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thegreatone
01-31-2011, 05:06 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

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i like his power, i like his speed, i dont like his vision. i didnt say every rb hits the whole hard i said ANY rb CAN hit the hole hard, not that difficult (cept for BJ sometimes).i didnt see the finesse just power and it wasnt too impressive. You watched a lot of louisville i saw 0 games from them so i cant say definitely he is not a good hb. just from what i saw in the game and the week i wasnt impressed.

thegreatone
01-31-2011, 05:15 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

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highlights showed he is FAST. does have some moves, still question his vision. only one run showed vision and it was the memphis one (albeit impressive). the rest he was hitting the holes (nice holes by the way) hard with little opposition. wish people posted more online in regards to videos. we should start a website called "armchair GM"(TM) and get people to upload vids.

Neverend
01-31-2011, 05:39 PM
Just watched a video of mason foster. He talked about how hard he is going to work this offseason and talked about how he wants to improve playing with a lower pad level against blockers and adding more pass rushing moves. He also talks about how he watches film of nfl linebackers like chad greenway and ray lewis. I came away floored, this guy looks like he has great intangibles</P>


Mason foster is starting to grow on me, a lot.</P>

Redeyejedi
01-31-2011, 06:27 PM
Just watched a video of mason foster. He talked about how hard he is going to work this offseason and talked about how he wants to improve playing with a lower pad level against blockers and adding more pass rushing moves. He also talks about how he watches film of nfl linebackers like chad greenway and ray lewis. I came away floored, this guy looks like he has great intangibles</P>


Mason foster is starting to grow on me, a lot.</P>U JustMade the 1000th post on this thread

Neverend
01-31-2011, 06:33 PM
Just watched a video of mason foster. He talked about how hard he is going to work this offseason and talked about how he wants to improve playing with a lower pad level against blockers and adding more pass rushing moves. He also talks about how he watches film of nfl linebackers like chad greenway and ray lewis. I came away floored, this guy looks like he has great intangibles</P>


Mason foster is starting to grow on me, a lot.</P>


U JustMade the 1000th post on this thread</P>


no, you did lol</P>

nycsportzfan
01-31-2011, 06:49 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

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highlights showed he is FAST. does have some moves, still question his vision. only one run showed vision and it was the memphis one (albeit impressive). the rest he was hitting the holes (nice holes by the way) hard with little opposition. wish people posted more online in regards to videos. we should start a website called "armchair GM"(TM) and get people to upload vids.
how about the run against Cincy? Where he had 3guys on em, and he drove em back untill he spun off em, and was almost in 4th gear instantly and went 85yrds for a td? That was making his own hole, there...lol Those highlights were mainly to show u that play, the others were good, at showing his speed, and that run against memphis, displayed incredible vision, but overall, it was for that crazy run against cincy, that displays his strength and speed combonation.. He also changes direction well, can be a workhorse back, if the team needs that, hes a heck of a back.. I just don't see, where u get, hes got no vision.. Just from watching the Sr Bowl? But, i guess, if so many had to wait untill the SR BOWL to love em, u are entitled to not like em after only the sr bowl, but i just don't get how u don't, when it was clear, he did good all wk long, and that was on top of a amazing season... I guess, we'll definetly have to agree to disagree on him, becasue i again, think hes the best Back outside the top of the heap, hands down...

nycsportzfan
01-31-2011, 06:57 PM
<span class="tweet-user-name"> </span>Derrick Locke having better day today, but best South RB is Bilal Powell. He looks awkward, runs upright, but runs hard, gets to hole quick.</p>


That soundsalmost exactly like brandon jacobs. powell needs to lower his pads when he's running or he's not going to have a very long nfl career</p> ya, but i seen em a million times in game action, and i didn't notice any crazy consistent high running style, nothing like the 6ft 4inch brandon jacobs, thats for sure...Either way, hes working with alot, and has a great running style for the nfl, a league that gets further and further away from good tackling, as your not bringing him down, unless you wrap up and make technically sound tackles, or hes just gonna spin off ya or bounce off ya, everytime, hes a very determined runner, with good charachter.. Hes also got nice think legs, not to skinny twigs...

Neverend
01-31-2011, 07:46 PM
<SPAN class=tweet-user-name> </SPAN>Derrick Locke having better day today, but best South RB is Bilal Powell. He looks awkward, runs upright, but runs hard, gets to hole quick.</P>


That soundsalmost exactly like brandon jacobs. powell needs to lower his pads when he's running or he's not going to have a very long nfl career</P>


ya, but i seen em a million times in game action, and i didn't notice any crazy consistent high running style, nothing like the 6ft 4inch brandon jacobs, thats for sure...Either way, hes working with alot, and has a great running style for the nfl, a league that gets further and further away from good tackling, as your not bringing him down, unless you wrap up and make technically sound tackles, or hes just gonna spin off ya or bounce off ya, everytime, hes a very determined runner, with good charachter.. Hes also got nice think legs, not to skinny twigs...
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Yeah his balance is similar to mark ingrams as far as defenders being forced to tackle him picture perfect or he's going to bounce off of you but that's not my point here -- i'm fully acknowleding his talents. </P>


he is just too impatient for many teams to like him. He doesn't seem like he's going to be a good one-cut runner in the nfl because of his impatience at times. On a lot of zone runs (which is practically called half the time by most offenses in the nfl) due to his impatience and inability to let his blockers set up the play, he may miss some open holes in the nfl and potential big plays. And those zone offenses that make a pedigree on one-cut halfbacks are probably not going to draft him or they mayuse him as a short yardage back only. Anyway that's his main flaw in my opinion that he'll need to work on. It's a bad habit that may take some hard coaching, practice, and effort to get rid off but its ultimately correctable. Plus i wouldnt only use his big runs as examples, the other runs count too. All of the great backs in the league are very patient, espsecially chris johnson.</P>

thegreatone
01-31-2011, 08:12 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

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highlights showed he is FAST. does have some moves, still question his vision. only one run showed vision and it was the memphis one (albeit impressive). the rest he was hitting the holes (nice holes by the way) hard with little opposition. wish people posted more online in regards to videos. we should start a website called "armchair GM"(TM) and get people to upload vids.
how about the run against Cincy? Where he had 3guys on em, and he drove em back untill he spun off em, and was almost in 4th gear instantly and went 85yrds for a td? That was making his own hole, there...lol Those highlights were mainly to show u that play, the others were good, at showing his speed, and that run against memphis, displayed incredible vision, but overall, it was for that crazy run against cincy, that displays his strength and speed combonation.. He also changes direction well, can be a workhorse back, if the team needs that, hes a heck of a back.. I just don't see, where u get, hes got no vision.. Just from watching the Sr Bowl? But, i guess, if so many had to wait untill the SR BOWL to love em, u are entitled to not like em after only the sr bowl, but i just don't get how u don't, when it was clear, he did good all wk long, and that was on top of a amazing season... I guess, we'll definetly have to agree to disagree on him, becasue i again, think hes the best Back outside the top of the heap, hands down...

that was sick as well but has nothing to do with vision. there was one run in particular(SB game) and i cant really remember the specifics but he showed HORRIBLE vision. basically ran right into the guy which was kinda outta his way. like i said i havent been impressed (although that highlight real DID impress) buti havent seen that much of him either. i looked out for him every practice and noticed him once. even my sleeper locke didnt stand out as much as i thought so idk. truthfully i wasnt impressed with any RB SB week except for hunter in the pass drills. i will be watching ;) plus if you love the guy i gotta give him some leeway :P if you can find some more highlight reels that would be awesome. i have looked but they are mostly one run. id like to see more runs like the memphis ones. slip posted a Montague of taiwan jones runs and he had several like that. starting to like that kid.

nycsportzfan
01-31-2011, 08:23 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

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highlights showed he is FAST. does have some moves, still question his vision. only one run showed vision and it was the memphis one (albeit impressive). the rest he was hitting the holes (nice holes by the way) hard with little opposition. wish people posted more online in regards to videos. we should start a website called "armchair GM"(TM) and get people to upload vids.
how about the run against Cincy? Where he had 3guys on em, and he drove em back untill he spun off em, and was almost in 4th gear instantly and went 85yrds for a td? That was making his own hole, there...lol Those highlights were mainly to show u that play, the others were good, at showing his speed, and that run against memphis, displayed incredible vision, but overall, it was for that crazy run against cincy, that displays his strength and speed combonation.. He also changes direction well, can be a workhorse back, if the team needs that, hes a heck of a back.. I just don't see, where u get, hes got no vision.. Just from watching the Sr Bowl? But, i guess, if so many had to wait untill the SR BOWL to love em, u are entitled to not like em after only the sr bowl, but i just don't get how u don't, when it was clear, he did good all wk long, and that was on top of a amazing season... I guess, we'll definetly have to agree to disagree on him, becasue i again, think hes the best Back outside the top of the heap, hands down...

that was sick as well but has nothing to do with vision. there was one run in particular(SB game) and i cant really remember the specifics but he showed HORRIBLE vision. basically ran right into the guy which was kinda outta his way. like i said i havent been impressed (although that highlight real DID impress) buti havent seen that much of him either. i looked out for him every practice and noticed him once. even my sleeper locke didnt stand out as much as i thought so idk. truthfully i wasnt impressed with any RB SB week except for hunter in the pass drills. i will be watching ;) plus if you love the guy i gotta give him some leeway :P if you can find some more highlight reels that would be awesome. i have looked but they are mostly one run. id like to see more runs like the memphis ones. slip posted a Montague of taiwan jones runs and he had several like that. starting to like that kid.
wow, locke showed incredible burst, and i believe helped his stock as well... U gotta understand, guys are gonna run into a guy and make a play now and again, that is bad, like running into a guy that is un called for or something , thats just the way it is... I've seen him a ton, and he really dosen't have a weakness per say, all though neverend brought up him sometiems not waiting for his blocks, and just trying to explode before the play gets going, and i have noticed that from time to time with him during the 4or so games i've seen this season with him... He pretty much had to deal with 8in the box often, as he was the louisville offense, and as he went good, opened things up for Cameron Graham and bellamy and chichester do some damage.... He was a one man wrecking crew in most games he played... My fave game i seen was against Cincy and his game against S.Florida, even though they lost the S.Fla game, because he litteraly was the louisville offense in that game, every TD and pass was set up off him being the workhorse carrying them downfield and the defense needing extra guys in the box to try and contain him...

thegreatone
01-31-2011, 10:42 PM
I've been saying this for awhile now... Seems like the perfect 4/3 SLB, and especially for us, because it would give us a LB that is very active and not one dimensional.... my question with foster is where does he go in the draft, is he a 2nd round pick? is he a late 3rd rounder? i think hes a 2nd rder, because as it turns out, the LB crop isn't what we thought it was gonna be coming into this season... So, i think people will jump on the top guys at the positon alittle earlier, putting Foster in RD 2...
I think as long as he doesnt completly bomb out at the combine he will be taken in the 2nd round agreed...

What do u think of Bilal Powell after the Sr Bowl? U know, i think he was one of the best backs that didn't get the publicity, and i had him as a sleeper back, that was gonna move up as the draft became alittle closer, and i think he started that, by looking solid all wk long in practice and then, looking strong and fast in the game... I think hes in the 3rd-4th range now, and hes still got the combine...
Have to say I liked what I saw. He hit the hole hard and flashed some speedany rb can hit the hole hard it what you do when you get to that 2nd level that determines what kind of back you are and he showed some very poor vision on some of those runs. wasnt impressed with him.
u weren't impressed with him? He had a great week, and 50yrds on only 10carries is pretty solid, against some of the best players in the country... Not to mention, hes not only strong, but a gamebreaker, who can smash a dude for a 2yrd gain and push em back for a 1st down, or breat it for 80yrds which he did twice this yr and 70plus yrds 3times this yr.. Hes not a huge weapon in the pass game, but certainly adequete, and also gets chunks of yrds in his pass catching opps... The consensus is that he looked great all wk long, and really helped his stock, which isnt anything, compared to the remarkable season he put together... This guys easily one of the best RB's in this draft, that no ones been talking about, and will go before the 4th rd is over, if not before the 4th rd.... Not every rb hits the whole hard, thats the problem with a ton of RB's, hence the whole tip toe at the line chit chat on so many backs... Powell has a nice blend of power and finesse, and speed and i coudlen't dissagree more about his vision.. Then again, i watched a ton of louisville this yr, from betting games, and i seen him do things, i wonder if any back could do.. He had the best run i seen this season against Cincy, and i knew i could find it, check it out about halfway through... also, his vision is extrodianry, he knows exactly where the defenders are gonna be and anticipates when in the open field, and as shown against KU, can simply out run DB's when in the open field, or just explode through them.. Hes got alot going for him..

<table class="ts"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 7px 8px 0pt 0pt;" valign="top"><div style="margin-top: -23px; margin-right: 4px; text-align: right;">http://www.google.com/images/icons/sectionized_ui/play_c.gif</div> (http://www.google.com/url?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlKERqz7G3UU&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=tyFHTdrlGND1 gAfV-5iSAg&amp;ved=0CBQQuAIwAA&amp;q=Bilal+Powell+Highlights&amp;us g=AFQjCNGSYYmdp7YXzijYLalNbQFQTN8yHQ&amp;cad=rja)</td><td style="padding: 5px 10px 0pt 0pt;" valign="top">Bilal Powell midseason highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKERqz7G3UU)<button class="vspib"></button>sacore:green.gif (http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/youtube.com?premium=false&amp;client_uid=156643290&amp;cli ent_ver=3.1.0.175&amp;client_type=IEPlugin&amp;suite=true&amp; aff_id=440-8&amp;locale=en_us&amp;os_ver=6.1.0.0&amp;ref=safesearch)<span></span></td></tr></tbody></table>

highlights showed he is FAST. does have some moves, still question his vision. only one run showed vision and it was the memphis one (albeit impressive). the rest he was hitting the holes (nice holes by the way) hard with little opposition. wish people posted more online in regards to videos. we should start a website called "armchair GM"(TM) and get people to upload vids.
how about the run against Cincy? Where he had 3guys on em, and he drove em back untill he spun off em, and was almost in 4th gear instantly and went 85yrds for a td? That was making his own hole, there...lol Those highlights were mainly to show u that play, the others were good, at showing his speed, and that run against memphis, displayed incredible vision, but overall, it was for that crazy run against cincy, that displays his strength and speed combonation.. He also changes direction well, can be a workhorse back, if the team needs that, hes a heck of a back.. I just don't see, where u get, hes got no vision.. Just from watching the Sr Bowl? But, i guess, if so many had to wait untill the SR BOWL to love em, u are entitled to not like em after only the sr bowl, but i just don't get how u don't, when it was clear, he did good all wk long, and that was on top of a amazing season... I guess, we'll definetly have to agree to disagree on him, becasue i again, think hes the best Back outside the top of the heap, hands down...

that was sick as well but has nothing to do with vision. there was one run in particular(SB game) and i cant really remember the specifics but he showed HORRIBLE vision. basically ran right into the guy which was kinda outta his way. like i said i havent been impressed (although that highlight real DID impress) buti havent seen that much of him either. i looked out for him every practice and noticed him once. even my sleeper locke didnt stand out as much as i thought so idk. truthfully i wasnt impressed with any RB SB week except for hunter in the pass drills. i will be watching ;) plus if you love the guy i gotta give him some leeway :P if you can find some more highlight reels that would be awesome. i have looked but they are mostly one run. id like to see more runs like the memphis ones. slip posted a Montague of taiwan jones runs and he had several like that. starting to like that kid.
wow, locke showed incredible burst, and i believe helped his stock as well... U gotta understand, guys are gonna run into a guy and make a play now and again, that is bad, like running into a guy that is un called for or something , thats just the way it is... I've seen him a ton, and he really dosen't have a weakness per say, all though neverend brought up him sometiems not waiting for his blocks, and just trying to explode before the play gets going, and i have noticed that from time to time with him during the 4or so games i've seen this season with him... He pretty much had to deal with 8in the box often, as he was the louisville offense, and as he went good, opened things up for Cameron Graham and bellamy and chichester do some damage.... He was a one man wrecking crew in most games he played... My fave game i seen was against Cincy and his game against S.Florida, even though they lost the S.Fla game, because he litteraly was the louisville offense in that game, every TD and pass was set up off him being the workhorse carrying them downfield and the defense needing extra guys in the box to try and contain him...
oh i agree he just didnt perform as well as i was hoping or expected but not bad by a long shot. . ill be keeping my ear to the floor for powell, trust me. we all want that speedster.

Redeyejedi
02-02-2011, 09:21 AM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html</P>


This is a pretty good site. Its rankings are a little different but theres a lot of write ups, blogs, and podcasts.</P>

slipknottin
02-02-2011, 12:11 PM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html</P>


This is a pretty good site. Its rankings are a little different but theres a lot of write ups*, blogs, and podcasts.</P>

theres some real strange stuff on there. Scott Lutrus more highly ranked than Greg Jones? Oh really? lol

Kase-1
02-02-2011, 03:08 PM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html</p>


This is a pretty good site. Its rankings are a little different but theres a lot of write ups, blogs, and podcasts.</p>

theres some real strange stuff on there. Scott Lutrus more highly ranked than Greg Jones? Oh really? loldraftcountdown.com (http://www.draftcountdown.com) and.cbssports.com/nfl/draft (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft) are 2 good ones, but draftcountdown doesnt really get into gear til it gets a lil closer to the draft

Redeyejedi
02-02-2011, 03:22 PM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html</P>


This is a pretty good site. Its rankings are a little different but theres a lot of write ups, blogs, and podcasts.</P> theres some real strange stuff on there. Scott Lutrus more highly ranked than Greg Jones? Oh really? lolYeah I was talking more about the write ups from the practices and the player podcasts.I saw some ofthe rankings and Inoticed they were a little different.

Redeyejedi
02-03-2011, 07:32 AM
Weslye Saunders has been ruled ineligible for the draft. and has been removed from the combine. U would think I guy that had improper contact with an agent a year before everyone else would have people that would know to file paperwork properly.</P>


</P>


<FONT size=5>According to sources, Saunders and his representativesdidn't petition the NFL to be included in the draft eligible listto begiven special eligibility</FONT>. </P>


</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Weslye-Saunders-ineligible-for-draft-scouting-combine.html</P>

thegreatone
02-03-2011, 08:37 AM
Weslye Saunders has been ruled ineligible for the draft. and has been removed from the combine. U would think I guy that had improper contact with an agent a year before everyone else would have people that would know to file paperwork properly.</p>


</p>


<font size="5">According to sources, Saunders and his representativesdidn't petition the NFL to be included in the draft eligible listto begiven special eligibility</font>. </p>


</p>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Weslye-Saunders-ineligible-for-draft-scouting-combine.html</p>
idiot

Redeyejedi
02-03-2011, 08:53 AM
Weslye Saunders has been ruled ineligible for the draft. and has been removed from the combine. U would think I guy that had improper contact with an agent a year before everyone else would have people that would know to file paperwork properly.</P>


</P>


<FONT size=5>According to sources, Saunders and his representativesdidn't petition the NFL to be included in the draft eligible listto begiven special eligibility</FONT>. </P>


</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Weslye-Saunders-ineligible-for-draft-scouting-combine.html</P>



idiot
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Seriously its more on his people though. How the hell do they not get that done. The one thing is at least he will get to chose which team he wants to play for as an UDFA. Depending what they do on a rookie wage scale he might of lost some money.</P>

Raptor22
02-03-2011, 09:58 AM
Weslye Saunders has been ruled ineligible for the draft. and has been removed from the combine. U would think I guy that had improper contact with an agent a year before everyone else would have people that would know to file paperwork properly.</p>


</p>


<font size="5">According to sources, Saunders and his representativesdidn't petition the NFL to be included in the draft eligible listto begiven special eligibility</font>. </p>


</p>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Weslye-Saunders-ineligible-for-draft-scouting-combine.html</p>



idiot
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Seriously its more on his people though. How the hell do they not get that done. The one thing is at least he will get to chose which team he wants to play for as an UDFA. Depending what they do on a rookie wage scale he might of lost some money.</p>

If he can work out some of his character concerns, this could work out for the G-men... I remember an article from last year that they wind up with roughly twice as many undrafted rookies in their rookie mini-camps as any other team because they (the undrafted rookies) know that they'll get the best shot to make the team and play with The Giants. Also, they've taken shots on guys with character concerns before... just look at Bradshaw.

slipknottin
02-03-2011, 10:43 AM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.

Redeyejedi
02-03-2011, 10:56 AM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.LOL man that sux how does that happen. Whoever his people are they should be fired

thegreatone
02-03-2011, 11:19 AM
Weslye Saunders has been ruled ineligible for the draft. and has been removed from the combine. U would think I guy that had improper contact with an agent a year before everyone else would have people that would know to file paperwork properly.</p>


</p>


<font size="5">According to sources, Saunders and his representativesdidn't petition the NFL to be included in the draft eligible listto begiven special eligibility</font>. </p>


</p>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Weslye-Saunders-ineligible-for-draft-scouting-combine.html</p>



idiot
</p>


Seriously its more on his people though. How the hell do they not get that done. The one thing is at least he will get to chose which team he wants to play for as an UDFA. Depending what they do on a rookie wage scale he might of lost some money.</p>it is but when your lively hood is at stake you should be checking to make sure they are getting things done. enough idiocy to go around i guess.

nycsportzfan
02-03-2011, 12:27 PM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.LOL man that sux how does that happen. Whoever his people are they should be fired the way its seeming weslye saunders rolls, they'll probably get raises...lol

Redeyejedi
02-03-2011, 01:52 PM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.LOL man that sux how does that happen. Whoever his people are they should be fired the way its seeming weslye saunders rolls, they'll probably get raises...lol
Got to find out if he can even sign as an UDFA. Slip thinks he has to go through the Supplemental draft. How do U screw something like that up. He hasnt played all year U would think they could of filled out a piece of paper in that time. This guy has Red Flags all over him.If u can get him as an UDFA though thats a steal because your risking nothing and he does have talent.</P>


Its still amazing that all he had to do was fill out a piece of paper and show up at the combine and he would get to sign a contract worth a couple million dollars and he couldnt do it. LOL WTF</P>

nycsportzfan
02-03-2011, 02:06 PM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.LOL man that sux how does that happen. Whoever his people are they should be fired the way its seeming weslye saunders rolls, they'll probably get raises...lol
Got to find out if he can even sign as an UDFA. Slip thinks he has to go through the Supplemental draft. How do U screw something like that up. He hasnt played all year U would think they could of filled out a piece of paper in that time. This guy has Red Flags all over him.If u can get him as an UDFA though thats a steal because your risking nothing and he does have talent.</p>


Its still amazing that all he had to do was fill out a piece of paper and show up at the combine and he would get to sign a contract worth a couple million dollars and he couldnt do it. LOL WTF</p> shoot, for a possible couple mill, i'd of wrote a book in that time... lol What a tool...

I think were in for another draft filled with alot of surprises.. There is so many guys i've seen going at diffrent spots, in diffrent mocks, its not even funny.. Guys like Stefen Wisnewski, who could go end of RD 1, or RD 3.. How about guys like Bruce Carter, and Mark Herzlich, and Drake Nevis... I've seen Nevis going last 2picks of RD 1, and toward the end of RD 3... The WR crop could go at any time, with guys like Torrey Smith and Titus Young flip flopping depending on where u look, and then u got Mikel Leshoure and Mark Ingram being top 2 RB's, but after that, u got diffrent takes on guys like Demarco Murray, Daniel Thomas, Jordan Todman, Ryan Williams and Kendall Hunter, any can go before or after each other and who knows what round, and my sleeper Bilal POwell seems to be in the mix now as well...

Then don't get me started on the OT's... With guys like Demarcus Love, who could go at the end of RD 1, or he could go in RD 3, and how about Benjamin Ijalana? That guy is about as widespread as far as where the heck he could go... Don't be surprised if he goes in RD 1, or RD 3... We got another Fun Filled, crazy draft on our hands, and the closer it gets, the crazier it gets...

Raptor22
02-03-2011, 03:23 PM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.LOL man that sux how does that happen. Whoever his people are they should be fired the way its seeming weslye saunders rolls, they'll probably get raises...lol
Got to find out if he can even sign as an UDFA. Slip thinks he has to go through the Supplemental draft. How do U screw something like that up. He hasnt played all year U would think they could of filled out a piece of paper in that time. This guy has Red Flags all over him.If u can get him as an UDFA though thats a steal because your risking nothing and he does have talent.</p>


Its still amazing that all he had to do was fill out a piece of paper and show up at the combine and he would get to sign a contract worth a couple million dollars and he couldnt do it. LOL WTF</p> shoot, for a possible couple mill, i'd of wrote a book in that time... lol What a tool...

I think were in for another draft filled with alot of surprises.. There is so many guys i've seen going at diffrent spots, in diffrent mocks, its not even funny.. Guys like Stefen Wisnewski, who could go end of RD 1, or RD 3.. How about guys like Bruce Carter, and Mark Herzlich, and Drake Nevis... I've seen Nevis going last 2picks of RD 1, and toward the end of RD 3... The WR crop could go at any time, with guys like Torrey Smith and Titus Young flip flopping depending on where u look, and then u got Mikel Leshoure and Mark Ingram being top 2 RB's, but after that, u got diffrent takes on guys like Demarco Murray, Daniel Thomas, Jordan Todman, Ryan Williams and Kendall Hunter, any can go before or after each other and who knows what round, and my sleeper Bilal POwell seems to be in the mix now as well...

Then don't get me started on the OT's... With guys like Demarcus Love, who could go at the end of RD 1, or he could go in RD 3, and how about Benjamin Ijalana? That guy is about as widespread as far as where the heck he could go... Don't be surprised if he goes in RD 1, or RD 3... We got another Fun Filled, crazy draft on our hands, and the closer it gets, the crazier it gets...


Agreed... this is going to be fun. I'm actually REALLY liking what I've heard about Ijalana. He was an unknown a week ago, and now he's everywhere... I think Mayock has him as his no.4 OT

nycsportzfan
02-04-2011, 10:01 PM
hes not eligible as an undrafted free agent either, i dont believe. I think the next time he can enter the nfl is as a supplemental draft pick.LOL man that sux how does that happen. Whoever his people are they should be fired the way its seeming weslye saunders rolls, they'll probably get raises...lol
Got to find out if he can even sign as an UDFA. Slip thinks he has to go through the Supplemental draft. How do U screw something like that up. He hasnt played all year U would think they could of filled out a piece of paper in that time. This guy has Red Flags all over him.If u can get him as an UDFA though thats a steal because your risking nothing and he does have talent.</p>


Its still amazing that all he had to do was fill out a piece of paper and show up at the combine and he would get to sign a contract worth a couple million dollars and he couldnt do it. LOL WTF</p> shoot, for a possible couple mill, i'd of wrote a book in that time... lol What a tool...

I think were in for another draft filled with alot of surprises.. There is so many guys i've seen going at diffrent spots, in diffrent mocks, its not even funny.. Guys like Stefen Wisnewski, who could go end of RD 1, or RD 3.. How about guys like Bruce Carter, and Mark Herzlich, and Drake Nevis... I've seen Nevis going last 2picks of RD 1, and toward the end of RD 3... The WR crop could go at any time, with guys like Torrey Smith and Titus Young flip flopping depending on where u look, and then u got Mikel Leshoure and Mark Ingram being top 2 RB's, but after that, u got diffrent takes on guys like Demarco Murray, Daniel Thomas, Jordan Todman, Ryan Williams and Kendall Hunter, any can go before or after each other and who knows what round, and my sleeper Bilal POwell seems to be in the mix now as well...

Then don't get me started on the OT's... With guys like Demarcus Love, who could go at the end of RD 1, or he could go in RD 3, and how about Benjamin Ijalana? That guy is about as widespread as far as where the heck he could go... Don't be surprised if he goes in RD 1, or RD 3... We got another Fun Filled, crazy draft on our hands, and the closer it gets, the crazier it gets...


Agreed... this is going to be fun. I'm actually REALLY liking what I've heard about Ijalana. He was an unknown a week ago, and now he's everywhere... I think Mayock has him as his no.4 OT
not a unknown, hes had rd 2status for most of the season, to be honest, but hes moving up quite fast, to 1st rd Consideration lately... We've had discussions on him for awhile now...

Redeyejedi
02-05-2011, 07:39 AM
I dont know if some of U guys know this but the SEC Digital Network has full games archived for those who want to go back and scout some of the SEC players. Im rewatching Arkansas vs LSU right now. Im really going back to focus on some of these lineman. Also looking at 2012 guys so I have some stuff to write about to keep the thread alive in the offseason. U know Kniles Davis is a really good RB</P>


Here is a few</P>


SEC Championship</P>


Auburn vs SC</P>


http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/SECVIDEO/TabId/468/VideoId/10417/12042010-Auburn-Vs-South-Carolina-Full-Game.aspx</P>


LSU vs Arkansas</P>


http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/SECVIDEO/TabId/468/VideoId/9771/LSU-Vs-Arkansas-Nov-27-2010-Full-Game.aspx</P>


Alabama vs Florida</P>


http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/SECVIDEO/TabId/468/VideoId/8368/Florida-Vs-Alabama-Oct-22010-Full-Game.aspx</P>


Auburn vs Ole miss</P>


http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/SECVIDEO/TabId/468/VideoId/9078/Auburn-Vs-Ole-Miss-Oct-30-2010-Full-Game.aspx</P>


Georgia vs Auburn</P>


http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/SECVIDEO/TabId/468/VideoId/9463/Georgia-Vs-Auburn-Nov-13-2010-Full-Game.aspx</P>


SC vs Vanderbilt</P>


http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/SECVIDEO/TabId/468/VideoId/8947/South-Carolina-Vs-Vanderbilt-Oct-23-2010-Full-Game.aspx</P>


I was having trouble accesing the Full games directly from the SEC site but here is a link that got me to the games. There is 19 games here</P>


http://www.clicker.com/web/sec-full-games/</P>


ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.</P>


Here is some links to player video homes</P>


http://www.youtube.com/user/NFLMocksGameFilm#p/u/5/M7szKY04mPc

http://www.youtube.com/user/AloAloysius#p/u

http://www.youtube.com/user/MARI0clp

http://www.youtube.com/user/ProDraftParty#p/u

</P>

Redeyejedi
02-05-2011, 08:57 AM
Im rewatching this Arkansas LSU game and Patrick Peterson missed his assignment ona 85 yard TD pass. He came off his manon ashort pass on 3rd and9 thinking he could snag an interception and Mallet just lofted the ball to his man who took it down the sideline for 85 yards. It didnt help the safety took a horrible angle and missed Koby Hamilton completly but the play was set up because of Peterson cheating for an interception. Mallet completly pulled Peterson in with his eyes great play by Mallet not so good on Patrick Peterson.

