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TuckYou
01-13-2012, 11:18 AM
<H1 class=h3>Who's No. 1? Giants WRs don'tcare</H1>
<P class=h3>http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0112/nfl_u_cruz_nickh_576.jpg</P>
<P class=h3>Hakeem Nicks and Victor Cruz are stars, but neither fits the cliched profile of the diva wide receiver.</P>
<P class=h3>EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Stars ignite quickly in New York, and when new stars get hot they burn bright enough to obscure the ones that were there already. So it is with Victor Cruz (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13553/victor-cruz), the New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) wide receiver who's salsa dancing on the morning talk shows and making tabloid headlines with the birth of his first child.

Cruz is so hot right now that people have nearly forgotten about Hakeem Nicks (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12586/hakeem-nicks), who was the budding star No. 1 receiver around these parts not four months ago. But Nicks doesn't mind. Part of the reason this all works -- and a large part of the reason the Giants find themselves preparing for a divisional-round playoff game Sunday against the Packers in Green Bay -- is that neither of the Giants' star wide receivers is the kind of guy who acts like, well, a star wide receiver.

"We're great friends," