreatone
01-20-2011, 10:54 AM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Dude I almost got killed yesterday. This chick went through a stop sign and I Tboned her. I think my car is totaled.wow! glad your ok man!

G-Men Surg.
01-20-2011, 11:26 AM
Mark Herzlich Boston College, if he comes back this year healthy the giants have to take him.
I've watch closely this kid career and absolutely love him ! Hope he stays healthy and I will be very, very happy if he gets to wear a Giants blue jersey in the near future.
If he can say healthy I truly believe he can become a great play maker in the NFL. I will be ecstatic seeing him play the strong side for us for many years to come. He is indeed the perfect prototype SLB for the Giants IMO .

Redeyejedi
01-20-2011, 01:51 PM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Dude I almost got killed yesterday. This chick went through a stop sign and I Tboned her. I think my car is totaled.wow! glad your ok man!
Thanks man, the front end of my car got completly crushed.

Neverend
01-20-2011, 02:47 PM
Mark Herzlich Boston College, if he comes back this year healthy the giants have to take him. I've watch closely this kid career and absolutely love him ! Hope he stays healthy and I will be very, very happy if he gets to wear a Giants blue jersey in the near future. If he can say healthy I truly believe he can become a great play maker in the NFL. I will be ecstatic seeing him play the strong side for us for many years to come. He is indeed the perfect prototype SLB for the Giants IMO .</P>


I agree that Herzlich has great playmaker potential due to his terrific motor, instincts, and leadership ability. But I don't know, before he got cancer this guy was an absolute thumper against the run. Now it seems like he sheds blocks pretty average now. Todd mcshay (yes him lol) said he has been following him and noticed that herzlich has been getting stronger in his play every week. That's a good sign. He didn't really stand out to me in the bowl game tho. The fact that he was going to be a top 15 pick before injury means a team will take a chance on him</P>

lawl
01-20-2011, 03:08 PM
A few people mind summing up the relative strengths of each round*of each position?

Ask again on the 18th.

That way we will know what underclassmen have declared.
Bump

BigBlue2010
01-20-2011, 03:15 PM
* Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol* I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Dude I almost got killed yesterday. This chick went through a stop sign and I Tboned her. I think my car is totaled.

****, good luck.

Redeyejedi
01-29-2011, 12:31 PM
Just Bumping this thread. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Senior-Bowl-practice-week-All-Stars-South-T?urn=nfl-314104</P>


SOUTH TEAM PRACTICE STAND OUTS</P>


Quarterback: Christian Ponder, Florida State -- Perhaps the most well-developed quarterback here from a playbook and awareness perspective. Had Ponder not been challenged by shoulder and elbow injuries through his junior and senior seasons, he would most likely be a lead-pipe lock as a first-round pick. But he checked out medically here, and he showed what you see on tape - a great sense of route development from 0-20 yards, the occasional well-thrown deep ball, nice mobility in and out the pocket, and solid overall mechanics. Any team looking for a young quarterback to run their West Coast offense would have to be impressed with what they saw from Ponder this week.</P>


Running back: Derrick Locke, Kentucky -- Locke had a lot to prove this week, and he ran like it at all times. He told me that NFL teams will naturally be concerned that at his size (5-8, 186), he'll be able to run between the tackles. Every day, he ran inside with authority and broke through the pile a few times. I think he put himself on the radar of a few NFL teams here, and he'll be another one to watch through Combine and Pro Day.</P>


Receivers: Leonard Hankerson, Miami/Ronald Johnson, USC -- Hankerson was the star among all the receivers to many analysts - people like his smooth stride and ability to run routes very well. While I echo those sentiments, and also liked his toughness when going low in traffic on comebacks, I'm a little concerned that Hankerson's lack of speed will affect his NFL prospects. He doesn't make a hard cut in stride - it takes him a second to get back up to speed - and I don't know that you can get away with that against faster and more complex NFL defenses. Johnson consistently impressed me as a slot receiver; he is quick enough to get open in short spaces and helped Hankerson and other bigger receivers by taking the inside route on combo routes very quickly.</P>


