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BlueSanta
10-17-2011, 04:40 AM
Bernard Pierce RB Temple who Redeye will tell u i said could be the best RB in the country last yr is just having a sensational season! This guys so the real deal! He has 17TD's rushing all ready! He litteraly was TEmPLES offense yesterday in a drubbing of U BUFF 37-0


I watched a temple game a few weeks back(not easy to get where I am) just because of this kid. He sure is a graceful runner and sure makes it hard to get a clean hit on him. I did see him swing it wide a couple times when the play didnt call for it, but it didnt seem like it was too ingraned of a bad habbit. He has a nasty side step cutback move that can make defenders look stupid. He also knews when to just get low and drive and get what he can. I liked what I saw. I also thought he was 1 of those gus that just looked like the fastest guy on the field when he got in space. I hope thats not a by product of his competition. I wish I could get more of their games cause he was worth watching.

Redeyejedi
10-17-2011, 07:02 AM
Bernard Pierce RB Temple who Redeye will tell u i said could be the best RB in the country last yr is just having a sensational season! This guys so the real deal! He has 17TD's rushing all ready! He litteraly was TEmPLES offense yesterday in a drubbing of U BUFF 37-0


I watched a temple game a few weeks back(not easy to get where I am) just because of this kid. He sure is a graceful runner and sure makes it hard to get a clean hit on him. I did see him swing it wide a couple times when the play didnt call for it, but it didnt seem like it was too ingraned of a bad habbit. He has a nasty side step cutback move that can make defenders look stupid. He also knews when to just get low and drive and get what he can. I liked what I saw. I also thought he was 1 of those gus that just looked like the fastest guy on the field when he got in space. I hope thats not a by product of his competition. I wish I could get more of their games cause he was worth watching.
Yeah competition has something to do with it but then U have to take into account he doesnt have an elite Oline either.

Redeyejedi
10-17-2011, 08:08 AM
Bernard Pierce RB Temple who Redeye will tell u i said could be the best RB in the country last yr is just having a sensational season! This guys so the real deal! He has 17TD's rushing all ready! He litteraly was TEmPLES offense yesterday in a drubbing of U BUFF 37-0


I watched a temple game a few weeks back(not easy to get where I am) just because of this kid. He sure is a graceful runner and sure makes it hard to get a clean hit on him. I did see him swing it wide a couple times when the play didnt call for it, but it didnt seem like it was too ingraned of a bad habbit. He has a nasty side step cutback move that can make defenders look stupid. He also knews when to just get low and drive and get what he can. I liked what I saw. I also thought he was 1 of those gus that just looked like the fastest guy on the field when he got in space. I hope thats not a by product of his competition. I wish I could get more of their games cause he was worth watching.
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<FONT color=#0033cc>Bernard Pierce vs Maryland 2011</FONT> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWpogXFELPw) </P>


is this the one</P>

thegreatone
10-17-2011, 10:22 AM
Ok its mock time! With the WIN over BUFFALO i have us going from pick 22 to Pick 25 So this mock is us picking 25th overall in the 2012 draft(changes come also from things we find out in our play on the field wk to wk as well)


1 Luke Kuechly ILB BC- I think Kuechly could add the missing ingriedient to this LB core with his aggresive style and non stop motor and with Goff's injury its not a bad idea and if Kuechly is here at pick 25 its solid value

2 Chris Polk RB Washington- Jacobs days are numbered and we could use a bruiser with solid speed like Polk to team with Bradshaw going forward Polk is a load!

3 Kendall Reyes DT UCONN- If u don't know Reyes u should really start to! The guys having a fantastic season and with austin going to not played in 2yrs by the time he returns and Canty another yr older we gotta grab another stout DT for the rotation and possibly more down the road Reyes Can get to the QB and has a nice long reach he should be able to use batting balls and wrapping up rb's

4 William Vlachos C Bama- A very good C prospect who could either play behind Baas or kick Baas over to G I like Vlachos alot and think theres not a ton seperating him from guys like Pete Konz and Ben Jones The usually consensus 2-3 C's in this yrs draft behind Webster

5 Trumaine Johnson CB/S montana- my small school Gem for this yr goes to Johnson as hes got great size/speed combonation and can make plays and also Return Kicks if need be Hes a former WR Hes on teams Radars thats for sure This guy has a chance to be a steal

6 Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Can do it with feet and Arm Puts up bigtime numbers and is still doing it after losing guys like chad spann to the NFL A very fun kid to watch play No Illinois has been a huge point scoring team since Harnish took over

7 Jarett Boykin WR Va Tech- A solidly built (listed 6ft 2inc 222lb) big play WR would can make the tough grab and has been the "guy" at WR for Va tech for a few yrs now So deep at WR guys like Boykin should slip right through the cracks and we could use a guy for depth if we lose mario and with getting Jerrnigan last yr and Bardens injury problems it makes some sense to get a Bigger Bodied WR if possible

There is this Weeks mock!


1.Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame: Kinda depends on how jones finishes out the season and also idk if fewell even like lbr's in his defense lol. This kid is an amazing talent and even though it seems we struck late draft gold with our lb'rs this kid could be a day 1 starter.(another possible:DT alameda ta'amu )

2.Jayron Hoseley CB Virginia Tech: Webster is hit or miss, TT will be coming off a major injury and while ross has been outstanding so far it is a contract year and with how FO's have to spend their money now he might get offered more money thatn we are able to spend. That'll leave prince and hosely, while not in the giants mold, is a great CB. (AP:FS Robert Lester)

3. Ben Jones C Georgia: Need to upgrade this oline. If koets can come back strong maybe this isnt as glaring a need but our oline must also continue to gell. personally i just dont like our depth.(AP:kendall Wright WR)

4.Antonio Allen SS South Carolina: Biggest Weakness has been our secondary and i think safety play has a lot to do with it. Grant has fallen way off this year, rolle is hit or miss and while KP has seemed to steadily get better he still hasnt "broke out" and we have sash who i have high hopes for.(AP:Amini Silatolu OG)

5.Lance Lewis WR ECU : guy is a great reciever that could either add depth or be our slot guy if MM leaves.(AP:Keith Tandy CB WVU)

6.Mark Tyler RB USC : like your idea of adding another bruiser(AP:Derek Wolfe DT CIN)

7. Tydreke Powell DT UNC : Need help upfront.(AP: a good QB?)

i think this is a possible scenario and not exactly who i'd pick.

Redeyejedi
10-17-2011, 11:31 AM
Hey Sportzfan werent we told Sean Lee wasnt going to be good in the NFL. He looks pretty good to me

thegreatone
10-17-2011, 02:28 PM
Hey Sportzfan werent we told Sean Lee wasnt going to be good in the NFL. He looks pretty good to mei dont remember anyone saying he wouldnt be good. i do remember a lot of people questioning his durability. just think by the end of the year when we play or maybe next year they'll have bruce carter in there as well. ware,lee,carter...damn

lawl
10-17-2011, 03:54 PM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</P>


Gonna bump.</P>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</P>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </P>


Pretty big difference</P>

BlueSanta
10-17-2011, 04:59 PM
Hey Sportzfan werent we told Sean Lee wasnt going to be good in the NFL. He looks pretty good to me

I dont remember nearly as much of a negative reaction about Lee as I did about Poz. I do remember liking Lee more for a 34 than a 43 though, which got a few people mad at me.

I never thought much of Poz who was quite popular on these boards.

nycsportzfan
10-17-2011, 07:46 PM
Hey Sportzfan werent we told Sean Lee wasnt going to be good in the NFL. He looks pretty good to me

I dont remember nearly as much of a negative reaction about Lee as I did about Poz. I do remember liking Lee more for a 34 than a 43 though, which got a few people mad at me.

I never thought much of Poz who was quite popular on these boards.



Its becasue of Poz that Lee got negative attention LOL People tend to get bad wraps if that positon from that school(like TEXAS and Safetys before my boy Earl thomas put a end to that!) has a few duds in a row I never think like that but quite a few did I actually said of LEE like i did Chad Jones "they remind me of giants draft picks" Obviously we drafted JONES but LEE has that Giant Feel to him as well Anyhow LB's outta Penn St seem to get a bum wrap but hopefully LEE will change that perception

BlueSanta
10-18-2011, 04:48 AM
Hey Sportzfan werent we told Sean Lee wasnt going to be good in the NFL. He looks pretty good to me

I dont remember nearly as much of a negative reaction about Lee as I did about Poz. I do remember liking Lee more for a 34 than a 43 though, which got a few people mad at me.

I never thought much of Poz who was quite popular on these boards.



Its becasue of Poz that Lee got negative attention LOL People tend to get bad wraps if that positon from that school(like TEXAS and Safetys before my boy Earl thomas put a end to that!) has a few duds in a row I never think like that but quite a few did I actually said of LEE like i did Chad Jones "they remind me of giants draft picks" Obviously we drafted JONES but LEE has that Giant Feel to him as well Anyhow LB's outta Penn St seem to get a bum wrap but hopefully LEE will change that perception

ehh i dunno. I agree with everything your saying up until you say PSU Lbs get a bum wrap. If anything I think its the opposite.

nycsportzfan
10-18-2011, 06:25 AM
Hey Sportzfan werent we told Sean Lee wasnt going to be good in the NFL. He looks pretty good to me

I dont remember nearly as much of a negative reaction about Lee as I did about Poz. I do remember liking Lee more for a 34 than a 43 though, which got a few people mad at me.

I never thought much of Poz who was quite popular on these boards.



Its becasue of Poz that Lee got negative attention LOL People tend to get bad wraps if that positon from that school(like TEXAS and Safetys before my boy Earl thomas put a end to that!) has a few duds in a row I never think like that but quite a few did I actually said of LEE like i did Chad Jones "they remind me of giants draft picks" Obviously we drafted JONES but LEE has that Giant Feel to him as well Anyhow LB's outta Penn St seem to get a bum wrap but hopefully LEE will change that perception

ehh i dunno. I agree with everything your saying up until you say PSU Lbs get a bum wrap. If anything I think its the opposite.
U serious? I don't know most i seen kinda started thinking down on em for awhile and that Sean Lee was just the next in line for that But hey no biggie

Redeyejedi
10-18-2011, 08:02 AM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</P>


Gonna bump.</P>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</P>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </P>


Pretty big difference</P>


</P>


Probably 2nd /3rd </P>

nycsportzfan
10-18-2011, 09:15 AM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</p>


Gonna bump.</p>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</p>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </p>


Pretty big difference</p>


</p>


Probably 2nd /3rd </p> It'll be intersting to see where guys like Crick and Knile Davis fall in the draft Knile would be ideal backup to Bradshaw with Scott as our 3rd back for the future

Raptor22
10-18-2011, 10:42 AM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</p>


Gonna bump.</p>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</p>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </p>


Pretty big difference</p>


</p>


Probably 2nd /3rd </p> It'll be intersting to see where guys like Crick and Knile Davis fall in the draft Knile would be ideal backup to Bradshaw with Scott as our 3rd back for the future



Those will be interesting. Also, I want to see where Jenkins and Kellen Moore go. First round talents without a doubt, but will GM's talk themselves out of picks because of "character issues" or "Measureables" (respectively, although measureables could work against Jenkins as well).

and, now that I think of it, add Cliff Harris and LaMicheal James to that list of possible fallers.

Redeyejedi
10-18-2011, 11:15 AM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</P>


Gonna bump.</P>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</P>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </P>


Pretty big difference</P>


</P>


Probably 2nd /3rd </P> It'll be intersting to see where guys like Crick and Knile Davis fall in the draft Knile would be ideal backup to Bradshaw with Scott as our 3rd back for the future
u think Davis will come out? The one thing about Knile Davis that I readand didnt realize was how many injurieshe has had on that ankle.RB's with multiple injuries to there ankles arent coveted on draft day. Its not beyond reason that he could fall into the 5th round

nycsportzfan
10-18-2011, 09:07 PM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</p>


Gonna bump.</p>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</p>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </p>


Pretty big difference</p>


</p>


Probably 2nd /3rd </p> It'll be intersting to see where guys like Crick and Knile Davis fall in the draft Knile would be ideal backup to Bradshaw with Scott as our 3rd back for the future



Those will be interesting. Also, I want to see where Jenkins and Kellen Moore go. First round talents without a doubt, but will GM's talk themselves out of picks because of "character issues" or "Measureables" (respectively, although measureables could work against Jenkins as well).

and, now that I think of it, add Cliff Harris and LaMicheal James to that list of possible fallers.
Very true! I also wonder if Nick Foles will get into the 1st round ala Christian Ponder and then we'd have similar to what we had last yr with the run on QB's(landry/Luck/Foles/Tannehill) so guys like Prince Amukamura can fall Its gonna be wild draft yet again

nycsportzfan
10-19-2011, 06:39 AM
i was just looking at the 2006 NFL draft for some reason and saw RD 4 and thought to myself for a RD 4 This is pretty freaking good!!lol Look at some of those names Cofield/ Dumervill/ brad smith/ Owen daniels/ tulloch/ gostowski/ jean=giles/ brandon marshall/ jason avant/ peko/ leon washington/ hixon/ ray edwards etc That is a nice RD 4!! Sorry i just thought i'd share!!!LOL
<table class="sortable stats_table" id="drafts"><tbody><tr data-row="103" class=""><td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">98</td>
<td align="left">HOU (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/htx/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Owen Daniels (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaniOw00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">TE</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">6</td>
<td align="right">34</td>
<td align="right">71</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">268</td>
<td align="right">3256</td>
<td align="right">20</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Wisconsin (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/wisconsin/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="104" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">99</td>
<td align="left">PHI (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Max Jean-Gilles (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JeanMa20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">G</td>
<td align="right">2010</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">42</td>
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<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Georgia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/georgia/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="105" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">100</td>
<td align="left">SFO (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Michael Robinson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RobiMi00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">76</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">28</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">102</td>
<td align="right">373</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">52</td>
<td align="right">390</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Penn St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/pennst/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="106" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">101</td>
<td align="left">OAK (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Darnell Bing (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BingDa00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DB</td>
<td align="right">2009</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="left">USC (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/usc/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="107" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">102</td>
<td align="left">TEN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Calvin Lowry (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/L/LowrCa20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DB</td>
<td align="right">2008</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">48</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">63</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Penn St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/pennst/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="108" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">103</td>
<td align="left">NYJ (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Brad Smith (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitBr01.htm)</td>
<td align="left">QB</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">82</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">8</td>
<td align="right">51</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">113</td>
<td align="right">837</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">66</td>
<td align="right">582</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Missouri (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/missouri/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="109" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">104</td>
<td align="left">GNB (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Cory Rodgers</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="left">TCU (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/tcu/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="110" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">105</td>
<td align="left">BUF (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Ko Simpson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SimpKo20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DB</td>
<td align="right">2009</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">14</td>
<td align="right">41</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">127</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">1.0</td>
<td align="left">South Carolina (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/socarolina/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="111" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">106</td>
<td align="left">NWE (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Garrett Mills (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MillGa01.htm)</td>
<td align="left">FB</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">9</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Tulsa (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/tulsa/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="112" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">107</td>
<td align="left">ARI (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/crd/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Gabe Watson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsGa20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DT</td>
<td align="right">2010</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">11</td>
<td align="right">62</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">81</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">2.0</td>
<td align="left">Michigan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/michigan/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="113" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">108</td>
<td align="left">NOR (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nor/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Jahri Evans (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EvanJa21.htm)</td>
<td align="left">T</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">53</td>
<td align="right">86</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Bloomsburg (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/bloomsburg/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="114" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">109</td>
<td align="left">PHI (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Jason Avant (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AvanJa00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">16</td>
<td align="right">76</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">180</td>
<td align="right">2210</td>
<td align="right">9</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Michigan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/michigan/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="115" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="left">CLE (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Leon Williams (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WillLe20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">LB</td>
<td align="right">2010</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">9</td>
<td align="right">57</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">123</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
<td align="left">
</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="116" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">111</td>
<td align="left">BAL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Demetrius Williams (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WillDe03.htm)</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">2010</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">9</td>
<td align="right">46</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">63</td>
<td align="right">1008</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Oregon (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/oregon/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="117" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">112</td>
<td align="left">CLE (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Isaac Sowells (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SoweIs20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">T</td>
<td align="right">2008</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">17</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Indiana (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/indiana/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="118" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">113</td>
<td align="left">STL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Victor Adeyanju (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AdeyVi20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DE</td>
<td align="right">2009</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">14</td>
<td align="right">53</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">97</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">3.0</td>
<td align="left">Indiana (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/indiana/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="119" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">114</td>
<td align="left">TEN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Joe Toledo</td>
<td align="left">T</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Washington (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/washington/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="120" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">115</td>
<td align="left">GNB (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Will Blackmon (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlacWi20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DB</td>
<td align="right">2010</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">6</td>
<td align="right">37</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">22</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Boston Col. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/bostoncol/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="121" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">116</td>
<td align="left">TEN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Stephen Tulloch (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TullSt20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">LB</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">24</td>
<td align="right">86</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">355</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">6.5</td>
<td align="left">North Carolina St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/nocarolinast/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="122" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">117</td>
<td align="left">NYJ (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Leon Washington (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WashLe00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">RB</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">27</td>
<td align="right">76</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">36</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">406</td>
<td align="right">1921</td>
<td align="right">14</td>
<td align="right">136</td>
<td align="right">1074</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">6</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Florida St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/floridast/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="123" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">118</td>
<td align="left">NWE (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Stephen Gostkowski (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GostSt20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">K</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">78</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Memphis (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/memphis/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="124" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">119</td>
<td align="left">DEN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Brandon Marshall (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MarsBr00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">39</td>
<td align="right">80</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">18</td>
<td align="right">107</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">441</td>
<td align="right">5455</td>
<td align="right">29</td>
<td align="right">7</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Central Florida (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/centralflorida/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="125" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">120</td>
<td align="left">CHI (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Jamar Williams (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WillJa21.htm)</td>
<td align="left">LB</td>
<td align="right">2010</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">54</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">58</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">1.0</td>
<td align="left">Arizona St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/arizonast/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="126" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">121</td>
<td align="left">CAR (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Nate Salley (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SallNa20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DB</td>
<td align="right">2008</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">2</td>
<td align="right">24</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Ohio St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/ohiost/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="127" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">122</td>
<td align="left">TAM (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/tam/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Alan Zemaitis</td>
<td align="left">DB</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Penn St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/pennst/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="128" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">123</td>
<td align="left">CIN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Domata Peko (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PekoDo20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DT</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">26</td>
<td align="right">81</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">137</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">5.0</td>
<td align="left">Michigan St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/michiganst/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="129" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">124</td>
<td align="left">NYG (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Barry Cofield (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CofiBa20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DT</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">6</td>
<td align="right">31</td>
<td align="right">84</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">159</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">11.5</td>
<td align="left">Northwestern (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/northwestern/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="130" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">125</td>
<td align="left">DAL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Skyler Green (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeSk20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">2008</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">11</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">33</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">LSU (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/lsu/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="131" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">126</td>
<td align="left">DEN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Elvis Dumervil (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DumeEl20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DE</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">28</td>
<td align="right">64</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">110</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">43.0</td>
<td align="left">Louisville (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/louisville/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="132" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">127</td>
<td align="left">MIN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Ray Edwards (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EdwaRa21.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DE</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">29</td>
<td align="right">78</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">151</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">31.5</td>
<td align="left">Purdue (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/purdue/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="133" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">128</td>
<td align="left">SEA (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sea/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Rob Sims (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SimsRo20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">G</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">18</td>
<td align="right">67</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
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</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">5</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Ohio St. (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/ohiost/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="134" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">129</td>
<td align="left">NYG (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Guy Whimper (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WhimGu20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">DE</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">41</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
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</td>
<td align="left">East Carolina (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/eastcarolina/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="135" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">130</td>
<td align="left">DEN (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Domenik Hixon (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HixoDo00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">WR</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">12</td>
<td align="right">48</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">3</td>
<td align="right">18</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">63</td>
<td align="right">838</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Akron (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/akron/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="136" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">131</td>
<td align="left">PIT (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">Willie Colon (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ColoWi20.htm)</td>
<td align="left">G</td>
<td align="right">2011</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">21</td>
<td align="right">51</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
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</td>
<td align="left">Hofstra (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/hofstra/)</td>
</tr>
<tr data-row="137" class="">
<td align="right">4</td>
<td align="right">132</td>
<td align="left">BAL (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rav/2006_draft.htm)</td>
<td align="left">P.J. Daniels (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaniP.00.htm)</td>
<td align="left">RB</td>
<td align="right">2007</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">0</td>
<td align="right">1</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
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<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="right">
</td>
<td align="left">Georgia Tech (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/colleges/georgiatech/)</td>
</tr>
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<td align="right">
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nycsportzfan
10-19-2011, 08:41 AM
Knile Davis. What round will this guy probably get drafted in?</p>


Gonna bump.</p>


Was this kid supposed to go in the 1st round this year if he didnt get injured?</p>


I've read 1st round and I've read 3rd round. </p>


Pretty big difference</p>


</p>


Probably 2nd /3rd </p> It'll be intersting to see where guys like Crick and Knile Davis fall in the draft Knile would be ideal backup to Bradshaw with Scott as our 3rd back for the future
u think Davis will come out? The one thing about Knile Davis that I readand didnt realize was how many injurieshe has had on that ankle.RB's with multiple injuries to there ankles arent coveted on draft day. Its not beyond reason that he could fall into the 5th round maybe not but u gotta admit we've seen some pretty dumb decisons by these prospects deciding to come out when u pretty much know they got no chance of going in the first 5 or 6 rounds Alot crazier then Knile Davis thats for sure!!lol

nycsportzfan
10-19-2011, 08:58 AM
Bernard Pierce RB Temple who Redeye will tell u i said could be the best RB in the country last yr is just having a sensational season! This guys so the real deal! He has 17TD's rushing all ready! He litteraly was TEmPLES offense yesterday in a drubbing of U BUFF 37-0


I watched a temple game a few weeks back(not easy to get where I am) just because of this kid. He sure is a graceful runner and sure makes it hard to get a clean hit on him. I did see him swing it wide a couple times when the play didnt call for it, but it didnt seem like it was too ingraned of a bad habbit. He has a nasty side step cutback move that can make defenders look stupid. He also knews when to e k just get low and drive and get what he can. I liked what I saw. I also thought he was 1 of those gus that just looked like the fastest guy on the field when he got in space. I hope thats not a by product of his competition. I wish I could get more of their games cause he was worth watching.
Yeah competition has something to do with it but then U have to take into account he doesnt have an elite Oline either. and litteraly every team just game plans for Pierce and 99pct of the time can't stop him The kids got the Size/Speed(broke records in track i believe in high school?) power and moves He only lacks Catching ability which could change depending on what offense drafts him I wonder if he'll come out this yr or not? There is a nice Bruiser Type RB class out there this yr with Polk/Richardson/ possible lamar miller/ i think montee ball coes out / possibly christine michael/ taruen poole That said outside of Trent Richardson there is no gurantee he won't go ahead of everyone else on that list

thegreatone
10-19-2011, 09:50 AM
wow datko from fsu reportedly done for the year?

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10-19-2011, 03:36 PM
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BlueSanta
10-19-2011, 04:03 PM
wow datko from fsu reportedly done for the year?


Itsa shame, he is a good player. But that is the 2nd injury to that shoulder. He would have been a early- mid round pick but now he may have work to do just to get drafted. That shoulder is a serious concern. I wish him luck.

thegreatone
10-19-2011, 04:51 PM
wow datko from fsu reportedly done for the year?


Itsa shame, he is a good player. But that is the 2nd injury to that shoulder. He would have been a early- mid round pick but now he may have work to do just to get drafted. That shoulder is a serious concern. I wish him luck.
Yeah I saw that and his stock could fall considerably. Maybe worth a look if he falls far enough

NCGiant23
10-20-2011, 02:44 PM
Hey Redeye, board,

What do you all think of the pro potential of Tajh Boyd of Clemson (if any)? He still has a yr to go, and I doubt he leaves early, but if he keeps putting up the numbers he has thus far it's not outside the realm of possibility.

thegreatone
10-20-2011, 03:46 PM
Hey Redeye, board,

What do you all think of the pro potential of Tajh Boyd of Clemson (if any)? He still has a yr to go, and I doubt he leaves early, but if he keeps putting up the numbers he has thus far it's not outside the realm of possibility.
i love everyone on that team. boyd seems to have a lot of potential but im very wary of taking qb's with only one season under their belt albeit a very good season. he needs to stay in school another year . with all the young weapons they have i think he could improve his stock considerably.

i think its possible griffin stays as well.

nycsportzfan
10-20-2011, 08:56 PM
I got a great question for any of you guys. Lets say the GIANTS are picking in the 2nd round of the draft and they want to take a RB to be jacobs future replacement and these 3guys are on the board, who are u taking?? LAMAR MILLER THE U / CHRIS POLK WASH / MONTEE BALL BADGERS/ BERNARD PIERCE OWLS Now that is a tough question!



Me personally, i really like them all but would come down to BERNARD PIERCE and MONTEE BALL. I'd eventually side with BERNARD PIERCE..

Redeyejedi
10-20-2011, 09:20 PM
Hey Redeye, board,

What do you all think of the pro potential of Tajh Boyd of Clemson (if any)? He still has a yr to go, and I doubt he leaves early, but if he keeps putting up the numbers he has thus far it's not outside the realm of possibility.
i love everyone on that team. boyd seems to have a lot of potential but im very wary of taking qb's with only one season under their belt albeit a very good season. he needs to stay in school another year . with all the young weapons they have i think he could improve his stock considerably.

i think its possible griffin stays as well.
Just not enough film to go on yet. He has a quick release I like that. If I had to guess Id say he is more of a middle round prospect but again I just havent seen enough to be sold either way

nycsportzfan
10-21-2011, 06:05 AM
Man, How good did Nick Foles look against UCLA? Jesus! Dude has a bigtime arm and can move a bit around in the pocket and throw on the run.. I haven't been his biggest fan but u can see the tools, thats for sure.. And Criner was out of this world as well. Hes kinda fell behind the other top wr's a tad because of injury's but i tell ya what, as i said last yr, hes as good as any of them..

nycsportzfan
10-21-2011, 06:38 AM
I have mentioned TRUMAINE JOHNSON CB/S MONTANA as my top SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER this yr and i felt hes on Teams radars and gonna move up in mocks and he all ready is doing so.. This is from WALT FOOTBALL and its our 3rd Rd pick... They got us going

1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
2. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
3. Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana


U guys really need to start getting any tidbits on this Johnson guy.. He can ball! I wish i could see him live once or twice...

titwio
10-21-2011, 07:48 AM
Orson Charles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STuHCseqOfc/)....Wouldn't mind taking a look at this guy in the second or third. Freak TE 6'3 230 runs 4.5 and has gotten a lot better as a blocker (should add weight as players do around combine and draft). He's pretty raw and the Giants seem to like guys like this. Very athletic.

Reminds me of Keller meets Vernon Davis. Tons of upside and I can see him tearing it up at the combine.

bandwgn86
10-21-2011, 08:09 AM
I've been following, as much as I can seeing I don't like college ball, a local kid that's playing DE for Boise. Tyrone Crawford.

Ranked like 140 in 2012 draft, I should probably not get my hopes up to see him in the NFL eh?

thegreatone
10-21-2011, 08:15 AM
I have mentioned TRUMAINE JOHNSON CB/S MONTANA as my top SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER this yr and i felt hes on Teams radars and gonna move up in mocks and he all ready is doing so.. This is from WALT FOOTBALL and its our 3rd Rd pick... They got us going

1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
2. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
3. Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana


U guys really need to start getting any tidbits on this Johnson guy.. He can ball! I wish i could see him live once or twice...
yeah idk anything about him. if yu get any info please share. on a side note those first 2 picks are money.

