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SkippyNyG87
01-13-2012, 04:32 AM
This year we are at about $118,357,838 that's $5,310,832 under the cap.

With all the free agents we have next year (we have a lot) our cap is going to be around $81,472,660 that will give us around $38,527,340 in cap space.

Can someone confirm this??

If that's correct we have the money to sign TT, Super Mario, Ross and give Osi, Tuck, JPP and VC a new deal. Plus sign a big free agent.

What you think??

dan1552
01-13-2012, 05:39 AM
Good news, However if next year we have our original players approximately 15 with ( 2) superbowl rings along with this years team; how if any will that effect budget?

SkippyNyG87
01-13-2012, 06:16 AM
Good news, However if next year we have our original players approximately 15 with (* 2) superbowl rings* along with this years team; how if any will that effect budget?


Got a point, some of our free agents will ask for big bucks then. I dunno how it's gonna happen or if we that much cap space. That's an estimate. I wish someone can actually get the real number for us.

nycsportzfan
01-13-2012, 06:29 AM
This year we are at about $118,357,838 that's $5,310,832 under the cap.

With all the free agents we have next year (we have a lot) our cap is going to be around $81,472,660 that will give us around $38,527,340 in cap space.

Can someone confirm this??

If that's correct we have the money to sign TT, Super Mario, Ross and give Osi, Tuck, JPP and VC a new deal. Plus sign a big free agent.

What you think?? I'd let Ross walk as thats why u draft guys like Prince Amukumura to begin with and re-sign TT to a not to rich deal as we don't know how he'll return yet.. As far as Super mario I'd probably let him Walk as well as u see some of the ridiculous contracts Wr's get when there FA's and alot of times you can find that production but simply doing your research and drafting well or if your lucky getting a guy like Cruz as a UDF.. I woulden't go crazy on mario as he would be our 3rd WR and u can't afford to give 3rd WR's the kinda doe i think teams will probably offer mario.. A team like Jacksonville or Clevland or St louis will probably pony up big Doe for mario

TheEnigma
01-13-2012, 06:47 AM
Shamelessly stealing this from another thread:

Those guys are unrestricted free agents:
Mario Manningham
Kareem McKenzie
Jonathan Goff
Aaron Ross
Terrell Thomas
Rocky Bernard
Deon Grant
Dave Tollefson

MM - The money he will want isn't worth being the #3. Ashame since on certain days he can be a good #2 or even a #1. Not the smartest dude but I wish him luck.

Kmac - Thanks for the service throughout the years big man but it's Brewer's time to shine next year.

Goff - Probably. He was looking pretty good in training camp before the injury. I'll be surprised if he's on other teams' radars at the moment.

Ross - Either him or TT. This GB game and whatever else comes will play a huge factor into his future here or elsewhere.

TT - See above. I think we sign one of them and let the other go.

Bernard - They felt pretty damn good about Austin before he got hurt and who knows if they have a DT in their sights. I'd say most likely not since he's overpaid.

Deon - He's regressed from last year even though I like him as a person. Probably another walker.

Tolly - I think we resign him too. There might be interest from other teams but I think most FO's recognize he would be an average starter at best and not worth a big contract.

This isn't even getting into possible cuts. Diehl, Beckum, Sintim, etc.

or trade scenarios like with Osi.

I think we're in store for lots of change on the roster this upcoming season.

jomo
01-13-2012, 06:54 AM
Shamelessly stealing this from another thread: Those guys are unrestricted free agents: Mario Manningham Kareem McKenzie Jonathan Goff Aaron Ross Terrell Thomas Rocky Bernard Deon Grant Dave Tollefson MM - The money he will want isn't worth being the #3. Ashame since on certain days he can be a good #2 or even a #1. Not the smartest dude but I wish him luck. Kmac - Thanks for the service throughout the years big man but it's Brewer's time to shine next year. Goff - Probably. He was looking pretty good in training camp before the injury. I'll be surprised if he's on other teams' radars at the moment. Ross - Either him or TT. This GB game and whatever else comes will play a huge factor into his future here or elsewhere. TT - See above. I think we sign one of them and let the other go. Bernard - They felt pretty damn good about Austin before he got hurt and who knows if they have a DT in their sights. I'd say most likely not since he's overpaid. Deon - He's regressed from last year even though I like him as a person. Probably another walker. Tolly - I think we resign him too. There might be interest from other teams but I think most FO's recognize he would be an average starter at best and not worth a big contract. This isn't even getting into possible cuts. Diehl, Beckum, Sintim, etc. or trade scenarios like with Osi. I think we're in store for lots of change on the roster this upcoming season.If we are not changing we are going backwards. </P>