Honorable mention to West Virginia's Jock Sanders, who came to Mobile as a late add and blew me away with his speed on quick stutter-go routes from the slot. Size concerns will dog him, but that kid is ridiculously fast.</P>


Tight Ends: <SPAN class=ysp-player>DJ Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6776/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6776/news),</SPAN> Arkansas/Luke Stocker, Tennessee -- Not much to talk about at the tight end position on the North team, but the South had two standouts. I liked Williams' turn-and-go when getting open downfield, and he has great hands - one hand naturally follows the other when he's bringing the ball in and he's quick to grab the pass in the end zone. Stocker was one of the most physically impressive players through practice week because he caught everything thrown his way, and he also held on early in the week when Alabama's Greg McElroy throw him right into a huge hit in the secondary. He's that big, <SPAN class=ysp-player>Jason Witten (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6405/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6405/news)-type</SPAN> tight end who can do just about everything - a skill set that will never go out of style.</P>


Offensive Line</P>


Tackle: Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State -- Unlike the North team, which was loaded with tackles of interest, the South squad seemed to have more going on with its interior linemen, That said, those North tackles all struggled with consistency on a day-to-day basis, and that's one thing Sherrod didn't do - he gave a solid level of performance every day. Playing right tackle at times, he made "flipping the protections" look a lot easier than it can be. Sherrod is a smooth blocker who reminds me of <SPAN class=ysp-player>Jason Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9266/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9266/news),</SPAN> and I wonder if he might not wind up as an outstanding right tackle as Smith has become for the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/stl/). </P>


Interior Linemen: Rodney Hudson, Florida State/Danny Watkins, Baylor -- Hudson may be on the wrong side of 300 pounds, but he plays about 30 pounds heavier than he is, because he starts so low before the snap and explodes into the defender's pads. No matter who he had on him during practice week, Hudson would not be denied. I wonder if his build (he doesn't have a really wide base in his lower body) might be more tailored to the center position. Watkins, the 26-year-old former firefighter form Canada who wound up replacing Jason Smith at Baylor, looked pretty solid at guard and told me that he felt especially comfortable at center. All through the week, he played with a serious nasty streak - he stood some good defenders up and he'll come away from this experience with a few new converts on the NFL side.</P><A name=remaining-content></A>


Defensive Linemen: Phil Taylor, Baylor/Pernell McPhee, Mississippi State -- At 6-4 and 330 pounds, Taylor surprised a lot of people with his quickness - he looked more like a 300-pound three-tech when doing agility drills. McPhee showed a lot of aggressiveness through the week, consistently driving blockers back and exhibiting good quickness in short spaces. He may not be an edge rusher per se, but he could complement an NFL pass rusher very well. What I liked best about McPhee was that he got penetration with inside and outside moves - he didn't seem limited when his options went one way of the other.</P>


Linebacker: Von Miller, Texas A &amp; M -- It's not that we didn't expect Miller to stand out, but the fact that he lived up to all expectations is a good indicator of what he brings to whatever he does on the field. Miller had the benefit of practicing all week against a stellar roster of tight ends, and he took advantage, shadowing Arkasas' D.J. Williams especially well. Everyone knows that Miller is a great pass rusher and a downhill thumper as an inline tackler - add his increased versatility shown on Mobile, and Miller is looking closer at a possible top 15 draft pick.</P>


Defensive Backs: Curtis Brown, Texas/Shareece Wright, USC -- Two aggressive cornerbacks here. Brown can get a little grabby at times, something you hope his NFL coaching staff will train out of him before he gets a rep with officials at the pro level. But he's very quick in short spaces and he has good recovery speed. Brown's major problem - and this is true of Wright as well - is the occasional gamble leading to a score. While that may be a product of the fact that defenses are basically limited to single-high safety zone coverages (Cover-1 and Cover-3), it's something to watch going forward.</P>


NORTH TEAM STANDOUTS</P>


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/The-Senior-Bowl-practice-week-All-Stars-North-T?urn=nfl-313930</P>


