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RoanokeFan
01-10-2012, 04:38 PM
COUGHLIN GETS SHOT TO JOIN THE GAME'S GREATS (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7444324/2012-nfl-playoffs-new-york-giants-tom-coughlin-missed-being-playoffs) - VIDEO

"On the way to his office Monday, moving a few steps closer to his return to
Green Bay, Tom Coughlin looked much like his football team -- healthier, more
vibrant, no longer walking with such a noticeable limp.


Battered in that sideline collision with the long forgotten New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets),
Coughlin's left leg is better off here at work than it would be at home, resting
while the old man watched another coach merrily freeze his face off on the
visitors' side of Lambeau Field.</p>

"I missed it," Coughlin said of the playoffs. "I missed it a lot."</p>




</p>

So this is why the coach of the <a href="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants">New York
Giants</a> was bouncing around the team facility and hopping up to a podium in a
packed conference room to compliment -- not censure -- the gathered reporters
for making so much postseason noise.</p>




</p>

"Nice to see some enthusiasm in here," Coughlin said through a smile.</p>




</p>

Only nobody was showing any more enthusiasm than the 65-year-old coach who
spent the last two winters out of the tournament, and who discovered the hard
way that his old boss, Bill Parcells, was right: There really are no medals for
trying.</p>




</p>

"Ten wins and being out of it last year, that was miserable," Coughlin said
in a conversation with ESPNNewYork.com. "The whole idea of this is to get into
the playoffs, and to not be involved again, to be one of the 20 teams that go
home, it's just miserable.</p>




</p>

"We missed it for a couple of years, and now we realize how much it hurts to
not be there. So it's exciting, it's fun to be in the chase right now, it's
great for everybody to be back in it. I missed it because of what we're
experiencing right now -- the fun, the exhilaration, the energy, the adrenaline
rush of it all."</p>




</p>

Coughlin is 65 going on 60. He was told it appears he's got enough left in
the tank to coach until he's 70 and beyond, and Coughlin waved off the thought.
"I feel great," he said. "But I'm just thinking about now."</p>




</p>

Now Coughlin faces the challenge of the 15-1 Packers and the chance to win
another Lambeau classic, ultimately win another Super Bowl, and ultimately
establish an enduring legacy among the sport's most prominent winners.</p>

But win or lose Sunday, Coughlin will always have that Ice Bowlish night his
team beat Brett Favre (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/112/brett-favre) in the NFC title game for the
right to beat Tom Brady (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2330/tom-brady) in the biggest game of all. As a
former Packers assistant on two losing teams in the mid-'80s, and as a football
lifer who counts Vince Lombardi among his heroes, Coughlin was asked what it
meant to him to have won a championship game at Lambeau that will be remembered
long after he's gone.</p>




</p>

"I'm not much of a reflector," he said, "and I can't go there now. But as a
body of work? As I look back? Yeah, sure, it means a lot. But the end result is
what we were really after, and I'm just ... well ... thank God we got it."</p>




</p>

He got the Lombardi Trophy, and that name -- Lombardi -- means the world to
him.</p>


"Remember now, I was a player in college when he was at Green Bay," said
Coughlin, a supporting member of the Floyd Little/Larry Csonka backfield at
Syracuse. "And as I was finishing up playing in '67, that was Lombardi's time.
That was the time when he was winning everything.</p>




</p>

"He gained tremendous notoriety because of the style of individual he was,
and the quality of teams he put together, and the way in which they won. As a
young guy aspiring to be a coach one day, Lombardi's style and the way he
operated was something I was naturally attracted to."</p>




</p>

After coaching at three colleges and spending two years as an assistant with
the <a href="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-eagles">Philadelphia
Eagles</a>, Coughlin landed on Forrest Gregg's staff in Green Bay. In the middle
of those dark days for the franchise -- the Packers would go 9-21-1 in
Coughlin's time as wide receivers coach -- the glorious past suddenly appeared
in the form of a ghost. </p>




</p>

"I'm sitting with Forrest in a meeting one day," Coughlin said, "and I'm a
guy who has always read everything about Lombardi that I could ever get my hands
on. And it's during the season, we're working, and the meeting rooms out there
have glass windows, little glass squares.</p>



"There's a knock on the door, and I look up, and I see that face in the
window."</p>




