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Redeyejedi
04-25-2010, 10:38 AM
Since the Giants didnt get the LB that everyone coveted I thought I would take a look at a few players that could help the Giants in 2011 headed by a trio of NC linebackers. Anyone who watches CFB and likes defense I would suggest watching UNC play this year. Butch Davis has built one hell of a team who I believe is a sleeper Top 10 team. I see a possible 6 or even maybe 7 guys who could go in the top 2 rounds. Anyone who wants to add feel free</P>


This a video of the whole loaded Carolina front 7</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjDbP4qtAKc</P>


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http://www.walterfootball.com/college/NorthCarolina_logo.gif*Quan Sturdivant 6-2 235 WLB/MLB- Sturdivant was my favorite LB prospect coming into the 2010 draft and I was upset when he returned to school. Sturdivant has great strength and speed like all the NC linebackers who all post 40's under 4.5. Quan has been the most productive of the linebackers and Im expecting big things from him again this year</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz5ArUZAjjQ** not all of Quan but makes a few plays</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/NorthCarolina_logo.gif*Bruce Carter 6-3 230 LB- Carter is a former safety who is*a little lanky but has the frame to be an absolute monster. He probably could get up 2 and play at about 245. Carter is extremely athletic setting the UNC vert record at 40 1/2" and posting a 4.45 40. I think he can be looked at for all 3 4-3 Linebacker spots. I like Carter and Im interested to watch him this year. He has the best frame and speed combo of all the linebackers.*I like Carters game and think he could play the middle if he can add bulk to his excellent frame skys the limit**</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdwiwCVK2AE</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPeEI-BEXCY</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/NorthCarolina_logo.gif*Zach Brown 6-2 220 WLB- Brown hasnt played much but he is one of those guys that I could see coming from nowhere and become a first round pick. Brown timed out twice a 4.28 40 on 4 of 5 stop watches at the spring practices. He obviously needs to gain more weight but the tools are certainly there. Brown was a highly sought after recruit that should play a bigger role this year</P>


I will be adding more but my computer shut off and I lost my post and I had to write again </P>

thegreatone
04-25-2010, 11:24 AM
agreed. i live in NC (near ECU) so i get to watch UNC play just about every sat and sturdivant/carter are 2 lb'rs i will be keeping a very close eye on. Also agree Davis has this team on the cusp of being a major contender.

tonyt830
04-25-2010, 11:34 AM
If Goff, GWilk and Dillard don't work out this year, then I would be all for Quan Strudivant. Who knows where he will be ranked come draft time next year. But if we may have to trade up and get him if we have a late 1st rd pick. I shouldnt get too ahead of myself assuming we will be picking late in the 1st--LOL!!!</P>


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I have not looked at what other prospects will be available next spring. Of course there is the Locker and Mallet talk at QB. I would like to see what o-line and TE's will be available next draft. I like our selection of Petrus, but hope we can find our future at C or RT next year. Who knows Cordle may work out. After all O'Hara was undrafted.</P>

Redeyejedi
04-25-2010, 11:51 AM
Ohara is getting a little long in the tooth and although he has been exceptional the last 3 years he could turn downhill at any point</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/PennState_logo.gifStefan Wisniewski 6-3 300 C/G- Some have him listed as a latefirst rounder which I guess is possible but I think he is more of a mid to late2nd round prospect at center. Wisniwski started 12 games at center in 2009 but will be back at guard for 2010. (2)</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/USC_logo.gifKristofer O'Dowd 6-5 300 C- He is the best center in the class no doubt and has the frame to bulk up a little more. I doubt the Giants would get the chance or even want to pick O'Dowdat 32 unless Oharas play falls of a cliff but somebody will get a good center prospect. The only problem I have with O'Dowd is that he is injury prone.The guy is tough and Carrol needed to remove himfrom the field because O'Dowd wanted to continue to play hurt (1-2)</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Florida_logo.gifMike Pouncey 6-5 320 C/G- A lot of you liked his brother Maurkice and wanted the Giants to select him in the first round.While I liked Pouncey as the best interior lineman I wasnt crazy about a first round pick being used on him. Mike is a massive center but Im not quite sure if its best postion.He may be a better fit at guard but mentioned him because of the love his brother got on this board (2)</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/TCU_logo.gifJake Kirkpatrick 6-3 305 C/G- I was only going to mention the consensustop guys at the position for now but I really like Jake so I thought I would put his name on here. Jake is a freak athlete for a center who doesnt have that much experience playing football "Which should fit with Reese did in this draft LOL". Jake is the leader of an offensive line that was top 5 in rushing and 7th in sacks allowed. Most people have Jake as a 5th rounder. This is a pretty good class at center so that is possible but I think he will be a guy that creeps towards the top of the center rankings by draft time next year</P>


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Spizi
04-25-2010, 12:02 PM
Greg Jones- MLB, Michigan State
6'1" 237 lbs.

Career Stats
358 Tackles 15 Sacks
No Turnovers?

Redeyejedi
04-25-2010, 12:35 PM
Greg Jones- MLB, Michigan State 6'1" 237 lbs. Career Stats 358 Tackles 15 Sacks No Turnovers?</P>


I was going to mention Jones later but there is no way he weighs 237 .He weighs less then Sturdivant and Carter and they hover around 230. Jones I would say is 225 max. I think Jones may wind up at WLB in the NFL. Sturdivant might as well http://media.mlive.com/spartans_impact/photo/greg-jones-8b21de3acb22fa3b.jpg
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slipknottin
04-25-2010, 12:36 PM
If there is a draft where the giants take a LB in the 1st, its next years draft.

I absolutely love that LB draft class.

Bignicks
04-25-2010, 12:41 PM
Mark Herzlich Boston College, if he comes back this year healthy the giants have to take him.

slipknottin
04-25-2010, 12:44 PM
Mark Herzlich Boston College, if he comes back this year healthy the giants have to take him.

Yea, hes another one who is going to be a 1st round rated guy.

Tons of ILB talent in that draft class, Ive never seen anything like it.

Spizi
04-25-2010, 12:50 PM
Greg Jones- MLB, Michigan State 6'1" 237 lbs. Career Stats 358 Tackles 15 Sacks No Turnovers?</P>


I was going to mention Jones later but there is no way he weighs 237 .He weighs less then Sturdivant and Carter and they hover around 230. Jones I would say is 225 max. I think Jones may wind up at WLB in the NFL. Sturdivant might as well http://media.mlive.com/spartans_impact/photo/greg-jones-8b21de3acb22fa3b.jpg
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He played at 222lbs. last year, but in a recent interview this month he said he put on 15 lbs. and he is up to 237.

Redeyejedi
04-25-2010, 01:15 PM
http://www.walterfootball.com/college/MichiganState_logo.gifGreg Jones 6-1 224 MLB/WLB Jones has been the most productive of all these guys by far but he doesnt have the frameor speedthat that the UNC LB's have. I do have to admit his production was SUH like this year 154 tackles 9 sacks 14.0 TFL 8 QB hurries. I think he projects as a WLB but who knows he could still grow into his body. He isalright in man and zone coverage and has competitive speed but is not fast.He could of came out this year but I think he was smart to comeback he needs the added bulk. People might not agree with me because his numbers are so good but I dont think he is as good as the numbers wouldlead U to believe.While he is alright in coverage State doesnt use him in that role as he blitzes the QB on passing downs

TUCK&OSI4MVP
04-25-2010, 01:46 PM
Im just gunna throw this out there, but if we do in fact need a Safety, Junior Rahim Moore- UCLA. If he comes out as a Junior, As a sophmore he had 11 INT. Incredible in coverage.

dkyc205
04-25-2010, 02:20 PM
Just a thought of the Giants drafting a linebacker from North Carolina gives me a goosebump. Asides from line backer, I would love if Giants concentrate on O-Line and a speedy rb and a speedy receiver in next year's draft. We still don't have a home run threat on our offense.

papito
04-25-2010, 05:34 PM
Is Nigel Bradham of FSU going to come out next year? He's a great LB for the Noles, was also 5 star recruit.

Redeyejedi
04-26-2010, 10:26 AM
The Giants struggled running the ball in 2009 and were reportedly high on CJ Spiller. I am a big advocate of the Giants getting an elite pass catching back if he brings home run speed even better. Depending on what happens with Jacobs and Bradshaw will determine how high the Giants take a guy. If Brown or Ware doesnt emerge as a legitimate receiver the Giants could still take a guy that could catch the ball. I dont think the Giants will spend a first rounder so I will exclude the likes of Mark Ingram but if somebody wants 2 add him feel free. These guys are just some early favorites and guys I will be watching for early in the year</P>


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http://walterfootball.com/college/Oklahoma_logo.gifDemarco Murray 6-1 215 - I was high on Murray coming into the 2010 draft and he decided to return to school. Murray has been banged up and was projected as a 4th rounder so he wisely returned. Murray has a similar running style and build to that of Adrian Peterson and like Peterson has shown the tendency to get nicked up. Murray has a knack at getting open and finding space in the passing game and had 41 receptions in 2009. Some people have Murray projected as a first rounder but I dont believe he will go that high. His history of being nicked up makes him 2-3 round prospect. (2-3)</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgrU7mTBeM</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtmtSS0vD34&amp;feature=related</P>


http://walterfootball.com/college/WestVirginia_logo.gifNoel Devine 5-8 175-I was shocked when Devine decided to return to school at first but seeing how Spiller was a projected 2nd rounder in 2008 returned and went in the top 10 im thinking Devine may be banking on the same thing. I dont think Devine will go in the top 10 but its quite possible he could go in the range that Chris Johnson did. With Mcclustergoing at 36Devine will mostly go at the end of round 1. So if the Giants return to the playoffs he may be right in there draft range. Ilike Devine and think his break away speedand play making abilitywould make a huge impact on the Giants offense.Like McclusterDevine has proven to be durable and productive. Devine has had over 200 carries the last 2 years and managed a YPC over 6.0. The only difference is Devine comes with the elite speed Mccluster doesnt. (1-2)</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9MuxAszEM</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OtxamhvOGE&amp;feature=related</P>


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http://walterfootball.com/college/OregonState_logo.gifJacquizRodgers 5-7 191- Every year theres specific players I try to watch when I dont know a lot about them Rodgers will be one of them this year. Rodgers had an other worldly 78 receptions in 2009 to go along with his 273 carries. For a college player that is carrying the load on a whole other scale .Rodgers carry totals make me think he will be coming out in the 2011 draft that is just a lot of miles on his legs before he goes to the NFL. Rodgersdoesnt appear to have elite speed for that size so I will be looking to see just how shifty he is season but I am certainly intrigued by his pass catching (2-3)</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5XwHwe0QNI</P>


http://walterfootball.com/college/OhioState_logo.gifBrandon Saine 6-1 217- Mildly productive in his first year without Wells around. Saine possess a nice Speed size combo and good skill set. I have a feeling Saine is going to be a better pro then he was in college. Splitting the carries with Herron will limit his productivity but someone will end up getting a good player at a discounted price. (4)</P>


http://walterfootball.com/college/TexasTech_logo.gifBarron Batch 5-11 205- Batch caught my eye in the Alamo bowl last year as he racked up 185 yards from scrimmage. Batch has good speed and has proven to be a good receiver in TT's screwed up offense. (5)</P>

Spizi
04-26-2010, 10:44 AM
I want Noel Devine. I've been following him since highschool, and he is unbelievable. He averaged 18.5 carries a game last year, so you he can take a pounding. Look for him to have another insane year and add to his already ridiculous production.

IBleedBlue78
04-26-2010, 11:02 AM
Isn't it a LITTLE too early for this??????????

Who knows how our new picks will fare this year?

Redeyejedi
04-26-2010, 01:56 PM
Isn't it a LITTLE too early for this?????????? Who knows how our new picks will fare this year?</P>


In case U didnt notice Ive been touching on the spots we didnt address. Im projecting are needs for 2011 LB/C/RB and next CB and RT. If your not interested U dont have to contribute. I follow CFB and its players so Im informed when the draft rolls around. Im sharing with others, players that I will be watching this coming season and askingposters to do the same.Unlike most I watch the games and have my own opinions that arenot formed by reading Draftdog 2 months before the draft</P>

KennyPhilips1
04-26-2010, 02:02 PM
Isn't it a LITTLE too early for this?????????? Who knows how our new picks will fare this year?</P>


In case U didnt notice Ive been touching on the spots we didnt address. Im projecting are needs for 2011** LB/C/RB* and next CB and RT. If your not interested U dont have to contribute. I follow CFB and its players so Im informed when the draft rolls around. Im sharing with others, players that I will be watching this coming season and asking*posters to do the same.*Unlike most I watch the games and have my own opinions that are*not formed by reading Draftdog 2 months before the draft*</P>

i think we go O-line in next years draft, everyone on our line is over thirty or close to it exception being snee

nycsportzfan
04-26-2010, 02:12 PM
Ohara is getting a little long in the tooth and although he has been exceptional the last 3 years he could turn downhill at any point</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/PennState_logo.gifStefan Wisniewski 6-3 300 C/G- Some have him listed as a latefirst rounder which I guess is possible but I think he is more of a mid to late2nd round prospect at center. Wisniwski started 12 games at center in 2009 but will be back at guard for 2010. (2)</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/USC_logo.gifKristofer O'Dowd 6-5 300 C- He is the best center in the class no doubt and has the frame to bulk up a little more. I doubt the Giants would get the chance or even want to pick O'Dowdat 32 unless Oharas play falls of a cliff but somebody will get a good center prospect. The only problem I have with O'Dowd is that he is injury prone.The guy is tough and Carrol needed to remove himfrom the field because O'Dowd wanted to continue to play hurt (1-2)</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Florida_logo.gifMike Pouncey 6-5 320 C/G- A lot of you liked his brother Maurkice and wanted the Giants to select him in the first round.While I liked Pouncey as the best interior lineman I wasnt crazy about a first round pick being used on him. Mike is a massive center but Im not quite sure if its best postion.He may be a better fit at guard but mentioned him because of the love his brother got on this board (2)</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/TCU_logo.gifJake Kirkpatrick 6-3 305 C/G- I was only going to mention the consensustop guys at the position for now but I really like Jake so I thought I would put his name on here. Jake is a freak athlete for a center who doesnt have that much experience playing football "Which should fit with Reese did in this draft LOL". Jake is the leader of an offensive line that was top 5 in rushing and 7th in sacks allowed. Most people have Jake as a 5th rounder. This is a pretty good class at center so that is possible but I think he will be a guy that creeps towards the top of the center rankings by draft time next year</p>


</p> I was gonna put up Pouncey and O'Dowd, u obviously already got there.. I will add a Center who i think will move up alot during the Season..

Dan Wegner C Notre Dame- A very gritty, hardnosed competitor, who was highly recrutied coming out of highschool.... I think hes gonna move up teams boards bigtime this yr...

Obi Ezeh ILB Michigan- Heres a ILB to watch out for this yr.. This guys is poised to breakout in a big way, watch him climb ladders this season! He'd of been a early 3rd rd pick this yr, if he came out.. This guy is a sure tackler, that can explode downhill, and isn't really a liability in coverege.

lawl
04-26-2010, 02:25 PM
Really think corner is going to be at the top of the list next year. Web getting older, TT the only young stud, Ross who knows, Bruce Johnson who knows. That's alot of question at cb

heavyhitter
04-26-2010, 05:35 PM
I want Noel Devine. I've been following him since highschool, and he is unbelievable. He averaged 18.5 carries a game last year, so you he can take a pounding. Look for him to have another insane year and add to his already ridiculous production.Noel Devine is very impressive to say the least. Kid is a baller! McCluster is money, but I think Noel Devine has got a step up on him.

heavyhitter
04-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Christian Ponder, FSU, QB- Not that he'll be an option for the Giants but just thought I'd throw his name in there.

Redeyejedi
04-27-2010, 12:34 AM
Really think corner is going to be at the top of the list next year. Web getting older, TT the only young stud, Ross who knows, Bruce Johnson who knows. That's alot of question at cb</P>


Yeah I think depending on Ross this year the Giants could be looking for a nickel corner early in the 2011 draft</P>

bigblue4417
04-27-2010, 12:39 AM
I shouldnt get too ahead of myself assuming we will be picking late in the 1st--LOL!!!</p>


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Pretty sure we can't get him with the 32nd pick [;)]
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Redeyejedi
05-09-2010, 05:02 PM
Randy Shannon has announced Colin Mccarthy will move to MLB for the upcoming season for the Hurricanes. Im a bigtime Hurricane fan and this kid can play. He has good size for the postion 6-3 242 Im expecting big things from him this year. Probably a mid 3rd to 4th round pick

Redeyejedi
05-09-2010, 05:52 PM
Aaron Ross has been a disapointment to date. I feel like its a possibility the Giants could go corner early in the 2011 draft. The 2011 draft is loaded with the big physical corners that Jerry Reese seems to love.</P>


Patrick Peterson LSU 6-1 200- Peterson isthe top prospect at cornerin the 2011 draft so he will probably be out of are draft range but I think he is fantastic so I want to mention him. Peterson who at his size runs in the low 4.4's is the best corner prospect I have seen in years. I think he is a much better prospect then Joe Haden who went 7. Petersonis a legitimate shut down corner who can physically match up with even the biggest strongest receivers. Player Comparison- Antrel Rolle-Forget Rolle was a bust at corner theyshare a lot of similarities.</P>


Ras I Dowling Virgina 6-2 200- Elite size andcompetitive speed. . He isnt the smoothest corner Ive seen which leads me to believe he could be moved to Free Safety.Player comparison- Malcom Jenkins</P>


Prince Amukamara 6-1 200 Nebraska- A very good man corner who can struggle in zone. Once again an elite sized corner. Player comparison- Corey Webster</P>


A couple other guys</P>


Kendrick Burney NC</P>


Aaron Williams Texas</P>


Omar Bolden Arizona state</P>


Rashad Carmichael VT</P>

jgheels2003
05-10-2010, 03:41 PM
Redeyejedi (../members/Redeyejedi.aspx) you are right about the UNC defense. It is quite a collection of talent and the young backups will be pros too. I've adopted the Giants as my second favorite team with Nicks there now!

Not that the Giants would be looking at Greg Little...but he is our senior WR and should make a great pro. Huge vertical...snatches everything...runs like a tall RB and is VERY strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKB-KIQMg4&amp;playnext_from=TL&amp;videos=rMFjfMbUVBs

It doesn't include his great bowl game vs. Pitt, but has some good stuff. Enjoy!

dkyc205
05-13-2010, 02:27 AM
Who is the next year's CJ Spiller? I want a home run hitter on our offense with some sick speed. We are physical but probably slowest group of players on offense compared to other teams in the division. Plus, other NFC playoff teams. Manningham is more quick than fast...and hixon is above average but nothing spectacular.

dkyc205
05-13-2010, 11:28 PM
Isn't it a LITTLE too early for this?????????? Who knows how our new picks will fare this year?</P>


In case U didnt notice Ive been touching on the spots we didnt address. Im projecting are needs for 2011** LB/C/RB* and next CB and RT. If your not interested U dont have to contribute. I follow CFB and its players so Im informed when the draft rolls around. Im sharing with others, players that I will be watching this coming season and asking*posters to do the same.*Unlike most I watch the games and have my own opinions that are*not formed by reading Draftdog 2 months before the draft*</P>

i think we go O-line in next years draft, everyone on our line is over thirty or close to it exception being snee

I want a running back with speed please.

Redeyejedi
05-15-2010, 09:18 AM
If the Giants want a shutdown corner 2011 is the year there are some big bodied physical freaks at the position. I hope we can come away with one of the top 3.</P>

Redeyejedi
05-15-2010, 10:18 AM
The 2011 QB class has the makings of one of the strongest I have seen. I still cant believe Locker didnt come out because with the weakness of the class he may of well went Number 1. I like Locker and believe he will be a good NFL QB but he doesnt top my 2011 QB list.</P>


Ryan Mallet-Listed at 6-7 238 Ryan Mallet is a beast of a QB. Playing behind a terrible O-Lineand with not much help around him Mallet still put up gaudy numbers. Why I admit Mallet is a project of sorts all the tools are there. His arm strength is second to none and displays wonderful touch on the deep ball. Mallets footwork worries me a bit and he isnt a QB U want making plays outside the pocket. Some compare him to Jamarcus Russel but I think he compares closer to Ben Rothlisberger .</P>


Player comparison- Ben Roethlisberger - Minus the rape allegations</P>


Jake Locker-Locker has terrific footwork for a college QB. He has very smooth mechanics and its a joy to watch him . Locker has excellent instincts and his mobility only intensifies them. Experience in a West Coast offense which is another plus. Locker has a nice array of abilities but still has some flaws that more experience and a good QB coach can correct. Washington has a pretty bad team so its truly hard to get a total feel for Locker because he has no help. His individual skill-set however translates well in my opinion.While I thought hewas crazy to go back to school because he could of went number 1 it was for the best considering his game.</P>


Player Comparison- Everyone says Jake Plummer and I was trying to come up with a better one but for now it sticks</P>


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Theres a few guys I will write up later Andrew Luck and Pat Devlin being among them</P>

Armstead#98
05-16-2010, 12:51 AM
I would love to draft Patrick Peterson... he is a unreal CB.. I can see a scenario where 2010 is Ross and Webster last years as Giants

slipknottin
05-16-2010, 11:56 AM
I would love to draft Patrick Peterson... he is a unreal CB.. I can see a scenario where 2010 is Ross and Webster last years as Giants


Lol. Only way 2010 is websters last year as a giant is if he has some major career ending injury.

Big_Pete
05-16-2010, 07:32 PM
Here is a very early 2011 mock draft for the Giants, based on my initial expectations of team needs and early estimate of players values. This is roughlu alomng the lines of what I expect the Giants will try to do next year.

Pete's Early 2011 Giants Mock (29/04/2010)

1. RB
Mark Ingram, Alabama (5-10, 215, 4.48)

2. MLB Quan Sturdivant,
North Carolina (6-2, 232, 4.56)

3. C Stefen Wisniewski, Penn
State (6-3, 298, 5.16)

4. CB Charles Brown, North Carolina (5-10,
190, 4.48)

5. FB D.J. Williams, Arkansas (6-2, 250, 4.68)

6.
T Rob McGill, Louisiana Tech (6-6, 310, 5.04)

7. TE Mike
Ragone, Notre Dame (6-5, 252, 4.73)

slipknottin
05-17-2010, 03:50 AM
Sturdivant in the 2nd? I'd be shocked if he was there

nycsportzfan
05-17-2010, 01:09 PM
Here is a very early 2011 mock draft for the Giants, based on my initial expectations of team needs and early estimate of players values. This is roughlu alomng the lines of what I expect the Giants will try to do next year.