Quarterback: Colin Kaepernick, Nevada - The six quarterbacks trying to outdo each other during Senior Bowl practice week have been a general hodge-podge, with a different quarterback looking best nearly every day. But Kaepernick, who played in the Pistol formation under Chris Ault, showed that he could throw under center and in true shotgun with no trouble whatsoever, and he was the one quarterback who seemed to display consistent development every day - he threw some gorgeous passes on Thursday. Kaepernick's throwing motion needs some help (he's got a hitch that causes a slight delay), but he's gained a lot of interest in these practices.</P>


Running back: DeMarco Murray, Oklahoma - Nothing against Oklahoma State's Kendall Hunter, who ran well all week, but Murray was as impressive as you'd expect from his game tape, and he had a few surprises in store. We saw the ridiculous burst and downfield speed he's always had, but he also caught passes and proved to have an understanding of short routes, and he was tough down the sideline, dragging tacklers with him as he steamed downfield. If an NFL team with a zone slide blocking scheme gets a hold of this guy, watch out - we may have the next <SPAN class=ysp-player>Jamaal Charles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8850/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8850/news)</SPAN> on our hands. </P>


Receivers: Vincent Brown, San Diego State/Austin Pettis, Boise State - Brown was probably the most consistent receiver in a practice system that has wideouts taking passes from quarterbacks they're never seen before in round-robin fashion. Not that San Diego State is a "small school", but if there's one guy under the radar who could come out of this week with a stock increase it's Brown, whose skill set reminds some of Keenan McCardell.</P>


Pettis is more the pure possession receiver ,and as much as everyone was talking Miami's Leonard Hankerson up on the South team (you'll be hearing more about Hankerson late), I thought Pettis possessed a similar skill set, and he was a little quicker off the line and in his cuts.</P>


Offensive Line</P>


Tackles: Anthony Castonzo, Boston College/Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin - None of the North tackles were consistent from day to day, but I thought that Castonzo, who struggled a bit early on and flashed dominance at time later in the week, and Carimi, who impressed with a lower base early on and got abused at points as the week went on, were the best of the bunch. Castonzo is a pure tackle - he looked really rough when asked to line up inside at guard - and Carimi has left questions about his footwork for all his recently improved technique. No tackle in this draft class has set himself apart as a dominant force.</P>


Interior Lineman: Stephen Schilling, Michigan - This was a tough position to grade on the North team. Schilling got bulled over a few times, but he showed good fight and hand punch. I've seen Wisconsin's guard Jonathan Moffitt's name come up with a positive grade in a few reports, but I thought he really struggled staying in his base and blocking defenders out with any kind of agility.</P><A name=remaining-content></A>


Defensive Linemen: Cameron Jordan, Cal/Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue - With the increasing preponderance of NFL teams playing 3-man fronts, it's interesting that the two best North ends fit well into most 3-4 schemes from a size perspective, Jordan continued the recent trend of outstanding Cal defensive linemen established by <SPAN class=ysp-player>Brandon Mebane (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8339/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8339/news)</SPAN> and <SPAN class=ysp-player>Tyson Alualu (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/23985/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/23985/news)</SPAN> and showed up strong in Mobile. He's impressed at both end and tackle, making me think that teams looking for <SPAN class=ysp-player>Justin Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5451/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5451/news)</SPAN> hybrid defender who can line up all over the place would be well-served by taking a good hard look at Jordan.</P>


Kerrigan showed up at 255 pounds, about 10 pounds under his standard playing weight, and he seemed to be looking at a position change to 3-4 "endbacker" in the right system by dropping into coverage at times.</P>


Linebackers: Casey Matthews, Oregon/Mason Foster, Washington - Matthews picked off a pass in goal line practice in mid-week, trying to show that he can do more than rush the passer - it's important to remember that as much as brother Clay has been a dominant pass rusher in the NFL, his rookie year was marked by as much coverage as anything else. Foster, who would fit very well in any kind of Cover-2/Tamps-2 system in which rangy linebackers rule the day, was a whirling dervish through practice week. Foster's challenge at the next level will be to prove that he can add a physical presence when tackling to an overall skill set that looks more and more impressive the more you see of him. </P>


Defensive Back: Kendric Burney, North Carolina - it's hard to pick out defensive backs who stand out when teams are limited to Cover-1 and Cover-3 schemes, and quarterbacks are throwing to receivers they've never faced before. To make an impression at that point, you'd better be near the ball all the time, and Burney did just that. His highlight day was Thursday, when he picked two passes and almost had a third, but he looked very good all week. Thought to be a high-caliber nickel back because of his size (5-9, 181), Burney did everything he possibly could to increase his stock during practices.</P>

slipknottin
01-29-2011, 12:40 PM
That article is a damn good summary.