Redeyejedi
10-21-2011, 08:33 AM
I have mentioned TRUMAINE JOHNSON CB/S MONTANA as my top SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER this yr and i felt hes on Teams radars and gonna move up in mocks and he all ready is doing so.. This is from WALT FOOTBALL and its our 3rd Rd pick... They got us going

1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
2. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
3. Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana


U guys really need to start getting any tidbits on this Johnson guy.. He can ball! I wish i could see him live once or twice...
I have Tenn vs Montana did he play well in that game I didnt watch it</P>


I really like Minnifield but the only Virgina game I have is versus Georgia Tech and there not the best game to do cornerback videos. He only got thrown at once which he intercepted by the way</P>

shocknaweny
10-21-2011, 01:35 PM
I am all about the running back in Alabama....or Mathieu out of LSU would be nice too....but both of these guys are probably top 10 picks .

nycsportzfan
10-21-2011, 05:09 PM
I have mentioned TRUMAINE JOHNSON CB/S MONTANA as my top SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER this yr and i felt hes on Teams radars and gonna move up in mocks and he all ready is doing so.. This is from WALT FOOTBALL and its our 3rd Rd pick... They got us going

1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
2. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
3. Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana


U guys really need to start getting any tidbits on this Johnson guy.. He can ball! I wish i could see him live once or twice...
I have Tenn vs Montana did he play well in that game I didnt watch it</p>


I really like Minnifield but the only Virgina game I have is versus Georgia Tech and there not the best game to do cornerback videos. He only got thrown at once which he intercepted by the way</p> i forgot to post the part from WALT FOOTBALL...lol It actually tells us about his game VS Tennesee... He actually did do well enough.. 7tackle 1pass defended 1forced fumble...

http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/giantsb_logo.gif
New York Giants: Trumaine Johnson, CB/S, Montana http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Montana_logo.gif



The Giants addressed the cornerback position with Prince Amukamara last
year, but cornerback Terrell Thomas was lost for the season and he is in
a contract year. Aaron Ross has had a hard time staying healthy, and
Amukamara broke his foot to miss the early portion of his rookie season.




The FCS-standout Trumaine Johnson has an excellent combination of size
and speed. The 6-foot-2, 197-pounder has unique physical tools and
consistent production. He became a starter as a true freshman and
recorded four interceptions. In 2009, despite missing four games,
Johnson had five interceptions with 12 passes broken up and 54 tackles
on the season. Last year, he had four interceptions with seven passes
defensed and 44 tackles. Johnson held his own against Tennessee in the
first game of the season with seven tackles, a pass broken up and a
forced fumble. Thus far in 2011, he has 26 tackles with 2.5 tackles for a
loss and six passes broken up.

thegreatone
10-21-2011, 07:54 PM
I have mentioned TRUMAINE JOHNSON CB/S MONTANA as my top SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER this yr and i felt hes on Teams radars and gonna move up in mocks and he all ready is doing so.. This is from WALT FOOTBALL and its our 3rd Rd pick... They got us going

1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
2. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
3. Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana


U guys really need to start getting any tidbits on this Johnson guy.. He can ball! I wish i could see him live once or twice...
I have Tenn vs Montana did he play well in that game I didnt watch it</p>


I really like Minnifield but the only Virgina game I have is versus Georgia Tech and there not the best game to do cornerback videos. He only got thrown at once which he intercepted by the way</p> i forgot to post the part from WALT FOOTBALL...lol It actually tells us about his game VS Tennesee... He actually did do well enough.. 7tackle 1pass defended 1forced fumble...

http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/giantsb_logo.gif
New York Giants: Trumaine Johnson, CB/S, Montana http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Montana_logo.gif



The Giants addressed the cornerback position with Prince Amukamara last
year, but cornerback Terrell Thomas was lost for the season and he is in
a contract year. Aaron Ross has had a hard time staying healthy, and
Amukamara broke his foot to miss the early portion of his rookie season.




The FCS-standout Trumaine Johnson has an excellent combination of size
and speed. The 6-foot-2, 197-pounder has unique physical tools and
consistent production. He became a starter as a true freshman and
recorded four interceptions. In 2009, despite missing four games,
Johnson had five interceptions with 12 passes broken up and 54 tackles
on the season. Last year, he had four interceptions with seven passes
defensed and 44 tackles. Johnson held his own against Tennessee in the
first game of the season with seven tackles, a pass broken up and a
forced fumble. Thus far in 2011, he has 26 tackles with 2.5 tackles for a
loss and six passes broken up.
sounds like a "giants mold" cb. i like it.

want to give a shoutout to danny webster from ecu tomorrow he will be the focal point of the offense as lance lewis and a few other are out due to injury. he had 6 catches for 54 yards in the first half of last weeks game before getting a hip pointer.

funny story, his mom hired me today for a management job lol.

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 01:03 PM
I have mentioned TRUMAINE JOHNSON CB/S MONTANA as my top SMALL SCHOOL PLAYER this yr and i felt hes on Teams radars and gonna move up in mocks and he all ready is doing so.. This is from WALT FOOTBALL and its our 3rd Rd pick... They got us going

1. Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
2. Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
3. Trumaine Johnson CB/S Montana


U guys really need to start getting any tidbits on this Johnson guy.. He can ball! I wish i could see him live once or twice...
I have Tenn vs Montana did he play well in that game I didnt watch it</p>


I really like Minnifield but the only Virgina game I have is versus Georgia Tech and there not the best game to do cornerback videos. He only got thrown at once which he intercepted by the way</p> i forgot to post the part from WALT FOOTBALL...lol It actually tells us about his game VS Tennesee... He actually did do well enough.. 7tackle 1pass defended 1forced fumble...

http://www.walterfootball.com/images/fball/giantsb_logo.gif
New York Giants: Trumaine Johnson, CB/S, Montana http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Montana_logo.gif



The Giants addressed the cornerback position with Prince Amukamara last
year, but cornerback Terrell Thomas was lost for the season and he is in
a contract year. Aaron Ross has had a hard time staying healthy, and
Amukamara broke his foot to miss the early portion of his rookie season.




The FCS-standout Trumaine Johnson has an excellent combination of size
and speed. The 6-foot-2, 197-pounder has unique physical tools and
consistent production. He became a starter as a true freshman and
recorded four interceptions. In 2009, despite missing four games,
Johnson had five interceptions with 12 passes broken up and 54 tackles
on the season. Last year, he had four interceptions with seven passes
defensed and 44 tackles. Johnson held his own against Tennessee in the
first game of the season with seven tackles, a pass broken up and a
forced fumble. Thus far in 2011, he has 26 tackles with 2.5 tackles for a
loss and six passes broken up.
sounds like a "giants mold" cb. i like it.

want to give a shoutout to danny webster from ecu tomorrow he will be the focal point of the offense as lance lewis and a few other are out due to injury. he had 6 catches for 54 yards in the first half of last weeks game before getting a hip pointer.

funny story, his mom hired me today for a management job lol.
congrats on the employment! I'll keep a eye on webster!

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 01:05 PM
i'm watching Illinois/Purdue right now... I thought i would say that Sheehasse dude is absoulutley terrible! My god!

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 01:09 PM
i'm watching Illinois/Purdue right now... I thought i would say that Sheehasse dude is absoulutley terrible! My god!
Both Illinois ends are good Merciulus is having a hell of a season. Im watching Clemson UNC much better prospects in that game

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 01:28 PM
Who is more overrated Quinton Coples who is still being touted as a Top 10 pick even though he causes zero pressure fromhis weakside end spot or Donte Paige Moss he doesnt even start anymore. What happened to these guys there both invisible this season Kareem Martin has looked like the best end on that team.

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 01:40 PM
i'm watching Illinois/Purdue right now... I thought i would say that Sheehasse dude is absoulutley terrible! My god!
Both Illinois ends are good Merciulus is having a hell of a season. Im watching Clemson UNC much better prospects in that game ya, but i can find footage of those guys everywhere and twice on sundays...lol I like to catch looks at guys i won't see on youtube/here/ and draftsites.. Plus i got money on the OVER...lol


Marvin Mcnutt with 5catches 174yrds 3tds in first half against hoosiers... If barden can't stay healthy, a guy like Mcnutt or Dwight jones would be ideal to put with Nicks and Jerrnigan and Cruz and possibly Mario(if he dont leave via fa'cy) going forward

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Who is more overrated Quinton Coples who is still being touted as a Top 10 pick even though he causes zero pressure fromhis weakside end spot or Donte Paige Moss he doesnt even start anymore. What happened to these guys there both invisible this season Kareem Martin has looked like the best end on that team.North Carolina Defenders are doing nothing in the pro's it seems lately... Hopefully Marvin Austin will change that next yr, but u here nothing about most UNC prospects that came out in recent yrs.. Seems like the DT Sims started a bad trend for UNC Defensive players

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 01:48 PM
Kawaan Short DT Purdue is really impressive.. Hes not making "bigplays" today but certainly a huge part at stopping that Illinois rush attack so far..

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 01:58 PM
i'm watching Illinois/Purdue right now... I thought i would say that Sheehasse dude is absoulutley terrible! My god!
Can we just stop with these idiot QB's who can't throw and all u have is some athletic ability, please! I am sick of these idiot QB's who can't throw a freaking football to save there lives but every other quarter they scramble for a first down or something, so its ok...lol Smarten up coaches! U can't win with the Nate Sheelhaases of the world, u just can't! Sheelhaase has done some pretty dumb things in this game to boot.. Its actually hard to watch a dumb qb, who also can't throw...

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 02:00 PM
i'm watching Illinois/Purdue right now... I thought i would say that Sheehasse dude is absoulutley terrible! My god!
Both Illinois ends are good Merciulus is having a hell of a season. Im watching Clemson UNC much better prospects in that gameMercilus is pretty invisible today..

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 02:31 PM
Kawaan Short DT Purdue is really impressive.. Hes not making "bigplays" today but certainly a huge part at stopping that Illinois rush attack so far..
Add 2sacks(big plays) to kawan Shorts day! Hes now having a marvelous day! Hes really something!

thegreatone
10-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Who is more overrated Quinton Coples who is still being touted as a Top 10 pick even though he causes zero pressure from*his weakside end spot or Donte Paige Moss he doesnt even start anymore. What happened to these guys there both invisible this season Kareem Martin has looked like the best end on that team.North Carolina Defenders are doing nothing in the pro's it seems lately...* Hopefully Marvin Austin will change that next yr, but u here nothing about most UNC prospects that came out in recent yrs.. Seems like the DT Sims started a bad trend for UNC Defensive players
don't forget Bruce Carter too and that cb whose name eludes me has been decent, but yeah overall dissapoontment from that squad so far.

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 03:43 PM
Kawaan Short DT Purdue is really impressive.. Hes not making "bigplays" today but certainly a huge part at stopping that Illinois rush attack so far..
Good I will download that game. I need some 2011 footage of Short.Keep letting me know when u see games when guys play real well or real bad

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 03:45 PM
i'm watching Illinois/Purdue right now... I thought i would say that Sheehasse dude is absoulutley terrible! My god!
Both Illinois ends are good Merciulus is having a hell of a season. Im watching Clemson UNC much better prospects in that gameMercilus is pretty invisible today..
Yeah I dont think he is a top prospect or anything he is having a good season though

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 04:12 PM
This is a real down year on the defensive side of the ball . Next year will be much better alot of the SEC teams are real young</P>


Did u guys look at that Robert Turbin video. Tell me he doesnt look like Gartrell Johnson. </P>

thegreatone
10-22-2011, 04:31 PM
Well damn looks like lance Lewis is playing afterall

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 04:53 PM
Barkevious Mingo is really coming . He is going to make an awesome 3-4 LB

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10-22-2011, 05:26 PM
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BlueSanta
10-22-2011, 07:41 PM
Who is more overrated Quinton Coples who is still being touted as a Top 10 pick even though he causes zero pressure fromhis weakside end spot or Donte Paige Moss he doesnt even start anymore. What happened to these guys there both invisible this season Kareem Martin has looked like the best end on that team.North Carolina Defenders are doing nothing in the pro's it seems lately... Hopefully Marvin Austin will change that next yr, but u here nothing about most UNC prospects that came out in recent yrs.. Seems like the DT Sims started a bad trend for UNC Defensive players
don't forget Bruce Carter too and that cb whose name eludes me has been decent, but yeah overall dissapoontment from that squad so far.

Kinda hard to call Carter a dissapointment. He was drafted knowing he was likely to miss the 1st half of the season.

I think a lot of the NC disapointment stems from Butch Davis' influence. He is a legendary recruiter, but when you look at all the kids he had brought into the various programs he coached for, the list of players who got in trouble or never lived up the their potential is equally legendary. I have to believe some of his lack of professional accountability rubbed off on his players and many never live up to their potential for it. He was always a great recuiter and a marginal "X and O" coach who was willing to look the other way while his guys misbehaved.

thegreatone
10-22-2011, 08:34 PM
Who is more overrated Quinton Coples who is still being touted as a Top 10 pick even though he causes zero pressure fromhis weakside end spot or Donte Paige Moss he doesnt even start anymore. What happened to these guys there both invisible this season Kareem Martin has looked like the best end on that team.North Carolina Defenders are doing nothing in the pro's it seems lately... Hopefully Marvin Austin will change that next yr, but u here nothing about most UNC prospects that came out in recent yrs.. Seems like the DT Sims started a bad trend for UNC Defensive players
don't forget Bruce Carter too and that cb whose name eludes me has been decent, but yeah overall dissapoontment from that squad so far.

Kinda hard to call Carter a dissapointment. He was drafted knowing he was likely to miss the 1st half of the season.

I think a lot of the NC disapointment stems from Butch Davis' influence. He is a legendary recruiter, but when you look at all the kids he had brought into the various programs he coached for, the list of players who got in trouble or never lived up the their potential is equally legendary. I have to believe some of his lack of professional accountability rubbed off on his players and many never live up to their potential for it. He was always a great recuiter and a marginal "X and O" coach who was willing to look the other way while his guys misbehaved.
i know i was adding him in with austin as "yet to be determined"

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 11:29 PM
Holy crap what an ending to the Wisconsin MSU game. Game of the year so far. Im sorry to whoever missed it

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 11:39 PM
Holy crap what an ending to the Wisconsin MSU game. Game of the year so far. Im sorry to whoever missed ittotally insane! Just insane! I was just saying last week at how impressed i was with Cousins, even though his numbers would tell a bit of a diffrent story(4horrible drops), and he comes out with a masterpiece against a solid D.. Awesome game! That is a game u see 30yrs down the road on Instant Classic!

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10-22-2011, 11:40 PM
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gmen0820
10-22-2011, 11:42 PM
Any other Andrew Luck-less year, Barkley is my top guy. I just really like this kid.


Kalil is also incredible, 6-7 300lb and when he engages, he doesn't disengage.


As for Alabama, I've been high on Hightower for a while, but Upshaw is also a very nice player. Kirkpatrick is another player I think will be a star in this league. I actually like him more than Morris Claiborne.


One player I'm not that big on that alot of others are is, is Zach Brown. He played solid today, solid drops, covered WRs, RBs etc. but I just don't like him for some reason.

nycsportzfan
10-22-2011, 11:44 PM
Kawaan Short DT Purdue is really impressive.. Hes not making "bigplays" today but certainly a huge part at stopping that Illinois rush attack so far..
Good I will download that game. I need some 2011 footage of Short.Keep letting me know when u see games when guys play real well or real bad Ya, he got 2sacks after i made the original post about him.. Short had a masterpiece of a game.. I will also, most definetly mention guys like Short to u, as i always do anyways.. I love that i have guys like you to talk draft with! Seriously, thanks to U, Greatone, Santa, and others that i have been talking draft with now for a few yrs...

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There the same size but I disagree there similar level prospects. Ingram was the best back in his class. I do like Martin but I think he goes in the third round

Redeyejedi
10-22-2011, 11:52 PM
Kawaan Short DT Purdue is really impressive.. Hes not making "bigplays" today but certainly a huge part at stopping that Illinois rush attack so far..
Good I will download that game. I need some 2011 footage of Short.Keep letting me know when u see games when guys play real well or real bad Ya, he got 2sacks after i made the original post about him.. Short had a masterpiece of a game.. I will also, most definetly mention guys like Short to u, as i always do anyways.. I love that i have guys like you to talk draft with! Seriously, thanks to U, Greatone, Santa, and others that i have been talking draft with now for a few yrs...
The only thing thats sux is I only have one Short vid up and its against illinois from 2010. He had 2 sacks in that one as well

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10-23-2011, 12:07 AM
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There the same size but I disagree there similar level prospects. Ingram was the best back in his class. I do like Martin but I think he goes in the third roundya, as far as round, i coulden't picture Martin getting up any higher then the 2nd round.. THe only backs i could see over the months making a push for a 1st round bid are possibly Chris Polk, Lamar Miller, and possibly bernard pierce(all though doubtful).. I could see Martin go in the 2nd round ala Shane Vereen last yr though.. Martin had another outstanding game as a Lead Horse back getting like 26carries 126yrds 1td 1catch 1td(don't quote me on the numbers, but something like that)..

nycsportzfan
10-23-2011, 12:12 AM
Texas Tech about to take out Oklahoma it looks like.. Wow! I'm gonna have to change up my "dream" matchups(top 3) for end of the season champ game(purely fantasy, matchups that u would want, and only based on that)..

Right now, i'd say any of these 3 matchups would just be really fun and neat to see..

Boise St VS L.S.U (wow, if Boise pulled this one off, watch out!)
Stanford VS Clemson( this would be some serious fun as well!)
L.S.U VS Stanford(again, what fun!)

Hon mention- Oklahoma St VS Oregon(a very explosive game, that would be fun to check out)

nycsportzfan
10-23-2011, 12:52 AM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...

myles2424
10-23-2011, 05:20 AM
Montee ball please

BlueSanta
10-23-2011, 07:21 AM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...


There are some things to really like about him.

1) Obviously as you mentioned, he has measurables.
2) A decently quick release with good arm strength. He can throw touch passes as well.
3) He seems to be a fast learner. He has improved a bunch since week 1, maybe the most in college football.
4) He is athletic, this can be bad though(I'll explain in the negatives.)

The things I dont like:
1) His footwork need work. He throws flat footed in the pocket sometimes and seems more comfortable on the move.
2) His athleticism works against him at times. By that, I mean he sometimes plays like a RB too much. He lowers his shoulder and takes on tackles like a power back. Its gonna get him killed in the NFL.
3) This is hard to say because I run the risk of upsetting VT fans but, the program is a terrible program for developing QBs. I dont mean it as an insult, Beamer is an amazing coach. But, he uses a 2 option 1 read system. Its like a kindergarden Qb class. There is a reason they have a history of producingy great NFL players at certain positions but never QBs. Or at least Qbs that translate well in to the NFL. The only guy who I would say has become a star player in the NFL at the QB position from VT is Mike Vick, and he took a long time to develop and always has unbelievable athleticism to fall back on. Logan is good athlete, but he is no Michael Vick. Because someone comes from VT doesnt mean they cant play in the NFL at QB, but it does make to harder to truly evaluate the reading skills and timing throws because they dont use timing throws and its a very basic read system.

nycsportzfan
10-23-2011, 08:21 AM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...


There are some things to really like about him.

1) Obviously as you mentioned, he has measurables.
2) A decently quick release with good arm strength. He can throw touch passes as well.
3) He seems to be a fast learner. He has improved a bunch since week 1, maybe the most in college football.
4) He is athletic, this can be bad though(I'll explain in the negatives.)

The things I dont like:
1) His footwork need work. He throws flat footed in the pocket sometimes and seems more comfortable on the move.
2) His athleticism works against him at times. By that, I mean he sometimes plays like a RB too much. He lowers his shoulder and takes on tackles like a power back. Its gonna get him killed in the NFL.
3) This is hard to say because I run the risk of upsetting VT fans but, the program is a terrible program for developing QBs. I dont mean it as an insult, Beamer is an amazing coach. But, he uses a 2 option 1 read system. Its like a kindergarden Qb class. There is a reason they have a history of producingy great NFL players at certain positions but never QBs. Or at least Qbs that translate well in to the NFL. The only guy who I would say has become a star player in the NFL at the QB position from VT is Mike Vick, and he took a long time to develop and always has unbelievable athleticism to fall back on. Logan is good athlete, but he is no Michael Vick. Because someone comes from VT doesnt mean they cant play in the NFL at QB, but it does make to harder to truly evaluate the reading skills and timing throws because they dont use timing throws and its a very basic read system.



Good Analysis! One thing for Thomas, is hes only what, a sophmore? And as u said, his improvement is ridiculous all ready... Va Techs had alot of qb';s that really were never that good even on the college ranks, as far as thought of higly going into the Draft anyways.. They've always been a Defensive, run on offense driven team.. But, i will not hold anything agaisnt Thomas, because hes got not only the measurables, but the running and throwing abilitys, and hes still young, va tech has seemed to have one or the other for the most part dating back to 1990, and now they got a complete package... I have a feeling when said and done, Thomas is gonna be a pretty high draft pick...

thegreatone
10-23-2011, 09:21 AM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...
yeah i mentioned him in week 1. dude was running to his left and made a sideline throw on a rope that was just amazing. he has struggled some but this kid has A LOT of potential and imo will be a premier QB down the line.

i watched the ecu game and he played amazingly but im just not that high on him. He makkes some dumb mistakes sometimes and looks like he relies on lewis a little too much.

shout out to my boy webster who had 6 catches for 81 yards. kid is a true freshman and is gonna be a baller

im always wary of houston qb's. history has not been kind to them.

thegreatone
10-23-2011, 09:28 AM
anybody see the throw the VT QB made running to his left? kids got an arm
yeah week 1.

Redeyejedi
10-23-2011, 09:37 AM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...
I would pick a different position. If I had to chose Id take Moore. At least Moore has the best football mind in the draft. He is one of if not the hardest working QB in CFB.I think he would be valuable as a back up. Moore would be right next to Eli manning in the film room

Redeyejedi
10-23-2011, 03:57 PM
Kyle Wilson is turning into a real good corner. He struggled a lot last year but he is really coming on this season

thegreatone
10-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Demrco Murray tore it up today

Redeyejedi
10-23-2011, 08:00 PM
Demrco Murray tore it up todayYeah he was nasty 253 yards on 25 carries

nycsportzfan
10-23-2011, 08:50 PM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...
yeah i mentioned him in week 1. dude was running to his left and made a sideline throw on a rope that was just amazing. he has struggled some but this kid has A LOT of potential and imo will be a premier QB down the line.

i watched the ecu game and he played amazingly but im just not that high on him. He makkes some dumb mistakes sometimes and looks like he relies on lewis a little too much.

shout out to my boy webster who had 6 catches for 81 yards. kid is a true freshman and is gonna be a baller

im always wary of houston qb's. history has not been kind to them.
He relys on Lewis to much but your guy had 6catches for 81yrds??lol I think he had about 5guys with 5catches or more yesterday.. That said, Lewis is a really good player, and usually the guys who have massive amount of balls thrown there way.. Shoot, if that were the case, Kirk Cousins would be horrible, as he rely's on BJ CUNNINGHAM a ton! Either way, i'm not a huge fan of Davis's, unless its in round 7or something, as a developmental type pick..

Logan Thomas has struggled at points, but mostly early on, as he was learning the ropes, hes really figured things out the last 4wk's or so.. Hes gonna be pretty good, i'd say... Just as any QB usually, it takes a few starts to get going, and hes doing that now...

nycsportzfan
10-23-2011, 08:52 PM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...
I would pick a different position. If I had to chose Id take Moore. At least Moore has the best football mind in the draft. He is one of if not the hardest working QB in CFB.I think he would be valuable as a back up. Moore would be right next to Eli manning in the film room You can't pick a diffrent positon, because that wasen't the question...lol I like your pick of Kellen Moore.. I think Moore has a chance to be a solid starter, in time.. I really do..

thegreatone
10-23-2011, 09:10 PM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas?** 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect..* God, i love football!**


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!!* He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..*


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta* Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be???* I would personally take Kellen Moore...
yeah i mentioned him in week 1. dude was running to his left and made a sideline throw on a rope that was just amazing. he has struggled some but this kid has A LOT of potential and imo will be a premier QB down the line.

i watched the ecu game and he played amazingly but im just not that high on him. He makkes some dumb mistakes sometimes and looks like he relies on lewis a little too much.

shout out to my boy webster who had 6 catches for 81 yards. kid is a true freshman and is gonna be* a baller

im always wary of houston qb's. history has not been kind to them.
He relys on Lewis to much but your guy had 6catches for 81yrds??lol I think he had about 5guys with 5catches or more yesterday..* That said, Lewis is a really good player, and usually the guys who have massive amount of balls thrown there way..* Shoot, if that were the case,* Kirk Cousins would be horrible, as he rely's on BJ CUNNINGHAM a ton!* Either way, i'm not a huge fan of Davis's, unless its in round 7or something, as a developmental type pick..

Logan Thomas has struggled at points, but mostly early on, as he was learning the ropes, hes really figured things out the last 4wk's or so.. Hes gonna be pretty good, i'd say...* Just as any QB usually, it takes a few starts to get going, and hes doing that now...
Lewis was injured and wasn't even supposed to play from what Danny told his mom but I see what your saying. Also lets remember it was against navy's D and rewind a couple weeks against houston where he throws 3 picks and they get blast 56-6 or something . I wouldn't be upset if he was taken late as a developement either. Logan is a guy I really like though and have been keeping an eye on him.

nycsportzfan
10-23-2011, 09:36 PM
Hey, what do u guys think of Va Techs QB Logan Thomas? 6ft 6inch 254lb beat that can beat u with his Arm or Legs... Dudes a unit! I like his game alot, but i wonder how he projects as a NFL prospect.. God, i love football!


Anyone catch what possible developmental prospect Dominique Davis did for E.Carolina today? Dude completed 26straight passes at one point!!! He went 40-45 on the day in a close WIN against Navy..

Case Keenum threw 6td's and 0picks against whoever Houston smashed..


Hey Redeye! I know your a mesaurables guy, so if u had to chose a QB outta Kellen Moore/ Russell Wilson or Case Keenum for the GIANTS to draft in a later round, who would it be??? I would personally take Kellen Moore...
yeah i mentioned him in week 1. dude was running to his left and made a sideline throw on a rope that was just amazing. he has struggled some but this kid has A LOT of potential and imo will be a premier QB down the line.

i watched the ecu game and he played amazingly but im just not that high on him. He makkes some dumb mistakes sometimes and looks like he relies on lewis a little too much.

shout out to my boy webster who had 6 catches for 81 yards. kid is a true freshman and is gonna be a baller

im always wary of houston qb's. history has not been kind to them.
He relys on Lewis to much but your guy had 6catches for 81yrds??lol I think he had about 5guys with 5catches or more yesterday.. That said, Lewis is a really good player, and usually the guys who have massive amount of balls thrown there way.. Shoot, if that were the case, Kirk Cousins would be horrible, as he rely's on BJ CUNNINGHAM a ton! Either way, i'm not a huge fan of Davis's, unless its in round 7or something, as a developmental type pick..

Logan Thomas has struggled at points, but mostly early on, as he was learning the ropes, hes really figured things out the last 4wk's or so.. Hes gonna be pretty good, i'd say... Just as any QB usually, it takes a few starts to get going, and hes doing that now...
Lewis was injured and wasn't even supposed to play from what Danny told his mom but I see what your saying. Also lets remember it was against navy's D and rewind a couple weeks against houston where he throws 3 picks and they get blast 56-6 or something . I wouldn't be upset if he was taken late as a developement either. Logan is a guy I really like though and have been keeping an eye on him. Oh, to start this Dominque Davis chat, i was just wanted to mention what he did yesterday, i really don't care one way or another about him, but as we both said, i could see some intrigue if taken in like round 7 or something, but preferably as a Undrafted free agent.. He'd be a steal if your getting him as a UDF..

As far as QB's this yr, and the midish to lateish guys, i am a Kellen Moore fan more then anyone else, with Chandler Harnish right there, followed by Case Keenum... Austin Davis also intriuges me, as a 7th round type QB..