I agree with all of your comments. I believe that Goff is a value play. If someone likes him, let him walk he's not that good. If we can get him in the right pricing slot then re-sign him. Same is true with MM only it's more likely that someone will give him #1 money which will not work for us. We won't know how to play the TT and AR thing until we know more about TT's progress in rehabbing that knee. Either one of them however shouldn't break the bank.</P>

brad
01-13-2012, 06:57 AM
Shamelessly stealing this from another thread:

Those guys are unrestricted free agents:
Mario Manningham
Kareem McKenzie
Jonathan Goff
Aaron Ross
Terrell Thomas
Rocky Bernard
Deon Grant
Dave Tollefson

MM - The money he will want isn't worth being the #3. Ashame since on certain days he can be a good #2 or even a #1. Not the smartest dude but I wish him luck.

Kmac - Thanks for the service throughout the years big man but it's Brewer's time to shine next year.

Goff - Probably. He was looking pretty good in training camp before the injury. I'll be surprised if he's on other teams' radars at the moment.

Ross - Either him or TT. This GB game and whatever else comes will play a huge factor into his future here or elsewhere.

TT - See above. I think we sign one of them and let the other go.

Bernard - They felt pretty damn good about Austin before he got hurt and who knows if they have a DT in their sights. I'd say most likely not since he's overpaid.

Deon - He's regressed from last year even though I like him as a person. Probably another walker.

Tolly - I think we resign him too. There might be interest from other teams but I think most FO's recognize he would be an average starter at best and not worth a big contract.

This isn't even getting into possible cuts. Diehl, Beckum, Sintim, etc.

or trade scenarios like with Osi.

I think we're in store for lots of change on the roster this upcoming season.

No need for me to say much more... this pretty much says it all

TheAngryTuna
01-13-2012, 08:26 AM
I want to keep Ross. He has been solid for most of the year, and thinking about having to face Brees and Rodgers in the playoffs for the foreseeable future I kind of what that type of talent level in our 4th CB. I don't know much about Coe, Witherspoon or Bruce Johnson, I mean if one of them can out perform Ross than by all means let him walk, but I don't think any of them can.

bLuereverie
01-13-2012, 08:34 AM
We should be around 4 mil in cap space at the moment. That original estimation is a bit dated as it came after Deon Grant and Chase Blackburn resigning.

SkippyNyG87
01-13-2012, 09:15 AM
Thanks for the input guys. I think we are gonna be good next year. We will have the money to sign who we want and fix some contracts. Eli, Rolle and Canty def need to fix their contracts. All tho Eli is ELI'te he is making lots of money and should think bout making this team better. He ain't gonna starve giving up 2 or 3 mill.

Mercury
01-13-2012, 09:29 AM
C'mon man! It all depends what happens from here out. We win the SB, our free agents are gold! They will be picked up by other teams for far more than they are worth. In other words, wait and see.

SkippyNyG87
01-13-2012, 09:34 AM
January 4, 2012

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 2011 * * * *2012 * * * * 2013
Quarterbacks:
Eli Manning * * * *8,500,000 10,750,000 13,000,000
David Carr * * * *810,000

Halfbacks:
Ahmad Bradshaw 1,500,000 3,000,000 3,750,000
Brandon Jacobs 2,900,000 4,400,000
D.J. Ware. * * * * * 685,000 * * * *650,000
Da’Rel Scott * * * * 375,000 * * * *465,000 * * * *550,000
Andre Brown * * * * 96,900

Fullbacks:
Henry Hynoski * * * * 375,000 * * * * 465,000 * * * *550,000

Wide Receivers:
Hakeem Nicks * * * * *575,000 * * * * *750,000 * * * * 925,000
Mario Manningham *1,400,000
Victor Cruz * * * * * 450,000 490,000
Ramses Barden * 525,000 565,000
Devin Thomas * * * * * 600,000
Jerrel Jernigan * * * * * 375,000 *465,000 * * * * *555,000
Dan DePalma * * * * * 96,900
Isaiah Stanback * 96,900
Domenik Hixon * 600,000
Michael Clayton * 810,000