Pete's Early 2011 Giants Mock (29/04/2010)

1. RB
Mark Ingram, Alabama (5-10, 215, 4.48)

2. MLB Quan Sturdivant,
North Carolina (6-2, 232, 4.56)

3. C Stefen Wisniewski, Penn
State (6-3, 298, 5.16)

4. CB Charles Brown, North Carolina (5-10,
190, 4.48)

5. FB D.J. Williams, Arkansas (6-2, 250, 4.68)

6.
T Rob McGill, Louisiana Tech (6-6, 310, 5.04)

7. TE Mike
Ragone, Notre Dame (6-5, 252, 4.73)
I don't know about Mark Ingram, cause i think he's gonna go top 10, and at least, top 12-15... I also think Sturdivant makes it in to RD 1, and Wisniewski goes before we'd pick in RD 3... I'd be stoked if your draft played out for us.... Mine, would go like this, as Extremley early mock

1. Matt Reynolds OT BYU
2. Jaquizz Rodgers RB Oregon ST.
3. Weslye Saunders TE S.Carolina
4. Malcolm Smith WLB USC
5. Dan Wenger C Notre Dame
6. Dejon Gomes CB Nebraska
7. Scotty McKnight WR Colorado

Armstead#98
05-17-2010, 03:10 PM
I would love to draft Patrick Peterson... he is a unreal CB.. I can see a scenario where 2010 is Ross and Webster last years as Giants


Lol. Only way 2010 is websters last year as a giant is if he has some major career ending injury.
Corey Webster sucks... If he has another year like he had last season he will be cut.. The Giants are paying that huge salary for the play Webster brings to the field..You can take that to the bank

Redeyejedi
05-17-2010, 07:52 PM
I continue with my look at the eligblw QB's for the 2011 draft</P>


Andrew Luck Stanford- The son of former Houston Oiler QB Oliver Luck Andrew is another prototypical sized QB. At 6-4 230 Luck has the size of a franchise NFL QB. Coming from a Pro Style offense at Stanford Luck will have a leg up on the Spread offense QB's that make me sick throughout college FB. Working under former NFL QB Jim HarbaughLuck will have very good tutelge and continue to get better.I see a little tweak in his throwing motion but its not the biggest deal. He seems like an intelligent QBwhich he probably is being at Stanford. It may be just me but I see a little bit of Eli Manning in him. </P>


Player Comparision- Eli Manning</P>

beezeewee
05-17-2010, 08:10 PM
Here is a very early 2011 mock draft for the Giants, based on my initial expectations of team needs and early estimate of players values. This is roughlu alomng the lines of what I expect the Giants will try to do next year.

Pete's Early 2011 Giants Mock (29/04/2010)

1. RB
Mark Ingram, Alabama (5-10, 215, 4.48)

2. MLB Quan Sturdivant,
North Carolina (6-2, 232, 4.56)

3. C Stefen Wisniewski, Penn
State (6-3, 298, 5.16)

4. CB Charles Brown, North Carolina (5-10,
190, 4.48)

5. FB D.J. Williams, Arkansas (6-2, 250, 4.68)

6.
T Rob McGill, Louisiana Tech (6-6, 310, 5.04)

7. TE Mike
Ragone, Notre Dame (6-5, 252, 4.73)
Hey Big Pete that would be good but you forgot a DE. You know Reese has to get one every yr .LOL

NYGJayPro81
05-17-2010, 09:18 PM
I would love to draft Patrick Peterson... he is a unreal CB.. I can see a scenario where 2010 is Ross and Webster last years as Giants


Lol. Only way 2010 is websters last year as a giant is if he has some major career ending injury.
Corey Webster sucks... If he has another year like he had last season he will be cut.. The Giants are paying that huge salary for the play Webster brings to the field..You can take that to the bank


I was saying the same thing when somebody made the Terrell Thomas vs. Aaron Ross thread. Corey Webster is overrated and over paid because of the Super Bowl run.

I wanted Kyle Wilson or Devin McCourty in the first round this year. I wish FSU's CB Greg Reid was eligible to come out after this season; he's gonna be a beast.

NYGJayPro81
05-17-2010, 09:30 PM
Donald Buckram from UTEP is a sleeper RB this year in College Football.

Big_Pete
05-17-2010, 11:18 PM
I don't know about Mark Ingram, cause i think he's gonna go top 10, and at least, top 12-15... I also think Sturdivant makes it in to RD 1, and Wisniewski goes before we'd pick in RD 3... I'd be stoked if your draft played out for us.... Mine, would go like this, as Extremley early mock

1. Matt Reynolds OT BYU
2. Jaquizz Rodgers RB Oregon ST.
3. Weslye Saunders TE S.Carolina
4. Malcolm Smith WLB USC
5. Dan Wenger C Notre Dame
6. Dejon Gomes CB Nebraska
7. Scotty McKnight WR Colorado


Firstly I have assumed we draft around the same as last year. While I am certainly optimistic and hopefull of a good season, the bottom line is at the moment we are a mid level team based on performaces last year. I will wait until I see improved performaces on the field before I revise my expectations too much.

I think Ingram may be there, RBs have certainly slipped in recent years. Don't forget he will likely be sharing carries this year.

CB, ILB, and OC are shaping up as good classes with a few options

DE is looking stacked and I guess could be an option depending on what happens with Kiwanuka and Osi

Anyways it was my early mock right after the draft, we will see how things shake up over the year.

Redeyejedi
05-17-2010, 11:31 PM
QB,LB and CB is loaded with top prospects. I also like the group of Centers that r coming out. The Safety class could be very top heavy if the juniors come out. The LB class has some strange players that Im not sure of what to make of them. Greg Jones and Kelvin Shepard r guys that i will be watching to see exactly where they fit. At the moment I would rate the class as</P>


1.QB</P>


2.CB</P>


3.LB</P>

Armstead#98
05-18-2010, 12:28 AM
I would love to draft Patrick Peterson... he is a unreal CB.. I can see a scenario where 2010 is Ross and Webster last years as Giants


Lol. Only way 2010 is websters last year as a giant is if he has some major career ending injury.
Corey Webster sucks... If he has another year like he had last season he will be cut.. The Giants are paying that huge salary for the play Webster brings to the field..You can take that to the bank


I was saying the same thing when somebody made the Terrell Thomas vs. Aaron Ross thread. Corey Webster is overrated and over paid because of the Super Bowl run.

I wanted Kyle Wilson or Devin McCourty in the first round this year. I wish FSU's CB Greg Reid was eligible to come out after this season; he's gonna be a beast.
Corey had a good SB run and a good 2008 but last year was a absolute disaster for him.. If he has a season like that next year he will be cut.. No way in hell the Giants pay 8 million a year for that caliber of play... I love the idea of a Patrick Peterson, Terrell Thomas, Kenny Phillips, Antrelle Rolle , Chad Jones Secondary for the future

BRGiantFAN
05-24-2010, 10:55 AM
Ohara is getting a little long in the tooth and although he has been exceptional the last 3 years he could turn downhill at any point</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/PennState_logo.gifStefan Wisniewski 6-3 300 C/G- Some have him listed as a latefirst rounder which I guess is possible but I think he is more of a mid to late2nd round prospect at center. Wisniwski started 12 games at center in 2009 but will be back at guard for 2010. (2)</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/USC_logo.gifKristofer O'Dowd 6-5 300 C- He is the best center in the class no doubt and has the frame to bulk up a little more. I doubt the Giants would get the chance or even want to pick O'Dowdat 32 unless Oharas play falls of a cliff but somebody will get a good center prospect. The only problem I have with O'Dowd is that he is injury prone.The guy is tough and Carrol needed to remove himfrom the field because O'Dowd wanted to continue to play hurt (1-2)</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/Florida_logo.gifMike Pouncey 6-5 320 C/G- A lot of you liked his brother Maurkice and wanted the Giants to select him in the first round.While I liked Pouncey as the best interior lineman I wasnt crazy about a first round pick being used on him. Mike is a massive center but Im not quite sure if its best postion.He may be a better fit at guard but mentioned him because of the love his brother got on this board (2)</p>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/TCU_logo.gifJake Kirkpatrick 6-3 305 C/G- I was only going to mention the consensustop guys at the position for now but I really like Jake so I thought I would put his name on here. Jake is a freak athlete for a center who doesnt have that much experience playing football "Which should fit with Reese did in this draft LOL". Jake is the leader of an offensive line that was top 5 in rushing and 7th in sacks allowed. Most people have Jake as a 5th rounder. This is a pretty good class at center so that is possible but I think he will be a guy that creeps towards the top of the center rankings by draft time next year</p>


</p> I was gonna put up Pouncey and O'Dowd, u obviously already got there.. I will add a Center who i think will move up alot during the Season..

Dan Wegner C Notre Dame- A very gritty, hardnosed competitor, who was highly recrutied coming out of highschool.... I think hes gonna move up teams boards bigtime this yr...

Obi Ezeh ILB Michigan- Heres a ILB to watch out for this yr.. This guys is poised to breakout in a big way, watch him climb ladders this season! He'd of been a early 3rd rd pick this yr, if he came out.. This guy is a sure tackler, that can explode downhill, and isn't really a liability in coverege.


Obi Ezeh - FTW

Redeyejedi
06-08-2010, 08:37 PM
Early 2011 Big Board 1-25 </P>


1.Ryan Mallet- QB Arkansas-Mallet is a physical beast who admittedly is extremely raw.Mallets TD to Int ratio was 30-7 last year with a completion percentage of just under 56%. The decision making is there if the accuracy improves along with his physical attributes look out.</P>


2.Patrick Peterson CB LSU- The best corner prospect in years at 6-1 211. Think Antrell Rolle in college.</P>


3. Jake Locker QB Washington- Has some blemishes that he isnt called on but has great footwork for a college QB</P>


4. Robert Quinn DE North Carolina- 52 tackles 19 TFL and 11 sacks as a sophomore for the loaded Tarheels defense.</P>


5.Adrian Clayborn 3-4 DE Iowa- The first of an absolutely loaded 3-4 End class. 11 sacks 70 tackles with 20 TFL.</P>


6.Cameron Heyward 3-4 DE Ohio State- Very high motor player that plays inside and out.</P>


7. AJ Green WR Georgia- Crisp route runner with great NFL size.</P>


8. Marcel Dareus 3-4 DE/DT Alabama- Plays both positions in Alabama's multi front hybrid defense.</P>


9. Julio Jones WR Alabama- Julio had a down year but there is no question the tools are there</P>


10. Greg Romeus DE Pitt- Very athletic for a 6-5 270LB DE.</P>


11. Andrew Luck QB Stanford- A lot of people are very high on Luck and I have seen him projected by some as the number 1 pick in the 2011 draft.</P>


12. Joe Barksdale T LSU- In my opinion a better left tackle prospect then Ciron Black he will get his chance to prove it this fall.</P>


13. Prince Akamura CB Nebraska- Reminds me a lot of Corey Webster a physical corner who excels in man and struggles in zone.</P>


14. Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin- Personally I think he is a better fit for RT but we will see</P>


15. Jonathan Baldwin WR Pitt- Another Giant receiver at 6-5 225 this class has some good ones</P>


16. Ras I Dowling FS/CB Virgina- Dowling reminds me of Malcom Jenkins.Depending on the team he gets drafted he may end up at free safety.</P>


17. Von Miller 3-4 OLB Texas A&amp;M- Miller is one hell of a pass rusher. Strictly a 3-4 prospect unless he gains 25 pounds.</P>


18.Bruce Carter LB NC- Carter possess great raw skill and in my opinion could play any linebacker spot. He needs to bulk up to move to the middle but he certainly has the frame</P>


19.Marvin Austin DT NC-Based on potential Austin could be at the top of the charts but the production just isn't there</P>


20.Rahim Moore S UCLA-Had an other worldly 10 interceptions in 2009</P>


21.Jared Crick 3/4 DE/DT- Lost in the shuffle of Suh's fantastic season Crick quietly put together a season that would jump out if u weren't playing next to the best DT in the country. Crick had 9.5 Sacks and 73 tackles 15 TFL</P>


22.Deandre Mcdaniel S Clemson-Another ball hawking FS Mcdanielhad7 interceptions in 2009. Ball hawking safeties </P>


23.Aaron Williams CB Texas- Another big physical corner for the 2011 draft</P>


24.Mark Ingram RB Alabama- The Heisman trophy winner doesn't have elite size or speed. He does run hard and possess an all around skill set</P>


25.Allen Bailey 3-4 DE/DT Miami- The U can return to the 1st round of the NFL draft with a freak of an athlete in Allen Bailey. </P>


26-50 Later</P>

Redeyejedi
06-08-2010, 08:37 PM
Early 2011 Big Board 1-25 </P>


1.Ryan Mallet- QB Arkansas-Mallet is a physical beast who admittedly is extremely raw.Mallets TD to Int ratio was 30-7 last year with a completion percentage of just under 56%. The decision making is there if the accuracy improves along with his physical attributes look out.</P>


2.Patrick Peterson CB LSU- The best corner prospect in years at 6-1 211. Think Antrell Rolle in college.</P>


3. Jake Locker QB Washington- Has some blemishes that he isnt called on but has great footwork for a college QB</P>


4. Robert Quinn DE North Carolina- 52 tackles 19 TFL and 11 sacks as a sophomore for the loaded Tarheels defense.</P>


5.Adrian Clayborn 3-4 DE Iowa- The first of an absolutely loaded 3-4 End class. 11 sacks 70 tackles with 20 TFL.</P>


6.Cameron Heyward 3-4 DE Ohio State- Very high motor player that plays inside and out.</P>


7. AJ Green WR Georgia- Crisp route runner with great NFL size.</P>


8. Marcel Dareus 3-4 DE/DT Alabama- Plays both positions in Alabama's multi front hybrid defense.</P>


9. Julio Jones WR Alabama- Julio had a down year but there is no question the tools are there</P>


10. Greg Romeus DE Pitt- Very athletic for a 6-5 270LB DE.</P>


11. Andrew Luck QB Stanford- A lot of people are very high on Luck and I have seen him projected by some as the number 1 pick in the 2011 draft.</P>


12. Joe Barksdale T LSU- In my opinion a better left tackle prospect then Ciron Black he will get his chance to prove it this fall.</P>


13. Prince Akamura CB Nebraska- Reminds me a lot of Corey Webster a physical corner who excels in man and struggles in zone.</P>


14. Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin- Personally I think he is a better fit for RT but we will see</P>


15. Jonathan Baldwin WR Pitt- Another Giant receiver at 6-5 225 this class has some good ones</P>


16. Ras I Dowling FS/CB Virgina- Dowling reminds me of Malcom Jenkins.Depending on the team he gets drafted he may end up at free safety.</P>


17. Von Miller 3-4 OLB Texas A&amp;M- Miller is one hell of a pass rusher. Strictly a 3-4 prospect unless he gains 25 pounds.</P>


18.Bruce Carter LB NC- Carter possess great raw skill and in my opinion could play any linebacker spot. He needs to bulk up to move to the middle but he certainly has the frame</P>


19.Marvin Austin DT NC-Based on potential Austin could be at the top of the charts but the production just isn't there</P>


20.Rahim Moore S UCLA-Had an other worldly 10 interceptions in 2009</P>


21.Jared Crick 3/4 DE/DT- Lost in the shuffle of Suh's fantastic season Crick quietly put together a season that would jump out if u weren't playing next to the best DT in the country. Crick had 9.5 Sacks and 73 tackles 15 TFL</P>


22.Deandre Mcdaniel S Clemson-Another ball hawking FS Mcdanielhad7 interceptions in 2009. Ball hawking safeties </P>


23.Aaron Williams CB Texas- Another big physical corner for the 2011 draft</P>


24.Mark Ingram RB Alabama- The Heisman trophy winner doesn't have elite size or speed. He does run hard and possess an all around skill set</P>


25.Allen Bailey 3-4 DE/DT Miami- The U can return to the 1st round of the NFL draft with a freak of an athlete in Allen Bailey. </P>


26-50 Later</P>

nycsportzfan
06-09-2010, 10:13 AM
Early 2011 Big Board 1-25 </p>


1.Ryan Mallet- QB Arkansas-Mallet is a physical beast who admittedly is extremely raw.Mallets TD to Int ratio was 30-7 last year with a completion percentage of just under 56%. The decision making is there if the accuracy improves along with his physical attributes look out.</p>


2.Patrick Peterson CB LSU- The best corner prospect in years at 6-1 211. Think Antrell Rolle in college.</p>


3. Jake Locker QB Washington- Has some blemishes that he isnt called on but has great footwork for a college QB</p>


4. Robert Quinn DE North Carolina- 52 tackles 19 TFL and 11 sacks as a sophomore for the loaded Tarheels defense.</p>


5.Adrian Clayborn 3-4 DE Iowa- The first of an absolutely loaded 3-4 End class. 11 sacks 70 tackles with 20 TFL.</p>


6.Cameron Heyward 3-4 DE Ohio State- Very high motor player that plays inside and out.</p>


7. AJ Green WR Georgia- Crisp route runner with great NFL size.</p>


8. Marcel Dareus 3-4 DE/DT Alabama- Plays both positions in Alabama's multi front hybrid defense.</p>


9. Julio Jones WR Alabama- Julio had a down year but there is no question the tools are there</p>


10. Greg Romeus DE Pitt- Very athletic for a 6-5 270LB DE.</p>


11. Andrew Luck QB Stanford- A lot of people are very high on Luck and I have seen him projected by some as the number 1 pick in the 2011 draft.</p>


12. Joe Barksdale T LSU- In my opinion a better left tackle prospect then Ciron Black he will get his chance to prove it this fall.</p>


13. Prince Akamura CB Nebraska- Reminds me a lot of Corey Webster a physical corner who excels in man and struggles in zone.</p>


14. Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin- Personally I think he is a better fit for RT but we will see</p>


15. Jonathan Baldwin WR Pitt- Another Giant receiver at 6-5 225 this class has some good ones</p>


16. Ras I Dowling FS/CB Virgina- Dowling reminds me of Malcom Jenkins.Depending on the team he gets drafted he may end up at free safety.</p>


17. Von Miller 3-4 OLB Texas A&amp;M- Miller is one hell of a pass rusher. Strictly a 3-4 prospect unless he gains 25 pounds.</p>


18.Bruce Carter LB NC- Carter possess great raw skill and in my opinion could play any linebacker spot. He needs to bulk up to move to the middle but he certainly has the frame</p>


19.Marvin Austin DT NC-Based on potential Austin could be at the top of the charts but the production just isn't there</p>


20.Rahim Moore S UCLA-Had an other worldly 10 interceptions in 2009</p>


21.Jared Crick 3/4 DE/DT- Lost in the shuffle of Suh's fantastic season Crick quietly put together a season that would jump out if u weren't playing next to the best DT in the country. Crick had 9.5 Sacks and 73 tackles 15 TFL</p>


22.Deandre Mcdaniel S Clemson-Another ball hawking FS Mcdanielhad7 interceptions in 2009. Ball hawking safeties </p>


23.Aaron Williams CB Texas- Another big physical corner for the 2011 draft</p>


24.Mark Ingram RB Alabama- The Heisman trophy winner doesn't have elite size or speed. He does run hard and possess an all around skill set</p>


25.Allen Bailey 3-4 DE/DT Miami- The U can return to the 1st round of the NFL draft with a freak of an athlete in Allen Bailey. </p>


26-50 Later</p> A guy, i kinda like alot, is Matt Renyolds OT BYU... He has RT written all over em, and if we have a Big Yr, and draft in the later 20's or hopefully last pick of Rd 1, i'd definetly not mind scooping him up for Kareem McKenzies positon, then Move Diehl Inside, and have Beatty on the LT positon..

nycsportzfan
06-09-2010, 10:13 AM
Early 2011 Big Board 1-25 </p>


1.Ryan Mallet- QB Arkansas-Mallet is a physical beast who admittedly is extremely raw.Mallets TD to Int ratio was 30-7 last year with a completion percentage of just under 56%. The decision making is there if the accuracy improves along with his physical attributes look out.</p>


2.Patrick Peterson CB LSU- The best corner prospect in years at 6-1 211. Think Antrell Rolle in college.</p>


3. Jake Locker QB Washington- Has some blemishes that he isnt called on but has great footwork for a college QB</p>


4. Robert Quinn DE North Carolina- 52 tackles 19 TFL and 11 sacks as a sophomore for the loaded Tarheels defense.</p>


5.Adrian Clayborn 3-4 DE Iowa- The first of an absolutely loaded 3-4 End class. 11 sacks 70 tackles with 20 TFL.</p>


6.Cameron Heyward 3-4 DE Ohio State- Very high motor player that plays inside and out.</p>


7. AJ Green WR Georgia- Crisp route runner with great NFL size.</p>


8. Marcel Dareus 3-4 DE/DT Alabama- Plays both positions in Alabama's multi front hybrid defense.</p>


9. Julio Jones WR Alabama- Julio had a down year but there is no question the tools are there</p>


10. Greg Romeus DE Pitt- Very athletic for a 6-5 270LB DE.</p>


11. Andrew Luck QB Stanford- A lot of people are very high on Luck and I have seen him projected by some as the number 1 pick in the 2011 draft.</p>


12. Joe Barksdale T LSU- In my opinion a better left tackle prospect then Ciron Black he will get his chance to prove it this fall.</p>


13. Prince Akamura CB Nebraska- Reminds me a lot of Corey Webster a physical corner who excels in man and struggles in zone.</p>


14. Gabe Carimi T Wisconsin- Personally I think he is a better fit for RT but we will see</p>


15. Jonathan Baldwin WR Pitt- Another Giant receiver at 6-5 225 this class has some good ones</p>


16. Ras I Dowling FS/CB Virgina- Dowling reminds me of Malcom Jenkins.Depending on the team he gets drafted he may end up at free safety.</p>


17. Von Miller 3-4 OLB Texas A&amp;M- Miller is one hell of a pass rusher. Strictly a 3-4 prospect unless he gains 25 pounds.</p>


18.Bruce Carter LB NC- Carter possess great raw skill and in my opinion could play any linebacker spot. He needs to bulk up to move to the middle but he certainly has the frame</p>


19.Marvin Austin DT NC-Based on potential Austin could be at the top of the charts but the production just isn't there</p>


20.Rahim Moore S UCLA-Had an other worldly 10 interceptions in 2009</p>


21.Jared Crick 3/4 DE/DT- Lost in the shuffle of Suh's fantastic season Crick quietly put together a season that would jump out if u weren't playing next to the best DT in the country. Crick had 9.5 Sacks and 73 tackles 15 TFL</p>


22.Deandre Mcdaniel S Clemson-Another ball hawking FS Mcdanielhad7 interceptions in 2009. Ball hawking safeties </p>


23.Aaron Williams CB Texas- Another big physical corner for the 2011 draft</p>


24.Mark Ingram RB Alabama- The Heisman trophy winner doesn't have elite size or speed. He does run hard and possess an all around skill set</p>


25.Allen Bailey 3-4 DE/DT Miami- The U can return to the 1st round of the NFL draft with a freak of an athlete in Allen Bailey. </p>


26-50 Later</p> A guy, i kinda like alot, is Matt Renyolds OT BYU... He has RT written all over em, and if we have a Big Yr, and draft in the later 20's or hopefully last pick of Rd 1, i'd definetly not mind scooping him up for Kareem McKenzies positon, then Move Diehl Inside, and have Beatty on the LT positon..