Redeyejedi
10-24-2011, 01:20 PM
<DIV class=tweet-user-block-name>@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#!/DraftCountdown) <SPAN class=tweet-user-block-full-name>Scott Wright </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</DIV>
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<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</DIV></DIV>

shocknaweny
10-24-2011, 01:47 PM
dunno where exactly he will go but I like Rex Burkhead too !!

thegreatone
10-24-2011, 04:54 PM
<DIV class=tweet-user-block-name>@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#!/DraftCountdown) <SPAN class=tweet-user-block-full-name>Scott Wright </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=tweet-row>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">*</DIV>
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<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</DIV></DIV>oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs?

nycsportzfan
10-24-2011, 05:34 PM
<div class="tweet-user-block-name">@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Scott Wright </span></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</div>
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<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</div></div>oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?

nycsportzfan
10-24-2011, 05:35 PM
dunno where exactly he will go but I like Rex Burkhead too !! Theres a RB like Burkhead on SMU's team, Zach Line is his name.. If your a burkhead fan, you'll like him alot as well... They both kinda got that John Kuhn feel to them..

thegreatone
10-24-2011, 06:12 PM
<div class="tweet-user-block-name">@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Scott Wright </span></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
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<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</div></div>oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
yeah thats what i figured. sucks for him

Redeyejedi
10-24-2011, 06:31 PM
<DIV class=tweet-user-block-name>@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <SPAN class=tweet-user-block-full-name>Scott Wright </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=tweet-row>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</DIV></DIV>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
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Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</P>
<H1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</H1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</P>


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Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</P>

nycsportzfan
10-24-2011, 07:46 PM
<div class="tweet-user-block-name">@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Scott Wright </span></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</div></div>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
</p>


Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</p>
<h1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</h1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</p>


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Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</p> You've got to be kidding me...LMAO!!! Ok, so he just took a notch down my top Small School Prospect List...LOL

thegreatone
10-24-2011, 08:09 PM
<DIV class=tweet-user-block-name>@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <SPAN class=tweet-user-block-full-name>Scott Wright </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=tweet-row>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">*</DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">*</DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</DIV></DIV>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs?* To deep into the season?
</P>


Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</P>
<H1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</H1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</P>


*</P>


Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</P>WOW WTF . When dud these kids get so freaking dumb!?

nycsportzfan
10-24-2011, 10:23 PM
<div class="tweet-user-block-name">@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Scott Wright </span></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</div></div>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
</p>


Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</p>
<h1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</h1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</p>


</p>


Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</p>WOW WTF . When dud these kids get so freaking dumb!? When they come outta the womb.. What happens is there athletes and get breaks throughout life and when u add the Breaks and being dumb, it equals bad things..lol

nycsportzfan
10-24-2011, 10:28 PM
Anyone see how bad Flacco and the Ravens offense looks tonight??LOL Holy Crap!

Redeyejedi
10-24-2011, 10:47 PM
<DIV class=tweet-user-block-name>@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <SPAN class=tweet-user-block-full-name>Scott Wright </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=tweet-row>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></DIV>
<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</DIV></DIV>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
</P>


Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</P>
<H1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</H1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</P>


</P>


Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</P>


WOW WTF . When dud these kids get so freaking dumb!? When they come outta the womb.. What happens is there athletes and get breaks throughout life and when u add the Breaks and being dumb, it equals bad things..lol
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LOL look theres more</P>
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<DIV class=tweet-user-block-name sizset="0" sizcache="14836">@JoshMTD (http://twitter.com/#!/JoshMTD) <SPAN class=tweet-user-block-full-name>Joshua Deceuster </SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"><S class=hash>#</S>Oregon (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Oregon)<FONT color=#444444> CB Cliff Harris pulled over (again) for driving while suspended, uninsured and w/o a seatbelt. How low does he fall in draft now?</FONT></DIV></DIV>

Raptor22
10-25-2011, 10:43 AM
<div class="tweet-user-block-name">@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Scott Wright </span></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</div></div>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
</p>


Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</p>
<h1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</h1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</p>


</p>


Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</p>


WOW WTF . When dud these kids get so freaking dumb!? When they come outta the womb.. What happens is there athletes and get breaks throughout life and when u add the Breaks and being dumb, it equals bad things..lol
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LOL look theres more</p>
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<div class="tweet-user-block" sizset="0" sizcache="14836">http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1248299791/MTDLogo_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/#%21/JoshMTD)
<div class="tweet-user-block-name" sizset="0" sizcache="14836">@JoshMTD (http://twitter.com/#%21/JoshMTD) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Joshua Deceuster </span></div></div></div>
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<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"><s class="hash">#</s>Oregon (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Oregon)<font color="#444444"> CB Cliff Harris pulled over (again) for driving while suspended, uninsured and w/o a seatbelt. How low does he fall in draft now?</font></div></div>
http://www.straferight.com/photopost/data/500/medium/double-facepalm.jpg

nycsportzfan
10-25-2011, 08:13 PM
<div class="tweet-user-block-name">@DraftCountdown (http://twitter.com/#%21/DraftCountdown) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Scott Wright </span></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Maryland S / OLB Kenny Tate will miss rest of season with an unknown injury. Recovery time is six to nine months. Tate will seek a redshirt.</div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"></div>
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large">Doubt he gets it. His stock will take a huge hit</div></div>


oh wow, that's pretty huge. Why don't you think they'll give him the rs? To deep into the season?
</p>


Yep and look at this I just got on twitter</p>
<h1 property="dc.title">Police: Stun guns used to subdue 2 University of Montana football players</h1>


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/police-stun-guns-used-to-subdue-2-university-of-montana-football-players/2011/10/23/gIQAqK7NAM_story.html</p>


</p>


Guess who one of them was, Thats right Trumaine Johnson who thought he should put his hands on Police officers when they respond to noise compaints at 3 AM</p>


WOW WTF . When dud these kids get so freaking dumb!? When they come outta the womb.. What happens is there athletes and get breaks throughout life and when u add the Breaks and being dumb, it equals bad things..lol
</p>


LOL look theres more</p>
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<div class="tweet-user-block" sizset="0" sizcache="14836">http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1248299791/MTDLogo_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/#%21/JoshMTD)
<div class="tweet-user-block-name" sizset="0" sizcache="14836">@JoshMTD (http://twitter.com/#%21/JoshMTD) <span class="tweet-user-block-full-name">Joshua Deceuster </span></div></div></div>
<div class="tweet-row">
<div class="tweet-text tweet-text-large"><s class="hash">#</s>Oregon (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Oregon)<font color="#444444"> CB Cliff Harris pulled over (again) for driving while suspended, uninsured and w/o a seatbelt. How low does he fall in draft now?</font></div></div> OH MY GOD!!!LOL What total tools!

nycsportzfan
10-25-2011, 08:54 PM
If OSI continues with the yr hes having, do u think we give him his Extension, or do we trade him to a team for a hopeful 1st rounder? I think it'd be good to trade him because hes another yr older and you want to get rid of guys a yr early instead of a yr late... A team like the Lions would probably pounce on a trade like that, and then we could really build upon a defense with young chips like Amukamura, JPP, Austin, Joseph, J.williams..etc

BlueSanta
10-25-2011, 11:59 PM
If OSI continues with the yr hes having, do u think we give him his Extension, or do we trade him to a team for a hopeful 1st rounder? I think it'd be good to trade him because hes another yr older and you want to get rid of guys a yr early instead of a yr late... A team like the Lions would probably pounce on a trade like that, and then we could really build upon a defense with young chips like Amukamura, JPP, Austin, Joseph, J.williams..etc


I dont see any way we get a 1st rounder for him. Keep in mind, thats what we asked for him prior to this year and prior to his knee surgery coming off 1 of his best years ever.

I hate to get into it because people seem to think Im bashing Osi,but I am not. He is an exceptional passrusher. But, he is getting up in age and he has had a few surgeries on those legs of his. As a speed rusher there are 2 things that can turn you from hero to zero: age and leg injuries. 1 day soon, Osi is going to wake up and he isnt going to have that great 1st step anymore. Osi plays a lot like Simeon Rice used to. And Mr Rice was on top of the world 1 year and gone from the NFL the next.

Lastly, it was widely rumored we had dropped our asking price to a 2nd round pick for Osi this year. We had no Takers. Being a year older and 1 surgery added to the pile later, I dont see how we could get a 1st round pick for him next year.

nycsportzfan
10-26-2011, 06:45 AM
If OSI continues with the yr hes having, do u think we give him his Extension, or do we trade him to a team for a hopeful 1st rounder? I think it'd be good to trade him because hes another yr older and you want to get rid of guys a yr early instead of a yr late... A team like the Lions would probably pounce on a trade like that, and then we could really build upon a defense with young chips like Amukamura, JPP, Austin, Joseph, J.williams..etc


I dont see any way we get a 1st rounder for him. Keep in mind, thats what we asked for him prior to this year and prior to his knee surgery coming off 1 of his best years ever.

I hate to get into it because people seem to think Im bashing Osi,but I am not. He is an exceptional passrusher. But, he is getting up in age and he has had a few surgeries on those legs of his. As a speed rusher there are 2 things that can turn you from hero to zero: age and leg injuries. 1 day soon, Osi is going to wake up and he isnt going to have that great 1st step anymore. Osi plays a lot like Simeon Rice used to. And Mr Rice was on top of the world 1 year and gone from the NFL the next.

Lastly, it was widely rumored we had dropped our asking price to a 2nd round pick for Osi this year. We had no Takers. Being a year older and 1 surgery added to the pile later, I dont see how we could get a 1st round pick for him next year.
I thought i recalled that we would not lower our asking price to a 2nd and that is was all bologana that we would.. I think OSI having Back to Back seasons of heavy production would get someone to bite on a 1st or possibly a 2nd and 4th type deal... I'm with you as far as not bashing him, but good bussiness is to look at OSI"s body of work and realize his injurys plus age, and usual one yr of production followed by a yr of injury, and make the move realizing this cycle.. I am just thinking that possibly(for sure not definete), OSI having this kinda yr(if he continues it to the end) with his big season last yr, may get someone to bite, if we indeed don't re-sign him(big mistake if we do).. Sometimes u gotta be smart and realize when you've gotten the best outta someone and get rid of em when the stove is hot.. Its the way i would GM anyways..

With Pass RUshers at a premium, if OSI can keep it up this yr, it'd be quite tempting i think for some team that is close but not quite there to offer us a nice Draft pick package for him, but we shall see.. It should be interesting

lawl
10-26-2011, 03:25 PM
Hey NYC, sent ya a pm.</P>


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bluesanta and greatone too!</P>

nycsportzfan
10-27-2011, 09:47 PM
Case Keenum with 4tds passing in the first half VS Rice.. Some of the throws were downright amazing including this TD pass to Tyron Carrier, where he just put it where it had to be in the far corner of the endzone where only his guy could get it.. He makes some really nice throws..

Redeyejedi
10-27-2011, 10:57 PM
Case Keenum with 4tds passing in the first half VS Rice.. Some of the throws were downright amazing including this TD pass to Tyron Carrier, where he just put it where it had to be in the far corner of the endzone where only his guy could get it.. He makes some really nice throws..
How did Sammy Brown the LB look Ive been meaning to do a vid of him

Redeyejedi
10-27-2011, 11:41 PM
I cant wait for 3:30 Saturday the winner of that game should win the National Title. I think we may get the David vs Goliath National Championship. Boise State vs the SEC</P>

nycsportzfan
10-28-2011, 06:42 AM
Case Keenum with 4tds passing in the first half VS Rice.. Some of the throws were downright amazing including this TD pass to Tyron Carrier, where he just put it where it had to be in the far corner of the endzone where only his guy could get it.. He makes some really nice throws..
How did Sammy Brown the LB look Ive been meaning to do a vid of him Only sen highlights of the game, so i don't know.. How about Keenum going for 9td passes??lol Crazy! One of his main 2wr's(patrick edwards) had 7catches 318yrds 5tds or something like that..lol What a freaking game from Keenum and Edwards! Albeit, a couple highlights of keenum's, were wideopen wr's, like i said, he made a couple nifty passes, to say the least..


Tank Carder/ Matt Reynolds and a few others tonight in a nice BYU/TCU matchup.. The spread is like TCU -14 or something.. I am thinking of taking BYU... THey've played well since Riley has taken over at QB...

Redeyejedi
10-28-2011, 08:50 AM
I think we will see a few undefeateds go down this week</P>


Alabama-LSU one of them is losing</P>


Oklahoma- Kansas State - Oklahoma coming off that loss Kstate's stay in the Top 10 wont be long</P>


Oklahoma State-Baylor- Robert griffin could go off</P>


Clemson Georgia Tech- Dont know how Clemson will respond to the triple option.Branch doesnt play the run well</P>


USC Stanford- Stanfords played nobody so far. I could see USC upsetting them</P>

nycsportzfan
10-29-2011, 12:18 PM
Rex Burkhead is a beast.. I think he'll get a chance with someone, with success somewhere in between Alstott and Kuhn.. He might be a tad more legit RB then those 2 though...

nycsportzfan
10-29-2011, 03:36 PM
Man, Zach Browns awesome! Sweet sack/forced fumble...

nycsportzfan
10-29-2011, 09:41 PM
I wonder how much Money Seth Doege QB Tex Tech got for the fixing of his game against iowa st??? What a loser!

nycsportzfan
10-29-2011, 10:24 PM
I think we will see a few undefeateds go down this week</p>


Alabama-LSU one of them is losing</p>


Oklahoma- Kansas State - Oklahoma coming off that loss Kstate's stay in the Top 10 wont be long</p>


Oklahoma State-Baylor- Robert griffin could go off</p>


Clemson Georgia Tech- Dont know how Clemson will respond to the triple option.Branch doesnt play the run well</p>


USC Stanford- Stanfords played nobody so far. I could see USC upsetting them</p> Good call.. There is no real football teams anymore in college.. There all spoiled little brats who have no clue on how to play up to all opposition.. Its so disheartening not knowing what the so called best teams in the country will do week in and week out against even the scrubbiest of opposition.. It definetly dosen't make it fun to me, when a team can lose to Virginia one week, comes back the next and destroys your so called top team... How about Texas Tech???LOL What a freaking bunch of losers! When will they start really checking into FIXING of games? I mean, lets be real, with the way todays youth is, it probably happens 100times a week.. I feel sorry for our countrys future with these kids running the show in 20yrs..lol

nycsportzfan
10-29-2011, 10:33 PM
hahah, watching guys like Russell Wilson and these goofy fake idiots play all day makes me realize how pathetic my favorite sport really has become.. I mean, what is Russell Wilson doing??? Is he Re-arded? My niece whos 5 would make better decisons then that idiots today.. Obviously the dude has got to be in on a FIX, because there is no way in hell, a dude can play that pathetic, and if he can, then they better find a better QB, preferably one who can Wake up and isn't so HO HUM and DUHHHHHH all the time.. God, College football sucks!

BlueSanta
10-30-2011, 12:03 AM
hahah, watching guys like Russell Wilson and these goofy fake idiots play all day makes me realize how pathetic my favorite sport really has become.. I mean, what is Russell Wilson doing??? Is he Re-arded? My niece whos 5 would make better decisons then that idiots today.. Obviously the dude has got to be in on a FIX, because there is no way in hell, a dude can play that pathetic, and if he can, then they better find a better QB, preferably one who can Wake up and isn't so HO HUM and DUHHHHHH all the time.. God, College football sucks!


You've got me really wishing I had the TT game in my area.

However, I did get to see Wilson play and left thinking maybe he was sick or something. He looked way off.

nycsportzfan
10-30-2011, 09:10 AM
hahah, watching guys like Russell Wilson and these goofy fake idiots play all day makes me realize how pathetic my favorite sport really has become.. I mean, what is Russell Wilson doing??? Is he Re-arded? My niece whos 5 would make better decisons then that idiots today.. Obviously the dude has got to be in on a FIX, because there is no way in hell, a dude can play that pathetic, and if he can, then they better find a better QB, preferably one who can Wake up and isn't so HO HUM and DUHHHHHH all the time.. God, College football sucks!


You've got me really wishing I had the TT game in my area.

However, I did get to see Wilson play and left thinking maybe he was sick or something. He looked way off.


After yesterday, i'm fully convinced College football needs to investigate FIXING GAMES.. It just dosen't make sense at all.. And i've heard more then any other yr from tons and tons and tons of people that the belief of FIXING games is real and is a problem in college football... Of course, people like to act like its just something that woulden't happen, but if u watch these games, its litteraly the only explenation.. Sometimes its just to obvious, in my opinion.. Of course i could be wrong, but i would feel i was being way to nieve to think that... Russell Wilson looked as if he just simply didn't care, and if u seen Seth Doege of Tex Tech playing, you would almost wonder why he isnt a cheerleader, instead of a football player.. Everything he did was mind-boggling and made no sense, and i've seen him play before, and i promise he coulden't play that bad unless he was trying.. THey scored 1td at home against Iowa ST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol

Redeyejedi
10-30-2011, 04:17 PM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game

nycsportzfan
10-31-2011, 01:45 AM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game I was disspointed in this weekends games.. I wanted to see a bit of crisp ball, and felt i didn't get that much at all.. Oh well, i'm over it..

Anyhow, its time for the Weekly Mock.. Its been 2wks because of the BYE, and all though we WON, i sure didn't feel like that for much of the afternoon, and again, there is a lot that needs working out.. I will say, unless the GIANTS go like 7-2 , they should start fresh with coaches next yr.. Its just time... We need to start with a fresh regime.. I'm really impressed with Rob Chudzinski OC Panthers.. Just a new name i am throwing out there from the assistant ranks.. Hes done great with CAM, and mixing Run with Pass, and really exelerating the learning curve for Cam... I like a few others, but hes now on my radar to go with Brian Van Gorder DC Falcons, Clarence Shelmon OC Chargers, Bill O'brien OC Pats, Mike Zimmer DC Bengals, and Kirk Ferentz HC Iowa... I would take Bill Cowher, but wonder if the Money is gonna be worth it.. I say take a shot on a young OC or Ferentz(hes a really good coach!), and lets go..

Anyways, i'm saying were picking 26th this week, as i think we'd move up a slot on NO, and were 25th as of now... I'm giving us a 4th round Comp pick this week, because we should get one for either boss or cofield.. I will not add the other, because i really don't know if we'll get 2 or not..

1. Michael Brewster C Ohio St- I'm really beggining to think this guy would be the smart pick.. We gotta get better at running between the Guards and Center, and Baas can go back to G or whatever, or Decastro is another option.. I just Think Brewster would really make our Run Game better in the middle...

2. Chris Polk RB Washington- I know we need some defense, but in this mock i'm hoping guys like TT, Goff, Austin, and Amukumura are some key additions to the new season, along with another yr under the belts of guys like Joseph, JPP, and Jaquian WIlliams.. Jacobs is talking about being outta here after this yr(see ya!), and we could use the upgrade anyways, as i said we gotta get better in the wear and tear, up the gut run game... Polk can catch some as well.. Hes a tough runner...

3. Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St- We need some speed in the secondary, and Martin has that with a nice ability in the run game(which giants love) and he can cover.. He hasen't made a ton of huge game changing plays, but hes defended enough passes(ESPN records have 7) and he can lay the lumber... Martin has a nice overall skill set, with speed, which our secondary can use a shot of..Deon Grant is terrible, and who knows about Chad Jones?

4. Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- a playmaker at the DT positon... Could use one more DT for the rotation to go with Austin and Joseph going forward...

4(comp) Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I've been follwing him for a couple yrs now, and Chism has a nice skill set with size, speed and some ball skills... I think he could develop into a quality starter or nice depth.. Chism reminds me of a Giant CB..

5. B.J Cunningham WR Michigan St- A really solid player with quality size and nice resume.. Not a total burner, but can get deep, and has quality hands.. Has been huge part of the success State has had over past couple yrs and seems to have the "it" factor and with Mario Mannihgams future unknown and Barden being so injury prone, its not such a bad idea adding a player at the postion...

6. Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Just a developmental QB to take a chance on.. Harnish has done wonders for No Illinois, and can use his feet as well as his arm.. Kinda a similar player to a Tony Romo(lets hope not with the choke jean..lol)...

7. Phillip Lutzkerchin TE Auburn- Looks like a good old "football player".. Could iron out niche as 2nd TE in a 2 TE set and find a niche on the right team.. Lutzenkirchen is the type of player u look up one day, and say, "wow, hes been in league 7yrs all ready?"..lol A quality 7th rounder..

BlueSanta
10-31-2011, 02:19 AM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game I was disspointed in this weekends games.. I wanted to see a bit of crisp ball, and felt i didn't get that much at all.. Oh well, i'm over it..

Anyhow, its time for the Weekly Mock.. Its been 2wks because of the BYE, and all though we WON, i sure didn't feel like that for much of the afternoon, and again, there is a lot that needs working out.. I will say, unless the GIANTS go like 7-2 , they should start fresh with coaches next yr.. Its just time... We need to start with a fresh regime.. I'm really impressed with Rob Chudzinski OC Panthers.. Just a new name i am throwing out there from the assistant ranks.. Hes done great with CAM, and mixing Run with Pass, and really exelerating the learning curve for Cam... I like a few others, but hes now on my radar to go with Brian Van Gorder DC Falcons, Clarence Shelmon OC Chargers, Bill O'brien OC Pats, Mike Zimmer DC Bengals, and Kirk Ferentz HC Iowa... I would take Bill Cowher, but wonder if the Money is gonna be worth it.. I say take a shot on a young OC or Ferentz(hes a really good coach!), and lets go..

Anyways, i'm saying were picking 26th this week, as i think we'd move up a slot on NO, and were 25th as of now... I'm giving us a 4th round Comp pick this week, because we should get one for either boss or cofield.. I will not add the other, because i really don't know if we'll get 2 or not..

1. Michael Brewster C Ohio St- I'm really beggining to think this guy would be the smart pick.. We gotta get better at running between the Guards and Center, and Baas can go back to G or whatever, or Decastro is another option.. I just Think Brewster would really make our Run Game better in the middle...

2. Chris Polk RB Washington- I know we need some defense, but in this mock i'm hoping guys like TT, Goff, Austin, and Amukumura are some key additions to the new season, along with another yr under the belts of guys like Joseph, JPP, and Jaquian WIlliams.. Jacobs is talking about being outta here after this yr(see ya!), and we could use the upgrade anyways, as i said we gotta get better in the wear and tear, up the gut run game... Polk can catch some as well.. Hes a tough runner...

3. Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St- We need some speed in the secondary, and Martin has that with a nice ability in the run game(which giants love) and he can cover.. He hasen't made a ton of huge game changing plays, but hes defended enough passes(ESPN records have 7) and he can lay the lumber... Martin has a nice overall skill set, with speed, which our secondary can use a shot of..Deon Grant is terrible, and who knows about Chad Jones?

4. Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- a playmaker at the DT positon... Could use one more DT for the rotation to go with Austin and Joseph going forward...

4(comp) Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I've been follwing him for a couple yrs now, and Chism has a nice skill set with size, speed and some ball skills... I think he could develop into a quality starter or nice depth.. Chism reminds me of a Giant CB..

5. B.J Cunningham WR Michigan St- A really solid player with quality size and nice resume.. Not a total burner, but can get deep, and has quality hands.. Has been huge part of the success State has had over past couple yrs and seems to have the "it" factor and with Mario Mannihgams future unknown and Barden being so injury prone, its not such a bad idea adding a player at the postion...

6. Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Just a developmental QB to take a chance on.. Harnish has done wonders for No Illinois, and can use his feet as well as his arm.. Kinda a similar player to a Tony Romo(lets hope not with the choke jean..lol)...

7. Phillip Lutzkerchin TE Auburn- Looks like a good old "football player".. Could iron out niche as 2nd TE in a 2 TE set and find a niche on the right team.. Lutzenkirchen is the type of player u look up one day, and say, "wow, hes been in league 7yrs all ready?"..lol A quality 7th rounder..


I like it. 1st 3 rounds are all players I like for sure.

nycsportzfan
10-31-2011, 03:13 AM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game I was disspointed in this weekends games.. I wanted to see a bit of crisp ball, and felt i didn't get that much at all.. Oh well, i'm over it..

Anyhow, its time for the Weekly Mock.. Its been 2wks because of the BYE, and all though we WON, i sure didn't feel like that for much of the afternoon, and again, there is a lot that needs working out.. I will say, unless the GIANTS go like 7-2 , they should start fresh with coaches next yr.. Its just time... We need to start with a fresh regime.. I'm really impressed with Rob Chudzinski OC Panthers.. Just a new name i am throwing out there from the assistant ranks.. Hes done great with CAM, and mixing Run with Pass, and really exelerating the learning curve for Cam... I like a few others, but hes now on my radar to go with Brian Van Gorder DC Falcons, Clarence Shelmon OC Chargers, Bill O'brien OC Pats, Mike Zimmer DC Bengals, and Kirk Ferentz HC Iowa... I would take Bill Cowher, but wonder if the Money is gonna be worth it.. I say take a shot on a young OC or Ferentz(hes a really good coach!), and lets go..

Anyways, i'm saying were picking 26th this week, as i think we'd move up a slot on NO, and were 25th as of now... I'm giving us a 4th round Comp pick this week, because we should get one for either boss or cofield.. I will not add the other, because i really don't know if we'll get 2 or not..

1. Michael Brewster C Ohio St- I'm really beggining to think this guy would be the smart pick.. We gotta get better at running between the Guards and Center, and Baas can go back to G or whatever, or Decastro is another option.. I just Think Brewster would really make our Run Game better in the middle...

2. Chris Polk RB Washington- I know we need some defense, but in this mock i'm hoping guys like TT, Goff, Austin, and Amukumura are some key additions to the new season, along with another yr under the belts of guys like Joseph, JPP, and Jaquian WIlliams.. Jacobs is talking about being outta here after this yr(see ya!), and we could use the upgrade anyways, as i said we gotta get better in the wear and tear, up the gut run game... Polk can catch some as well.. Hes a tough runner...

3. Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St- We need some speed in the secondary, and Martin has that with a nice ability in the run game(which giants love) and he can cover.. He hasen't made a ton of huge game changing plays, but hes defended enough passes(ESPN records have 7) and he can lay the lumber... Martin has a nice overall skill set, with speed, which our secondary can use a shot of..Deon Grant is terrible, and who knows about Chad Jones?

4. Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- a playmaker at the DT positon... Could use one more DT for the rotation to go with Austin and Joseph going forward...

4(comp) Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I've been follwing him for a couple yrs now, and Chism has a nice skill set with size, speed and some ball skills... I think he could develop into a quality starter or nice depth.. Chism reminds me of a Giant CB..

5. B.J Cunningham WR Michigan St- A really solid player with quality size and nice resume.. Not a total burner, but can get deep, and has quality hands.. Has been huge part of the success State has had over past couple yrs and seems to have the "it" factor and with Mario Mannihgams future unknown and Barden being so injury prone, its not such a bad idea adding a player at the postion...

6. Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Just a developmental QB to take a chance on.. Harnish has done wonders for No Illinois, and can use his feet as well as his arm.. Kinda a similar player to a Tony Romo(lets hope not with the choke jean..lol)...

7. Phillip Lutzkerchin TE Auburn- Looks like a good old "football player".. Could iron out niche as 2nd TE in a 2 TE set and find a niche on the right team.. Lutzenkirchen is the type of player u look up one day, and say, "wow, hes been in league 7yrs all ready?"..lol A quality 7th rounder..


I like it. 1st 3 rounds are all players I like for sure.
Thanks santa! Another guy i like but coulden't fit him in where i think he'll go Devon Still DT Penn St had another huge game against Illinois.. Still went for 3.5 TFL and a Sack.. Like i said about Cameron Chism reminding me of a GIANT type player, so does DEVON STILL...

thegreatone
10-31-2011, 09:27 AM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game I was disspointed in this weekends games.. I wanted to see a bit of crisp ball, and felt i didn't get that much at all.. Oh well, i'm over it..