I really think Mason Foster is the perfect fit for the giants.

nycsportzfan
01-30-2011, 09:37 PM
Mel Kipers Mock Draft is on Espn Right now, and let it be known, i had Mikel Leshoure moving up into RD 1 before him!!!!!lol I said expect him to have a ryan matthews, knowhson moreno type rise... Your beat Kiper!!!!lol
Dude I almost got killed yesterday. This chick went through a stop sign and I Tboned her. I think my car is totaled. damn redeye, this is a classic post, that i wish i never missed untill now, because i would of liked to tell u, that i'm glad your all right, and that stinks... My bad, not seeing this untill now.. Sometimes, i miss posts...lol

nycsportzfan
01-30-2011, 09:39 PM
That article is a damn good summary.

I really think Mason Foster is the perfect fit for the giants. I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... I love Ayers and would like him more, but after Ayers, its mason foster...

slipknottin
01-30-2011, 09:57 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now...* Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional....

my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder?

nycsportzfan
01-30-2011, 10:09 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional....

my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...

slipknottin
01-30-2011, 10:15 PM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...


its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.

BlueSanta
01-31-2011, 08:07 AM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...


its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.

A couple different sites have noted how Foster's athleticism was a pleasant suprise during the senior bowl week. I think he will perform well at the combine and his stock will continue to rise.

I also think Kelvin Sheppard showed well.

Coming into last week a lot of people questioned him as being another 1 of those LSU LBs who's numbers were inflated because of LSU's tendency to have MASSIVE DTs. However, unlike LSU LBs of recent years, Sheppard performed very well in practices, 1v1 drills, and in the game. His range was a big question mark as well and he did well in those drills. I think people will take his numbers more seriously now.

Redeyejedi
01-31-2011, 08:13 AM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round

thegreatone
01-31-2011, 08:39 AM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...


its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.i think my boy bruce is gonna rip it up. just hope we get him in the 2nd over foster.

Raptor22
01-31-2011, 08:50 AM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...


its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.i think my boy bruce is gonna rip it up. just hope we get him in the 2nd over foster.


I didn't think Carter would be healthy enough to do anything at the combine (which was supposed to be what catapulted him into the 1st round).

I still think the Giants should trade back, grab BPA in the late twenties (I'd like either Carimi or LeShoure) and then grab 2 linebackers and a corner in rounds 2-3.

Redeyejedi
01-31-2011, 09:03 AM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.i think my boy bruce is gonna rip it up. just hope we get him in the 2nd over foster.
He had the most potential but his injury is serious. If he no longer has the foot speed to stay with TE's, RB's and even slot receivers in man his value goes down significantly.He was so attractive because heoffered so much versatility in pass coverageon a frame to add bulk.His upside was tremendous. His ceiling was having him be a 245 pound safety that runs a 4.5 . With athleticism like that the coverage versatility, the zone blitzes U could run. His athleticism makes U overlook some of his flaws. With that diminished U arent looking over his flaws and what are U really left with. Someone will roll the dice though and it wouldnt shock me to see the Eagles be the ones to do it.I think Philly is going to get one of those NC linebackers I just have this gut feeling

Neverend
01-31-2011, 09:21 AM
yeah bruce carter with his acl is a risk. plus, similar to akeem ayers, he lacks instincts in his game. Sometimes too aggressive and other times he's too tentative for my liking. But his physical measurables are extremely rare at his position and very much hard to ignore. But will his surgery limit his ability and take away his explosiveness? Maybe.

thegreatone
01-31-2011, 10:47 AM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...


its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.i think my boy bruce is gonna rip it up. just hope we get him in the 2nd over foster.


I didn't think Carter would be healthy enough to do anything at the combine (which was supposed to be what catapulted him into the 1st round).

I still think the Giants should trade back, grab BPA in the late twenties (I'd like either Carimi or LeShoure) and then grab 2 linebackers and a corner in rounds 2-3.

i thought he was gonna be able to compete in the prodays, just read an article that said otherwise. if the eagle get him or quan i will flip. that'll be 2 years in a row they take a lb'r i highly covet(jamar chaney). its unfair to say he will loose a step. some players can come back and look like it never happened. some actually work themselves into BETTER shape (rare), and then some loose it. have to wait and see but id definately roll the dice and i agree 100% on the trade back scenario.

Kase-1
01-31-2011, 01:26 PM
Whatta you guys think of Greg Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwgT6dtWpo) from Mich St?? He's played MIKE and SAM his whole college career so the transition should go smoothly.... AND he's been drawing comparisons to Sean Weatherspoon from last year so I know some of you guys will be getting raging hard-on's for him now, LOL

here's a lil something I found about him from cbssports.com

<table class="data" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="title"><td>Overview</td></tr>
<tr class="row1"><td>



After originally committing to Minnesota, Jones decided to go to East
Lansing instead because of the Spartans' more recent success and a
shorter drive for his parents from Cincinnati. The Spartans have enjoyed
having the relatively unheralded Ohio product in their defensive huddle
-- as a player and leader -- since he arrived on campus.


</p>

Several outlets named Jones a freshman All-American. He led the
team in tackles (for the first of three straight years) with seven
starts in 13 games from the strong-side linebacker spot. He also led Big
Ten freshmen in that category with 78, accumulating 8.5 tackles for
loss and 4.5 sacks. The league's coaches awarded him first-team
all-conference honors as a sophomore when he made 127 tackles (80 solo),
14 for loss and two sacks while starting at both SAM (eight games) and
MIKE (five). In 2009, Jones was a consensus All-American and named the
Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year by the league media with 154
tackles (67 solo), 13.5 for loss and 6.5 sacks.


</p>

A similar prospect to former Missouri linebacker and 2010
first-round pick Sean Weatherspoon, Jones doesn't wow scouts with his
size (he hopes to weigh in at 240 pounds before the draft next April).
But his production, leadership and speed in the middle may help NFL
teams overlook his lack of height and slight frame. He is a likely
starter in whatever defensive system he is asked to play, though some
teams might choose to move him back outside with the hope he could be a
pass-rushing force and factor in coverage at the next level.
</p></td></tr>
</tbody></table>


<table class="data" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="title"><td>Analysis</td></tr>
<tr class="row1"><td>



Read &amp; React: Very instinctual player, which is why he can play
the middle with an average frame. Might take a false step on bootlegs
and misdirection but reacts and accelerates quickly enough to prevent
big plays. Sees the ball so well inside that linemen must get more than a
hand on him to negate his playmaking ability.


</p>

Run defense: A bit smaller than teams prefer as an in-the-box
presence, yet very effective as a run defender. Flows to the ball and
reads his keys well, at times moving towards the play side before the
snap. Picks his way through traffic on most plays but gets caught up in
trash and engulfed by offensive linemen at times due to his small frame.
Plays with leverage, however, against blocks to hold his ground or
bounce off to chase plays down the field. Stays low to the ground to
defeat cut blocks with his hands. Also uses his hands or a swim move to
avoid approaching linemen, albeit consistently. Is a bit aggressive in
his angles; quicker backs can beat him to the corner on occasion.


</p>

Pass defense: Fluid pass defender in space, owns the hips and
athleticism to stay with running backs out of the backfield. Keeps
athletic position when greeting backs in the hole, reads and reacts
quickly to out routes or square-ins. Will take a step in on play action
and overrun routes, but recovers well enough to make a play on the ball.
Faces match-up problems against taller, stronger tight ends over the
middle. Has not intercepted a pass or knocked away many passes.


</p>

Tackling: Excellent pursuit tackler. Excels as a drag-down
tackler in traffic or in space, but can be explosive as well when lined
up. Goes sideline-to-sideline, giving great effort to chase down fast
ballcarriers in order to prevent touchdowns. A bit undersized to stop
larger running backs and tight ends in their tracks, but plays with a
low center of gravity to hold them up until help arrives. Typically
flows well to the ball but will overrun plays occasionally because of
his aggressive style. Inconsistent getting off linemen blocks inside but
defeats those from most tight ends on the edge. Could be an exceptional
special teams coverage unit performer.