Neverend
02-05-2011, 10:54 AM
Im rewatching this Arkansas LSU game and Patrick Peterson missed his assignment ona 85 yard TD pass. He came off his manon ashort pass on 3rd and9 thinking he could snag an interception and Mallet just lofted the ball to his man who took it down the sideline for 85 yards. It didnt help the safety took a horrible angle and missed Koby Hamilton completly but the play was set up because of Peterson cheating for an interception. Mallet completly pulled Peterson in with his eyes great play by Mallet not so good on Patrick Peterson.</P>


yeah, that's seems to be a problem with peterson. sometimes ive seen himplay a little "****y" on the field. trying to look for the big pick 6 or he plays with lazy technique and doens't bother to flip his hips. he gets away with it because he's an amazingathlete but you'd like him to play a little more disciplined. he is still a good techician and has pretty goodinstincts but you wish he'd play with a little more humility. thats not the only double move he's gotten beat by the past 2 years, he's gotten beat by quite a few but the receiver doesn't catch the ball because the timing in college football between QBs and receivers arent very good</P>

Redeyejedi
02-05-2011, 12:25 PM
Im rewatching this Arkansas LSU game and Patrick Peterson missed his assignment ona 85 yard TD pass. He came off his manon ashort pass on 3rd and9 thinking he could snag an interception and Mallet just lofted the ball to his man who took it down the sideline for 85 yards. It didnt help the safety took a horrible angle and missed Koby Hamilton completly but the play was set up because of Peterson cheating for an interception. Mallet completly pulled Peterson in with his eyes great play by Mallet not so good on Patrick Peterson.</P>


yeah, that's seems to be a problem with peterson. sometimes ive seen himplay a little "****y" on the field. trying to look for the big pick 6 or he plays with lazy technique and doens't bother to flip his hips. he gets away with it because he's an amazingathlete but you'd like him to play a little more disciplined. he is still a good techician and has pretty goodinstincts but you wish he'd play with a little more humility. thats not the only double move he's gotten beat by the past 2 years, he's gotten beat by quite a few but the receiver doesn't catch the ball because the timing in college football between QBs and receivers arent very good</P>Im going to go back and rewatch whatever LSU games I kind find.I didnt focus on the Oline play much the first time I watched these games.Theres a lot of good lineman on these SEC replays

Neverend
02-06-2011, 09:49 AM
ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.
</P>


</P>


I completely forgot about that. I have ESPN 3, maybe now I can re-watch some bowl games, particularly Martez Wilson and Illinois hehe:)</P>


but eh, i'm too impatient to skim through a video. i'd rather watch videos of those guys that upload draft players videos on youtube. </P>

Redeyejedi
02-06-2011, 10:51 AM
ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.
</P>


</P>


I completely forgot about that. I have ESPN 3, maybe now I can re-watch some bowl games, particularly Martez Wilson and Illinois hehe:)</P>


but eh, i'm too impatient to skim through a video. i'd rather watch videos of those guys that upload draft players videos on youtube. </P>I posted those links in with the Full game links

Neverend
02-06-2011, 11:49 AM
ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.
</P>


</P>


I completely forgot about that. I have ESPN 3, maybe now I can re-watch some bowl games, particularly Martez Wilson and Illinois hehe:)</P>


but eh, i'm too impatient to skim through a video. i'd rather watch videos of those guys that upload draft players videos on youtube. </P>


I posted those links in with the Full game links</P>


you mean the sec game links? yeah ive known about that site for awhile. ive watched a lot of sec games this year so i dont really need it but its a really good tool for an nfl draft fan, especially since sec videos are illegal on youtube</P>

Redeyejedi
02-06-2011, 01:01 PM
ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.
</P>


</P>


I completely forgot about that. I have ESPN 3, maybe now I can re-watch some bowl games, particularly Martez Wilson and Illinois hehe:)</P>


but eh, i'm too impatient to skim through a video. i'd rather watch videos of those guys that upload draft players videos on youtube. </P>


I posted those links in with the Full game links</P>


you mean the sec game links? yeah ive known about that site for awhile. ive watched a lot of sec games this year so i dont really need it but its a really good tool for an nfl draft fan, especially since sec videos are illegal on youtube</P>No I posted the home links for the Youtube draft videos as well. Im sure you have seen the players videos on Youtube its just the creators page

Redeyejedi
02-06-2011, 02:19 PM
ESPN 3 has games but my service provider isnt on there list so I cant watch.
</P>


</P>


I completely forgot about that. I have ESPN 3, maybe now I can re-watch some bowl games, particularly Martez Wilson and Illinois hehe:)</P>


but eh, i'm too impatient to skim through a video. i'd rather watch videos of those guys that upload draft players videos on youtube. </P>Yeah I would love to re-watch some Illinois games they werent a team I got a real good look at. i only watched 2 full Illini games this season. The others were flip backs with Leshoure being the focus. I tend to watch the SEC and ACC more than the other conferences. They are the Top 2 Conferences in terms of producing NFL talent

Redeyejedi
02-10-2011, 08:45 PM
Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus. Im rewatching the LSU Alabama game and while on the stat sheet this didnt look like a great game he was really disruptive. He flashed a wide variety of skill as a 3 tech and 5 tech. He burst throught the line on the inside on many occasions forcing the ball carrier to the outside into the waiting arms of a linebacker. He blew around the corner as a 5 tech forcing Jordan Jefferson to throw the ball away. He really shows an ability to penetrate and could become a dominate 3 tech. He really has a nice jump off the line on the inside.I think he may be a better fit for a 4-3 defense. He does a really nice job keeping himself low. He has a few pass rush moves as well. People seemed to have quieted on him but this guy can really play

slipknottin
02-10-2011, 08:46 PM
Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus.

Mayok just moved Dareus ahead of Fairley as his #1 DT.

And Dareus doesnt have the motor and attitude concerns that Fariley does.

BlueSanta
02-10-2011, 08:55 PM
Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus.

Mayok just moved Dareus ahead of Fairley as his #1 DT.

And Dareus doesnt have the motor and attitude concerns that Fariley does.

I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.

Redeyejedi
02-10-2011, 09:01 PM
Man the skys the limit for Marcell Dareus. Mayok just moved Dareus ahead of Fairley as his #1 DT. And Dareus doesnt have the motor and attitude concerns that Fariley does.He has new rankings up cool I got to check those out. He appears to be the safer pick. I think he looks better as a 3 tech

Redeyejedi
02-10-2011, 09:05 PM
Here is Mayocks New Top 5</P>


Quarterback: </P>


*1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
2. Jake Locker, Washington
*3. Cam Newton, Auburn
*4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
5. Andy Dalton, TCU
</P>


</P>


</P>


Running back: </P>


*1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
*3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
*4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
*5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State
</P>


Wide receiver: </P>


*1. A.J. Green, Georgia
*2. Julio Jones, Alabama
3. Titus Young, Boise State
*4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
*5. Torrey Smith
</P>


Tight end: </P>


*1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
5. Virgil Green, Nevada
</P>


Guard/center: </P>


1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
3. Clint Boling, Georgia
4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State
</P>


Tackle: </P>


1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
2. Nate Solder, Colorado
*3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State
</P>


</P>


</P>


Defensive end: </P>


*1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
*2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
4. Cameron Jordan, California
*5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina
</P>


Defensive tackle: </P>


*1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
*2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
*3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
*5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California
</P>


Outside Linebacker: </P>


1. Von Miller, Texas A&amp;M
*2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
*3. Justin Houston, Georgia
4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
5. Chris Carter, Fresno State
</P>


Inside Linebacker: </P>


*1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU
</P>


Cornerback: </P>


*1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
2. Prince Amukamara
*3. Aaron Williams, Texas
4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
*5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)</P>


Safety: </P>


*1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
2. Ahmad Black, Florida
3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina</P>

slipknottin
02-10-2011, 09:16 PM
I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.

I think there are 5 elite prospects.

Bowers
Fairley
Dareus
AJ Green
Peterson

And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.

myles2424
02-10-2011, 09:55 PM
I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.

I think there are 5 elite prospects.

Bowers
Fairley
Dareus
AJ Green
Peterson

And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.
Will be interesting to see what we do if either Aldon Smith or Quinn are on the board at 19.....Quinn is a top 5 talent & i think if Aldon Smith stayed in school he couldve easily been a top 5-10 pick in 2012....

thegreatone
02-11-2011, 10:10 AM
surprised to see quinn as his 5th de

nycsportzfan
02-11-2011, 10:31 AM
Here is Mayocks New Top 5</p>


Quarterback: </p>


*1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
2. Jake Locker, Washington
*3. Cam Newton, Auburn
*4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
5. Andy Dalton, TCU
</p>


</p>


</p>


Running back: </p>


*1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
*3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
*4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
*5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State
</p>


Wide receiver: </p>


*1. A.J. Green, Georgia
*2. Julio Jones, Alabama
3. Titus Young, Boise State
*4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
*5. Torrey Smith
</p>


Tight end: </p>


*1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
5. Virgil Green, Nevada
</p>


Guard/center: </p>


1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
3. Clint Boling, Georgia
4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State
</p>


Tackle: </p>


1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
2. Nate Solder, Colorado
*3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State
</p>


</p>


</p>


Defensive end: </p>


*1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
*2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
4. Cameron Jordan, California
*5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina
</p>


Defensive tackle: </p>


*1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
*2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
*3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
*5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California
</p>


Outside Linebacker: </p>


1. Von Miller, Texas A&amp;M
*2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
*3. Justin Houston, Georgia
4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
5. Chris Carter, Fresno State
</p>


Inside Linebacker: </p>


*1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU
</p>


Cornerback: </p>


*1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
2. Prince Amukamara
*3. Aaron Williams, Texas
4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
*5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)</p>


Safety: </p>


*1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
2. Ahmad Black, Florida
3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina</p> wow, Gilchrist at num 3 safety??LoL I don't know about that... I think hes a super sleeper, and i mentioned that awhile ago, and i love his versatility, but to have em over guys like Denuta Williams is crazy! I woulden't even have Gilcrist on my safety list.. I can't believe he dosen't have Joe Lefeged on there over him... Lefeged is a heck of a safety prospect, and is a Safety, not a possible CB, who played safety in the past, or can help safety in a pinch...

I totally don't agree with Jimmy Smith being under Aaron Williams, but i have definetly not been on the brandon Harris train, so that dosen't surprise me there... Theres actually a Ton more guys i totally dissagre with...I don't put mayock on super pedestal like some on here, but i still like em, and i'm surprised at how many things i totally dissagree with this yr(so far).. I am glad hes got Ijalana on his OT list, as i think he'll eventually be a possible LT in the league, but sherrod 5th? No way, hes the best Tackle in this class, in my opinion....

Glad to see Daniel Thomas get some love, i've been on him since the first wk of the yr... I would have Powell at 5 over Jaquizz....

nycsportzfan
02-11-2011, 10:36 AM
I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.

I think there are 5 elite prospects.

Bowers
Fairley
Dareus
AJ Green
Peterson

And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind. I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....

Raptor22
02-11-2011, 10:50 AM
I agree with Mayock. There is not a single player I would want more in this year draft than Dareus.

I think there are 5 elite prospects.

Bowers
Fairley
Dareus
AJ Green
Peterson

And the next group, Von Miller, Aldon Smith, Robert Quinn, and Amukamara is not far behind.

I'm not sure I'd classify Fairley as 'Elite'. He is when he's on, and plays, but he isn't always on, and doesn't always play. That to me is the hallmark of an Elite player: They are ALWAYS on. Suh never took games or plays off, Adrian Peterson doesn't have games where he just doesn't feel like it.

As I look at it, to be a Very Good player, you have to have either tremendous physical gifts or tremendous desire/work ethic. Look at Plax and AP. Plax had rare physical gifts, but very common work eithic, where as Pierce had very common physical abilities, but incredible desire/work ethic.

Elite players have both rare physical abilities, and the work ethic to make full use of them, all the time.

Fairley reminds me a lot of Haynesworth, and that's not entirely a good thing.

slipknottin
02-11-2011, 11:00 AM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....


I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete.

juice33s
02-11-2011, 11:29 AM
Here is Mayocks New Top 5</p>


Quarterback: </p>


*1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
2. Jake Locker, Washington
*3. Cam Newton, Auburn
*4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
5. Andy Dalton, TCU
</p>


</p>


</p>


Running back: </p>


*1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
*3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
*4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
*5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State
</p>


Wide receiver: </p>


*1. A.J. Green, Georgia
*2. Julio Jones, Alabama
3. Titus Young, Boise State
*4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
*5. Torrey Smith
</p>


Tight end: </p>


*1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
5. Virgil Green, Nevada
</p>


Guard/center: </p>


1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
3. Clint Boling, Georgia
4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State
</p>


Tackle: </p>


1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
2. Nate Solder, Colorado
*3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State
</p>


</p>


</p>


Defensive end: </p>


*1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
*2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
4. Cameron Jordan, California
*5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina
</p>


Defensive tackle: </p>


*1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
*2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
*3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
*5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California
</p>


Outside Linebacker: </p>


1. Von Miller, Texas A&amp;M
*2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
*3. Justin Houston, Georgia
4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
5. Chris Carter, Fresno State
</p>


Inside Linebacker: </p>


*1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU
</p>


Cornerback: </p>


*1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
2. Prince Amukamara
*3. Aaron Williams, Texas
4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
*5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)</p>


Safety: </p>


*1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
2. Ahmad Black, Florida
3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina</p> wow, Gilchrist at num 3 safety??LoL I don't know about that... I think hes a super sleeper, and i mentioned that awhile ago, and i love his versatility, but to have em over guys like Denuta Williams is crazy! I woulden't even have Gilcrist on my safety list.. I can't believe he dosen't have Joe Lefeged on there over him... Lefeged is a heck of a safety prospect, and is a Safety, not a possible CB, who played safety in the past, or can help safety in a pinch...

I totally don't agree with Jimmy Smith being under Aaron Williams, but i have definetly not been on the brandon Harris train, so that dosen't surprise me there... Theres actually a Ton more guys i totally dissagre with...I don't put mayock on super pedestal like some on here, but i still like em, and i'm surprised at how many things i totally dissagree with this yr(so far).. I am glad hes got Ijalana on his OT list, as i think he'll eventually be a possible LT in the league, but sherrod 5th? No way, hes the best Tackle in this class, in my opinion....

Glad to see Daniel Thomas get some love, i've been on him since the first wk of the yr... I would have Powell at 5 over Jaquizz....

Agree....Locker over Newton lol

Here are some of his rankings from this time last year
QB
1. Bradford (ended up going 1st)
2. Clausen (48th)
3. McCoy (85th)
4. Tebow (25th)
t5. Levovour (181)
t5. Pike (204)

Safeties
1. Berry (5)
2. Mays (49)
3. Thomas (14)
4 Assante (160)
5. Chad Jones (76)

Defensive Ends
1. JPP (15)
2. Morgan (16)
3. Dunlap (54)
4. Griffin (100)
5. Graham (13)

http://www.nfl.com/seniorbowl/story/09000d5d815ee2f1/article/despite-injury-bradford-tops-list-of-qbs-in-initial-prospect-rankings

slipknottin
02-11-2011, 11:35 AM
juice you must be using the list he had earlier in the year. at the end of the year Mayok had Thomas as his #1 ranked safety.

AT DE he didnt even end up having Dunlap on the top 5.

juice33s
02-11-2011, 11:37 AM
juice you must be using the list he had earlier in the year. at the end of the year Mayok had Thomas as his #1 ranked safety.

AT DE he didnt even end up having Dunlap on the top 5.
maybe right before the draft, but that list was dated January 25th aka this time last year (close enough)

slipknottin
02-11-2011, 11:39 AM
maybe right before the draft, but that list was dated January 25th aka this time last year (close enough)


Yea, obviously the combine can change things.

Redeyejedi
02-11-2011, 12:36 PM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Yeah I find it interesting he isnt on Mayocks Top 5 ends. The other guys are physically more impressive players though

shocknaweny
02-11-2011, 02:47 PM
Here is Mayocks New Top 5</P>


Quarterback: </P>


*1. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri
2. Jake Locker, Washington
*3. Cam Newton, Auburn
*4. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas
5. Andy Dalton, TCU
</P>


</P>


</P>


Running back: </P>


*1. Mark Ingram, Alabama
2. Mikel LeShoure, Illinois
*3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State
*4. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech
*5. Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State
</P>


Wide receiver: </P>


*1. A.J. Green, Georgia
*2. Julio Jones, Alabama
3. Titus Young, Boise State
*4. Jonathan Baldwin, Pittsburgh
*5. Torrey Smith
</P>


Tight end: </P>


*1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame
2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin
3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee
4. D.J.Williams, Arkansas
5. Virgil Green, Nevada
</P>


Guard/center: </P>


1. Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
3. Clint Boling, Georgia
4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State
</P>


Tackle: </P>


1. Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
2. Nate Solder, Colorado
*3. Tyron Smith, Southern California
4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin
T-5. Ben Ijalana, Villanova
T-5. Derek Sherrod, Mississippi State
</P>


</P>


</P>


Defensive end: </P>


*1. Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson
*2. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin
3. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa
4. Cameron Jordan, California
*5. Robert Quinn, North Carolina
</P>


Defensive tackle: </P>


*1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama
*2. Nick Fairley, Auburn
*3. Corey Liuget, Illinois
4. Stephen Paea, Oregon State
*5. Jurrell Casey, Southern California
</P>


Outside Linebacker: </P>


1. Von Miller, Texas A&amp;M
*2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA
*3. Justin Houston, Georgia
4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina
5. Chris Carter, Fresno State
</P>


Inside Linebacker: </P>


*1. Martez Wilson, Illinois
2. Colin McCarthy, Miami (Fla.)
3. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina
4. Casey Matthews, Oregon
5. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU
</P>


Cornerback: </P>


*1. Patrick Peterson, LSU
2. Prince Amukamara
*3. Aaron Williams, Texas
4. Jimmy Smith, Colorado
*5. Brandon Harris, Miami (Fla.)</P>


Safety: </P>


*1. Rahim Moore, UCLA
2. Ahmad Black, Florida
3. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson
4. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma
5. Deunta Williams, North Carolina</P>


</P>


</P>


TY.</P>

nycsportzfan
02-11-2011, 08:11 PM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....


I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Hes got some speed, thats for sure... I think hes gonna be a animal on the next level with his speed, agility, and non stop motor, not to mention, hes above solid against the run... I think he'll be surprising in the in the combine as well...

We shall see, though... I def would have em in the top 5lists of any DE rankings...

Redeyejedi
02-11-2011, 09:35 PM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Hes got some speed, thats for sure... I think hes gonna be a animal on the next level with his speed, agility, and non stop motor, not to mention, hes above solid against the run... I think he'll be surprising in the in the combine as well...

We shall see, though... I def would have em in the top 5lists of any DE rankings...
Eh his speed is average really all his physical attributes are average. I think he should bulk up and play strongside end. I dont see him being as an elite pass rusher at the next level. I think he will be a good all around player though. Give u some of everything. I think he will become a very good run defender give U 8 sacks thats a pretty good football player.

nycsportzfan
02-12-2011, 07:43 AM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Hes got some speed, thats for sure... I think hes gonna be a animal on the next level with his speed, agility, and non stop motor, not to mention, hes above solid against the run... I think he'll be surprising in the in the combine as well...

We shall see, though... I def would have em in the top 5lists of any DE rankings...
Eh his speed is average really all his physical attributes are average. I think he should bulk up and play strongside end. I dont see him being as an elite pass rusher at the next level. I think he will be a good all around player though. Give u some of everything. I think he will become a very good run defender give U 8 sacks thats a pretty good football player. ya, thats pretty good, and probably gonna be better then most of the guys talked about going in the top 10...lol And, thats the truth! Kerrigan is a Safe bet for 8sacks a yr, and 60-70tackles... He also plays nasty, with a all out, attitude... I think you'll be surprised by his speed at the combine... Maybe not super man fast, but pretty fast.. To be honest, i think people don't think of em as fast as he is, because hes white... Now, thats a touchy subject, i know, and i actually understand why some people feel that way, as players of color, for the most part, warp white fellas in athletic ability and speed, most of the time, but Kerrigan is a exception, and he gets to the QB very quickly... Hes pretty explosive, and it isn't all motor, hes built like a OX, very very strong, and i'll be shocked, if he isn't one of the best Pass Rushers to come outta this draft in a few yrs...

Look at this first step, and look at how quick hes on Terrelle Pryor and around the Tackle on the next play.. This actually makes me laugh, watching num 76 for Oh St in the first play..lol

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nycsportzfan
02-12-2011, 07:49 AM
OMG!!!!LOL Watching this video of R.kerrigan(all highlights of course), but jesus, seeing this guy in pursuit and how explosive he is and downright lethal against the run is pretty crazy... THis is one hellavu highlight tape... This guys the complete package...

nycsportzfan
02-12-2011, 07:49 AM
OMG!!!!LOL Watching this video of R.kerrigan(all highlights of course), but jesus, seeing this guy in pursuit and how explosive he is and downright lethal against the run is pretty crazy... THis is one hellavu highlight tape... This guys the complete package...

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Redeyejedi
02-12-2011, 08:26 AM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Hes got some speed, thats for sure... I think hes gonna be a animal on the next level with his speed, agility, and non stop motor, not to mention, hes above solid against the run... I think he'll be surprising in the in the combine as well...

We shall see, though... I def would have em in the top 5lists of any DE rankings...
Eh his speed is average really all his physical attributes are average. I think he should bulk up and play strongside end. I dont see him being as an elite pass rusher at the next level. I think he will be a good all around player though. Give u some of everything. I think he will become a very good run defender give U 8 sacks thats a pretty good football player. ya, thats pretty good, and probably gonna be better then most of the guys talked about going in the top 10...lol And, thats the truth! Kerrigan is a Safe bet for 8sacks a yr, and 60-70tackles... He also plays nasty, with a all out, attitude... I think you'll be surprised by his speed at the combine... Maybe not super man fast, but pretty fast.. To be honest, i think people don't think of em as fast as he is, because hes white... Now, thats a touchy subject, i know, and i actually understand why some people feel that way, as players of color, for the most part, warp white fellas in athletic ability and speed, most of the time, but Kerrigan is a exception, and he gets to the QB very quickly... Hes pretty explosive, and it isn't all motor, hes built like a OX, very very strong, and i'll be shocked, if he isn't one of the best Pass Rushers to come outta this draft in a few yrs...

Look at this first step, and look at how quick hes on Terrelle Pryor and around the Tackle on the next play.. This actually makes me laugh, watching num 76 for Oh St in the first play..lol


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Im talking about his speed comparatively to the weakside ends in the classlike Quinn and Aldon Smith. I think his speed is good for a strongside end. I think he will have an advantage on the corner against RT's while maybe not against LT's. It should help him generate some more sacks and be an upper tier type rusher from the strongside while middle of the pack from the weakside.</P>

nycsportzfan
02-12-2011, 09:23 AM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Hes got some speed, thats for sure... I think hes gonna be a animal on the next level with his speed, agility, and non stop motor, not to mention, hes above solid against the run... I think he'll be surprising in the in the combine as well...

We shall see, though... I def would have em in the top 5lists of any DE rankings...
Eh his speed is average really all his physical attributes are average. I think he should bulk up and play strongside end. I dont see him being as an elite pass rusher at the next level. I think he will be a good all around player though. Give u some of everything. I think he will become a very good run defender give U 8 sacks thats a pretty good football player. ya, thats pretty good, and probably gonna be better then most of the guys talked about going in the top 10...lol And, thats the truth! Kerrigan is a Safe bet for 8sacks a yr, and 60-70tackles... He also plays nasty, with a all out, attitude... I think you'll be surprised by his speed at the combine... Maybe not super man fast, but pretty fast.. To be honest, i think people don't think of em as fast as he is, because hes white... Now, thats a touchy subject, i know, and i actually understand why some people feel that way, as players of color, for the most part, warp white fellas in athletic ability and speed, most of the time, but Kerrigan is a exception, and he gets to the QB very quickly... Hes pretty explosive, and it isn't all motor, hes built like a OX, very very strong, and i'll be shocked, if he isn't one of the best Pass Rushers to come outta this draft in a few yrs...

Look at this first step, and look at how quick hes on Terrelle Pryor and around the Tackle on the next play.. This actually makes me laugh, watching num 76 for Oh St in the first play..lol


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Im talking about his speed comparatively to the weakside ends in the classlike Quinn and Aldon Smith. I think his speed is good for a strongside end. I think he will have an advantage on the corner against RT's while maybe not against LT's. It should help him generate some more sacks and be an upper tier type rusher from the strongside while middle of the pack from the weakside.</p> ya, maybe.. I'm not sold, that hes not super explosive from any side, and that hes not just a Good player, that can do damage against any Tackles, but i see what your saying.. I find overanalyzing sometimes of Prospects, on my part, and sometimes, i think we all do it.. Kerrigan to me, seems pretty agile, and athletic, but just adds some of the Strong side defensive End charecteristics to his game as well, like being powerful and stout against the run... I think u line em up against any Tackle, and hes got a shot, against a mid pack LT, hes gonna eat em up, fast or not... He does have one fast first step though, thats for sure... He also seems to get to 3rd gear pretty fast, and before u know it,hes on top of u.. I also like how he can get on top of a ball carrier before the ball carrier can really decide which way to go.. If a ball carrier wants to be tenative with this guy lingering, hes gonna find himself on the ground, behind the line, thats for sure... This kerrigan kid can ball...

Neverend
02-12-2011, 05:46 PM
Kerrigan did fair very nicely against nate solder in the senior bowl practices, and solder is probably the most athleticoffensive linemanin this draft class.</P>


kyle vanden bosch has been a great player in this league because of his amazing motor despite having just average physical tools. i think kerrigan can be a solid pass rusher in this league, not an elite one tho. so do you take him with a top 15 pick? i dunno, i never once thought he was going to be a top 15 pick anyway. this is shaping up to be a special defensive line class and i see all of these players turning into good to elite players in their own unique ways. ill be rooting for kerrigan anyway, just a great leader and a guy who plays football the right way</P>

nycsportzfan
02-12-2011, 09:56 PM
Kerrigan did fair very nicely against nate solder in the senior bowl practices, and solder is probably the most athleticoffensive linemanin this draft class.</p>


kyle vanden bosch has been a great player in this league because of his amazing motor despite having just average physical tools. i think kerrigan can be a solid pass rusher in this league, not an elite one tho. so do you take him with a top 15 pick? i dunno, i never once thought he was going to be a top 15 pick anyway. this is shaping up to be a special defensive line class and i see all of these players turning into good to elite players in their own unique ways. ill be rooting for kerrigan anyway, just a great leader and a guy who plays football the right way</p> oh, well, if he didn't do well against Nate Solder in the Sr Bowl, i guess that settles it...lol I here what your saying, but i also think, hes a super Prospect with a beuaty of a first step, pure strength, non stop motor, enough athletic ability, and superb run stopping capabilities... I think hes gonna have a beast career... He should definetly be in the next group after the elite prospects....

Redeyejedi
02-12-2011, 10:24 PM
I think Ryan Kerrigan should be on that Next Up list....
I think he would be behind that second group, he just doesnt really have an elite skill set. Hes a solid player and gives 100% effort every play, hes just not that great of an athlete. Hes got some speed, thats for sure... I think hes gonna be a animal on the next level with his speed, agility, and non stop motor, not to mention, hes above solid against the run... I think he'll be surprising in the in the combine as well...

We shall see, though... I def would have em in the top 5lists of any DE rankings...
Eh his speed is average really all his physical attributes are average. I think he should bulk up and play strongside end. I dont see him being as an elite pass rusher at the next level. I think he will be a good all around player though. Give u some of everything. I think he will become a very good run defender give U 8 sacks thats a pretty good football player. ya, thats pretty good, and probably gonna be better then most of the guys talked about going in the top 10...lol And, thats the truth! Kerrigan is a Safe bet for 8sacks a yr, and 60-70tackles... He also plays nasty, with a all out, attitude... I think you'll be surprised by his speed at the combine... Maybe not super man fast, but pretty fast.. To be honest, i think people don't think of em as fast as he is, because hes white... Now, thats a touchy subject, i know, and i actually understand why some people feel that way, as players of color, for the most part, warp white fellas in athletic ability and speed, most of the time, but Kerrigan is a exception, and he gets to the QB very quickly... Hes pretty explosive, and it isn't all motor, hes built like a OX, very very strong, and i'll be shocked, if he isn't one of the best Pass Rushers to come outta this draft in a few yrs...