Anyhow, its time for the Weekly Mock.. Its been 2wks because of the BYE, and all though we WON, i sure didn't feel like that for much of the afternoon, and again, there is a lot that needs working out.. I will say, unless the GIANTS go like 7-2 , they should start fresh with coaches next yr.. Its just time... We need to start with a fresh regime.. I'm really impressed with Rob Chudzinski OC Panthers.. Just a new name i am throwing out there from the assistant ranks.. Hes done great with CAM, and mixing Run with Pass, and really exelerating the learning curve for Cam... I like a few others, but hes now on my radar to go with Brian Van Gorder DC Falcons, Clarence Shelmon OC Chargers, Bill O'brien OC Pats, Mike Zimmer DC Bengals, and Kirk Ferentz HC Iowa... I would take Bill Cowher, but wonder if the Money is gonna be worth it.. I say take a shot on a young OC or Ferentz(hes a really good coach!), and lets go..

Anyways, i'm saying were picking 26th this week, as i think we'd move up a slot on NO, and were 25th as of now... I'm giving us a 4th round Comp pick this week, because we should get one for either boss or cofield.. I will not add the other, because i really don't know if we'll get 2 or not..

1. Michael Brewster C Ohio St- I'm really beggining to think this guy would be the smart pick.. We gotta get better at running between the Guards and Center, and Baas can go back to G or whatever, or Decastro is another option.. I just Think Brewster would really make our Run Game better in the middle...

2. Chris Polk RB Washington- I know we need some defense, but in this mock i'm hoping guys like TT, Goff, Austin, and Amukumura are some key additions to the new season, along with another yr under the belts of guys like Joseph, JPP, and Jaquian WIlliams.. Jacobs is talking about being outta here after this yr(see ya!), and we could use the upgrade anyways, as i said we gotta get better in the wear and tear, up the gut run game... Polk can catch some as well.. Hes a tough runner...

3. Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St- We need some speed in the secondary, and Martin has that with a nice ability in the run game(which giants love) and he can cover.. He hasen't made a ton of huge game changing plays, but hes defended enough passes(ESPN records have 7) and he can lay the lumber... Martin has a nice overall skill set, with speed, which our secondary can use a shot of..Deon Grant is terrible, and who knows about Chad Jones?

4. Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- a playmaker at the DT positon... Could use one more DT for the rotation to go with Austin and Joseph going forward...

4(comp) Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I've been follwing him for a couple yrs now, and Chism has a nice skill set with size, speed and some ball skills... I think he could develop into a quality starter or nice depth.. Chism reminds me of a Giant CB..

5. B.J Cunningham WR Michigan St- A really solid player with quality size and nice resume.. Not a total burner, but can get deep, and has quality hands.. Has been huge part of the success State has had over past couple yrs and seems to have the "it" factor and with Mario Mannihgams future unknown and Barden being so injury prone, its not such a bad idea adding a player at the postion...

6. Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Just a developmental QB to take a chance on.. Harnish has done wonders for No Illinois, and can use his feet as well as his arm.. Kinda a similar player to a Tony Romo(lets hope not with the choke jean..lol)...

7. Phillip Lutzkerchin TE Auburn- Looks like a good old "football player".. Could iron out niche as 2nd TE in a 2 TE set and find a niche on the right team.. Lutzenkirchen is the type of player u look up one day, and say, "wow, hes been in league 7yrs all ready?"..lol A quality 7th rounder..


i hated car oc at the beginning of the year. he was completely over using cam and completely ignoring he had 2 great rb's on his roster. he has been calling some great games the last few weeks though and, like you said, has been great with cam.

1.Peter Konz C Wisconsin.- I really dont know who i like more at this point Konz or Brewster but i think both are stellar day1 starters and bass has been a major disappointment. we have to get back to rushing the ball and we can ony do that if we have quality olinemen. (alt-janoris jenkins CB)

2.Lucas Nix OG Pitt- i know there is no way this happens but this is if i were picking so i dont want to hear it. Diehl has fallen off the map and if we add another big body to the interior of our line we might have a great young oline for years to come. lucas is big,strong, and very good in the run game. (Alt-melvin ingram de)

3.Desmond Trufant CB Wash- TT+Ross are in contract years and we need quality dbs to compete with gb and NO.

4.TY Hilton WR FIU- this kid is amazing and think there is a great chance he will be long gone but im going off cbs rankings so,eff it.

4.Antonio Allen SS South Carolina

5.Tyler Neilsen OLB Iowa

6.Kellen Moore QB Boise- "experts" dont really like this kid for some reason (size) but if by some chance thise kid is still here he looks like a reese late round special.

7.Tydreke Powell DT UNC

Raptor22
10-31-2011, 09:47 AM
I still don't like drafting a C in the first, at least until Baas' contract runs out. I think Baas can become a rock in the middle of the line, and hasn't played poorly.

As I've said before, I think the problems with the line come down to Diehl and K-Mac. Diehl has sucked at G (at least from what I've seen), and this team really misses Suebert. He was the guy who got everybody going and gave the line its edge. K-Mac has gotten old REALLY fast (considering he was far and away the best RT in the league last year).

I'd rather see them grab one of those guards in the 2nd or 3rd who are 1st round talents but always slip through the cracks.

I think I'd like to see a WR or TE in the first. They have a glut of receivers, but none of them are consistent. I don't think we can ever count on Nicks to stay healthy, 'Rio is 'Rio, Cruz is still getting his legs under him. And, while I haven't given up on Barden, and am excited to see what JJ12 can do... The only consistent thing about the passing game is Eli.

TE is pretty self explanatory (Ballard + Dwayne Allen = potential awesome)

LaMicheal James would be hard to turn down too.

Oh, and on coaching, I kinda agree. I cannot knock the job that TC has done, but its starting to feel like "Its Time" (kinda like Favre's 2nd to last year. You get the chance to go out on a good note... before the universe takes a 2x4 to you). I want to see Fewell promoted, and then have Chip Kelly hired as OC. That could make for some exciting games.

Redeyejedi
10-31-2011, 01:38 PM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game I was disspointed in this weekends games.. I wanted to see a bit of crisp ball, and felt i didn't get that much at all.. Oh well, i'm over it..*

Anyhow, its time for the Weekly Mock.. Its been 2wks because of the BYE, and all though we WON, i sure didn't feel like that for much of the afternoon, and again, there is a lot that needs working out.. I will say, unless the GIANTS go like 7-2 , they should start fresh with coaches next yr.. Its just time...* We need to start with a fresh regime.. I'm really impressed with Rob Chudzinski OC Panthers.. Just a new name i am throwing out there from the assistant ranks..* Hes done great with CAM, and mixing Run with Pass, and really exelerating the learning curve for* Cam... I like a few others, but hes now on my radar to go with* Brian Van Gorder DC Falcons,* Clarence Shelmon OC Chargers, Bill O'brien OC Pats, Mike Zimmer DC Bengals, and Kirk Ferentz HC Iowa... I would take Bill Cowher, but wonder if the Money is gonna be worth it.. I say take a shot on a young OC or Ferentz(hes a really good coach!), and lets go..

Anyways, i'm saying were picking 26th this week, as i think we'd move up a slot on NO, and were 25th as of now...* I'm giving us a 4th round Comp pick this week, because we should get one for either boss or cofield.. I will not add the other, because i really don't know if we'll get 2 or not..

1.* Michael Brewster C Ohio St- I'm really beggining to think this guy would be the smart pick.. We gotta get better at running between the Guards and Center, and Baas can go back to G or whatever, or Decastro is another option.. I just Think Brewster would really make our Run Game better in the middle...

2. Chris Polk RB Washington- I know we need some defense, but in this mock i'm hoping guys like TT, Goff, Austin, and Amukumura are some key additions to the new season, along with another yr under the belts of guys like Joseph, JPP, and Jaquian WIlliams.. Jacobs is talking about being outta here after this yr(see ya!), and we could use the upgrade anyways, as i said we gotta get better in* the wear and tear, up the gut run game... Polk can catch some as well.. Hes a tough runner...

3. Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St- We need some speed in the secondary, and Martin has that with a nice ability in the run game(which giants love) and he can cover.. He hasen't made a ton of huge game changing plays, but hes defended enough passes(ESPN records have 7) and he can lay the lumber... Martin has a nice overall skill set, with speed, which our secondary can use a shot of..Deon Grant is terrible, and who knows about Chad Jones?

4. Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- a playmaker at the DT positon... Could use one more DT for the rotation to go with Austin and Joseph going forward...

4(comp) Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I've been follwing him for a couple yrs now, and Chism has a nice skill set with size, speed and some ball skills... I think he could develop into a quality starter or nice depth.. Chism reminds me of a Giant CB..

5. B.J Cunningham WR Michigan St- A really solid player with quality size and nice resume.. Not a total burner, but can get deep, and has quality hands.. Has been huge part of the success State has had over past couple yrs and seems to have the "it" factor and with Mario Mannihgams future unknown and Barden being so injury prone, its not such a bad idea adding a player at the postion...

6. Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Just a developmental QB to take a chance on.. Harnish has done wonders for No Illinois, and can use his feet as well as his arm.. Kinda a similar player to a Tony Romo(lets hope not with the choke jean..lol)...

7. Phillip Lutzkerchin TE Auburn- Looks like a good old "football player".. Could iron out niche as 2nd TE in a 2 TE set* and find a niche on the right team.. Lutzenkirchen is the type of player u look up one day, and say, "wow, hes been in league 7yrs all ready?"..lol* A quality 7th rounder..

shocknaweny
10-31-2011, 01:48 PM
Rex Burkhead has a HUGE game !!!</P>


3 touchdowns !!</P>

nycsportzfan
10-31-2011, 05:36 PM
My power went out missed all the games.saw the first half of the nb msu game I was disspointed in this weekends games.. I wanted to see a bit of crisp ball, and felt i didn't get that much at all.. Oh well, i'm over it..

Anyhow, its time for the Weekly Mock.. Its been 2wks because of the BYE, and all though we WON, i sure didn't feel like that for much of the afternoon, and again, there is a lot that needs working out.. I will say, unless the GIANTS go like 7-2 , they should start fresh with coaches next yr.. Its just time... We need to start with a fresh regime.. I'm really impressed with Rob Chudzinski OC Panthers.. Just a new name i am throwing out there from the assistant ranks.. Hes done great with CAM, and mixing Run with Pass, and really exelerating the learning curve for Cam... I like a few others, but hes now on my radar to go with Brian Van Gorder DC Falcons, Clarence Shelmon OC Chargers, Bill O'brien OC Pats, Mike Zimmer DC Bengals, and Kirk Ferentz HC Iowa... I would take Bill Cowher, but wonder if the Money is gonna be worth it.. I say take a shot on a young OC or Ferentz(hes a really good coach!), and lets go..

Anyways, i'm saying were picking 26th this week, as i think we'd move up a slot on NO, and were 25th as of now... I'm giving us a 4th round Comp pick this week, because we should get one for either boss or cofield.. I will not add the other, because i really don't know if we'll get 2 or not..

1. Michael Brewster C Ohio St- I'm really beggining to think this guy would be the smart pick.. We gotta get better at running between the Guards and Center, and Baas can go back to G or whatever, or Decastro is another option.. I just Think Brewster would really make our Run Game better in the middle...

2. Chris Polk RB Washington- I know we need some defense, but in this mock i'm hoping guys like TT, Goff, Austin, and Amukumura are some key additions to the new season, along with another yr under the belts of guys like Joseph, JPP, and Jaquian WIlliams.. Jacobs is talking about being outta here after this yr(see ya!), and we could use the upgrade anyways, as i said we gotta get better in the wear and tear, up the gut run game... Polk can catch some as well.. Hes a tough runner...

3. Markelle Martin S Oklahoma St- We need some speed in the secondary, and Martin has that with a nice ability in the run game(which giants love) and he can cover.. He hasen't made a ton of huge game changing plays, but hes defended enough passes(ESPN records have 7) and he can lay the lumber... Martin has a nice overall skill set, with speed, which our secondary can use a shot of..Deon Grant is terrible, and who knows about Chad Jones?

4. Derek Wolfe DT Cincy- a playmaker at the DT positon... Could use one more DT for the rotation to go with Austin and Joseph going forward...

4(comp) Cameron Chism CB Maryland- I've been follwing him for a couple yrs now, and Chism has a nice skill set with size, speed and some ball skills... I think he could develop into a quality starter or nice depth.. Chism reminds me of a Giant CB..

5. B.J Cunningham WR Michigan St- A really solid player with quality size and nice resume.. Not a total burner, but can get deep, and has quality hands.. Has been huge part of the success State has had over past couple yrs and seems to have the "it" factor and with Mario Mannihgams future unknown and Barden being so injury prone, its not such a bad idea adding a player at the postion...

6. Chandler Harnish QB No Illinois- Just a developmental QB to take a chance on.. Harnish has done wonders for No Illinois, and can use his feet as well as his arm.. Kinda a similar player to a Tony Romo(lets hope not with the choke jean..lol)...

7. Phillip Lutzkerchin TE Auburn- Looks like a good old "football player".. Could iron out niche as 2nd TE in a 2 TE set and find a niche on the right team.. Lutzenkirchen is the type of player u look up one day, and say, "wow, hes been in league 7yrs all ready?"..lol A quality 7th rounder..


i hated car oc at the beginning of the year. he was completely over using cam and completely ignoring he had 2 great rb's on his roster. he has been calling some great games the last few weeks though and, like you said, has been great with cam.

1.Peter Konz C Wisconsin.- I really dont know who i like more at this point Konz or Brewster but i think both are stellar day1 starters and bass has been a major disappointment. we have to get back to rushing the ball and we can ony do that if we have quality olinemen. (alt-janoris jenkins CB)

2.Lucas Nix OG Pitt- i know there is no way this happens but this is if i were picking so i dont want to hear it. Diehl has fallen off the map and if we add another big body to the interior of our line we might have a great young oline for years to come. lucas is big,strong, and very good in the run game. (Alt-melvin ingram de)

3.Desmond Trufant CB Wash- TT+Ross are in contract years and we need quality dbs to compete with gb and NO.

4.TY Hilton WR FIU- this kid is amazing and think there is a great chance he will be long gone but im going off cbs rankings so,eff it.

4.Antonio Allen SS South Carolina

5.Tyler Neilsen OLB Iowa

6.Kellen Moore QB Boise- "experts" dont really like this kid for some reason (size) but if by some chance thise kid is still here he looks like a reese late round special.

7.Tydreke Powell DT UNC
I don't like putting in to many Jr's, because u never do know for sure if there gonna come out or not.. If Trufant goes back to school, he could end up being a 1st round pick next season.. Overall i like your draft though...

myles2424
11-01-2011, 02:56 PM
Burfict,teo,kuechly,brown 1st round.......BPA & a huge need,enough said....then CB,Center,RT,RB,S,TE,DT, in whatever order & assuming a few of those positions will be handled in FA...

nycsportzfan
11-01-2011, 09:27 PM
has anyone watched the Tuesday night Game with No Illinois vs Toledo?? I have never seen worse defense then the No Illinois team..lol Its like the craziest thing i've ever seen.. Mind you, i am a Eric Page WR Toledo fan, and put him in the Sleeper thread weeks ago, but if u could see how bad the coverege and tackling is against this guy...LOL It is straight Putrid!!!!lol That might be being nice.. And to laugh about something even more funny, the No Illionis Coach keeps pooch kicking off in the 2nd half, like a total IDIOT and giving Toledo the ball at the 40, a team mind u they simply can't tackle or stop..LOL The No Illinois Defense and Coach are utterly embaressing to watch... College football is hard to stomach way to much..lol Theres just so much bad bad players and coaches..lol Even before i could get this post in, i just witnessed the worst so called tackle attempt ever by a No illinios player on a TOledo RB..lol

nycsportzfan
11-01-2011, 09:42 PM
has anyone watched the Tuesday night Game with No Illinois vs Toledo?? I have never seen worse defense then the No Illinois team..lol Its like the craziest thing i've ever seen.. Mind you, i am a Eric Page WR Toledo fan, and put him in the Sleeper thread weeks ago, but if u could see how bad the coverege and tackling is against this guy...LOL It is straight Putrid!!!!lol That might be being nice.. And to laugh about something even more funny, the No Illionis Coach keeps pooch kicking off in the 2nd half, like a total IDIOT and giving Toledo the ball at the 40, a team mind u they simply can't tackle or stop..LOL The No Illinois Defense and Coach are utterly embaressing to watch... College football is hard to stomach way to much..lol Theres just so much bad bad players and coaches..lol Even before i could get this post in, i just witnessed the worst so called tackle attempt ever by a No illinios player on a TOledo RB..lol
Chandler Harnish is a absoulute guy i would take a chance on in RD 5-7 as a Developmental QB in this yrs draft.. He dosen't really have a cannon arm, but has nice touch, makes mostly smart decisions, and can run, plus solid accuracy.. Hes fun as heck to watch.. Eric Page could be the next Lance Moore(from same school)


Wow, the No Illinois coach just pooch kicked off again!!!LoL The No Illinois coach is mentally challenged..lol

nycsportzfan
11-02-2011, 06:27 AM
Chandler Harnish just tore it up against Toledo.. 17-26 265yrd 6td 0int/ 16carry 133yrds... It was Harnish's 3rd 100yrd rushing game on the season, and hes now got 17td passes and i think like 4or5 picks... Hes a beast!

Redeyejedi
11-02-2011, 02:14 PM
Chandler Harnish just tore it up against Toledo..* 17-26 265yrd 6td 0int/ 16carry 133yrds...*** It was Harnish's 3rd 100yrd rushing game on the season, and hes now got 17td passes and i think like 4or5 picks...* Hes a beast!
another game i would of watched if i had fing power

nycsportzfan
11-02-2011, 07:38 PM
Chandler Harnish just tore it up against Toledo.. 17-26 265yrd 6td 0int/ 16carry 133yrds... It was Harnish's 3rd 100yrd rushing game on the season, and hes now got 17td passes and i think like 4or5 picks... Hes a beast!
another game i would of watched if i had fing power jeez man, still no power? I'm sorry to here that redeye.. I hope you get your power back before saturday, as i know you are amped for the LSU/BAMA game..

nycsportzfan
11-02-2011, 09:09 PM
So far, bernard PIerce is being bottled up by Ohio U's defense.. Not really his fault , there has been no holes what so ever, as the Ohio D is totally focusing in on the Temple Run.. Its early though...

There is another WR to think about in this game as a late rd pick or UDF, in lavon brazill of Ohio.. He could be a good slot Wr possibly... A sleeper to think about..

tdawg1413
11-03-2011, 07:45 PM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us.

I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with:



1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT.



2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect.



3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage.



4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks.



5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A & M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed.



6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though.



7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials.

slipknottin
11-03-2011, 07:59 PM
Im starting to think Giants may take another safety in rounds 3-4.

They need that third safety, Grant probably wont stay a giant, and just doesnt have the range to play deep third anymore. Sash is no athletic upgrade over Grant.

Has to have the versatility to play both deep third and come down and cover TEs/occasionally slot receivers.

Too bad safetys are so difficult to scout on TV.

Redeyejedi
11-03-2011, 08:42 PM
Im starting to think Giants may take another safety in rounds 3-4.

They need that third safety, Grant probably wont stay a giant, and just doesnt have the range to play deep third anymore. Sash is no athletic upgrade over Grant.

Has to have the versatility to play both deep third and come down and cover TEs/occasionally slot receivers.

Too bad safetys are so difficult to scout on TV.
Yeah I hate doing DB videos because I feel like im short changing the viewer. Ijust dont get the looks i need.I could see the Giants showing some interest in Mark Barron but yeah I agree safety will be looked at

nycsportzfan
11-04-2011, 05:47 AM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us.

I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with:



1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT.



2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect.



3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage.



4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks.



5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A &amp; M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&amp;M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed.



6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though.



7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials. Thats a good draft, but i don't think Michael makes it outta RD 2, and latest the first few picks of RD 3... Hes totally passed Cyrus Gray as a prospect, and has everything u want in a lead back.. As for Branch, i think hes gonna Rise possibly into RD 1.. I love Andre Branch as a prospect, and he would be a nice fit, especially if we were to deal OSI for a pick or picks... Cole is a nice looking LB prospect, that we've spoke about on here a few times... If Barden dosen't show some promise when he gets healthy(i think he will), Mcnutt makes alot of sense, and a S has been added in pretty much every mock i've done for the most part... I think a speedy S who can HIT is preferable, like a Markelle Martin or Winston Guy or even Delano Howell.. Pleasent would be nice if we wait as long as u have us waiting... Good mock..

thegreatone
11-04-2011, 09:52 AM
Im starting to think Giants may take another safety in rounds 3-4.

They need that third safety, Grant probably wont stay a giant, and just doesnt have the range to play deep third anymore. Sash is no athletic upgrade over Grant.

Has to have the versatility to play both deep third and come down and cover TEs/occasionally slot receivers.

Too bad safetys are so difficult to scout on TV.
well hopefully jones will be able to compete in camp next season and we wont need a safety but i think you could be right. I do think sash can be a good player though

tdawg1413
11-04-2011, 10:41 AM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us.

I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with:



1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT.



2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect.



3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage.



4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks.



5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A & M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed.



6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though.



7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials. Thats a good draft, but i don't think Michael makes it outta RD 2, and latest the first few picks of RD 3... Hes totally passed Cyrus Gray as a prospect, and has everything u want in a lead back..* As for Branch, i think hes gonna Rise possibly into RD 1..* I love Andre Branch as a prospect, and he would be a nice fit, especially if we were to deal OSI for a pick or picks...* Cole is a nice looking LB prospect, that we've spoke about on here a few times...** If Barden dosen't show some promise when he gets healthy(i think he will), Mcnutt makes alot of sense,* and a S has been added in pretty much every mock i've done for the most part...* I think a speedy S who can HIT is preferable, like a Markelle Martin or Winston Guy or even Delano Howell..* Pleasent would be nice if we wait as long as u have us waiting...* Good mock..


I had Michael falling because I don't see him running a great 40 at the combine if he comes out and most draftniks still hype Gray as the better prospect. Either way, I think he would be a great fit and would be our back of the future.

BlueSanta
11-04-2011, 03:56 PM
Im starting to think Giants may take another safety in rounds 3-4.

They need that third safety, Grant probably wont stay a giant, and just doesnt have the range to play deep third anymore. Sash is no athletic upgrade over Grant.

Has to have the versatility to play both deep third and come down and cover TEs/occasionally slot receivers.

Too bad safetys are so difficult to scout on TV.


Agreed. I think a cover safety is a possible need position even if only for depth.

However, I think the rules changes in recent years have reduced the need for safeties compared to corners. Dont get me wrong, they are still needed, its just the days of big strong enforcers roving the middle of the field are over. Instead, the guys we put back there all have to be capable in man coverage too.

nycsportzfan
11-04-2011, 04:23 PM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us.

I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with:



1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT.



2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect.



3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage.



4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks.



5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A &amp; M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&amp;M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed.



6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though.



7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials. Thats a good draft, but i don't think Michael makes it outta RD 2, and latest the first few picks of RD 3... Hes totally passed Cyrus Gray as a prospect, and has everything u want in a lead back.. As for Branch, i think hes gonna Rise possibly into RD 1.. I love Andre Branch as a prospect, and he would be a nice fit, especially if we were to deal OSI for a pick or picks... Cole is a nice looking LB prospect, that we've spoke about on here a few times... If Barden dosen't show some promise when he gets healthy(i think he will), Mcnutt makes alot of sense, and a S has been added in pretty much every mock i've done for the most part... I think a speedy S who can HIT is preferable, like a Markelle Martin or Winston Guy or even Delano Howell.. Pleasent would be nice if we wait as long as u have us waiting... Good mock..


I had Michael falling because I don't see him running a great 40 at the combine if he comes out and most draftniks still hype Gray as the better prospect. Either way, I think he would be a great fit and would be our back of the future. THe only Draftniks that have Gray ahead of Micheal at this point, are ones who don't stay up on there stuff and every single prospect.. U go to places that actually update there rankings, and Michael is clearly the better prospect, and hes got fine speed.. Hes listed at about 4.49

tdawg1413
11-04-2011, 04:57 PM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us.

I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with:



1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT.



2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect.



3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage.



4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks.



5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A & M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed.



6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though.



7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials. Thats a good draft, but i don't think Michael makes it outta RD 2, and latest the first few picks of RD 3... Hes totally passed Cyrus Gray as a prospect, and has everything u want in a lead back..* As for Branch, i think hes gonna Rise possibly into RD 1..* I love Andre Branch as a prospect, and he would be a nice fit, especially if we were to deal OSI for a pick or picks...* Cole is a nice looking LB prospect, that we've spoke about on here a few times...** If Barden dosen't show some promise when he gets healthy(i think he will), Mcnutt makes alot of sense,* and a S has been added in pretty much every mock i've done for the most part...* I think a speedy S who can HIT is preferable, like a Markelle Martin or Winston Guy or even Delano Howell..* Pleasent would be nice if we wait as long as u have us waiting...* Good mock..


I had Michael falling because I don't see him running a great 40 at the combine if he comes out and most draftniks still hype Gray as the better prospect. Either way, I think he would be a great fit and would be our back of the future. THe only Draftniks that have Gray ahead of Micheal at this point, are ones who don't stay up on there stuff and every single prospect.. U go to places that actually update there rankings, and Michael is clearly the better prospect,* and hes got fine speed..* Hes listed at about 4.49


What sites do you generally look at because the ones I have checked still list Gray ahead of Michael? I also like Cierre Wood from Notre Dame. He has McCoy like ability to me, although not on that level.

nycsportzfan
11-04-2011, 05:10 PM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us.

I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with:



1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT.



2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect.



3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage.



4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks.



5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A &amp; M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&amp;M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed.



6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though.



7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials. Thats a good draft, but i don't think Michael makes it outta RD 2, and latest the first few picks of RD 3... Hes totally passed Cyrus Gray as a prospect, and has everything u want in a lead back.. As for Branch, i think hes gonna Rise possibly into RD 1.. I love Andre Branch as a prospect, and he would be a nice fit, especially if we were to deal OSI for a pick or picks... Cole is a nice looking LB prospect, that we've spoke about on here a few times... If Barden dosen't show some promise when he gets healthy(i think he will), Mcnutt makes alot of sense, and a S has been added in pretty much every mock i've done for the most part... I think a speedy S who can HIT is preferable, like a Markelle Martin or Winston Guy or even Delano Howell.. Pleasent would be nice if we wait as long as u have us waiting... Good mock..


I had Michael falling because I don't see him running a great 40 at the combine if he comes out and most draftniks still hype Gray as the better prospect. Either way, I think he would be a great fit and would be our back of the future. THe only Draftniks that have Gray ahead of Micheal at this point, are ones who don't stay up on there stuff and every single prospect.. U go to places that actually update there rankings, and Michael is clearly the better prospect, and hes got fine speed.. Hes listed at about 4.49


What sites do you generally look at because the ones I have checked still list Gray ahead of Michael? I also like Cierre Wood from Notre Dame. He has McCoy like ability to me, although not on that level. Walter football and anyones that actually update there prospect lists...
Hes bigger, just as fast, and more productive then Gray... I like Cierre Wood as well..


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Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama

Height: 5-11. Weight: 220.
Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
Projected Round (2012): Top 20 Pick.


10/21/11: Richardson is having a massive senior season. He has
had a string of dominant performances in conference play. Thus far in
2011, Richardson has 16 total touchdowns (15 rushing, one receiving). He
has run for 912 yards while averaging 7 yards per carry. Richardson has
an elite combination of strength and speed.



8/18/11: Trent Richardson is considered by some to be a better
pro prospect than former teammate Mark Ingram. The reason is Richardson
has a fabulous make-up of size and speed. Last year, he ran for 700
yards on 112 carries with six scores. As a freshman, Richardson ran for
749 yards and eight touchdowns. He has been used as a receiver out of
the backfield with 23 receptions last year after 16 catches in 2009.

Richardson has the ability to run through linebackers and to run away
from defensive backs. Many consider him a favorite for the Heisman
trophy and it wouldn't be surprising if Richardson has a massive 2011
season.