Tight Ends/H-Backs:
Jake Ballard * * * * * *450,000
Travis Beckum * * * * * *525,000 * *565,000
Bear Pascoe * * * * * *525,000
Christian Hopkins * *96,900

Offensive Linemen:
Kareem McKenzie * *4,300,000
David Diehl * * * * * *4,000,000 * *3,825,000 * 4,100,000
James Brewer * * * * * * *375,000 * * 465,000 * * 555,000
Tony Ugoh. 685,000
Selvish Capers * * * 96,900
Chris Snee * * * * * * * 950,000 * * 5,700,000 * *6,450,000
Kevin Boothe * * * * * * * *1,000,000 * * 1,500,000
Mitch Petrus * * * * * * * *450,000 * * *490,000 * * *575,000
David Baas * * * * * * * * 1,000,000 3,000,000 4,250,000
Jim Cordle 375,000 465,000
William Beatty 525,000 565,000
Stacy Andrews 810,000

Defensive Linemen:
Justin Tuck 3,450,000 3,200,000 4,000,000
Osi Umenyiora 3,125,000 3,975,000
Jason Pierre-Paul 475,000 825,00 1,175,000
Dave Tollefson 685,000
Justin Trattou 375,000 465,000
Chris Canty 5,250,000 6,000,000 6,250,000
Linval Joseph 450,000 490,000 575,000
Rocky Bernard 810,000
Jimmy Kennedy 810,000
Dwayne Hendricks 96,900
Marvin Austin 375,000 546,627 668,254
Martin Parker 375,000 465,000 555,000

Linebackers:
Mathias Kiwanuka 1,750,000 4,000,000
Michael Boley 3,500,000 4,000,000 4,250,000
Greg Jones 375,000 465,000 555,000
Jacquian Williams 375,000 465,000. 555,000
Mark Herzlich 375,000 465,000 555,000
Spencer Paysinger 375,000 465,000. 555,000
Chase Blackburn 685,000
Adrian Tracy 96,900
Jonathan Goff 600,000
Clint Sintim 525,000 565,000

Defensive Backs.
Corey Webster 5,000,000 6,500,000 7,000,000
Aaron Ross 1,274,000
Prince Amukamara 375,000. 746,859 1,118,718
Will Blackmon 685,000
Brandon Bing 96,900
Terrell Thomas 600,000
Justin Tryon. 600,000
Bruce Johnson 525,000
Brian Witherspoon 525,000 565,000
Michael Coe 600,000
Kenny Phillips 722,500 880,000
Antrel Rolle 1,250,000 6,750,000 7,000,000
Deon Grant 910,000
Tyler Sash 375,000 465,000 555,000
Derrick Martin 685,000
Chad Jones 405,000 490,000. 575,000

Kickers and Snappers:
Steve Weatherford 700,000
Lawrence Tynes 1,200,000 1,300,000
Zak DeOssie 736,000 874,000

Sorry it's a little sloppy. Did this on my iPhone.

miked1958
01-13-2012, 09:51 AM
This year we are at about $118,357,838 that's $5,310,832 under the cap. With all the free agents we have next year (we have a lot) our cap is going to be around $81,472,660 that will give us around $38,527,340 in cap space. Can someone confirm this?? If that's correct we have the money to sign TT, Super Mario, Ross and give Osi, Tuck, JPP and VC a new deal. Plus sign a big free agent. What you think?? I'd let Ross walk as thats why u draft guys like Prince Amukumura to begin with and re-sign TT to a not to rich deal as we don't know how he'll return yet.. As far as Super mario I'd probably let him Walk as well as u see some of the ridiculous contracts Wr's get when there FA's and alot of times you can find that production but simply doing your research and drafting well or if your lucky getting a guy like Cruz as a UDF.. I woulden't go crazy on mario as he would be our 3rd WR and u can't afford to give 3rd WR's the kinda doe i think teams will probably offer mario.. A team like Jacksonville or Clevland or St louis will probably pony up big Doe for mario</P>


if they pull through and win it this season. they should all suck it up and resign where the giants can afford them all so they can make a run at a repeat. has not been done in a long time. </P>


Recent players has proved that the grass is not always greener when they went for more money instead of staying with us.</P>