Look at this first step, and look at how quick hes on Terrelle Pryor and around the Tackle on the next play.. This actually makes me laugh, watching num 76 for Oh St in the first play..lol


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Im talking about his speed comparatively to the weakside ends in the classlike Quinn and Aldon Smith. I think his speed is good for a strongside end. I think he will have an advantage on the corner against RT's while maybe not against LT's. It should help him generate some more sacks and be an upper tier type rusher from the strongside while middle of the pack from the weakside.</P> ya, maybe.. I'm not sold, that hes not super explosive from any side, and that hes not just a Good player, that can do damage against any Tackles, but i see what your saying.. I find overanalyzing sometimes of Prospects, on my part, and sometimes, i think we all do it.. Kerrigan to me, seems pretty agile, and athletic, but just adds some of the Strong side defensive End charecteristics to his game as well, like being powerful and stout against the run... I think u line em up against any Tackle, and hes got a shot, against a mid pack LT, hes gonna eat em up, fast or not... He does have one fast first step though, thats for sure... He also seems to get to 3rd gear pretty fast, and before u know it,hes on top of u.. I also like how he can get on top of a ball carrier before the ball carrier can really decide which way to go.. If a ball carrier wants to be tenative with this guy lingering, hes gonna find himself on the ground, behind the line, thats for sure... This kerrigan kid can ball...
I think he may start his career as a weakside end add some bulk get up to 275 and flip to the strongside in a year or 2 kind of like Chris Long.Thats where I believe his long term spot is.But yeah i could be over doing it with the analyzing

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 07:08 AM
</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Prospects-who-should-have-stayed-in-school.html</P>


Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html)</P>


A look at five junior prospects whose draft stock would have been better served if they stayed in school for their senior year.</P>


RB John Clay: Wisconsin
Clay is a guy who is never going to get much more explosive or dynamic, and maybe him thinking that the less wear and tear on his legs the better in terms of his pro career. However, when you watch the guy on tape he’s just a really “blah” athlete who is going to struggle to make anyone miss at the next level and is rarely going to be able to create for himself. Add in the two facts that the Wisconsin offense was actually better when he wasn’t in the game and that this is a very deep running back class in 2011, and I have a hard time seeing Clay come off the board much before the later portions of the draft.</P>


WR DeAndre Brown: Southern Miss
There is no question in my mind that this guy is an NFL-caliber talent. When healthy, Brown possesses a real burst for a big man, runs well after the catch and knows how to use his big frame to go up and get the football. However, he’s suffered a number of injuries ever since the end of his freshman season and watching him at times this past year, he looked like a shell of the guy we saw in 2008. There are also character and immaturity issues with Brown as well. I thought if he were to come back for his senior year, put his best foot forward, prove he’s healthy and have a strong year that he could make a run at the top-100 picks. However, with so many off the field and medical questions surrounding his name, I have a hard time seeing him go much before the final two rounds.</P>


FS Will Hill: Florida
Hill is a former five-star recruit who has only one full year of starting experience while at Florida. And despite being an intriguing size/speed athlete the fact is the guy doesn’t make many plays in the deep half on the football. He had only two interceptions in 2010, only one other pass breakup and when watching him on tape he isn’t a real instinctive defender. Plus, he’s not real polished in his drop, isn’t real clean getting out of his breaks and isn’t a real impressive tackler. He was a hyped-up recruit who got some pub early in his career because of his overall athletic ability. However, as a football player and safety the guy still has a long ways to go and would have been much better served in my view to stay at Florida for another year and develop at his trade.</P>


OLB Thomas Keiser: Stanford
Keiser was a productive DE/OLB prospect for the Cardinal who recorded 19.5 sacks over the past three seasons, playing both from a two- and three-point stance. However, coming off a junior year where he had only 4.5 sacks standing up as a 34 OLB the thought was in most draft circles that he was definitely coming back. That wasn’t the case. Since then Keiser was one of the notable snubs for the NFL Combine and will need to prove he has the kind of athleticism needed to be an effective pass rusher either at DE/OLB at his pro day only. He looks nothing more than a late-round pick at this stage, where as I thought if he were to come back for his senior year and have a productive season, the mid rounds could have been a likely possibility come 2012.</P>


RB Darren Evans: Virginia Tech
Much like John Clay, I get the idea that a physical running back like Evans needs to come out as early as possible in order to limit the wear and tear on the tires. However, with Evans coming off a torn ACL that caused him to miss the 2009 season and showing no real burst to his game this past year, I think he would have been better served to take that second year of recovery where most athletes say you really start to get your initial explosion back. Evans now is a big medical concern who runs high and hard, doesn’t have much wiggle to his game and is going to be nothing more than a late round/free agent type back. He’s also likely going to have a tough time making an NFL roster. Even if he was the number two guy at Virginia Tech next year, being able to show scouts he’s healthier than he was in 2010 and have some kind of burst/explosion to his game — unlike this year — would have been better for his draft prospects than coming out early this year in a deep running back class with clear medical issues.</P>

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 07:16 AM
Not sure if this was posted</P>


Cam Newton Workout Video</P>


http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/pages/xx1090tv#vmix_media_id=61818641</P>


not much here but if your intersted. Warren Moon is coaching him it looks like</P>


One thing though I wish I lived in San Diego</P>

nycsportzfan
02-13-2011, 08:07 AM
</p>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Prospects-who-should-have-stayed-in-school.html</p>


Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html)</p>


A look at five junior prospects whose draft stock would have been better served if they stayed in school for their senior year.</p>


RB John Clay: Wisconsin
Clay is a guy who is never going to get much more explosive or dynamic, and maybe him thinking that the less wear and tear on his legs the better in terms of his pro career. However, when you watch the guy on tape he’s just a really “blah” athlete who is going to struggle to make anyone miss at the next level and is rarely going to be able to create for himself. Add in the two facts that the Wisconsin offense was actually better when he wasn’t in the game and that this is a very deep running back class in 2011, and I have a hard time seeing Clay come off the board much before the later portions of the draft.</p>


WR DeAndre Brown: Southern Miss
There is no question in my mind that this guy is an NFL-caliber talent. When healthy, Brown possesses a real burst for a big man, runs well after the catch and knows how to use his big frame to go up and get the football. However, he’s suffered a number of injuries ever since the end of his freshman season and watching him at times this past year, he looked like a shell of the guy we saw in 2008. There are also character and immaturity issues with Brown as well. I thought if he were to come back for his senior year, put his best foot forward, prove he’s healthy and have a strong year that he could make a run at the top-100 picks. However, with so many off the field and medical questions surrounding his name, I have a hard time seeing him go much before the final two rounds.</p>


FS Will Hill: Florida
Hill is a former five-star recruit who has only one full year of starting experience while at Florida. And despite being an intriguing size/speed athlete the fact is the guy doesn’t make many plays in the deep half on the football. He had only two interceptions in 2010, only one other pass breakup and when watching him on tape he isn’t a real instinctive defender. Plus, he’s not real polished in his drop, isn’t real clean getting out of his breaks and isn’t a real impressive tackler. He was a hyped-up recruit who got some pub early in his career because of his overall athletic ability. However, as a football player and safety the guy still has a long ways to go and would have been much better served in my view to stay at Florida for another year and develop at his trade.</p>


OLB Thomas Keiser: Stanford
Keiser was a productive DE/OLB prospect for the Cardinal who recorded 19.5 sacks over the past three seasons, playing both from a two- and three-point stance. However, coming off a junior year where he had only 4.5 sacks standing up as a 34 OLB the thought was in most draft circles that he was definitely coming back. That wasn’t the case. Since then Keiser was one of the notable snubs for the NFL Combine and will need to prove he has the kind of athleticism needed to be an effective pass rusher either at DE/OLB at his pro day only. He looks nothing more than a late-round pick at this stage, where as I thought if he were to come back for his senior year and have a productive season, the mid rounds could have been a likely possibility come 2012.</p>


RB Darren Evans: Virginia Tech
Much like John Clay, I get the idea that a physical running back like Evans needs to come out as early as possible in order to limit the wear and tear on the tires. However, with Evans coming off a torn ACL that caused him to miss the 2009 season and showing no real burst to his game this past year, I think he would have been better served to take that second year of recovery where most athletes say you really start to get your initial explosion back. Evans now is a big medical concern who runs high and hard, doesn’t have much wiggle to his game and is going to be nothing more than a late round/free agent type back. He’s also likely going to have a tough time making an NFL roster. Even if he was the number two guy at Virginia Tech next year, being able to show scouts he’s healthier than he was in 2010 and have some kind of burst/explosion to his game — unlike this year — would have been better for his draft prospects than coming out early this year in a deep running back class with clear medical issues.</p> I seen Deandre Brown in one of his rare games he was healthy this yr(bowl game against Louisville), and all though, he wasen't overly productive, i see the talent.... Its hard not to think of Danario Alexander, when thinking of D.Brown..

I like Evans as a late Rd RB, that is worth a flier, and i agree with wes, he should've returned.. When u get late in this draft, the RB talent falls off, and thats why i have evans as a later rd RB i like, because hes shown enough power and production to hope u get lucky... His 2008 season will have GM's thinking of a steal, that can become a feature grinder in a backfield, and if he dosen't do anything, so be it, hes one of the best, Risk/Reward backs in this draft, because hes gonna be able to compete physcally with any team he goes against, and in a close game, possibly be that Grind it out, bulldozing back that is a nessecity on a winning team, and he reminds me alot of Kuhn for GB as far as skill set...

nycsportzfan
02-13-2011, 08:31 AM
I am sitting here thinking, how the hell we aren't talking more about KJ Wright.. I keep forgetting about em, and noticed no one talking about em, but for a team that could certainly use a SLB, and Ayers most likley not being there when we pick in RD 1, KJ Wright is really a player we could target in the 3/4 rd range... I loved watching him play, and hes insanley good in Coverege for a player as big as he is, and he has very good speed, and some of the longest arms at the positon, and he was a no doubt leader of that turned around defense at Miss St... The guy finished 2nd on Miss St with 9pass defended, registered 3sacks, 98tackles, and was supposedly clocked as fast as 4.59 in the 40 yrd dash... This guy could be a super super player at the next level, and for someone i am so high on, i keep forgetting to talk more about em... Talk about flying under the radar.. I think Wrigth mite be one of the biggest steals in this draft, if he in fact does go in the 3rd-4th range....

juice33s
02-13-2011, 11:19 AM
Not sure if this was posted</p>


Cam Newton Workout Video</p>


http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/pages/xx1090tv#vmix_media_id=61818641</p>


not much here but if your intersted. Warren Moon is coaching him it looks like</p>


One thing though I wish I lived in San Diego</p>
I moving there next week

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 11:23 AM
Not sure if this was posted</P>


Cam Newton Workout Video</P>


http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/pages/xx1090tv#vmix_media_id=61818641</P>


not much here but if your intersted. Warren Moon is coaching him it looks like</P>


One thing though I wish I lived in San Diego</P>



I moving there next week
</P>


U suck , lol. I miss Florida sometimes but the heat was awful to. San Diego is perfect</P>

juice33s
02-13-2011, 11:26 AM
Not sure if this was posted</p>


Cam Newton Workout Video</p>


http://www.xx1090sandiego.com/pages/xx1090tv#vmix_media_id=61818641</p>


not much here but if your intersted. Warren Moon is coaching him it looks like</p>


One thing though I wish I lived in San Diego</p>



I moving there next week
</p>


U suck , lol. I miss Florida sometimes but the heat was awful to. San Diego is perfect</p>
Exactly, SD is a dry heat, Florida's too humid

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Anyone got any opinion on SC receiver Tori Gurly 6-4 238 pounds redshirt sophmore who declared early because of his age I guess 23. He blocks real well he sprung Lattimore on the outside a bunch this year. Runs prettywell for his size (4.6) maybe a TE/HB in the NFL. He has good control a long the sideline.

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 01:42 PM
I know everyone is in 2011 draft mode but im scribeing plays to make highlight videos of some 2012 players and thos kid Devonte Holloman S from SCcan really play. Mark Barron however looks horrible. I scribed 1 quarter so far and he has had a number of miscues. Devin Taylor the SCsoon to be Junior DE/SOLB 6-7 249 looks like he could be in for a monster year next season after 8 sacks in 2010. He looks comfortable standing up and in coverage should be looked at as a 3-4 OLB as well.</P>

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 07:36 PM
It took 5 hours but I worked all the plays from the Alabama SC game so now I can go back and start some highlight vids.</P>


Edit :Ive got 2 videos done from the Bama vs Sc game one of Alshon Jeffery and one of Stephon Gilmore</P>

juice33s
02-13-2011, 10:40 PM
It took 5 hours but I worked all the plays from the Alabama SC game so now I can go back and start some highlight vids.</p>


Edit :Ive got 2 videos done from the Bama vs Sc game one of Alshon Jeffery and one of Stephon Gilmore</p>
you gonna post them or what?

Redeyejedi
02-13-2011, 11:10 PM
I was going to wait but since u asked</P>


Stephon Gilmore</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8ESq72S9k</P>


</P>


</P>


Alshon Jeffery</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-z3QG2Qo4A</P>


</P>

juice33s
02-13-2011, 11:20 PM
I was going to wait but since u asked</p>


Stephon Gilmore</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8ESq72S9k</p>


</p>


</p>


Alshon Jeffery</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-z3QG2Qo4A</p>


</p>
Thanks nice vids, The Jeffery one was better quality, why was that?

Redeyejedi
02-14-2011, 12:01 AM
I was going to wait but since u asked</P>


Stephon Gilmore</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8ESq72S9k</P>


</P>


</P>


Alshon Jeffery</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-z3QG2Qo4A</P>


</P>



Thanks nice vids, The Jeffery one was better quality, why was that?
</P>


Maybe I compressed it differently. Its from the same game. There not done I have some more games to add to both players. Plus i want to square the CB's. Im going to do a bunch of players.Im going to start with the SEC. My hope is to get a SECand maybe ACC draft blog up for the 2012 draft.I was going to work just the 2012 players but maybe i will do some for players that I havent seen videos for like Ahmad Black. Im also keeping track of the corners Forced INC rate and receivers targets/ catches. </P>

juice33s
02-14-2011, 12:08 AM
I was going to wait but since u asked</p>


Stephon Gilmore</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8ESq72S9k</p>


</p>


</p>


Alshon Jeffery</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-z3QG2Qo4A</p>


</p>



Thanks nice vids, The Jeffery one was better quality, why was that?
</p>


Maybe I compressed it differently. Its from the same game. There not done I have some more games to add to both players. Plus i want to square the CB's. Im going to do a bunch of players.Im going to start with the SEC. My hope is to get a SECand maybe ACC draft blog up for the 2012 draft.I was going to work just the 2012 players but maybe i will do some for players that I havent seen videos for like Ahmad Black. Im also keeping track of the corners Forced INC rate and receivers targets/ catches. </p>
There's definitely an audience for it. The football outsider guys seems to be making some good money on the NFL side of things, but I haven't seen anything like that for college football (Could be an untapped market)

Also great game to do on Gilmore, I'm sure this time next year alot of people will want to see how he did going up against Julio Jones.

myles2424
02-14-2011, 04:12 AM
I am sitting here thinking, how the hell we aren't talking more about KJ Wright.. I keep forgetting about em, and noticed no one talking about em, but for a team that could certainly use a SLB, and Ayers most likley not being there when we pick in RD 1, KJ Wright is really a player we could target in the 3/4 rd range... I loved watching him play, and hes insanley good in Coverege for a player as big as he is, and he has very good speed, and some of the longest arms at the positon, and he was a no doubt leader of that turned around defense at Miss St... The guy finished 2nd on Miss St with 9pass defended, registered 3sacks, 98tackles, and was supposedly clocked as fast as 4.59 in the 40 yrd dash... This guy could be a super super player at the next level, and for someone i am so high on, i keep forgetting to talk more about em... Talk about flying under the radar.. I think Wrigth mite be one of the biggest steals in this draft, if he in fact does go in the 3rd-4th range....
</P>


I hear alot of good things about him....In paticular, him being good in coverage, That seems to be the missing link nowadays....</P>


I think he's 6'3 245, if he runs anything near a 4.59 he'll be looked at in the 2nd/3rd range with the season that he's had...</P>

Redeyejedi
02-14-2011, 07:09 AM
I was going to wait but since u asked</P>


Stephon Gilmore</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG8ESq72S9k</P>


</P>


</P>


Alshon Jeffery</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-z3QG2Qo4A</P>


</P>



Thanks nice vids, The Jeffery one was better quality, why was that?
</P>


Maybe I compressed it differently. Its from the same game. There not done I have some more games to add to both players. Plus i want to square the CB's. Im going to do a bunch of players.Im going to start with the SEC. My hope is to get a SECand maybe ACC draft blog up for the 2012 draft.I was going to work just the 2012 players but maybe i will do some for players that I havent seen videos for like Ahmad Black. Im also keeping track of the corners Forced INC rate and receivers targets/ catches. </P>
There's definitely an audience for it. The football outsider guys seems to be making some good money on the NFL side of things, but I haven't seen anything like that for college football (Could be an untapped market)

Also great game to do on Gilmore, I'm sure this time next year alot of people will want to see how he did going up against Julio Jones.
I have it differentiated by Zone or Man coverage as well.Im going to clean up the videos as well. I just wanted to get the clips separated by players. Im pretty excited to break down Janoris Jenkins

nycsportzfan
02-14-2011, 04:29 PM
I am sitting here thinking, how the hell we aren't talking more about KJ Wright.. I keep forgetting about em, and noticed no one talking about em, but for a team that could certainly use a SLB, and Ayers most likley not being there when we pick in RD 1, KJ Wright is really a player we could target in the 3/4 rd range... I loved watching him play, and hes insanley good in Coverege for a player as big as he is, and he has very good speed, and some of the longest arms at the positon, and he was a no doubt leader of that turned around defense at Miss St... The guy finished 2nd on Miss St with 9pass defended, registered 3sacks, 98tackles, and was supposedly clocked as fast as 4.59 in the 40 yrd dash... This guy could be a super super player at the next level, and for someone i am so high on, i keep forgetting to talk more about em... Talk about flying under the radar.. I think Wrigth mite be one of the biggest steals in this draft, if he in fact does go in the 3rd-4th range....
</p>


I hear alot of good things about him....In paticular, him being good in coverage, That seems to be the missing link nowadays....</p>


I think he's 6'3 245, if he runs anything near a 4.59 he'll be looked at in the 2nd/3rd range with the season that he's had...</p> ya, hes extremely talented... I guess his attitude is downright terrific as well... The guys got the speed, size, attitude, and expierence. and is not 1dimensional.. Pretty much the complete package.... Hes one of my favorite prospects in this whole draft, and hes flying under the radar.... If he runs that 4.59, he won't be under the radar no more...lol

nycsportzfan
02-14-2011, 04:36 PM
I know everyone is in 2011 draft mode but im scribeing plays to make highlight videos of some 2012 players and thos kid Devonte Holloman S from SCcan really play. Mark Barron however looks horrible. I scribed 1 quarter so far and he has had a number of miscues. Devin Taylor the SCsoon to be Junior DE/SOLB 6-7 249 looks like he could be in for a monster year next season after 8 sacks in 2010. He looks comfortable standing up and in coverage should be looked at as a 3-4 OLB as well.</p> I was watching a virginia game this past yr, and trying to do some homework on Ras I Dowling, and this kid CHASE MINNIFIELD caught my eye... I would love to see some more video on this ballhawk... Kids got solid listed size and looks pretty big enough in person.. One things for sure, hes the guy that killed it when i was looking at RAS, and i am expecting him to be in RD 1 consideration next yr.. Check him out if u could, redeye....

Neverend
02-14-2011, 05:18 PM
I know everyone is in 2011 draft mode but im scribeing plays to make highlight videos of some 2012 players and thos kid Devonte Holloman S from SCcan really play. Mark Barron however looks horrible. I scribed 1 quarter so far and he has had a number of miscues. Devin Taylor the SCsoon to be Junior DE/SOLB 6-7 249 looks like he could be in for a monster year next season after 8 sacks in 2010. He looks comfortable standing up and in coverage should be looked at as a 3-4 OLB as well.</P>


I was watching a virginia game this past yr, and trying to do some homework on Ras I Dowling, and this kid CHASE MINNIFIELD caught my eye... I would love to see some more video on this ballhawk... Kids got solid listed size and looks pretty big enough in person.. One things for sure, hes the guy that killed it when i was looking at RAS, and i am expecting him to be in RD 1 consideration next yr.. Check him out if u could, redeye....
</P>


yes i was saying that during the season when people still had dowling rated high. i think his teammate minnifield is much, much more impressive. same with curtis brown and aaron williams..</P>

Redeyejedi
02-14-2011, 05:34 PM
I know everyone is in 2011 draft mode but im scribeing plays to make highlight videos of some 2012 players and thos kid Devonte Holloman S from SCcan really play. Mark Barron however looks horrible. I scribed 1 quarter so far and he has had a number of miscues. Devin Taylor the SCsoon to be Junior DE/SOLB 6-7 249 looks like he could be in for a monster year next season after 8 sacks in 2010. He looks comfortable standing up and in coverage should be looked at as a 3-4 OLB as well.</P> I was watching a virginia game this past yr, and trying to do some homework on Ras I Dowling, and this kid CHASE MINNIFIELD caught my eye... I would love to see some more video on this ballhawk... Kids got solid listed size and looks pretty big enough in person.. One things for sure, hes the guy that killed it when i was looking at RAS, and i am expecting him to be in RD 1 consideration next yr.. Check him out if u could, redeye....
Yeah he is a guy i was planning to get something up on. Im working Alabama Florida now. I have to say Jenkins had a very strong game. Outside the first series there are barely any highlights or lowlights because he wasnt getting thrown at.It kinda sux because I want to make a video on him. LOL. I might make a video on Pouncey because he had a really poor game and I think maybe it should be shown

Redeyejedi
02-15-2011, 05:01 PM
heres a Mark Barron vid I started</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfrFt6ZpL8I</P>

Neverend
02-15-2011, 05:13 PM
I would love a Janoris Jenkins vid.</P>


But anyway I'd be careful uploading these SEC videos, you're probably going to get suspended or the videos get removed if they get popular</P>

Redeyejedi
02-15-2011, 05:33 PM
I would love a Janoris Jenkins vid.</P>


But anyway I'd be careful uploading these SEC videos, you're probably going to get suspended or the videos get removed if they get popular</P>


</P>


There not Public. Im planning on pulling them down till there complete just wanted to give some of U guys a look at them. It takes so long to go over every play in a game and label them to a player and time. I wanted to throw something up after the time I spent. I wanted to label all the plays so when CJ Mosley ends up being a first round pick down the line I dont have to go over the whole game to find his plays</P>

Redeyejedi
02-15-2011, 05:36 PM
I would love a Janoris Jenkins vid.</P>


But anyway I'd be careful uploading these SEC videos, you're probably going to get suspended or the videos get removed if they get popular</P>


</P>


I have the plays scribed for the Alabama game. Im going to do one of him. He only had 3 targets though. I will throw that one up for U guys to get a look at it when im done</P>


Last one until Im finished with them. I have to find a program that puts the arrow over the player. But heres the raw clips of the Pouncy one im working on. This is from the Bama game</P>


Mike Pouncy </P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-s8qfuFEw</P>

juice33s
02-15-2011, 06:15 PM
I would love a Janoris Jenkins vid.</p>


But anyway I'd be careful uploading these SEC videos, you're probably going to get suspended or the videos get removed if they get popular</p>


</p>


I have the plays scribed for the Alabama game. Im going to do one of him. He only had 3 targets though. I will throw that one up for U guys to get a look at it when im done</p>


Last one until Im finished with them. I have to find a program that puts the arrow over the player. But heres the raw clips of the Pouncy one im working on. This is from the Bama game</p>


Mike Pouncy </p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv-s8qfuFEw</p>
About what I expected on Pouncey....Could he come in and start day one at LG?, Probably.....Is he worth a first round pick? **** No.

juice33s
02-15-2011, 06:17 PM
Small note to pass on, South Carolina TE Weslye Saunders is now eligible for the NFL draft and will participate at the combine
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2011/2/15/1995545/weslye-saunders-eligible-for-nfl-draft-after-all

Raptor22
02-16-2011, 07:37 AM
Small note to pass on, South Carolina TE Weslye Saunders is now eligible for the NFL draft and will participate at the combine
http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2011/2/15/1995545/weslye-saunders-eligible-for-nfl-draft-after-all


Could be worth a Brashaw-esque late rounder. I wouldn't mind him as a player, its all the other crap that comes with him.

Redeyejedi
02-16-2011, 08:10 AM
Todd Mcshay LOL</P>


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/10/mcshay-begins-to-backtrack-on-jake-locker/</P>


Late last month, we noted the <FONT color=#d81718>polarizing effect</FONT> (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/jake-locker-is-a-polarizing-figure/) of Washington quarterback Jake Locker on draft analysts. Adam Caplan of FOX Sports and Russ Lande of Sporting News were thoroughly unimpressed with Locker’s Senior Bowl performance, while NFL Network’s Mike Mayock pinpointed Locker’s <FONT color=#d81718>struggles as a pocket passer</FONT> (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/mayock-locker-struggles-to-throw-inside-the-pocket/).</P>


ESPN’s Todd McShay seemed to be Locker’s only steadfast backer left, alleging that the fifth-year senior’s “<FONT color=#d81718>accuracy improved … each and every day</FONT> (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/jake-locker-is-a-polarizing-figure/)” in Mobile. McShay claimed, at the time, that Locker helped his draft stock at the Senior Bowl.</P>


Something changed since late January.</P>


Appearing on SportsCenter Thursday, McShay was asked about risers and fallers at this point in draft season. After running through his list of risers (e.g. Alabama running back Mark Ingram and Texas A&amp;M linebacker Von Miller), the first name McShay gave for his fallers was Washington quarterback Jake Locker.</P>


McShay explained that Locker’s “fall” is attributable to poor accuracy, essentially the exact same criticism offered by Caplan and Lande, and alluded to by Mayock.</P>


Perhaps McShay has been speaking to NFL scouts since the Senior Bowl. Those scouts were unimpressed with Locker’s practices, so McShay adjusted his evaluation accordingly.</P>


Either that, or McShay is swiping other draft analysts’ ideas without assigning proper credit.</P>


</P>

Redeyejedi
02-16-2011, 08:58 AM
Here is something I found from the Director of College Scouting from the Chicago Bears Greg Gabriel. He worked for the NY Giants for 16 year as a scout. Its from the National Football Post. Its on Scouting Quarterbacks.This is a good siteI would check it out if U have the time.Maybe U guys will find interesting.</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Scouting-Tight-Ends-and-Receivers.htmlSame thing but receivers and Tight ends</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.<FONT color=#000000>com</FONT>/Scouting-the-Offensive-Line.html (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Scouting-the-Offensive-Line.html)Same thing Oline</P>


http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Scouting-Quarterbacks.html</P>


Greg Gabriel (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Greg-Gabriel-1873.html)</P>


Scouting quarterbacks (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&amp;position=qb) looks like it can be fairly easy but in reality it can be a frustrating experience. There is so much more to it than just looking at stats. The college game is very different than the pro game. The vast majority of college offenses are some form of the spread, where the quarterback usually reads only half the field on a given play. What looks complex can be very simple when compared to what a quarterback is asked to do once he gets to the NFL.</P>


Where is the starting point? That’s a good question and I’m sure that it varies from scout to scout. One of the first things I look for is if the prospect is capable of playing in the offense my team is running. Does he have the physical traits to play that offense? Most NFL offensive coordinators want size. The ideal player would be in the 6-3 to 6-5 range with a good degree of athleticism. Athleticism is more than speed; it’s the player’s quick feet, agility and body control. Brett Favre was far from being a fast guy but his quick feet in the pocket and his “feel” for pass rushers enabled him to keep plays alive. Quarterbacks who can make plays with their feet are highly valued.</P>


More so than size and athleticism is the intangibles and what many call the “it” factor. Some have “it” and some don’t. “It” is a combination of things, starting with instincts. To be a successful quarterback in the NFL you have to have outstanding instincts. He has to anticipate and understand things extremely well. Intelligence is important, but in my view instincts are even more important. There have been many great quarterbacks through the years that didn’t have great natural intelligence but their instincts for the game were off the charts. Another part of the “it” factor is leadership and competitiveness. Most of the outstanding quarterbacks are great leaders and extremely competitive people. They hate to lose at anything. They have to have the feeling and have to give their teammates the feeling that they can get the job done. He has to be in total command. The shy, meek personality may have the physical traits but he just isn’t going to get his teammates to believe in him. That player will fail.</P>


<FONT size=5>A few years ago, there was a quarterback in the draft that was highly touted by a lot of teams because of his physical traits. During the interview process, I talked to the player about his college career. His career started slowly but by the time he was a senior he had very good stats and won a lot of games. He told me that as an underclassman when he wasn’t as successful, he would walk around campus in a hooded sweatshirt with the hood up because he didn’t want people to recognize him. Right away I knew this player was not for me. He didn’t think of himself as a winner so how were his teammates going think he was a winner? This player was drafted in the first round but failed and there is not a doubt in my mind it was because he didn’t have “it.”</FONT></P>


When looking at the physical traits, I look at a lot of things. Arm strength is, of course, very important but not the most important. If you’re looking for a quarterback to play in Chicago, Buffalo or New York, arm strength can be more important because of weather conditions. Players with weak arms are going to struggle in those places. Still, some players with average arms have succeeded because they spin the ball well. What do I mean by spin? When the ball comes out of the quarterback’s hands I look for a ball that has a tight spin and doesn’t flutter. A tight ball has a chance to “cut” through wind, but if a quarterback throws a loose ball the wind will take it all over the place.</P>


Next, I look at the player’s release. Does he have a tight, compact delivery where he gets the ball out of his hand quickly or does he have a long windup? How is his footwork at delivery? Is he a quick stepper or a “long strider” into the throw? If I determine that he has a poor delivery, then I ask myself if it is something that can be corrected with coaching. You can work for months trying to correct a player’s delivery and then in the heat of battle he reverts back to his old form.</P>


What’s difficult when scouting quarterbacks today is that you seldom see them take snaps from under center. They are always in the shotgun. You might think that because he is a quarterback he can of course take the snap. That’s not always the case. It’s a learned trait that has to be practiced. A few years ago at the Senior Bowl there were so many fumbled exchanges the first day of practice, both teams had to go to a spread-style offense in order to play the game. All six quarterbacks had played in spread formations and had taken very few snaps from under center. It was almost comical to watch. It’s imperative to work out a quarterback prospect who played in a spread formation in college.</P>


Accuracy is a key component when evaluating a quarterback. Accuracy can be defined by completion percentage. but in my view it’s completion percentage and ball placement. In the college game, the window to complete a pass is usually fairly big; in the pro game it’s a lot tighter. Quarterbacks with good ball placement skills will consistently put the ball in an area where the receiver has a chance to do something after the catch. You also want the ball to be placed where the chance of interception is minimal.</P>


When watching game tape of quarterbacks you also have to look at more than just his ability to make throws. You have to study how he performs in different situations. Does he make the big play when he has to? How many times does he make a first down throw when it’s third and long? How often does he sustain drives and put points on the board? What kind of points is he getting… field goals or touchdowns? Does he make the players around him better players? Is he a winner?</P>


I could go on and on with this subject but we don’t have the space. I hope this gives you some idea of what it takes to scout quarterbacks for today’s NFL.</P>


</P>


</P>


U think thats Jamarcus Russel</P>

juice33s
02-16-2011, 10:00 AM
Todd Mcshay LOL</p>


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/10/mcshay-begins-to-backtrack-on-jake-locker/</p>


Late last month, we noted the <font color="#d81718">polarizing effect</font> (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/jake-locker-is-a-polarizing-figure/) of Washington quarterback Jake Locker on draft analysts. Adam Caplan of FOX Sports and Russ Lande of Sporting News were thoroughly unimpressed with Locker’s Senior Bowl performance, while NFL Network’s Mike Mayock pinpointed Locker’s <font color="#d81718">struggles as a pocket passer</font> (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/mayock-locker-struggles-to-throw-inside-the-pocket/).</p>


ESPN’s Todd McShay seemed to be Locker’s only steadfast backer left, alleging that the fifth-year senior’s “<font color="#d81718">accuracy improved … each and every day</font> (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/28/jake-locker-is-a-polarizing-figure/)” in Mobile. McShay claimed, at the time, that Locker helped his draft stock at the Senior Bowl.</p>


Something changed since late January.</p>


Appearing on SportsCenter Thursday, McShay was asked about risers and fallers at this point in draft season. After running through his list of risers (e.g. Alabama running back Mark Ingram and Texas A&amp;M linebacker Von Miller), the first name McShay gave for his fallers was Washington quarterback Jake Locker.</p>


McShay explained that Locker’s “fall” is attributable to poor accuracy, essentially the exact same criticism offered by Caplan and Lande, and alluded to by Mayock.</p>


Perhaps McShay has been speaking to NFL scouts since the Senior Bowl. Those scouts were unimpressed with Locker’s practices, so McShay adjusted his evaluation accordingly.</p>


Either that, or McShay is swiping other draft analysts’ ideas without assigning proper credit.</p>


</p>
Personally McShay's always struck me as a pompous jerk and I really don't care for the guy

On a side note I'd take Ponder, Kapernick and Dalton before Locker

Redeyejedi
02-16-2011, 05:28 PM
Prince Amukamara Vid Im doing. Prince vs K State</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-dMqnKOGg0</P>

nycsportzfan
02-18-2011, 03:11 PM
I know, most probably know about Giants Gab on here, but anyways, heres a list of player profiles they got done so far, and they basically oblige anyone who puts a player up there on the comment boards, as they love getting suggestions on players to Profile.. So, if u have a player in mind.. Just some cool reads...