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Lamar Miller**, RB, Miami

Height: 5-11. Weight: 212.
Projected 40 Time: 4.46.
Projected Round (2012): 1-2.


10/21/11: Miller has been a dynamic playmaker thus far in 2011.
He has averaged 6.4 yards per carry with 706 yards rushing and five
touchdowns in six games. Miller has shown the speed to break off long
touchdown runs, and is a threat to score with any touch. The redshirt
sophomore is one of the most dynamic backs in college football.



Last year as a redshirt freshman, Miller ran for 646 yards (six yards
per carry) with six touchdowns. He looks like a future starting running
back in the NFL. Miller has playmaking speed and the size to handle a
large amount of carries. He could return to Miami in 2012 and 2013 if he
wanted.

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Montee Ball*, RB, Wisconsin

Height: 5-11. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.53.
Projected Round (2012): 1-2.


10/21/11: Ball has dominated the competition so far in 2011. He
has averaged 6.1 yards per carry and totaled 653 yards on the ground,
plus has seven receptions for 166 yards. Ball is tied for first in the
nation with 17 touchdowns (16 rushing and one receiving). He also has
thrown a 25-yard touchdown pass this season. Wisconsin has an excellent
offensive line that gives Ball wonderful holes to run through. His
strong season has his stock rising.



8/18/11: Montee Ball could be a player who exploded across the
national scene quickly in the 2011 season with John Clay no longer at
Wisconsin. Ball came on like gangbusters late in the season for the
Badgers with five straight 100-yard games racking up a total of 777
yards in those five contests. He was third on the team in rushing behind
Clay and James White, but Ball led the team with 18 touchdowns. Ball
has a nice blend of power and speed that will appeal to NFL coaches and
scouts. He hits the hole quickly and is hard to bring down.

Sources have also told Walterfootball.com that many coaches in the NFL
like players from Wisconsin due to the similarities in the running
scheme that the Badgers run with NFL offenses. That will help Ball's
draft status. It wouldn't be surprising if he moves his way up into the
second round this fall.

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Chris Polk*, RB, Washington

Height: 5-11. Weight: 222.
Projected 40 Time: 4.46.
Projected Round (2012): 2-3.


10/21/11: Polk is putting together a strong season. He has
totaled 728 yards (5.4 average) and three touchdowns this season. Polk
also has caught 11 passes for 142 yards and two scores. His draft stock
remains stable, but could rise once the season ends if Polk has strong
workouts. That is, unless he decides to return for his senior year.



8/18/11: Chris Polk was a huge part of the Huskies' improvement
last season. Polk averaged 5.4 yards per carry and ran for 1,415 yards
with nine scores. That excellent production came behind an offensive
line that struggled throughout the 2010 season. As a freshman, he ran
for 1,113 yards and five scores.

Polk runs with good vision, cutting ability and has the talent to get
skinny through a hole to break runs into the secondary. He hits the hole
quickly, but also is a patient runner. In that regard, the sub-par
offensive line has helped make him a better running back.

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Christine Michael*, RB, Texas A&amp;M

Height: 5-11. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.48.
Projected Round (2012): 2-3.


10/21/11: In many ways, Michael has outshined teammate Cyrus
Gray this season. Michael leads Texas A&amp;M in rushing with 565 yards
and seven touchdowns. He's averaged six yards per carry (93 carries),
and had a massive game of 230 yards rushing and three touchdowns against
Arkansas. Michael is a quick and powerful runner who gets good yards
after contact. He could stay in school for the 2012 season in order to
be the lead back for the Aggies.

nycsportzfan
11-04-2011, 05:12 PM
Heres another site that updates there prospects...

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<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#dbe5f1">+3</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/RichardsonTrent.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Alabama
<font color="#254061">Trent Richardson</font>
Jr5'11"224</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#3
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table id="bbpositionalup" border="0" width="575">

<tbody><tr height="79">
<td align="center" width="100"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="5">2(28)</font></td>


<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">+16</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/BallMontee.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Wisconsin
<font color="#254061">Montee Ball</font>
Jr5'11"218</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#28
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table id="bbpositionalup" border="0" width="575">

<tbody><tr height="79">
<td align="center" width="100"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="5">3(36)</font></td>


<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">+71</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/PolkChris.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Washington
<font color="#254061">Chris Polk</font>
Jr5'11"215</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#1
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table id="bbpositionalup" border="0" width="575">

<tbody><tr height="79">
<td align="center" width="100"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="5">4(51)</font></td>


<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">+108</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/MillerLamar.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Miami (FL)
<font color="#254061">Lamar Miller</font>
So5'11"212</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#6
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table id="bbpositionalup" border="0" width="575">

<tbody><tr height="79">
<td align="center" width="100"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="5">5(79)</font></td>


<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">+63</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/WilsonDavid.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Virginia Tech
<font color="#254061">David Wilson</font>
Jr5'10"200</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#4
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table id="bbpositionalup" border="0" width="575">

<tbody><tr height="79">
<td align="center" width="100"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="5">6(88)</font></td>


<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">+313</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/MichaelChristine.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Texas A&amp;M
<font color="#254061">Christine Michael</font>
Jr5'11"215</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#33
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>

<table id="bbpositionalup" border="0" width="575">

<tbody><tr height="79">
<td align="center" width="100"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="5">7(90)</font></td>


<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">+311</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/PierceBernard.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Temple
<font color="#254061">Bernard Pierce</font>
Jr6'0"218</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#30
Video
N/A</font></td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>




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<td align="CENTER" valign="CENTER" width="65"><font color="#ffffff">-43</font></td>


<td align="center" valign="center" width="88"><font color="#dbe5f1">http://www.drafttek.com/2012images/GrayCyrus.jpg</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="245"><font color="#dbe5f1">Texas A&amp;M
<font color="#254061">Cyrus Gray</font>
Sr5'10"200</font></td>
<td align="center" valign="center" width="75"><font color="#dbe5f1" size="4">#32
Video
N/A</font></td></tr></tbody></table>

BlueSanta
11-05-2011, 02:25 AM
The 1 thing that stands out to me regarding the potential runningback class. I mean absolutely ZERO disrespect to Trent Richardson, who is the best back in college football right now. BUT, considering guys like Polk, Pierce, Wilson, Lamichael James and Miller are considered 3rd rounders....I dunno if it is worth risking a 1st on TR when you consider how often RBs get hurt.

There is some serious mid round talent at RB this year.


Ill go on to say that I do not agree with some of these analysts about Montee Ball. I watch his highlights and there is some stuff to like, he follows his blocks well, he is a very good passblocker for a college player, he runs north south. I just watch his games and see these big holes that he runs through and so often I see him get tackled by the 1st unblocked defender. Guys like LJ, Wilson, Pierce, Trent R, Polk seem to get past that tackler so much more often than Ball does. I also sometimes see him run to the line and stop if the hole isnt readily visible. I like him, he has a good no nonsense style of running. However, I think a great back in the NFL gets by the 1st defender more than he does. No way I think he is higher rated than some of these other guys.

I would also point out that those 40 times are way off on Walterfootball. Wilson is WAY faster than 4.59. He is a track star at VT and has been a home run hitter since getting to VT. I also think they undervalue Pierce. However, I was glad to see them have Tauren Poole some credit for his great 2010 season despite having hamstring issues this year. He is a good back.

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 05:28 AM
Watched that game last night and Pierce looked like he had some ability but like you said there were no holes at all. Pierce would be a nice 3rd rounder for us. I think we definitely need to come away with a back, OG, OT and a tall WR in this draft. Here is a quick mock I came up with: 1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - He is gonna rise up boards and he has great size and technique and can play both LT and RT. 2. Andre Branch - DE - Clemson - Having an excellent year and is a good all around DE prospect. 3. Audie Cole - ILB - Good, old school MLB with size to play the run and nice ability in pass coverage. 4. Marvin McNutt - WR - Iowa - Good sized WR with deceptive speed but excellent with the ball in the air. Perfect compliment to Nicks. 5. Christine Michael - RB - Texas A &amp; M - My favorite back of the draft. Cyrus Gray gets most of the pub at A&amp;M but Michael has been the better of the two backs there. Everydown size with good hands and pretty good speed. 6. Eddie Pleasant - S - Oregon - I have watched a few of their games this year and he has been all over the field. Good vs. the run but does not have elite speed in coverage. Excellent in special teams though. 7. Chris Rainey - RB - Florida - His size will hold him back but we should take a shot here at a real playmaker. Could help on 3rd downs and specials. Thats a good draft, but i don't think Michael makes it outta RD 2, and latest the first few picks of RD 3... Hes totally passed Cyrus Gray as a prospect, and has everything u want in a lead back.. As for Branch, i think hes gonna Rise possibly into RD 1.. I love Andre Branch as a prospect, and he would be a nice fit, especially if we were to deal OSI for a pick or picks... Cole is a nice looking LB prospect, that we've spoke about on here a few times... If Barden dosen't show some promise when he gets healthy(i think he will), Mcnutt makes alot of sense, and a S has been added in pretty much every mock i've done for the most part... I think a speedy S who can HIT is preferable, like a Markelle Martin or Winston Guy or even Delano Howell.. Pleasent would be nice if we wait as long as u have us waiting... Good mock..
I had Michael falling because I don't see him running a great 40 at the combine if he comes out and most draftniks still hype Gray as the better prospect. Either way, I think he would be a great fit and would be our back of the future. THe only Draftniks that have Gray ahead of Micheal at this point, are ones who don't stay up on there stuff and every single prospect.. U go to places that actually update there rankings, and Michael is clearly the better prospect, and hes got fine speed.. Hes listed at about 4.49
What sites do you generally look at because the ones I have checked still list Gray ahead of Michael? I also like Cierre Wood from Notre Dame. He has McCoy like ability to me, although not on that level.</P>


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Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 01:07 PM
Man I havent watched much BC this year but Im going through the FSU game now. They are a very bad football teame. Luke kuelchy makes like every play

lawl
11-05-2011, 03:28 PM
So I was working the ucf tulsa game this past Thursday and before the game i happened to be sitting next to a falcons scout and a giants scout. Btw everytime i work ucf games a nyg scout has been there. Not surprisingly we always have a bunch of c-USA players in camp and on the team.

Anyway I was trying to eavesdrop as much as I could. Couple random things I heard:

The atlanta scout was saying that he talked to Jerry(as in Jerry Reese) at the Georgia tech Maryland game. The scout insisted that Jerry was just trying to "get out of the office" and wasn't really scouting.

The NYG scout is going to be at upcoming Fiu fau and Miami games.

Then they started talking about going to school's practices and sometimes the coaches would kick them out or whatever. Anyway, only reason this is important is because the NYG scout was saying that he was trying to check out a "little wide receiver." I didnt catch what school the kid went to tho. Nor do I know a timeframe.

Nothing mind-blowing, just kind of cool, figured I'd share.

Edit note: the Tulsa MLB had like 20+ tackles

lawl
11-05-2011, 03:30 PM
Man I havent watched much BC this year but Im going through the FSU game now. They are a very bad football teame. Luke kuelchy makes like every play

Yea. It was the same way when they played us. BC sucks.

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 03:53 PM
I like Texas A&amp;M CB Terrence Frederick #7 . He is a slot CB but he is tough. He played great when he was manned up on Blackmon against Oklahoma State and he played well against Arkansas as well. Id like to see how he does matched up on broyles. Sean Porter gets the numbers but Damontre Moore is one of my favorite 2013 Pass Rushers.

BlueSanta
11-05-2011, 03:57 PM
Man I havent watched much BC this year but Im going through the FSU game now. They are a very bad football teame. Luke kuelchy makes like every play

Go back to the 2010 FSU game. He made even more. Good player.

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 04:20 PM
So I was working the ucf tulsa game this past Thursday and before the game i happened to be sitting next to a falcons scout and a giants scout. Btw everytime i work ucf games a nyg scout has been there. Not surprisingly we always have a bunch of c-USA players in camp and on the team.

Anyway I was trying to eavesdrop as much as I could. Couple random things I heard:

The atlanta scout was saying that he talked to Jerry(as in Jerry Reese) at the Georgia tech Maryland game. The scout insisted that Jerry was just trying to "get out of the office" and wasn't really scouting.

The NYG scout is going to be at upcoming Fiu fau and Miami games.

Then they started talking about going to school's practices and sometimes the coaches would kick them out or whatever. Anyway, only reason this is important is because the NYG scout was saying that he was trying to check out a "little wide receiver." I didnt catch what school the kid went to tho. Nor do I know a timeframe.

Nothing mind-blowing, just kind of cool, figured I'd share.

Edit note: the Tulsa MLB had like 20+ tackles interesting.. I actually am a Gj Kinne fan for the Tulsa team, as possibly a late rd developmental QB, and UCF seems to have a solid Defense, any players on that Defense that are possibly playing on sundays down the line?

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 04:20 PM
I like Texas A&amp;M CB Terrence Frederick #7 . He is a slot CB but he is tough. He played great when he was manned up on Blackmon against Oklahoma State and he played well against Arkansas as well. Id like to see how he does matched up on broyles. Sean Porter gets the numbers but Damontre Moore is one of my favorite 2013 Pass Rushers. I know i'm certainly not a fan of JUDIE's.. Hes a bum!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 04:22 PM
Montee Ball over a 100yrds rushing as the 2nd qter just started..lol I hope the Giants get there hands on Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin.. That dude is a straight animal!

lawl
11-05-2011, 04:24 PM
So I was working the ucf tulsa game this past Thursday and before the game i happened to be sitting next to a falcons scout and a giants scout. Btw everytime i work ucf games a nyg scout has been there. Not surprisingly we always have a bunch of c-USA players in camp and on the team.

Anyway I was trying to eavesdrop as much as I could. Couple random things I heard:

The atlanta scout was saying that he talked to Jerry(as in Jerry Reese) at the Georgia tech Maryland game. The scout insisted that Jerry was just trying to "get out of the office" and wasn't really scouting.

The NYG scout is going to be at upcoming Fiu fau and Miami games.

Then they started talking about going to school's practices and sometimes the coaches would kick them out or whatever. Anyway, only reason this is important is because the NYG scout was saying that he was trying to check out a "little wide receiver." I didnt catch what school the kid went to tho. Nor do I know a timeframe.

Nothing mind-blowing, just kind of cool, figured I'd share.

Edit note: the Tulsa MLB had like 20+ tackles* interesting..* I actually am a Gj Kinne fan for the Tulsa team, as possibly a late rd developmental QB, and UCF seems to have a solid Defense, any players on that Defense that are possibly playing on sundays down the line?

Darius nall(redeye did a video on him)

Kemaal Ishmael safety

And the guy that will probably get drafted highest is Josh Robinson, cb.

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 04:25 PM
Montee Ball over a 100yrds rushing as the 2nd qter just started..lol I hope the Giants get there hands on Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin.. That dude is a straight animal!
I've seen people starting to sneak Russell WIlson up a bit in mocks, like 4th roundish.. I wonder if he sneaks into RD 3 possibly?


Wow, what a power run by montee ball on 2nd and 3!! Hes just killing it today! Any slight down i was on ball, i'm back now! All though he did get caught from behind once... But hes just pounding for extra yards today.. As i speak, another TD run by ball..lol Number 19 for ball!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 04:26 PM
So I was working the ucf tulsa game this past Thursday and before the game i happened to be sitting next to a falcons scout and a giants scout. Btw everytime i work ucf games a nyg scout has been there. Not surprisingly we always have a bunch of c-USA players in camp and on the team.

Anyway I was trying to eavesdrop as much as I could. Couple random things I heard:

The atlanta scout was saying that he talked to Jerry(as in Jerry Reese) at the Georgia tech Maryland game. The scout insisted that Jerry was just trying to "get out of the office" and wasn't really scouting.

The NYG scout is going to be at upcoming Fiu fau and Miami games.

Then they started talking about going to school's practices and sometimes the coaches would kick them out or whatever. Anyway, only reason this is important is because the NYG scout was saying that he was trying to check out a "little wide receiver." I didnt catch what school the kid went to tho. Nor do I know a timeframe.

Nothing mind-blowing, just kind of cool, figured I'd share.

Edit note: the Tulsa MLB had like 20+ tackles interesting.. I actually am a Gj Kinne fan for the Tulsa team, as possibly a late rd developmental QB, and UCF seems to have a solid Defense, any players on that Defense that are possibly playing on sundays down the line?

Darius nall(redeye did a video on him)

Kemaal Ishmael safety

And the guy that will probably get drafted highest is Josh Robinson, cb. THanks! I'll be researching them now...

BlueSanta
11-05-2011, 06:19 PM
Thats heartbreaking seeing Broyles injury.

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 06:23 PM
Ryan Tannehill busy destroying his draft stock against Oklahoma. Guy is very talented physically but just bafflingly awful decision making.Landry jones hasnt look good either. Ryan Broyles standing on the sideline in tears looks like a torn ACL. Unless your a QB when u get a 2nd round grade they have to go pro. Broyles as good as he is wasnt going higher then the 2nd round.Now Christian Michael being carried off the field just after Travis Lewis got helped off WTF is going on in this game. We already saw Tom Wort and Cyrus Grayget hurt as well

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 07:40 PM
Ryan Tannehill busy destroying his draft stock against Oklahoma. Guy is very talented physically but just bafflingly awful decision making.Landry jones hasnt look good either. Ryan Broyles standing on the sideline in tears looks like a torn ACL. Unless your a QB when u get a 2nd round grade they have to go pro. Broyles as good as he is wasnt going higher then the 2nd round.Now Christian Michael being carried off the field just after Travis Lewis got helped off WTF is going on in this game. We already saw Tom Wort and Cyrus Grayget hurt as well wow! Crazy injuries! Travis Lewis can't take another game missing injury, with him all ready being tabbed as a injury prone player, and that really is gonna hurt broyles... I mentioned Tannehill's decison making weeks ago.. He does baffle u way to often...

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 07:41 PM
isaiah pead is a freaking animal! One of my favorite backs coming into the season, and hes just having a great yr.. I tell ya what, hes not all finesse.. He has some power in his game that i don't think people give him credit for enough.. Hes having a whale of a game early against Pitt..

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:06 PM
Here we go! Lsu vs Bama!!! Goosebumps!

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 08:10 PM
Ryan Tannehill busy destroying his draft stock against Oklahoma. Guy is very talented physically but just bafflingly awful decision making.Landry jones hasnt look good either. Ryan Broyles standing on the sideline in tears looks like a torn ACL. Unless your a QB when u get a 2nd round grade they have to go pro. Broyles as good as he is wasnt going higher then the 2nd round.Now Christian Michael being carried off the field just after Travis Lewis got helped off WTF is going on in this game. We already saw Tom Wort and Cyrus Grayget hurt as well wow! Crazy injuries! Travis Lewis can't take another game missing injury, with him all ready being tabbed as a injury prone player, and that really is gonna hurt broyles... I mentioned Tannehill's decison making weeks ago.. He does baffle u way to often...
This is only Tannehills 15th start but still I just dont get what he is thinking sometimes. I would have a hard time using a first round pick on him if I was a GM. I love his physical talent and he can amaze with some of his throws but he is also prone to Rex Grossman like mistakes as well. Im just not sure If I would stake my reputation as a GM on him with a first round pick. He seems more like a 2nd Round guy that needs to sit for a few years. </P>


Broyles confirmed Torn ACL. Should of come out. He was a 2nd rounder last year and a 2nd rounder before today.Now he probably goes late if at all</P>

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:13 PM
Wow, Ronnie Wingo drops a wideopen bomb that should of been a TD, right through his hands with not a Game**** around, and they end up in a 3rd and 1, and Devin Taylor picks off Wilson for a pick 6.. Its gotta be the 4th Wideopen drop that should of been a TD i seen today! Wow!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:15 PM
Ryan Tannehill busy destroying his draft stock against Oklahoma. Guy is very talented physically but just bafflingly awful decision making.Landry jones hasnt look good either. Ryan Broyles standing on the sideline in tears looks like a torn ACL. Unless your a QB when u get a 2nd round grade they have to go pro. Broyles as good as he is wasnt going higher then the 2nd round.Now Christian Michael being carried off the field just after Travis Lewis got helped off WTF is going on in this game. We already saw Tom Wort and Cyrus Grayget hurt as well wow! Crazy injuries! Travis Lewis can't take another game missing injury, with him all ready being tabbed as a injury prone player, and that really is gonna hurt broyles... I mentioned Tannehill's decison making weeks ago.. He does baffle u way to often...
This is only Tannehills 15th start but still I just dont get what he is thinking sometimes. I would have a hard time using a first round pick on him if I was a GM. I love his physical talent and he can amaze with some of his throws but he is also prone to Rex Grossman like mistakes as well. Im just not sure If I would stake my reputation as a GM on him with a first round pick. He seems more like a 2nd Round guy that needs to sit for a few years. </p>


Broyles confirmed Torn ACL. Should of come out. He was a 2nd rounder last year and a 2nd rounder before today.Now he probably goes late if at all</p> Yup, broyles is screwed now.. Probably go 4th rounish, after guys like Kendall Wright even..

As for Tannehill, i think his play this yr has been 2nd round most of the yr, and he'd of been lucky to sneak in RD 1, and todays game almost ensures rd 2ish.. I actually don't care for him anymore, and Nick Foles passed him before this week on my personal rankings...

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:17 PM
Wow, Ronnie Wingo drops a wideopen bomb that should of been a TD, right through his hands with not a Game**** around, and they end up in a 3rd and 1, and Devin Taylor picks off Wilson for a pick 6.. Its gotta be the 4th Wideopen drop that should of been a TD i seen today! Wow!
wow, kudos to Tyler Wilson, he comes right back and hits Wright on a 68yrd TD seconds after the pick 6 by Devin Taylor.. Way to go Wilson! WIlson looks like a 1st round talent, in my eyes..

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:20 PM
Where the hell do some of these schools find these idiot kickers???lol A 44yrder in college is like a 60yrder in the NFL..lol I watched Central Michigans Kicker miss a 28yrder as time expiered that would of tied the game and forced overtime against Kent St the other day, and seen about 3more missed fg's today, culminating in that horrendus FG attempt by the Bama kicker on the opening possesion...

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 08:20 PM
Wow, Ronnie Wingo drops a wideopen bomb that should of been a TD, right through his hands with not a Game**** around, and they end up in a 3rd and 1, and Devin Taylor picks off Wilson for a pick 6.. Its gotta be the 4th Wideopen drop that should of been a TD i seen today! Wow!
wow, kudos to Tyler Wilson, he comes right back and hits Wright on a 68yrd TD seconds after the pick 6 by Devin Taylor.. Way to go Wilson! WIlson looks like a 1st round talent, in my eyes..
Could be he wont come out this year though

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 08:24 PM
I wish LSU Bama wasnt on the same time as Arkansas SC these r heavyweight games

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:28 PM
Wow, Ronnie Wingo drops a wideopen bomb that should of been a TD, right through his hands with not a Game**** around, and they end up in a 3rd and 1, and Devin Taylor picks off Wilson for a pick 6.. Its gotta be the 4th Wideopen drop that should of been a TD i seen today! Wow!
wow, kudos to Tyler Wilson, he comes right back and hits Wright on a 68yrd TD seconds after the pick 6 by Devin Taylor.. Way to go Wilson! WIlson looks like a 1st round talent, in my eyes..
Could be he wont come out this year though oh, i know that.. I'm just speaking in general.. Hes definetly probably not coming out...

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:29 PM
I wish LSU Bama wasnt on the same time as Arkansas SC these r heavyweight games I know, right... Even Cincy/Pitt Nd/Wake are interesting from a prospect standpoint, but not Sc/Ark Bama/Lsu type games, but still...

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:30 PM
These Kickers gotta realize, they kill there team with these misses from 40-43 yrds out Field positon wise... Smarten up kickers, and learn how to kick!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:41 PM
Can u please give the Giants a some of these Bama lineman!!!! FLuker, Jones, vlachos! Dudes are freaking awesome!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:42 PM
Tyler Wilson is freaking awesome! What a money TD pass to jarious wright yet again, on 3rd and 6 this time! WIlson puts some steam on his balls!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:46 PM
Hey Redeye, was wondering what u thought of Jarius Wright WR ARK as a prospect?

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 08:47 PM
Hey Redeye, was wondering what u thought of Jarius Wright WR ARK as a prospect?
I love him he is explosive ,great route runner might be the best slot guy in the draft

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Why does Alabama even attempt FG's with these kickers there so bad

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 08:52 PM
Intercepted Robert Lester. Lester is playing the deeper safety tonight its usually Barron.</P>


Wow what a PD by Claiborne</P>

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:54 PM
Where the hell do some of these schools find these idiot kickers???lol A 44yrder in college is like a 60yrder in the NFL..lol I watched Central Michigans Kicker miss a 28yrder as time expiered that would of tied the game and forced overtime against Kent St the other day, and seen about 3more missed fg's today, culminating in that horrendus FG attempt by the Bama kicker on the opening possesion...
And a Missed 25yrd FG for Arkansas...LOL

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:57 PM
What a run by Trent Richardson! Dudes clearly the best RB in the country and well worth a top 15pick... As good as his blocking is, he kills it when there isn't good blocking as well...

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:57 PM
Hey Redeye, was wondering what u thought of Jarius Wright WR ARK as a prospect?
I love him he is explosive ,great route runner might be the best slot guy in the draft Ya, i like him as well...

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 08:58 PM
Dang Bama! Stop pussing out when u get close and having guys trip over there own feet and get in 3rd and 20's and look plain stupid... Jesus!

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 09:01 PM
Where the hell do some of these schools find these idiot kickers???lol A 44yrder in college is like a 60yrder in the NFL..lol I watched Central Michigans Kicker miss a 28yrder as time expiered that would of tied the game and forced overtime against Kent St the other day, and seen about 3more missed fg's today, culminating in that horrendus FG attempt by the Bama kicker on the opening possesion...
And a Missed 25yrd FG for Arkansas...LOL
I'm writing this as a MISS even before i just seen it get blocked..lol These Kickers are clowns! Seriously, get the Freak off the field and go crawl under a rock all u loser kickers! Freaking clowns! C.Mich Kicker misses 28yrder that would of brought them to OT, then ARK kicker misses 25yrder before half, and bama kickers miss 3FG's all ready in this one! Not to mention, i've seen about 5other misses today! These kickers are idiots!

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 09:04 PM
Dang Bama! Stop pussing out when u get close and having guys trip over there own feet and get in 3rd and 20's and look plain stupid... Jesus!
Alabama drives to the 30 and stalls 3 straight times. They better hope they dont need a FG to win the game

nycsportzfan
11-05-2011, 09:07 PM
Dang Bama! Stop pussing out when u get close and having guys trip over there own feet and get in 3rd and 20's and look plain stupid... Jesus!
Alabama drives to the 30 and stalls 3 straight times. They better hope they dont need a FG to win the game McCarron needs to take some chances and stop pussing out.. Your not always gonna have a guy 10yrds wideopen, u have to be able to stick it in there! Man up!

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 09:10 PM
Trying to watch that Utah St LA Tech game as well right now. Wagner looks like a nice player

Redeyejedi
11-05-2011, 09:37 PM
What an awesome series there Im loving the D

tdawg1413
11-05-2011, 10:50 PM
I have been watching the Arizona State/UCLA game and ASU has some good prospects besides Burfict. Guys, what do you think of RB Cameron Marshall? He has about 170 yds rushing tonight and has looked good. Excellent size with good hands and picks up the blitz nicely. Possible sleeper RB for us. Gerell Robinson is a big WR that makes plays. What are your opinions on these guys?

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 01:01 AM
Thinking about the Heisman Trophy, i don't know how Brandon Weeden dosen't get more love.. Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd n the country, and the guys had a fabulous season, going 36-46 5td against K-state today, and hes got like 27td 9int on the season with a super high comp pct... In my opinion, Brandon Weeden should be the Heisman...