Martyr
07-22-2010, 10:34 PM
Mark Herzlich

Redeyejedi
07-23-2010, 07:10 PM
I love the North Carolina defense. They have great players all over the field.</P>


Here is a video of Robert Quinn vs Anthony Constanzo of BC one of the top rated tackles in the 2011 draft.Watch Quinn absolutly abuse him at 22 seconds.They battled back and forth good video</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqJrjwjf55c&amp;feature=related</P>


Here is another of Linebacker Quan Sturdivant a MLB-WLB prospect i had hoped would of come out in 2010</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id-whIyM9AA&amp;NR=1</P>


Same game the speedy Stong Side linebacker of NC Bruce Carter.Who comes with some measurables .6-3 230 4.45 40 40 inch vert. the guys a beast</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wCYcokDm-E&amp;feature=related</P>

joeybagadonutz23
07-25-2010, 05:58 AM
I like...

1. Quan Sturdivant MLB, Carolina
2. Demarcus Love Offensive Tackle, Arkansas

<u>Others</u>

RB's
Noel Devine W. Virginia
Da'Rel Scott Maryland
Evan Royster PSU

SS
DeAndre McDaniel Clemson

FS
Robert Sands W. Virginia

CB
Patrick Peterson LSU

MLB
Kelvin Sheppard LSU
Don'ta Hightower Alabama
Martez Wilson Illinois
Jeremy Beal Oklahoma

shocknaweny
07-26-2010, 12:18 AM
Bruce Carter please...

Armstead#98
07-26-2010, 04:42 PM
Patrick Peterson is like a Super CB.. He is very big for a corner, absolutely ripped and very fast...He also has locked down Aj Green and Julio Jones 2 Big physical S.E.C WR
I would love to see him on the Giants next year

littlecpz
07-27-2010, 11:08 AM
I think he projects as a WLB but who knows he could still grow into his body.
www.america-jerseys.com

littlecpz
07-27-2010, 11:15 AM
looking forward to the 2010 drafts
www.america-jerseys.com

jeffgman
07-27-2010, 11:21 AM
I like this thread. I'm taking notes and writing down names. I love college ball! And I enjoy watching players I know. Good thread Redeyejedi.

If anyone plays NCAA 11 let me know. (xbox)

slipknottin
07-27-2010, 08:47 PM
Patrick Peterson is like a Super CB.. He is very big for a corner, absolutely ripped and very fast...He also has locked down Aj Green and Julio Jones 2 Big physical S.E.C WR
I would love to see him on the Giants next year


I think Peterson is a top 10 pick. Hopefully the giants have no shot at him. That is if he even declares. Hes a junior this upcoming year.

Redeyejedi
07-27-2010, 09:45 PM
Patrick Peterson is like a Super CB.. He is very big for a corner, absolutely ripped and very fast...He also has locked down Aj Green and Julio Jones 2 Big physical S.E.C WR
I would love to see him on the Giants next year
</P>


Yeah Petersons awesome doubt we get a shot at him though. He is likely a top 10 pick. Prince Akamura from Nebraska is a nice player 2. The 11 draft has some big physical corners at the top . The depth might not be as good as the 10 draft but when I look at some of these players the top guys are pretty damn good. QB,CB,LB and DE especially the 3-4 ends have very strong classes. </P>

Redeyejedi
07-27-2010, 09:56 PM
I like this thread. I'm taking notes and writing down names. I love college ball! And I enjoy watching players I know. Good thread Redeyejedi. If anyone plays NCAA 11 let me know. (xbox)</P>


I started a College Football thread on here for the 11 season that I will be updating with some top early games soon. Please contribute last years thread went 6 pages before I gave up talking to myself on it</P>

nycsportzfan
07-28-2010, 03:39 AM
matt reynolds, big mamouth RT prospect from BYU

Donta Hightower, reminds me of McClain, big bruising LB, who dosen't have positon yet, could go back to WS, or be replacement for McClain at MLB, which i think he will do...

Greg Jones, ultra productive, grinder, whos in on every play, hasen't done much in pass game....

Nate Solder OT COL- a monster of a man, with freakish Athletic skills, will be fun to see if his athletiscim brings him to the top of RD 1, or the bottom, or even out.. Really Really worth keeping a Eye on....


Kyle Rudolph, a scoring threat TE, whos more naturally gifted then K.Boss is, and if were in a pinch, and picking late in RD 1, its a name to keep a eye on...

Malcolm Smith- Steves Brother, has got some skills as a WLB, and i expect his name to garner more attention as season goes on....

Speaking of USC lb's, Chris Gallipo should bring the pain this yr, and expect a ALL AROUND season for the USC MLB, even better then 09, where he really put together a ALL AROUND SEASON, making plays behind the line of scrimmage, jarring balls lose, and even making plays against the pass... Watch For Malcolm Smith and Gallipo to both have bigtime yr's..

So, again, heres the names i'm looking forward to following among others..

Donta Hightower
Matt Reynolds
Kyle Rudolph
Nate Solder
Malcolm Smith
Chris Gallipo
Quan Sturdivant
Dan Wegner(sleeper C prospect)
Mark Herzlich(if healthy, my lord, watch out!)
Jaquizz Rodgers(would certainly be worth a first rd flyer if we pick late, and don't find suitable KR/PR this season, and would kick but as a 3rd down RB/WR type as well, a all around speedy weapon)

nycsportzfan
07-28-2010, 03:41 AM
The Giants struggled running the ball in 2009 and were reportedly high on CJ Spiller. I am a big advocate of the Giants getting an elite pass catching back if he brings home run speed even better. Depending on what happens with Jacobs and Bradshaw will determine how high the Giants take a guy. If Brown or Ware doesnt emerge as a legitimate receiver the Giants could still take a guy that could catch the ball. I dont think the Giants will spend a first rounder so I will exclude the likes of Mark Ingram but if somebody wants 2 add him feel free. These guys are just some early favorites and guys I will be watching for early in the year</p>


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http://walterfootball.com/college/Oklahoma_logo.gifDemarco Murray 6-1 215 - I was high on Murray coming into the 2010 draft and he decided to return to school. Murray has been banged up and was projected as a 4th rounder so he wisely returned. Murray has a similar running style and build to that of Adrian Peterson and like Peterson has shown the tendency to get nicked up. Murray has a knack at getting open and finding space in the passing game and had 41 receptions in 2009. Some people have Murray projected as a first rounder but I dont believe he will go that high. His history of being nicked up makes him 2-3 round prospect. (2-3)</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgrU7mTBeM</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtmtSS0vD34&amp;feature=related</p>


http://walterfootball.com/college/WestVirginia_logo.gifNoel Devine 5-8 175-I was shocked when Devine decided to return to school at first but seeing how Spiller was a projected 2nd rounder in 2008 returned and went in the top 10 im thinking Devine may be banking on the same thing. I dont think Devine will go in the top 10 but its quite possible he could go in the range that Chris Johnson did. With Mcclustergoing at 36Devine will mostly go at the end of round 1. So if the Giants return to the playoffs he may be right in there draft range. Ilike Devine and think his break away speedand play making abilitywould make a huge impact on the Giants offense.Like McclusterDevine has proven to be durable and productive. Devine has had over 200 carries the last 2 years and managed a YPC over 6.0. The only difference is Devine comes with the elite speed Mccluster doesnt. (1-2)</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9MuxAszEM</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OtxamhvOGE&amp;feature=related</p>


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http://walterfootball.com/college/OregonState_logo.gifJacquizRodgers 5-7 191- Every year theres specific players I try to watch when I dont know a lot about them Rodgers will be one of them this year. Rodgers had an other worldly 78 receptions in 2009 to go along with his 273 carries. For a college player that is carrying the load on a whole other scale .Rodgers carry totals make me think he will be coming out in the 2011 draft that is just a lot of miles on his legs before he goes to the NFL. Rodgersdoesnt appear to have elite speed for that size so I will be looking to see just how shifty he is season but I am certainly intrigued by his pass catching (2-3)</p>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5XwHwe0QNI</p>


http://walterfootball.com/college/OhioState_logo.gifBrandon Saine 6-1 217- Mildly productive in his first year without Wells around. Saine possess a nice Speed size combo and good skill set. I have a feeling Saine is going to be a better pro then he was in college. Splitting the carries with Herron will limit his productivity but someone will end up getting a good player at a discounted price. (4)</p>


http://walterfootball.com/college/TexasTech_logo.gifBarron Batch 5-11 205- Batch caught my eye in the Alamo bowl last year as he racked up 185 yards from scrimmage. Batch has good speed and has proven to be a good receiver in TT's screwed up offense. (5)</p> I love Brandon Saine, if there was a Ryan Grant Clone, he may be it...

hammersavage
08-15-2010, 06:58 PM
A potential 2nd day pick, DE Christian Anthony from Grambling, suffered a heart attack yesterday.

Pretty crazy for someone his age and in great shape.

http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/prospect-suffers-heart-attack.html

hammersavage
08-18-2010, 09:01 PM
<h3 class="entry-header"><font size="3">2011 NFL Draft Pre-Season Preview: Defensive Tackle</font> (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/2011-nfl-draft-preseason-preview-defensive-tackle.html)</h3>

Redeyejedi
08-18-2010, 09:13 PM
<H3 class=entry-header><FONT size=3>2011 NFL Draft Pre-Season Preview: Defensive Tackle</FONT> (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/2011-nfl-draft-preseason-preview-defensive-tackle.html)</H3>


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This is a pretty good DT class . I think DT will be an early target again next year</P>

Raptor22
08-18-2010, 10:08 PM
I'm thinking that Reese will use this coming draft to fortify the OL, and (probably) either S, LB, or CB (depending on if/how Jones comes back from his accident, and how the linebackers perform)

TE, FB, or RB could be secondary.

I've noticed that in the last two years Reese has taken about half his picks and really bolster a particular area. Yes, he drafts for value first, but JR and friends are good enough scouts that value and need tend to coincide.

Redeyejedi
08-18-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm thinking that Reese will use this coming draft to fortify the OL, and (probably) either S, LB, or CB (depending on if/how Jones comes back from his accident, and how the linebackers perform)

TE, FB, or RB could be secondary.

I've noticed that in the last two years Reese has taken about half his picks and really bolster a particular area. Yes, he drafts for value first, but JR and friends are good enough scouts that value and need tend to coincide.
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A RT and a Center are a must if Ohara goes downhill quick the Giants could be in some trouble. They have 3 guys fortified for the future they need 2 more starters. Is Petrus a guy? Maybe , Either he or Diehl could possibly play RT as well. Safety again is a possibility although an early indication this group isnt anywhere near as good as last year. If the underclassman come out the top is good not much depth though. CB could be fine depending how they perform if Ross falters a nickelback could be a big priority. The CB position is loaded at the top. The LB class is very good as well if the Giants dont takea MLB highin the 11 draft they never will.</P>


DT still could be a need Alford and Coefieldcould be FA or RFA depending on what happens with the CBA and Bernard has underperformed thus far. When I start looking at it, I see a lot of holes on this roster</P>

GMEN 92
08-18-2010, 10:41 PM
Sturdivant looks downright dirty, could be the next big MLB since Willis. Definitely appears to have all the tools, plays well in space, makes plays, seems like a smart player. I'm curious to see how he plays between the tackles and how he can take on the interior OL's in the run game. If he can do that you're looking at a future star.

Reese will certainly take need into account. If Goff/Wilk/Dillard show that they're ready to step up and play well then I think Reese will look to fortify the OL first and foremost.

hammersavage
08-18-2010, 10:51 PM
<h3 class="entry-header"><font size="3">2011 NFL Draft Pre-Season Preview: Defensive Tackle</font> (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/2011-nfl-draft-preseason-preview-defensive-tackle.html)</h3>


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This is a pretty good DT class . I think DT will be an early target again next year</p>

depending how the D plays out this season, its very possible.

nycsportzfan
08-19-2010, 01:21 AM
I'm thinking that Reese will use this coming draft to fortify the OL, and (probably) either S, LB, or CB (depending on if/how Jones comes back from his accident, and how the linebackers perform)

TE, FB, or RB could be secondary.

I've noticed that in the last two years Reese has taken about half his picks and really bolster a particular area. Yes, he drafts for value first, but JR and friends are good enough scouts that value and need tend to coincide.
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A RT and a Center are a must if Ohara goes downhill quick the Giants could be in some trouble. They have 3 guys fortified for the future they need 2 more starters. Is Petrus a guy? Maybe , Either he or Diehl could possibly play RT as well. Safety again is a possibility although an early indication this group isnt anywhere near as good as last year. If the underclassman come out the top is good not much depth though. CB could be fine depending how they perform if Ross falters a nickelback could be a big priority. The CB position is loaded at the top. The LB class is very good as well if the Giants dont takea MLB highin the 11 draft they never will.</p>


DT still could be a need Alford and Coefieldcould be FA or RFA depending on what happens with the CBA and Bernard has underperformed thus far. When I start looking at it, I see a lot of holes on this roster</p>definetly feeling the LB class this yr, and even with boley, if we get a chance to get Travis Lewis, i would hope we'd pull that trigger, hes the best LB in the country in my opinion.. Greg Jones would be a nice WLB pickup, similar to Daryl Washington of this past draft.. Then u got Steve Smiths brother Malcolm SMith, who i think is poised to have a big yr, USC is stout at LB, with Chris Gallipo in the middle and Malcom SMith.. OBviously, Sturdivant is another LB i like, as well as Kelvin Sheppard and Mark Herzlich.. If Herzlich is healthy, my lord, watch out!

myles2424
08-21-2010, 05:31 PM
<H3 class=entry-header><FONT size=3>2011 NFL Draft Pre-Season Preview: Defensive Tackle</FONT> (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/2011-nfl-draft-preseason-preview-defensive-tackle.html)</H3>


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This is a pretty good DT class . I think DT will be an early target again next year</P>
Absolutely....Im thinking...
OT ( Free Agency).......1st round (MLB)....2nd DT or CB....3rd C.....4th...TE....I could see something like this happening....Too early to say

Redeyejedi
08-23-2010, 09:20 PM
The Giants struggled running the ball in 2009 and were reportedly high on CJ Spiller. I am a big advocate of the Giants getting an elite pass catching back if he brings home run speed even better. Depending on what happens with Jacobs and Bradshaw will determine how high the Giants take a guy. If Brown or Ware doesnt emerge as a legitimate receiver the Giants could still take a guy that could catch the ball. I dont think the Giants will spend a first rounder so I will exclude the likes of Mark Ingram but if somebody wants 2 add him feel free. These guys are just some early favorites and guys I will be watching for early in the year</P>


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http://walterfootball.com/college/Oklahoma_logo.gifDemarco Murray 6-1 215 - I was high on Murray coming into the 2010 draft and he decided to return to school. Murray has been banged up and was projected as a 4th rounder so he wisely returned. Murray has a similar running style and build to that of Adrian Peterson and like Peterson has shown the tendency to get nicked up. Murray has a knack at getting open and finding space in the passing game and had 41 receptions in 2009. Some people have Murray projected as a first rounder but I dont believe he will go that high. His history of being nicked up makes him 2-3 round prospect. (2-3)</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgrU7mTBeM</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtmtSS0vD34&amp;feature=related</P>


http://walterfootball.com/college/WestVirginia_logo.gifNoel Devine 5-8 175-I was shocked when Devine decided to return to school at first but seeing how Spiller was a projected 2nd rounder in 2008 returned and went in the top 10 im thinking Devine may be banking on the same thing. I dont think Devine will go in the top 10 but its quite possible he could go in the range that Chris Johnson did. With Mcclustergoing at 36Devine will mostly go at the end of round 1. So if the Giants return to the playoffs he may be right in there draft range. Ilike Devine and think his break away speedand play making abilitywould make a huge impact on the Giants offense.Like McclusterDevine has proven to be durable and productive. Devine has had over 200 carries the last 2 years and managed a YPC over 6.0. The only difference is Devine comes with the elite speed Mccluster doesnt. (1-2)</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp9MuxAszEM</P>


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http://walterfootball.com/college/OregonState_logo.gifJacquizRodgers 5-7 191- Every year theres specific players I try to watch when I dont know a lot about them Rodgers will be one of them this year. Rodgers had an other worldly 78 receptions in 2009 to go along with his 273 carries. For a college player that is carrying the load on a whole other scale .Rodgers carry totals make me think he will be coming out in the 2011 draft that is just a lot of miles on his legs before he goes to the NFL. Rodgersdoesnt appear to have elite speed for that size so I will be looking to see just how shifty he is season but I am certainly intrigued by his pass catching (2-3)</P>


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5XwHwe0QNI</P>


http://walterfootball.com/college/OhioState_logo.gifBrandon Saine 6-1 217- Mildly productive in his first year without Wells around. Saine possess a nice Speed size combo and good skill set. I have a feeling Saine is going to be a better pro then he was in college. Splitting the carries with Herron will limit his productivity but someone will end up getting a good player at a discounted price. (4)</P>


http://walterfootball.com/college/TexasTech_logo.gifBarron Batch 5-11 205- Batch caught my eye in the Alamo bowl last year as he racked up 185 yards from scrimmage. Batch has good speed and has proven to be a good receiver in TT's screwed up offense. (5)</P>


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I didnt have Ryan Williams on here and just wanted to add him because I didnt mention some of the top tier guys. I have Williams as of now as the top RB in the 2011 class.</P>


http://www.walterfootball.com/college/VirginiaTech_logo.gifRyan Williams 5-10 206- As a redshirt sophmore Williams busted out 1695 yards on 293 carries and 21 TD's . An every down back with sub 4.5 speed and a solid build. (1)</P>

hammersavage
08-24-2010, 10:39 AM
2011 NFL Draft Pre-Season Preview: OLB's (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/2011-nfl-draft-preseason-preview-outside-linebacker.html)

slipknottin
08-24-2010, 07:13 PM
The more I look through the 2011 draft the more Im stunned by the depth.

A guy like Quan Sturdivant is a first round talent, even if he has a very good year he may not get drafted till like the 3rd round.

A guy like Noel Devine much the same. Maybe a 3rd rounder, even if he does run a 4.25 at the combine.

Deunta Williams the FS may also not go until the 3rd or later.

There are at least 4 senior DEs that are going to be first rounders, maybe 5. And there are a couple juniors that could be 1st round DEs - Robert Quinn specifically. Another pretty good OT class, could be 5 or more taken in the 1st round.

The safety class looks relatively weak, at least compared to last year. CB isnt as strong either, not as much depth though the top guys (Amakamara and Peterson if he declares) are better than the guys last year.

The senior WR class is also pretty weak this year.

Redeyejedi
08-24-2010, 07:33 PM
The more I look through the 2011 draft the more Im stunned by the depth. A guy like Quan Sturdivant is a first round talent, even if he has a very good year he may not get drafted till like the 3rd round. A guy like Noel Devine much the same. Maybe a 3rd rounder, even if he does run a 4.25 at the combine. Deunta Williams the FS may also not go until the 3rd or later. There are at least 4 senior DEs that are going to be first rounders, maybe 5. And there are a couple juniors that could be 1st round DEs - Robert Quinn specifically. Another pretty good OT class, could be 5 or more taken in the 1st round. The safety class looks relatively weak, at least compared to last year. CB isnt as strong either, not as much depth though the top guys (Amakamara and Peterson if he declares) are better than the guys last year. The senior WR class is also pretty weak this year.I actually think the corners at the top are very strong if the juniors come out but your right the depth isnt there. Safetyhas some nice players atthe top but there is nowhere near the depth as last year. DE is unbelievably strong at the top there are some hulking ends.It will be interesting to me to see what NFL team selects Cameron Heyward and how they use him. Its all underclassman at WR but theres some nice ones Julio Jones,Jonathan Baldwin,AJ Green, Michael Floyd and Devier Posey all listed over 6-3 and all run under a 4.5. LB is were the meat of this class is though. Im really hoping the Giants select one to solidy that postion for the next decade. They can still get a good one in the 2nd round

nycsportzfan
08-25-2010, 12:37 AM
The more I look through the 2011 draft the more Im stunned by the depth.

A guy like Quan Sturdivant is a first round talent, even if he has a very good year he may not get drafted till like the 3rd round.

A guy like Noel Devine much the same. Maybe a 3rd rounder, even if he does run a 4.25 at the combine.

Deunta Williams the FS may also not go until the 3rd or later.

There are at least 4 senior DEs that are going to be first rounders, maybe 5. And there are a couple juniors that could be 1st round DEs - Robert Quinn specifically. Another pretty good OT class, could be 5 or more taken in the 1st round.

The safety class looks relatively weak, at least compared to last year. CB isnt as strong either, not as much depth though the top guys (Amakamara and Peterson if he declares) are better than the guys last year.

The senior WR class is also pretty weak this year. Depending on what the Jr's do, this has a great chance of being a deep safety class.. U potentially could have Rahim Moore who had 10ints last yr, Will Hill, Mark Barron, Deunta Williams, Tyler Sash all coming out, i'm sure a couple won't but still, i fully expect at least 3or4 of em 2 declare, with williams being a sr... THen u got some depth with Shiloh Keo of Idaho, and A sleeper of mine, Davonte Shannon of U of Buffalo..

As for OT, i coulden't agree more, its a loaded class! U got this yrs Freak in Nate Solder of COL, u got Anthony Costanzo, u got Big Matt Reynolds of BYU(great future replacement for Kareem), Lee Ziemba, Demarcus Love of ARK, Derrok Sharrod of MISS ST, Nate Potter of Boise St, Marcus Cannon of TCU, Theres a heck of alot of talent there...

Definetly gotta cop one of the Centers, outta Wisnewski, Pouncey, O'Dowd, or Colin Baxter... If we wait till mid rds, Dan Wegner of ND is a guy to look out for.....

LB is loaded, with Chris Gallipo of USC, greg jones of MICH ST., Travis Lewis of OU(my fave LB), Mark Herzlich of BC, Kelvin Sheppard of LSU, Bruce Carter of UNC, moster Sleeper prospect in DONTAY MOCH, who rumour has it, runs a 4.30 40 as a 245 lb LB/DE!!!! Un freaking Real if thats any where near true...

RB's pretty deep with Quizz, Noel Devine, Daniel Thomas of K'ST, Ryan WIlliams or Va Tech, Mark Ingram, and SLEEPERS such as Brandon Saine, and Roy Helu..... Plus Demarco Murray and Evan Royster, almost forgot about them...

TE's kinda weak this yr, with Ky rudolph and Weslye Suanders leading the way....

Guard seems kinda weak as well....

CB is pretty deep as well, could end up with a guy like chimidi chekwa in possibly 3rd rd.. And its deep for sleepers with guys like Johnny Patrick and Darrin Walls in the class...

DE is loaded

Its pretty loaded class right through to be honest, almost as loaded as last yrs class, of course, the JR"s will play a part in how deep the class really is, but on potential, MY LORD! It should be fun...

gmen0820
08-25-2010, 01:16 AM
Obviously I'm a huge fan of Julio jones (I've had this sig since late 2007), BUT, wr should not be the pick. I'm a huge fan of Allen Bailey, Bruce Carter, and Cameron heyward. I think the giants need to start drafting a few defensive tackles that can also play the 5-tech or an athletic nose tackle (think jay Ratliff), because I really feel we will be changing too a 3-4 within the next 3 to 4 years.

Either way though I think the pick needs to be defensive line. The middle of the defensive line downright scares me. I love the potential of linval Joseph but after him... Canty has really impressed me but at the end of the day is he our 3-tech? Barry cofield is probably going to leave, for some reason I feel there's bad blood between him and nyg. Alford had major knee surgery and if he ever recovers, idk. Rocky Bernard, I've never in my life see a big guy likethay get absolutely manhandled so much and then make a decent play, he's like haynesworth but haynesworth actually gets attention from an offensive line.