PREVIOUS PROFILES:</p>


OT:</p>


Gabe Carimi (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/29/fat-guy-profiles-ot-gabe-carimi-wisconsin/)</p>


OL Anthony Castanzo (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/28/draft-carousel-ot-anthony-castanzo-boston-college/)</p>


Rodney Hudson (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/09/prospect-profi%E2%80%A6-rodney-hudson/)</p>


Derek Sherrod (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/13/prospect-profi%E2%80%A6-derek-sherrod)</p>


CB</p>


Brandon Harris (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/26/they-might-be-giants-prospect-profiles-cb-brandon-harris-the-u/)</p>


Jimmy Smith (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/07/prospect-profiles-jimmy-smith)</p>


Davon House (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/14/prospect-profiles-davon-house)</p>


TE</p>


Kyle Rudolph (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/24/reeses-pieces-prospect-profiles-te-kyle-rudolph-norte-dame/)</p>


LB</p>


Akeem Ayers, LB, UCLA (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/19/jerrys-kids-prospect-profiles-olb-akeem-ayers-ucla/)</p>


Bruce Carter North Carolina (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/17/reeses-pieces-formerly-prospect-profiles-olb-bruce-carter-north-carolina/)</p>


Greg Jones, Michigan State (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/01/reeses-pieces-lb-greg-jones-michigan-state/)</p>


Dontay Moch, LB, Nevada (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/08/prospect-profiles-dontay-moch/)</p>


Mason Foster, LB, Washington (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/12/prospect-profiles-mason-foster)</p>


KJ Wright, LB, Mississippi State (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/15/prospect-profiles-kj-wright/)</p>


RB</p>


Mark Ingram (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/23/ball-security-prospect-profiles-rb-mark-ingram-alabama)</p>


DeMarco Murray (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/01/30/reeses-pieces-rb-demarco-murray-oklahoma/)</p>


WR:</p>


Jerrel Jernigan (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/10/prospect-profi%E2%80%A6errel-jernigan)</p>


DL</p>


Aldon Smith (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/02/prospect-profiles-not-another-de-de-aldon-smith-missouri/)</p>


Jarvis Jenkins (http://www.giantsgab.com/2011/02/11/prospect-profi%E2%80%A6jarvis-jenkins/)</p>

Redeyejedi
02-20-2011, 09:44 PM
Is Nigel Bradham of FSU going to come out next year? He's a great LB for the Noles, was also 5 star recruit.
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Yeah I like Bradham I started a tape on him</P>

Redeyejedi
02-21-2011, 12:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJOyrM-VRrM</P>


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New Vid I made Martez Wilson vs Missouri</P>

Neverend
02-21-2011, 12:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJOyrM-VRrM</P>


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New Vid I made Martez Wilson vs Missouri</P>


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Thanks for the video.</P>


I thought he was decent. Showed some nice flashes but at times he was a little slow reacting to some plays. He certainly is pretty athletic and fast for such a big guy</P>

nycsportzfan
02-21-2011, 02:08 PM
anyone know anything about Cortez Allen CB Citadel? I was just wondering, because going into this yr, it seemed he was the Num 1 Small School Defensive Player, that i was hereing about... I believe, i seen him in the 2nd rd area, and now, it seems i can't find and haven't heard all that much about em... I thought he was this yrs Akwasi-owusuh-ansah..... I know, hes got the size, and solid speed, but i don't know much else... I see hes in the like 6-7 rd area now, on most draft sites.. Anyone know anything about em?

nycsportzfan
02-21-2011, 02:13 PM
anyone know anything about Cortez Allen CB Citadel? I was just wondering, because going into this yr, it seemed he was the Num 1 Small School Defensive Player, that i was hereing about... I believe, i seen him in the 2nd rd area, and now, it seems i can't find and haven't heard all that much about em... I thought he was this yrs Akwasi-owusuh-ansah..... I know, hes got the size, and solid speed, but i don't know much else... I see hes in the like 6-7 rd area now, on most draft sites.. Anyone know anything about em?
Found this article about em.. Season kinda wasen't anything that jumped out at you this past yr, hence, probably the lack of buzz... But, he will be at the Scouting Combine, and i'll be very interested in seeing how he does...

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Charleston, S.C. - Bulldog standout defensive back Cortez Allen (http://www.citadelsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;ATCLID=1523 757&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700) impressed scouts at last week's 86<sup>th</sup>
Annual East-West Shrine Game® enough to earn an invite to the 2011 NFL
Scouting Combine. Announced this week, Allen will be one of over 300 of
the country's best athletes at the National Invitational Camp to be held
Feb. 23 through March 1, 2011 in Indianapolis, Ind.</p>


Top executives, coaching staffs, player personnel departments and
medical personnel from all 32 NFL teams will be at the combine to
evaluate the nation's top college football players eligible for the
upcoming NFL Draft. This intense, four-day job interview is an exciting
time for the athletes and a vital step in achieving their dreams of
playing in the NFL. </p>


Allen, the only representative from the Southern Conference in last
weekend's bowl, was a 2010 second team All-Conference selection. He tied
for the most pass breakups of any Bulldog in 2010 with five, while also
adding 22 total tackles and two interceptions for 18 yards. In 2009,
Allen recorded two interceptions for 112 yards against Samford, marking
the second-highest single-game number of interception return yards in
SoCon history. The redshirt senior concluded his collegiate career with
120 total tackles, 20 pass deflections and two fumble recoveries. </p>


Arizona Cardinals' wide receiver <span class="duplicatename">Andre Roberts</span> (http://www.citadelsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;ATCLID=1524 412&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700)
was the most recent Bulldog football player invited to the combine.
Roberts, who participated in the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine, was selected
as the 88<sup>th</sup> pick in the third round of the 2010 NFL Draft.</p>


For more information on Bulldog Football, visit the official website of The Citadel Athletics at www.CitadelSports.com (http://www.citadelsports.com/?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700) or follow the Bulldogs on Twitter at www.twitter.com/citadelsports (http://www.twitter.com/citadelsports?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700 ).</p>
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Neverend
02-21-2011, 02:20 PM
I loved Andre Roberts coming out of the draft. Seems like he comes from a good program.. but I dont know a damn about him

Redeyejedi
02-21-2011, 06:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALAF-IbRag</P>


Brandon Harris vs Notre dame Sun Bowl</P>


not much here but its something</P>

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02-21-2011, 07:45 PM
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</td><td class="column-2">ACHO, SAM</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL1</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
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<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">ADAMS, DARVIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">AUBURN</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO1</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
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</td><td class="column-2">AIKEN, DANIEL</td><td class="column-3">DANNY</td><td class="column-4">VIRGINIA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">ST1</td><td class="column-7">LS</td>
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</td><td class="column-2">AJIBOYE, OLUFEMI</td><td class="column-3">LADI</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL2</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
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</td><td class="column-2">ALLEN, ANTHONY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA TECH</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB1</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
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</td><td class="column-4">CITADEL</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB1</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
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</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL4</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
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<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">AYERS, AKEEM</td><td class="column-3">
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</td><td class="column-2">BAILEY, ALLEN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL5</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
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</td><td class="column-2">BAILEY, DAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK1</td><td class="column-7">PK</td>
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</td><td class="column-4">IOWA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL7</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
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</td><td class="column-2">BARKSDALE, JOSEPH</td><td class="column-3">JOE</td><td class="column-4">LOUISIANA ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL2</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
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</td><td class="column-2">BARTHOLOMEW, RYAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SYRACUSE</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL3</td><td class="column-7">OC</td>
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</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL8</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
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<tr class="row-28 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BOREN, JUSTIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OHIO ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL5</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-29 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BOSHER, MATT</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK2</td><td class="column-7">PT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-30 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">BOWERS, DA'QUAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL9</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-31 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BRADFORD, ALLEN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB5</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-32 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BREWER, JAMES</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">INDIANA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL6</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-33 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BRINKLEY, NILES</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WISCONSIN</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB4</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-34 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BROWN, CHYKIE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB5</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-35 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BROWN, CURTIS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB6</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-36 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">BROWN, DEANDRE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO4</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-37 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BROWN, JALIL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">COLORADO</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB7</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-38 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BROWN, VINCENT</td><td class="column-3">VINCE</td><td class="column-4">SAN DIEGO ST</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO5</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-39 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BURNEY, KENDRIC</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB8</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-40 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">BURTON, BRANDON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">UTAH</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB9</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-41 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BURTON, STEPHEN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WEST TEXAS A&amp;M</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO6</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-42 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">BUTLER, MARIO</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA TECH</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB10</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-43 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CAMERON, JORDAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE1</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-44 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CANNON, MARCUS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL7</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-45 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARIMI, GABRIEL</td><td class="column-3">GABE</td><td class="column-4">WISCONSIN</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL8</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-46 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARMICHAEL, RASHAD</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">VIRGINIA TECH</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB11</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-47 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARPENTER, JAMES</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ALABAMA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL9</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-48 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARTER, BRUCE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB3</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-49 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARTER, CHRISTOPHER</td><td class="column-3">CHRIS</td><td class="column-4">FRESNO ST</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL10</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-50 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARTER, DELONE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SYRACUSE</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB6</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-51 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CARTER, QUINTON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB12</td><td class="column-7">FS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-52 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">CASEY, JURRELL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL11</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-53 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CASTONZO, ANTHONY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">BOSTON COL</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL10</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-54 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CHAPAS, SHAUN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB7</td><td class="column-7">FB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-55 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CHEKWA, CHIMDI</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OHIO ST</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB13</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-56 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CHINASA, UGO</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA ST</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL12</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-57 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CHISOLM, GARRETT</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL11</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-58 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CLAY, CHARLES</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TULSA</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE2</td><td class="column-7">HB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-59 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">CLAY, JOHN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WISCONSIN</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB8</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-60 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CLAYBORN, ADRIAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IOWA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL13</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-61 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">COBB, RANDALL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">KENTUCKY</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO7</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-62 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">COLBURN, RYAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FRESNO ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">QB1</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-63 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CONTE, CHRISTOPHER</td><td class="column-3">CHRIS</td><td class="column-4">CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB14</td><td class="column-7">FS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-64 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">COOPER, GRAIG</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB9</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-65 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CUFF, VANCE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB15</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-66 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">CULLIVER, CHRIS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB16</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-67 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DALTON, ANDREW</td><td class="column-3">ANDY</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB2</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-68 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DANIELS, WAYNE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL14</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-69 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">DAREUS, MARCELL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ALABAMA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL15</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-70 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DAVIS, JOSHUA</td><td class="column-3">JOSH</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL12</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-71 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DELL, MARK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MICHIGAN ST</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO8</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-72 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DENT, AKEEM</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB4</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-73 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DEVINE, NOEL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WEST VIRGINIA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB10</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-74 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DEVLIN, PATRICK</td><td class="column-3">PAT</td><td class="column-4">DELAWARE</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB3</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-75 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DOBBS, DEMARCUS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL16</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-76 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DOMINGUEZ, RAY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARKANSAS</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL13</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-77 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DONAHUE, RYAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IOWA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK3</td><td class="column-7">PT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-78 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">DOSS, TANDON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">INDIANA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO9</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-79 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DOWLING, RAS-I</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">VIRGINIA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB17</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-80 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">DRAUGHN, SHAUN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB11</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-81 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ELLIS, KENRICK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">HAMPTON</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL17</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-82 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ELMORE, RICK</td><td class="column-3">RICKY</td><td class="column-4">ARIZONA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL18</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-83 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ENDERLE, NATHAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IDAHO</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB4</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-84 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">EVANS, DARREN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">VIRGINIA TECH</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB12</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-85 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">FAIRLEY, NICK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">AUBURN</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL19</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-86 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FANNIN, MARIO</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">AUBURN</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB13</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-87 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FORBATH, KAI</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">UCLA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK4</td><td class="column-7">PK</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-88 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FORREST, REID</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WASHINGTON ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK5</td><td class="column-7">PT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-89 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FOSTER, MASON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WASHINGTON</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB5</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-90 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FRANKLIN, ORLANDO</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL14</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-91 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FUA, SIONE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">STANFORD</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL20</td><td class="column-7">NT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-92 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">FUSCO, BRANDON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SLIPPERY ROCK</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL15</td><td class="column-7">OC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-93 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">GABBERT, BLAINE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MISSOURI</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB5</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-94 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GANTT, CHARLIE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MICHIGAN ST</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE3</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-95 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GATES, EDMOND</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ABILENE CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO10</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-96 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GILBERT, MARCUS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL16</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-97 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GILCHRIST, MARCUS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB18</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-98 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GOMES, DEJON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEBRASKA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB19</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-99 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GRAHAM, CAMERON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">LOUISVILLE</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE4</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-100 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GRANT, ADAM</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARIZONA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL17</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-101 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GRAVES, JOHN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">VIRGINIA TECH</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL21</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-102 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">GREEN, ADRIEL</td><td class="column-3">A J</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO11</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-103 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GREEN, ALEXANDER</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">HAWAII</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB14</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-104 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">GREEN, VIRGIL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEVADA</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE5</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-105 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">GURLEY, TORI</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO12</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-106 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">GUY, LAWRENCE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARIZONA ST</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL22</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-107 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HAGG, ERIC</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEBRASKA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB20</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-108 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HAIRSTON, CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-3">CHRIS</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL18</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-109 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">HAMLER, JAMEL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FRESNO ST</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO13</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-110 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HANKERSON, LEONARD</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO14</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-111 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HARDY, DANIEL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IDAHO</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE6</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-112 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">HARPER, JAMIE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB15</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-113 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">HARRIS, BRANDON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB21</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-114 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HARRIS, DWAYNE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">EAST CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO15</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-115 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HAVILI, STANLEY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB16</td><td class="column-7">FB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-116 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HELU, ROY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEBRASKA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB17</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-117 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HENERY, ALEX</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEBRASKA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK6</td><td class="column-7">PK</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-118 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HENRY, CHARLES</td><td class="column-3">CHAS</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK7</td><td class="column-7">PT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-119 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HENRY, RICHARD</td><td class="column-3">RICKY</td><td class="column-4">NEBRASKA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL19</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-120 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HERZLICH, SANDON</td><td class="column-3">MARK</td><td class="column-4">BOSTON COL</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB6</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-121 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HEYWARD, CAMERON</td><td class="column-3">CAM</td><td class="column-4">OHIO ST</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL23</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-122 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">HILL, WILL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB22</td><td class="column-7">FS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-123 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HINES, JERMALE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OHIO ST</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB23</td><td class="column-7">SS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-124 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HIX, KYLE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL20</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-125 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HOGAN, BRANDON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WEST VIRGINIA</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB24</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-126 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HOGUE, DOUGLAS</td><td class="column-3">DOUG</td><td class="column-4">SYRACUSE</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB7</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-127 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HOLMES, ANDRE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">HILLSDALE</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO16</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-128 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HOMAN, ROSS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OHIO ST</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB8</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-129 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HOUSE, DAVON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEW MEXICO ST</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB25</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-130 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HOUSLER, ROBERT</td><td class="column-3">ROB</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA ATLANTIC</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE7</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-131 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">HOUSTON, JUSTIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">GEORGIA</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB9</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-132 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HUDSON, RODNEY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL21</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-133 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HUGHES, KEVIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL22</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-134 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HUNTER, JEREMIHA</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IOWA</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB10</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-135 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HUNTER, KENDALL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA ST</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB18</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-136 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HURD, ZACHARY</td><td class="column-3">ZACH</td><td class="column-4">CONNECTICUT</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">OL23</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-137 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">HURT, MAURICE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL24</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-138 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">HYNOSKI, HENRY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">PITTSBURGH</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB19</td><td class="column-7">FB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-139 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">IJALANA, BENJAMIN</td><td class="column-3">BEN</td><td class="column-4">VILLANOVA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL25</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-140 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">INGRAM, MARK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ALABAMA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB20</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-141 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">IRVING, NATHANIEL</td><td class="column-3">NATE</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA ST</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB11</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-142 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JACKSON, ANDREW</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FRESNO ST</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL26</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-143 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JARRETT, JAIQUAWN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEMPLE</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB26</td><td class="column-7">FS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-144 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JASPER, JOSHUA</td><td class="column-3">JOSH</td><td class="column-4">LOUISIANA ST</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK8</td><td class="column-7">PK</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-145 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JEAN, LESTAR</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA ATLANTIC</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO17</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-146 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JENKINS, JARVIS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL24</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-147 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JERNIGAN, JERREL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TROY</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO18</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-148 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JOHNSON, CARL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL27</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-149 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JOHNSON, JERON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">BOISE ST</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB27</td><td class="column-7">SS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-150 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JOHNSON, JERROD</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS A&amp;M</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB6</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-151 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JOHNSON, RONALD</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO19</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-152 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JONES, GREG</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MICHIGAN ST</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB12</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-153 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">JONES, QUINTORRIS</td><td class="column-3">JULIO</td><td class="column-4">ALABAMA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO20</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-154 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">JONES, TAIWAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">EASTERN WASHINGTON</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB21</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-155 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JORDAN, CAMERON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL25</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-156 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">JOSEPH, ELIJAH</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEMPLE</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB13</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-157 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KAEPERNICK, COLIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEVADA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB7</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-158 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KELCE, JASON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CINCINNATI</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL28</td><td class="column-7">OC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-159 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KENDRICKS, LANCE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WISCONSIN</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE8</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-160 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KEO, SHILOH</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IDAHO</td><td class="column-5">10</td><td class="column-6">DB28</td><td class="column-7">SS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-161 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KERLEY, JEREMY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO21</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-162 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KERRIGAN, PATRICK</td><td class="column-3">RYAN</td><td class="column-4">PURDUE</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL26</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-163 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KILGORE, DANIEL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">APPALACHIAN ST</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL29</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-164 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KING, JARRIEL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL30</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-165 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">KLUG, KARL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IOWA</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL27</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-166 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LAPHAM, RICHARD</td><td class="column-3">RICH</td><td class="column-4">BOSTON COL</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL31</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-167 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LEFEGED, JOSEPH</td><td class="column-3">JOE</td><td class="column-4">RUTGERS</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB29</td><td class="column-7">SS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-168 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LEGREE, MARK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">APPALACHIAN ST</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB30</td><td class="column-7">FS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-169 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LEMON, ORIE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA ST</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB14</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-170 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">LESHOURE, MIKEL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ILLINOIS</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB22</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-171 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LEVINGSTON, LAZARIUS</td><td class="column-3">PEP</td><td class="column-4">LOUISIANA ST</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL28</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-172 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">LEWIS, DION</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">PITTSBURGH</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB23</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-173 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LINNENKOHL, ALEXANDER</td><td class="column-3">ALEX</td><td class="column-4">OREGON ST</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL32</td><td class="column-7">OC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-174 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">LITTLE, GREG</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO22</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-175 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">LIUGET, COREY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ILLINOIS</td><td class="column-5">7</td><td class="column-6">DL29</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-176 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LLOYD, GREGORY</td><td class="column-3">GREG</td><td class="column-4">CONNECTICUT</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB15</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-177 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LOCKE, DERRICK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">KENTUCKY</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB24</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-178 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LOCKER, JACOB</td><td class="column-3">JAKE</td><td class="column-4">WASHINGTON</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB8</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-179 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LOCKETT, KENTRELL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MISSISSIPPI</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL30</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-180 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LOCKETTE, RICARDO</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FORT VALLEY ST</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">WO23</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-181 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LOVE, DEMARCUS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARKANSAS</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL33</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-182 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">LUTRUS, SCOTT</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CONNECTICUT</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB16</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-183 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MAEHL, JEFFREY</td><td class="column-3">JEFF</td><td class="column-4">OREGON</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO24</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-184 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">MALLETT, RYAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARKANSAS</td><td class="column-5">4</td><td class="column-6">QB9</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-185 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MARECIC, OWEN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">STANFORD</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB25</td><td class="column-7">FB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-186 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MARSH, CURTIS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">UTAH ST</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB31</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-187 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MATTHEWS, CASEY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OREGON</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB17</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-188 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MATTHEWS, CLIFF</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL31</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-189 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MAXWELL, BYRON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB32</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-190 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MCCARTHY, COLIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MIAMI-FL</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB18</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-191 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MCCLAIN, TERRELL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">SOUTH FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL32</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-192 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MCDANIEL, DEANDRE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CLEMSON</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB33</td><td class="column-7">SS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-193 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MCELROY, GREGORY</td><td class="column-3">GREG</td><td class="column-4">ALABAMA</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">QB10</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-194 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MCGEE, ANDREW</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA ST</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB34</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-195 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MCPHEE, PERNELL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MISSISSIPPI ST</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL33</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-196 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MILLER, BRUCE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CENTRAL FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL34</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-197 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MILLER, VONNIE</td><td class="column-3">VON</td><td class="column-4">TEXAS A&amp;M</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB19</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-198 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MOCH, DONTAY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEVADA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL35</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-199 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MOFFITT, JOHN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">WISCONSIN</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL34</td><td class="column-7">OG</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-200 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MOHAMED, MICHAEL</td><td class="column-3">MIKE</td><td class="column-4">CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB20</td><td class="column-7">IB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-201 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MOORE, DENARIUS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">TENNESSEE</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO25</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-202 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">MOORE, RAHIM</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">UCLA</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB35</td><td class="column-7">FS</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-203 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MORGAN, JOSEPH</td><td class="column-3">JOE</td><td class="column-4">WALSH</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO26</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-204 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MOTEN, ADRIAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MARYLAND</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB21</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-205 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MOUTON, JONAS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MICHIGAN</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB22</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-206 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MURDOCK, ORENTHAL</td><td class="column-3">O J</td><td class="column-4">FORT HAYS ST</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO27</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-207 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">MURRAY, DEMARCO</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OKLAHOMA</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB26</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-208 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">NEILD, CHRISTOPHER</td><td class="column-3">CHRIS</td><td class="column-4">WEST VIRGINIA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL36</td><td class="column-7">NT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-209 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">NEVIS, DRAKE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">LOUISIANA ST</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL37</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-210 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">NEWSOME, JAMAR</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CENTRAL FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO28</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-211 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">NEWTON, CAMERON</td><td class="column-3">CAM</td><td class="column-4">AUBURN</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">QB11</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-212 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">NEWTON, DEREK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARKANSAS ST</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL35</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-213 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">O'DOWD, KRISTOFER</td><td class="column-3">KRIS</td><td class="column-4">SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL36</td><td class="column-7">OC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-214 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">OORDT, SCHUYLAR</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTHERN IOWA</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE9</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-215 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">OZOUGWU, CHETA</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">RICE</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL38</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-216 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PAEA, STEPHEN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OREGON ST</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL39</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-217 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PARKER, MARTIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">RICHMOND</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL40</td><td class="column-7">DT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-218 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PATRICK, JOHNNY</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">LOUISVILLE</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB36</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-219 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PAUL, NILES</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NEBRASKA</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO29</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-220 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PERSON, MICHAEL</td><td class="column-3">MIKE</td><td class="column-4">MONTANA ST</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL37</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-221 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">PETERSON, PATRICK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">LOUISIANA ST</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB37</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-222 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PETTIS, AUSTIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">BOISE ST</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO30</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-223 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PIANALTO, ZACK</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE10</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-224 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PILARES, KEALOHA</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">HAWAII</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO31</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-225 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PINKSTON, JASON</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">PITTSBURGH</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL38</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-226 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PONDER, CHRISTIAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA ST</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">QB12</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-227 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">PORTIS, JOSHUA</td><td class="column-3">JOSH</td><td class="column-4">CAL U-PENN</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">QB13</td><td class="column-7">QB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-228 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">POUNCEY, JAMES</td><td class="column-3">MIKE</td><td class="column-4">FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL39</td><td class="column-7">OC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-229 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">POWE, JERRELL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MISSISSIPPI</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL41</td><td class="column-7">NT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-230 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">POWELL, BILAL</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">LOUISVILLE</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB27</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-231 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">QUINN, ROBERT</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">NORTH CAROLINA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL42</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-232 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">RACKLEY, WILLIAM</td><td class="column-3">WILL</td><td class="column-4">LEHIGH</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL40</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-233 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">REED, BROOKS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARIZONA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL43</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-234 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">REED, D'AUNDRE</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">ARIZONA</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL44</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-235 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">REID, JAH</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">CENTRAL FLORIDA</td><td class="column-5">2</td><td class="column-6">OL41</td><td class="column-7">OT</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-236 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">REISNER, ALLEN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">IOWA</td><td class="column-5">3</td><td class="column-6">TE11</td><td class="column-7">TE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-237 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">RIDLEY, STEVAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">LOUISIANA ST</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB28</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-238 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ROBINSON, ALDRICK</td><td class="column-3">AL</td><td class="column-4">SMU</td><td class="column-5">5</td><td class="column-6">WO32</td><td class="column-7">WO</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-239 odd">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">RODGERS, JACQUIZZ</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OREGON ST</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB29</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-240 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ROGERS, JACOB</td><td class="column-3">JAKE</td><td class="column-4">CINCINNATI</td><td class="column-5">1</td><td class="column-6">PK9</td><td class="column-7">PK</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-241 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ROGERS, JUSTIN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">RICHMOND</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB38</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-242 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ROLLE, BRIAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">OHIO ST</td><td class="column-5">9</td><td class="column-6">LB23</td><td class="column-7">OB</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-243 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ROMEUS, GREGORY</td><td class="column-3">GREG</td><td class="column-4">PITTSBURGH</td><td class="column-5">8</td><td class="column-6">DL45</td><td class="column-7">DE</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-244 even">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">ROYSTER, EVAN</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">PENN ST</td><td class="column-5">6</td><td class="column-6">RB30</td><td class="column-7">OH</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-245 odd">
<td class="column-1">
</td><td class="column-2">RUCKER, CHRIS</td><td class="column-3">
</td><td class="column-4">MICHIGAN ST</td><td class="column-5">11</td><td class="column-6">DB39</td><td class="column-7">DC</td>
</tr>
<tr class="row-246 even">
<td class="column-1">*</td><td class="column-2">RUDOLPH,

nycsportzfan
02-22-2011, 03:28 AM
This is from Sideline Scouting, and its on my guy, Bilal Powell, who most know, i've been touting for some time now, as a sleeper, who became, a non sleeper, after a good Sr.Bowl, but anyways, look at these positives, and there right on, because this is exactly what i seen from him all season long.. I'm telling ya, Louisville's got some prospects this yr, that i'm really excited about, from Bilal, to Johnny Patrick to Cameron Graham..All 3of em, get me excited, but i love Bilal... Bilal to me, is the most underrated RB in this draft, hands down..


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Bilal Powell - Louisville (HT: 5-10? - WT: 204)

Combine 40: N/A - Pro Day 40: N/A - Position Rank: 10 of 35


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Positives: Excellent blend of size, speed, and overall athletic
ability... Good strength, can push defenders backwards... Home run
hitter, breaks long runs with his combination of speed and open field
moves... Tremendous short area burst makes him difficult to contain...
Has great balance, very difficult to knock down, bounces off tacklers...
Runs hard, a very aggressive runner... Came out of nowhere to win the
starting job as a senior and set the Louisville single season rushing
record with 1405 yards on only 229 carries, a startling 6.1 yards per
carry... High ceiling due to his outstanding physical gifts... Had a
very good week at the Senior Bowl.

nycsportzfan
02-22-2011, 03:39 AM
A Guy i also think is being overlooked because of a slight lack of speed, that i quite honestly, didn't see that often in atual games, is Armon Binns... Heres a guy, that just tore up the college ranks, and everytime i seen him, he impressed me, and i'm seeing him in the 6th=7th rd range...lol What a joke! Mark my words, who ever gets this big strong, great hands, WR, is getting a sleeper, who gots num 2 type WR talent.. When i look at Binns, i see a Marty Booker type WR, which some might say, thats not that good, but hes very solid, with good hands, and can be any teams num 2, and i think his ceiling is of a num 1, but marty booker is what he settles into, if nothing else works out for him, with any luck, hes gonna be sensational...

Mark it down, u heard it here first..Armon Binns is gonna be a NFL player for along time, and a very good one at that..

thegreatone
02-22-2011, 11:01 AM
This is from Sideline Scouting, and its on my guy, Bilal Powell, who most know, i've been touting for some time now, as a sleeper, who became, a non sleeper, after a good Sr.Bowl, but anyways, look at these positives, and there right on, because this is exactly what i seen from him all season long.. I'm telling ya, Louisville's got some prospects this yr, that i'm really excited about, from Bilal, to Johnny Patrick to Cameron Graham..All 3of em, get me excited, but i love Bilal... Bilal to me, is the most underrated RB in this draft, hands down..


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Positives: Excellent blend of size, speed, and overall athletic
ability... Good strength, can push defenders backwards... Home run
hitter, breaks long runs with his combination of speed and open field
moves... Tremendous short area burst makes him difficult to contain...
Has great balance, very difficult to knock down, bounces off tacklers...
Runs hard, a very aggressive runner... Came out of nowhere to win the
starting job as a senior and set the Louisville single season rushing
record with 1405 yards on only 229 carries, a startling 6.1 yards per
carry... High ceiling due to his outstanding physical gifts... Had a
very good week at the Senior Bowl.

what were his negatives because like ive said , my only knock from what ive seen is his vision and they didnt mention it in his positives.powell is underrated but i think taiwan jones is the the most underrated imo.

thegreatone
02-22-2011, 11:04 AM
This is from Sideline Scouting, and its on my guy, Bilal Powell, who most know, i've been touting for some time now, as a sleeper, who became, a non sleeper, after a good Sr.Bowl, but anyways, look at these positives, and there right on, because this is exactly what i seen from him all season long.. I'm telling ya, Louisville's got some prospects this yr, that i'm really excited about, from Bilal, to Johnny Patrick to Cameron Graham..All 3of em, get me excited, but i love Bilal... Bilal to me, is the most underrated RB in this draft, hands down..


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Positives: Excellent blend of size, speed, and overall athletic
ability... Good strength, can push defenders backwards... Home run
hitter, breaks long runs with his combination of speed and open field
moves... Tremendous short area burst makes him difficult to contain...
Has great balance, very difficult to knock down, bounces off tacklers...
Runs hard, a very aggressive runner... Came out of nowhere to win the
starting job as a senior and set the Louisville single season rushing
record with 1405 yards on only 229 carries, a startling 6.1 yards per
carry... High ceiling due to his outstanding physical gifts... Had a
very good week at the Senior Bowl.

what were his negatives because like ive said , my only knock from what ive seen is his vision and they didnt mention it in his positives.powell is underrated but i think taiwan jones is the the most underrated imo.
oh and my boy locke outta kentucky. VERY underrated

Redeyejedi
02-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Mason Foster vid I made</P>


Mason Foster vs Nebraska Holiday Bowl</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o71XCLuPeA8</P>

titwio
02-22-2011, 09:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJOyrM-VRrM</P>


*</P>


New Vid I made Martez Wilson vs Missouri</P>

Good vid...I'm just hoping the Redskins take Gabbert...I'm all for bring him to NFC East...He's not accurate and I think he's over rated...I think people are just in love with his size and arm strength...Much rather have him in the division than a Cam Newton..

thegreatone
02-24-2011, 08:22 AM
This is from Sideline Scouting, and its on my guy, Bilal Powell, who most know, i've been touting for some time now, as a sleeper, who became, a non sleeper, after a good Sr.Bowl, but anyways, look at these positives, and there right on, because this is exactly what i seen from him all season long.. I'm telling ya, Louisville's got some prospects this yr, that i'm really excited about, from Bilal, to Johnny Patrick to Cameron Graham..All 3of em, get me excited, but i love Bilal... Bilal to me, is the most underrated RB in this draft, hands down..


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Positives: Excellent blend of size, speed, and overall athletic
ability... Good strength, can push defenders backwards... Home run
hitter, breaks long runs with his combination of speed and open field
moves... Tremendous short area burst makes him difficult to contain...
Has great balance, very difficult to knock down, bounces off tacklers...
Runs hard, a very aggressive runner... Came out of nowhere to win the
starting job as a senior and set the Louisville single season rushing
record with 1405 yards on only 229 carries, a startling 6.1 yards per
carry... High ceiling due to his outstanding physical gifts... Had a
very good week at the Senior Bowl.

what were his negatives because like ive said , my only knock from what ive seen is his vision and they didnt mention it in his positives.powell is underrated but i think taiwan jones is the the most underrated imo.


here ya go like i said...sub-par vision

Cuts are a little too upright and slow at the line of scrimmage... Not
very creative in the lane... Has an upright running style, absorbs a lot
of big hits and leaves the football exposed far too often... Lacks
vision, consistently outruns his blockers and misses cutback lanes...
Dealt with a lingering knee injury in 2010... Only has one year of solid
production, will have to prove that this year wasn't an aberration...
Likely to settle in as a change of pace back at the next level with his
upright running style, won't be able to carry the load... Just an
average receiver out of the backfield... Is left handed and heavily
favors carrying the ball in his left arm, likes to run to the left side
of the field and doesn't always change hands when he goes to the right
side of the field, leaving the ball exposed for defenders.