TroyArcher
01-13-2012, 09:53 AM
Shamelessly stealing this from another thread: Those guys are unrestricted free agents: Mario Manningham Kareem McKenzie Jonathan Goff Aaron Ross Terrell Thomas Rocky Bernard Deon Grant Dave Tollefson MM - The money he will want isn't worth being the #3. Ashame since on certain days he can be a good #2 or even a #1. Not the smartest dude but I wish him luck. Kmac - Thanks for the service throughout the years big man but it's Brewer's time to shine next year. Goff - Probably. He was looking pretty good in training camp before the injury. I'll be surprised if he's on other teams' radars at the moment. Ross - Either him or TT. This GB game and whatever else comes will play a huge factor into his future here or elsewhere. TT - See above. I think we sign one of them and let the other go. Bernard - They felt pretty damn good about Austin before he got hurt and who knows if they have a DT in their sights. I'd say most likely not since he's overpaid. Deon - He's regressed from last year even though I like him as a person. Probably another walker. Tolly - I think we resign him too. There might be interest from other teams but I think most FO's recognize he would be an average starter at best and not worth a big contract. This isn't even getting into possible cuts. Diehl, Beckum, Sintim, etc. or trade scenarios like with Osi. I think we're in store for lots of change on the roster this upcoming season.</P>


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Very good post. I agree with your thoughts. I think they might be able to keep Osi another year. I don't think I would let Diehl go in the same year Kmac is released. Sintim is gone. Unless Beckum does something amazing the next few weeks he is gone. I hope there is a way to keep Manningham. It is a passing league and I do not see a 3rd option. With injuries you need at least three top receivers. I think Jacobs might go although he has been really good the past few weeks. </P>

gumby742
01-13-2012, 10:03 AM
Shamelessly stealing this from another thread: Those guys are unrestricted free agents: Mario Manningham Kareem McKenzie Jonathan Goff Aaron Ross Terrell Thomas Rocky Bernard Deon Grant Dave Tollefson MM - The money he will want isn't worth being the #3. Ashame since on certain days he can be a good #2 or even a #1. Not the smartest dude but I wish him luck. Kmac - Thanks for the service throughout the years big man but it's Brewer's time to shine next year. Goff - Probably. He was looking pretty good in training camp before the injury. I'll be surprised if he's on other teams' radars at the moment. Ross - Either him or TT. This GB game and whatever else comes will play a huge factor into his future here or elsewhere. TT - See above. I think we sign one of them and let the other go. Bernard - They felt pretty damn good about Austin before he got hurt and who knows if they have a DT in their sights. I'd say most likely not since he's overpaid. Deon - He's regressed from last year even though I like him as a person. Probably another walker. Tolly - I think we resign him too. There might be interest from other teams but I think most FO's recognize he would be an average starter at best and not worth a big contract. This isn't even getting into possible cuts. Diehl, Beckum, Sintim, etc. or trade scenarios like with Osi. I think we're in store for lots of change on the roster this upcoming season.</P>


TT, McKenzie, and MM are the ones in question imo. Everyone else "should" be fairly cheap to resign. McKEnzie is a gonner. I think MM goes because another team is going to give him good money - I'm guessing 5 million a year. TT will be back. We're going to resign him to a deal similar to Kiwi.</P>


Just a guess. I also have a hunch Ross,Goff,Tolly will be back.</P>


What really scares me though is when we have to choose between Cruz and Nicks. I'm just guessing we'll need to if Cruz keeps this pace up.</P>

lawl
01-13-2012, 10:08 AM
Shamelessly stealing this from another thread: Those guys are unrestricted free agents: Mario Manningham Kareem McKenzie Jonathan Goff Aaron Ross Terrell Thomas Rocky Bernard Deon Grant Dave Tollefson MM - The money he will want isn't worth being the #3. Ashame since on certain days he can be a good #2 or even a #1. Not the smartest dude but I wish him luck. Kmac - Thanks for the service throughout the years big man but it's Brewer's time to shine next year. Goff - Probably. He was looking pretty good in training camp before the injury. I'll be surprised if he's on other teams' radars at the moment. Ross - Either him or TT. This GB game and whatever else comes will play a huge factor into his future here or elsewhere. TT - See above. I think we sign one of them and let the other go. Bernard - They felt pretty damn good about Austin before he got hurt and who knows if they have a DT in their sights. I'd say most likely not since he's overpaid. Deon - He's regressed from last year even though I like him as a person. Probably another walker. Tolly - I think we resign him too. There might be interest from other teams but I think most FO's recognize he would be an average starter at best and not worth a big contract. This isn't even getting into possible cuts. Diehl, Beckum, Sintim, etc. or trade scenarios like with Osi. I think we're in store for lots of change on the roster this upcoming season.</P>


Rocky got cut and resigned this past offseason. He's getting less than a mill a year</P>

LondonGman
01-21-2012, 02:20 PM
Looking at next years total cap hit figures (not just salaries but including cap hit bonuses) the Giants actually dont have a *huge* amount of room to play with, as things stand now. Take a look at the figures from spotrac.com, which feel pretty accurate to me - the Giants have a committed spend on next years contracted players with something like $112,000,000 - $115,000,000, give or take a million or two.

(Eli, Snee, Rolle, Baas all get big upgrades in their cap hit value in 2012. The G-men will also have 12 players over $4.5 million value - they have 9 this - in an uncapped year!)

They therefore only have around $15-20 million to spend on free agents (including their own on this years team) before JR and co get to work.

Lets assume they cut Jabobs, giving them $6,900,000 in cap room overnight. As i understand it under the CBA they can also carry over some cap room from this season - something in the region of $5million? That puts the free agency figure somewhere in the region of $20-30,000,000 - a fair amount yes but they then need to spend this on roughly 15 players, with a mixture of starters/semi starters and role players.

That's not a massive amount but for some heavy renegotiation of existing contracts (for example, Canty, Diehl, Rolle, maybe Snee and Eli stand out as contracts where you could save a combined $4m and, hey, presto, have a strong starter in another position. The question is - do you want to potentially piss of five key players - only management will know this).

As for further cuts, Sintim for me stands out and I suspect they will take a deep look at Barden too - his cap figure is $1.4m and thats quite a lot for a WR who has an average of 5 catches a season and who doesn't perform an integral role on special teams.

Its been said above but key retains are for me, for the right price,

1. one of Thomas/Ross,
2. Manningham
3. Ballard,
4. Goff,
5. Weatherford.

If all five of these come back, plus role players, plus maybe one further free agency signing (OT please, pretty please) all under the cap I think the Giants will have a really solid block to attack next year and improve on 9-7 which they have to do to retain the division.

As for Giants free agents value going through the roof if they win the big show - I think that only applies to Ross, Manningham and to a lesser extent maybe Weatherford - Thomas is highly rated but injury effected and Goff has shown talent in fits and starts.

If I were a betting man I'd say Thomas, Goff, Ballard and Weatherford come back on relatively good deals, Manningham gets $ elsewhere (real shame).

SuperManning
01-25-2012, 08:10 AM
i checked the giants salary for 2012 and i also thought itd be around 115,000,000. I doubt the giants will sign any big name free agent besides possibly pro bowl guards carl nicks (NO) or ben grubbs (BAL)

i think the giants resign TT. theres no way he won't be cheap. he's not even a pro bowl player yet. im not saying he wont be a pro bowl player soon but coming off an injury that sidelined him for the year, the giants will get him cheap. I say they sign him over ross who was very inconsistent with his play and he will go to another team for more money. The giants have amakamura for a reason. They wont resign ross. The giants will also resign goff and ballard for cheap. Ballard did not have remarkable numbers. he had solid numbers. not pro bowl calibur numbers. the giants will resign those 3 players mentioned as well as weatherford. he was the MVP of the special teams this year and seems like the successor of jeff feagles. The giants will not be able to resign MM, who will go to another team for more money. McKenzie will be too expensive and I feel the giants will either place Beatty there or draft a replacement.

The only player i could see take a pay cut is Eli because he is the only player that is guaranteed to stay with this team for the next 8 years. He is also being paid top 5 qb money so i could see him take a pay cut to sign a player like nicks(OL) or grubbs(BAL) and/or sign our wrs nicks & cruz to long-term contracts. i believe MM will be replaced with ex-giant steve smith and the giants won't miss anything. the giants need help up front and thats where the draft plays an interesting role. the biggest needs are OL and linebacker.

in my opinion, osi is gone. he gets traded for a 1st round pick from one of the teams from picks 20-32. kiwi plays hybrid DE/OLB and tollefson is resigned. clint sintim plays OLB when kiwi comes in for DE when giants play 3 DEs on the field. Also the giants have marvin austin. they won't resign rocky bernard unless he comes cheap and i doubt he will if the giants win a superbowl. I also think the giants will cut brandon jacobs, unless he's willing to take a significant pay cut

the giants will stick with drafting players and the only free agents i feel the giants will look at, besides their own players will grubbs and nicks. by signing one of those players, the giants can cut diehl and save more money, install beaty into LT and draft a replacement for mckenzie.