Armstead#98
08-25-2010, 02:55 AM
LSU CB Patrick Peterson in Round 1 is who I want

Redeyejedi
08-25-2010, 06:46 AM
LSU CB Patrick Peterson in Round 1 is who I want
Right now I would say we have pretty much no chance at him or Akamura. I think both could go in the top 15 or higher. U never know though players drop all the time from the start to the end of the season. He doesnt seem like a guy that will though.I think there are some good underclassman corners if to chose from after those 2 if they decide to come out.

nycsportzfan
08-25-2010, 09:59 AM
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run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in front of their faces.
But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html)
had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the
fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked
a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made
him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in
4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by
only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1,
245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has
freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said.
"Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he
puts his mind to it, he's unstoppable." Moch smiles when asked about
that junior pro day this summer when he awed the NFL scouts with his
speed. And the distressing thing for offensive linemen is that Moch, the
reigning WAC defensive player of the year, is now tapping his
potential. – The Reno Gazette-Journal

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Armstead#98
08-25-2010, 01:14 PM
LSU CB Patrick Peterson in Round 1 is who I want
Right now I would say we have pretty much no chance at him or Akamura. I think both could go in the top 15 or higher. U never know though players drop all the time from the start to the end of the season. He doesnt seem like a guy that will though.I think there are some good underclassman corners if to chose from after those 2 if they decide to come out.
It wouldn't surprise me if he went top 15.. He is built like a super CB... 200 lbs very strong, ripped and with great speed/ coverage ability
He locked Julio Jones up when they played Bama
He is my fav.. player in next yrs draft

nycsportzfan
08-25-2010, 02:09 PM
LSU CB Patrick Peterson in Round 1 is who I want
Right now I would say we have pretty much no chance at him or Akamura. I think both could go in the top 15 or higher. U never know though players drop all the time from the start to the end of the season. He doesnt seem like a guy that will though.I think there are some good underclassman corners if to chose from after those 2 if they decide to come out.
It wouldn't surprise me if he went top 15.. He is built like a super CB... 200 lbs very strong, ripped and with great speed/ coverage ability
He locked Julio Jones up when they played Bama
He is my fav.. player in next yrs draft
another sick CB with great size, is Ras I dowling of Virginia.. He was pretty much a Shoe in For RD 1 if he would've come out this past season, a beastly Corner who is very competitive.. I wonder where he'll be in the mix for top Corners this yr...

Armstead#98
08-25-2010, 05:24 PM
LSU CB Patrick Peterson in Round 1 is who I want
Right now I would say we have pretty much no chance at him or Akamura. I think both could go in the top 15 or higher. U never know though players drop all the time from the start to the end of the season. He doesnt seem like a guy that will though.I think there are some good underclassman corners if to chose from after those 2 if they decide to come out.
It wouldn't surprise me if he went top 15.. He is built like a super CB... 200 lbs very strong, ripped and with great speed/ coverage ability
He locked Julio Jones up when they played Bama
He is my fav.. player in next yrs draft
another sick CB with great size, is Ras I dowling of Virginia.. He was pretty much a Shoe in For RD 1 if he would've come out this past season, a beastly Corner who is very competitive.. I wonder where he'll be in the mix for top Corners this yr...

Yeah but I don't think Dowling is as fast or as polished technique wise as Patrick Peterson.. Peterson reminds me a whole lot of Darelle Revis.. Peterson is very special

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<SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">They were the ones who timed the run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in front of their faces. But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html) had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in 4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1, 245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said. "Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he puts his mind to it, he's unstoppable." Moch smiles when asked about that junior pro day this summer when he awed the NFL scouts with his speed. And the distressing thing for offensive linemen is that Moch, the reigning WAC defensive player of the year, is now tapping his potential. – The Reno Gazette-Journal

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nycsportzfan
08-25-2010, 10:50 PM
LSU CB Patrick Peterson in Round 1 is who I want
Right now I would say we have pretty much no chance at him or Akamura. I think both could go in the top 15 or higher. U never know though players drop all the time from the start to the end of the season. He doesnt seem like a guy that will though.I think there are some good underclassman corners if to chose from after those 2 if they decide to come out.
It wouldn't surprise me if he went top 15.. He is built like a super CB... 200 lbs very strong, ripped and with great speed/ coverage ability
He locked Julio Jones up when they played Bama
He is my fav.. player in next yrs draft
another sick CB with great size, is Ras I dowling of Virginia.. He was pretty much a Shoe in For RD 1 if he would've come out this past season, a beastly Corner who is very competitive.. I wonder where he'll be in the mix for top Corners this yr...

Yeah but I don't think Dowling is as fast or as polished technique wise as Patrick Peterson.. Peterson reminds me a whole lot of Darelle Revis.. Peterson is very special


i don't know if hes as good as peterson, i just said, its another sick CB, who would've been gone RD 1 last yr, so i'm assuming, this yr, hes even better... Ras I dowling is extremley athletic, very physical, and makes alot of plays on the ball, and is a Solid Corner against the RUN as well.. I wasen't comparing him to Peterson, who i still have much to learn about...

nycsportzfan
08-25-2010, 10:54 PM
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">They were the ones who timed the run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in front of their faces. But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html) had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in 4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1, 245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said. "Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he puts his mind to it, he's unstoppable." Moch smiles when asked about that junior pro day this summer when he awed the NFL scouts with his speed. And the distressing thing for offensive linemen is that Moch, the reigning WAC defensive player of the year, is now tapping his potential. – The Reno Gazette-Journal

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U think this is true a 245 pound guy that runs like that. I wish they had some video of him. I guess I will have to watch a Nevada game now</p> well, its on about 20 diffrent websites, and there were tons of scouts there, and they kept making him run the thing, because they thought they were getting bad reads on there stop watches, and he kept it up the whole time.. Also, if u check diffrent draft sites, you'll see a Arrow pointing UP, for stock rising ever since this happened.. It happened, basically...lol Definetly keeping a Eye on Him, and there QB as well, hes a Good Looking Prospect as well, Kapernick.. Kapenick actually rushed for 200plus yds and 4tds in one game against IDAHO..lol And had another game where he ran for 173yds and so on and so fourth.. Oh ya, he also threw 20tds and had only 6picks.. And he has good size, all though, a Little on the Skinny Side.. Definetly a Guy i could see going pretty High, not rd 1, but at least top 3rds...

listenup
08-26-2010, 02:01 AM
Some real good info in this thread.Good job fellas.

Redeyejedi
08-26-2010, 06:40 AM
Obviously I'm a huge fan of Julio jones (I've had this sig since late 2007), BUT, wr should not be the pick. I'm a huge fan of Allen Bailey, Bruce Carter, and Cameron heyward. I think the giants need to start drafting a few defensive tackles that can also play the 5-tech or an athletic nose tackle (think jay Ratliff), because I really feel we will be changing too a 3-4 within the next 3 to 4 years. Either way though I think the pick needs to be defensive line. The middle of the defensive line downright scares me. I love the potential of linval Joseph but after him... Canty has really impressed me but at the end of the day is he our 3-tech? Barry cofield is probably going to leave, for some reason I feel there's bad blood between him and nyg. Alford had major knee surgery and if he ever recovers, idk. Rocky Bernard, I've never in my life see a big guy likethay get absolutely manhandled so much and then make a decent play, he's like haynesworth but haynesworth actually gets attention from an offensive line.I agree with U about DT. I see 2 guys on this roster that will be around for the next few years. It all depends on what happens with the CBA and how many years till FA

thegreatone
08-26-2010, 09:02 AM
love bruce carter. from the same town high school as me and guy whimper. ive been watching him since he was a freshman for the havelock rams and this kid is gonna be special. think jon beason

nycsportzfan
08-26-2010, 09:27 AM
love bruce carter. from the same town high school as me and guy whimper. ive been watching him since he was a freshman for the havelock rams and this kid is gonna be special. think jon beason
ya, i love bruce carter myself, i gotta feeling hes gonna be pushing for the TOP 10 this yr, and if not, top 15, so i actually hope we cant get em.. Dude is No JOKE!



On the other Hand, if we can get our Hands on Travis Lewis, that would make me one Happy Fella..

nycsportzfan
08-26-2010, 10:24 AM
Another Crop of Kids to keep a Eye on, in this incredibly Deep Class(could it be deeper then last yr?)



Uconn LB's
Lawerence Wilson 6ft 1inch 226lb's- This kids a stud! Don't be surprised to see him as high as RD 2 by seasons end. Coming off 140tackle 5sack 11TFL season, Wowsers! 1st team All Big East, and is pretty much on every watch list thats out there.. He will right outta gates be one of my Favorite Not RD 1 guys to follow, that weirder things have happened, could sneak into rd 1 if he gets close to duplicating any of his success from last yr...

Scott Lutrus 6ft 3in 245lb- Leader of Defense, going into 2nd yr as Team Cap, and would of had 3rd straight season with 100plus tackles if not for Injury that cost him alittle time. He just makes plays and is involved almost all the time, very active player, who will certainly be drafted..

Greg Lloyd jr. 6ft 2inch 259lb- Obviously, hes got the Bloodlines, but he also can play some.. Supposedly is moving to DE from LB this season, which should be fun to watch. A guy who can get after it for sure, and is posied for a sensational season in a Stacked Defense..

hammersavage
08-26-2010, 05:38 PM
Our look:

<font size="4">2011 NFL Draft Pre-Season Preview: Inside Linebacker (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/08/2011-nfl-draft-preseason-preview-inside-linebacker.html)</font>

thegreatone
08-27-2010, 09:19 AM
love bruce carter. from the same town high school as me and guy whimper. ive been watching him since he was a freshman for the havelock rams and this kid is gonna be special. think jon beason
ya, i love bruce carter myself, i gotta feeling hes gonna be pushing for the TOP 10 this yr, and if not, top 15, so i actually hope we cant get em.. Dude is No JOKE!



On the other Hand, if we can get our Hands on Travis Lewis, that would make me one Happy Fella..

yeah i was thinking top 15 as well so out of our reach but with the depth of this years class we should come away with a good one somewhere.

slipknottin
08-27-2010, 01:04 PM
love bruce carter. from the same town high school as me and guy whimper. ive been watching him since he was a freshman for the havelock rams and this kid is gonna be special. think jon beason
ya, i love bruce carter myself, i gotta feeling hes gonna be pushing for the TOP 10 this yr, and if not, top 15, so i actually hope we cant get em.. Dude is No JOKE!



On the other Hand, if we can get our Hands on Travis Lewis, that would make me one Happy Fella..

yeah i was thinking top 15 as well so out of our reach but with the depth of this years class we should come away with a good one somewhere.


Bruce Carter may be getting kicked off the team, may have a huge impact on his draft status.

gmen0820
08-27-2010, 01:39 PM
If Bruce Carter gets kicked off the team he would still probably go first round just because there is already so much game tape on him and if he stays in shape there's not much of a choice. See: dez Bryant.

slipknottin
08-27-2010, 01:47 PM
If Bruce Carter gets kicked off the team he would still probably go first round just because there is already so much game tape on him and if he stays in shape there's not much of a choice. See: dez Bryant.

Dez Bryant fell almost the entire round though. 24th overall pick instead of top 10 pick.

Could be the same issue for a guy like Carter. Going end of the 1st round to a team like the giants instead of top 10.

thegreatone
08-27-2010, 03:37 PM
i cant see bruce caught up in that BS....this sucks

gmen0820
09-06-2010, 02:20 AM
Janorice Jenkins looked very good too. Ill be keeping my eye on him as the season progresses. I'd like to see him tested by better QBs', or competition for that matter, but kid looks promising.

Redeyejedi
09-06-2010, 09:31 PM
Austin Pettis already has a TD and a blocked punt and the game is 5 minutes old.

nycsportzfan
09-06-2010, 09:47 PM
Austin Pettis already has a TD and a blocked punt and the game is 5 minutes old. Dudes, no joke! U know how much i like him...

hammersavage
09-07-2010, 01:54 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?

nycsportzfan
09-07-2010, 07:12 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...

Redeyejedi
09-07-2010, 07:31 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
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This sux we r going to lose this thread in a week we will have to start a whole new one . Maybe I will copy and paste it </P>

Redeyejedi
09-07-2010, 07:31 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
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This sux we r going to lose this thread in a week we will have to start a whole new one . Maybe I will copy and paste it </P>

gmen0820
09-07-2010, 08:39 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring.* If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
* I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking...* He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
I wouldn't want solder. Too much developing. Gabe carimi is good, but mark Ingram is a very special player and has a great work ethic.

hammersavage
09-07-2010, 09:40 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
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This sux we r going to lose this thread in a week we will have to start a whole new one . Maybe I will copy and paste it </p>

why is that?

BigBlueChip
09-07-2010, 11:05 PM
Agreed, Ingram is an absolute stud with natural running skills.

I work on the site that post is from with hammersavage and will be updating that list frequently throughout the year.

We would love some feedback from Giants fans, especially ones into the draft. Stop by and leave some comments. Everyones imput is welcome.

nycsportzfan
09-07-2010, 11:42 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
I wouldn't want solder. Too much developing. Gabe carimi is good, but mark Ingram is a very special player and has a great work ethic. Well, lets see how he does this yr, before we say, hes got to much developing to do.. Thats why i said, I want to Actually See him play, and see how he looks, and if he looks like a Natural, and if he looks like he can help quickly or not.. As u see, he Played 850 Snaps at LT last yr, and will get the same this yr, if he stays healthy, thats 2yrs of playing LT on a every game basis, and in Practice, thats a Heck of a lot of Playing LT.. He also was already Successful, which is a Good sign, getting ALL BIG 12 honors at the positon... Agai, i want to see him play, but lets not forget, how good hes already been, and how many snaps and games and pracitce and coaching up hes gonna have by the time the Draft Gets Here, and then he gets a Training Camp and Pre Season on top of that, before the 2011 Season begins....

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<font face="Cambria, serif"><font size="2">AT COLORADO: This Season (Sr.)-CU's
starting left tackle, he is CU's most decorated in the preseason since
2006 (PK Mason Crosby). His top honor was being named to the
prestigious Playboy Preseason All-America team; he also earned first-team honors from The Kickoff and Consensus Draft Services, second-team mention from Lindy's Big 12 Football and Phil Steele's College Football,
and third-team from Athlon and CFI. A unanimous preseason All-Big 12
selection, he is also one of 63 players on the watch list for the
Outland Trophy and one of 75 for the Lombardi Award. Rivals.com ranked
him as the No. 72 player overall (all positions) in the nation, while
Lindy's rated him as the No. 3 offensive tackle, with Phil Steele
tabbing him No. 7 on that same list. ESPN.com ranked him as the No. 5
"freak" in the nation as far as conditioning is concerned; with less
than 7 percent body fat on his frame, he power-cleans 415 pounds (for
three reps), hang-cleans 473 (also three reps), owns a 4.88 time in the
40 and a 32-inch vertical jump. Those numbers helped him earn the
team's Iron Buffalo Award for the second straight year for all offensive
linemen. He was also a co-recipient of the Greg Biekert Award for
attention to detail.</font></font>


<font face="Cambria, serif"><font size="2">2009 (Jr.)-Started
all 12 games at left tackle, playing 850 snaps on offense (all but two
of the team total). He earned first-team All-Big 12 honors from the
league coaches (honorable mention from the Associated Press),
and was a fourth-team All-American by College Football Insiders; he also
earned first-team All-Colorado honors from the state's chapter of the
National Football Foundation. </font></font></p>


<font face="Cambria, serif" size="2">He graded out to exactly 90.0
percent for the season, a team-best, and over 80 percent for all 12
games and 90 percent or better seven times; his top grade was 96 percent
at Oklahoma State. He also led the team with 97 finishing/knockdown
blocks and seven touchdown blacks. He allowed just three quarterback
sacks and four pressures, while being called for five penalties. He was
named for the second straight year as one of the recipients of the
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Redeyejedi
09-08-2010, 07:02 AM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
I wouldn't want solder. Too much developing. Gabe carimi is good, but mark Ingram is a very special player and has a great work ethic. Well, lets see how he does this yr, before we say, hes got to much developing to do.. Thats why i said, I want to Actually See him play, and see how he looks, and if he looks like a Natural, and if he looks like he can help quickly or not.. As u see, he Played 850 Snaps at LT last yr, and will get the same this yr, if he stays healthy, thats 2yrs of playing LT on a every game basis, and in Practice, thats a Heck of a lot of Playing LT.. He also was already Successful, which is a Good sign, getting ALL BIG 12 honors at the positon... Agai, i want to see him play, but lets not forget, how good hes already been, and how many snaps and games and pracitce and coaching up hes gonna have by the time the Draft Gets Here, and then he gets a Training Camp and Pre Season on top of that, before the 2011 Season begins....


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He is intriguing but he needs to put on a good amount of weight. He is way to skinny and does not have a solid enough base. His techniue isnt vey good , he is a bit of a project. I think he does have some tremendous potiental though. I think he is a 3rd round pick right now. If he improves though he could get into the first. To me this is an underwhelming tackle class at the very top. I think there are some nice tackles but not sure if there are elite top 10 ones. Its early though Im sure someone will step up and separatefrom the pack. I didnt think Nate Potter played all that well against VT. Hewas beaten badly off the edge on a couple occasions and knocked the ball out of Moores hands on other.</P>

nycsportzfan
09-08-2010, 08:19 AM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
I wouldn't want solder. Too much developing. Gabe carimi is good, but mark Ingram is a very special player and has a great work ethic. Well, lets see how he does this yr, before we say, hes got to much developing to do.. Thats why i said, I want to Actually See him play, and see how he looks, and if he looks like a Natural, and if he looks like he can help quickly or not.. As u see, he Played 850 Snaps at LT last yr, and will get the same this yr, if he stays healthy, thats 2yrs of playing LT on a every game basis, and in Practice, thats a Heck of a lot of Playing LT.. He also was already Successful, which is a Good sign, getting ALL BIG 12 honors at the positon... Agai, i want to see him play, but lets not forget, how good hes already been, and how many snaps and games and pracitce and coaching up hes gonna have by the time the Draft Gets Here, and then he gets a Training Camp and Pre Season on top of that, before the 2011 Season begins....


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He is intriguing but he needs to put on a good amount of weight. He is way to skinny and does not have a solid enough base. His techniue isnt vey good , he is a bit of a project. I think he does have some tremendous potiental though. I think he is a 3rd round pick right now. If he improves though he could get into the first. To me this is an underwhelming tackle class at the very top. I think there are some nice tackles but not sure if there are elite top 10 ones. Its early though Im sure someone will step up and separatefrom the pack. I didnt think Nate Potter played all that well against VT. Hewas beaten badly off the edge on a couple occasions and knocked the ball out of Moores hands on other.</p> If this kid plays as good as he did last yr, with his measurables, hes a shoe in for RD 2, in my opinion, and i will go out on a limb, and say, hes gonna be a RD 1 guy, especially after he destroys the Combine.. And, the best part is, it won't be after a So So career, it'll be after most likley back to back All BIG 12, and most likley, a All AMerican season.. Of Course, i'm projecting alot, because the Seasons very young, but it's hard to imagine him not being better then his 1st yr of Playing LT and still garnering all big 12.... We seen guys put on wt pretty easily when they need 2, and if he gets up to 323 or so, i'm more then happy with his WT... THat shoulden't be 2hard for him.. I'm pretty Excited about Him, and he's a Guy i'm gonna be following all season long, and i guess, we shall see... He is the Reigning IORN BUFFALO award winner....lol

I love the Stats on his Knock Down Blocks and TD BLOCKS, and the Grading System.. He had a pretty Big yr, being his First Yr at the positon.. I totally understand why theres so much Hype with this kid, it makes sense...

Redeyejedi
09-08-2010, 06:39 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
I wouldn't want solder. Too much developing. Gabe carimi is good, but mark Ingram is a very special player and has a great work ethic. Well, lets see how he does this yr, before we say, hes got to much developing to do.. Thats why i said, I want to Actually See him play, and see how he looks, and if he looks like a Natural, and if he looks like he can help quickly or not.. As u see, he Played 850 Snaps at LT last yr, and will get the same this yr, if he stays healthy, thats 2yrs of playing LT on a every game basis, and in Practice, thats a Heck of a lot of Playing LT.. He also was already Successful, which is a Good sign, getting ALL BIG 12 honors at the positon... Agai, i want to see him play, but lets not forget, how good hes already been, and how many snaps and games and pracitce and coaching up hes gonna have by the time the Draft Gets Here, and then he gets a Training Camp and Pre Season on top of that, before the 2011 Season begins....


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<TD class="sm PlayerBioArticleContent" colSpan=2><FONT face="Cambria, serif"><FONT size=2>AT COLORADO: This Season (Sr.)-CU's starting left tackle, he is CU's most decorated in the preseason since 2006 (PK Mason Crosby). His top honor was being named to the prestigious Playboy Preseason All-America team; he also earned first-team honors from The Kickoff and Consensus Draft Services, second-team mention from Lindy's Big 12 Football and Phil Steele's College Football, and third-team from Athlon and CFI. A unanimous preseason All-Big 12 selection, he is also one of 63 players on the watch list for the Outland Trophy and one of 75 for the Lombardi Award. Rivals.com ranked him as the No. 72 player overall (all positions) in the nation, while Lindy's rated him as the No. 3 offensive tackle, with Phil Steele tabbing him No. 7 on that same list. ESPN.com ranked him as the No. 5 "freak" in the nation as far as conditioning is concerned; with less than 7 percent body fat on his frame, he power-cleans 415 pounds (for three reps), hang-cleans 473 (also three reps), owns a 4.88 time in the 40 and a 32-inch vertical jump. Those numbers helped him earn the team's Iron Buffalo Award for the second straight year for all offensive linemen. He was also a co-recipient of the Greg Biekert Award for attention to detail.</FONT></FONT>


<FONT face="Cambria, serif"><FONT size=2>2009 (Jr.)-Started all 12 games at left tackle, playing 850 snaps on offense (all but two of the team total). He earned first-team All-Big 12 honors from the league coaches (honorable mention from the Associated Press), and was a fourth-team All-American by College Football Insiders; he also earned first-team All-Colorado honors from the state's chapter of the National Football Foundation. </FONT></FONT></P>


<FONT face="Cambria, serif" size=2>He graded out to exactly 90.0 percent for the season, a team-best, and over 80 percent for all 12 games and 90 percent or better seven times; his top grade was 96 percent at Oklahoma State. He also led the team with 97 finishing/knockdown blocks and seven touchdown blacks. He allowed just three quarterback sacks and four pressures, while being called for five penalties. He was named for the second straight year as one of the recipients of the team's Gold Group Commitment Award which recognizes excellence with class in a variety of areas. For spring practice, he was the recipient of the John Wooten Award for outstanding work ethic, and was the Iron Buffalo Award winner among the offensive lineman, given to those at each position who represent hard work, dedication, toughness and total poundage lifted in the weight room.</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



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He is intriguing but he needs to put on a good amount of weight. He is way to skinny and does not have a solid enough base. His techniue isnt vey good , he is a bit of a project. I think he does have some tremendous potiental though. I think he is a 3rd round pick right now. If he improves though he could get into the first. To me this is an underwhelming tackle class at the very top. I think there are some nice tackles but not sure if there are elite top 10 ones. Its early though Im sure someone will step up and separatefrom the pack. I didnt think Nate Potter played all that well against VT. Hewas beaten badly off the edge on a couple occasions and knocked the ball out of Moores hands on other.</P>


If this kid plays as good as he did last yr, with his measurables, hes a shoe in for RD 2, in my opinion, and i will go out on a limb, and say, hes gonna be a RD 1 guy, especially after he destroys the Combine.. And, the best part is, it won't be after a So So career, it'll be after most likley back to back All BIG 12, and most likley, a All AMerican season.. Of Course, i'm projecting alot, because the Seasons very young, but it's hard to imagine him not being better then his 1st yr of Playing LT and still garnering all big 12.... We seen guys put on wt pretty easily when they need 2, and if he gets up to 323 or so, i'm more then happy with his WT... THat shoulden't be 2hard for him.. I'm pretty Excited about Him, and he's a Guy i'm gonna be following all season long, and i guess, we shall see... He is the Reigning IORN BUFFALO award winner....lol

I love the Stats on his Knock Down Blocks and TD BLOCKS, and the Grading System.. He had a pretty Big yr, being his First Yr at the positon.. I totally understand why theres so much Hype with this kid, it makes sense...
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He is certainly an intriguing prospect. I would like to see his arm measurements. 6'9" is only useful if his arms are long as well. If he has short armsand is on the light side for his height he will be able to be pushed around fairly easily. If he gets up to like 335 on that frame with long arms he could be downright nasty.</P>

nycsportzfan
09-08-2010, 10:11 PM
Here's our BigBlueBoard. (http://www.bigbluechip.com/my-blog/2010/09/big-blue-board.html)

The top 10 players we want to see as Giants next Spring. If they had the 15th spot in the draft as they did last year.