Redeyejedi
02-26-2011, 01:29 PM
I know everyone is in 2011 draft mode but im scribeing plays to make highlight videos of some 2012 players and thos kid Devonte Holloman S from SCcan really play. Mark Barron however looks horrible. I scribed 1 quarter so far and he has had a number of miscues. Devin Taylor the SCsoon to be Junior DE/SOLB 6-7 249 looks like he could be in for a monster year next season after 8 sacks in 2010. He looks comfortable standing up and in coverage should be looked at as a 3-4 OLB as well.</P>


I was watching a virginia game this past yr, and trying to do some homework on Ras I Dowling, and this kid CHASE MINNIFIELD caught my eye... I would love to see some more video on this ballhawk... Kids got solid listed size and looks pretty big enough in person.. One things for sure, hes the guy that killed it when i was looking at RAS, and i am expecting him to be in RD 1 consideration next yr.. Check him out if u could, redeye....
Here is the Chase Minnifield Vid from the USC game I was breaking down for Tyron Smith</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhh0GVu08Xs</P>

Neverend
02-26-2011, 01:34 PM
This is from Sideline Scouting, and its on my guy, Bilal Powell, who most know, i've been touting for some time now, as a sleeper, who became, a non sleeper, after a good Sr.Bowl, but anyways, look at these positives, and there right on, because this is exactly what i seen from him all season long.. I'm telling ya, Louisville's got some prospects this yr, that i'm really excited about, from Bilal, to Johnny Patrick to Cameron Graham..All 3of em, get me excited, but i love Bilal... Bilal to me, is the most underrated RB in this draft, hands down..



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Positives: Excellent blend of size, speed, and overall athletic ability... Good strength, can push defenders backwards... Home run hitter, breaks long runs with his combination of speed and open field moves... Tremendous short area burst makes him difficult to contain... Has great balance, very difficult to knock down, bounces off tacklers... Runs hard, a very aggressive runner... Came out of nowhere to win the starting job as a senior and set the Louisville single season rushing record with 1405 yards on only 229 carries, a startling 6.1 yards per carry... High ceiling due to his outstanding physical gifts... Had a very good week at the Senior Bowl.
what were his negatives because like ive said , my only knock from what ive seen is his vision and they didnt mention it in his positives.powell is underrated but i think taiwan jones is the the most underrated imo.


here ya go like i said...sub-par vision

Cuts are a little too upright and slow at the line of scrimmage... Not very creative in the lane... Has an upright running style, absorbs a lot of big hits and leaves the football exposed far too often... Lacks vision, consistently outruns his blockers and misses cutback lanes... Dealt with a lingering knee injury in 2010... Only has one year of solid production, will have to prove that this year wasn't an aberration... Likely to settle in as a change of pace back at the next level with his upright running style, won't be able to carry the load... Just an average receiver out of the backfield... Is left handed and heavily favors carrying the ball in his left arm, likes to run to the left side of the field and doesn't always change hands when he goes to the right side of the field, leaving the ball exposed for defenders.
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yeap, billal powell reminds me a little bit of lesean mccoy too. an extremely talented runner but he has questionable vision and is always looking to bounce it outside for the big play and outruns his blockers too.</P>

Redeyejedi
02-28-2011, 10:06 PM
Someone requested UCF corner Josh Robinson vs Aj Greenin the Liberty Bowlso here it is.I cant remember what thread the request was on and who made it but i hope they see it here</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiO997bxcZY</P>

Redeyejedi
03-01-2011, 09:40 PM
This is the game that soured me on Brandon Burton</P>


Brandon Burton vs Boise State</P>


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8HHyOuT4NM</P>

lawl
03-02-2011, 12:58 AM
Someone requested UCF corner Josh Robinson vs Aj Greenin the Liberty Bowlso here it is.I cant remember what thread the request was on and who made it but i hope they see it here</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiO997bxcZY</P>


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Thanks, appreciate it.</P>

nycsportzfan
03-02-2011, 06:22 AM
anyone know anything about Cortez Allen CB Citadel? I was just wondering, because going into this yr, it seemed he was the Num 1 Small School Defensive Player, that i was hereing about... I believe, i seen him in the 2nd rd area, and now, it seems i can't find and haven't heard all that much about em... I thought he was this yrs Akwasi-owusuh-ansah..... I know, hes got the size, and solid speed, but i don't know much else... I see hes in the like 6-7 rd area now, on most draft sites.. Anyone know anything about em?
Found this article about em.. Season kinda wasen't anything that jumped out at you this past yr, hence, probably the lack of buzz... But, he will be at the Scouting Combine, and i'll be very interested in seeing how he does...

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Scouting Combine. Announced this week, Allen will be one of over 300 of
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Feb. 23 through March 1, 2011 in Indianapolis, Ind.</p>


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adding 22 total tackles and two interceptions for 18 yards. In 2009,
Allen recorded two interceptions for 112 yards against Samford, marking
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Arizona Cardinals' wide receiver <span class="duplicatename">Andre Roberts</span> (http://www.citadelsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;ATCLID=1524 412&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700)
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as the 88<sup>th</sup> pick in the third round of the 2010 NFL Draft.</p>


For more information on Bulldog Football, visit the official website of The Citadel Athletics at www.CitadelSports.com (http://www.citadelsports.com/?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700) or follow the Bulldogs on Twitter at www.twitter.com/citadelsports (http://www.twitter.com/citadelsports?SPSID=43210&amp;SPID=3829&amp;DB_OEM_ID=9700 ).</p>
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well, i guess we got to see alittle bit why this kids name was a HOT small school prospect before the season began... He had a very good combine, and certainly is back on teams radars if he ever was off em...

Redeyejedi
03-02-2011, 09:54 AM
This Vid is private but I already had the game transcribed. I will probably be called a loser again for posting it but I hope U guys enjoy it</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AcHZgtyOeE</P>


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Drake Nevis vs Alabama</P>

nycsportzfan
03-02-2011, 06:13 PM
This Vid is private but I already had the game transcribed. I will probably be called a loser again for posting it but I hope U guys enjoy it</p>


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Drake Nevis vs Alabama</p> sensational tape of nevis... I freaking love this kid.. I'd love to somehow come away with him and another player in RD 2... I was reading that Nevis would be a sure fire 1st rder if there wasen't so many teams picking 3/4 toward the end of rd 1, and nevis most likely, strickly going to a 4/3 team... There was one point, we were talking about nevis like we were about fairley.. Nevis is relentless.. I really think someones getting a 1st rd talent in rd 2 with him, unless he actually sneaks into the back end of RD 1, which is possible.. He ate up Bama interior..

nycsportzfan
03-02-2011, 06:16 PM
man, Skip Bayless and Chris Broussard really downed the Combine today on First and ten, saying it matters very little to not at all.. Bayless says the combine almost hurts the scouts and GM's more then helps em.. He said, just look at the tapes... Either u can play or u can't... He brought up, the running in shorts in a straight line as one part of the sillyness, becasue u simply don't do anyhting like that in football, and if guys can run fast there, but don't make plays, so what?

I dissagree, that its not important at all, but i actually did think this to a degree all ready, that sometimes the combine does hurt scouts and GM's some, becasue they get away from the most important thing, which is how these guys played on the field..

BlueSanta
03-02-2011, 07:00 PM
man, Skip Bayless and Chris Broussard really downed the Combine today on First and ten, saying it matters very little to not at all.. Bayless says the combine almost hurts the scouts and GM's more then helps em.. He said, just look at the tapes... Either u can play or u can't... He brought up, the running in shorts in a straight line as one part of the sillyness, becasue u simply don't do anyhting like that in football, and if guys can run fast there, but don't make plays, so what?

I dissagree, that its not important at all, but i actually did think this to a degree all ready, that sometimes the combine does hurt scouts and GM's some, becasue they get away from the most important thing, which is how these guys played on the field..

Tape &gt; all.

But the combine does matter. I am willing to bet anything that the combine helps coaches/teams/gms more than it hurts. At least for the good organizations. Sure, it may hurt Al Davis and even the cowboys.

But it has helped a lot of teams and people always forget the good examples of teams and players that were helped by the combine. Most recently, I could refer to Chris Johnson who was not a 1st round selection before his combine made everyone go back to the tape.

I get annoyed with Skip Bayless. He trashes everything and everyone till the subject is someone right in front of his face, then he is super nice.

I would argue that the NFL organizations have control over who gets invited to the combine each year, and the list has been steadily growing despite the number of draft rounds shrinking over the years. I would argue that might indicate the GMs/coaches and teams think its very important.

Redeyejedi
03-02-2011, 07:26 PM
This Vid is private but I already had the game transcribed. I will probably be called a loser again for posting it but I hope U guys enjoy it</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AcHZgtyOeE</P>


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Drake Nevis vs Alabama</P>


sensational tape of nevis... I freaking love this kid.. I'd love to somehow come away with him and another player in RD 2... I was reading that Nevis would be a sure fire 1st rder if there wasen't so many teams picking 3/4 toward the end of rd 1, and nevis most likely, strickly going to a 4/3 team... There was one point, we were talking about nevis like we were about fairley.. Nevis is relentless.. I really think someones getting a 1st rd talent in rd 2 with him, unless he actually sneaks into the back end of RD 1, which is possible.. He ate up Bama interior..
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Yeah I cant make SEC videos public on youtube but he was so good in this game I wanted to put it up. Im going to throw one up of Jones vs Peterson as well. </P>


Im watching the Nebraska- Oklahoma game right and a couple things ive noticed. The other Lewis on the team #56 Ronnell Lewis is pretty dam good.They line him up all over and he is very impressive and looks like a solid SOLB prospect. Pierre Allen is adecent late round option for 4-3 teams as a Strongside end. He isnt very flashy but performs his assignments well.He is a very good run defender and forces a lot of plays to the inside. Very good contain defender that certainly helped build the tackle numbers of Suh and Crick by forcing plays back inside. He could carve himself out a role as a niche player in the NFL.</P>

Redeyejedi
03-02-2011, 07:31 PM
man, Skip Bayless and Chris Broussard really downed the Combine today on First and ten, saying it matters very little to not at all.. Bayless says the combine almost hurts the scouts and GM's more then helps em.. He said, just look at the tapes... Either u can play or u can't... He brought up, the running in shorts in a straight line as one part of the sillyness, becasue u simply don't do anyhting like that in football, and if guys can run fast there, but don't make plays, so what?

I dissagree, that its not important at all, but i actually did think this to a degree all ready, that sometimes the combine does hurt scouts and GM's some, becasue they get away from the most important thing, which is how these guys played on the field..
I think U can get a good feel of the DB's at the combine. Its my favorite day to watch. Corners dont really wear to much padding as it is. i like watching the Cornerbacks foot work. I think the combine translates the corners skill setpretty well.

NCGiant23
03-03-2011, 11:03 AM
man, Skip Bayless and Chris Broussard really downed the Combine today on First and ten, saying it matters very little to not at all.. Bayless says the combine almost hurts the scouts and GM's more then helps em.. He said, just look at the tapes... Either u can play or u can't... He brought up, the running in shorts in a straight line as one part of the sillyness, becasue u simply don't do anyhting like that in football, and if guys can run fast there, but don't make plays, so what?

I dissagree, that its not important at all, but i actually did think this to a degree all ready, that sometimes the combine does hurt scouts and GM's some, becasue they get away from the most important thing, which is how these guys played on the field..
Your first mistake was listening to Skip Bayless. The guy is an absolute moron.

Neverend
03-03-2011, 04:57 PM
Speaking of drake nevis and his great burst off the ball to collapse the pocket it turns out marvin austin led all defensive lineman with in the 10-yard split with drake nevis being second. Marvin Austin could be a bigger steal down the road

nevada11
03-03-2011, 05:50 PM
Speaking of drake nevis and his great burst off the ball to collapse the pocket it turns out marvin austin led all defensive lineman with in the 10-yard split with drake nevis being second. Marvin Austin could be a bigger steal down the road</P>


No he didn't. Jaball Sheard did going on cbssports' data</P>

SEC105
03-03-2011, 06:00 PM
This Vid is private but I already had the game transcribed. I will probably be called a loser again for posting it but I hope U guys enjoy it</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AcHZgtyOeE</P>


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Drake Nevis vs Alabama</P>


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Redeyejedi......really appreciate the stuff you post on the college players. As someone who does not really follow college ball all that close till the bowl games start you info is agreat read. Same for Slipknottin and nysportsfan</P>


just wanted to let you know not a loser at all you guys are very well informed posters</P>


Thanks again SEC105</P>

Redeyejedi
03-03-2011, 06:18 PM
This Vid is private but I already had the game transcribed. I will probably be called a loser again for posting it but I hope U guys enjoy it</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AcHZgtyOeE</P>


</P>


Drake Nevis vs Alabama</P>


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Redeyejedi......really appreciate the stuff you post on the college players. As someone who does not really follow college ball all that close till the bowl games start you info is agreat read. Same for Slipknottin and nysportsfan</P>


just wanted to let you know not a loser at all you guys are very well informed posters</P>


Thanks again SEC105</P>


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Glad U enjoy I got a Mo Wilkinson one coming in a little while</P>

nycsportzfan
03-03-2011, 07:55 PM
Speaking of drake nevis and his great burst off the ball to collapse the pocket it turns out marvin austin led all defensive lineman with in the 10-yard split with drake nevis being second. Marvin Austin could be a bigger steal down the road ya, if the 10yrd split and combine stats make u a better player, i guess Marvins the better player, if Monster on field play without the charechter concerns is what u want, Drakes your guy... I really don't care about the 10yrd split.. On field play, Drakes a freaking animal.... He destroyed alot of guys going into the NFL... Nevis is explodes when he has a RB or QB in his sights...

Neverend
03-03-2011, 09:38 PM
Speaking of drake nevis and his great burst off the ball to collapse the pocket it turns out marvin austin led all defensive lineman with in the 10-yard split with drake nevis being second. Marvin Austin could be a bigger steal down the road ya, if the 10yrd split and combine stats make u a better player, i guess Marvins the better player, if Monster on field play without the charechter concerns is what u want, Drakes your guy... I really don't care about the 10yrd split.. On field play, Drakes a freaking animal.... He destroyed alot of guys going into the NFL... Nevis is explodes when he has a RB or QB in his sights...
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Oh no, dont get me wrong I love drake nevis. Just saying that marvin austin finished slightly faster. They were both the best two in that category.</P>


but yeah, drake nevis is more consistent. marvin austin only flashes his immense athletic ability and is just so inconsistent. however austin is more stronger than nevis though. the 10-yard split is important though.. its what spraked clay matthews into the first round discussion if his senior bowl didnt already and now we all see what hes doing in the nfl today</P>

Redeyejedi
03-03-2011, 10:51 PM
<SPAN class="" id=eow-title dir=ltr title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </SPAN></P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</P>

nycsportzfan
03-04-2011, 08:51 AM
Speaking of drake nevis and his great burst off the ball to collapse the pocket it turns out marvin austin led all defensive lineman with in the 10-yard split with drake nevis being second. Marvin Austin could be a bigger steal down the road ya, if the 10yrd split and combine stats make u a better player, i guess Marvins the better player, if Monster on field play without the charechter concerns is what u want, Drakes your guy... I really don't care about the 10yrd split.. On field play, Drakes a freaking animal.... He destroyed alot of guys going into the NFL... Nevis is explodes when he has a RB or QB in his sights...
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Oh no, dont get me wrong I love drake nevis. Just saying that marvin austin finished slightly faster. They were both the best two in that category.</p>


but yeah, drake nevis is more consistent. marvin austin only flashes his immense athletic ability and is just so inconsistent. however austin is more stronger than nevis though. the 10-yard split is important though.. its what spraked clay matthews into the first round discussion if his senior bowl didnt already and now we all see what hes doing in the nfl today</p> I was gonna say before u did, the Sr Bowl helped Matthews more then anything, and that was good, because it was on field stuff, which i love.. Much better then a Workout...lol Not to mention, its not like Matthews didn't have 1st rd grades all ready, he was a 1st-2nd rd graded player months before the draft, and didn't go till pick 26... Kinda was a spot i think u could've seen him going anyways...

Either way, i like Austin and Nevis as well, but man, there is no arguement between the guy who right now, would be the better pick,a nd thats drake nevis, hands down... Turn on the TV, and watch some LSU games, and watch Austin at UNC&lt; when he was playing, and tell me who stands out more...lol ALso, the SEC vs the ACC... Much better comp for Nevis....

Raptor22
03-04-2011, 12:34 PM
Speaking of drake nevis and his great burst off the ball to collapse the pocket it turns out marvin austin led all defensive lineman with in the 10-yard split with drake nevis being second. Marvin Austin could be a bigger steal down the road ya, if the 10yrd split and combine stats make u a better player, i guess Marvins the better player, if Monster on field play without the charechter concerns is what u want, Drakes your guy... I really don't care about the 10yrd split.. On field play, Drakes a freaking animal.... He destroyed alot of guys going into the NFL... Nevis is explodes when he has a RB or QB in his sights...
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Oh no, dont get me wrong I love drake nevis. Just saying that marvin austin finished slightly faster. They were both the best two in that category.</p>


but yeah, drake nevis is more consistent. marvin austin only flashes his immense athletic ability and is just so inconsistent. however austin is more stronger than nevis though. the 10-yard split is important though.. its what spraked clay matthews into the first round discussion if his senior bowl didnt already and now we all see what hes doing in the nfl today</p> I was gonna say before u did, the Sr Bowl helped Matthews more then anything, and that was good, because it was on field stuff, which i love.. Much better then a Workout...lol Not to mention, its not like Matthews didn't have 1st rd grades all ready, he was a 1st-2nd rd graded player months before the draft, and didn't go till pick 26... Kinda was a spot i think u could've seen him going anyways...

Either way, i like Austin and Nevis as well, but man, there is no arguement between the guy who right now, would be the better pick,a nd thats drake nevis, hands down... Turn on the TV, and watch some LSU games, and watch Austin at UNC&lt; when he was playing, and tell me who stands out more...lol ALso, the SEC vs the ACC... Much better comp for Nevis....


It definitely says something about the D-Line prospects this year when guys like Austin and Nevis are bordering on "Meh" status.

That has to factor into why they gave Cofield a 2nd round tender.

titwio
03-04-2011, 03:19 PM
<SPAN class="" id=eow-title dir=ltr title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </SPAN></P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</P>

Damn...you make good videos...

Great quality...

nevada11
03-04-2011, 03:31 PM
marvin austin only flashes his immense athletic ability and is just so inconsistent.


That sounds exactly like martez wilson. I'll use that next time. thanks</P>

nevada11
03-04-2011, 03:32 PM
<SPAN class="" id=eow-title dir=ltr title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </SPAN></P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</P>


Damn...you make good videos... Great quality...</P>


he receives his videos fromthe same source where AloAloysius gets his.</P>

slipknottin
03-04-2011, 05:31 PM
marvin austin only flashes his immense athletic ability and is just so inconsistent.


That sounds exactly like martez wilson. I'll use that next time. thanks</P>

Why are you even here? You are completely awful at player evaluation, you never actually watch any games, and you just show up to bash every player you can.

nevada11
03-04-2011, 06:38 PM
Why are you even here?</P>


Because I can and have the right too.</P>



You are completely awful at player evaluation</P>


Still wont get over our martez wilson debate? give me a break, just because you and I have different opinions that does not make you a God at player evaluation and make me awful. Grow up</P>



you never actually watch any games, and you just show up to bash every player you can.</P>


Act like an adult. I bet if I was bashing akeem ayers and praising martez wilson you wouldn't be saying that to me at all.You aren't onlya biased "scout" butyou run your opinions aboutme based on your own bias as well lololol</P>

slipknottin
03-04-2011, 06:43 PM
I have no problem with people having differing opinions, but I do have a problem with someone who is here just to stir crap up and adds nothing of value to any conversation.

nevada11
03-04-2011, 06:50 PM
I have no problem with people having differing opinions.</P>


Good, then dontbother meand critize me because I have a different opinion than you. I lol'd how you talk about me "stirring up crap" but you just randomly just took a shot at me</P>

Redeyejedi
03-04-2011, 06:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3WmbFXy9cE</P>


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Patrick Peterson vs Alabama</P>

slipknottin
03-04-2011, 06:52 PM
I have no problem with people having differing opinions.</P>


Good, then dont*bother me*and critize me because I have a different opinion than you. I lol'd how you talk about me "stirring up crap" but you just randomly just took a shot at me</P>

I'm not criticizing you because you have a different opinion, Im criticizing you because your opinions are baseless. You come in here talking about how such and such a player "sucks", but you haven't watched any film of them, have listened to no experts, nothing.

It's completely useless and it's just distracting everyone here from actual information.

nevada11
03-04-2011, 06:59 PM
] I'm not criticizing you because you have a different opinion. , Im criticizing you because your opinions are baseless. </P>


Yeah, really? Like I said, if I say akeem ayers was terrible (which i have seen some others here say) and call martez wilson the best lb out of the draft since patrick willis (which i have seen some others here say), I'm a genius to you. Since I say martez wilson won't be a dominant player, my opinion is baseless while I have brought facts to present my opinion, examples, and recent instances to help my argument against martez wilson(and you ignore it because you know I'm right). But noooo, its just all baseless. I can't believe I am even bothere here</P>



You come in here talking about how such and such a player "sucks", but you haven't watched any film of them, have listened to no experts, nothing. .</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>yeaa suuuure, you know all about me and I have said every single player in this draft sucks.</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000000>I'm done with this and debating with you. You love martez wilson, I hate him. Lets move and get on with our lives. Like i said, i'm done with you and this topic</FONT></P>

titwio
03-04-2011, 07:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3WmbFXy9cE</P>


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Patrick Peterson vs Alabama</P>

From what I see...Julio won that battle...Seems like Peterson relies a lot on his speed to bail him out on some plays...

To be honest... I think Jimmy Smith has better coverage skills...Peterson just brings more to the table though...

Redeyejedi
03-04-2011, 07:10 PM
<SPAN class="" id=eow-title dir=ltr title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </SPAN></P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</P> Damn...you make good videos... Great quality...Thanks glad U enjoy them

Redeyejedi
03-04-2011, 07:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3WmbFXy9cE</P>


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Patrick Peterson vs Alabama</P> From what I see...Julio won that battle...Seems like Peterson relies a lot on his speed to bail him out on some plays... To be honest... I think Jimmy Smith has better coverage skills...Peterson just brings more to the table though...The year before Peterson held him down. Julio seemed very motivated to get the best of Peterson in this game. This I would say was Petersons worst College game and it wasnt really that bad. A lot of the throws were short timing throwsthat Mccelroy threw perfectly

nevada11
03-04-2011, 07:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3WmbFXy9cE</P>


</P>


Patrick Peterson vs Alabama</P>


From what I see...Julio won that battle...Seems like Peterson relies a lot on his speed to bail him out on some plays... To be honest... I think Jimmy Smith has better coverage skills...Peterson just brings more to the table though...The year before Peterson held him down. Julio seemed very motivated to get the best of Peterson in this game</P>


Everyone is always downing on prince for his game against blackmon but i believe p.peterson had an equally bad game against alabama. </P>

Redeyejedi
03-04-2011, 07:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3WmbFXy9cE</P>


</P>


Patrick Peterson vs Alabama</P>


From what I see...Julio won that battle...Seems like Peterson relies a lot on his speed to bail him out on some plays... To be honest... I think Jimmy Smith has better coverage skills...Peterson just brings more to the table though...The year before Peterson held him down. Julio seemed very motivated to get the best of Peterson in this game</P>


Everyone is always downing on prince for his game against blackmon but i believe p.peterson had an equally bad game against alabama. </P>


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This was Petersons worst collegegame. This was the only game I ever saw that he was targeted like this. The Julio plays were all short passes and he did a good job of getting him to the ground immediately. </P>

Redeyejedi
03-04-2011, 08:03 PM
wrong thread</P>

Redeyejedi
03-04-2011, 08:07 PM
Posted in the wrong thread again</P>

Redeyejedi
03-05-2011, 05:46 PM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</P>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</P>


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Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</P>

tonyt830
03-05-2011, 05:59 PM
<span class="" id="eow-title" dir="ltr" title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </span></p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</p>

Damn...you make good videos...

Great quality...yeah thanks redeye, much appreciated!

That Wilkerson is a pretty disruptive force in on the D-line.

A lot of us appreciate you putting those vids together, although there is some "certain" haters that say you have too much time on your hands or have no life.

infinite420
03-05-2011, 06:41 PM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</p>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</p>


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Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</p>

Some Kirkpatrick clips would be nice..........I live in Dallas and get to watch alot of TCU games.........This kid is a beast !!! Definitely my favorite center prospect...........Would love to add a Dalton to groom under Eli too.........very underrated QB prospect.......

slipknottin
03-05-2011, 09:14 PM
Yeah, really? Like I said, if I say akeem ayers was terrible (which i have seen some others here say)

that is also a completely moronic statement.

All Im saying is stop running around saying everyone sucks or is crappy, especially when you have never watched any video of any of them.

nycsportzfan
03-05-2011, 10:12 PM
Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..
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By Chad Reuter (http://www.cbssports.com/columns/writers/reuter)

<span class="fright">Tell Chad your opinion! (http://www.cbssports.com/columns/writers/reuter)</span>
Senior Analyst - NFLDraftScout.com
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The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
weeklong job interview.



The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
be."
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Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
(Texas A&amp;M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.
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Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
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A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
can switch places based on the athleticism they showed in Indy.
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The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
athletic tiebreakers.
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<table class="data" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="title"><td colspan="6">Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Risers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1242977.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Marvin Austin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1242977)</td><td align="left" width="10">DT</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">The
former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1674931.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Cameron (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1674931)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Cameron
can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
ability with the Trojans.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1623794.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Julio Jones (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623794)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Alabama</td><td align="left">The
fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
might have changed some minds.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631960.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Rahim Moore (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631960)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">UCLA</td><td align="left">In
a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1116559.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Christian Ponder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116559)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida State</td><td align="left">The
medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/players/unknown_player.gif</td><td align="left" width="90">Buster Skrine (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724363)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">Chattanooga</td><td align="left">Skrine
(pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
month.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631899.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Tyron Smith (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631899)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Even
though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
address questions about his strength.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1636732.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Todman (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1636732)</td><td align="left" width="10">RB</td><td align="left" width="100">Connecticut</td><td align="left">Todman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1692906.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">J.J. Watt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692906)</td><td align="left" width="10">DE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
athleticism.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">10.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1272548.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Martez Wilson (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272548)</td><td align="left" width="10">ILB</td><td align="left" width="100">Illinois</td><td align="left">Scouts
knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">11.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1113452.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Brooks Reed (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1113452)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Arizona</td><td align="left">Since
missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Fallers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1623785.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jon Baldwin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623785)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">At
6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
double, didn't get that done.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1273166.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Ahmad Black (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273166)</td><td align="left" width="10">SS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">Black
needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
ball skills and instincts.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1117378.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Kendric Burney (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117378)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">Small
cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
(he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
responsibilities.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1632047.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Will Hill (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632047)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">An
exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1117803.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Lance Kendricks (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117803)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">Sometimes
players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
receiving tight end at the next level.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1243888.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">John Moffitt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243888)</td><td align="left" width="10">OG</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1273186.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Cam Newton (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273186)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Auburn</td><td align="left">Teams
who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1115001.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jason Pinkston (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115001)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">The
offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
into the third round.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1123597.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jeremy Beal (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Oklahoma</td><td align="left">UCLA
linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
just got a lot tougher.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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nevada11
03-05-2011, 10:49 PM
Thank you! Akeem Ayers was excellent in the drills. He didn't time the best but he looked extremely fluid while instead Martez Wilson looked stiff.</P>


Ayers isn't going to drop far. the "smart teams" will look beyond his 4.88 40 and look at his smarts, fluidity, and playmaking ability he shows.</P>

BlueSanta
03-06-2011, 04:27 AM
Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..
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The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
weeklong job interview.



The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
be."
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Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
(Texas A&amp;M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.
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Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
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A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
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The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
athletic tiebreakers.
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<table class="data" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="title"><td colspan="6">Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Risers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1242977.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Marvin Austin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1242977)</td><td align="left" width="10">DT</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">The
former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1674931.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Cameron (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1674931)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Cameron
can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
ability with the Trojans.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1623794.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Julio Jones (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623794)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Alabama</td><td align="left">The
fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
might have changed some minds.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631960.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Rahim Moore (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631960)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">UCLA</td><td align="left">In
a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1116559.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Christian Ponder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116559)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida State</td><td align="left">The
medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/players/unknown_player.gif</td><td align="left" width="90">Buster Skrine (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724363)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">Chattanooga</td><td align="left">Skrine
(pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
month.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631899.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Tyron Smith (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631899)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Even
though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
address questions about his strength.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1636732.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Todman (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1636732)</td><td align="left" width="10">RB</td><td align="left" width="100">Connecticut</td><td align="left">Todman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1692906.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">J.J. Watt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692906)</td><td align="left" width="10">DE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
athleticism.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">10.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1272548.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Martez Wilson (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272548)</td><td align="left" width="10">ILB</td><td align="left" width="100">Illinois</td><td align="left">Scouts
knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">11.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1113452.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Brooks Reed (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1113452)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Arizona</td><td align="left">Since
missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Fallers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1623785.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jon Baldwin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623785)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">At
6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
double, didn't get that done.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1273166.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Ahmad Black (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273166)</td><td align="left" width="10">SS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">Black
needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
ball skills and instincts.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1117378.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Kendric Burney (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117378)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">Small
cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
(he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
responsibilities.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1632047.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Will Hill (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632047)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">An
exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1117803.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Lance Kendricks (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117803)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">Sometimes
players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
receiving tight end at the next level.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1243888.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">John Moffitt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243888)</td><td align="left" width="10">OG</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1273186.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Cam Newton (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273186)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Auburn</td><td align="left">Teams
who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1115001.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jason Pinkston (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115001)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">The
offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
into the third round.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1123597.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jeremy Beal (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Oklahoma</td><td align="left">UCLA
linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
just got a lot tougher.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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Hmm, that not the way I read that. They only name 1 person per position and they say it could have been Ayers too. When your the guy who came a close 2nd in a contest to determine the OLB who sucked the most, its not a good thing.

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03-06-2011, 04:56 AM
Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..
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The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
weeklong job interview.



The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
be."
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Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
(Texas A&amp;M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.
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Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
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A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
can switch places based on the athleticism they showed in Indy.
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The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
athletic tiebreakers.
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<table class="data" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="title"><td colspan="6">Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Risers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1242977.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Marvin Austin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1242977)</td><td align="left" width="10">DT</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">The
former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1674931.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Cameron (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1674931)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Cameron
can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
ability with the Trojans.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1623794.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Julio Jones (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623794)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Alabama</td><td align="left">The
fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
might have changed some minds.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631960.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Rahim Moore (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631960)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">UCLA</td><td align="left">In
a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1116559.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Christian Ponder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116559)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida State</td><td align="left">The
medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/players/unknown_player.gif</td><td align="left" width="90">Buster Skrine (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724363)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">Chattanooga</td><td align="left">Skrine
(pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
month.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631899.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Tyron Smith (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631899)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Even
though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
address questions about his strength.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1636732.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Todman (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1636732)</td><td align="left" width="10">RB</td><td align="left" width="100">Connecticut</td><td align="left">Todman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1692906.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">J.J. Watt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692906)</td><td align="left" width="10">DE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
athleticism.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">10.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1272548.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Martez Wilson (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272548)</td><td align="left" width="10">ILB</td><td align="left" width="100">Illinois</td><td align="left">Scouts
knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">11.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1113452.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Brooks Reed (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1113452)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Arizona</td><td align="left">Since
missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Fallers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1623785.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jon Baldwin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623785)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">At
6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
double, didn't get that done.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1273166.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Ahmad Black (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273166)</td><td align="left" width="10">SS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">Black
needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
ball skills and instincts.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1117378.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Kendric Burney (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117378)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">Small
cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
(he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
responsibilities.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1632047.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Will Hill (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632047)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">An
exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1117803.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Lance Kendricks (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117803)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">Sometimes
players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
receiving tight end at the next level.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1243888.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">John Moffitt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243888)</td><td align="left" width="10">OG</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1273186.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Cam Newton (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273186)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Auburn</td><td align="left">Teams
who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1115001.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jason Pinkston (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115001)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">The
offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
into the third round.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1123597.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jeremy Beal (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Oklahoma</td><td align="left">UCLA
linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
just got a lot tougher.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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<font size="3">Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.</font>

BlueSanta
03-06-2011, 05:04 AM
<font size="3">Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.</font>


Ya, I said it in other threads for some time. I think Ponder is going to make some team VERY happy. The only thing that will hold him back is if the Doc's didnt like what they saw in his elbow. His game translates to the NFL very well with 1 exception. He has to learn to slide more or he will get his head removed.

heavyhitter
03-06-2011, 05:22 AM
<font size="3">Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.</font>


Ya, I said it in other threads for some time. I think Ponder is going to make some team VERY happy. The only thing that will hold him back is if the Doc's didnt like what they saw in his elbow. His game translates to the NFL very well with 1 exception. He has to learn to slide more or he will get his head removed.
<font size="3">Yea- I think most scouts are saying he'll fit well in a west coast offense. Do you follow Florida State football?</font>

heavyhitter
03-06-2011, 05:35 AM
<span class="" id="eow-title" dir="ltr" title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </span></p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</p>

Damn...you make good videos...