</p>

Pass Rush/Blitz: Effective blitzer because of his ability to
anticipate the snap count, read gaps and explode through them. Uses
hands to defeat pulling guards and fullbacks in the hole. Plays with
leverage, gets under the shoulder of guards to beat them inside when the
space is available. Has speed to turn the corner when blitzing from
outside. Hustles toward the ball until it is away. Good change of
direction to track down mobile quarterbacks in the pocket or chase them
down outside of it. His lack of size allows linemen to latch on if they
get a hand on him, though he still sometimes manages to get a hand on
backs coming through the vacated hole while engaged.


</p>

Intangibles: Considered the team's greatest playmaker and leader
on defense, as well as a solid young man. Voted co-captain by coaches
and teammates. Gives full effort in weight room and on the practice
field. Mentors and commands respect from younger players. Durable
performer who hasn't missed a game in three years despite mixing it up
in the box for half of those games.
</p></td></tr></tbody></table>

nycsportzfan
01-31-2011, 01:36 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...

Redeyejedi
01-31-2011, 01:45 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speed

Redeyejedi
01-31-2011, 01:48 PM
i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
its possible, i think alot depends on the combine. still have guys like Bruce Carter that are complete unknowns where they get drafted.i think my boy bruce is gonna rip it up. just hope we get him in the 2nd over foster.


I didn't think Carter would be healthy enough to do anything at the combine (which was supposed to be what catapulted him into the 1st round).

I still think the Giants should trade back, grab BPA in the late twenties (I'd like either Carimi or LeShoure) and then grab 2 linebackers and a corner in rounds 2-3.

i thought he was gonna be able to compete in the prodays, just read an article that said otherwise. if the eagle get him or quan i will flip. that'll be 2 years in a row they take a lb'r i highly covet(jamar chaney). its unfair to say he will loose a step. some players can come back and look like it never happened. some actually work themselves into BETTER shape (rare), and then some loose it. have to wait and see but id definately roll the dice and i agree 100% on the trade back scenario.
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The Eagles have drafted my favorite collegeplayers a lot lately Nate Allen and Lesean Mccoy were 2 of my favorite players.</P>

slipknottin
01-31-2011, 01:50 PM
Whatta you guys think of Greg Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwgT6dtWpo) from Mich St??*

hes undersized and slow. Giants draft triangle guys, height weight speed.

Kase-1
01-31-2011, 02:03 PM
Whatta you guys think of Greg Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwgT6dtWpo) from Mich St??

hes undersized and slow. Giants draft triangle guys, height weight speed.When it comes to LB's it seems like we dont like ANYONE, LOL

But seriously, I think this would be a nice and easy transition to SAM or MIKE considering he's played his college career in a 4-3 at the SAM and MIKE spots, rather than doing a 3-4 switch and seeing another useless Sintim type of LB coming up in our system and getting lost in the mix.

And its funny how undersided and slow has been used to describe some of the best LB prospects coming out these last few years, LOL

slipknottin
01-31-2011, 02:12 PM
But seriously, I think this would be a nice and easy transition to SAM or MIKE considering he's played his college career in a 4-3 at the SAM and MIKE spots, rather than doing a 3-4 switch and seeing another useless Sintim type of LB coming up in our system and getting lost in the mix.
Most linebackers in this draft class played in a 4-3 system. Only a couple (von miller) played in a 3-4.


And its funny how undersided and slow has been used to describe some of the best LB prospects coming out these last few years, LOL


Like who?

Kase-1
01-31-2011, 02:22 PM
Like who?
Off the top of my head id say Lauranitis, Maualuga, Spikes. All were top prospects, but all labeled 'slow', and maybe they're combine slow but so are many draft picks that have the mysterious 'football speed'

slipknottin
01-31-2011, 02:28 PM
None of them are undersized though.