Thoughts?
I like Nate Solder myself, i'm looking forward to seeing if he totally dominates all yr long, and uses his Overwhelming Athletic Ability and FREAKY measurables to get into the top 10 talk, or if we have a chance to secure him, where ever we end up picking... He Reminds me of Bruce Campbell, as far as this Yr's "freak".. I am very eager to see how he plays on the Field, i want to see him play another words...
I wouldn't want solder. Too much developing. Gabe carimi is good, but mark Ingram is a very special player and has a great work ethic. Well, lets see how he does this yr, before we say, hes got to much developing to do.. Thats why i said, I want to Actually See him play, and see how he looks, and if he looks like a Natural, and if he looks like he can help quickly or not.. As u see, he Played 850 Snaps at LT last yr, and will get the same this yr, if he stays healthy, thats 2yrs of playing LT on a every game basis, and in Practice, thats a Heck of a lot of Playing LT.. He also was already Successful, which is a Good sign, getting ALL BIG 12 honors at the positon... Agai, i want to see him play, but lets not forget, how good hes already been, and how many snaps and games and pracitce and coaching up hes gonna have by the time the Draft Gets Here, and then he gets a Training Camp and Pre Season on top of that, before the 2011 Season begins....


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He is intriguing but he needs to put on a good amount of weight. He is way to skinny and does not have a solid enough base. His techniue isnt vey good , he is a bit of a project. I think he does have some tremendous potiental though. I think he is a 3rd round pick right now. If he improves though he could get into the first. To me this is an underwhelming tackle class at the very top. I think there are some nice tackles but not sure if there are elite top 10 ones. Its early though Im sure someone will step up and separatefrom the pack. I didnt think Nate Potter played all that well against VT. Hewas beaten badly off the edge on a couple occasions and knocked the ball out of Moores hands on other.</p>


If this kid plays as good as he did last yr, with his measurables, hes a shoe in for RD 2, in my opinion, and i will go out on a limb, and say, hes gonna be a RD 1 guy, especially after he destroys the Combine.. And, the best part is, it won't be after a So So career, it'll be after most likley back to back All BIG 12, and most likley, a All AMerican season.. Of Course, i'm projecting alot, because the Seasons very young, but it's hard to imagine him not being better then his 1st yr of Playing LT and still garnering all big 12.... We seen guys put on wt pretty easily when they need 2, and if he gets up to 323 or so, i'm more then happy with his WT... THat shoulden't be 2hard for him.. I'm pretty Excited about Him, and he's a Guy i'm gonna be following all season long, and i guess, we shall see... He is the Reigning IORN BUFFALO award winner....lol

I love the Stats on his Knock Down Blocks and TD BLOCKS, and the Grading System.. He had a pretty Big yr, being his First Yr at the positon.. I totally understand why theres so much Hype with this kid, it makes sense...
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He is certainly an intriguing prospect. I would like to see his arm measurements. 6'9" is only useful if his arms are long as well. If he has short armsand is on the light side for his height he will be able to be pushed around fairly easily. If he gets up to like 335 on that frame with long arms he could be downright nasty.</p> The one thing about him, is hes all muscle, and has very little body fat.. So, i don't think hes the type thats gonna become like a FAT lineman, hes gonna be the Agile, Strong, mover, if u will.. In those videos, u can tell in his regular clothes, that hes ripped.... He seems like a guy whos gonna always be in Fantastic Shape, and really takes his body seriously.. He got 5th in the ESPN "FREAK" list, an it says, as far as Conditoning is concerned.. Also, i love seeing that Bikert award, thats for Attention To Detail, which could explain, being ALL big 12 in his first Yr as a Starting LT.. You get that kinda Athletic Physique and Strength, and add in, a willingness to learn and pay attention, and u are on to something...

We shall See.... Who Peaks your interest the most in the country as far as wanting to see and just no more.. Not a Patrick Peterson type guy, but maybe a Guy whos got the pysical attributes or that you've read about, and his potential intrigues you, and u really want to get a chance to see live?

Armstead#98
09-08-2010, 10:24 PM
6'9 is to tall.. How is he going to get leverage on all the small speed rushers in today's NFL

Redeyejedi
09-08-2010, 10:55 PM
6'9 is to tall.. How is he going to get leverage on all the small speed rushers in today's NFL
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Kind of my thought as well that its almost 2 tall. He actually handles speed rushers well because he is very athletic and can defend the corner. He is more susceptible to inside rushers.In my eyes he needs to pack on at least 30 pounds. Bull rushing strong ends would be able to get under his shoulders and push him back into the QB on a consistent basis in the NFL. There is no way his anchor is good at that height and weight. He moves around well so getting to the second level in run blocking should be no problem its just his strength at the POA that is a real question mark with him. He looks like a OT that should go to a zone blocking heavy system. I think he is intriguing though and a guy to keep an eye on. I think he is a little bit of a project. I think he is a 3rd round pick at the moment but I could see him going higher. I dont think there is a real dominant tackle in this class. Theres good depth but Im not crazy about any of them at the moment. Im sure as the CFB season wears on that will change</P>

nycsportzfan
09-09-2010, 09:11 AM
6'9 is to tall.. How is he going to get leverage on all the small speed rushers in today's NFL
Easy.. He counters Speed, with Speed. Hes very fast, and gets out of his Stance, very quickly.. If anything, the fast speed rushers, is the guys, he will excel against.. The only worry, i'd have, is against the smalle(6ft 2inch-or 6ft 3inch) stocky strong DE's, because of Leverege.. But, the guys very strong, bench press's a Truck Load, and is a very qucik learner... Hes not gonna get Fat, because hes not that type of guy, he keeps himself in way to good of shape, to gain heavy, Chunky weight.. He definetly has strength though, hes all muscle, again, very similar to Bruce Campbell, as far as Body Type and Athletiscim, except, by the end of the yr, if he stays healthy, he'll have better on field success, and more starts.. I think he'll dominate, just based on how well, he did last yr, and usually guys get better, and if he dominates on the field, and lights it up at the combine, hes going in RD 1... Theres really gotta be something said, for a Guy, who plays a New Positon, and instantly dominates it, in his 1st yr there.. Obviously, hes gonna just get better and better the more he learns, Skys the limit with this kid....

nycsportzfan
09-09-2010, 09:54 AM
Just Read what this kids done so far in his career, at the LT positon, its amazing, seeing how hes litteraly moved there in 2008, after being recurtied as a TE... And for any worried about his Weight, he Gained 30lb's very quickly, just to be playing LT for Spring Practice 2008... I thought last yr, was his first Yr playing LT, but it was in fact, 2008.... This dudes a beast! Graded out at 98.8 against Kansas St in 2008, which is amazing, and the highest grading for a Col Lineman since freaking 1990!!! ANd, Hes Given Up only 4sacks in 1693snaps, think about that, for a second.. Learns a new positon, and over the last 2yrs, hes had a total of 1693snaps, and given up 4sacks total!! WOW!! Extremley Smart kid, picked as 1of 30 canadites from Div 1, for some award(forgot what), combining excellence on field and in classroom... Obviously, all u have to do, is look up at what i posted on him, to see what hes accomplished in the Weight Room and with a 32inch Vertical, not to mention, he runs a 4.88 40... I watched some tape on him, and seeing him motor around, is amazing, he was so freaking quick.. His strength coach, said hes a Natural Knee Bender, and the best knee bender on the buffalo team.. He was the only Non Sr, on the ALL Big 12 team last yr.. The more you learn, the more you like..



Even after all this, i don't know enough, or have seen enough, but he gets alot of rave reviews around the web, and theres alot to his resume already.. This kids good, that much i know... Again, 4sacks in 1693snaps!

Redeyejedi
09-09-2010, 08:41 PM
6'9 is to tall.. How is he going to get leverage on all the small speed rushers in today's NFL
Easy.. He counters Speed, with Speed. Hes very fast, and gets out of his Stance, very quickly.. <FONT size=5>If anything, the fast speed rushers, is the guys, he will excel against.. The only worry, i'd have, is against the smalle(6ft 2inch-or 6ft 3inch) stocky strong DE's, because of Leverege</FONT>.. But, the guys very strong, bench press's a Truck Load, and is a very qucik learner... Hes not gonna get Fat, because hes not that type of guy, he keeps himself in way to good of shape, to gain heavy, Chunky weight.. He definetly has strength though, hes all muscle, again, very similar to Bruce Campbell, as far as Body Type and Athletiscim, except, by the end of the yr, if he stays healthy, he'll have better on field success, and more starts.. I think he'll dominate, just based on how well, he did last yr, and usually guys get better, and if he dominates on the field, and lights it up at the combine, hes going in RD 1... Theres really gotta be something said, for a Guy, who plays a New Positon, and instantly dominates it, in his 1st yr there.. Obviously, hes gonna just get better and better the more he learns, Skys the limit with this kid....
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Both of those statements are true. He is very good at defending the corner. He excels at taking the outside away from speed guys. A guy like Justin Tuck strong and good at rushing to the inside is were he has problems</P>

Redeyejedi
09-11-2010, 08:59 AM
Im looking forward to getting a good look at the players from Miami and Ohio State this afternoon. Brandon Saine is a RB I liked a lot last year and he is off to a nice start this season it will be interesting to see how he does against some better competition this week. Anyway here is my list of players to watch for in todays game.</P>


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Round 4-5 Brandon Saine RB Ohio State- At 6-1 219 and a 40 time that has been clocked at 4.35 reportedly "Which I dont buy he is a 4.45 guy" certainly has the nice measurables. He also is a good receiver that the Buckeyes have used out wide at times. Saine is more of a North South runner but by no means is just an in between the tackle mid sizedbruiser. Saines problems have been similar to Andre Browns were he just cant stay healthy. I really like Saine and I think a lot of these other draft sites are sleeping on him as Ive seen him listed as more of a 6th round pick.He will be used in a committee so he wont have eye popping numbers but I could see a YPA at about5.5 yards on 150 carries.Saineprojects as a solid number 2 back in a split carry 2 back system. Saine seems to me like a guy who could be drafted by the Giants I would keep an eye on him.</P>


Top 10 -Cameron Heyward DL-1 o the best players in College Football can do it all along the defensive front. He is scheme versatile he could play in a 3-4 scheme as an end or even some 3 technique in a 4-3 defense as well as LE. While a very nice player I dont think theres much of a chance he lands on the Giants. I see the Patriots with there 2 first round picks being very interested in Heyward</P>


Round 2- Devier Posey WR 205 4.5- Nice sized receiver can play but dont see him as a NY Giant</P>


Round 3- Justin Boren G- All Big 10 first team and a player a like. Dont see where he fits though</P>


Round 4-Ross Hossman WLB- With all of the back up linebackers having question marks anyone with an LB as there listed position is a possibility. </P>


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Miami</P>


Round 2- Brandon Harris CB 5-11 195 4.4 - A player with a very good reputation as coach-able. Harris is only a junior so depending on what he hears from the draft stock committee he may not come out. Aaron Ross has been a huge disappointment and if he doesnt play much again this year it will be time to go in a different direction. The Giants have a history with Hurricane players and if Harris is available in the 2nd round when we select he should be selected. Giant prospect- Good</P>


Round 4 Colin Mccarthy 6-3 242 4.6 OLB-MLB-Mccarthy slides to the middle this year for the Hurricanes. Hs versatility is intriguing to play 3 linebacker spots. Giant prospect - fair</P>


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Round 1-2- Allen Baily 6-4 288 - An athletic freak tweener lineman in a draft thats filled with them. Bailey had a good season last year but im not completely sold on him. I think he needs to bulk up some more and become a DT. The Canes use him a lot at end but I dont see that being an option in the NFL. Some teams may look at him as a 3-4 end prospect but the best thing i think he can do is get up to 305 and become a 3 tech. Giant prospect- Fair</P>


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Round 5- Orlando Franklin 6-7 318 G/RT- Has played some LT but must pundits say he is a guard. Has some raw potential and could maybe fit as a RT.</P>


Round 7 FA- Graig Cooper 6-0 205 4.4 - A nice player but partially tore his ACL so we will have to see how he looks this year. Giants prospect UD</P>


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I would love to see the Giants come away with Brandon Saine and Brandon Harris in the 2011 draft</P>

nycsportzfan
09-11-2010, 03:59 PM
Im looking forward to getting a good look at the players from Miami and Ohio State this afternoon. Brandon Saine is a RB I liked a lot last year and he is off to a nice start this season it will be interesting to see how he does against some better competition this week. Anyway here is my list of players to watch for in todays game.</p>


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Round 4-5 Brandon Saine RB Ohio State- At 6-1 219 and a 40 time that has been clocked at 4.35 reportedly "Which I dont buy he is a 4.45 guy" certainly has the nice measurables. He also is a good receiver that the Buckeyes have used out wide at times. Saine is more of a North South runner but by no means is just an in between the tackle mid sizedbruiser. Saines problems have been similar to Andre Browns were he just cant stay healthy. I really like Saine and I think a lot of these other draft sites are sleeping on him as Ive seen him listed as more of a 6th round pick.He will be used in a committee so he wont have eye popping numbers but I could see a YPA at about5.5 yards on 150 carries.Saineprojects as a solid number 2 back in a split carry 2 back system. Saine seems to me like a guy who could be drafted by the Giants I would keep an eye on him.</p>


Top 10 -Cameron Heyward DL-1 o the best players in College Football can do it all along the defensive front. He is scheme versatile he could play in a 3-4 scheme as an end or even some 3 technique in a 4-3 defense as well as LE. While a very nice player I dont think theres much of a chance he lands on the Giants. I see the Patriots with there 2 first round picks being very interested in Heyward</p>


Round 2- Devier Posey WR 205 4.5- Nice sized receiver can play but dont see him as a NY Giant</p>


Round 3- Justin Boren G- All Big 10 first team and a player a like. Dont see where he fits though</p>


Round 4-Ross Hossman WLB- With all of the back up linebackers having question marks anyone with an LB as there listed position is a possibility. </p>


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Miami</p>


Round 2- Brandon Harris CB 5-11 195 4.4 - A player with a very good reputation as coach-able. Harris is only a junior so depending on what he hears from the draft stock committee he may not come out. Aaron Ross has been a huge disappointment and if he doesnt play much again this year it will be time to go in a different direction. The Giants have a history with Hurricane players and if Harris is available in the 2nd round when we select he should be selected. Giant prospect- Good</p>


Round 4 Colin Mccarthy 6-3 242 4.6 OLB-MLB-Mccarthy slides to the middle this year for the Hurricanes. Hs versatility is intriguing to play 3 linebacker spots. Giant prospect - fair</p>


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Round 1-2- Allen Baily 6-4 288 - An athletic freak tweener lineman in a draft thats filled with them. Bailey had a good season last year but im not completely sold on him. I think he needs to bulk up some more and become a DT. The Canes use him a lot at end but I dont see that being an option in the NFL. Some teams may look at him as a 3-4 end prospect but the best thing i think he can do is get up to 305 and become a 3 tech. Giant prospect- Fair</p>


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Round 5- Orlando Franklin 6-7 318 G/RT- Has played some LT but must pundits say he is a guard. Has some raw potential and could maybe fit as a RT.</p>


Round 7 FA- Graig Cooper 6-0 205 4.4 - A nice player but partially tore his ACL so we will have to see how he looks this year. Giants prospect UD</p>


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I would love to see the Giants come away with Brandon Saine and Brandon Harris in the 2011 draft</p> I liked Brandon Saine as a Sleeper RB myself, as indicated in one of these COLLEGE/DRAFT threads.. I'll continue to Use Ry Grant as a Player i like him 2.... That game will have alot of studs.. I'll be Watching Notre Dame and Mich go at it, myself... Looking forward to seeing Micahel Floyd build upon a Good 1st Game back from his injury Last wk, and really Explode... I think ND has alot of Prospects that are Sleeper Types, that could be valuable in Mid to late Rds, ala Darrin Walls, Dan Wegner C, Brian Smith LB, Ian WIlliams DT... Michigan has a few i'm interested in seeing as well...

nycsportzfan
09-11-2010, 05:10 PM
Wow, Dayne Crist looked great on 1st drive, and got hurt, tommy rees, a freshman comes in, and the momentum has turned.. Come on Rees!

gmen0820
09-11-2010, 10:09 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.

Armstead#98
09-12-2010, 12:12 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.
He looks great and he is a stud.. He hurt his knee pretty bad last year but he is back to full strength and looking good

gmen0820
09-12-2010, 12:21 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.
He looks great and he is a stud.. He hurt his knee pretty bad last year but he is back to full strength and looking good
Yea I knew about the knee but seeing hi yesterday i was like, wait he can get better than this?!?!

Redeyejedi
09-12-2010, 12:37 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.
He looks great and he is a stud.. He hurt his knee pretty bad last year but he is back to full strength and looking good
Yea I knew about the knee but seeing hi yesterday i was like, wait he can get better than this?!?!</P>


Yeah he still has problems playing in space. Havent watched Alabama much so far this year but they used to play him at DE on passing downs because hewasnt very good in coverage. Not sure how well he projects at MLB inmost 4-3 defenses</P>

Redeyejedi
09-16-2010, 08:02 PM
Schulylar Oordt Northern Iowa 6-6 250- Ive been reading up on the Tight ends in this class and this guy popped out at me. Most sites have him listed as a 7th round draft pick. The thing that stuck out to me is the size and speed combination he possess. Besides Kyle Rudolph he has the best measurements in the class.The TE class is a little thin and there are some defects about a lot of the guys that are considered behind him. Schulylar may be a little raw coming from Northern Iowa but theres a lot of football player to work with. His speed makes him a legitimate threat down the middle of the field. I will be keeping my eye out for him this year</P>

nycsportzfan
09-16-2010, 10:36 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.
He looks great and he is a stud.. He hurt his knee pretty bad last year but he is back to full strength and looking good
Yea I knew about the knee but seeing hi yesterday i was like, wait he can get better than this?!?! I'll laugh my Arse Off if The same people that were all over Rolando McClain, start praising Donta Hightower, who is a beast!

nycsportzfan
09-16-2010, 10:55 PM
NC STATES defense is beasting into Qter 3 vs cincy so far tonight..


Also, a Player we obviously don't need, but WR Jarvis Williams,a 6ft 4inch 219lb sr, is a heck of a player for NC STATE... Guy scored double Digit TD's as a JR, and made a couple sweet catchs in between defenders tongiht, and as i say that, J.Williams drops a easy one deep...lol But, that is todays WR, drop em, and make a play later... WRs this day and age are DROPS and Catches, all mixed in...

nycsportzfan
09-16-2010, 11:18 PM
Schulylar Oordt Northern Iowa 6-6 250- Ive been reading up on the Tight ends in this class and this guy popped out at me. Most sites have him listed as a 7th round draft pick. The thing that stuck out to me is the size and speed combination he possess. Besides Kyle Rudolph he has the best measurements in the class.The TE class is a little thin and there are some defects about a lot of the guys that are considered behind him. Schulylar may be a little raw coming from Northern Iowa but theres a lot of football player to work with. His speed makes him a legitimate threat down the middle of the field. I will be keeping my eye out for him this year</p> U want to talk about a good looking TE, check out NC STATES TE, George Bryan! Talk about hands! There was one play, where Russell Wilson(sick QB, just sick!!!!), had no where to go, on 3rd and Goal, and just threw it up very high to back of the endzone, where only the Big Bryan could get it, and Bryan didnt catch it, but darn if he almost did, which was sensational, to even come close, he got way up there, right with the CB, who jumped as high as he could, and got his hands barley on it, and then came down with ft somehow still in bounds(great awareness), and just missed it! It was splendid, for a guy who made some good catches for the game, and it was said during the broadcast, he had the best hands on the team... Just keep a Eye on him, i think hes got a chance to be a good ball player, and a certain draft pick..


Russell Wilson is 2small probably, but he should get picked up, hes sensational! This kids accuracy is close to best in the Country, out of everyone i've seen, its crazy! Plus, he runs like a RB, and just has that "IT" factor! It'd be a crime if he dont get a chance, look at his career as a whole, its insanity! Hes soo freaking good! Also, a Player in the COL ROCKIES farm system!

gmen0820
09-16-2010, 11:21 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.
He looks great and he is a stud.. He hurt his knee pretty bad last year but he is back to full strength and looking good
Yea I knew about the knee but seeing hi yesterday i was like, wait he can get better than this?!?!* I'll laugh my Arse Off if The same people that were all over Rolando McClain, start praising Donta Hightower, who is a beast!
What do you mean?

nycsportzfan
09-16-2010, 11:25 PM
How does everyone feel about Dont'a Hightower? Kids huge, seems smart and scheme diverse. Any extended info on this kid? He looks great in this game.
He looks great and he is a stud.. He hurt his knee pretty bad last year but he is back to full strength and looking good
Yea I knew about the knee but seeing hi yesterday i was like, wait he can get better than this?!?! I'll laugh my Arse Off if The same people that were all over Rolando McClain, start praising Donta Hightower, who is a beast!
What do you mean? U don't remember all the people that were saying, "rolando's 2slow and don't tackle hard....etc...etc". Well, if there was ever a similar player, its McClain and Hightower... The things said about McClain were comical! people ripping his Highlight reel for godsake..lol Dude was a Beast, and if he were on the board, 100pct we choose him, i honestly believe that...

nycsportzfan
09-16-2010, 11:54 PM
NC STATE has a team this yr! Plain and Simple, they got Players! I don't even know where to start on DEFENSE, mad guys making plays! Nate Irvin, Terrell Manning, CJ Wilson, Lemon...etc...etc Team looks freaking Good! Dominating Cincy! All That said, i'm not talking about for a Big Bowl, but REALLY GOOD, as far as what Nc State usually is!