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 01:07 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 01:15 AM
Man, Danny Trevathan LB Kentucky had another INT today, his 3rd staright game with a INT.. The guys had to of made one of the biggest leaps prospect wise this yr, as hes gone from 7th Rd-UDF at the start of the season, to a few people having him in RD 2.. Hes forcing fumbles, making tackles, intercepting balls, getting a couple sacks, and pretty much everything in between.. Trevathan is a nice, somewhat undersized prospect who i really like...

BlueSanta
11-06-2011, 04:36 AM
Thinking about the Heisman Trophy, i don't know how Brandon Weeden dosen't get more love.. Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd n the country, and the guys had a fabulous season, going 36-46 5td against K-state today, and hes got like 27td 9int on the season with a super high comp pct... In my opinion, Brandon Weeden should be the Heisman...


Ya, he has been very good. Dunno if im ready to proclaim him yet, but he deserves more love for sure.

BlueSanta
11-06-2011, 04:41 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 07:48 AM
Thinking about the Heisman Trophy, i don't know how Brandon Weeden dosen't get more love.. Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd n the country, and the guys had a fabulous season, going 36-46 5td against K-state today, and hes got like 27td 9int on the season with a super high comp pct... In my opinion, Brandon Weeden should be the Heisman...


Ya, he has been very good. Dunno if im ready to proclaim him yet, but he deserves more love for sure.
I'm thinking of the Heisman more of the MVP in baseball with my proclaim of Weeden.. In that case, there is no one more valuable then Brandon Weeden... . U take Brandon Weeden from Ok St, and who knows where they are.. I mean, Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd in the country!!! But i gotta realize, the Heisman isn;t the Most valuable player, its the best, most dynamic player in football on the season...

Wow, the last time Ok St was 9-0, they played St Marys in the sugar bowl..lol That was a long time ago!!!(1946).. I would think its gonna be set up for LSU vs Oklahoma St in national Champ game at least for this week..

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 07:50 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
I actually haven't got to watch much of him at all this yr, but i thought he blocked some, no? Either way, hes picked it up as a recieving TE, not nessecarilly for our team, just saying in general..

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 08:28 AM
Looking at next week's slate of games, i see there is some good matchups, lead by Oregon at Stanford.. Its pretty safe to say Gameday is gonna be in Stanford next week.. These are the best matchups of next week in my opinion

Oregon vs Stanford
T.C.U vs Boise St(this could have upset written on it, be careful kellen)
Miami vs Fla St
Va Tech vs Ga Tech
Penn st vs Nebraska(could nebraska give the most overrated team in the country a smack?)
Aubrun vs Georgia(nice game, for 2solid teams, auburn could win this)

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 08:51 AM
Thinking about the Heisman Trophy, i don't know how Brandon Weeden dosen't get more love.. Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd n the country, and the guys had a fabulous season, going 36-46 5td against K-state today, and hes got like 27td 9int on the season with a super high comp pct... In my opinion, Brandon Weeden should be the Heisman...
His age man he is to old.</P>


Cant wait for LSU Arkansas.The best receiving corp vs the best secondary.Arkansas could really muck things up if they can upset LSU</P>

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 08:56 AM
We could get the same situation they had with Texas ,Texas Tech and Oklahoma in the SEC West. Tyler Wilson has been playing very well since the Bama game.That receiving corp is very dangerous they can match LSU on the perimeter.

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 09:02 AM
Man, Danny Trevathan LB Kentucky had another INT today, his 3rd staright game with a INT.. The guys had to of made one of the biggest leaps prospect wise this yr, as hes gone from 7th Rd-UDF at the start of the season, to a few people having him in RD 2.. Hes forcing fumbles, making tackles, intercepting balls, getting a couple sacks, and pretty much everything in between.. Trevathan is a nice, somewhat undersized prospect who i really like...
I like him as well but his measurables will kill him. He will go closer to the 7th then the 2nd I believe.</P>


I like Arkansas LB Jerry Franklin as well.He doesnt get a lot of pub but he is a bruiser . More of a 3-4 guy but he is underrated</P>

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 09:50 AM
Thinking about the Heisman Trophy, i don't know how Brandon Weeden dosen't get more love.. Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd n the country, and the guys had a fabulous season, going 36-46 5td against K-state today, and hes got like 27td 9int on the season with a super high comp pct... In my opinion, Brandon Weeden should be the Heisman...
His age man he is to old.</p>


Cant wait for LSU Arkansas.The best receiving corp vs the best secondary.Arkansas could really muck things up if they can upset LSU</p>If hes not to old to play college football, then hes not to old to WIN the heisman... If he was to old, they woulden't let him even play college football, hes just as eligible as the next guy.. If the Heisman was more like MLB's mvp award, i think Weeden wins hands down, because of what he means to his team, with basically no defense and totally just running to the number 3overall in the country of just the offense... Weeden is the MVP of college football, but not the Heisman winner... I retract my Heisman for Weeden, because its not really most valuable, but a mix of most dynamic, dominating and big stats.. I think the Heisman should go to Trent Richardson, the more i think about it, all though Luck will probably get it...

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 09:55 AM
Man, Danny Trevathan LB Kentucky had another INT today, his 3rd staright game with a INT.. The guys had to of made one of the biggest leaps prospect wise this yr, as hes gone from 7th Rd-UDF at the start of the season, to a few people having him in RD 2.. Hes forcing fumbles, making tackles, intercepting balls, getting a couple sacks, and pretty much everything in between.. Trevathan is a nice, somewhat undersized prospect who i really like...
I like him as well but his measurables will kill him. He will go closer to the 7th then the 2nd I believe.</p>


I like Arkansas LB Jerry Franklin as well.He doesnt get a lot of pub but he is a bruiser . More of a 3-4 guy but he is underrated</p> No way Trevathan goes in rd 5-7.. I will bet my house that he goes the latest, early rd 4... Jonas Mouton wasen't as good a prospect as Trevathan, and he only went in at 6ft 2inch 240lbs, and trevathan is listed at 6ft 1inch 232lbs, and very well could be closer to 240then that listing says.. In new nfl, which is so pass orientated and rules benefit offenses, guys like trevathan are more valuable, and i think you'll see guys like him go sooner then they used to based on the way NFL offenses play now and the new rules.. gotta have LB's that can cover and make plays in the pass game, and Trevathan dosen't mind sticking his nose into the run either...

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 10:01 AM
Man, Danny Trevathan LB Kentucky had another INT today, his 3rd staright game with a INT.. The guys had to of made one of the biggest leaps prospect wise this yr, as hes gone from 7th Rd-UDF at the start of the season, to a few people having him in RD 2.. Hes forcing fumbles, making tackles, intercepting balls, getting a couple sacks, and pretty much everything in between.. Trevathan is a nice, somewhat undersized prospect who i really like...
I like him as well but his measurables will kill him. He will go closer to the 7th then the 2nd I believe.</p>


I like Arkansas LB Jerry Franklin as well.He doesnt get a lot of pub but he is a bruiser . More of a 3-4 guy but he is underrated</p> Also, add in Pat Angerer as well, as undersized playmaker who went in RD 2, becuase hes simply to good, despite his measurables... Back to back seasons, you've had Angerer and Mouton go in RD 2, i think Trevathan could be the next guy, and i believe Jaquain Williams play is also showing that measurables aren't always the best thing to pay attention to,and the on field play is just as big.. I mean, u see Safetys playing huge in run support, let alone 232-240lb Lb's...

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 10:02 AM
Thinking about the Heisman Trophy, i don't know how Brandon Weeden dosen't get more love.. Oklahoma St is ranked 3rd n the country, and the guys had a fabulous season, going 36-46 5td against K-state today, and hes got like 27td 9int on the season with a super high comp pct... In my opinion, Brandon Weeden should be the Heisman...
His age man he is to old.</P>


Cant wait for LSU Arkansas.The best receiving corp vs the best secondary.Arkansas could really muck things up if they can upset LSU</P>If hes not to old to play college football, then hes not to old to WIN the heisman... If he was to old, they woulden't let him even play college football, hes just as eligible as the next guy.. If the Heisman was more like MLB's mvp award, i think Weeden wins hands down, because of what he means to his team, with basically no defense and totally just running to the number 3overall in the country of just the offense... Weeden is the MVP of college football, but not the Heisman winner... I retract my Heisman for Weeden, because its not really most valuable, but a mix of most dynamic, dominating and big stats.. I think the Heisman should go to Trent Richardson, the more i think about it, all though Luck will probably get it...
Yeah I dont see voters giving it to a 28 year old. On top of that Luck,Moore and Richardson are moredeserving. Everyone puts up numbers in that system

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 10:02 AM
We could get the same situation they had with Texas ,Texas Tech and Oklahoma in the SEC West. Tyler Wilson has been playing very well since the Bama game.That receiving corp is very dangerous they can match LSU on the perimeter. I can't wait for that LSU/ ARK game either!

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 10:05 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
They should just call him a WR he doesnt block ever. I keep thinking Chase Coffman with him

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 10:16 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
They should just call him a WR he doesnt block ever. I keep thinking Chase Coffman with him Ya, when i spoke of Egnews success recently, i wasen't thinking of him for us, just speaking about his getting his stats going and stock up a bit, as it was down... There is no way we draft another undersized TE any time soon... Egnew will go somewhere, where a team all ready has a blocking TE, most likely...

nycsportzfan
11-06-2011, 11:21 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
They should just call him a WR he doesnt block ever. I keep thinking Chase Coffman with him what about Rob Housler?

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 12:40 PM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
They should just call him a WR he doesnt block ever. I keep thinking Chase Coffman with him Ya, when i spoke of Egnews success recently, i wasen't thinking of him for us, just speaking about his getting his stats going and stock up a bit, as it was down... There is no way we draft another undersized TE any time soon... Egnew will go somewhere, where a team all ready has a blocking TE, most likely...
Your not the only 1. Ive seen Draftnik praise being thrown on him the last couple weeks on Twitter

Redeyejedi
11-06-2011, 12:49 PM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
They should just call him a WR he doesnt block ever. I keep thinking Chase Coffman with him what about Rob Housler?
I saw Housler block more but yeah U have a point. There arent many true Tight Ends left in CFB. Dwayne Allen and Tyler Eifert are the best 2 prospects I think. Coby Fleener blocks a little. He is like there 3rd option as a blocker at TE

nycsportzfan
11-07-2011, 02:33 AM
hey redeye, what do u think of Ramses? I know it was only 2catches, but 2big catches in his first game back, and he saved a INT on ELI with one of those catches.. As u know , i've always been high on him, and his talent is undeniable in my opinion, all though, people need to remember, reese has built a juggernaut of a offense, and there will be weeks, that guys like Barden and Mario and Cruz will be super silent, and other weeks, where they'll take there turn being huge part of the offense.. I would say i was dead on about John Goff and Victor Cruz, and i'm on my way to being dead on about Ramses barden.. I recall u and Slip being down on both Goff and Barden..lol U know what they got in common? Besides the fact there very smart(ramses could of went to Penn in the ivy league and obviously goff is a vandy kid), they were extremely productive players in college, and good people as well...

nycsportzfan
11-07-2011, 02:42 AM
U know whos been playing well the last 4-5wk's or so? Micheal Egnew TE mizzo.. After a slow start, hes finally picking it back up, and that is mainly because Franklin is becoming better and better as a QB.. Egnew had a 100yrd game a few weeks ago, and had 12receptions for 69yrds today against baylor.. That would be a solid Video for Egnew redeye..

he is 1 of those split out pretend TEs. Dont get me wrong tho, he is a great reciever. He just never lines up tight to the line. He would only fit certain systems because of that. I watch him play and its easy to forget his size. He plays so much like a WR.
They should just call him a WR he doesnt block ever. I keep thinking Chase Coffman with him what about Rob Housler?
I saw Housler block more but yeah U have a point. There arent many true Tight Ends left in CFB. Dwayne Allen and Tyler Eifert are the best 2 prospects I think. Coby Fleener blocks a little. He is like there 3rd option as a blocker at TE Eifert is really impressive, but i'm 10000pct sold on Ballard.. I'm sorry, reese is a freaking genius with his Drafting and udf signings.. How many times after the draft do i plead with so many people on here who question our drafts(how they can is beyond me!), and whine about it, when they should be utterly estatic? I always seem to be amazed at what reese comes away with at the UDF signing period and u can add ballard to the list.. I mean, it seems every yr, theres like 5-7 UDF's that reese gets us, that i'm like, "hey this guys got a chance!!lol" I mean, u know how hard it is for a UDF to make it, and every yr, theres a handful that either make it or bring it right to the limit for us, and thats after a remarkable regular draft.. I can't tell u how much i love Jerry Reese as a GM.. Seriously, there is no one who freaking just raves about our drafts and UDF's like i do, and i don't want to, but jeez, u can't help it!!! When u see guys like Greg Jones in RD 6 and James Brewer in RD 4, and Darel Scott in RD 7, and he knows enough to snatch up Linval(loved em as a prospect!) in RD 2, and he finds Barden and Jerrnigan and Mario in RD 3, and Nicks almost at the end of RD 1, and our starting LT at the end of RD 2, and a sick run stuffing, getting better every snap before his Injury MLB in RD 5, and a super athletic S in RD 3, who hopefully will play someday, and i could do this all day!!lol

My point is, i'm not as intrigued anymore with the TE's, because we got one! I'm 100pct sold on Jake Ballard! U certainly can't say the old, "no one covers him" trick anymore..lol Boy is a baller! I could see us taking a guy in the mid to late rds, because we could use a backup, but i think Ballards are guy for awhile...

nycsportzfan
11-07-2011, 03:16 AM
Its that time again, the Weekly Mock Draft from everybodys favorite Sportzfan!!!lol WHat a WIN against NE! Just remarkable! The talent on this giants team , is litteraly from Top to bottom.. I mean, if they could ever stay healthy, they could have the most Talent from Top to bottom, hands down in the whole league.. Anyhow, i got us picking 28th this week, up from i think 26th last wk... And obviously, every round, i'm doing my mock with us picking 28th in that Round... I'm also giving us as i did last week, a 4th round COMP pick for barry cofield, as i think thats what we'll get for him... Lets do it!!

1. Micahel Brewster C Ohio St- Its clear, we still haven't solved our longterm C problem, as Baas has been good but not great, and injury prone, and i'd like him to move over to his natural G positon next yr and take over for soon to be ex giant(thanks for memories davie!), David Diehl.. Diehl is due to much money and will certainly be let go after this season.. I don't need to rant about Brewster because hes in a few of my prior mocks.. Hes a great C prospect, and i think will really help that Up the Gut running for us.. Hes a complete C with great size, technique and nastiness..Reminds me of Alex Mack...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I really like McDonald, and i don't know how much Doe KP will ask for when his FA'cy comes up, and we could simply use another S that can get after it against the Pass, but yet has the size to defend the run as well.. McDonald is right at the top of the Safety Class, but its not a great top heavy class, so i got him falling to end of RD 2 for us.. He Reminds me of KP kinda, but the KP before the Knee issues.. McDonald could have the career we thought KP was gonna have..(not that KPs been dreadful or anything, but u know what i mean)

3. Devin Taylor DE South Carolina- A athletic Freak! U put him on the field with JPP, and Kiwi, and Marvin Austin, and Linval, and Prince, and TT, and Rolle, and Jaquain WIlliams, and yada yada yada, and jesus!!lol Hes very Long obviously, and has gotten a pick in back to back yrs because of that length, and i could see him being a batted ball machine, and really help keep the stable of pass rushers filled for us, with OSI's future in question and Tuck another yr older..

4 Doug Martin RB Boise St- I see a bit of Ray Rice in Martin, and with Bradshaws feet issues and Jacobs probably out of here after the season, a RB could be usefull, and Martin runs hard, has pretty solid enough speed, nice low center of gravity, and can keep going after contact... Martin/Bradshaw/Scott as are future 3rb's... They could really be a beastly 3some..

4. Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas- As redeye does, i also just really like Franklins game.. With Goffs injury, we could bring in another MLB to challenge Greg Jones going forward, or possibly move Franklin to SLB, and Kiwi back to End.. Either way, Franklin is good value in the COMP picks of RD 4, and worth a shot...

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Not sure if he makes it here, but its possible with a good class of CB's coming out, and i'm sure a heap of Jr's as well.. Chism is very underrated and has the Giant CB size, and very good speed and expierence.. His ball skills are above averege and to be honest, i'm surprised he dosen't get more attention, all though Maryland is having a horrific season..

6. Chandler Harnish QB No. Illinois- Spoken about him before, and hes back in this mock.. I like Chandler becasue of his versatility, with the ability to Run and throw, and he seems to have a bit of that "it" factor, and is worth taking a chance on, in my opinion..

7. Josh Chichester TE Louisville- A nice Sleeper pick, whos more WR then Blocking TE, but when u used to be a WR, that is usually how it works..lol hes got a ton of the physical tools, and room to add weight, and just on upside and potential, is worth a shot.. A intriguing guy....

BlueSanta
11-07-2011, 07:10 AM
Its that time again, the Weekly Mock Draft from everybodys favorite Sportzfan!!!lol WHat a WIN against NE! Just remarkable! The talent on this giants team , is litteraly from Top to bottom.. I mean, if they could ever stay healthy, they could have the most Talent from Top to bottom, hands down in the whole league.. Anyhow, i got us picking 28th this week, up from i think 26th last wk... And obviously, every round, i'm doing my mock with us picking 28th in that Round... I'm also giving us as i did last week, a 4th round COMP pick for barry cofield, as i think thats what we'll get for him... Lets do it!!

1. Micahel Brewster C Ohio St- Its clear, we still haven't solved our longterm C problem, as Baas has been good but not great, and injury prone, and i'd like him to move over to his natural G positon next yr and take over for soon to be ex giant(thanks for memories davie!), David Diehl.. Diehl is due to much money and will certainly be let go after this season.. I don't need to rant about Brewster because hes in a few of my prior mocks.. Hes a great C prospect, and i think will really help that Up the Gut running for us.. Hes a complete C with great size, technique and nastiness..Reminds me of Alex Mack...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I really like McDonald, and i don't know how much Doe KP will ask for when his FA'cy comes up, and we could simply use another S that can get after it against the Pass, but yet has the size to defend the run as well.. McDonald is right at the top of the Safety Class, but its not a great top heavy class, so i got him falling to end of RD 2 for us.. He Reminds me of KP kinda, but the KP before the Knee issues.. McDonald could have the career we thought KP was gonna have..(not that KPs been dreadful or anything, but u know what i mean)

3. Devin Taylor DE South Carolina- A athletic Freak! U put him on the field with JPP, and Kiwi, and Marvin Austin, and Linval, and Prince, and TT, and Rolle, and Jaquain WIlliams, and yada yada yada, and jesus!!lol Hes very Long obviously, and has gotten a pick in back to back yrs because of that length, and i could see him being a batted ball machine, and really help keep the stable of pass rushers filled for us, with OSI's future in question and Tuck another yr older..

4 Doug Martin RB Boise St- I see a bit of Ray Rice in Martin, and with Bradshaws feet issues and Jacobs probably out of here after the season, a RB could be usefull, and Martin runs hard, has pretty solid enough speed, nice low center of gravity, and can keep going after contact... Martin/Bradshaw/Scott as are future 3rb's... They could really be a beastly 3some..

4. Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas- As redeye does, i also just really like Franklins game.. With Goffs injury, we could bring in another MLB to challenge Greg Jones going forward, or possibly move Franklin to SLB, and Kiwi back to End.. Either way, Franklin is good value in the COMP picks of RD 4, and worth a shot...

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Not sure if he makes it here, but its possible with a good class of CB's coming out, and i'm sure a heap of Jr's as well.. Chism is very underrated and has the Giant CB size, and very good speed and expierence.. His ball skills are above averege and to be honest, i'm surprised he dosen't get more attention, all though Maryland is having a horrific season..

6. Chandler Harnish QB No. Illinois- Spoken about him before, and hes back in this mock.. I like Chandler becasue of his versatility, with the ability to Run and throw, and he seems to have a bit of that "it" factor, and is worth taking a chance on, in my opinion..

7. Josh Chichester TE Louisville- A nice Sleeper pick, whos more WR then Blocking TE, but when u used to be a WR, that is usually how it works..lol hes got a ton of the physical tools, and room to add weight, and just on upside and potential, is worth a shot.. A intriguing guy....


Well thought out as usual. As I said last time you mentioned him I do like Brewster for us as well. TJ McDonald is a Giants type defensive player. In todays NFL I do worry a little a penalties he wracks up for hits up high and on defenseless players. He wrecks people. But, he is a good tackler and a long player who gets way up to intercept/ deflect passes. He would be handy vs all the tall WRs in this division/league, the guy gets way up there.

Chism is a good smart player who puts himself in good spots. But, I want to see him run at the combine. I worry about his speed, moreso than quickness. Its also hard to judge him because Maryland plays so much zone.

Redeyejedi
11-07-2011, 07:44 AM
Its that time again, the Weekly Mock Draft from everybodys favorite Sportzfan!!!lol WHat a WIN against NE! Just remarkable! The talent on this giants team , is litteraly from Top to bottom.. I mean, if they could ever stay healthy, they could have the most Talent from Top to bottom, hands down in the whole league.. Anyhow, i got us picking 28th this week, up from i think 26th last wk... And obviously, every round, i'm doing my mock with us picking 28th in that Round... I'm also giving us as i did last week, a 4th round COMP pick for barry cofield, as i think thats what we'll get for him... Lets do it!!

1. Micahel Brewster C Ohio St- Its clear, we still haven't solved our longterm C problem, as Baas has been good but not great, and injury prone, and i'd like him to move over to his natural G positon next yr and take over for soon to be ex giant(thanks for memories davie!), David Diehl.. Diehl is due to much money and will certainly be let go after this season.. I don't need to rant about Brewster because hes in a few of my prior mocks.. Hes a great C prospect, and i think will really help that Up the Gut running for us.. Hes a complete C with great size, technique and nastiness..Reminds me of Alex Mack...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I really like McDonald, and i don't know how much Doe KP will ask for when his FA'cy comes up, and we could simply use another S that can get after it against the Pass, but yet has the size to defend the run as well.. McDonald is right at the top of the Safety Class, but its not a great top heavy class, so i got him falling to end of RD 2 for us.. He Reminds me of KP kinda, but the KP before the Knee issues.. McDonald could have the career we thought KP was gonna have..(not that KPs been dreadful or anything, but u know what i mean)

3. Devin Taylor DE South Carolina- A athletic Freak! U put him on the field with JPP, and Kiwi, and Marvin Austin, and Linval, and Prince, and TT, and Rolle, and Jaquain WIlliams, and yada yada yada, and jesus!!lol Hes very Long obviously, and has gotten a pick in back to back yrs because of that length, and i could see him being a batted ball machine, and really help keep the stable of pass rushers filled for us, with OSI's future in question and Tuck another yr older..

4 Doug Martin RB Boise St- I see a bit of Ray Rice in Martin, and with Bradshaws feet issues and Jacobs probably out of here after the season, a RB could be usefull, and Martin runs hard, has pretty solid enough speed, nice low center of gravity, and can keep going after contact... Martin/Bradshaw/Scott as are future 3rb's... They could really be a beastly 3some..

4. Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas- As redeye does, i also just really like Franklins game.. With Goffs injury, we could bring in another MLB to challenge Greg Jones going forward, or possibly move Franklin to SLB, and Kiwi back to End.. Either way, Franklin is good value in the COMP picks of RD 4, and worth a shot...

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Not sure if he makes it here, but its possible with a good class of CB's coming out, and i'm sure a heap of Jr's as well.. Chism is very underrated and has the Giant CB size, and very good speed and expierence.. His ball skills are above averege and to be honest, i'm surprised he dosen't get more attention, all though Maryland is having a horrific season..

6. Chandler Harnish QB No. Illinois- Spoken about him before, and hes back in this mock.. I like Chandler becasue of his versatility, with the ability to Run and throw, and he seems to have a bit of that "it" factor, and is worth taking a chance on, in my opinion..

7. Josh Chichester TE Louisville- A nice Sleeper pick, whos more WR then Blocking TE, but when u used to be a WR, that is usually how it works..lol hes got a ton of the physical tools, and room to add weight, and just on upside and potential, is worth a shot.. A intriguing guy....
Yeah its good not sure if Taylor will come out if he is projected as a 3rd rounder i like the players

Redeyejedi
11-07-2011, 08:03 AM
hey redeye, what do u think of Ramses? I know it was only 2catches, but 2big catches in his first game back, and he saved a INT on ELI with one of those catches.. As u know , i've always been high on him, and his talent is undeniable in my opinion, all though, people need to remember, reese has built a juggernaut of a offense, and there will be weeks, that guys like Barden and Mario and Cruz will be super silent, and other weeks, where they'll take there turn being huge part of the offense.. I would say i was dead on about John Goff and Victor Cruz, and i'm on my way to being dead on about Ramses barden.. I recall u and Slip being down on both Goff and Barden..lol U know what they got in common? Besides the fact there very smart(ramses could of went to Penn in the ivy league and obviously goff is a vandy kid), they were extremely productive players in college, and good people as well...
I never thought Goff was a starter. Thought he was more of a back up not like he shouldnt be in the NFL or anything. Barden is still an enigma. I still just havent seen much of him. I still have seen far more snaps fromunderclassmen WR's in the SEC then I have of Barden in his 3rd year. I didnt like what I saw from his college tapes. I really didnt like his route running and his hands were suspect. Id still take it easywith Barden I still dont think he will pan out as a Top 3 receiver on a team. I still maintain College productivity has really little effect on how good of an NFL Player u will be.

nycsportzfan
11-07-2011, 09:08 AM
hey redeye, what do u think of Ramses? I know it was only 2catches, but 2big catches in his first game back, and he saved a INT on ELI with one of those catches.. As u know , i've always been high on him, and his talent is undeniable in my opinion, all though, people need to remember, reese has built a juggernaut of a offense, and there will be weeks, that guys like Barden and Mario and Cruz will be super silent, and other weeks, where they'll take there turn being huge part of the offense.. I would say i was dead on about John Goff and Victor Cruz, and i'm on my way to being dead on about Ramses barden.. I recall u and Slip being down on both Goff and Barden..lol U know what they got in common? Besides the fact there very smart(ramses could of went to Penn in the ivy league and obviously goff is a vandy kid), they were extremely productive players in college, and good people as well...
I never thought Goff was a starter. Thought he was more of a back up not like he shouldnt be in the NFL or anything. Barden is still an enigma. I still just havent seen much of him. I still have seen far more snaps fromunderclassmen WR's in the SEC then I have of Barden in his 3rd year. I didnt like what I saw from his college tapes. I really didnt like his route running and his hands were suspect. Id still take it easywith Barden I still dont think he will pan out as a Top 3 receiver on a team. I still maintain College productivity has really little effect on how good of an NFL Player u will be. I don't know about that.. I've seen Barden make tons of sensational catches with DB's drapped all over him on those Fades in the endzone, where he also has to show great concentration just to get his feet in bounds.... Bardens definetly gonna contribute, regardless if anyone believes it or not, he just is... Hes just to good not to.. As for Goff, he was poised to have a yr that rivaled Antonio Pierces best season with us, in my opinion... In my opinion, he was turning into more then just a run stuffer, who can get behind the line, but also a solid pass defender, at least as solid as a sensational run defender can be..lol As far as college production, i don't think its 100pct nessecary, but it certainly helps, if the dudes dominate a lower level of competition...