Great quality...<font size="3">I was about to say the same thing. The content and quality of these videos is on point. </font>

heavyhitter
03-06-2011, 05:42 AM
<span class="" id="eow-title" dir="ltr" title="Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan">Muhammad Wilkerson vs Central Michigan </span></p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr2mYkCKs90</p><font size="3">I could be wrong, but I think Mayock compared Wilkerson to Linval Joseph at the combine during drills. That's not a bad comparison if you ask me.</font>

Redeyejedi
03-06-2011, 08:06 AM
<FONT size=3>Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.</FONT>


Ya, I said it in other threads for some time. I think Ponder is going to make some team VERY happy. The only thing that will hold him back is if the Doc's didnt like what they saw in his elbow. His game translates to the NFL very well with 1 exception. He has to learn to slide more or he will get his head removed.
<FONT size=3>Yea- I think most scouts are saying he'll fit well in a west coast offense. Do you follow Florida State football?</FONT>
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Im going to get up Nigel Bradham and Brandon Jenkin vids eventually</P>

titwio
03-06-2011, 08:45 AM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</P>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</P>


*</P>


Are U guys interested in* Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</P>

I love how this guy is all over the field...

This was the LB I wanted the Giants to pick up...

Great talent!

thegreatone
03-06-2011, 08:59 AM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</p>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</p>


</p>


Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</p>

I love how this guy is all over the field...

This was the LB I wanted the Giants to pick up...

Great talent!id love a kirkpatrick vid.

Neverend
03-06-2011, 02:50 PM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</P>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</P>


</P>


Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</P>


I love how this guy is all over the field... This was the LB I wanted the Giants to pick up... Great talent!</P>


Although that wasnt agreat game from him i love lewis too. so instinctive and always around the ball and hes a great athlete. Unfortunately i think lewis could see a greg jones-like fall next year, i dont think he is as big as he is listed. He gets pushed around against blockers and is a little small. We'll see what happens next year but he needs to get off blocks better. </P>

Redeyejedi
03-06-2011, 02:52 PM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</P>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</P>


</P>


Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</P>


I love how this guy is all over the field... This was the LB I wanted the Giants to pick up... Great talent!</P>


Although that wasnt agreat game from him i love lewis too. so instinctive and always around the ball and hes a great athlete. Unfortunately i think lewis could see a greg jones-like fall next year, i dont think he is as big as he is listed. He gets pushed around against blockers and is a little small. We'll see what happens next year but he needs to get off blocks better. </P>He did come away with 3 turnovers

nycsportzfan
03-06-2011, 10:11 PM
Heres Rob Rangs latest Risers/Fallers list, and notice no Akeem Ayers on it, and for the exact reason i thougth he wasen't on all the lists for fallers after combine, because he was very good in the Drills...

Man, Jordan Todman looks like a Good one, as well.... Actually, its a solid crop of RB's this yr, from Ingram and Leshoure, to Vereen and Powell, and eveything in between.. i'm surpised he didn't have Roy Helu on his riser list..
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The 2011 Scouting Combine concluded March 1, as 330 prospects were
poked, prodded, measured and most of them timed by NFL teams in a
weeklong job interview.



The vast majority of players in Indianapolis turned out to be, with all
apologies to former NFL coach Dennis Green, "who we thought they would
be."
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Many top 10 prospects, including CB Prince Amukamara (Nebraska), DT
Marcell Dareus (Alabama), DT Nick Fairley (Auburn), OLB Von Miller
(Texas A&amp;M), CB Patrick Peterson (LSU) all proved themselves elite
athletes through their timed runs and work in position drills, while
marginal prospects looked, well, marginal.
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Some people will add some of the above players to lists of players who
helped themselves in Indy, and others will put North Carolina DE/OLB
Robert Quinn and Georgia WR A.J. Green to their list of prospects
hurting themselves with their performances. But scouts will review game
film on those players and it's doubtful their place on draft boards will
change.
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A few players did manage to help or hurt their draft stock during the
Combine. As has been the case, similarly-valued players at a position
can switch places based on the athleticism they showed in Indy.
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The following 20 players either pushed ahead of other prospects with
like production, or fell behind other players on draft boards by losing
athletic tiebreakers.
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<table class="data" width="100%"><tbody><tr class="title"><td colspan="6">Risers and Fallers - Chad Reuter -- (Updated 3/1/2011)</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Risers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1242977.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Marvin Austin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1242977)</td><td align="left" width="10">DT</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">The
former Tar Heel is trying to overcome concerns about his 2010
suspension, which was set down by Butch Davis before the NCAA made the
call, and his inconsistent production as a junior. His play at the
East-West Shrine Game, as well as his 4.9 40, 38 reps of 225 pounds and
hustle in drills Feb. 28 at the Combine could allow him to sneak into
the top 40 to a team willing to take a chance on his talent.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1674931.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Cameron (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1674931)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Cameron
can thank New Orleans' Jimmy Graham for getting the strongest push with
his workout despite the strong performances of fellow tight ends Virgil
Green (Nevada) and Rob Housler (Florida Atlantic). All three ran in the
high 4.5s or low 4.6s and lifted well for their 6-4, 250-pound frames.
But scouts will remember the success former Miami (Fla.) basketball and
football star Graham had with the Saints and see Cameron's two-sport
ability with the Trojans.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1623794.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Julio Jones (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623794)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Alabama</td><td align="left">The
fact Jones was among the most athletic players on the Combine field did
not surprise anyone. But his sub-4.4 40s, Combine-leading
11-foot-3-inch broad jump, and excellent 38 1/2-inch vertical were made
more impressive considering he performed well despite a fractured foot.
Teams might continue to have Green as the No. 1 receiver on their board
when they study the film, but Jones certainly closed any gap -- and
might have changed some minds.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631960.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Rahim Moore (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631960)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">UCLA</td><td align="left">In
a weak safety class, teams were very interested in seeing Moore's
athleticism. His mid-4.5 40 time, as well as the range and ball skills
he showed in drills, might overcome any questions scouts have about his
physicality to push him into the top 40 picks.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1116559.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Christian Ponder (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116559)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida State</td><td align="left">The
medical exam results from Indianapolis -- and likely follow-ups there
in the months ahead -- will be crucial to Ponder's stock. However, he
was the most accurate and polished passer in throwing sessions Saturday,
and showed good athleticism when running. Measuring 6-2 with 10
1/4-inch hands also helped his cause.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/players/unknown_player.gif</td><td align="left" width="90">Buster Skrine (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724363)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">Chattanooga</td><td align="left">Skrine
(pronounced "screen") joined fellow SoCon corner Cortez Allen (4.4 40s
at 6-1, 197) in impressing scouts by running in the 4.3s and adding
extremely quick feet in drills to some good tape. Allen (East-West
Shrine) and Skrine (NFLPA Game) looked solid at all-star games last
month.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1631899.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Tyron Smith (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631899)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Southern California</td><td align="left">Even
though Smith did not run because of postseason surgery on a meniscus,
the fact he weighed in at 307 pounds, measured 36 1/4-inch arms and
bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times gave him a bounce heading into his pro
day on March 30. Honorable mention here goes to Boston College tackle
Anthony Castonzo, who displayed excellent movement and put up 28 reps to
address questions about his strength.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1636732.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jordan Todman (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1636732)</td><td align="left" width="10">RB</td><td align="left" width="100">Connecticut</td><td align="left">Todman's 4.4 40 at 5-10, 203, helped separate him from other talented but small backs who struggled to break 4.6.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1692906.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">J.J. Watt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692906)</td><td align="left" width="10">DE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
host of defensive ends put up great numbers in Indy, including Ryan
Kerrigan (Purdue) and Cameron Jordan (California). But at 6-5 3/8, 290
pounds, Watt ran in the mid-4.8s, put up 34 reps and joined Jordan with
the biggest hands among defensive linemen (11 1/8 inches). All three DEs
should be top 20 picks when combining their exceptional tape with the
athleticism.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">10.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1272548.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Martez Wilson (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272548)</td><td align="left" width="10">ILB</td><td align="left" width="100">Illinois</td><td align="left">Scouts
knew Wilson had elite closing speed from watching his 2010 game film --
but sub-4.5 40s at 6-4, 250, highlighted that point. Now only concerns
about his 2009 neck injury would potentially keep him out of the top 40
selections as either a 3-4 inside or outside linebacker.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">11.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1113452.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Brooks Reed (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1113452)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Arizona</td><td align="left">Since
missing the 2009 season due to injury, Reed has continued to improve
his draft stock. He looked strong as a pass rusher at the Senior Bowl,
then ran sub-4.7 40s at 263 pounds and looked very fluid in position
drills furthering the idea he will move to linebacker at the next level.
He's a second-round pick waiting to happen.</td></tr><tr class="row1" id="special" align="right"><td colspan="6" class="subtitle" align="left">Fallers</td></tr><tr class="label"><td>Rank</td><td>Picture</td><td>Player</td><td>Pos.</td><td>School</td><td>Summary</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">1.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1623785.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jon Baldwin (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1623785)</td><td align="left" width="10">WR</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">At
6-4 3/8, 228, a 4.5 40 is not bad -- unless you've been telling people
you plan to run in the 4.3's. His performance in position drills was
less than inspiring, as well, with poor footwork on most routes and
inconsistent hands. Given scouts concerns about work ethic and attitude,
Baldwin needed to hit a home run at the Combine to be considered a
first-round lock; his performance in Indianapolis, more of a ground-rule
double, didn't get that done.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">2.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1273166.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Ahmad Black (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273166)</td><td align="left" width="10">SS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">Black
needed to be fast if teams were to take a chance on his playmaking
ability in the top 75; being small (5-9 1/4, 186) and slow (4.7 40s) is
not a good combination. But his fall won't be as great as teams expect,
as smart teams will go back to game tape to re-discover his toughness,
ball skills and instincts.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">3.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1117378.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Kendric Burney (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117378)</td><td align="left" width="10">CB</td><td align="left" width="100">North Carolina</td><td align="left">Small
cornerbacks -- Burney measured at 5-9, 186 -- can't afford to be slow
(he ran 4.7 40s) if they want to be top 100 selections. Burney showed
ball skills in drills, but even teams running zone schemes rely on their
corners to have recovery speed and run with corners when they have deep
responsibilities.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">4.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1632047.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Will Hill (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632047)</td><td align="left" width="10">FS</td><td align="left" width="100">Florida</td><td align="left">An
exceptional Combine could have made scouts forget the junior Gator's
off-field issues and the fact he didn't start regularly until 2010. He
did not separate himself from the crowd in a sparse mid-round safety
group, running in the 4.6's and looking stiff and slow in drills, making
scouts wonder if they are better off waiting to sign him after the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">5.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1117803.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Lance Kendricks (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117803)</td><td align="left" width="10">TE</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">Sometimes
players don't lose ground on draft boards by putting up poor numbers,
but others at the position just make cases to jump them. Kendricks was
very average (4.75 40) in comparison to Cameron, Green and Housler, and
may end up a fourth-round pick instead of a late third-rounder like
former teammate Travis Beckum (Giants). He's still likely to be a good
receiving tight end at the next level.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">6.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1243888.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">John Moffitt (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1243888)</td><td align="left" width="10">OG</td><td align="left" width="100">Wisconsin</td><td align="left">A
second Badger who failed to take a step forward, Moffitt's 5.55 40,
slow agility numbers and relatively weak 23 reps (Colorado CB Jimmy
Smith did 24) might make him an unlikely target in the top half of the
draft.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">7.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/players/60x80/1273186.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Cam Newton (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1273186)</td><td align="left" width="10">QB</td><td align="left" width="100">Auburn</td><td align="left">Teams
who liked Newton coming into the Combine still like him, and those who
don't believe he can transition to the NFL smoothly will continue to
believe that as they left Indianapolis. It would be difficult not to
list him as a faller, however, because of his uncomfortable footwork in
dropping back and inaccurate throws at the Scouting Combine. He did not
impress most teams who interviewed him during the week. It's still
likely, however, that a team will take him very early in the draft
because he's just scratching the surface of his amazing potential.</td></tr><tr class="row1" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">8.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1115001.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jason Pinkston (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115001)</td><td align="left" width="10">OT</td><td align="left" width="100">Pittsburgh</td><td align="left">The
offensive tackle class is quite crowded in the first two rounds of the
draft, so Pinkston's poor measurements (under 6-3 1/2), times (5.47 40),
and footwork in workouts might force him to the end of the line -- and
into the third round.</td></tr><tr class="row2" align="right"><td align="left" width="10">9.</td><td align="center" width="10">http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/football/nfl/players/60x80/1123597.jpg</td><td align="left" width="90">Jeremy Beal (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123597)</td><td align="left" width="10">OLB</td><td align="left" width="100">Oklahoma</td><td align="left">UCLA
linebacker Akeem Ayers could be listed here with his 4.8 40s, but his
work in position drills was good and he can make up ground on his pro
day. Beal, however, will find it difficult to overcome running 5.0-plus
40s after not looking explosive at the Senior Bowl. Teams looking for
hard workers outside, like the Patriots and Steelers, could still value
his hustle and production on film--but finding a spot in the top 100
just got a lot tougher.</td></tr></tbody></table>

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Hmm, that not the way I read that. They only name 1 person per position and they say it could have been Ayers too. When your the guy who came a close 2nd in a contest to determine the OLB who sucked the most, its not a good thing.


no kidding... I didn't say he did good at the combine, just that his positon drills saved em, and for most people who are more about the tape, they'll take those drills into consideration alot more, because its alot closer to in game workouts, then a freaking 40time or bench press, all though, none of it, can live up to game tape.. I'm just saying, for someone who was so awful, he dosen't show up on nearly as many FALLER lists, becasue he looked very fluid and agile in Drills...

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03-06-2011, 10:22 PM
I found this site, JB Scouting, and its a fantatstic site for finding info on all the small school Prospects, and all the news on them... This is JB"s top 75, and where they will go, the best, most likeley, and worst case scenario... It also has a great Riser/Faller section, with guys i like as SLeepers, Mark Legree and Korey Lindsey on it, and Cortez allen, a guy i was very interested to know more about, also on the riser list.... Check it out if u get a chance... Josh Buchanans very Qualified.

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</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Here is a look at our updated
projections with a high and low for each player after the Combine. As
we proceed through pro days the ratings will continue to change but they
are starting to take shape to how they will begin to look in the draft
guide.
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TOP 130 BIG BOARD
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<table style="width: 980px;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<col style="width: 38pt;" width="51"> <col style="width: 45pt;" width="60"> <col style="width: 103pt;" width="137"> <col style="width: 96pt;" width="128"> <col style="width: 148pt;" width="197"> <col style="width: 43pt;" width="57"> <col style="width: 35pt;" width="47"> <col style="width: 66pt;" width="88"> <col style="width: 59pt;" width="78"> <col style="width: 59pt;" width="79"> <col style="width: 44pt;" width="58">
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<td style="height: 17.25pt; width: 38pt;" width="51" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Rank</span></td>
<td style="width: 45pt;" width="60"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Pos</span></td>
<td style="width: 103pt;" width="137"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">First Name</span></td>
<td style="width: 96pt;" width="128"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Last Name</span></td>
<td style="width: 148pt;" width="197"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">School</span></td>
<td style="width: 43pt;" width="57"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ht</span></td>
<td style="width: 35pt;" width="47"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Wt</span></td>
<td style="width: 66pt;" width="88"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">40 Time</span></td>
<td style="width: 59pt;" width="78"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Rd Proj</span></td>
<td style="width: 59pt;" width="79"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">High</span></td>
<td style="width: 44pt;" width="58"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Low</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">1</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ben</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ijalana</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Villanova</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6035</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">317</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.30/5.37</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2nd</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Early 2</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mid 3</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Edmond</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Gates</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Abilene Christian</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5116</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">192</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.31/4.37</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2nd-3rd</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mid 2</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Early 4</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">3</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">RB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Taiwan</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Jones</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Eastern Washington</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6000</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">194</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.40/4.44</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">3rd</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 2</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 5</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Korey</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Lindsey-Woods</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Southern Illinois</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5101</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">181</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.49/4.53</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 3</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 6</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OG</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Will</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Rackley</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Lehigh</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6033</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">307</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.20/5.25</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4th-5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Early 3</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 5</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Kenrick</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ellis</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hampton</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6047</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">346</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.15/5.19</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4th-5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mid 2</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 5</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Julius</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thomas</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Portland State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6045</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">246</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.68/4.70</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4th-5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 3</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 6</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">8</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Stephen</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Burton</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">West Texas A&amp;M</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6016</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">219</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.48/4.54</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4th-5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 3</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 6</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">9</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Martin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Parker</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Richmond</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6021</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">303</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.99/5.01</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 7</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">10</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Buster</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Skrine</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Chattanooga</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5094</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">186</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.29/4.36</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Early 4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">11</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">C</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brandon</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fusco</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Slippery Rock</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6040</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">306</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.15/5.21</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">12</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OG</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">David</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Arkin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Missouri State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6046</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">300</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.28/5.29</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5th-6th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Early 5</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 7</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">13</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">C</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Daniel</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Kilgore</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Appalachian State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6032</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">308</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.23/5.32</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5th-6th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mid 4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Early 7</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">14</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">QB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Pat</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Devlin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Delaware</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6033</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">225</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.87/4.89</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Late 4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">15</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mark</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">LeGree</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Appalachian State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5114</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">210</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.53/4.55</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">16</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Justin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Rogers</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Richmond</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5103</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">183</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.44/4.47</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mid 4</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">17</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cedric</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thornton</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Southern Arkansas</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6031</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">309</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.20/5.30</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6th-7th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">18</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">David</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mims</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Virginia Union</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6082</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">343</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.68/5.70</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6th-7th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
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<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">19</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OG</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Kevin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hughes</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Southeastern Louisiana</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6035</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">302</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.10/5.15</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">20</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ryan</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Jones</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Northwest Missouri State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5111</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">197</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.40/4.45</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">21</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Justin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Bartlett</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Carroll (MT)</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6007</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">238</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.75/4.80</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th-PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">22</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Frank</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Kearse</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Alabama A&amp;M</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6041</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">311</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.34/5.36</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th-PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">23</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tommy</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Irvin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Wofford</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6001</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">204</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.50/4.54</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th-PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">24</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Schuylar</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Oordt</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Northern Iowa</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6056</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">261</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.65/4.69</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th-PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">25</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cecil</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shorts III</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mount Union</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5116</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">205</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.55/4.59</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">7th-PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">26</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Trevis</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Turner</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Abilene Christian</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6067</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">342</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.40/5.43</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">27</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cortez</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Allen</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The Citadel</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6012</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">197</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.45/4.47</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">28</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Courtney</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Smith</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">South Alabama</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6040</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">220</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.56/4.63</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5-6</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">29</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">ILB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">D.J.</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Smith</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Appalachian State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5105</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">239</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.79/4.81</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">30</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Lito</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Senatus</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Western Illinois</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6021</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">200</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.59/4.64</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">31</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ibraham</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Abdulai</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Arkansas-Pine Bluff</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6015</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">309</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.00/5.07</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">32</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Isaiah</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Abdul-Quddus</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fordham</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6000</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">200</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.47/4.50</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">33</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OLB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mike</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Gee</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Indiana (PA)</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6004</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">239</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.70/4.75</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">34</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OG</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mike</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Person</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Montana State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6044</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">299</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.12/5.19</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">35</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ron</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Parker</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Newberry</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5117</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">191</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.53/4.59</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">36</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OLB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Markell</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Carter</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Central Arkansas</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6037</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">248</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.78/4.82</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">37</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OLB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Erik</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Clanton</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The Citadel</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6024</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">238</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.68/4.75</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">38</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mike</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Higgins</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Nebraska-Omaha</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6044</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">235</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.68/4.78</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">39</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Joe</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Morgan</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Walsh (OH)</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6005</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">185</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.44/4.48</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">40</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">QB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Josh</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Portis</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">California PA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6027</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">211</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.62/4.63</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">41</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ricardo</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Lockette</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fort Valley State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6021</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">211</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.37/4.41</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6-7</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">42</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">P</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">David</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Miller</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">William &amp; Mary</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5116</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">183</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.92/4.95</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">43</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Anthony</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Walters</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Delaware</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6000</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">201</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.55/4.60</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">44</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dominique</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Johnson</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cal Poly</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6031</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">228</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.65/4.70</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">45</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">QB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Kyle</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Havens</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Massachusetts</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6030</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">220</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.90/4.95</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">46</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OLB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Jabara</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Williams</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Stephen F. Austin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6022</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">223</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.59/4.62</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">47</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">RB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">John</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Griffin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Massachusetts</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5114</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">210</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.51/4.55</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">48</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">LJ</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Castile</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Delta State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6017</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">220</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.50/4.62</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">49</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Andre</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Holmes</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hillsdale</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6043</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">210</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.52/4.53</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">50</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">O.J.</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Murdock</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fort Hays State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5104</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">197</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.53/4.55</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">51</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">H-back</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tysson</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Poots</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Southern Utah</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6016</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">220</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.65/4.70</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">52</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Marcus</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Harris</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Murray State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6007</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">187</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.53/4.60</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">53</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Perry</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Baker</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fairmont State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6002</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">167</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.42/4.45</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">54</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Stephen</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Skelton</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Fordham</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6046</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">247</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.70/4.75</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Shot Late</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">55</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">P.J.</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Gore</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mars Hill</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6022</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">190</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.50/4.55</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">56</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Eugene</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Clifford</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tennessee State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6006</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">204</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.55/4.60</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">57</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Chris</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Blohm</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Yale</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6034</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">262</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.78/4.85</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">58</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Larrone</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Moore</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Delaware State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6000</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">180</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.44/4.46</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">59</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">ILB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">John</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Eddy</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Northern Colorado</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6023</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">240</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.75/4.82</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">60</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">RB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Andre</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Harris</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Northern Colorado</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5110</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">220</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.58/4.64</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">61</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Darnel</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Williams</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">C.W. Post</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6036</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">220</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.60/4.62</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">62</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thomas</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Weaver</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Villanova</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6003</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">305</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.73/5.75</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">63</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Josh</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Gatlin</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">North Dakota State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6003</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">195</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.51/4.54</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">64</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Raymond</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Webber</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Arkansas-Pine Bluff</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6017</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">219</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.64/4.69</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">65</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">TE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Chris</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Farmer</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Villanova</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6044</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">280</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.75/4.80</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">66</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Joe</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hastings</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Washburn</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5114</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">184</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.53/4.57</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">67</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Joe</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hills</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tennessee State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6040</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">201</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.60/4.65</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">68</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DT</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Michael</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Price</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">West Virginia Wesleyan</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6007</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">293</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5.05/5.10</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">FA</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">69</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Adam</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Mims</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Furman</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5080</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">195</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.49/4.53</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tryout</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">70</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">QB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Chris</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dieker</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Southern Illinois</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6050</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">230</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.81/4.84</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tryout</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">71</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">WR</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dominique</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Barnes</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Youngstown State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5093</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">185</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.47/4.51</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tryout</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">72</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">OLB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Marc</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Schiechl</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Colorado Mines</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">6023</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">247</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.75/4.78</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tryout</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">73</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">SS</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Matthew</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Freed</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">East Stroudsburg</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5107</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">213</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.69/4.70</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tryout</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">74</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">CB</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Brandian</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Ross</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Youngstown State</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">5116</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">193</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">4.50/4.55</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PFA</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tryout</span></td>
</tr>
<tr style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23">
<td style="height: 17.25pt;" height="23"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">75</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">DE</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Courtney</span></td>
<td><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Harris</span></td></tr></tbody></table></div></td></tr></tbody></table>

nycsportzfan
03-06-2011, 10:23 PM
whoops, i didn't realize the page woulden't fit, my bad... Check the site out, its a great site...

BlueSanta
03-07-2011, 01:52 AM
no kidding... I didn't say he did good at the combine, just that his positon drills saved em, and for most people who are more about the tape, they'll take those drills into consideration alot more, because its alot closer to in game workouts, then a freaking 40time or bench press, all though, none of it, can live up to game tape.. I'm just saying, for someone who was so awful, he dosen't show up on nearly as many FALLER lists, becasue he looked very fluid and agile in Drills...


Im not saying Tape isnt king, It is for sure. I made the same argument last year regarding Brandon Spikes.

I am just saying quoting a guy who clearly mentions Ayers as a faller doesnt exactly support your claims about him not being on many fallers lists.

Btw, most lists arent out yet. People are still absorbing things. I know he fell on almost every player ranking chart Ive seen.

He most definetly hurt himself. I, like many, expected this kid to light it up at the combine.

BlueSanta
03-07-2011, 01:55 AM
whoops, i didn't realize the page woulden't fit, my bad... Check the site out, its a great site...


Thats a handy site.

nycsportzfan
03-07-2011, 02:52 AM
no kidding... I didn't say he did good at the combine, just that his positon drills saved em, and for most people who are more about the tape, they'll take those drills into consideration alot more, because its alot closer to in game workouts, then a freaking 40time or bench press, all though, none of it, can live up to game tape.. I'm just saying, for someone who was so awful, he dosen't show up on nearly as many FALLER lists, becasue he looked very fluid and agile in Drills...


Im not saying Tape isnt king, It is for sure. I made the same argument last year regarding Brandon Spikes.

I am just saying quoting a guy who clearly mentions Ayers as a faller doesnt exactly support your claims about him not being on many fallers lists.

Btw, most lists arent out yet. People are still absorbing things. I know he fell on almost every player ranking chart Ive seen.

He most definetly hurt himself. I, like many, expected this kid to light it up at the combine.
hes actually saying, he saved himself from falling, because of his drills.. If his drills weren't good, he'd of been on his faller list..

And, your not gonna find anymore faller/Riser lists from the combine, anyone whos worth checking out, has done it, and moved on to PRODAYS and there new mock drafts... The combines over a week over now, how can u need more time, unless your just someone like u or i, and its not part of your job, and your to busy... I only seen him on about 1list, and it was a bleacher report list, just a guy like u or I, no one who does it for a living...

nycsportzfan
03-07-2011, 02:55 AM
no kidding... I didn't say he did good at the combine, just that his positon drills saved em, and for most people who are more about the tape, they'll take those drills into consideration alot more, because its alot closer to in game workouts, then a freaking 40time or bench press, all though, none of it, can live up to game tape.. I'm just saying, for someone who was so awful, he dosen't show up on nearly as many FALLER lists, becasue he looked very fluid and agile in Drills...


Im not saying Tape isnt king, It is for sure. I made the same argument last year regarding Brandon Spikes.

I am just saying quoting a guy who clearly mentions Ayers as a faller doesnt exactly support your claims about him not being on many fallers lists.

Btw, most lists arent out yet. People are still absorbing things. I know he fell on almost every player ranking chart Ive seen.

He most definetly hurt himself. I, like many, expected this kid to light it up at the combine.
i do agree, he could slip a big in the draft, but also, could not slip at all, depending on his proday... I just don't think its that major of a slip, if the guy still goes in the 1st rd... How bad could a guy be, if hes going anywhere in the 1st rd? For such a horrible combine, to still be in the 1st rd, is saying something, not like his horrible combine, is dropping him to end of RD 2 or RD 3 or something...

BlueSanta
03-07-2011, 03:49 AM
no kidding... I didn't say he did good at the combine, just that his positon drills saved em, and for most people who are more about the tape, they'll take those drills into consideration alot more, because its alot closer to in game workouts, then a freaking 40time or bench press, all though, none of it, can live up to game tape.. I'm just saying, for someone who was so awful, he dosen't show up on nearly as many FALLER lists, becasue he looked very fluid and agile in Drills...


Im not saying Tape isnt king, It is for sure. I made the same argument last year regarding Brandon Spikes.

I am just saying quoting a guy who clearly mentions Ayers as a faller doesnt exactly support your claims about him not being on many fallers lists.

Btw, most lists arent out yet. People are still absorbing things. I know he fell on almost every player ranking chart Ive seen.

He most definetly hurt himself. I, like many, expected this kid to light it up at the combine.
i do agree, he could slip a big in the draft, but also, could not slip at all, depending on his proday... I just don't think its that major of a slip, if the guy still goes in the 1st rd... How bad could a guy be, if hes going anywhere in the 1st rd? For such a horrible combine, to still be in the 1st rd, is saying something, not like his horrible combine, is dropping him to end of RD 2 or RD 3 or something...


Well, more than anything, I think he hurt his stock as a 43 LB. Before the combine, I thought Detriot would be taking a hard look at him as they have a big need at LB. That pick would surprise me now.

Even if he has a respectable pro day, I think he has some questions to answer about his lack of preparation for the combine. You can cry "bad day" if you have a bad event or 2. Its a lot harder to say that if you stunk it up as accross the board as he did. Worth ethic questions can be very bad.

Redeyejedi
03-07-2011, 08:26 AM
2012 Prospect Travis Lewis in the Big 12 Championship game vs Nebraska</P>


I was going to work a Demarco Murray vid from this game as well but the tape is all messed up. During this Vid U will see on 2 occasions it goes to the start of the first half and the start of the second half. I tried to delete the clips but it just went on to the next play on my video so I decided to leave it. Im going to add more onto Travis Lewis eventually when I look at his other games so I will fix it then.</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGG-bIa2aA4</P>


</P>


Are U guys interested in Carimi,Moffit, Kirkpatrick vids I was thinking about doing the Rose Bowl game next. Either that game or I was going to do BC vs Nevada . I wanted to work on Luke Kuechly so I could do guys from that game as well. I kind of wanted to look at Colin Kaepernick some more</P>


I love how this guy is all over the field... This was the LB I wanted the Giants to pick up... Great talent!id love a kirkpatrick vid.
</P>


I started watchingthe Rose Bowl gamelast night.Duringthe season I watched Wisconsin some more then most of the Big 10 schools. I wasnt overly into watching them on defense though. I usually would go from game to game and watch there offensive lineman. I knew JJ Watt was a pretty good player from what I had seen but I never really focused on him. This is the first time I really have taken a long extended look at him and he is pretty dam good. They use him at every spot along the defensive line,they stand him up he is quite verstile for a guy that size. My initial impressions on some of these players I watched during the season have changed when I look at them up close. Im amazed how high he gets up to try to block passes at the line. I was impressed with him at the combine and from what Ive seen so far his measurables there show up on his game tape.</P>

heavyhitter
03-08-2011, 08:15 AM
<font size="3">Christian Ponder's stock has rose for sure. MVP at the Senior Bowl and tested well at the combine as well despite his injured arm/elbow. Should be interesting to see when and where he lands in the draft.</font>


Ya, I said it in other threads for some time. I think Ponder is going to make some team VERY happy. The only thing that will hold him back is if the Doc's didnt like what they saw in his elbow. His game translates to the NFL very well with 1 exception. He has to learn to slide more or he will get his head removed.
<font size="3">Yea- I think most scouts are saying he'll fit well in a west coast offense. Do you follow Florida State football?</font>
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Im going to get up Nigel Bradham and Brandon Jenkin vids eventually</p>Sounds good- No rush, whenever you get around to it.

heavyhitter
03-08-2011, 08:19 AM
Cam Newton and other Auburn prospects Pro Day today.

titwio
03-08-2011, 09:33 AM
Cam Newton and other Auburn prospects Pro Day today.