Redeyejedi
09-17-2010, 12:02 AM
Schulylar Oordt Northern Iowa 6-6 250- Ive been reading up on the Tight ends in this class and this guy popped out at me. Most sites have him listed as a 7th round draft pick. The thing that stuck out to me is the size and speed combination he possess. Besides Kyle Rudolph he has the best measurements in the class.The TE class is a little thin and there are some defects about a lot of the guys that are considered behind him. Schulylar may be a little raw coming from Northern Iowa but theres a lot of football player to work with. His speed makes him a legitimate threat down the middle of the field. I will be keeping my eye out for him this year</P>


U want to talk about a good looking TE, check out NC STATES TE, George Bryan! Talk about hands! There was one play, where Russell Wilson(sick QB, just sick!!!!), had no where to go, on 3rd and Goal, and just threw it up very high to back of the endzone, where only the Big Bryan could get it, and Bryan didnt catch it, but darn if he almost did, which was sensational, to even come close, he got way up there, right with the CB, who jumped as high as he could, and got his hands barley on it, and then came down with ft somehow still in bounds(great awareness), and just missed it! It was splendid, for a guy who made some good catches for the game, and it was said during the broadcast, he had the best hands on the team... Just keep a Eye on him, i think hes got a chance to be a good ball player, and a certain draft pick..


Russell Wilson is 2small probably, but he should get picked up, hes sensational! This kids accuracy is close to best in the Country, out of everyone i've seen, its crazy! Plus, he runs like a RB, and just has that "IT" factor! It'd be a crime if he dont get a chance, look at his career as a whole, its insanity! Hes soo freaking good! Also, a Player in the COL ROCKIES farm system!
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Yeah he is a junior. it is a weak class at TE so he could go pretty high maybe he comes out. He has great size good hands I got no problem with him</P>

Redeyejedi
09-17-2010, 12:15 AM
Ive been thinking of starting a draft website .Im going to start getting some video on some players just in case

nycsportzfan
09-17-2010, 12:41 AM
Schulylar Oordt Northern Iowa 6-6 250- Ive been reading up on the Tight ends in this class and this guy popped out at me. Most sites have him listed as a 7th round draft pick. The thing that stuck out to me is the size and speed combination he possess. Besides Kyle Rudolph he has the best measurements in the class.The TE class is a little thin and there are some defects about a lot of the guys that are considered behind him. Schulylar may be a little raw coming from Northern Iowa but theres a lot of football player to work with. His speed makes him a legitimate threat down the middle of the field. I will be keeping my eye out for him this year</p>


U want to talk about a good looking TE, check out NC STATES TE, George Bryan! Talk about hands! There was one play, where Russell Wilson(sick QB, just sick!!!!), had no where to go, on 3rd and Goal, and just threw it up very high to back of the endzone, where only the Big Bryan could get it, and Bryan didnt catch it, but darn if he almost did, which was sensational, to even come close, he got way up there, right with the CB, who jumped as high as he could, and got his hands barley on it, and then came down with ft somehow still in bounds(great awareness), and just missed it! It was splendid, for a guy who made some good catches for the game, and it was said during the broadcast, he had the best hands on the team... Just keep a Eye on him, i think hes got a chance to be a good ball player, and a certain draft pick..


Russell Wilson is 2small probably, but he should get picked up, hes sensational! This kids accuracy is close to best in the Country, out of everyone i've seen, its crazy! Plus, he runs like a RB, and just has that "IT" factor! It'd be a crime if he dont get a chance, look at his career as a whole, its insanity! Hes soo freaking good! Also, a Player in the COL ROCKIES farm system!
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Yeah he is a junior. it is a weak class at TE so he could go pretty high maybe he comes out. He has great size good hands I got no problem with him</p> Ya, hes got stupdendous Hands! I don't know if he'd be a upgrade over Boss or not, but hes certainly worth a 5th rder or maybe 4th if things go well rest of yr and at Combine.. Not saying, hes coming out, but if he does.. Just guessing, a Guy like him, will probably go back to school, but i could be wrong...

Nc State has players everywhere, thats for sure! That score tonight, was wayyyy closer then it actually was(prevent end of game), they just flat out dominated! Nate Irving is a baller, but he got into a Car Crash, costing him his season last yr, so NFL teams may be weary... Another Freaking Beast they Got, guy who plays like a Freaking Animal, is Audie Cole, a 6ft 5inch LB, who is litteraly everywhere... I can't tell u, how impressed i was with NC STATES Defense... Cincys offense has some talent, and they just ate em up, albeit, without Isaiah Pead, they still had Armon Binns, Marcus barnett, and DJ Woods.. I think there line is alittle weak, but still, they were coming from everywhere... I like what they got to offer the NFL in Mid To Late Rd Draft Picks...

nycsportzfan
09-17-2010, 12:43 AM
Ive been thinking of starting a draft website .Im going to start getting some video on some players just in case cool!

thegreatone
09-17-2010, 05:34 PM
NC STATE has a team this yr! Plain and Simple, they got Players! I don't even know where to start on DEFENSE, mad guys making plays! Nate Irvin, Terrell Manning, CJ Wilson, Lemon...etc...etc Team looks freaking Good! Dominating Cincy! All That said, i'm not talking about for a Big Bowl, but REALLY GOOD, as far as what Nc State usually is!

yeah they are looking good. They put out good players once in awhile (rivers,holt) but this is the best overall ive seen this team in...well..ever.

Redeyejedi
09-18-2010, 10:10 AM
Notre Dame Michigan State tonight. I doubt they let him but Im hoping they let Greg Jones cover Kyle Rudolph a few plays. Id like to see if he has progressed as a pass defender. Rudolph is a good measuring stick on whether he can handle NFL tight ends.

Redeyejedi
09-18-2010, 10:16 AM
I really hope Ross does something this year I really want the Giants tobolster the running game in 2011 draft and if they have to draft a nickel corner high that will take away theability toluxury picka impact RB or TE. Im thinking RT should be addressed and Matt Reynolds and Gabe Carimi especially are good options.

nycsportzfan
09-18-2010, 01:51 PM
Notre Dame Michigan State tonight. I doubt they let him but Im hoping they let Greg Jones cover Kyle Rudolph a few plays. Id like to see if he has progressed as a pass defender. Rudolph is a good measuring stick on whether he can handle NFL tight ends. I got to see alittle bit of Greg Jones in the opening wk.. He has gained weight, and is certainly MLB size now at 240lbs, and he definetly was in on almost every play i seen, which wasen't a ton, but i probably cuaght about 10-15 plays of mich st's defense... I gotta work tonight, and the Yanks are playing the O's with CC going for num 20, so i'll be flipping back and fourth till work...


Rudolph is no freaking joke!

nycsportzfan
09-18-2010, 01:54 PM
UMASS has looked better then Notre Dame and UCONN getting Denard Robinson! There sacking em, and just all over him, hes had a few decent plays, but boy, the UMASS defense is really keeping him at bey! UMASS is soooo freaking underrated! They also Picked him off, the only Turnover that Mich has had this yr! He was actually sacked twice in a row by UMASS..

blueNorange
09-18-2010, 02:48 PM
hopefully the 2011 draft is the time the giants finally draft a linebacker early and who's upside is higher than a 'backup'

nycsportzfan
09-18-2010, 03:21 PM
hopefully the 2011 draft is the time the giants finally draft a linebacker early and who's upside is higher than a 'backup' It depends on how the young LB's do this yr for us... Theres certainly some good ones out there this yr, one of the deepest positons in the country in my opinion.. From Travis Lewis, to Lawerence Wilson, Chris gallipo, Bruce Carter, Sturdivant, k.sheppard and sooo many more...

gmen0820
09-18-2010, 03:54 PM
Mark herzlich. I wouldn't mind him, no matter what round he goes. If he goes high, god bless him, low, great project player. This all depends on Goff's performance this year. Either way, Herzlich is one of my favorite players.

Redeyejedi
09-18-2010, 04:06 PM
hopefully the 2011 draft is the time the giants finally draft a linebacker early and who's upside is higher than a 'backup' It depends on how the young LB's do this yr for us... Theres certainly some good ones out there this yr, one of the deepest positons in the country in my opinion.. From Travis Lewis, to Lawerence Wilson, Chris gallipo, Bruce Carter, Sturdivant, k.sheppard and sooo many more...
Yeah we will see at the end of the year. I still think we will need one high but maybe itsan OLBnot MLB. There wil be some good players at LB in round 2. I want are run offense fortified a RT, a RB with break away speed and a TE. Im hoping we dont need a nickel corner . I would love the Giants to have a pick they can use on a speed guy that can do a bunch of things but if they have needs at MLB and CB they wont have the luxury to pick a nice TE or do everything guy

nycsportzfan
09-18-2010, 04:30 PM
hopefully the 2011 draft is the time the giants finally draft a linebacker early and who's upside is higher than a 'backup' It depends on how the young LB's do this yr for us... Theres certainly some good ones out there this yr, one of the deepest positons in the country in my opinion.. From Travis Lewis, to Lawerence Wilson, Chris gallipo, Bruce Carter, Sturdivant, k.sheppard and sooo many more...
Yeah we will see at the end of the year. I still think we will need one high but maybe itsan OLBnot MLB. There wil be some good players at LB in round 2. I want are run offense fortified a RT, a RB with break away speed and a TE. Im hoping we dont need a nickel corner . I would love the Giants to have a pick they can use on a speed guy that can do a bunch of things but if they have needs at MLB and CB they wont have the luxury to pick a nice TE or do everything guy I know hes a LT prospect, but Demarcus Love was everything and then Some today against Georgia.. If we were to get a LT, we always could scoot Diehl to RT, which would be way better for us.. Demarcus Love is a Hot Name out there right now, and for very good reason... A Speed Guy who i noticed in ARK game, was Joe Adams, hes a Blazer, who is awesome in Kick Game, a Game changer WR, and u could easily see him getting a few end arounds or diffrent trick plays.. he does have alittle attitude problem though, that almost cost his team big, getting a Personal Foul late, that really helped Georgia, and he almost got called for another one earlier in the game.

gmen0820
09-18-2010, 05:09 PM
Mark Ingram at it again.

Redeyejedi
09-18-2010, 06:09 PM
Man Jake Locker looking bad vs Nebraska

nycsportzfan
09-22-2010, 07:59 PM
Man, Just listening to Mayock and B.Baldinger doing there Rookie Report, and it is just a sick segment... Mayock was Raving about Geno Atkins, a guy some of us really liked, and a couple others did not, and Mayock was one who did not like him, he even called himself out for his analysis on him...lol Thats class, right there!! Anyways, Baldinger went with Koa Misi and Kyle Wilson, and mayock instantly said Misi was a guy who u knew must be extremley strong and a able pass rusher, because he just did not fit the usual B.Parcells OLB, they showed tape of him litteraly driving Bryant McKinnie all the way back to farve, and then when mckinnie stops, misi don't, and he hits Favre just as favre releases it, causing a off target throw downfield.. Just sensational Tape and analysis!


They also said how 39rookies started wk 1, the most since 1991, so i think its safe to say that the talent we all were talking about last yr in that draft, was for real... Its too bad our only rook seeing time is Matt Dodge...lol I want to see Linval at least...

gmen0820
09-25-2010, 01:18 PM
Damn, denard Robinson killing it.

nycsportzfan
09-25-2010, 01:36 PM
not to impressed with Ga Tech early, they are horrible... Just watching them bumble there way around, with a QB who throws worse then my grandmother, a punter who thinks he can hold the ball for ever, a Fumbling bafoon of a RB in Ant Allen, whos got no future in the NFL, as his hands are just atrosius... I mean, they make a mistake pretty much once every 4plays, wheater it be a fumble, a Blocked PUnt TD, a Wideopen WR that nesbitt miss's, they look horrible...


As far as NC ST, as i said last wk, there freaking stacked this yr, that George Ryan TE kid, has some super soft hands, and there defense is beyond good.. This OPtion offense dosen't stand a chance against nc states defense... Just watched Nesbitt throw again, have a one on one, and it wasen't even close... This is a bad team, Ga Tech... I don't know how they beat UNC, even with there suspensions, because Ga Tech is not good..

Redeyejedi
09-25-2010, 02:29 PM
LOL does Michigan play any road games what the F.

Redeyejedi
09-25-2010, 03:10 PM
Tide Razorbacks in about an hour

gmen0820
09-25-2010, 03:10 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot.

nycsportzfan
09-25-2010, 04:30 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..

gmen0820
09-25-2010, 04:39 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot.* Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was...* This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
He is extremely accurate. I really like him. He'd be a top ten lock if he was 6-3+.

heavyhitter
09-25-2010, 07:18 PM
Love to see this guy on the Giants roster next year:
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Redeyejedi
09-25-2010, 11:44 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
He is extremely accurate. I really like him. He'd be a top ten lock if he was 6-3+.If he was 6-3 he would in the SEC playing QB

Redeyejedi
10-03-2010, 12:05 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey

nycsportzfan
10-03-2010, 03:16 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!

thegreatone
10-03-2010, 04:08 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot.* Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was...* This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey* Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;p

Redeyejedi
10-03-2010, 04:12 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;pI still cant believe he weighed that much at the combine.That kid put on 20 pounds Im convinced. Earl changed my whole perception on him that day. He worked his butt off to get there.I was and still am impressed with how hard he worked

nycsportzfan
10-03-2010, 05:26 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;pI still cant believe he weighed that much at the combine.That kid put on 20 pounds Im convinced. Earl changed my whole perception on him that day. He worked his butt off to get there.I was and still am impressed with how hard he worked well, what about what he did on the field? I mean, dosen't that matter to ya..lol He was a freaking beast for texas, a Straight beast, from the second he took the field for the longhorns, and that same exact ballhawking nature has already presented its self in the NFL, with 3ints, all though, he plays for a Cruddy team... I definetly don't think he gained 20lbs, he was listed the whole time at a respectable weight, and i showed pictures with his shirt off, and it showed he was probably very close to his listed weight.. He was probably around 195-199 at texas, in my opinion, and i watched a Ton of him with my Uncle....


I wish he was in our Secondary, as hes gonna be a sensational player, and so far, as mayock agreed, hes pretty close to talent with Eric Berry, and hes been better so far... Hes also projected to get 112tackles to go with 11ints for the season... My DROY prediction looking good early on...lol

nycsportzfan
10-03-2010, 05:27 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;p lol

myles2424
10-03-2010, 06:50 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot.* Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was...* This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey* Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;pI still cant believe he weighed that much at the combine.That kid put on 20 pounds Im convinced. Earl changed my whole perception on him that day. He worked his butt off to get there.I was and still am impressed with how hard he worked
im glad to see Thomas doing good....I was one of the first people on the board with the Earl Thomas bandwagon, i cant even rememebr how many times peple said "Hes too small" "2nd round pick at best" "Bust in the NFL" ...lmao

nycsportzfan
10-03-2010, 08:23 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;pI still cant believe he weighed that much at the combine.That kid put on 20 pounds Im convinced. Earl changed my whole perception on him that day. He worked his butt off to get there.I was and still am impressed with how hard he worked
im glad to see Thomas doing good....I was one of the first people on the board with the Earl Thomas bandwagon, i cant even rememebr how many times peple said "Hes too small" "2nd round pick at best" "Bust in the NFL" ...lmao ALot of people asked me, if i was his Agent, thats how hard i talked about Earl...lol

Its like anything else though, u got people who just have there opinions, and thats that.. I wanted to go after Charlie Weis for OC so bad during the offseason, and all i heard about was his HC gig at ND.. The guys a Beast OC, and is killing it for KC right now, and it would of been great to have his creative mind mixed in with all the skilled players we have...

Redeyejedi
10-03-2010, 08:43 PM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;pI still cant believe he weighed that much at the combine.That kid put on 20 pounds Im convinced. Earl changed my whole perception on him that day. He worked his butt off to get there.I was and still am impressed with how hard he worked im glad to see Thomas doing good....I was one of the first people on the board with the Earl Thomas bandwagon, i cant even rememebr how many times peple said "Hes too small" "2nd round pick at best" "Bust in the NFL" ...lmaoI dont remember anyone saying he was going to be a bust. I dont recall anyone questioning his ability to play the pass. I definitely questioned whether he could be effective against the run on a consistent basis.As far as pass defense goes U would have to be blind not to notice those skills.I stand by my statement that he was 190 pounds in the national championship game though. After seeing him at the combine looking the way he did,He shut me up thats for sure.

nycsportzfan
10-04-2010, 01:50 AM
another Akeem Ayers Update.. He just had a Ok game against Wash ST, going for 4solo tackles, a Forced Fumble, a Sack, and a Pass Defended...lol

This Dude is on another level!

nycsportzfan
10-04-2010, 01:55 AM
Man it's a damn shame that Russell Wilson is only six foot. Thats what i said last wk, the dudes insane.. I think he must be given a shot, regardless of size, its not like he dosen't throw the ball well, ala Drew Brees, and he is very hard to take down, because hes kinda muscley thick and stong, as far as his base, and obviously he moves well in the pocket... A much more complete player then say, Troy Smith was... This is the 2nd complete game i've seen R.Wilson play, and i am just as impressed as i was last wk, if not more, being it was on the rd in Techs home stadium..
Funny how we both got ripped for saying Crabtree wasnt the best receiver in the draft. Funny how that works hey Ya, i Liked Kenny Britt the Best, with Hakeem Nicks, Maclin up there, with crabtree in the mix as well.. THe only guy i didn't like was Darius Heyward Bey.. Its funny how some on here actually started sticking up for Bey when there was rumours we were interested..

Oh ya, Earl Thomas with yet another Pick today against St Louis, when St louis had 2nd and Goal no less, saving a Score... Dudes, a Beast!
he's too small ;pI still cant believe he weighed that much at the combine.That kid put on 20 pounds Im convinced. Earl changed my whole perception on him that day. He worked his butt off to get there.I was and still am impressed with how hard he worked im glad to see Thomas doing good....I was one of the first people on the board with the Earl Thomas bandwagon, i cant even rememebr how many times peple said "Hes too small" "2nd round pick at best" "Bust in the NFL" ...lmaoI dont remember anyone saying he was going to be a bust. I dont recall anyone questioning his ability to play the pass. I definitely questioned whether he could be effective against the run on a consistent basis.As far as pass defense goes U would have to be blind not to notice those skills.I stand by my statement that he was 190 pounds in the national championship game though. After seeing him at the combine looking the way he did,He shut me up thats for sure. no, your right on bust, but certainly alot of doubts as far as Underestimating a Impecable Resume..To many People put to much emphasis on Size/Speed, instead of just being a Great "football" player, with instincts and smarts being huge assets to a players game.. I dont want a Kid whos super fast and big if hes got butterfingers, and can't control himself in a heated moment and costs your team Huge Yrds..... Also, Earl had shown a willingness to mix it up in the run, he caught alot of heat on here for his size, and people assuming he coulden't tackle..

slipknottin
10-04-2010, 03:09 AM
Well Seattle is doing exactly what they should be doing with Earl Thomas, let him free lance and use his instincts to make plays against the pass. They are playing him deep constantly so he doesn't have to do much run support,

I said pre-draft that he would have to play in that kind of system to be effective.

As for the giants who use their safetys interchangeably and often up in run support, he wouldn't fit so well here.

And if anyone watched Berry play against the 49ers last week, he's really coming on strong. Made a couple really good plays that show just what kind of player he can be.

nycsportzfan
10-04-2010, 03:46 AM
Well Seattle is doing exactly what they should be doing with Earl Thomas, let him free lance and use his instincts to make plays against the pass. They are playing him deep constantly so he doesn't have to do much run support,

I said pre-draft that he would have to play in that kind of system to be effective.

As for the giants who use their safetys interchangeably and often up in run support, he wouldn't fit so well here.

And if anyone watched Berry play against the 49ers last week, he's really coming on strong. Made a couple really good plays that show just what kind of player he can be. Earls had to make quite a few plays against the run with poorus run defense Seattle has, and hes done just fine, hes making all sorts of solo tackles, and the seattle fans say hes very physical in his form, violent if u will... Hes very well rounded, and his size dosen't matter anyways, as hes the same size as Antrel Rolle, who we've seen as a ballhawker, coming up to the line plenty of times already to support the run or blitz.. If your on the Football field, and your gonna be successful, in todays NFL, u can't just stand back play after play, u have to show diffrent looks with your personel, and from what i understand, hes been a 3down player anyways.. Seattle fans on NFL.com Messege Boards and I talked about him alot during there win over SD..

slipknottin
10-04-2010, 02:00 PM
First off, Earl Thomas is not the same size as Rolle.

Second, in the charger game Thomas was credited with 2 run support tackles, both coming against Sproles. He had no tackles against the big back Tolbert.

Think that's a coincidence? No. He is strictly a free safety, that's not to say he can't help in run support occasionally, but he is not an in the box run stopper, not by a long shot.

nycsportzfan
10-04-2010, 02:10 PM
First off, Earl Thomas is not the same size as Rolle.

Second, in the charger game Thomas was credited with 2 run support tackles, both coming against Sproles. He had no tackles against the big back Tolbert.

Think that's a coincidence? No. He is strictly a free safety, that's not to say he can't help in run support occasionally, but he is not an in the box run stopper, not by a long shot. First of all, The chargers threw the ball 53 times, and barley ran the ball all game, as Sproles only had 1single carry, which makes it hard to make 2tackles on someone in run support, u think? He also had a QB HIT.

And I never said, hes a In the box safety at all, u made it seem as if he was strickly a CF'er who did nothing else, and that coulen't be further from the truth...

slipknottin
10-04-2010, 02:33 PM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes.

nycsportzfan
10-04-2010, 03:41 PM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes. of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints... And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...

thegreatone
10-07-2010, 09:25 PM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes.** of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints...** And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and* 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...
hey what do you know bout donate moch OMB for Nevada. Saw his 40 listed at 4.25. I know that's not official but damn!

Redeyejedi
10-07-2010, 09:29 PM
First off, Earl Thomas is not the same size as Rolle. Second, in the charger game Thomas was credited with 2 run support tackles, both coming against Sproles. He had no tackles against the big back Tolbert. Think that's a coincidence? No. He is strictly a free safety, that's not to say he can't help in run support occasionally, but he is not an in the box run stopper, not by a long shot.Yeah I never thought he fit the Giants very well. Certain teams I thought he was a good fit as a safety . Most teams as a corner

nycsportzfan
10-07-2010, 10:54 PM
First off, Earl Thomas is not the same size as Rolle. Second, in the charger game Thomas was credited with 2 run support tackles, both coming against Sproles. He had no tackles against the big back Tolbert. Think that's a coincidence? No. He is strictly a free safety, that's not to say he can't help in run support occasionally, but he is not an in the box run stopper, not by a long shot.Yeah I never thought he fit the Giants very well. Certain teams I thought he was a good fit as a safety . Most teams as a corner the guys almost the same size as Rolle, and just like Rolle, he also can man up on a WR, except hes probably alittle better at it, and he has good speed like rolle, and hes already made some plays against the Run, with TFL and QB HIT, he picked up Knowshon Moreno at the Line and Dropped em like a Sac of Potatoes... Why wouldent a FS like him, very compact fit a team? Rolle and Thomas are very Similar plaeyrs, as far as what u would get the guys for, almost identical...

nycsportzfan
10-07-2010, 10:56 PM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes. of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints... And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...
hey what do you know bout donate moch OMB for Nevada. Saw his 40 listed at 4.25. I know that's not official but damn! I know hes got extreme wheels, and makes plays.. Other then that, i don't know much about em..