Redeyejedi
11-07-2011, 09:53 AM
hey redeye, what do u think of Ramses? I know it was only 2catches, but 2big catches in his first game back, and he saved a INT on ELI with one of those catches.. As u know , i've always been high on him, and his talent is undeniable in my opinion, all though, people need to remember, reese has built a juggernaut of a offense, and there will be weeks, that guys like Barden and Mario and Cruz will be super silent, and other weeks, where they'll take there turn being huge part of the offense.. I would say i was dead on about John Goff and Victor Cruz, and i'm on my way to being dead on about Ramses barden.. I recall u and Slip being down on both Goff and Barden..lol U know what they got in common? Besides the fact there very smart(ramses could of went to Penn in the ivy league and obviously goff is a vandy kid), they were extremely productive players in college, and good people as well...
I never thought Goff was a starter. Thought he was more of a back up not like he shouldnt be in the NFL or anything. Barden is still an enigma. I still just havent seen much of him. I still have seen far more snaps fromunderclassmen WR's in the SEC then I have of Barden in his 3rd year. I didnt like what I saw from his college tapes. I really didnt like his route running and his hands were suspect. Id still take it easywith Barden I still dont think he will pan out as a Top 3 receiver on a team. I still maintain College productivity has really little effect on how good of an NFL Player u will be. I don't know about that.. I've seen Barden make tons of sensational catches with DB's drapped all over him on those Fades in the endzone, where he also has to show great concentration just to get his feet in bounds.... Bardens definetly gonna contribute, regardless if anyone believes it or not, he just is... Hes just to good not to.. As for Goff, he was poised to have a yr that rivaled Antonio Pierces best season with us, in my opinion... In my opinion, he was turning into more then just a run stuffer, who can get behind the line, but also a solid pass defender, at least as solid as a sensational run defender can be..lol As far as college production, i don't think its 100pct nessecary, but it certainly helps, if the dudes dominate a lower level of competition...
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I agree with U about Goff. He looked fantastic this pre season. His pass defense looked much better.That injury really sucked it hurt the Giants run defense a lot. </P>

Redeyejedi
11-07-2011, 10:54 AM
Dude this is awesome the NFLPA game which has replaced the Texas Nation game will now allow All draft eligible players to play. Meaning we finally get a post season game that will allow Juniors to play. This has pissed me off to no end that we never get a look at these guys in these games and we finally do. Before the Texas Nation game was filled with late rounders but now this will turn into a much better game with top tier guys as well. The only thing that sux is that the game is within the same week as the Senior Bowl so the Senior Bowl players wont play in the game but thats okay. We will get underclassman and late round guys.</P>


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7202855/nflpa-stage-pre-draft-game-los-angeles</P>

nycsportzfan
11-07-2011, 05:31 PM
Dude this is awesome the NFLPA game which has replaced the Texas Nation game will now allow All draft eligible players to play. Meaning we finally get a post season game that will allow Juniors to play. This has pissed me off to no end that we never get a look at these guys in these games and we finally do. Before the Texas Nation game was filled with late rounders but now this will turn into a much better game with top tier guys as well. The only thing that sux is that the game is within the same week as the Senior Bowl so the Senior Bowl players wont play in the game but thats okay. We will get underclassman and late round guys.</p>


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7202855/nflpa-stage-pre-draft-game-los-angeles</p> Great News...

BlueSanta
11-07-2011, 07:05 PM
Dude this is awesome the NFLPA game which has replaced the Texas Nation game will now allow All draft eligible players to play. Meaning we finally get a post season game that will allow Juniors to play. This has pissed me off to no end that we never get a look at these guys in these games and we finally do. Before the Texas Nation game was filled with late rounders but now this will turn into a much better game with top tier guys as well. The only thing that sux is that the game is within the same week as the Senior Bowl so the Senior Bowl players wont play in the game but thats okay. We will get underclassman and late round guys.</p>


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/7202855/nflpa-stage-pre-draft-game-los-angeles</p> Great News...


I agree, thats an huge change. Those games will have a whole new meaning now.

tdawg1413
11-07-2011, 10:44 PM
There goes one of my favorites. Got this on Rotoworld.

Texas A&M running back Christine Michael will miss the rest of the season after tearing his ACL Saturday against Oklahoma.

nycsportzfan
11-08-2011, 05:33 AM
There goes one of my favorites. Got this on Rotoworld.

Texas A&amp;M running back Christine Michael will miss the rest of the season after tearing his ACL Saturday against Oklahoma. Well, that stinks.. Guess we know his decison.. Cyrus Gray should use the last few games and bowl game to really try and get his stock back up there..

nycsportzfan
11-08-2011, 05:35 AM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?

Redeyejedi
11-08-2011, 08:05 AM
There goes one of my favorites. Got this on Rotoworld. Texas A&amp;M running back Christine Michael will miss the rest of the season after tearing his ACL Saturday against Oklahoma. Well, that stinks.. Guess we know his decison.. Cyrus Gray should use the last few games and bowl game to really try and get his stock back up there..
Thats a rough injury for a RB. Gray has a good all around skill set. Not sure if he is an elite type talent but a lot of RB's have had very good years in the NFL without being an elite "Trent Richardson" type runner. I like Chris Polk for the Giants think he is a good fit here

nycsportzfan
11-08-2011, 08:17 AM
There goes one of my favorites. Got this on Rotoworld. Texas A&amp;M running back Christine Michael will miss the rest of the season after tearing his ACL Saturday against Oklahoma. Well, that stinks.. Guess we know his decison.. Cyrus Gray should use the last few games and bowl game to really try and get his stock back up there..
Thats a rough injury for a RB. Gray has a good all around skill set. Not sure if he is an elite type talent but a lot of RB's have had very good years in the NFL without being an elite "Trent Richardson" type runner. I like Chris Polk for the Giants think he is a good fit here Yup, Chris Polk for me, is clearly the 2nd best back in the NFL, and possibly a late 1st rounder by Draft time... Hes the complete package, and reminds me alot of Steven Jackson..

Redeyejedi
11-08-2011, 08:45 AM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
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Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</P>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</P>

nycsportzfan
11-08-2011, 10:05 PM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
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Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</p>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</p> ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?

par404
11-08-2011, 10:26 PM
Dillard is gone. Now with Carolina practice squad.

thegreatone
11-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Its that time again, the Weekly Mock Draft from everybodys favorite Sportzfan!!!lol WHat a WIN against NE! Just remarkable! The talent on this giants team , is litteraly from Top to bottom.. I mean, if they could ever stay healthy, they could have the most Talent from Top to bottom, hands down in the whole league.. Anyhow, i got us picking 28th this week, up from i think 26th last wk... And obviously, every round, i'm doing my mock with us picking 28th in that Round... I'm also giving us as i did last week, a 4th round COMP pick for barry cofield, as i think thats what we'll get for him... Lets do it!!

1. Micahel Brewster C Ohio St- Its clear, we still haven't solved our longterm C problem, as Baas has been good but not great, and injury prone, and i'd like him to move over to his natural G positon next yr and take over for soon to be ex giant(thanks for memories davie!), David Diehl.. Diehl is due to much money and will certainly be let go after this season.. I don't need to rant about Brewster because hes in a few of my prior mocks.. Hes a great C prospect, and i think will really help that Up the Gut running for us.. Hes a complete C with great size, technique and nastiness..Reminds me of Alex Mack...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I really like McDonald, and i don't know how much Doe KP will ask for when his FA'cy comes up, and we could simply use another S that can get after it against the Pass, but yet has the size to defend the run as well.. McDonald is right at the top of the Safety Class, but its not a great top heavy class, so i got him falling to end of RD 2 for us.. He Reminds me of KP kinda, but the KP before the Knee issues.. McDonald could have the career we thought KP was gonna have..(not that KPs been dreadful or anything, but u know what i mean)

3. Devin Taylor DE South Carolina- A athletic Freak! U put him on the field with JPP, and Kiwi, and Marvin Austin, and Linval, and Prince, and TT, and Rolle, and Jaquain WIlliams, and yada yada yada, and jesus!!lol Hes very Long obviously, and has gotten a pick in back to back yrs because of that length, and i could see him being a batted ball machine, and really help keep the stable of pass rushers filled for us, with OSI's future in question and Tuck another yr older..

4 Doug Martin RB Boise St- I see a bit of Ray Rice in Martin, and with Bradshaws feet issues and Jacobs probably out of here after the season, a RB could be usefull, and Martin runs hard, has pretty solid enough speed, nice low center of gravity, and can keep going after contact... Martin/Bradshaw/Scott as are future 3rb's... They could really be a beastly 3some..

4. Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas- As redeye does, i also just really like Franklins game.. With Goffs injury, we could bring in another MLB to challenge Greg Jones going forward, or possibly move Franklin to SLB, and Kiwi back to End.. Either way, Franklin is good value in the COMP picks of RD 4, and worth a shot...

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Not sure if he makes it here, but its possible with a good class of CB's coming out, and i'm sure a heap of Jr's as well.. Chism is very underrated and has the Giant CB size, and very good speed and expierence.. His ball skills are above averege and to be honest, i'm surprised he dosen't get more attention, all though Maryland is having a horrific season..

6. Chandler Harnish QB No. Illinois- Spoken about him before, and hes back in this mock.. I like Chandler becasue of his versatility, with the ability to Run and throw, and he seems to have a bit of that "it" factor, and is worth taking a chance on, in my opinion..

7. Josh Chichester TE Louisville- A nice Sleeper pick, whos more WR then Blocking TE, but when u used to be a WR, that is usually how it works..lol hes got a ton of the physical tools, and room to add weight, and just on upside and potential, is worth a shot.. A intriguing guy....


this is interesting as there are a lot of guys i like around 28. lamaar miller,ta'amu,konz,allen,worthy hmm. yes i know you dont like to pick underclassmen but seeing as you and i arent psychics i dont care about accuracy but this is how id go.

1.Lamaar Miller RB Miami- miller is a great rb and is gaining steam every week it seems. We have to revamp our run game and that starts with the oline. Unfortunately it doesnt seem like our FO like interior linemen in round one. Jacobs has completely fallen off the reservation (oline hugely to blame) and bradshaw feet always seem to have some problem. Miller could be a major offensive weapon for us.(Alt: worthy)

2.Lucas Nix OG Pitt- same as last week. Big body, interior lineman, great potential.

3.Brandon Boykin CB Georgia- not really in giants mold but personally i dont like our mold. I want speed on the edges

4.TY Hilton WR FIU- same as last week. He will move up in the next few months but until then STEAL!

4.Lance Lewis WR ECU- there are alot of factors that will play into this pick. Nicks and cruz are gimmies unless one of them holds out. After that the field gets muddled. jernigan you can probably keep, but what a disappointing rookie year so far. MM will command big bucks, hixon might be done, barden needs to step it up. Lewis is a very good possession receiver and can make the tough catches. reminds me a lot of amani

5.Tyrone Crawford DE Boise ST

6.James Brown OT Troy

7.Moe Petrus C Uconn

nycsportzfan
11-09-2011, 01:58 PM
Its that time again, the Weekly Mock Draft from everybodys favorite Sportzfan!!!lol WHat a WIN against NE! Just remarkable! The talent on this giants team , is litteraly from Top to bottom.. I mean, if they could ever stay healthy, they could have the most Talent from Top to bottom, hands down in the whole league.. Anyhow, i got us picking 28th this week, up from i think 26th last wk... And obviously, every round, i'm doing my mock with us picking 28th in that Round... I'm also giving us as i did last week, a 4th round COMP pick for barry cofield, as i think thats what we'll get for him... Lets do it!!

1. Micahel Brewster C Ohio St- Its clear, we still haven't solved our longterm C problem, as Baas has been good but not great, and injury prone, and i'd like him to move over to his natural G positon next yr and take over for soon to be ex giant(thanks for memories davie!), David Diehl.. Diehl is due to much money and will certainly be let go after this season.. I don't need to rant about Brewster because hes in a few of my prior mocks.. Hes a great C prospect, and i think will really help that Up the Gut running for us.. Hes a complete C with great size, technique and nastiness..Reminds me of Alex Mack...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I really like McDonald, and i don't know how much Doe KP will ask for when his FA'cy comes up, and we could simply use another S that can get after it against the Pass, but yet has the size to defend the run as well.. McDonald is right at the top of the Safety Class, but its not a great top heavy class, so i got him falling to end of RD 2 for us.. He Reminds me of KP kinda, but the KP before the Knee issues.. McDonald could have the career we thought KP was gonna have..(not that KPs been dreadful or anything, but u know what i mean)

3. Devin Taylor DE South Carolina- A athletic Freak! U put him on the field with JPP, and Kiwi, and Marvin Austin, and Linval, and Prince, and TT, and Rolle, and Jaquain WIlliams, and yada yada yada, and jesus!!lol Hes very Long obviously, and has gotten a pick in back to back yrs because of that length, and i could see him being a batted ball machine, and really help keep the stable of pass rushers filled for us, with OSI's future in question and Tuck another yr older..

4 Doug Martin RB Boise St- I see a bit of Ray Rice in Martin, and with Bradshaws feet issues and Jacobs probably out of here after the season, a RB could be usefull, and Martin runs hard, has pretty solid enough speed, nice low center of gravity, and can keep going after contact... Martin/Bradshaw/Scott as are future 3rb's... They could really be a beastly 3some..

4. Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas- As redeye does, i also just really like Franklins game.. With Goffs injury, we could bring in another MLB to challenge Greg Jones going forward, or possibly move Franklin to SLB, and Kiwi back to End.. Either way, Franklin is good value in the COMP picks of RD 4, and worth a shot...

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Not sure if he makes it here, but its possible with a good class of CB's coming out, and i'm sure a heap of Jr's as well.. Chism is very underrated and has the Giant CB size, and very good speed and expierence.. His ball skills are above averege and to be honest, i'm surprised he dosen't get more attention, all though Maryland is having a horrific season..

6. Chandler Harnish QB No. Illinois- Spoken about him before, and hes back in this mock.. I like Chandler becasue of his versatility, with the ability to Run and throw, and he seems to have a bit of that "it" factor, and is worth taking a chance on, in my opinion..

7. Josh Chichester TE Louisville- A nice Sleeper pick, whos more WR then Blocking TE, but when u used to be a WR, that is usually how it works..lol hes got a ton of the physical tools, and room to add weight, and just on upside and potential, is worth a shot.. A intriguing guy....


this is interesting as there are a lot of guys i like around 28. lamaar miller,ta'amu,konz,allen,worthy hmm. yes i know you dont like to pick underclassmen but seeing as you and i arent psychics i dont care about accuracy but this is how id go.

1.Lamaar Miller RB Miami- miller is a great rb and is gaining steam every week it seems. We have to revamp our run game and that starts with the oline. Unfortunately it doesnt seem like our FO like interior linemen in round one. Jacobs has completely fallen off the reservation (oline hugely to blame) and bradshaw feet always seem to have some problem. Miller could be a major offensive weapon for us.(Alt: worthy)

2.Lucas Nix OG Pitt- same as last week. Big body, interior lineman, great potential.

3.Brandon Boykin CB Georgia- not really in giants mold but personally i dont like our mold. I want speed on the edges

4.TY Hilton WR FIU- same as last week. He will move up in the next few months but until then STEAL!

4.Lance Lewis WR ECU- there are alot of factors that will play into this pick. Nicks and cruz are gimmies unless one of them holds out. After that the field gets muddled. jernigan you can probably keep, but what a disappointing rookie year so far. MM will command big bucks, hixon might be done, barden needs to step it up. Lewis is a very good possession receiver and can make the tough catches. reminds me a lot of amani

5.Tyrone Crawford DE Boise ST

6.James Brown OT Troy

7.Moe Petrus C Uconn
The Thing about T.Y Hilton that i think will make us not pick him is we just picked Jerrnigan whos similar in playing style, size, and even outta the same confrence..lol There basically the same player.. So, i'd be surprised if we took another player like that, and i would be surprised if we went WR twice, unless one was just to much value in the end rounds.. I like the value of Tyrone Crawford in RD 5, as a potentially solid rotational DE, all though, he might go earier, but if there in 5, good value..
Petrus and Nix would bring solid size and run blocking to the table, and would help that interior run game... As i told Santa, i'm not huge on Lamar Miller right now, because i feel he trys going around the contact more then through it, and in bad situations, when he should be plowing for the first down, i've seen that style by him cost his team, but the upside is tremendous... Solid, all though i'd do a few things diffrent.. I liked your last mock better...

tdawg1413
11-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Okay, so I have a day off today and decided to do a mock offseason for us. Let me know what you think. This includes FA losses, cuts, players resigned and signings:

Resigned - David Carr QB, Stacy Andrews G/T, Terrell Thomas CB, Michael Coe CB, Bear Pascoe FB

Cuts - Brandon Jacobs RB, David Diehl G, D. Hixon WR, Deon Grant S, Derrick Martin S, Henry Hynoski FB, Travis Beckum TE, Clint Sintim LB, D.J. Ware RB

Lose Via FA - Mario Manningham WR, Dave Tollefson DE, Jon Goff LB, Aaron Ross CB, Devin Thomas WR, Kareem McKenzie T

FA signed -
Chilo Rachal G - Physical Guard who can move well and still young
Gary Guyton LB - Excellent MLB prospect stuck behind Spikes and Mayo in NE.
Howard Green DT - Large rotational run stuffer. provides depth if Austin cannot come back
Martellus Bennett TE - Upside TE who could not make it in Dallas. Has a ton of ability. Maybe a change of scenery will help.

Draft - I have us getting an extra 4th rounder due to loss of Barry Cofield

1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - Versatile Tackle who can play both right and left but will play right with us to begin. May slide in day 1 as a starter.
2. Andre Branch - DE Clemson - We love pass rushers and he adds to the stable and replaces the departed Tollefson in the rotation.
3. Nigel Bradham - LB Florida State - Super athletic LB who needs time to learn to use his ability to the max. Can sit a year or two and contribute on specials while learning.
4. Jordan White - WR W. Michigan - I have watched enough of this guy to see he is the real deal. Good size/speed combo with excellent hands and can make people miss. He replaces Mario in the rotation and gives us our future #2 with Cruz in the slot.
4. Jamell Fleming - CB Oklahoma - Good size and speed and a player who has made some strides this year. Could fit in our corner rotation with an eye towards a starting role in the future.
5. Bobby Rainey - RB Western Kentucky - Ultra prodcutive RB with good hands that could be our 3rd down back right away. Short but built well and a good pass protector from what I have seen.
6. George Iloka - S Boise State - Good depth and special teams player from a school that teaches how to play correctly.
7. D'Jon McKnight - WR Minnesota - Another WR to add to the corps. Strong physical WR with decent speed that we can groom to play for a future role.

Depth Chart

QB - Eli, Carr
RB - Bradshaw, Scott, Rainey
FB - Pascoe
WR1 - Nicks, Barden, White
WR2 - Cruz, Jernigan, McKnight
TE - Ballard, Bennett
LT - Beatty, Brewer
LG - Rachal, Petrus
C - Baas, Cordle
RG - Snee, Boothe
RT - Adams, Brewer

DE - JPP, Osi
DT - Canty, Austin
DT - Joseph, Bernard, Green
DE - Tuck, Branch
WLB - Boley, Williams
MLB - Guyton, Herzlich, Jones
SLB - Kiwi, Bradham
CB - Webster, Prince, Coe
SS - Phillips, Iloka
FS - Rolle, Sash, Chad Jones
CB - Thomas, Fleming, B. Johnson
K - Tynes
P - Weatherford
PR - Jernigan
KR - Jernigan, Scott

thegreatone
11-09-2011, 10:34 PM
Its that time again, the Weekly Mock Draft from everybodys favorite Sportzfan!!!lol WHat a WIN against NE! Just remarkable! The talent on this giants team , is litteraly from Top to bottom.. I mean, if they could ever stay healthy, they could have the most Talent from Top to bottom, hands down in the whole league.. Anyhow, i got us picking 28th this week, up from i think 26th last wk... And obviously, every round, i'm doing my mock with us picking 28th in that Round... I'm also giving us as i did last week, a 4th round COMP pick for barry cofield, as i think thats what we'll get for him... Lets do it!!

1. Micahel Brewster C Ohio St- Its clear, we still haven't solved our longterm C problem, as Baas has been good but not great, and injury prone, and i'd like him to move over to his natural G positon next yr and take over for soon to be ex giant(thanks for memories davie!), David Diehl.. Diehl is due to much money and will certainly be let go after this season.. I don't need to rant about Brewster because hes in a few of my prior mocks.. Hes a great C prospect, and i think will really help that Up the Gut running for us.. Hes a complete C with great size, technique and nastiness..Reminds me of Alex Mack...

2. Tj Mcdonald S U.S.C- I really like McDonald, and i don't know how much Doe KP will ask for when his FA'cy comes up, and we could simply use another S that can get after it against the Pass, but yet has the size to defend the run as well.. McDonald is right at the top of the Safety Class, but its not a great top heavy class, so i got him falling to end of RD 2 for us.. He Reminds me of KP kinda, but the KP before the Knee issues.. McDonald could have the career we thought KP was gonna have..(not that KPs been dreadful or anything, but u know what i mean)

3. Devin Taylor DE South Carolina- A athletic Freak! U put him on the field with JPP, and Kiwi, and Marvin Austin, and Linval, and Prince, and TT, and Rolle, and Jaquain WIlliams, and yada yada yada, and jesus!!lol Hes very Long obviously, and has gotten a pick in back to back yrs because of that length, and i could see him being a batted ball machine, and really help keep the stable of pass rushers filled for us, with OSI's future in question and Tuck another yr older..

4 Doug Martin RB Boise St- I see a bit of Ray Rice in Martin, and with Bradshaws feet issues and Jacobs probably out of here after the season, a RB could be usefull, and Martin runs hard, has pretty solid enough speed, nice low center of gravity, and can keep going after contact... Martin/Bradshaw/Scott as are future 3rb's... They could really be a beastly 3some..

4. Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas- As redeye does, i also just really like Franklins game.. With Goffs injury, we could bring in another MLB to challenge Greg Jones going forward, or possibly move Franklin to SLB, and Kiwi back to End.. Either way, Franklin is good value in the COMP picks of RD 4, and worth a shot...

5. Cameron Chism CB Maryland- Not sure if he makes it here, but its possible with a good class of CB's coming out, and i'm sure a heap of Jr's as well.. Chism is very underrated and has the Giant CB size, and very good speed and expierence.. His ball skills are above averege and to be honest, i'm surprised he dosen't get more attention, all though Maryland is having a horrific season..

6. Chandler Harnish QB No. Illinois- Spoken about him before, and hes back in this mock.. I like Chandler becasue of his versatility, with the ability to Run and throw, and he seems to have a bit of that "it" factor, and is worth taking a chance on, in my opinion..

7. Josh Chichester TE Louisville- A nice Sleeper pick, whos more WR then Blocking TE, but when u used to be a WR, that is usually how it works..lol hes got a ton of the physical tools, and room to add weight, and just on upside and potential, is worth a shot.. A intriguing guy....


this is interesting as there are a lot of guys i like around 28. lamaar miller,ta'amu,konz,allen,worthy hmm. yes i know you dont like to pick underclassmen but seeing as you and i arent psychics i dont care about accuracy but this is how id go.

1.Lamaar Miller RB Miami- miller is a great rb and is gaining steam every week it seems. We have to revamp our run game and that starts with the oline. Unfortunately it doesnt seem like our FO like interior linemen in round one. Jacobs has completely fallen off the reservation (oline hugely to blame) and bradshaw feet always seem to have some problem. Miller could be a major offensive weapon for us.(Alt: worthy)

2.Lucas Nix OG Pitt- same as last week. Big body, interior lineman, great potential.

3.Brandon Boykin CB Georgia- not really in giants mold but personally i dont like our mold. I want speed on the edges

4.TY Hilton WR FIU- same as last week. He will move up in the next few months but until then STEAL!

4.Lance Lewis WR ECU- there are alot of factors that will play into this pick. Nicks and cruz are gimmies unless one of them holds out. After that the field gets muddled. jernigan you can probably keep, but what a disappointing rookie year so far. MM will command big bucks, hixon might be done, barden needs to step it up. Lewis is a very good possession receiver and can make the tough catches. reminds me a lot of amani

5.Tyrone Crawford DE Boise ST

6.James Brown OT Troy

7.Moe Petrus C Uconn
The Thing about T.Y Hilton that i think will make us not pick him is we just picked Jerrnigan whos similar in playing style, size, and even outta the same confrence..lol There basically the same player.. So, i'd be surprised if we took another player like that, and i would be surprised if we went WR twice, unless one was just to much value in the end rounds.. I like the value of Tyrone Crawford in RD 5, as a potentially solid rotational DE, all though, he might go earier, but if there in 5, good value..
Petrus and Nix would bring solid size and run blocking to the table, and would help that interior run game... As i told Santa, i'm not huge on Lamar Miller right now, because i feel he trys going around the contact more then through it, and in bad situations, when he should be plowing for the first down, i've seen that style by him cost his team, but the upside is tremendous... Solid, all though i'd do a few things diffrent.. I liked your last mock better...
idk there is just something about ty. i really like this kid but i hear what you are saying. i didnt like taking 2 wr's back to back either but with our situation and the players ranked around the pick it seemed legit. we have a lot of ?'s around wr right now. maybe not at the top end but depth wise. yeah, i think i liked my last one better too lol :P

thegreatone
11-09-2011, 10:38 PM
Okay, so I have a day off today and decided to do a mock offseason for us. Let me know what you think. This includes FA losses, cuts, players resigned and signings:

Resigned - David Carr QB, Stacy Andrews G/T, Terrell Thomas CB, Michael Coe CB, Bear Pascoe FB

Cuts - Brandon Jacobs RB, David Diehl G, D. Hixon WR, Deon Grant S, Derrick Martin S, Henry Hynoski FB, Travis Beckum TE, Clint Sintim LB, D.J. Ware RB

Lose Via FA - Mario Manningham WR, Dave Tollefson DE, Jon Goff LB, Aaron Ross CB, Devin Thomas WR, Kareem McKenzie T

FA signed -
Chilo Rachal G - Physical Guard who can move well and still young
Gary Guyton LB - Excellent MLB prospect stuck behind Spikes and Mayo in NE.
Howard Green DT - Large rotational run stuffer. provides depth if Austin cannot come back
Martellus Bennett TE - Upside TE who could not make it in Dallas. Has a ton of ability. Maybe a change of scenery will help.

Draft - I have us getting an extra 4th rounder due to loss of Barry Cofield

1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - Versatile Tackle who can play both right and left but will play right with us to begin. May slide in day 1 as a starter.
2. Andre Branch - DE Clemson - We love pass rushers and he adds to the stable and replaces the departed Tollefson in the rotation.
3. Nigel Bradham - LB Florida State - Super athletic LB who needs time to learn to use his ability to the max. Can sit a year or two and contribute on specials while learning.
4. Jordan White - WR W. Michigan - I have watched enough of this guy to see he is the real deal. Good size/speed combo with excellent hands and can make people miss. He replaces Mario in the rotation and gives us our future #2 with Cruz in the slot.
4. Jamell Fleming - CB Oklahoma - Good size and speed and a player who has made some strides this year. Could fit in our corner rotation with an eye towards a starting role in the future.
5. Bobby Rainey - RB Western Kentucky - Ultra prodcutive RB with good hands that could be our 3rd down back right away. Short but built well and a good pass protector from what I have seen.
6. George Iloka - S Boise State - Good depth and special teams player from a school that teaches how to play correctly.
7. D'Jon McKnight - WR Minnesota - Another WR to add to the corps. Strong physical WR with decent speed that we can groom to play for a future role.

Depth Chart

QB - Eli, Carr
RB - Bradshaw, Scott, Rainey
FB - Pascoe
WR1 - Nicks, Barden, White
WR2 - Cruz, Jernigan, McKnight
TE - Ballard, Bennett
LT - Beatty, Brewer
LG - Rachal, Petrus
C - Baas, Cordle
RG - Snee, Boothe
RT - Adams, Brewer

DE - JPP, Osi
DT - Canty, Austin
DT - Joseph, Bernard, Green
DE - Tuck, Branch
WLB - Boley, Williams
MLB - Guyton, Herzlich, Jones
SLB - Kiwi, Bradham
CB - Webster, Prince, Coe
SS - Phillips, Iloka
FS - Rolle, Sash, Chad Jones
CB - Thomas, Fleming, B. Johnson
K - Tynes
P - Weatherford
PR - Jernigan
KR - Jernigan, Scott

draft is decent(love..LOVE, branch) i just have to say no way to bennet. he has a poor work ethic and is why he is an underachiever. rest of your fa's i like but i have a bad feeling we wont get TT back.

nycsportzfan
11-10-2011, 06:11 AM
Okay, so I have a day off today and decided to do a mock offseason for us. Let me know what you think. This includes FA losses, cuts, players resigned and signings:

Resigned - David Carr QB, Stacy Andrews G/T, Terrell Thomas CB, Michael Coe CB, Bear Pascoe FB

Cuts - Brandon Jacobs RB, David Diehl G, D. Hixon WR, Deon Grant S, Derrick Martin S, Henry Hynoski FB, Travis Beckum TE, Clint Sintim LB, D.J. Ware RB

Lose Via FA - Mario Manningham WR, Dave Tollefson DE, Jon Goff LB, Aaron Ross CB, Devin Thomas WR, Kareem McKenzie T

FA signed -
Chilo Rachal G - Physical Guard who can move well and still young
Gary Guyton LB - Excellent MLB prospect stuck behind Spikes and Mayo in NE.
Howard Green DT - Large rotational run stuffer. provides depth if Austin cannot come back
Martellus Bennett TE - Upside TE who could not make it in Dallas. Has a ton of ability. Maybe a change of scenery will help.