Mercury
01-25-2012, 09:03 AM
C'mon man! It all depends what happens from here out. We win the SB, our free agents are gold! They will be picked up by other teams for far more than they are worth. In other words, wait and see.


THIS ^

freeoscar
01-25-2012, 09:22 AM
I feel pretty good - none of those players are difficult to replace for similar or less money outside of Osi. No player (outside of the QB perhaps) should ever sign for less to stay with the giants. Their careers are just too short to not take every dollar they can get.
the tough situations will be nicks and Cruz who are millions under their free market value at this point.

Itlan
01-25-2012, 09:29 AM
C'mon man!* It all depends what happens from* here out.* We win the SB, our free agents are gold!* They will be picked up by other teams for far more than they are worth.* In other words, wait and see.


THIS ^
Remember Gibril Wilson, Kawika Mitchell? We literally let them walk, and for good reason too, and plugged Kenny Phillips right in for Gibril, who has never made another play in his career lol.

Reese is very smart, and knows who plays vital roles (Eli, Tuck, Nicks) and who doesn't, and sees where he can plug new talent in with similar results (don't know if he foresaw Ballard and Cruz, but **** was he confident lol).

Also, RESIGN WEATHERFORD! Will be the most important resigning imo. He pretty much won us that San Francisco game, with excellent directional punting and getting that FG attempt a-go.

LondonGman
01-25-2012, 07:59 PM
Absolutely agree re the re-signing of Weatherford but not as the most important.

Re MM, I absolutely trust JR and co to do the right deal and it is absolutely the case that MM is not worth number one money. He arguably merits number two money and would probably be offered it if not for the emergence of VC.

Of currently contracted receivers in the league for next season the 25-40 highest earners are on $3.5-$2m (hello Hakeem!). That may shift a bit because of all the free agents but I still expect the range to be between $4.5 and $2m for numbers 25 - 50 - ie most number 2s.

By way of reminder, MM's production this year (including post season) will be 650 plus yards, 45 plus catches and 7 tds. That is decent production from a third receiver. 3 of those TDs were in the playoffs. Two of the regular season TDs were against New England and San Fran. Granted the Giants can either let MM go and either go FA or rely on draft picks. On a personal basis I would want him stay for various reasons.

1. He is absolutely worth a spot on the team, for the right price.
2. He has produced. Last year he was unlucky not to get 1000 yards and 10 tds.
3. He is a Giants draft pick and the whole point about producing your own, who then produce, is looking after them later, if you can.

In terms of the alternatives, free agency receivers are infamous for being an expensive bust in the vast majority. I would not go down this route unless there is a steal. Draft picks are, IMO, much better as a way to go but I really have a problem with trying to stay too cheap on a receiving corps that is genuinely one of the most dangerous in the league and who's core threat is that it is triple headed and requires a minimum of 4 defensive backs on most plays.

I know that receivers are ultimately probably not the area that you should sink a huge amount of your budget in but if you have class, particularly young class, just keep it.

I would do this play:

- say you absolutely want MM to stay;
- offer him a 2 year contract with a guarantee of Nicks money on his current contract ($2 and $2.5 cap hits) for those two years plus additional bonus on TDs and yards with an option of a further year at, say, on $3.5m for 2014. This allows him to be a free agent at either 27 or 28, a minimum of $5m guaranteed in the bank over the next two years and the genuine salary of a number 2 receiver on a winning team.

He may of course walk away from this. If it were for more playing time, I would shake him by the hand and wish him good luck.

In my opinion, having had a fairly close look at the various contracts and crunching some numbers, we can definitely afford an additional $2m to keep this group of receivers together for one year minimum. If we seriously need to go somewhere next close season (say, to keep Cruz if his third year is anything like this) then we can always trade him off the roster for a 3rd/4th round pick. One of the current roster or a draft pick this year may emerge to make this choice easier - but I just don't see a player stepping up at the moment to his level.

Basically, letting a quality player in his prime go for nothing just kills me!

pj18
01-25-2012, 08:54 PM
If there's a way to keep our three receivers than do it!