Raptor22
01-31-2011, 02:34 PM
while we're at it, any thoughts on an O-lineman brought up by BBV; Ben Ijalana?
http://www.bigblueview.com/2011/1/31/1963706/2011-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-ben-ijalana-ot-villanova#storyjump

reports wise, it sounds like he compares well with Carimi.

Personally, I think he could make a good understudy for Kareem McKenzie (yeah, yeah, I know there's no such person as Will Beatty, and the Giants desperately need a left tackle). Right now, I'd love to see them trade back to the late 20's, pick up LeShoure, Ijalana, best 2 linebackers available (that fit Fewel's scheme), and Kirkpatrick in the first 4 rounds.

I'd love to see them grab Davon House, but I think I'd rather Reese stand pat at corner, and grab Cliff Harris next year (provided he comes out). He's a quick play maker in the secondary, and a fantastic return guy (I think he averaged somewhere around 20 yards on punt returns this year?).
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thegreatone
01-31-2011, 03:23 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.

nycsportzfan
01-31-2011, 04:00 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

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nycsportzfan
01-31-2011, 04:25 PM
Some interesting tweets from scouts/media during sr bowl week on Bilal Powell, all being incredibly positive... This kids got the goods.....

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Bilal Powell has very likely made himself a decent amount of money
this week during practice for Saturday's Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala.</p>


The Face has been listed as a "breakout performer (http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/27/senior-bowl-day-3-risers-fallers-and-steady-as-they-go/)"
by nearly every scout and media member attending practice, and received
some serious praise from the folks on the NFL Network Thursday night.
He capped the work week (which is far more important than the game
itself) by being named the South Team's starting running back for
tomorrow's game.</p>


He also took part in a very good Q&amp;A with the New York Times (http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/28/q-and-a-with-louisvilles-bilal-powell/?partner=rss&amp;emc=rss).</p>
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MW: Your run against Cincinnati was insane…</p>


BP: (A big smile comes across his face as he begins to laugh) Yeah…</p>


MW: …I was watching it last week, and I told a colleague of
mine that, thus far, it was the best run I’ve seen all year in college
football. It was up there with Marshawn Lynch’s playoff run against the
Saints.</p>


BP: Thank you.</p>


MW: When head coach Charlie Strong took the Lousiville job,
he remembered you from his days recruiting players for the University
of Florida. It was Strong who decided to make you the featured
offensive player this year. However, it was former coach Steve
Kragthorpe who recruited you, and you didn’t have as significant a role
in the offense during his tenure. Can you tell me the factors behind
your emergence as a senior?</p>


BP: The No.1 thing was that Coach Strong taught us to compete
with relentless effort. The things that he had us do in the off-season
really prepared us for situations that came up in the season. It was
just a blessing for him to come in and do the things that he had done
for us as a team. We worked really hard in the off-season and it was
just something we had missed for the past three years. He instilled in
us that hard work is relentless effort and you could see the success
throughout the season.</p>
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Powell has received significant praise this week for his physical
running style, his pass blocking and his pass-catching ability out of
the backfield. The one thing he's been criticized for is the free and
loose way he carries the ball.</p>


Other than that, the talk has been almost universally positive.</p>


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Time is the ultimate test, but as of right now I would have to say
that Bilal Powell is my favorite Louisville football player of all-time.</p>

Neverend
01-31-2011, 04:25 PM
"also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field"</P>


I agree with everything you said but this. In my opinion he is very explosive and powerful going through the hole but he does it too fast. he doesn't seem like hewants to bother to wait for his blocks to set up and THEN explode through the hole. He reminds me of brandon jacobs but smaller. Similar to jacobs he is very good at pushing through people. A very talented back but he needs to learn how to be slightly more patient, good things will happen you will miss less holes. But I do agree, he is very talented and should get drafted in the first 3 rounds</P>

Neverend
01-31-2011, 04:31 PM
<SPAN class=tweet-user-name> </SPAN>Derrick Locke having better day today, but best South RB is Bilal Powell. He looks awkward, runs upright, but runs hard, gets to hole quick.</P>


That soundsalmost exactly like brandon jacobs. powell needs to lower his pads when he's running or he's not going to have a very long nfl career</P>