Draft - I have us getting an extra 4th rounder due to loss of Barry Cofield

1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - Versatile Tackle who can play both right and left but will play right with us to begin. May slide in day 1 as a starter.
2. Andre Branch - DE Clemson - We love pass rushers and he adds to the stable and replaces the departed Tollefson in the rotation.
3. Nigel Bradham - LB Florida State - Super athletic LB who needs time to learn to use his ability to the max. Can sit a year or two and contribute on specials while learning.
4. Jordan White - WR W. Michigan - I have watched enough of this guy to see he is the real deal. Good size/speed combo with excellent hands and can make people miss. He replaces Mario in the rotation and gives us our future #2 with Cruz in the slot.
4. Jamell Fleming - CB Oklahoma - Good size and speed and a player who has made some strides this year. Could fit in our corner rotation with an eye towards a starting role in the future.
5. Bobby Rainey - RB Western Kentucky - Ultra prodcutive RB with good hands that could be our 3rd down back right away. Short but built well and a good pass protector from what I have seen.
6. George Iloka - S Boise State - Good depth and special teams player from a school that teaches how to play correctly.
7. D'Jon McKnight - WR Minnesota - Another WR to add to the corps. Strong physical WR with decent speed that we can groom to play for a future role.

Depth Chart

QB - Eli, Carr
RB - Bradshaw, Scott, Rainey
FB - Pascoe
WR1 - Nicks, Barden, White
WR2 - Cruz, Jernigan, McKnight
TE - Ballard, Bennett
LT - Beatty, Brewer
LG - Rachal, Petrus
C - Baas, Cordle
RG - Snee, Boothe
RT - Adams, Brewer

DE - JPP, Osi
DT - Canty, Austin
DT - Joseph, Bernard, Green
DE - Tuck, Branch
WLB - Boley, Williams
MLB - Guyton, Herzlich, Jones
SLB - Kiwi, Bradham
CB - Webster, Prince, Coe
SS - Phillips, Iloka
FS - Rolle, Sash, Chad Jones
CB - Thomas, Fleming, B. Johnson
K - Tynes
P - Weatherford
PR - Jernigan
KR - Jernigan, Scott
As far as our Cuts, i'm not so sure i'm ready to cut Hynoski yet.. I'd like to see him fully healthy get a chance as that lead FB on a bit more consistent basis, before letting go of him.. Hes got the Potential to really be a Vonta Leach type bulldozer, who can also act as a bit of a safety blanket for ELI on pass receptions as hes got solid hands.. I do love me some Bear though, but we gotta start running up the Middle better...

As for FA's, i'm all set with Guyton, i'd rather re-sign Goff, off his injury, as he was looking poised to just bust out off what seemed like a bit of a breakout season last yr.. Obviously, if a guy like Kuechly falls to us or we fall down some in the draft order, i'd snatch him up quickly, but i'm not as high on Guyton as some, and Greg Jones is still learning, and i think hes got the upside to possibly be pretty good as well..

But anyhow, i'm not gonna comment to much on FA's and what not, because i really haven't totally looked into next yrs crop, thouroughlly, and i am answering kinda not knowing all i should..lol

As for your draft, i think its solid, as greatone said, i also just love ANDRE BRANCH!! I think he sneaks into RD 1 when said and done, as hes got a sensational motor, and a similar pass rush skill set as OSI, except more of a run defender.. Mike Adams isn't a bad idea, but i wonder if we can pass on him in RD 1, and get Matt Reynolds BYU in RD 2? And don't forget about JAMES BREWER, whos got perfect RT size, and great athletic ability, and it was known he was gonna need a yr or 2 before possibly taking the reigns.. Brewer was a guy i wanted in the draft, and stand by that.. Bradham makes sense, and i would certainly not mind adding him at all, and i just watched Jordan White destroy toledo the other night, but it seems there is a MAC WR doing that every day..lol So, i wonder if its the WR's(eric page, nic harwell, jordan white, kamar jordan, lavon brazill..etc), or just terrible defense in the confrence... I am just beggining to think that way, recently, because i'm seeing monsterus WR performances from someone every MAC game i watch, and crazy scores.. But none the less, White does have some intrigue, but i don't know if i'd go that way, unless someone like Jeff Fuller dropped to RD 4 or something, as WR is clearly not a need, and again, i'd rather see Jerrnigan and Barden develop, as i think they've got just as good a shot at being pretty good as a Jordan White does..

Bobby Rainey is a guy i just put down on the Sleeper thread, and would not mind taking a shot on in the late rounds, and the same can be said for Iloka... Overall, its a solid draft, all though i have a couple questions...

tdawg1413
11-10-2011, 08:19 AM
The thing about Guyton is he has a bit more speed than Goff and with Goff coming off an ACL, I am wondering if he will be able to get back to form. I liked Brewer as well but I have yet to hear a thing about him so that made me select Adams, who is also a great fit for RT. As for White, I watched that game vs. Toledo the other night as well and yes there was some bad defense but he catches well with his hands, is willing to go over the middle and runs good routes. Couple that with good athletic ability and I think he has a shot.

Either way, it's going to be an interesting offseason.

Redeyejedi
11-10-2011, 09:26 AM
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thegreatone
11-10-2011, 09:41 AM
Okay, so I have a day off today and decided to do a mock offseason for us. Let me know what you think. This includes FA losses, cuts, players resigned and signings:

Resigned - David Carr QB, Stacy Andrews G/T, Terrell Thomas CB, Michael Coe CB, Bear Pascoe FB

Cuts - Brandon Jacobs RB, David Diehl G, D. Hixon WR, Deon Grant S, Derrick Martin S, Henry Hynoski FB, Travis Beckum TE, Clint Sintim LB, D.J. Ware RB

Lose Via FA - Mario Manningham WR, Dave Tollefson DE, Jon Goff LB, Aaron Ross CB, Devin Thomas WR, Kareem McKenzie T

FA signed -
Chilo Rachal G - Physical Guard who can move well and still young
Gary Guyton LB - Excellent MLB prospect stuck behind Spikes and Mayo in NE.
Howard Green DT - Large rotational run stuffer. provides depth if Austin cannot come back
Martellus Bennett TE - Upside TE who could not make it in Dallas. Has a ton of ability. Maybe a change of scenery will help.

Draft - I have us getting an extra 4th rounder due to loss of Barry Cofield

1. Mike Adams - T Ohio State - Versatile Tackle who can play both right and left but will play right with us to begin. May slide in day 1 as a starter.
2. Andre Branch - DE Clemson - We love pass rushers and he adds to the stable and replaces the departed Tollefson in the rotation.
3. Nigel Bradham - LB Florida State - Super athletic LB who needs time to learn to use his ability to the max. Can sit a year or two and contribute on specials while learning.
4. Jordan White - WR W. Michigan - I have watched enough of this guy to see he is the real deal. Good size/speed combo with excellent hands and can make people miss. He replaces Mario in the rotation and gives us our future #2 with Cruz in the slot.
4. Jamell Fleming - CB Oklahoma - Good size and speed and a player who has made some strides this year. Could fit in our corner rotation with an eye towards a starting role in the future.
5. Bobby Rainey - RB Western Kentucky - Ultra prodcutive RB with good hands that could be our 3rd down back right away. Short but built well and a good pass protector from what I have seen.
6. George Iloka - S Boise State - Good depth and special teams player from a school that teaches how to play correctly.
7. D'Jon McKnight - WR Minnesota - Another WR to add to the corps. Strong physical WR with decent speed that we can groom to play for a future role.

Depth Chart

QB - Eli, Carr
RB - Bradshaw, Scott, Rainey
FB - Pascoe
WR1 - Nicks, Barden, White
WR2 - Cruz, Jernigan, McKnight
TE - Ballard, Bennett
LT - Beatty, Brewer
LG - Rachal, Petrus
C - Baas, Cordle
RG - Snee, Boothe
RT - Adams, Brewer

DE - JPP, Osi
DT - Canty, Austin
DT - Joseph, Bernard, Green
DE - Tuck, Branch
WLB - Boley, Williams
MLB - Guyton, Herzlich, Jones
SLB - Kiwi, Bradham
CB - Webster, Prince, Coe
SS - Phillips, Iloka
FS - Rolle, Sash, Chad Jones
CB - Thomas, Fleming, B. Johnson
K - Tynes
P - Weatherford
PR - Jernigan
KR - Jernigan, Scott
As far as our Cuts, i'm not so sure i'm ready to cut Hynoski yet.. I'd like to see him fully healthy get a chance as that lead FB on a bit more consistent basis, before letting go of him.. Hes got the Potential to really be a Vonta Leach type bulldozer, who can also act as a bit of a safety blanket for ELI on pass receptions as hes got solid hands.. I do love me some Bear though, but we gotta start running up the Middle better...

As for FA's, i'm all set with Guyton, i'd rather re-sign Goff, off his injury, as he was looking poised to just bust out off what seemed like a bit of a breakout season last yr.. Obviously, if a guy like Kuechly falls to us or we fall down some in the draft order, i'd snatch him up quickly, but i'm not as high on Guyton as some, and Greg Jones is still learning, and i think hes got the upside to possibly be pretty good as well..

But anyhow, i'm not gonna comment to much on FA's and what not, because i really haven't totally looked into next yrs crop, thouroughlly, and i am answering kinda not knowing all i should..lol

As for your draft, i think its solid, as greatone said, i also just love ANDRE BRANCH!! <font size="5">I think he sneaks into RD 1 when said and done</font>, as hes got a sensational motor, and a similar pass rush skill set as OSI, except more of a run defender.. Mike Adams isn't a bad idea, but i wonder if we can pass on him in RD 1, and get Matt Reynolds BYU in RD 2? And don't forget about JAMES BREWER, whos got perfect RT size, and great athletic ability, and it was known he was gonna need a yr or 2 before possibly taking the reigns.. Brewer was a guy i wanted in the draft, and stand by that.. Bradham makes sense, and i would certainly not mind adding him at all, and i just watched Jordan White destroy toledo the other night, but it seems there is a MAC WR doing that every day..lol So, i wonder if its the WR's(eric page, nic harwell, jordan white, kamar jordan, lavon brazill..etc), or just terrible defense in the confrence... I am just beggining to think that way, recently, because i'm seeing monsterus WR performances from someone every MAC game i watch, and crazy scores.. But none the less, White does have some intrigue, but i don't know if i'd go that way, unless someone like Jeff Fuller dropped to RD 4 or something, as WR is clearly not a need, and again, i'd rather see Jerrnigan and Barden develop, as i think they've got just as good a shot at being pretty good as a Jordan White does..

Bobby Rainey is a guy i just put down on the Sleeper thread, and would not mind taking a shot on in the late rounds, and the same can be said for Iloka... Overall, its a solid draft, all though i have a couple questions...


yeah i was thinking the same thing about branch as well, Dude is a beast. also im not too high on a OT early as beatty has been quietly very good this year (need to develop more push in run game but so does everyone else on our line) and we took breweer who you and i both liked last year as the heir at RT. HOWEVER if they think one of those great ot's can slide inside(like koets did) and contribute early im all for it.

thegreatone
11-10-2011, 09:43 AM
Ray Ray Armstrong "Miami"will most likely be found ineligible and has been suspendedafter tweeting that he went out to dinner with a PR Firm.</p>


Face to Palm "Shakes Head" How can<font size="6">U</font> be this stupid</p>
omfg what a dumb ***. he just cost himself millions

thegreatone
11-10-2011, 09:47 AM
The thing about Guyton is he has a bit more speed than Goff and with Goff coming off an ACL, I am wondering if he will be able to get back to form. I liked Brewer as well but I have yet to hear a thing about him so that made me select Adams, who is also a great fit for RT. As for White, I watched that game vs. Toledo the other night as well and yes there was some bad defense but he catches well with his hands, is willing to go over the middle and runs good routes. Couple that with good athletic ability and I think he has a shot.

Either way, it's going to be an interesting offseason.Dont forget we never heard anything good about koets. Actually we heard a lot of bad things when it was about him at center but when he finally got in he was very good, albeit for a short while till he got injured. We have a great oline coach so i have all the confidence in brewers development. we just arent set at lg or center so if they think an ot can slide inside then ok but im tired of waiting for those kinds of players to develop and want a true center and guard. Having just typed that i completely forgot about petrus lol.

Redeyejedi
11-10-2011, 09:55 AM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
</P>


Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</P>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</P> ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?
Not a great year for defenders either.Lack of Pass Rushers in this draft as well. The LB prospects have played very poorly. Burfict has been awful Im not sure he will even declare. Teo has not impressed me either, Very Poor Technique. Kuechly has made a lot of tackles but his team is horrible.So many tackles are made after the guy gains 7 yards.

nycsportzfan
11-10-2011, 05:55 PM
Ray Ray Armstrong "Miami"will most likely be found ineligible and has been suspendedafter tweeting that he went out to dinner with a PR Firm.</p>


Face to Palm "Shakes Head" How can<font size="6">U</font> be this stupid</p>
omfg what a dumb ***. he just cost himself millions
WOW!

nycsportzfan
11-10-2011, 06:06 PM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
</p>


Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</p>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</p> ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?
Not a great year for defenders either.Lack of Pass Rushers in this draft as well. The LB prospects have played very poorly. Burfict has been awful Im not sure he will even declare. Teo has not impressed me either, Very Poor Technique. Kuechly has made a lot of tackles but his team is horrible.So many tackles are made after the guy gains 7 yards. I love Kuechly.. U can't fault a guy for being on a horrible team, and still putting up numbers, regardless of where hes making some of his tackles, at least hes stopping dudes before they score.. It reminds me of when Goff first got playing time for us, and it was on that Dreadful Giant Defense, and people were all over him, like he was supposed to be playing well when the entire defense was playing putrid..lol Of course i could see the signs, as he made some plays and what not, but i wasen't expecting a MLB to be this massive playmaker when the entire secondary stunk, the dline wasent doing squat, nor the other lb's.. Its impressive that kuechly is even doing what hes done to be honest on such a crumby team.. I would love to get him on our team...

BlueSanta
11-10-2011, 08:49 PM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
</p>


Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</p>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</p> ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?
Not a great year for defenders either.Lack of Pass Rushers in this draft as well. The LB prospects have played very poorly. Burfict has been awful Im not sure he will even declare. Teo has not impressed me either, Very Poor Technique. Kuechly has made a lot of tackles but his team is horrible.So many tackles are made after the guy gains 7 yards. I love Kuechly.. U can't fault a guy for being on a horrible team, and still putting up numbers, regardless of where hes making some of his tackles, at least hes stopping dudes before they score.. It reminds me of when Goff first got playing time for us, and it was on that Dreadful Giant Defense, and people were all over him, like he was supposed to be playing well when the entire defense was playing putrid..lol Of course i could see the signs, as he made some plays and what not, but i wasen't expecting a MLB to be this massive playmaker when the entire secondary stunk, the dline wasent doing squat, nor the other lb's.. Its impressive that kuechly is even doing what hes done to be honest on such a crumby team.. I would love to get him on our team...


Based on film and having seen him pay a few times, he is 1 of my favorite players coming out this year.

slipknottin
11-10-2011, 09:49 PM
Ray Ray Armstrong "Miami"will most likely be found ineligible and has been suspendedafter tweeting that he went out to dinner with a PR Firm.</p>


Face to Palm "Shakes Head" How can<font size="6">U</font> be this stupid</p>

If this causes him to drop to say, the third round, I wouldnt mind drafting him at all.

titwio
11-10-2011, 10:05 PM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.

nycsportzfan
11-11-2011, 06:09 AM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
</p>


Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</p>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</p> ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?
Not a great year for defenders either.Lack of Pass Rushers in this draft as well. The LB prospects have played very poorly. Burfict has been awful Im not sure he will even declare. Teo has not impressed me either, Very Poor Technique. Kuechly has made a lot of tackles but his team is horrible.So many tackles are made after the guy gains 7 yards. I love Kuechly.. U can't fault a guy for being on a horrible team, and still putting up numbers, regardless of where hes making some of his tackles, at least hes stopping dudes before they score.. It reminds me of when Goff first got playing time for us, and it was on that Dreadful Giant Defense, and people were all over him, like he was supposed to be playing well when the entire defense was playing putrid..lol Of course i could see the signs, as he made some plays and what not, but i wasen't expecting a MLB to be this massive playmaker when the entire secondary stunk, the dline wasent doing squat, nor the other lb's.. Its impressive that kuechly is even doing what hes done to be honest on such a crumby team.. I would love to get him on our team...


Based on film and having seen him pay a few times, he is 1 of my favorite players coming out this year.
Ya, i think hes my number 1target for the 1st round as well.. He just has a GIANT feel to him, all though if we keep playing well(i hope so!), then i think we get no shot at kuechly.. I wonder if Te'o would be better suited as a 4/3 SLB? If so, we could possilby trade OSI while his stock is soaring, and move Kiwi back to end, and have a rotation of JPP/KIWI/TUCK, and Te'o could slide into SLB with hopefully GOFF or GREG JONES taking over the middle with BOLEY holding down the WLB for another yr untill J.WILLIAMS is fully ready.. Its just a thought, as i heard somewhere about Te'o and possibly being a SLB as a pro.. Can't remember where i read it though?

Redeyejedi
11-11-2011, 09:58 AM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
</P>


Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</P>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</P>


ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?
Not a great year for defenders either.Lack of Pass Rushers in this draft as well. The LB prospects have played very poorly. Burfict has been awful Im not sure he will even declare. Teo has not impressed me either, Very Poor Technique. Kuechly has made a lot of tackles but his team is horrible.So many tackles are made after the guy gains 7 yards. I love Kuechly.. U can't fault a guy for being on a horrible team, and still putting up numbers, regardless of where hes making some of his tackles, at least hes stopping dudes before they score.. It reminds me of when Goff first got playing time for us, and it was on that Dreadful Giant Defense, and people were all over him, like he was supposed to be playing well when the entire defense was playing putrid..lol Of course i could see the signs, as he made some plays and what not, but i wasen't expecting a MLB to be this massive playmaker when the entire secondary stunk, the dline wasent doing squat, nor the other lb's.. Its impressive that kuechly is even doing what hes done to be honest on such a crumby team.. I would love to get him on our team...
Why I do like Kuechly tackles are an overrated stat. Matt Miller put this stat on Bleacher report this morning.</P>


<STRONG aptureProxy="18">Tim McGarigle[/b], Northwestern (2002-05): 545
Rod Davis, Southern Miss (2000-03): 526
Justin Beriault, Ball State (2001-04): 508
Ryan Fowler, Duke: (2000-03): 495
Grant Wiley, West Virginia (2000-03): 492
Matt Pusateri, Miami (Ohio) (2001-04): 485
Dexter Reid, North Carolina (2000-03): 466
Derrick Johnson, Texas (2001-04): 458
Abdul Hodge, Iowa (2002-05): 453
John Leake, Clemson (2000-03): 443</P>


Those are the Top 10 NCAA Tacklers of all time. The only guy up there I recognize is Derrick Johnson.Johnson is a guy I love as a Football player but Johnson also comes with a better all around game then Kuechly.Im not saying Kuec isnt a great player but I dont think he is in the elite category</P>

lawl
11-11-2011, 12:14 PM
Ray ray's so dumb but is such a freak.

Won state title playing QB. Threw the gw pass to Andre dubose with like 30s left.

nycsportzfan
11-11-2011, 05:07 PM
I'm confused about a few players, mainly a couple actually.. What is the deal with Brandon Thompson DT Clemson and Billy Winn DT Boise st? I constantly see them mocked in RD 1, with Thompson sometimes in the TOP 10, and yet they barley make any impact plays at all, and i realize that they could be plugging holes, but it don't seem like there really tearing up the tackle numbers either.. I admit, to not paying much mind to these paticular players, so i could be in LF on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me to the hype on these 2?
</p>


Winn is a guy I think people like more because of potiental and versatility. He plays all over the line and has good length to his frame.Im personally not a big fan but I admit im not as versed on him as some of the other guys.</p>


Brandon Thompson I am more familiar with. He looked real good down the stretch of 2010 and I thought he was in for a huge year but it hasnt really worked out that way.I think what bothers U is the lack of penetration and play making and i cant really argue with U there.Thompson probably is a 1 Tech in the NFL. He does a good job of couping blockers and freeing other players to make plays. He has talent but it often doesn't translate to him finishing the play himself. He does do a good job of pushing the pocket but I could see why that might be enough to warrant a very high draft grade</p>


ya, i figured Thompson was a free up defender DT, by his lack of big plays.. Its not a great yr for DT's as far as early on... So i guess people will reach a bit for any upside... Winn is versatile, but hes gotta start making plays or he might lose some luster to some nfl teams... I wonder if Thompson will go before Worthy?
Not a great year for defenders either.Lack of Pass Rushers in this draft as well. The LB prospects have played very poorly. Burfict has been awful Im not sure he will even declare. Teo has not impressed me either, Very Poor Technique. Kuechly has made a lot of tackles but his team is horrible.So many tackles are made after the guy gains 7 yards. I love Kuechly.. U can't fault a guy for being on a horrible team, and still putting up numbers, regardless of where hes making some of his tackles, at least hes stopping dudes before they score.. It reminds me of when Goff first got playing time for us, and it was on that Dreadful Giant Defense, and people were all over him, like he was supposed to be playing well when the entire defense was playing putrid..lol Of course i could see the signs, as he made some plays and what not, but i wasen't expecting a MLB to be this massive playmaker when the entire secondary stunk, the dline wasent doing squat, nor the other lb's.. Its impressive that kuechly is even doing what hes done to be honest on such a crumby team.. I would love to get him on our team...
Why I do like Kuechly tackles are an overrated stat. Matt Miller put this stat on Bleacher report this morning.</p>


<strong aptureproxy="18">Tim McGarigle[/b], Northwestern (2002-05): 545
Rod Davis, Southern Miss (2000-03): 526
Justin Beriault, Ball State (2001-04): 508
Ryan Fowler, Duke: (2000-03): 495
Grant Wiley, West Virginia (2000-03): 492
Matt Pusateri, Miami (Ohio) (2001-04): 485
Dexter Reid, North Carolina (2000-03): 466
Derrick Johnson, Texas (2001-04): 458
Abdul Hodge, Iowa (2002-05): 453
John Leake, Clemson (2000-03): 443</p>


Those are the Top 10 NCAA Tacklers of all time. The only guy up there I recognize is Derrick Johnson.Johnson is a guy I love as a Football player but Johnson also comes with a better all around game then Kuechly.Im not saying Kuec isnt a great player but I dont think he is in the elite category</p> Ya, i could find stats like that on Receptions, sacks, rushing yards, td passes, and pretty much any stat you could think of, with players that did nothing... Kuechly is a top nothch motor on a horrible team, who still gets it done... Hes gotta be one of the best LB prospects i've seen in quite a long time...

thegreatone
11-12-2011, 08:49 AM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.I really like Ellington too but a couple things to consider:
1. Not in the giants to rake the small backs
2. If he us projected later round you might se him return for his senior year

thegreatone
11-12-2011, 08:52 AM
Ray Ray Armstrong "Miami"*will most likely be found ineligible and has been suspended*after tweeting that he went out to dinner with a PR Firm.</p>


Face to Palm "Shakes Head"* How can*<font size="6">U</font> be this stupid</p>

If this causes him to drop to say, the third round, I wouldnt mind drafting him at all.
Seriously doubt it. He is too talented but I'd be for it if he did

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 01:30 PM
Watching Taj Boyd today, and i gotta say, in the first half, he looks downright dreadful.. Hes all ready thrown a pick, and should of thrown about 4 or 5... He did have a drop or 2 on him, but hes thrown better to W.Forest then his own guys, and thats the plain truth... Also, how does Nc State shut out NC last wk, and then show no defense against BC???lol College football is wierd...

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 01:32 PM
Just watched Audie Cole get smoked on a TD pass... He pretty much had no chance, and wasen't even a factor...

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 01:36 PM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.I really like Ellington too but a couple things to consider:
1. Not in the giants to rake the small backs
2. If he us projected later round you might se him return for his senior year Ellington's been pretty invisible outside of games against dreadful oppents like Wofford, Maryland and BC...

BlueSanta
11-12-2011, 01:58 PM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.I really like Ellington too but a couple things to consider:
1. Not in the giants to rake the small backs
2. If he us projected later round you might se him return for his senior year Ellington's been pretty invisible outside of games against dreadful oppents like Wofford, Maryland and BC...


I am not high on him either. Sure, he is fast and agile, but he runs laterally too much and he has zero ability to break tackles.

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 02:20 PM
Watching Taj Boyd today, and i gotta say, in the first half, he looks downright dreadful.. Hes all ready thrown a pick, and should of thrown about 4 or 5... He did have a drop or 2 on him, but hes thrown better to W.Forest then his own guys, and thats the plain truth... Also, how does Nc State shut out NC last wk, and then show no defense against BC???lol College football is wierd...
Taj Boyd is making a fool of himself...lol Hes litteraly looking like a kid making his first start of his career.. Probably the worst game i've seen from a QB this yr, or close to it... How hes only got 2ints is absoulutley amazing! He should have 7!

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 03:41 PM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.I really like Ellington too but a couple things to consider:
1. Not in the giants to rake the small backs
2. If he us projected later round you might se him return for his senior year Ellington's been pretty invisible outside of games against dreadful oppents like Wofford, Maryland and BC...


I am not high on him either. Sure, he is fast and agile, but he runs laterally too much and he has zero ability to break tackles.
agreed.. A back that don't blow u away with measurables, who dosen't stand out to much against anyone decent... Sure, if your grabbing em in the 6th-7th round or as a UDF, fine, but other then that, i'm good..lol

nycsportzfan
11-12-2011, 03:47 PM
Kellen freaking Moore is so much fun to watch! He has rifled in some passes, and then just lofts a a TD to one of his WR's, with beuatiful touch, adn the WR made a sick one handed catch!

titwio
11-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Right now the more I watch Andre Ellington (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/381445/andre-ellington) of Clemson the more I want to see him Blue. 5'10 190 with excellent speed and big play potential...

2012 is a deep RB class and with the concerns over Jacobs remaining in NY and Bradshaw injuries....I could see the Giants making this move. I actually like him better than Lamar Miller and he could be had later too.I really like Ellington too but a couple things to consider:
1. Not in the giants to rake the small backs
2. If he us projected later round you might se him return for his senior year

I see him going anywhere from the 3rd to 5th...Right now I'm observing him in terms of a prospect who I see having good measurables at the next level. I can see him being more around 200+ when combine time rolls around and teams putting him into that second tier of RB's moving up the boards...

From what I've seen he can and does run between the guards and tackles and not just limited to running laterally...There were a lot of guys on this board high on a guy like Taiwan Jones last year who was looked at in similar ways but I don't put Ellington in that same range with a guy like Jones...I think he has more potential to be an early down guy.

I can see him at the pro level having good size at 5'10 205 with good speed and good hands out of the backfield and helps on the return game/ST's....Much rather go after a guy like him in the later rounds than spending a higher pick on a guy like Lamar Miller to be honest.