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thegreatone
10-07-2010, 11:11 PM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes.** of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints...** And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and* 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...
hey what do you know bout donate moch OMB for Nevada. Saw his 40 listed at 4.25. I know that's not official but damn! I know hes got extreme wheels, and makes plays.. Other then that, i don't know much about em..


<h1 class="title">DE Dontay Moch Runs The Fastest 40-Time Ever!</h1>

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">They were the
ones who timed the run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in
front of their faces. But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html)
had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the
fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked
a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made
him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in
4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by
only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1,
245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has
freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said.
"Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he
puts his mind to it,


Read more... (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/NFL-Insider-Insider-info/de-dontay-moch-runs-the-fastest-40-time-ever.html)</p></span>r>woooow unfortunately sounds like a 3-4 olb but man this kid sounds interesting.He

heavyhitter
10-08-2010, 03:57 AM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes. of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints... And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...
hey what do you know bout donate moch OMB for Nevada. Saw his 40 listed at 4.25. I know that's not official but damn! I know hes got extreme wheels, and makes plays.. Other then that, i don't know much about em..


<h1 class="title">DE Dontay Moch Runs The Fastest 40-Time Ever!</h1>

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">They were the
ones who timed the run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in
front of their faces. But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html)
had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the
fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked
a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made
him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in
4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by
only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1,
245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has
freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said.
"Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he
puts his mind to it,


Read more... (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/NFL-Insider-Insider-info/de-dontay-moch-runs-the-fastest-40-time-ever.html)</p></span>r&gt;woooow unfortunately sounds like a 3-4 olb but man this kid sounds interesting.HeThat's crazy fast speed for a DE. So what's the knock on the guy? He seems a little small at 6"1. Not too many DE's that size in the NFL. The guys obviously got talent, I'm wondering why none of the major college football programs took notice?

thegreatone
10-08-2010, 10:44 AM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play.

So he had 1 run support tackle all game.

He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes.** of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints...** And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and* 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...
hey what do you know bout donate moch OMB for Nevada. Saw his 40 listed at 4.25. I know that's not official but damn! I know hes got extreme wheels, and makes plays.. Other then that, i don't know much about em..


<h1 class="title">DE Dontay Moch Runs The Fastest 40-Time Ever!</h1>

<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">They were the
ones who timed the run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in
front of their faces. But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html)
had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the
fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked
a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made
him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in
4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by
only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1,
245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has
freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said.
"Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he
puts his mind to it,


Read more... (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/NFL-Insider-Insider-info/de-dontay-moch-runs-the-fastest-40-time-ever.html)</p></span>r>woooow unfortunately sounds like a 3-4 olb but man this kid sounds interesting.HeThat's crazy fast speed for a DE. So what's the knock on the guy? He seems a little small at 6"1. Not too many DE's that size in the NFL. The guys obviously got talent, I'm wondering why none of the major college football programs took notice?
good question. His bro plays at sdst but as for him maybe fell through the cracks? Idk happens sometimes gonna keep an eye on him that's for sure

Redeyejedi
10-08-2010, 01:50 PM
Sorry, his 2nd tackle on sproles was a passing play. So he had 1 run support tackle all game. He is not a big physical safety, he is a smaller instinctive cover guy. He wouldn't fit in to a lot of teams defensive schemes. of course he would, why woulden't he? The guys made plays all over the field, wheater if be a QB HIT or a TFL or 23total tackles 19solo, 3ints... And, again, thats with the Seahawks having 2of there opponets throwing all the time against them, becasue they were up most to all of the game, including a 53 pass effort from Rivers and 45 pass effort from Alex Smith... In those Instances, hes gonna be playing CF more, because its nothing but pass downs most of the time, but he still has a QB HIT and a TFL all ready as well, and Leads the Team in SOLO tackles.. The dudes awesome, and is probably in the Lead early on for DROY...

3ints, 1tfl, 1QB hit and 19 solo tackles, and on pace for 92tackles overall...
hey what do you know bout donate moch OMB for Nevada. Saw his 40 listed at 4.25. I know that's not official but damn! I know hes got extreme wheels, and makes plays.. Other then that, i don't know much about em..



<H1 class=title>DE Dontay Moch Runs The Fastest 40-Time Ever!</H1><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">They were the ones who timed the run. They were the ones who saw it happen right in front of their faces. But they didn't believe it. Nevada's Dontay Moch (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Players/List/2011-Big-Board/Dontay-Moch.html) had just run a 4.18-second 40-yard dash. That time would be among the fastest ever recorded. In disbelief, they made him run again. He clocked a 4.08 in his second try. That time is almost inhuman. So, they made him run again. On his third and final try, he covered the 40 yards in 4.2 seconds. Maybe he was a little tired, but even that time is run by only the most nimble wide receivers and cornerbacks. Imagine a 6-foot-1, 245-pound defensive end like Moch running it. Unthinkable. "He has freakish talent," Wolf Pack defensive coordinator Andy Buh said. "Freakish talent. That would be my two words for Dontay Moch. When he puts his mind to it,


Read more... (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/NFL-Insider-Insider-info/de-dontay-moch-runs-the-fastest-40-time-ever.html)</P>


</SPAN>r&gt;woooow unfortunately sounds like a 3-4 olb but man this kid sounds interesting.He</P>


As TFY Draft’s Tony Pauline noted in his excellent podcast, Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick surprisingly timed in the 4.4s on the same surface that Moch ran his 40. Both players probably benefited from running on a very fast track. In fact, it’s likely that Moch’s 40 time in Indy will end up being closer to Kaepernick’s than his own 4.25.</P>


One area where Moch needs to show improvement is at using his hands effectively. Moch’s speed can be neutralized when he doesn’t quickly dispatch blockers. At 6’1?, 238 lbs., he’s at a natural size/length disadvantage, so it’s important that he improve his strength and do everything he can to perfect his hand play.
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Moch’s lack of ideal size stands out even more in the run game. He’s often engulfed by right tackles, even the occasional tight end. When he gets proper extension, Moch does flash good strength: on one play, he brought Sam Young to his knees. But Moch more often gets plowed back, like when he lost contain early in the bowl game against SMU, leading to a TD.
<BR \>
Because of his limitations as a run-defending 4-3 defensive end, Moch likely will have to make the transition to 3-4 outside linebacker. He only rushed with his hand up and dropped into coverage a couple times in the games I watched, but he looked very comfortable doing both. On one play, he dropped into coverage and quickly sniffed out a screen; though he didn’t make the tackle, he managed to slow down the action and prevent a bigger play.</P>


I cant wait to see this guy in the all star games.I hope I get a chance to catch one of his games. I know for sure that they will be on against Boise State at the end of the season<BR \>
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thegreatone
10-08-2010, 06:03 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)

nycsportzfan
10-08-2010, 07:05 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...

thegreatone
10-08-2010, 08:58 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)* Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well..* Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely...** Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;)

nycsportzfan
10-08-2010, 09:08 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka... I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..

Redeyejedi
10-08-2010, 09:11 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)As willI but I doget what there saying about the track. I bet he runs a 4.4 at the combine which is still very fast for that size. I dont think he is a guy that goes to the Giants but I will be looking out for him out of curiosity. I hope there is another chance to catch him before the Boise St game.

Redeyejedi
10-08-2010, 09:14 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something

thegreatone
10-08-2010, 09:20 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)* Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well..* Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely...** Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka...** I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..
I wouldn't be worried. While I think hall can be a very good qb his first game is against a very fast and very good defense. All depends on the scheme and if they can get beanie and Hightower goin early. Hoopefully it'll be on tv and I'll get to watch my 7th round pick:) tell u what much rather having him back up Eli than dodge

thegreatone
10-08-2010, 09:25 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still rtun 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)As will*I but I do*get what there saying about the track. I bet he runs a 4.4 at the combine which is still very fast for that size. I dont think he is a guy that goes to the Giants but I will be looking out for him out of curiosity. I hope there is another chance to catch him before the Boise St game.tomorrow on espnu! I'll be watching:)

Redeyejedi
10-08-2010, 09:39 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still rtun 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)As willI but I doget what there saying about the track. I bet he runs a 4.4 at the combine which is still very fast for that size. I dont think he is a guy that goes to the Giants but I will be looking out for him out of curiosity. I hope there is another chance to catch him before the Boise St game.tomorrow on espnu! I'll be watching:)There on tommorow?

thegreatone
10-08-2010, 10:29 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still rtun 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)As will*I but I do*get what there saying about the track. I bet he runs a 4.4 at the combine which is still very fast for that size. I dont think he is a guy that goes to the Giants but I will be looking out for him out of curiosity. I hope there is another chance to catch him before the Boise St game.tomorrow on espnu! I'll be watching:)There on tommorow?yup 7:35 pm espnu cd San Jose st

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 07:59 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 08:04 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka... I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..
I wouldn't be worried. While I think hall can be a very good qb his first game is against a very fast and very good defense. All depends on the scheme and if they can get beanie and Hightower goin early. Hoopefully it'll be on tv and I'll get to watch my 7th round pick:) tell u what much rather having him back up Eli than dodge Ya, i'm not 2 worried, but u never know.. U see it all to often, a situation that screams 1way, and then, goes a Totally other way... Watch ARZ end up winning a low scoring battle or something(18-13)...lol I need points to be scored by NO and not many by ARZ.. It just seems so many people are assuming a Rout, that it almost seems like a Rout will not be happening... I just hope that the Consensus is correct on this one... It is cool, that your SLeeper is making his first NFL start tommorow though.. All though, he just so happened to find the Perfect situation in ARZ, with D.Anderson as the starter...


Side Note- I actually bet my freind 25bucks that D.Anderson would Not throw 29 TD pass's this yr..lol He drafted Larry Fitzgerald in his Fantasy Draft, and i told him it was possibly a Bad Move, and he went on to Rave about Derek ANderson in that offense, saying, "hes gonna throw at least 29td pass's"...lol I said, "put your money where your mouth is".. So, we put up 25bucks, which i knew was like taking Candy From a baby...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 08:06 AM
By the way, anyone catch Chas Dodd of RU last night? OMG! kids got a Sensational Arm and Accuracy! They were showing some of his High School THrows, and i swear to god, they were possibly the best throws i'd seen at the high school level, and would pretty much rival any throw out there...

Also, how the heck did Mahhamed Sanu get a INT?? I had to go to work, so i missed most of the 2nd half, and i seen he got a INT, did they actually put him on D? That dude does it all...

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 09:04 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)* Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well..* Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely...** Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL.* I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast* say something* u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected...* Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 09:13 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)* Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well..* Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely...** Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka...** I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..
I wouldn't be worried. While I think hall can be a very good qb his first game is against a very fast and very good defense. All depends on the scheme and if they can get beanie and Hightower goin early. Hoopefully it'll be on tv and I'll get to watch my 7th round pick:) tell u what much rather having him back up Eli than dodge* Ya, i'm not 2 worried, but u never know.. U see it all to often, a situation that screams 1way, and then, goes a Totally other way... Watch ARZ end up winning a low scoring battle or something(18-13)...lol* I need points to be scored by NO and not many by ARZ.. It just seems so many people are assuming a Rout, that it almost seems like a Rout will not be happening... I just hope that the Consensus is correct on this one...* It is cool, that your SLeeper is making his first NFL start tommorow though.. All though, he just so happened to find the Perfect situation in ARZ, with D.Anderson as the starter...


Side Note- I actually bet my freind 25bucks that D.Anderson would Not throw 29 TD pass's this yr..lol* He drafted Larry Fitzgerald in his Fantasy Draft, and i told him it was possibly a Bad Move, and he went on to Rave about Derek ANderson in that offense, saying, "hes gonna throw at least 29td pass's"...lol* I said, "put your money where your mouth is"..** So, we put up 25bucks, which i knew was like taking Candy From a baby...
exactly what I said in our auction league when Fitzgerald was drafted. Too risky a move with Anderson at qb.I wouldn't call it a perfect situation but was definitely beneficial. I mean an udfa comes in and helps you decide to cut loose a former high draft qb you know he has skill. Granted leinhart is not very good some coaches would consider keeping him around because of the investment and the knowledge he has of the playbook. Matt isn't a starter but I can see him a a decent no2 and an even better 3. Gonna be a fun weekend

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 10:17 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka... I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..
I wouldn't be worried. While I think hall can be a very good qb his first game is against a very fast and very good defense. All depends on the scheme and if they can get beanie and Hightower goin early. Hoopefully it'll be on tv and I'll get to watch my 7th round pick:) tell u what much rather having him back up Eli than dodge Ya, i'm not 2 worried, but u never know.. U see it all to often, a situation that screams 1way, and then, goes a Totally other way... Watch ARZ end up winning a low scoring battle or something(18-13)...lol I need points to be scored by NO and not many by ARZ.. It just seems so many people are assuming a Rout, that it almost seems like a Rout will not be happening... I just hope that the Consensus is correct on this one... It is cool, that your SLeeper is making his first NFL start tommorow though.. All though, he just so happened to find the Perfect situation in ARZ, with D.Anderson as the starter...


Side Note- I actually bet my freind 25bucks that D.Anderson would Not throw 29 TD pass's this yr..lol He drafted Larry Fitzgerald in his Fantasy Draft, and i told him it was possibly a Bad Move, and he went on to Rave about Derek ANderson in that offense, saying, "hes gonna throw at least 29td pass's"...lol I said, "put your money where your mouth is".. So, we put up 25bucks, which i knew was like taking Candy From a baby...
exactly what I said in our auction league when Fitzgerald was drafted. Too risky a move with Anderson at qb.I wouldn't call it a perfect situation but was definitely beneficial. I mean an udfa comes in and helps you decide to cut loose a former high draft qb you know he has skill. Granted leinhart is not very good some coaches would consider keeping him around because of the investment and the knowledge he has of the playbook. Matt isn't a starter but I can see him a a decent no2 and an even better 3. Gonna be a fun weekend The Cards is the only place in football, where Max Hall would be starting this week, and thats, that....lol If that isn't ideal, then i don't know what is.. Leinart was done in Arizona, he started complaining and whining and they just weren't impressed enough with him, to keep him around, and as a 10th overall pick, they had to try and get something for him.. I really doubt max hall had anything to do with it... If the cards had Dave Brown as the Backup to Anderson, i think Leinart would of been gone...lol I really don't think the cards are happy at all, that max hall is starting for them tommorow.. They just have no options, mines well, go with the kid, and hope they catch a Spark.. Not taking anything away from him making the team and what not, but there soooo far away from actually feeling comfortable with him starting, and he didn't look to good, actually looked pretty bad in limited time last week... On top of being Short, he dosen't have ideal arm strength.. But what he does have, is QB Moxy, and we shall see tommorow if that can carry him to a Solid Start against the SB CHAMPS....

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 10:21 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like 242lbs or something, not quite a Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3 SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all... But, Wierder things have happened...

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 10:39 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like 242lbs or something, not quite a Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3 SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all... But, Wierder things have happened...
From what I have read they seem to be grading him out as a situational pass rusher in a 3-4 defense

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 10:42 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like 242lbs or something, not quite a Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3 SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all... But, Wierder things have happened...
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What games u watching today?Greatone said this kid is on TV tonight but its going to be hard not to watch Miami and FSU to watch one player</P>

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 10:48 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)* Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well..* Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely...** Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka...** I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..
I wouldn't be worried. While I think hall can be a very good qb his first game is against a very fast and very good defense. All depends on the scheme and if they can get beanie and Hightower goin early. Hoopefully it'll be on tv and I'll get to watch my 7th round pick:) tell u what much rather having him back up Eli than dodge* Ya, i'm not 2 worried, but u never know.. U see it all to often, a situation that screams 1way, and then, goes a Totally other way... Watch ARZ end up winning a low scoring battle or something(18-13)...lol* I need points to be scored by NO and not many by ARZ.. It just seems so many people are assuming a Rout, that it almost seems like a Rout will not be happening... I just hope that the Consensus is correct on this one...* It is cool, that your SLeeper is making his first NFL start tommorow though.. All though, he just so happened to find the Perfect situation in ARZ, with D.Anderson as the starter...


Side Note- I actually bet my freind 25bucks that D.Anderson would Not throw 29 TD pass's this yr..lol* He drafted Larry Fitzgerald in his Fantasy Draft, and i told him it was possibly a Bad Move, and he went on to Rave about Derek ANderson in that offense, saying, "hes gonna throw at least 29td pass's"...lol* I said, "put your money where your mouth is"..** So, we put up 25bucks, which i knew was like taking Candy From a baby...
exactly what I said in our auction league when Fitzgerald was drafted. Too risky a move with Anderson at qb.I wouldn't call it a perfect situation but was definitely beneficial. I mean an udfa comes in and helps you decide to cut loose a former high draft qb you know he has skill. Granted leinhart is not very good some coaches would consider keeping him around because of the investment and the knowledge he has of the playbook. Matt isn't a starter but I can see him a a decent no2 and an even better 3. Gonna be a fun weekend The Cards is the only place in football, where Max Hall would be starting this week, and thats, that....lol If that isn't ideal, then i don't know what is.. Leinart was done in Arizona, he started complaining and whining and they just weren't impressed enough with him, to keep him around, and as a 10th overall pick, they had to try and get something for him.. I really doubt max hall had anything to do with it... If the cards had** Dave Brown as the Backup to Anderson, i think Leinart would of been gone...lol* I really don't think the cards are happy at all, that max hall is starting for them tommorow.. They just have no options, mines well, go with the kid, and hope they catch a Spark..* Not taking anything away from him making the team and what not, but there soooo far away from actually feeling comfortable with him starting, and he didn't look to good, actually looked pretty bad in limited time last week... On top of being Short, he dosen't have ideal arm strength.. But what he does have, is QB Moxy, and we shall see tommorow if that can carry him to a Solid Start against the SB CHAMPS....
you don't hand over the keys to the franchise and the fate of YOUR JOB if you don't have some confidence the kid can get it done. Other " perfect" situations would be buf, kc,sf... There are others where I could see him gettin a start.

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 10:51 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:)* Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well..* Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely...** Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL.* I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast* say something* u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected...* Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like* 242lbs or something, not quite a* Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3* SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that* almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all...* But, Wierder things have happened...
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What games u watching today?*Greatone said this kid is on TV tonight but its going to be hard not to watch Miami and FSU to watch one player</P>is why I love DVR:) I'm a Miami fan so definately watching it whil recordin Nevada game.

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 10:58 AM
Any of U guys watch the Nebraska game the other night. Everyone talks about Akamura but the guy on the other side is pretty damn good to. Dejon Gomes Id keep on eye on him. Also there was a thread on scouts at the Ohio State game. I didnt realize Michael Brewster was eligible I thought he was a sophomore. Ive seen him ranked as the number 1 center prospect in the 12 draft is it possible the Giants were eyeing him. He is a little tall for a center at 6-5. Mike Adams is another guy for Ohio State he plays LT and was a 5 star recruit.His school list coming at of HS Ohio State,Florida,LSU,Michigan,Notre Dame,Oklahoma,Tennessee.Had some off the field trouble big dude though 6-8 320. U know he can move well with Pryor as his QB.He is a junior as well

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 11:01 AM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like 242lbs or something, not quite a Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3 SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all... But, Wierder things have happened...
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What games u watching today?Greatone said this kid is on TV tonight but its going to be hard not to watch Miami and FSU to watch one player</P>


is why I love DVR:) I'm a Miami fan so definately watching it whil recordin Nevada game.</P>


Check your mail</P>

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 11:06 AM
Any of U guys watch the Nebraska game the other night. Everyone talks about Akamura but the guy on the other side is pretty damn good to. Dejon Gomes Id keep on eye on him. Also there was a thread on scouts at the Ohio State game. I didnt realize Michael Brewster was eligible I thought he was a sophomore. Ive seen him ranked as the number 1 center prospect in the 12 draft is it possible the Giants were eyeing him. He is a little tall for a center at 6-5. Mike Adams is another guy for Ohio State he plays LT and was a 5 star recruit.His school list coming at of HS* Ohio State,Florida,LSU,Michigan,Notre Dame,Oklahoma,Tennessee.*Had some off the field trouble big dude though 6-8 320. U know he can move well with Pryor as his QB.He is a junior as wellI think our scouts will be keeping a close eye on the olineman every game they scout. It our biggest weakness along with lbr. Don't know about a 6'5 center but if he can create passing lanes who cares? Which he can so idk. Has he played ot any?

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 11:10 AM
Daaang thanks bro! My gf is gonna hate you though lol.

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 11:19 AM
Any of U guys watch the Nebraska game the other night. Everyone talks about Akamura but the guy on the other side is pretty damn good to. Dejon Gomes Id keep on eye on him. Also there was a thread on scouts at the Ohio State game. I didnt realize Michael Brewster was eligible I thought he was a sophomore. Ive seen him ranked as the number 1 center prospect in the 12 draft is it possible the Giants were eyeing him. He is a little tall for a center at 6-5. Mike Adams is another guy for Ohio State he plays LT and was a 5 star recruit.His school list coming at of HS Ohio State,Florida,LSU,Michigan,Notre Dame,Oklahoma,Tennessee.Had some off the field trouble big dude though 6-8 320. U know he can move well with Pryor as his QB.He is a junior as wellI think our scouts will be keeping a close eye on the olineman every game they scout. It our biggest weakness along with lbr. Don't know about a 6'5 center but if he can create passing lanes who cares? Which he can so idk. Has he played ot any?Well Koets is 6-5 and hasnt seemed to have to many problems. The good thing is he could probably add weight and play at 315-320 which is helpful withall the 3-4 teams. If it is Brewster there looking at that would mean the Giants are thinking center very early possibly the first round depending on where there picking. Im not crazy about interior lineman that high but the Giants may have put themselves in a spot where they need a day 1 starter there. It will all depend on how Koets plays I guess. I have been surprised by how well he has played thus far<FONT color=#000000>. Maybe the Giants luck out and all the holes on the O-line can be filled with guys on the roster already</FONT>

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 11:33 AM
This crap pisses me off why cant they schedule games better. LSU-Florida is on at 7.30, Miami -FSU is at 8. 3.30 Michigan st-Michigan, 3:30 Alabama - SC.</P>


Why cant these games be on not against each other. Miami is my favorite team but LSU-Florida is an awesome game.</P>


Oh and the Nevada game is on at 10:30 .</P>


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thegreatone
10-09-2010, 01:33 PM
This crap pisses me off why cant they schedule games better. LSU-Florida is on at 7.30, Miami -FSU is at 8. 3.30 Michigan st-Michigan, 3:30 Alabama - SC.</P>


Why cant these games be on not against each other. Miami is my favorite team but LSU-Florida is an awesome game.</P>


Oh and the Nevada game is on at 10:30 .</P>


*</P>Hmm your right says 7:30 on their schedule though . Good heads up

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:36 PM
Any of U guys watch the Nebraska game the other night. Everyone talks about Akamura but the guy on the other side is pretty damn good to. Dejon Gomes Id keep on eye on him. Also there was a thread on scouts at the Ohio State game. I didnt realize Michael Brewster was eligible I thought he was a sophomore. Ive seen him ranked as the number 1 center prospect in the 12 draft is it possible the Giants were eyeing him. He is a little tall for a center at 6-5. Mike Adams is another guy for Ohio State he plays LT and was a 5 star recruit.His school list coming at of HS Ohio State,Florida,LSU,Michigan,Notre Dame,Oklahoma,Tennessee.Had some off the field trouble big dude though 6-8 320. U know he can move well with Pryor as his QB.He is a junior as well Ya, i watched the NEB game... You are correct on Gomes, he looked really good, as did Akumara.. Gomes is certainly on the old radar....