</p>

Vince Lombardi's face.</p>




</p>

"It was Vince Lombardi Jr.," Coughlin said, "but he looks just like his
father. I did a double take, and I couldn't believe it." </p>




</p>

Coughlin cited Lombardi and John Wooden as the significant figures who shaped
his own coaching philosophy. He used to savor his phone conversations with
Wooden, and for the longest time wanted to meet face-to-face with the
Wizard.</p>


In fact, Coughlin put a meeting with Wooden on his personal bucket list. It
was fitting that Coughlin waited until he won a title as a head coach before he
sat down in 2008 with the man who had won 10.</p>




</p>

The three-hour meeting in Wooden's California apartment felt like it lasted
five minutes. "A national treasure," Coughlin called Wooden, and the Giants
coach keeps the Wizard's books and sayings and Pyramid of Success virtues in
this office or on that wall.</p>




</p>

"I've been greatly influenced by John Wooden," Coughlin said, "the way in
which he conducted himself, his thinking, the way he was with his teams. I just
admire him, just like I admire all the great winners, whether it's Wooden,
Lombardi, or Bill Russell.</p>




</p>

"You can't help but notice who they are, what they're all about, how they go
about their business, and so I just try to grab everything I can from them."</p>




</p>

Coughlin pointed toward his many motivational quotes posted in the office
hallways, wedged between the framed jerseys of retired Giants stars. There's one
from George Patton ("I am a fighter. I fight where I am told, and I win where I
fight."), another from Harry Truman ("Work hard, do your best, speak the truth,
assume no airs, trust in God, have no fear."), and another from Confucius ("If
you cannot find it in yourself, where will you go for it?).</p>


"I don't read junk," Coughlin said. "I read biographies and autobiographies,
and anything I read in the offseason, if I can apply it, I'm always reading it
simply to apply it to what we do here."</p>




</p>

Coughlin can match Parcells' two Super Bowl titles here, and put himself in
the company of the all-time NFL greats. When reminded that another ring would
greatly enhance his place in history, Coughlin said, "That's not the goal that I
have. I was taught that it's not about me.</p>




</p>

"It's about us. It's always about us, and about what it would mean to these
young men who have earned the right to be in this competition."</p>




</p>

After a painful two-year absence from this competition, after dominating the
<a href="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons">Atlanta
Falcons</a> in Round 1, Coughlin's team has earned the right to face the Packers
in Sunday's Round 2. If the Giants travel through Green Bay on the road to
another ticker-tape parade, their coach's impact on the franchise and sport will
be much like his bright red face at Lambeau four years back:</p>




</p>

Frozen in time." </p>

GameTime
01-10-2012, 05:09 PM
what Tom Coughlin says and truly believes.....is in a quote below:</P>


Coughlin can match Parcells' two Super Bowl titles here, and put himself in the company of the all-time NFL greats. When reminded that another ring would greatly enhance his place in history, <FONT color=#000080 size=4>Coughlin said, "That's not the goal that I have. I was taught that it's not about me.</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000080 size=4></FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000080 size=4>"It's about us. It's always about us, and about what it would mean to these young men who have earned the right to be in this competition."</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000000>Regarding the above comment form TC all the Rex Ryan lovers can kiss my *** and his *** too. I would play for TC instead of Rex without a doubt. The above quote is what Tom is about 100%.</FONT></P>


</P>

RoanokeFan
01-10-2012, 06:38 PM
TC is really an excellent coach. His detractors will never get it until he's gone.

tikiandphil
01-10-2012, 06:53 PM
TC is really an excellent coach.* His detractors will never get it until he's gone.


THIS !!!!

GameTime
01-10-2012, 06:59 PM
TC is really an excellent coach. <FONT color=#000080 size=4>His detractors will never get it</FONT> until he's gone.
</P>


no they wont.....and it doesnt matter what if they ever do or not....</P>


he is not worth their time.</P>

RoanokeFan
01-10-2012, 07:56 PM
TC is really an excellent coach. <font color="#000080" size="4">His detractors will never get it</font> until he's gone.
</p>


no they wont.....and it doesnt matter what if they ever do or not....</p>


he is not worth their time.</p>

[Y]

egyptian420
01-10-2012, 08:00 PM
Always loved and respected the guy since day one; class act.