Yes sir...Mayock will be there...

They should be giving the highlights and results on "Path To The Draft" on NFL Network at 6:00 tonight...

Neverend
03-08-2011, 05:26 PM
Cam Newton just starting drills. Looks very solid

Raptor22
03-08-2011, 05:35 PM
Cam Newton just starting drills. Looks very solid

I love the SportsCenter report: "Breaking News, Cam Newton is starting his workout" At least Tebow was one of the best college players ever.

-_-

titwio
03-08-2011, 05:39 PM
Cam Newton just starting drills. Looks very solid

Yeah I'm watching at Espn3.com...

BlueSanta
03-08-2011, 06:27 PM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.

Redeyejedi
03-08-2011, 08:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GAmfFFAzAM</P>


JJ Watt vs TCU Rose Bowl</P>


First of a few that will be upfrom this game. I like Watt for a 3-4 defense pretty verstile player</P>

thegreatone
03-08-2011, 09:05 PM
Cam Newton just starting drills. Looks very soliddid you catch mayock interviewing him at the end? cam called him mr mcshay...LOL. thats gonna drop his rankings lol

Redeyejedi
03-09-2011, 07:50 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUDpYibpGY</P>


Jake Kirkpatrick vs Wisconsin </P>


I was going to highlight him but it looked like a jumbled mess when I did. He is the center #76 U guys can find him</P>


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</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQTw7zBv1k</P>


Tank Carder TCU vs Wisconsin 2012 NFL Draft</P>


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Redeyejedi
03-09-2011, 08:34 AM
<FONT color=#020f42>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUDpYibpGY</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUDpYibpGY)</P>


Jake Kirkpatrick vs Wisconsin </P>


I was going to highlight him but it looked like a jumbled mess when I did. He is the center #76 U guys can find him</P>


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</P>


<FONT color=#020f42>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQTw7zBv1k</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQTw7zBv1k)</P>


Tank Carder TCU vs Wisconsin 2012 NFL Draft</P>


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nycsportzfan
03-09-2011, 10:22 AM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!

Redeyejedi
03-09-2011, 10:30 AM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Burton went up against some of the better receivers in the draft. He had some problems with Austin Pettis. He played well against Baldwin except for one miscommunication with the safety and Baldwin got deep on him.

titwio
03-09-2011, 07:01 PM
I just heard on NFL Network Lance Kendricks ran a 4.50 at his pro day...

They're talking about his stock moving into the 2nd round and they're comparing his work out to Dustin Keller.

Redeyejedi
03-09-2011, 07:24 PM
I just heard on NFL Network Lance Kendricks ran a 4.50 at his pro day... They're talking about his stock moving into the 2nd round and they're comparing his work out to Dustin Keller.Thats good for him. He looked bad at the combine

Redeyejedi
03-09-2011, 09:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMhxFdhhcww</P>


</P>


Demarco Murray vs Iowa state</P>

nycsportzfan
03-09-2011, 10:05 PM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Burton went up against some of the better receivers in the draft. He had some problems with Austin Pettis. He played well against Baldwin except for one miscommunication with the safety and Baldwin got deep on him. Thanks Redeye!!!lol I can always count on you, to give me news on guys...i think i heard all i can about Nick Fairley, Cam Newton, and patrick peterson..

The funny thing is, you'd think these networks would learn, how many of the best players from everydraft come from RDs 2 and 3 and 4 even, ala Brandon jacobs, Steve Smith, Chris Snee...etc...etc They need to widen there analaysis.. We all know about Cam Newton and what he brings, most don't know about guys like Benjamin Ijalana and Mason Foster and those type guys...

I mean, of course we do, but i'd still like em to do a segment on Talent found outside of the 1st rd, and who those guys could be this yr, and stuff like that...

Redeyejedi
03-09-2011, 10:30 PM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Burton went up against some of the better receivers in the draft. He had some problems with Austin Pettis. He played well against Baldwin except for one miscommunication with the safety and Baldwin got deep on him. Thanks Redeye!!!lol I can always count on you, to give me news on guys...i think i heard all i can about Nick Fairley, Cam Newton, and patrick peterson..

The funny thing is, you'd think these networks would learn, how many of the best players from everydraft come from RDs 2 and 3 and 4 even, ala Brandon jacobs, Steve Smith, Chris Snee...etc...etc They need to widen there analaysis.. We all know about Cam Newton and what he brings, most don't know about guys like Benjamin Ijalana and Mason Foster and those type guys...

I mean, of course we do, but i'd still like em to do a segment on Talent found outside of the 1st rd, and who those guys could be this yr, and stuff like that...
Yeah but the majority of fans could care less about the draft after the big name guys. Not everyone is a draft junkie like the people on this thread

BlueSanta
03-10-2011, 12:05 AM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Burton went up against some of the better receivers in the draft. He had some problems with Austin Pettis. He played well against Baldwin except for one miscommunication with the safety and Baldwin got deep on him. Thanks Redeye!!!lol I can always count on you, to give me news on guys...i think i heard all i can about Nick Fairley, Cam Newton, and patrick peterson..

The funny thing is, you'd think these networks would learn, how many of the best players from everydraft come from RDs 2 and 3 and 4 even, ala Brandon jacobs, Steve Smith, Chris Snee...etc...etc They need to widen there analaysis.. We all know about Cam Newton and what he brings, most don't know about guys like Benjamin Ijalana and Mason Foster and those type guys...

I mean, of course we do, but i'd still like em to do a segment on Talent found outside of the 1st rd, and who those guys could be this yr, and stuff like that...

This sounds off the wall, but I liken it to Golf and Tiger Woods.

Every day for over a decade people heard NOTHING of the golf world that wasnt about Tiger. The PGA tour and all sports networks used his image and used him as the topic every time they talked about golf. Well, Now they are stuck with an audience that doesnt want to watch because the 1 guy they knew anything about is stinking it up. Fans are leaving in droves.

If the media, and the NFL put all their media in 1 egg basket, that egg better hatch into a something great because its likely going to result in huge lost dollars if he doesnt. They should spend some time getting people familiar with the other future stars out there instead of dedicating entire episodes of broadcasts to the shoe size and of Cam Newton because they have nothing else left to talk about this 1 kid.

nycsportzfan
03-10-2011, 12:25 AM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Burton went up against some of the better receivers in the draft. He had some problems with Austin Pettis. He played well against Baldwin except for one miscommunication with the safety and Baldwin got deep on him. Thanks Redeye!!!lol I can always count on you, to give me news on guys...i think i heard all i can about Nick Fairley, Cam Newton, and patrick peterson..

The funny thing is, you'd think these networks would learn, how many of the best players from everydraft come from RDs 2 and 3 and 4 even, ala Brandon jacobs, Steve Smith, Chris Snee...etc...etc They need to widen there analaysis.. We all know about Cam Newton and what he brings, most don't know about guys like Benjamin Ijalana and Mason Foster and those type guys...

I mean, of course we do, but i'd still like em to do a segment on Talent found outside of the 1st rd, and who those guys could be this yr, and stuff like that...
Yeah but the majority of fans could care less about the draft after the big name guys. Not everyone is a draft junkie like the people on this thread True, but lets not forget, most of the top few prospects have no chance to go to any of the majoirty of football fans, fave teams... Seahawk fans, who are slightly casual, but still eager enough, to care at least about there 1st rder, could care less about Cam Newton, becasue they no, hes not playing there.... Theres only a handful of teams fans, that really give a rat about Cam and Peterson, because they actually have a chance to get one of em...

And, shows like Nfl's Path to the Draft, are for guys mostly like us, or i doubt people would be watching it, if they weren't draft nuts like us, and its the same deal on there, with alittle more analysis on other guys, but still, not to much...

Not to mention, Websites even, that have there own Draft Section, should know, if your visiting that area, more then likely, you are a draft nut, and u dont want to see the top story always being what Cam Newton ate for dinner the night before...lol

nycsportzfan
03-10-2011, 12:27 AM
I gotta be honest, and this isnt about hating on Cam Newton, but I really hate how ESPN and even NFL network are covering offseasons now.

Last year was the Tim Tebow Show. This year is the Cam Newton Show. I hate that there are hundreds of other great prospects who people have to sift through the dark corners of the internet to find anything out about. Then there is Cam Newton, who we now have every bit of information we could possibly care about shoved down our throat. I would love it if major networks would get the masses involved in more than just 1(or a few) guy per offseason.
well said... It gets ridiculous, that these Networks think we all care so much about freaking the top QB, to the point, its all we want to here about day in and day out... THey just dont stop...I'd love to here about guys like Brandon Burton, and guys like that, but noooooooo, we gotta here about Cam, Cam, and more Cam! AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Burton went up against some of the better receivers in the draft. He had some problems with Austin Pettis. He played well against Baldwin except for one miscommunication with the safety and Baldwin got deep on him. Thanks Redeye!!!lol I can always count on you, to give me news on guys...i think i heard all i can about Nick Fairley, Cam Newton, and patrick peterson..

The funny thing is, you'd think these networks would learn, how many of the best players from everydraft come from RDs 2 and 3 and 4 even, ala Brandon jacobs, Steve Smith, Chris Snee...etc...etc They need to widen there analaysis.. We all know about Cam Newton and what he brings, most don't know about guys like Benjamin Ijalana and Mason Foster and those type guys...

I mean, of course we do, but i'd still like em to do a segment on Talent found outside of the 1st rd, and who those guys could be this yr, and stuff like that...

This sounds off the wall, but I liken it to Golf and Tiger Woods.

Every day for over a decade people heard NOTHING of the golf world that wasnt about Tiger. The PGA tour and all sports networks used his image and used him as the topic every time they talked about golf. Well, Now they are stuck with an audience that doesnt want to watch because the 1 guy they knew anything about is stinking it up. Fans are leaving in droves.

If the media, and the NFL put all their media in 1 egg basket, that egg better hatch into a something great because its likely going to result in huge lost dollars if he doesnt. They should spend some time getting people familiar with the other future stars out there instead of dedicating entire episodes of broadcasts to the shoe size and of Cam Newton because they have nothing else left to talk about this 1 kid.
nah, its not crazy, a very good way to look at it, and very true... The funny thing is, the top 20players to come outta this draft, are probably mostly gonna come outta other rds, outside of the 1st..

BlueSanta
03-10-2011, 12:42 AM
Yeah but the majority of fans could care less about the draft after the big name guys. Not everyone is a draft junkie like the people on this thread
I dunno, I agree to a point.

But, every offseason people follow players for a couple reasons 1) they want that player on their pro team or 2) they followed that player or his team in college.

Auburn fans will follow Cam's progress in the NFL from afar. The fans of the team that drafts him will follow from too. Everyone else will be more interested in other players come draft day, and thats a lot of people being ignored. It would be nice if they had a chance to get to know those players prior to that day.

I know it cant happen for every player , but there are a LOT of great stories out there that the media ignores for the easy button(Cam Newton.) Its just annoying. He deserves coverage, dont get me wrong, but its way overdone.

nycsportzfan
03-10-2011, 06:34 AM
possibly the best day for prodays is today....

March 10: Buffalo, Clemson, Fort Valley State, Fresno State,
Indiana, Kentucky, Louisville, Miami (Fla.), Mississippi State,
Nebraska, Oregon, Texas Tech, Washington State, West Texas A&amp;M


Looking forward to seeing What Davonte Shannon has to offer from Buffalo, along with Jamie Harper, Marcus Gilchrist, Chris Hariston, Deandre McDaniel from Clemson, Chris Carter from Fresno St, James Brewer from Indiana(i liked him for our future RT for awhile now), Randall Cobb and Mike Hartline from Kentucky(hartline is a guy i wouldent mind having come in as a UDF), Bilal Powell, Johnny Patrick and Cam Graham from Louisville, Damion Berry from Miami, Sherrod and Kj Wright from MSU, Dejon Gomes, Roy Helu and Eric Hagg from Nebraska, Jeff Maehl from Oregon, and colby whitlock from Tex Tech....


A real nice day of prospects at prodays...

Redeyejedi
03-10-2011, 08:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds4VJ7QWXfY</P>


Quinton Coples vs Tennenssee Music City Bowl</P>

nycsportzfan
03-10-2011, 11:24 PM
Davonte Shannon hurt his Hammy today, during his proday... But, before he did, he looked very good, and showed off that Speed, that i thought i saw on tape anyways, and a nice Vertical jump.. This guy can play... I like the guys that have that Sideline to Sideline, all over the field attitude, that also combine legit athletic ability and a nose for the football... Shannon fits the bill... Way to go Davonte... I hope the giants get this kid, somehow

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ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Safety Davonte Shannon
aggravated a left hamstring injury, cutting short a chance to impress
NFL scouts during the University at Buffalo's pro day.</p>


The four-time Mid-American Conference first-team selection came up
limping near the end of his 40-yard dash Thursday. Shannon's first run
was timed at about 4.5 seconds, and he wowed scouts with a vertical jump
measured at 41½ inches.</p>


With his leg wrapped afterward, Shannon called the injury "a tweak." He said he first hurt his hamstring in January.</p>


Shannon is considered among the top 15 safeties available in the
draft next month, making him a potential late-round selection. He led
Buffalo with 120 tackles last season, and finished his four-year career
with a school record 461.</p>
<cite class="tagline">—Copyright 2011 Associated Press</cite>

nycsportzfan
03-11-2011, 03:28 AM
Heres a cool article on Akeem Ayers from WES BUNTING...


Much like Brandon Spikes last year, could a team like a Patriots find another gem in Ayers? Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html)</p>




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As soon as the 4.84 40-time popped up under UCLA linebacker Akeem Ayers (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)name,
you could instantly hear the mummers of his draft stock falling. Ayers
is an imposing 6-3, 254-pound backer who displays an impressive blend of
power and explosion at the point of attack. He’s the one linebacker
this year on tape who had the physical capability of not only destroying
opposing pulling linemen in the hole, but showcased the range to make
plays in pursuit as well. Plus, for his size he exhibited impressive
fluidity and balance when asked to change directions and demonstrated
the straight-line speed to close quickly on the ball.</p>



Therefore, should his slow 40-time really hurt his draft stock? In my view… no.</p>



On tape he plays like a guy who runs 4.6 and even when watching him
during his Combine workout, directly following his 4.8+ 40, he still
looked very fluid for a big guy, was explosive out of his breaks and
based off his workout alone, I would still say he could run in the 4.6
range.</p>



Now, overall he will likely fall a bit further than he originally could
have gone if he posted a better 40 time. However, much like Florida LB
Brandon Spikes last year, who fell into the second round because of his
slow 40-time, I could see Ayers end up having the same type of instant
impact once he gets to the next level.</p>



Ayers isn’t nearly the natural football player that Spikes is. However,
he definitely possesses a gifted skill set, can anchor, can shed, can
run and looks capable of being versatile enough to perform in just about
any scheme. Plus, he has experience playing with his hand on the ground
and exhibits some natural pass rush ability off the edge, making him an
intriguing candidate for any 34 defense.</p>



Every draft we see a number of good football players fall during this
time of the year because of a poor 40 time, that end up developing into
early impact players at the next level. And following the Combine, I
think that prospect could end up being Ayers this year, and whatever
team ends up getting their hands on him is going to be happy that he
did.</p>

thegreatone
03-11-2011, 08:41 AM
Davonte Shannon hurt his Hammy today, during his proday... But, before he did, he looked very good, and showed off that Speed, that i thought i saw on tape anyways, and a nice Vertical jump.. This guy can play... I like the guys that have that Sideline to Sideline, all over the field attitude, that also combine legit athletic ability and a nose for the football... Shannon fits the bill... Way to go Davonte... I hope the giants get this kid, somehow

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ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Safety Davonte Shannon
aggravated a left hamstring injury, cutting short a chance to impress
NFL scouts during the University at Buffalo's pro day.</p>


The four-time Mid-American Conference first-team selection came up
limping near the end of his 40-yard dash Thursday. Shannon's first run
was timed at about 4.5 seconds, and he wowed scouts with a vertical jump
measured at 41½ inches.</p>


With his leg wrapped afterward, Shannon called the injury "a tweak." He said he first hurt his hamstring in January.</p>


Shannon is considered among the top 15 safeties available in the
draft next month, making him a potential late-round selection. He led
Buffalo with 120 tackles last season, and finished his four-year career
with a school record 461.</p>
<cite class="tagline">—Copyright 2011 Associated Press</cite>
has he had any history with his hammy before? dont want another Ross on our hands

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 09:12 AM
Heres a cool article on Akeem Ayers from WES BUNTING...



Much like Brandon Spikes last year, could a team like a Patriots find another gem in Ayers? Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html)</P>
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As soon as the 4.84 40-time popped up under UCLA linebacker Akeem Ayers (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)name, you could instantly hear the mummers of his draft stock falling. Ayers is an imposing 6-3, 254-pound backer who displays an impressive blend of power and explosion at the point of attack. He’s the one linebacker this year on tape who had the physical capability of not only destroying opposing pulling linemen in the hole, but showcased the range to make plays in pursuit as well. Plus, for his size he exhibited impressive fluidity and balance when asked to change directions and demonstrated the straight-line speed to close quickly on the ball.</P>


Therefore, should his slow 40-time really hurt his draft stock? In my view… no.</P>


On tape he plays like a guy who runs 4.6 and even when watching him during his Combine workout, directly following his 4.8+ 40, he still looked very fluid for a big guy, was explosive out of his breaks and based off his workout alone, I would still say he could run in the 4.6 range.</P>


Now, overall he will likely fall a bit further than he originally could have gone if he posted a better 40 time. However, much like Florida LB Brandon Spikes last year, who fell into the second round because of his slow 40-time, I could see Ayers end up having the same type of instant impact once he gets to the next level.</P>


Ayers isn’t nearly the natural football player that Spikes is. However, he definitely possesses a gifted skill set, can anchor, can shed, can run and looks capable of being versatile enough to perform in just about any scheme. Plus, he has experience playing with his hand on the ground and exhibits some natural pass rush ability off the edge, making him an intriguing candidate for any 34 defense.</P>


Every draft we see a number of good football players fall during this time of the year because of a poor 40 time, that end up developing into early impact players at the next level. And following the Combine, I think that prospect could end up being Ayers this year, and whatever team ends up getting their hands on him is going to be happy that he did.</P>

Yeah but Spikes went to play inside in a 3-4 defense to hide some of his foot speed.The seem thing may be best for Ayers. I was actually shocked he ran that, he looks faster to me then that. I thought he would run a 4.65. I think Ayers best bet is a 3-4 . He isnt great at one thing but he isnt bad at anything either. His versatility can really show up in a 3-4 where he can do a little bit of everything.

nycsportzfan
03-11-2011, 10:13 AM
Heres a cool article on Akeem Ayers from WES BUNTING...



Much like Brandon Spikes last year, could a team like a Patriots find another gem in Ayers? Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html)</p>
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As soon as the 4.84 40-time popped up under UCLA linebacker Akeem Ayers (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)name, you could instantly hear the mummers of his draft stock falling. Ayers is an imposing 6-3, 254-pound backer who displays an impressive blend of power and explosion at the point of attack. He’s the one linebacker this year on tape who had the physical capability of not only destroying opposing pulling linemen in the hole, but showcased the range to make plays in pursuit as well. Plus, for his size he exhibited impressive fluidity and balance when asked to change directions and demonstrated the straight-line speed to close quickly on the ball.</p>


Therefore, should his slow 40-time really hurt his draft stock? In my view… no.</p>


On tape he plays like a guy who runs 4.6 and even when watching him during his Combine workout, directly following his 4.8+ 40, he still looked very fluid for a big guy, was explosive out of his breaks and based off his workout alone, I would still say he could run in the 4.6 range.</p>


Now, overall he will likely fall a bit further than he originally could have gone if he posted a better 40 time. However, much like Florida LB Brandon Spikes last year, who fell into the second round because of his slow 40-time, I could see Ayers end up having the same type of instant impact once he gets to the next level.</p>


Ayers isn’t nearly the natural football player that Spikes is. However, he definitely possesses a gifted skill set, can anchor, can shed, can run and looks capable of being versatile enough to perform in just about any scheme. Plus, he has experience playing with his hand on the ground and exhibits some natural pass rush ability off the edge, making him an intriguing candidate for any 34 defense.</p>


Every draft we see a number of good football players fall during this time of the year because of a poor 40 time, that end up developing into early impact players at the next level. And following the Combine, I think that prospect could end up being Ayers this year, and whatever team ends up getting their hands on him is going to be happy that he did.</p>

Yeah but Spikes went to play inside in a 3-4 defense to hide some of his foot speed.The seem thing may be best for Ayers. I was actually shocked he ran that, he looks faster to me then that. I thought he would run a 4.65. I think Ayers best bet is a 3-4 . He isnt great at one thing but he isnt bad at anything either. His versatility can really show up in a 3-4 where he can do a little bit of everything. ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 03:09 PM
Heres a cool article on Akeem Ayers from WES BUNTING...



Much like Brandon Spikes last year, could a team like a Patriots find another gem in Ayers? Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/wes-bunting.html)</P>
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As soon as the 4.84 40-time popped up under UCLA linebacker Akeem Ayers (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)name, you could instantly hear the mummers of his draft stock falling. Ayers is an imposing 6-3, 254-pound backer who displays an impressive blend of power and explosion at the point of attack. He’s the one linebacker this year on tape who had the physical capability of not only destroying opposing pulling linemen in the hole, but showcased the range to make plays in pursuit as well. Plus, for his size he exhibited impressive fluidity and balance when asked to change directions and demonstrated the straight-line speed to close quickly on the ball.</P>


Therefore, should his slow 40-time really hurt his draft stock? In my view… no.</P>


On tape he plays like a guy who runs 4.6 and even when watching him during his Combine workout, directly following his 4.8+ 40, he still looked very fluid for a big guy, was explosive out of his breaks and based off his workout alone, I would still say he could run in the 4.6 range.</P>


Now, overall he will likely fall a bit further than he originally could have gone if he posted a better 40 time. However, much like Florida LB Brandon Spikes last year, who fell into the second round because of his slow 40-time, I could see Ayers end up having the same type of instant impact once he gets to the next level.</P>


Ayers isn’t nearly the natural football player that Spikes is. However, he definitely possesses a gifted skill set, can anchor, can shed, can run and looks capable of being versatile enough to perform in just about any scheme. Plus, he has experience playing with his hand on the ground and exhibits some natural pass rush ability off the edge, making him an intriguing candidate for any 34 defense.</P>


Every draft we see a number of good football players fall during this time of the year because of a poor 40 time, that end up developing into early impact players at the next level. And following the Combine, I think that prospect could end up being Ayers this year, and whatever team ends up getting their hands on him is going to be happy that he did.</P>

Yeah but Spikes went to play inside in a 3-4 defense to hide some of his foot speed.The seem thing may be best for Ayers. I was actually shocked he ran that, he looks faster to me then that. I thought he would run a 4.65. I think Ayers best bet is a 3-4 . He isnt great at one thing but he isnt bad at anything either. His versatility can really show up in a 3-4 where he can do a little bit of everything. ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
I thought he was a better 3-4 prospect before the combine as well so yeah his 40 time didnt actually change anything for me in reality

nevada11
03-11-2011, 03:25 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
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at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 03:32 PM
I was watching the LSU Texas A&amp;M Bowl game again yesterday. I was really impressed with the true freshman Damonte Moore the kid can play. He is going to put up some sack numbers. </P>


Hey did U know that Clay Matthews and Casey matthews cousin plays for Tackle for Texas A &amp;m. RT Jake Matthwes is a true freshman. Cant wait till 3 years from now everyone will be saying to to draft him</P>

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 03:41 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about. I could care less about Ayers physical numbers really. I think he is a good football player. I just think he makes more sense in a 3-4

nevada11
03-11-2011, 03:49 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


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nevada11
03-11-2011, 03:50 PM
I was watching the LSU Texas A&amp;M Bowl game again yesterday. I was really impressed with the true freshman Damonte Moore the kid can play. He is going to put up some sack numbers. </P>


Hey did U know that Clay Matthews and Casey matthews cousin plays for Tackle for Texas A &amp;m. RT Jake Matthwes is a true freshman. Cant wait till 3 years from now everyone will be saying to to draft him</P>


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LMAO, good one</P>

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 03:54 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


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You critizied Wilsons stiffness the drill im talking about measures agility. Wilson was far better in the agility drill by almost a half a second therefore U have no idea what your talking about. The 3 cone drill measures exactly the thing your saying Wilson is no good at you are comical</P>

nevada11
03-11-2011, 03:59 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


</P>


</P>


You critizied Wilsons stiffness the drill im talking about measures agility. Wilson was far better in the agility drill by almost a half a second therefore U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


</P>


You are just saying "u have no idea what your talking about" to just say it to get to me because I never once said Wilson lacks agility or speed, I said akeem ayers arguably has one of the best game speed out of all the linebackers, I never said he had the very best.</P>


Obviously every drill doesn't measure fluidity, but in the ones that do (hip rotation drill which is supposed to simulate pass drops for a linebacker) ayers excelled even if he did get timed slowly.</P>


Instead of trying to follow other people with that "u dont know what your saying" nonsense, lets try having a civil conversation that doesnt involve trolling and purposely misinterpreting me for the sake of an argument</P>

Neverend
03-11-2011, 04:06 PM
Linebackers that made the transition playing off the ball just from the 2009 draft alone:</P>


Aaron Curry</P>


Robert Ayers</P>


Larry English</P>


Clint Sintim</P>


Cody Brown</P>


I'll pass on ayers. Not that he never did play off the ball before, but I think he might be a little bit of a tweener honestly. Speed does matter in coverage as well as fluidity, you can't downplay that and try to convince yourself it doesn't matter.</P>

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 04:12 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


</P>


</P>


You critizied Wilsons stiffness the drill im talking about measures agility. Wilson was far better in the agility drill by almost a half a second therefore U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


</P>


You are just saying "u have no idea what your talking about" to just say it to get to me because I never once said Wilson lacks agility or speed, I said akeem ayers arguably has one of the best game speed out of all the linebackers, I never said he had the very best.</P>


Obviously every drill doesn't measure fluidity, but in the ones that do (hip rotation drill which is supposed to simulate pass drops for a linebacker) ayers excelled even if he did get timed slowly.</P>


Instead of trying to follow other people with that "u dont know what your saying" nonsense, lets try having a civil conversation that doesnt involve trolling and purposely misinterpreting me for the sake of an argument</P> U just said he was stiff. That pretty much means he he cant change directions. Agility measures your change of direction speed. The 3 cone drill measures agility . Wilson was not slow in the 3 cone drill ,Ayers was get how that works.

nevada11
03-11-2011, 04:12 PM
Linebackers that made the transition playing off the ball just from the 2009 draft alone:</P>


Aaron Curry</P>


Robert Ayers</P>


Larry English</P>


Clint Sintim</P>


Cody Brown</P>


I'll pass on ayers. Not that he never did play off the ball before, but I think he might be a little bit of a tweener honestly. Speed does matter in coverage as well as fluidity, you can't downplay that and try to convince yourself it doesn't matter.</P>


</P>


So we can downplay the linebackers that DID make the transition? Two words: Clay Matthews. He can rush the passer, he can cover the slot, he does it all for the Packers</P>

nevada11
03-11-2011, 04:15 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


</P>


</P>


You critizied Wilsons stiffness the drill im talking about measures agility. Wilson was far better in the agility drill by almost a half a second therefore U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


</P>


You are just saying "u have no idea what your talking about" to just say it to get to me because I never once said Wilson lacks agility or speed, I said akeem ayers arguably has one of the best game speed out of all the linebackers, I never said he had the very best.</P>


Obviously every drill doesn't measure fluidity, but in the ones that do (hip rotation drill which is supposed to simulate pass drops for a linebacker) ayers excelled even if he did get timed slowly.</P>


Instead of trying to follow other people with that "u dont know what your saying" nonsense, lets try having a civil conversation that doesnt involve trolling and purposely misinterpreting me for the sake of an argument</P>


U just said he was stiff. That pretty much means he he cant change directions. Agility measures your change of direction speed. The 3 cone drill measures agility . Wilson was not slow in the 3 cone drill ,Ayers was get how that works.</P>


Stiff hips =/= can't change directions. When I said martez wilson is stiff he changes directions with lack of fluidity.</P>


You can run a 4.3 and still have stiff hips.</P>

Neverend
03-11-2011, 04:21 PM
Linebackers that made the transition playing off the ball just from the 2009 draft alone:</P>


Aaron Curry</P>


Robert Ayers</P>


Larry English</P>


Clint Sintim</P>


Cody Brown</P>


I'll pass on ayers. Not that he never did play off the ball before, but I think he might be a little bit of a tweener honestly. Speed does matter in coverage as well as fluidity, you can't downplay that and try to convince yourself it doesn't matter.</P>


</P>


So we can downplay the linebackers that DID make the transition? Two words: Clay Matthews. He can rush the passer, he can cover the slot, he does it all for the Packers</P>


</P>


This is very true. Clay Matthews was used predominantly as a DE at USC on the ball and was a DE/LB hybrid in that scheme but he gainedlike 15-20 lbsbefore his rookie season tho whichpretty much means he's a pass rusher first, everything else second.I don't think you can compare clay matthews to anyone, he's just a special pass rusher and has a phenomenal motor. He doesn't drop into coverage or get off blocks against the run amazingly well anyway, the steelers ran at him at the super bowl with quite success. And Clay Matthews has terrific instincts where ayers really doesn't. I was reading a piece a few days ago about clay matthews leading the nfl in unblocked sacks (and they werent on twists and stunts either), he has great instincts/anticipation skills.</P>

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 04:25 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


</P>


</P>


You critizied Wilsons stiffness the drill im talking about measures agility. Wilson was far better in the agility drill by almost a half a second therefore U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


</P>


You are just saying "u have no idea what your talking about" to just say it to get to me because I never once said Wilson lacks agility or speed, I said akeem ayers arguably has one of the best game speed out of all the linebackers, I never said he had the very best.</P>


Obviously every drill doesn't measure fluidity, but in the ones that do (hip rotation drill which is supposed to simulate pass drops for a linebacker) ayers excelled even if he did get timed slowly.</P>


Instead of trying to follow other people with that "u dont know what your saying" nonsense, lets try having a civil conversation that doesnt involve trolling and purposely misinterpreting me for the sake of an argument</P>


U just said he was stiff. That pretty much means he he cant change directions. Agility measures your change of direction speed. The 3 cone drill measures agility . Wilson was not slow in the 3 cone drill ,Ayers was get how that works.</P>


Stiff hips =/= can't change directions. When I said martez wilson is stiff he changes directions with lack of fluidity.</P>


You can run a 4.3 and still have stiff hips.</P>


</P>


and he can still get to the play faster. The 3 cone drill measures how quickly u flip your hips and change direction. Mccluster ran a horrible 40 and the fastest 3 cone drill. It showed he could change directions quickly so his straight line speed doesnt matter. If Wilson had the worst 3 cone drill time then I would say u may be on to something but he didnt and your not.</P>

nevada11
03-11-2011, 04:47 PM
Linebackers that made the transition playing off the ball just from the 2009 draft alone:</P>


Aaron Curry</P>


Robert Ayers</P>


Larry English</P>


Clint Sintim</P>


Cody Brown</P>


I'll pass on ayers. Not that he never did play off the ball before, but I think he might be a little bit of a tweener honestly. Speed does matter in coverage as well as fluidity, you can't downplay that and try to convince yourself it doesn't matter.</P>


</P>


So we can downplay the linebackers that DID make the transition? Two words: Clay Matthews. He can rush the passer, he can cover the slot, he does it all for the Packers</P>


</P>


This is very true. Clay Matthews was used predominantly as a DE at USC on the ball and was a DE/LB hybrid in that scheme but he gainedlike 15-20 lbsbefore his rookie season tho whichpretty much means he's a pass rusher first, everything else second.I don't think you can compare clay matthews to anyone, he's just a special pass rusher and has a phenomenal motor. He doesn't drop into coverage or get off blocks against the run amazingly well anyway, the steelers ran at him at the super bowl with quite success. And Clay Matthews has terrific instincts where ayers really doesn't. I was reading a piece a few days ago about clay matthews leading the nfl in unblocked sacks (and they werent on twists and stunts either), he has great instincts/anticipation skills.</P>


</P>


no i wasnt comparing ayers to matthews. i said matthews because you were talking about that on/off the ball stuff and linebackers that were or were not successful.</P>


Ayers was used more "off the ball" in 2009 and was still considered a 1st round pick after that season. He's going to be a good player in the nfl and has as much of a bust chance as anyone else. If he improves at his pro day the Giants will jump all over him. Reese loves versatile players</P>


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nevada11
03-11-2011, 04:52 PM
ya, but he also goes on to say, that Ayers has a Skillset and versatility to play in any scheme..