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:38 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like 242lbs or something, not quite a Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3 SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all... But, Wierder things have happened...
From what I have read they seem to be grading him out as a situational pass rusher in a 3-4 defense yup,Thats what i'd assume, but again, Wierder things have happened.. If a 4/3 team needs Speed more then anything in there LB core, and hes on the board later then they thought, they may feel the value is there, but most likely, hes a 3/4 guy, i'd assume...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:41 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
yep my thoughts too. How about that max hall NYC ;) Ya, hes getting His chance.. I mean, i picked up Saints D in my Fantasy League...lol I think my Sleeper is the number 2 QB right now in PHilly, Kafka... I hope Max Hall is horrible this weekend, i am in 1st in my league, and i got a Ton invested in the Saints this weekend, from Lance Moore as my num 3 WR, to Saints D, to John Carney.. I hope that game goes as planned, i'm playing the number 2 team in the league..
I wouldn't be worried. While I think hall can be a very good qb his first game is against a very fast and very good defense. All depends on the scheme and if they can get beanie and Hightower goin early. Hoopefully it'll be on tv and I'll get to watch my 7th round pick:) tell u what much rather having him back up Eli than dodge Ya, i'm not 2 worried, but u never know.. U see it all to often, a situation that screams 1way, and then, goes a Totally other way... Watch ARZ end up winning a low scoring battle or something(18-13)...lol I need points to be scored by NO and not many by ARZ.. It just seems so many people are assuming a Rout, that it almost seems like a Rout will not be happening... I just hope that the Consensus is correct on this one... It is cool, that your SLeeper is making his first NFL start tommorow though.. All though, he just so happened to find the Perfect situation in ARZ, with D.Anderson as the starter...


Side Note- I actually bet my freind 25bucks that D.Anderson would Not throw 29 TD pass's this yr..lol He drafted Larry Fitzgerald in his Fantasy Draft, and i told him it was possibly a Bad Move, and he went on to Rave about Derek ANderson in that offense, saying, "hes gonna throw at least 29td pass's"...lol I said, "put your money where your mouth is".. So, we put up 25bucks, which i knew was like taking Candy From a baby...
exactly what I said in our auction league when Fitzgerald was drafted. Too risky a move with Anderson at qb.I wouldn't call it a perfect situation but was definitely beneficial. I mean an udfa comes in and helps you decide to cut loose a former high draft qb you know he has skill. Granted leinhart is not very good some coaches would consider keeping him around because of the investment and the knowledge he has of the playbook. Matt isn't a starter but I can see him a a decent no2 and an even better 3. Gonna be a fun weekend The Cards is the only place in football, where Max Hall would be starting this week, and thats, that....lol If that isn't ideal, then i don't know what is.. Leinart was done in Arizona, he started complaining and whining and they just weren't impressed enough with him, to keep him around, and as a 10th overall pick, they had to try and get something for him.. I really doubt max hall had anything to do with it... If the cards had Dave Brown as the Backup to Anderson, i think Leinart would of been gone...lol I really don't think the cards are happy at all, that max hall is starting for them tommorow.. They just have no options, mines well, go with the kid, and hope they catch a Spark.. Not taking anything away from him making the team and what not, but there soooo far away from actually feeling comfortable with him starting, and he didn't look to good, actually looked pretty bad in limited time last week... On top of being Short, he dosen't have ideal arm strength.. But what he does have, is QB Moxy, and we shall see tommorow if that can carry him to a Solid Start against the SB CHAMPS....
you don't hand over the keys to the franchise and the fate of YOUR JOB if you don't have some confidence the kid can get it done. Other " perfect" situations would be buf, kc,sf... There are others where I could see him gettin a start. Have u seen Derek Anderson play??? And there really not confident, if u heard Wisenhunt earlier in the week.. They litteraly have no choice, as i said...

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<span class="storybody">Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt isn't thrilled about handing the starting quarterback job to Max Hall (http://ari.scout.com/a.z?s=126&amp;p=8&amp;c=1&amp;nid=4240761), an undrafted rookie. But veteran Derek Anderson (http://ari.scout.com/a.z?s=126&amp;p=8&amp;c=1&amp;nid=4854467) left him little choice.



Anderson is ranked last in the NFL in passer rating (59.5) and has
completed just 52 percent of his passes with more interceptions (five)
than touchdowns (three).



What's hurt most is the timing of the incompletions. In each game, Anderson has missed open receivers for long gains.



The throws have not been difficult, but Anderson missed badly on most of them.



That's especially frustrating for Whisenhunt, who calls plays and helps develop the offensive game plan.



Whisenhunt declined to detail his reasoning for benching Anderson, not that many people were wondering.



"Basically, we were missing some things on offense," he said. "We
just weren't making enough plays. This is an opportunity to see if we
can do that."



On the surface it might seem that Whisenhunt is taking a huge gamble
by starting Hall, who played at Brigham Young and grew up in Mesa, a
Phoenix suburb.



The truth is, however, that he couldn't play any worse than Anderson has.



Asked if he was going to have to show more patience because of Hall's
inexperience, Whisenhunt replied: "We've been making enough mistakes,
offense and defense, everywhere.



"I don't know that you can go with everything you've got in your
playbook at this point, but we'll see how much he can handle. This week
of practice will be a good indication."



Hall is a confident guy. He's older than most rookies, 25, has been
on a mission for the LDS Church and is married with a child.



"I'm going forward like it (the job) is mine," Hall said. "That's the
mind-set you have to have. They're putting everything into me. The game
plan and everything is going toward my strengths."



Coaches have liked Hall since his first practices as a Cardinal,
during minicamp last May. Hall is small (6-foot-1, 205 pounds) and his
arm strength is average.



He won 32 games as a starter at BYU (http://byu.scout.com/), the most in school history.



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Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 04:42 PM
Without Robert Quinn Quinton Coples is turning into a very good player for NC. He is a guy to watch in the 2012 NFL Draft

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:43 PM
How much can a "fast track" improve your speed? I mean you have human error and the track but if this kid can still run 4.3 - 4.4 that's darn fast for a lbr. Not too worried about the intel as he is way too small for de and like I said more suited for 3-4 olb. Still gonna keep an eye on him:) Not to mention, the track in Indy is set up for speed as well.. Hes gonna run a Unherad of time, most likely... Its a Very Likely scenario for him to go to a Team as a 3/4 Rush LB, but weirder things have happened, just ask clint sintim...
Not like the tracks they have at colleges ever notice how pro day times are always better then the combine. I get skeptical when times are leaked out to the media remember what they said about Mays last year. His reported times were like this and he ran a 4.43 "Although I think they botched his time some how". Or maybe I should just wait to watch him in person before making a time projection,LOL. I just dont trust leaked 40's they never turn out like there advertised. Remember if U see a Nevada telecast say something u must remember, though, that is was Scouts at Nevada's Proday, not shcool officals or anything like that.. THats why they continued to make him run it, because they didn't believe it.. If u look, there is actually a Ton of people who confirmed it... I gotta say, by Majority, i believe it, 100pct... It did get slower the more he was asked to run it, which is to be expected... Most Proday 40's are alittle better, but lets be honest, if his is alittle off, so be it, its still in the Unheard of Stages... I will say this. I am not in love with the Kid because he runs a freaking fast 40 time, thats just not me, i'm more into on field production then anything else.. He happens to have the on field production, but for some reason, as u said, i would be surprised to see him as a Giant, something screams 3/4 rush OLB to me... I'm definetly gonna keep a Eye on him though, thats for sure...
something screams 3-4? Lol how bout EVERYtHING ! I love speed and is the first thing I always look for but your absolutely right, far from the most important. Really too bad they didn't have him as A lbr the last couple seasons. I hate when coaches do that. It's not beneficial to the player in the long run. Are we gearing up for a switch to 3-4? I mean we got sintim and the kid on our ps squad , isn't he a tweener too? Idk probably not just wondering well, the kid only weighs like 242lbs or something, not quite a Demarcus Ware out there, size wise.. He actually has great 4/3 SLB size, but ya, his main asset is speed, and hence "Screams", meaning, almost everything points in that direction.. I wasen't saying it as he looks like a 4/3 but i'm thinking 3/4, just saying that almost everything points to 3/4 Rush LB, that it is super highly unlikely we would see him in blue, is all... But, Wierder things have happened...
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What games u watching today?Greatone said this kid is on TV tonight but its going to be hard not to watch Miami and FSU to watch one player</p> i had to work last night, so i missed the early games, but i'm stoked to watch ND/PITT, and i'll be checking on BAMA/S.CAR, Mich/Mich St., Clem/UNC

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 04:45 PM
lets see how denard robinson does against an actual defense this week

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:48 PM
lets see how denard robinson does against an actual defense this week Hopefully Greg Jones is up to the Task, i love Mich St in that one...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:49 PM
what a play by Ian Williams, i really like him as a DT Sleeper, mayock just gave him some praise... Overall though, ND's D needs alot of work...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:53 PM
i tell ya what.. As good as Bama's D did against florida, i've seen some iffy play from them as a Unit often this season... I'm loving watching Scarolina drive down on them in there first drive... Alshon Jeffery is a Insane WR!

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 04:55 PM
Keon Lattimore! Sweet!!!!! I was thinking about Chas Dodd, the Fresh QB for RUT who was insane last night, and the fact he was handing Off To Lattimore as his RB, could u imagine that HS team????lol

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:07 PM
Micahel Floyd just isnt human! I'm telling you guys... This is the yr to move down in the Draft! With the Talent at WR and QB, we simply have to take advantage of that... Micahel Floyd is so freaking strong, it seems like a Gurantee when u got him 1on1 with the Fade inside the the 10 yrd line... I love that kid, best WR in the country in my opinion...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:21 PM
i tell ya what.. As good as Bama's D did against florida, i've seen some iffy play from them as a Unit often this season... I'm loving watching Scarolina drive down on them in there first drive... Alshon Jeffery is a Insane WR!
Right on Que, Jeffrey scores 26yrd TD! 14-3 S.Carolina! Like i said, i'm not as impressed with Bama's D as others are, and Dontae Hightower may be the Most Overhyped Player in Football...

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 05:30 PM
theres 2 many games on . i like watching NC im just watching them on D. I got Cal and UCLA on right now as well

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:35 PM
theres 2 many games on . i like watching NC im just watching them on D. I got Cal and UCLA on right now as well hows Ayers Doing? I forgot that games on, there is way to much going on!!!!lol A sleeper RB for ya Redeye, Bilal Powell of Louisville.. Great Size, and is having a Monster Season, all though he is 25yrs old, but could probably be had Very Late....

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 05:35 PM
Wow where is Alabama today

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Bruce Carter is really good and its things that dont jump out on stat sheets. NC has no fear in sending him out into the slot on WR's . He handles WR's like a safety. He is going to provide whatever NFL team he goes 2 such much flexibility in there defenses. I guess Sturdivant is out again as Ive seen a lot of Zach Brown

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:40 PM
Another SLeeper is a positon we need depth at, Harrison Smith Safety ND... Hes got great Length, and always seems to be in the right place at the right time... He would be a great asset on ST's as well..

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:42 PM
Bruce Carter is really good and its things that dont jump out on stat sheets. NC has no fear in sending him out into the slot on WR's . He handles WR's like a safety. He is going to provide whatever NFL team he goes 2 such much flexibility in there defenses. I guess Sturdivant is out again as Ive seen a lot of Zach Brown i'm totally not impressed with NC.. I just watched this Clemson team look like Trash against Miami, and have no chance... I seen UNC twice now, other time against Rutgers, and both times, there defense looked anything but Dominant... Good yes, but Far from dominant... Carter is really good though...

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 05:42 PM
theres 2 many games on . i like watching NC im just watching them on D. I got Cal and UCLA on right now as well hows Ayers Doing? I forgot that games on, there is way to much going on!!!!lol A sleeper RB for ya Redeye, Bilal Powell of Louisville.. Great Size, and is having a Monster Season, all though he is 25yrs old, but could probably be had Very Late....
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Its why Ive got the game on because U wont stop talking about him</P>

thegreatone
10-09-2010, 05:43 PM
Wow 13 play drive 0 points. Sc defense is on point todat

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:44 PM
man, Clemson already has 4 3rd down conversions on UNC's Defense, i doubt they had that many against Miami all game long, they couldve just had a 5th, but somehow the Clem Reciever dropped a Shovel pass at the sticks...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:45 PM
theres 2 many games on . i like watching NC im just watching them on D. I got Cal and UCLA on right now as well hows Ayers Doing? I forgot that games on, there is way to much going on!!!!lol A sleeper RB for ya Redeye, Bilal Powell of Louisville.. Great Size, and is having a Monster Season, all though he is 25yrs old, but could probably be had Very Late....
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Its why Ive got the game on because U wont stop talking about him</p> sweet.. Hows he doing?

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:47 PM
OMG! U got to go to the ND game right now! Check out this catch by Mike Floyd! its being challenged right now! Incredible!

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 05:52 PM
Quinton Coples is really looking good against Clemson. I think he should stay in school and come out in 2012. There are to many defensive ends to compete with in this class. </P>


Anyone have an opinion Robert Quinn and how is draft stock will be affected. I still see mocks having him a Top 5 pick. I love Quinn but with whats going on Im not sure he gets picked that high.U think theres any chance the Giants could steal him or Austin for that matter in the 2nd -3rd round or am I living in OZ thinking they could be on the board</P>

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 05:57 PM
Quinton Coples is really looking good against Clemson. I think he should stay in school and come out in 2012. There are to many defensive ends to compete with in this class. </p>


Anyone have an opinion Robert Quinn and how is draft stock will be affected. I still see mocks having him a Top 5 pick. I love Quinn but with whats going on Im not sure he gets picked that high.U think theres any chance the Giants could steal him or Austin for that matter in the 2nd -3rd round or am I living in OZ thinking they could be on the board</p> i think austin may drop to round 2 or so, but for some reason, all i have is guys like Kentwan Balmer and Ryan Sims in my mind with him... I know hes a totally diffrent player, but man, the Dt's from UNC seem to be snake bit going pro lately... I really haven't followed Quinn as much, and haven't seen many plays from him either, to comment on him....

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 05:59 PM
theres 2 many games on . i like watching NC im just watching them on D. I got Cal and UCLA on right now as well hows Ayers Doing? I forgot that games on, there is way to much going on!!!!lol A sleeper RB for ya Redeye, Bilal Powell of Louisville.. Great Size, and is having a Monster Season, all though he is 25yrs old, but could probably be had Very Late....
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Its why Ive got the game on because U wont stop talking about him</P>


sweet.. Hows he doing?
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Probably having his worst game this season.He moves around real well though theres a lot to like. UCLA is getting there butts kicked</P>

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 06:02 PM
Quinton Coples is really looking good against Clemson. I think he should stay in school and come out in 2012. There are to many defensive ends to compete with in this class. </P>


Anyone have an opinion Robert Quinn and how is draft stock will be affected. I still see mocks having him a Top 5 pick. I love Quinn but with whats going on Im not sure he gets picked that high.U think theres any chance the Giants could steal him or Austin for that matter in the 2nd -3rd round or am I living in OZ thinking they could be on the board</P>


i think austin may drop to round 2 or so, but for some reason, all i have is guys like Kentwan Balmer and Ryan Sims in my mind with him... I know hes a totally diffrent player, but man, the Dt's from UNC seem to be snake bit going pro lately... I really haven't followed Quinn as much, and haven't seen many plays from him either, to comment on him....
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NC has prodeuced some solid pass rushers Peppers ,Taylor these ends NC has are really good all of them. This teamis so depleted in the secondary they really dont have a chance</P>

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:02 PM
I tell ya guys what.. I'm looking forward to catching a TEMPLE football game.. I really liked what i seen outta that team last yr, watching them a couple times, and i see they got a bunch of prospects this yr, and im very interested to see them play.. I said before the yr the best RB in the nation may be on that team, in Bernard Pierce, and hes having alittle bit of a Sophmore Slump, also being somewhat dinged up.. But, they got a Safety that can play In Jaiquan Jarrett, a LB in Elijah Joseph that can straight up get involved, a OT/G in Darrius Morris, who alot have predicted as a 2nd Rd pick, and of Course Pierce, who is only a Sophmore....

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 06:03 PM
Uh oh Carter just went to the locker room and he is moving his shoulder weird

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:04 PM
theres 2 many games on . i like watching NC im just watching them on D. I got Cal and UCLA on right now as well hows Ayers Doing? I forgot that games on, there is way to much going on!!!!lol A sleeper RB for ya Redeye, Bilal Powell of Louisville.. Great Size, and is having a Monster Season, all though he is 25yrs old, but could probably be had Very Late....
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Its why Ive got the game on because U wont stop talking about him</p>


sweet.. Hows he doing?
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Probably having his worst game this season.He moves around real well though theres a lot to like. UCLA is getting there butts kicked</p> Ya, quickly checked his stats, and i see he hasen't done much, but the kid can flat out play.. Hes made some sort of Impact Play every game of the yr, and more importantly, he plays off blocks very well, and obviously covers better then most SLB's i'd seen in sometime, and has great hands... Hes really really well rounded...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:07 PM
Quinton Coples is really looking good against Clemson. I think he should stay in school and come out in 2012. There are to many defensive ends to compete with in this class. </p>


Anyone have an opinion Robert Quinn and how is draft stock will be affected. I still see mocks having him a Top 5 pick. I love Quinn but with whats going on Im not sure he gets picked that high.U think theres any chance the Giants could steal him or Austin for that matter in the 2nd -3rd round or am I living in OZ thinking they could be on the board</p>


i think austin may drop to round 2 or so, but for some reason, all i have is guys like Kentwan Balmer and Ryan Sims in my mind with him... I know hes a totally diffrent player, but man, the Dt's from UNC seem to be snake bit going pro lately... I really haven't followed Quinn as much, and haven't seen many plays from him either, to comment on him....
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NC has prodeuced some solid pass rushers Peppers ,Taylor these ends NC has are really good all of them. This teamis so depleted in the secondary they really dont have a chance</p> ya, i know they've had a couple sick players, but lately they seem to have fizzled at the DT positon.. Its definetly unfair to put Austin in that group though, especially after how hard i defended people who were bringing up Texas DB's from Prior Past when i was gassing Earl Thomas last yr...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:08 PM
wow, Stephen Garcia's 9-9 3tds in first half...

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 06:11 PM
Man its so obvious Davis is running a dirty program. How does he keep pulling these D-lineman. With the suspended guys he has 4 draftable defensive ends.All of them with the bodies U want long arms,tall, greatspeed.How much is he paying these guys lol

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 06:22 PM
Quinton Coples is really looking good against Clemson. I think he should stay in school and come out in 2012. There are to many defensive ends to compete with in this class. </P>


Anyone have an opinion Robert Quinn and how is draft stock will be affected. I still see mocks having him a Top 5 pick. I love Quinn but with whats going on Im not sure he gets picked that high.U think theres any chance the Giants could steal him or Austin for that matter in the 2nd -3rd round or am I living in OZ thinking they could be on the board</P>


i think austin may drop to round 2 or so, but for some reason, all i have is guys like Kentwan Balmer and Ryan Sims in my mind with him... I know hes a totally diffrent player, but man, the Dt's from UNC seem to be snake bit going pro lately... I really haven't followed Quinn as much, and haven't seen many plays from him either, to comment on him....
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NC has prodeuced some solid pass rushers Peppers ,Taylor these ends NC has are really good all of them. This teamis so depleted in the secondary they really dont have a chance</P>


ya, i know they've had a couple sick players, but lately they seem to have fizzled at the DT positon.. Its definetly unfair to put Austin in that group though, especially after how hard i defended people who were bringing up Texas DB's from Prior Past when i was gassing Earl Thomas last yr...
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I was talking about Quinn.Austin is an underachiever I would only want him if we were getting him in the 3rd round or so</P>

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:34 PM
Man its so obvious Davis is running a dirty program. How does he keep pulling these D-lineman. With the suspended guys he has 4 draftable defensive ends.All of them with the bodies U want long arms,tall, greatspeed.How much is he paying these guys lol lol.




Man, i got a Sleeper Kicker for ya... David RUffer of ND... Kids hit 15straight, and just nailed a 50yrder to keep that streak going, and breaking ND record for Most Kicks straight without a miss, and he did it with a 50yrder, showing much poise... I like him as a Kicker to possibly replace the erratic tynes down the road...

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:35 PM
Quinton Coples is really looking good against Clemson. I think he should stay in school and come out in 2012. There are to many defensive ends to compete with in this class. </p>


Anyone have an opinion Robert Quinn and how is draft stock will be affected. I still see mocks having him a Top 5 pick. I love Quinn but with whats going on Im not sure he gets picked that high.U think theres any chance the Giants could steal him or Austin for that matter in the 2nd -3rd round or am I living in OZ thinking they could be on the board</p>


i think austin may drop to round 2 or so, but for some reason, all i have is guys like Kentwan Balmer and Ryan Sims in my mind with him... I know hes a totally diffrent player, but man, the Dt's from UNC seem to be snake bit going pro lately... I really haven't followed Quinn as much, and haven't seen many plays from him either, to comment on him....
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NC has prodeuced some solid pass rushers Peppers ,Taylor these ends NC has are really good all of them. This teamis so depleted in the secondary they really dont have a chance</p>


ya, i know they've had a couple sick players, but lately they seem to have fizzled at the DT positon.. Its definetly unfair to put Austin in that group though, especially after how hard i defended people who were bringing up Texas DB's from Prior Past when i was gassing Earl Thomas last yr...
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I was talking about Quinn.Austin is an underachiever I would only want him if we were getting him in the 3rd round or so</p> Oh, u asked if there was any chance the giants could steal Quinn or Austin in 2nd or 3rd..

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Denard Robinson looks mighty human against Michigan St today.....

Redeyejedi
10-09-2010, 06:39 PM
Man its so obvious Davis is running a dirty program. How does he keep pulling these D-lineman. With the suspended guys he has 4 draftable defensive ends.All of them with the bodies U want long arms,tall, greatspeed.How much is he paying these guys lol lol.




Man, i got a Sleeper Kicker for ya... David RUffer of ND... Kids hit 15straight, and just nailed a 50yrder to keep that streak going, and breaking ND record for Most Kicks straight without a miss, and he did it with a 50yrder, showing much poise... I like him as a Kicker to possibly replace the erratic tynes down the road...
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State is handling Denard Robinson</P>

nycsportzfan
10-09-2010, 06:42 PM
Dang, Da'quan Bowers is strong...