I can't think of anyone else who can withstand being a coach in NY and deal with it for as long and as well as he did.

Firenugget
01-10-2012, 08:19 PM
The beginning of your title scared me...

weeds123
01-10-2012, 08:28 PM
The beginning of your title scared me...


Me too... I thought wow... most guys "join the greats" after living a full life ...

Firenugget
01-10-2012, 08:33 PM
I thought Plax came back to get him lol.

CDN_G-FAN
01-10-2012, 08:39 PM
what Tom Coughlin says and truly believes.....is in a quote below:</P>


Coughlin can match Parcells' two Super Bowl titles here, and put himself in the company of the all-time NFL greats. When reminded that another ring would greatly enhance his place in history, <FONT color=#000080 size=4>Coughlin said, "That's not the goal that I have. I was taught that it's not about me.</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000080 size=4></FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000080 size=4>"It's about us. It's always about us, and about what it would mean to these young men who have earned the right to be in this competition."</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#000000>Regarding the above comment form TC all the Rex Ryan lovers can kiss my *** and his *** too. I would play for TC instead of Rex without a doubt. The above quote is what Tom is about 100%.</FONT></P>


*</P>
+1
what he has done here in 8 years is underappreciated.

people talk about the roster and Ernie and all kinds of other stuff, but there have been team after team after team of 'favoured to win a superbowl' that haven't been able to recreate what Coughlin has been able to do.

as a giants fan, i'm indebted to him for what he has brought to this franchise in the age of Rex Ryan and John Harbaugh. Great coaches, but i question their longevity compared to what Coughlin has been able to accomplish.

dan1552
01-10-2012, 08:41 PM
Hey Roanoke fan, Coach came to Iraq to see us in 09 on a coaches tour with gruden, cower and fisher. I could see in his eyes that he was a no nonsense, and honest guy. I have the greatest respect for him and his standards.


his was the only autograph i wanted

egyptian420
01-10-2012, 08:42 PM
The beginning of your title scared me...

lmao me too

giantyankee1976
01-10-2012, 08:52 PM
TC is really an excellent coach. His detractors will never get it until he's gone.


THIS !!!!

THIS X 2

RoanokeFan
01-10-2012, 09:02 PM
The beginning of your title scared me...


Plaxico was at home [;)]

RoanokeFan
01-10-2012, 09:03 PM
Hey Roanoke fan, Coach came to Iraq to see us in 09 on a coaches tour with gruden, cower and fisher. I could see in his eyes that he was a no nonsense, and honest guy. I have the greatest respect for him and his standards.


his was the only autograph i wanted


Great story and thank you for your service and so glad you returned safely.

GameTime
01-10-2012, 09:25 PM
Hey Roanoke fan, Coach came to Iraq to see us in 09 on a coaches tour with gruden, cower and fisher. I could see in his eyes that he was a no nonsense, and honest guy. I have the greatest respect for him and his standards.


his was the only autograph i wanted


Great story and thank you for your service and so glad you returned safely.
</P>


+1</P>

dan1552
01-11-2012, 02:59 AM
Hey Roanoke fan, Coach came to Iraq to see us in 09 on a coaches tour with gruden, cower and fisher. I could see in his eyes that he was a no nonsense, and honest guy. I have the greatest respect for him and his standards.


his was the only autograph i wanted


Great story and thank you for your service and so glad you returned safely.


I told him that the way that he dealt with plaxico was a prime example of holding all players to a single standard .I told him that his standards were what I use to explain my support of the GIANTS ORG when speaking to my subordinate soldiers.

giantyankee1976
01-11-2012, 08:23 AM
Hey Roanoke fan, Coach came to Iraq to see us in 09 on a coaches tour with gruden, cower and fisher. I could see in his eyes that he was a no nonsense, and honest guy. I have the greatest respect for him and his standards.


his was the only autograph i wanted


Great story and thank you for your service and so glad you returned safely.


I told him that the way that he dealt with plaxico was a prime example of holding all players to a single standard .I told him that his standards were what I use to explain my support of the GIANTS ORG when speaking to my subordinate soldiers.


hooah.

11 bang-bang or 19 kill-kill ? (I was 19K10 '02 thru '06)

remember Coughlin, like Belicheck was exposed to a Military mindset early in life.

Discipline's your friend, never the enemy. Ask the Jets.