Lets face it.. The combine dosen't matter, all that much anyways.. None of the guys do what they did at the combine, at there prodays... Just yesterday alone, Brandon Harris had a Worse Vertical, and Jeff Maehl, Derek Sherrod and Kj Wright all ran worse 40's then they did at the combine, and guys like Justin Harper, Mark Ingram ran better 40times, and Damion Berry lost 5or6 lbs since then... The combine, is just one day to these guys, not a definite, what they do on any and all days... Like i said then, u time these guys tommorow, and they'll probably be diffrent times and leaps and all that stuff... It'd be silly to think hes a 3/4 guy based on just the combine... If he plays faster on the feild, and is scheme versatile, and can play in coverege, along with rush the passer and make plays against the run, then he can play in any system....
</P>


at least there is one person out there still alive who supports akeem ayers around here. Akeem Ayers game speed is arguably one of the best out of all the linebackers. So what if he ran slow? He's FLUID whereas Martez Wilson runs fast but is STIFF. A man like martez wilson can run fast in a straight line down a seam with a receiver on a go route, sure. but is he going to cover slants or intermediate routes with as stiff as he is? No. 40 times might be the most overrated drill in the book.</P>


the 3 cone drill shows speed and agility and Ayers did poorly in that as well. Wilson was almost a half a sec better U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


I have no idea what I'm talking about? Dude, did you read my post at all? I never said akeem ayers was fast in the drills, he was timed slow and was nearly bottom in all of them. But he showed FLUIDITY in some of the drills which I will take 10 times out of 10 over blazing fast speed. Think and re-read posts before you click enter man</P>


</P>


</P>


You critizied Wilsons stiffness the drill im talking about measures agility. Wilson was far better in the agility drill by almost a half a second therefore U have no idea what your talking about.</P>


</P>


You are just saying "u have no idea what your talking about" to just say it to get to me because I never once said Wilson lacks agility or speed, I said akeem ayers arguably has one of the best game speed out of all the linebackers, I never said he had the very best.</P>


Obviously every drill doesn't measure fluidity, but in the ones that do (hip rotation drill which is supposed to simulate pass drops for a linebacker) ayers excelled even if he did get timed slowly.</P>


Instead of trying to follow other people with that "u dont know what your saying" nonsense, lets try having a civil conversation that doesnt involve trolling and purposely misinterpreting me for the sake of an argument</P>


U just said he was stiff. That pretty much means he he cant change directions. Agility measures your change of direction speed. The 3 cone drill measures agility . Wilson was not slow in the 3 cone drill ,Ayers was get how that works.</P>


Stiff hips =/= can't change directions. When I said martez wilson is stiff he changes directions with lack of fluidity.</P>


You can run a 4.3 and still have stiff hips.</P>


</P>


and he can still get to the play faster. The 3 cone drill measures how quickly u flip your hips and change direction. Mccluster ran a horrible 40 and the fastest 3 cone drill. It showed he could change directions quickly so his straight line speed doesnt matter. If Wilson had the worst 3 cone drill time then I would say u may be on to something but he didnt and your not.</P>


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Now you're confusing me. We're talking about two different drills. I'm talking about the hip rotation drill which Wilson's stiffness showed and Ayers was very fluid. Von Miller even looked bad in that drill which is OK because he's not accustomed to it. 3 cone drill is mostly about changing directions without losing speed or balance, not about your hip transition and fluidity in your breaks in coverage. That drill is mostly valuable for a RB or a wr like you said.The hip rotation drill is about stiff/fluidity in your hips</P>

Redeyejedi
03-11-2011, 09:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3CILPRDp0</P>


Janoris Jenkins vs Alabama</P>


Not much here because Janoris Jenkins played his *** off in this game. He shut down Julio Jones</P>

nycsportzfan
03-12-2011, 07:59 AM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....

nycsportzfan
03-12-2011, 08:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3CILPRDp0</p>


Janoris Jenkins vs Alabama</p>


Not much here because Janoris Jenkins played his *** off in this game. He shut down Julio Jones</p> Ya, he was sensational.. I wonder if people would of been debating as hard with me about Jenkins had he came out, becuase i'd of been called Jenkins AGENT by now, as well..lol I love this kid....

Redeyejedi
03-12-2011, 08:11 AM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine.

Raptor22
03-12-2011, 08:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3CILPRDp0</p>


Janoris Jenkins vs Alabama</p>


Not much here because Janoris Jenkins played his *** off in this game. He shut down Julio Jones</p> Ya, he was sensational.. I wonder if people would of been debating as hard with me about Jenkins had he came out, becuase i'd of been called Jenkins AGENT by now, as well..lol I love this kid....


I was pissed when Jenkins decided to return to school... I understand the decision, but now there's no way the Giants get him. He was the corner I wanted; not the biggest or fastest, but he shut down Jones, Green, and Alshon Jeffery. Dez Bryant would just disappear.

If he had come out, it would be an AWESOME CB class (as opposed to just great)... Peterson, Amukamara, Jenkins, Smith, Harris, House... damn.

Neverend
03-12-2011, 10:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3CILPRDp0</P>


Janoris Jenkins vs Alabama</P>


Not much here because Janoris Jenkins played his *** off in this game. He shut down Julio Jones</P>


</P>


Diagnosed some plays excellently there. Probably will be a top 10 pick next year unless some corner arises</P>

Redeyejedi
03-12-2011, 10:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3CILPRDp0</P>


Janoris Jenkins vs Alabama</P>


Not much here because Janoris Jenkins played his *** off in this game. He shut down Julio Jones</P>


</P>


Diagnosed some plays excellently there. Probably will be a top 10 pick next year unless some corner arises</P>


</P>


Im watching Texas A &amp;M vs LSU right now and Patrick Peterson has some flaws in his game. The more closely I watch him the more I see. His physical ability is about as good as Ive ever seen from a CB but his technique is flawed. I think he will struggle some early in his career. </P>


Im very impressed with the tapes ive seen of Texas A&amp;M RB Cyrus Gray as well. Very good blocker, very patient runner, needs work as a receiver but a very good RB. Maybe I should start a thread of 2012 prospects but I wanted to switch the name of this thread after the draft to 2012 so we could save the posts. During the off season I was going to profile 2012 prospects anyway so I guess I will touch on them again anyway.</P>

Redeyejedi
03-12-2011, 11:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU3CILPRDp0</P>


Janoris Jenkins vs Alabama</P>


Not much here because Janoris Jenkins played his *** off in this game. He shut down Julio Jones</P>


</P>


Diagnosed some plays excellently there. Probably will be a top 10 pick next year unless some corner arises</P>


Slip said he got a 3rd round grade from the draft committee this year. I mean his physical size is not impressive but thesegreat receivers with awesome physical size are getting shut down. Jeffery,Green, and Jones had a combined 114 yards against Jenkins</P>

titwio
03-12-2011, 04:04 PM
Jacquizz Rodgers runs a 4.47 at Oregon State pro day...(Combine 4.64)

Wonder how that helps his stock....

K.J Wright runs a slower 40 than the combine but adds 2" to his vertical...

nycsportzfan
03-12-2011, 06:13 PM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine. The surfaces at the proday are better then the surfaces at the combine? So, all the schools have the same Surface for prodays? i don't know about that.. Also, that dosen't explain guys losing inches on there vertical(see brandon Harris and jimmy smith), or Losing Speed on there 40(see sherrod, Kj Wrigh and jeff maehlt, kendall hunter), and gaining inch's on there Height(see jaquizz rodgers) or improving there vertical by 4inches(see eric hagg), or improving there broad jump(see jeff maehl), or losing like 9lbs(see marcus cannon), or even crazier, 12lbs(see nate solder)..

I could go on like this forever, but u get the point....

nycsportzfan
03-12-2011, 06:15 PM
Jacquizz Rodgers runs a 4.47 at Oregon State pro day...(Combine 4.64)

Wonder how that helps his stock....

K.J Wright runs a slower 40 than the combine but adds 2" to his vertical... I think it just again, makes u have to look at tape, and how they performed in drills, alot more, because the diffrence between combines and prodays, is ridiculous... And alot of players know this, hence, alot of em not perorming certain things at there prodays, because they know how easy it can be diffrent... I think if u like Jaquizz, u have to like jaquizz.. I mean, i mocked him to us in RD 3, after the combine, so his proday does nothing for me, i still really like em.... I'm sure it won't hurt his stock, thats for sure...

Redeyejedi
03-12-2011, 08:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</P>


</P>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</P>


</P>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</P>


</P>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</P>

Redeyejedi
03-12-2011, 09:13 PM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine. The surfaces at the proday are better then the surfaces at the combine? So, all the schools have the same Surface for prodays? i don't know about that.. Also, that dosen't explain guys losing inches on there vertical(see brandon Harris and jimmy smith), or Losing Speed on there 40(see sherrod, Kj Wrigh and jeff maehlt, kendall hunter), and gaining inch's on there Height(see jaquizz rodgers) or improving there vertical by 4inches(see eric hagg), or improving there broad jump(see jeff maehl), or losing like 9lbs(see marcus cannon), or even crazier, 12lbs(see nate solder)..

I could go on like this forever, but u get the point....
Tracks absolutely vary.Some surfaces produce faster times some slower. The combine everyone is on even ground so I believe thats the best way to judge guys speed.I ignorepro day times because im unable to weigh it objectively against other players. Everyones weight varys from day to day most people have 5 pound swings in there weight on a normal basis.Guys like Cannon and Solder being over 300 pounds for them 10 pounds is really nothing. The height thing is weird and must be mistakes there is no way to explain that. Ive seen that with arm length 2. Your right that things vary from day to day somedays u just are in better physical condition. There really shouldnt be so much of a difference though. Hagg gaining 4 inches on a vertical is definitely weird there really shouldnt be that much of a difference. I can see an 1" maybe 2 but 4 is a lot.

nycsportzfan
03-13-2011, 07:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</p>


</p>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</p>


</p>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</p>


</p>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</p> i was gonna ask u about Cyrus Gray.. Cool! Hes a beast... ALso, with Fuller at WR, and Tannehill at QB, there gonna be a potent offense at A&amp;M...

I was wondering if u could do micahel egnew vs IOWA game, if u get some time....

nycsportzfan
03-13-2011, 07:12 AM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine. The surfaces at the proday are better then the surfaces at the combine? So, all the schools have the same Surface for prodays? i don't know about that.. Also, that dosen't explain guys losing inches on there vertical(see brandon Harris and jimmy smith), or Losing Speed on there 40(see sherrod, Kj Wrigh and jeff maehlt, kendall hunter), and gaining inch's on there Height(see jaquizz rodgers) or improving there vertical by 4inches(see eric hagg), or improving there broad jump(see jeff maehl), or losing like 9lbs(see marcus cannon), or even crazier, 12lbs(see nate solder)..

I could go on like this forever, but u get the point....
Tracks absolutely vary.Some surfaces produce faster times some slower. The combine everyone is on even ground so I believe thats the best way to judge guys speed.I ignorepro day times because im unable to weigh it objectively against other players. Everyones weight varys from day to day most people have 5 pound swings in there weight on a normal basis.Guys like Cannon and Solder being over 300 pounds for them 10 pounds is really nothing. The height thing is weird and must be mistakes there is no way to explain that. Ive seen that with arm length 2. Your right that things vary from day to day somedays u just are in better physical condition. There really shouldnt be so much of a difference though. Hagg gaining 4 inches on a vertical is definitely weird there really shouldnt be that much of a difference. I can see an 1" maybe 2 but 4 is a lot. Diffrent, yes, better, i would have no idea...
Also, if it was so easy for guys to gain weight, why were u so worried about Earl Thomas's weight last yr, or anyone alittle underweight for that matter?

People are worried about SODERS weight, as they think he has a tough time keeping weight on, now... To me, the combine is one workout, and like any workout, u can have a good workout, or a bad one, and the next day, could be totally diffrent.. I'm to the point, where i don't have any belief in what i see there, excpet the fact its possible for whoever did what, to do it... Its all good though, just something i'm not gonna take much stock in at all, anynore.. Dont get me wrong, i'll always watch, and still be interested...

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 08:33 AM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine. The surfaces at the proday are better then the surfaces at the combine? So, all the schools have the same Surface for prodays? i don't know about that.. Also, that dosen't explain guys losing inches on there vertical(see brandon Harris and jimmy smith), or Losing Speed on there 40(see sherrod, Kj Wrigh and jeff maehlt, kendall hunter), and gaining inch's on there Height(see jaquizz rodgers) or improving there vertical by 4inches(see eric hagg), or improving there broad jump(see jeff maehl), or losing like 9lbs(see marcus cannon), or even crazier, 12lbs(see nate solder)..

I could go on like this forever, but u get the point....
Tracks absolutely vary.Some surfaces produce faster times some slower. The combine everyone is on even ground so I believe thats the best way to judge guys speed.I ignorepro day times because im unable to weigh it objectively against other players. Everyones weight varys from day to day most people have 5 pound swings in there weight on a normal basis.Guys like Cannon and Solder being over 300 pounds for them 10 pounds is really nothing. The height thing is weird and must be mistakes there is no way to explain that. Ive seen that with arm length 2. Your right that things vary from day to day somedays u just are in better physical condition. There really shouldnt be so much of a difference though. Hagg gaining 4 inches on a vertical is definitely weird there really shouldnt be that much of a difference. I can see an 1" maybe 2 but 4 is a lot. Diffrent, yes, better, i would have no idea...
Also, if it was so easy for guys to gain weight, why were u so worried about Earl Thomas's weight last yr, or anyone alittle underweight for that matter?

People are worried about SODERS weight, as they think he has a tough time keeping weight on, now... To me, the combine is one workout, and like any workout, u can have a good workout, or a bad one, and the next day, could be totally diffrent.. I'm to the point, where i don't have any belief in what i see there, excpet the fact its possible for whoever did what, to do it... Its all good though, just something i'm not gonna take much stock in at all, anynore.. Dont get me wrong, i'll always watch, and still be interested...
Earl Thomas wasnt 300 pounds and wasnt a tackle. 10 pounds that isnt muscle on a 190 pound guy could effect his speed. 320 to 300 isnt a big deal on a tackle 190 to 210 on a safety is.

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 09:56 AM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Draft-rumors-1715.htmlWes bunting</P>


The stock of <FONT size=5>Maryland RB Da’Rel Scott</FONT> (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)is through the roof right now after timing in with a sub-4.4 forty time at the NFL combine. I’ve heard from several sources of him potentially getting a look <FONT size=5>late in round one</FONT>. I don’t buy it personally, but you never know just how high a guy can rise after a good workout.</P>


Ummmm what.. I liked Scott as an option later in the draft but the first or even second round no way</P>


</P>


Talked with a scout the other day who said he thinks Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html) is a lock for round one. However, at the same time<FONT size=5> he said he would take Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick any day in the second round over using a first on Mallett</FONT>.</P>


I second that. There are things i like on tape from Mallet but everything i see on him is that he is a total head case</P>


• With the Dolphins in need of adding more playmakers to their tight end position, we are hearing that there is a significant interest from the Fins in Arkansas tight end D.J. Williams. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)</P>


I dont buy any of these types of reports it probably means they want Virgil Green.</P>


</P>


Pittsburgh DE Jabaal Sheard is the one guy who scouts seem to try to be keeping under the radar, as he’s quietly moving up draft boards. He had an impressive workout, showcases natural explosion off the snap and from what I’m hearing NFL teams aren’t real concerned with his character.</P>


I agree here as well very good tape. </P>

thegreatone
03-13-2011, 10:51 AM
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Draft-rumors-1715.htmlWes bunting</p>


The stock of <font size="5">Maryland RB Da’Rel Scott</font> (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)is through the roof right now after timing in with a sub-4.4 forty time at the NFL combine. I’ve heard from several sources of him potentially getting a look <font size="5">late in round one</font>. I don’t buy it personally, but you never know just how high a guy can rise after a good workout.</p>


Ummmm what.. I liked Scott as an option later in the draft but the first or even second round no way</p>


</p>


Talked with a scout the other day who said he thinks Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html) is a lock for round one. However, at the same time<font size="5"> he said he would take Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick any day in the second round over using a first on Mallett</font>.</p>


I second that. There are things i like on tape from Mallet but everything i see on him is that he is a total head case</p>


• With the Dolphins in need of adding more playmakers to their tight end position, we are hearing that there is a significant interest from the Fins in Arkansas tight end D.J. Williams. (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html)</p>


I dont buy any of these types of reports it probably means they want Virgil Green.</p>


</p>


Pittsburgh DE Jabaal Sheard is the one guy who scouts seem to try to be keeping under the radar, as he’s quietly moving up draft boards. He had an impressive workout, showcases natural explosion off the snap and from what I’m hearing NFL teams aren’t real concerned with his character.</p>


I agree here as well very good tape. </p>i 3rd that. me and nyc both liked him before the process began although i think i had more questions about him being in the pistol. having kept a close eye on him throughout the process i can say i trully believe he will be the best QB out of the bunch.

nycsportzfan
03-13-2011, 11:52 AM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine. The surfaces at the proday are better then the surfaces at the combine? So, all the schools have the same Surface for prodays? i don't know about that.. Also, that dosen't explain guys losing inches on there vertical(see brandon Harris and jimmy smith), or Losing Speed on there 40(see sherrod, Kj Wrigh and jeff maehlt, kendall hunter), and gaining inch's on there Height(see jaquizz rodgers) or improving there vertical by 4inches(see eric hagg), or improving there broad jump(see jeff maehl), or losing like 9lbs(see marcus cannon), or even crazier, 12lbs(see nate solder)..

I could go on like this forever, but u get the point....
Tracks absolutely vary.Some surfaces produce faster times some slower. The combine everyone is on even ground so I believe thats the best way to judge guys speed.I ignorepro day times because im unable to weigh it objectively against other players. Everyones weight varys from day to day most people have 5 pound swings in there weight on a normal basis.Guys like Cannon and Solder being over 300 pounds for them 10 pounds is really nothing. The height thing is weird and must be mistakes there is no way to explain that. Ive seen that with arm length 2. Your right that things vary from day to day somedays u just are in better physical condition. There really shouldnt be so much of a difference though. Hagg gaining 4 inches on a vertical is definitely weird there really shouldnt be that much of a difference. I can see an 1" maybe 2 but 4 is a lot. Diffrent, yes, better, i would have no idea...
Also, if it was so easy for guys to gain weight, why were u so worried about Earl Thomas's weight last yr, or anyone alittle underweight for that matter?

People are worried about SODERS weight, as they think he has a tough time keeping weight on, now... To me, the combine is one workout, and like any workout, u can have a good workout, or a bad one, and the next day, could be totally diffrent.. I'm to the point, where i don't have any belief in what i see there, excpet the fact its possible for whoever did what, to do it... Its all good though, just something i'm not gonna take much stock in at all, anynore.. Dont get me wrong, i'll always watch, and still be interested...
Earl Thomas wasnt 300 pounds and wasnt a tackle. 10 pounds that isnt muscle on a 190 pound guy could effect his speed. 320 to 300 isnt a big deal on a tackle 190 to 210 on a safety is. It totally depends on the OT... Again, people want more weight on Solder, and he lost 12lbs or soemthing, now scouts are wondering, if he can keep wait on, there talking about his stock dropping... Tyron Smith's stock soared just by weighing in, and just by his weight getting up to 300lbs... The point is, its easy for these guys to gain the weight they need to make people happy, or lose it...

Its ridiculous how diffrent the Combine/Prodays are, and not just 40's... I'm just not a believer in it, as i used to be.. I still will enjoy it, but as i used it as maybe 20pct of my judgement before, i'm now probably putting 10pct of my judgement in it...

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 12:29 PM
How the Heck did Jaquizz Rodgers gain a Inch in Height since the Combine??LOL Now, hes 5ft 7inch..lol He also ran a 4.47, big diffrence between that and 4.6something he ran at combine.. Also, Marcus Cannon lost like 8lbs or something since the combine.. I just don't get why we bother with the combine, outside of the drills, it seems, its that day, and the next can be 100pct diffrent, if u had it again... Oh well, people are slowely catching on....

Its something to do, i think, more then anything else....

God, i can't wait untill the draft.....


The surface of the tracks are different for the 40 times thats why u get such different times.Many pro days are run on fast tracks.The combine gives them a chance to put everybody on even ground to see how they stack up against each other.The scouts and coaches want to see how the kids react and perform out of there element when things are not controlled by there people.The Pro day stuff I throw out the window unless they didnt perform the drill or where hurt at the combine. The surfaces at the proday are better then the surfaces at the combine? So, all the schools have the same Surface for prodays? i don't know about that.. Also, that dosen't explain guys losing inches on there vertical(see brandon Harris and jimmy smith), or Losing Speed on there 40(see sherrod, Kj Wrigh and jeff maehlt, kendall hunter), and gaining inch's on there Height(see jaquizz rodgers) or improving there vertical by 4inches(see eric hagg), or improving there broad jump(see jeff maehl), or losing like 9lbs(see marcus cannon), or even crazier, 12lbs(see nate solder)..

I could go on like this forever, but u get the point....
Tracks absolutely vary.Some surfaces produce faster times some slower. The combine everyone is on even ground so I believe thats the best way to judge guys speed.I ignorepro day times because im unable to weigh it objectively against other players. Everyones weight varys from day to day most people have 5 pound swings in there weight on a normal basis.Guys like Cannon and Solder being over 300 pounds for them 10 pounds is really nothing. The height thing is weird and must be mistakes there is no way to explain that. Ive seen that with arm length 2. Your right that things vary from day to day somedays u just are in better physical condition. There really shouldnt be so much of a difference though. Hagg gaining 4 inches on a vertical is definitely weird there really shouldnt be that much of a difference. I can see an 1" maybe 2 but 4 is a lot. Diffrent, yes, better, i would have no idea...
Also, if it was so easy for guys to gain weight, why were u so worried about Earl Thomas's weight last yr, or anyone alittle underweight for that matter?

People are worried about SODERS weight, as they think he has a tough time keeping weight on, now... To me, the combine is one workout, and like any workout, u can have a good workout, or a bad one, and the next day, could be totally diffrent.. I'm to the point, where i don't have any belief in what i see there, excpet the fact its possible for whoever did what, to do it... Its all good though, just something i'm not gonna take much stock in at all, anynore.. Dont get me wrong, i'll always watch, and still be interested...
Earl Thomas wasnt 300 pounds and wasnt a tackle. 10 pounds that isnt muscle on a 190 pound guy could effect his speed. 320 to 300 isnt a big deal on a tackle 190 to 210 on a safety is. It totally depends on the OT... Again, people want more weight on Solder, and he lost 12lbs or soemthing, now scouts are wondering, if he can keep wait on, there talking about his stock dropping... Tyron Smith's stock soared just by weighing in, and just by his weight getting up to 300lbs... The point is, its easy for these guys to gain the weight they need to make people happy, or lose it...

Its ridiculous how different the Combine/Prodays are, and not just 40's... I'm just not a believer in it, as i used to be.. I still will enjoy it, but as i used it as maybe 20pct of my judgement before, i'm now probably putting 10pct of my judgement in it...
I agree with that. The more tape i watch the less stock I take in it.Really I like the drills the most to see there footwork becauseU rarely get those kinds of shots off game tape. Some positions I think it matters more then for others as well. Cornerbacks for instance dont wear that many pads during gamesand the drills that there put through translate pretty well.

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 01:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcQ5UvAWU4E</P>


</P>


Coryell Judie top corner prospect 2012 NFL Draft</P>

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 04:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</P>


</P>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</P>


</P>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</P>


</P>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</P>


i was gonna ask u about Cyrus Gray.. Cool! Hes a beast... ALso, with Fuller at WR, and Tannehill at QB, there gonna be a potent offense at A&amp;M...

I was wondering if u could do micahel egnew vs IOWA game, if u get some time....

</P>


Michael Egnew is definitely on the list he may be the best TE in the class . I have3 games with him Nebraska ,Iowa, and Illinois</P>

nycsportzfan
03-13-2011, 04:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</p>


</p>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</p>


</p>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</p>


</p>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</p>


i was gonna ask u about Cyrus Gray.. Cool! Hes a beast... ALso, with Fuller at WR, and Tannehill at QB, there gonna be a potent offense at A&amp;M...

I was wondering if u could do micahel egnew vs IOWA game, if u get some time....

</p>


Michael Egnew is definitely on the list he may be the best TE in the class . I have3 games with him Nebraska ,Iowa, and Illinois</p> Awesome... All good games... I just wanted to watch the game against Iowa alittle closer, as i seen it live, and he really had a good game, and i wanted to be able to go back and pause certain things and what not.. All 3 of those games, are good though, and any one will be fine by me... Hes a great pass catcher, kinda came outta nowhere this past yr..

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 05:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</P>


</P>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</P>


</P>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</P>


</P>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</P>


i was gonna ask u about Cyrus Gray.. Cool! Hes a beast... ALso, with Fuller at WR, and Tannehill at QB, there gonna be a potent offense at A&amp;M...

I was wondering if u could do micahel egnew vs IOWA game, if u get some time....

</P>


Michael Egnew is definitely on the list he may be the best TE in the class . I have3 games with him Nebraska ,Iowa, and Illinois</P>


Awesome... All good games... I just wanted to watch the game against Iowa alittle closer, as i seen it live, and he really had a good game, and i wanted to be able to go back and pause certain things and what not.. All 3 of those games, are good though, and any one will be fine by me... Hes a great pass catcher, kinda came outta nowhere this past yr..
He is a little light right now but he has the frame to put on weight and still keep his quickness. </P>


Im watching BC Nevada right now. Virgil Green blocks like a WR.</P>

nycsportzfan
03-13-2011, 06:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</p>


</p>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</p>


</p>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</p>


</p>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</p>


</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</p>


i was gonna ask u about Cyrus Gray.. Cool! Hes a beast... ALso, with Fuller at WR, and Tannehill at QB, there gonna be a potent offense at A&amp;M...

I was wondering if u could do micahel egnew vs IOWA game, if u get some time....

</p>


Michael Egnew is definitely on the list he may be the best TE in the class . I have3 games with him Nebraska ,Iowa, and Illinois</p>


Awesome... All good games... I just wanted to watch the game against Iowa alittle closer, as i seen it live, and he really had a good game, and i wanted to be able to go back and pause certain things and what not.. All 3 of those games, are good though, and any one will be fine by me... Hes a great pass catcher, kinda came outta nowhere this past yr..
He is a little light right now but he has the frame to put on weight and still keep his quickness. </p>


Im watching BC Nevada right now. Virgil Green blocks like a WR.</p> ya, hes a pass catcher... The thing is though, who knows in 3yrs what Virgil will be at in that progression of his game... If the values there, if not, u don't risk that you have another Beckum, and u move on..

VIrgil makes a Catch in that game, that was ridiculous that i believe they call incomplete, but it wasen't...

Also, u were showing that stuff about Da'rell Scott, and i didn't know if u knew, but Nic Grigsby of ARIZONA, had possibly the best Proday so far, with the best Vertical we've seen and a sub 4.40 at 4.38...

This is from CBS SPORTS, but its all over the web.. he killed it...

Running back Nic Grigsby was clocked at 4.38 seconds in the 40-yard
dash by one league source I spoke to following Saturday's workout. The
scout also noted that the 5-11, 199 pound Grigsby had a 43" vertical
jump, which would have led all Combine participants this year.
"

Redeyejedi
03-13-2011, 07:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xufNIWdcs</P>


</P>


Von Miller vs LSU Cotton Bowl</P>


</P>


2012 RB Prospect Cyrus Gray vs LSU</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiKfS2Olc9I</P>


</P>


Patrck Peterson vs Txas A&amp;M</P>


</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RDNEj9TFRM</P>


i was gonna ask u about Cyrus Gray.. Cool! Hes a beast... ALso, with Fuller at WR, and Tannehill at QB, there gonna be a potent offense at A&amp;M...

I was wondering if u could do micahel egnew vs IOWA game, if u get some time....

</P>


Michael Egnew is definitely on the list he may be the best TE in the class . I have3 games with him Nebraska ,Iowa, and Illinois</P>


Awesome... All good games... I just wanted to watch the game against Iowa alittle closer, as i seen it live, and he really had a good game, and i wanted to be able to go back and pause certain things and what not.. All 3 of those games, are good though, and any one will be fine by me... Hes a great pass catcher, kinda came outta nowhere this past yr..
He is a little light right now but he has the frame to put on weight and still keep his quickness. </P>


Im watching BC Nevada right now. Virgil Green blocks like a WR.</P> ya, hes a pass catcher... The thing is though, who knows in 3yrs what Virgil will be at in that progression of his game... If the values there, if not, u don't risk that you have another Beckum, and u move on..

VIrgil makes a Catch in that game, that was ridiculous that i believe they call incomplete, but it wasen't...

Also, u were showing that stuff about Da'rell Scott, and i didn't know if u knew, but Nic Grigsby of ARIZONA, had possibly the best Proday so far, with the best Vertical we've seen and a sub 4.40 at 4.38...

This is from CBS SPORTS, but its all over the web.. he killed it...

Running back Nic Grigsby was clocked at 4.38 seconds in the 40-yard dash by one league source I spoke to following Saturday's workout. The scout also noted that the 5-11, 199 pound Grigsby had a 43" vertical jump, which would have led all Combine participants this year.
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What I dont get about Scott is that most outlets were predicting him as a 6th rounder and then he runs a sub 4.4 now he is a late 1st, I dont get it. U cold tell Scott was fast on tape at least I could. I expected him to run a 4.4. The thing is speed was never the problem in the first place with Scott

NYG_inul
03-13-2011, 07:17 PM
WHOS THE FIRST TO BE PICKED?

NYG_inul
03-13-2011, 07:17 PM
GIANTS AT 19 OR 20 THIS YEAR? IVE BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP


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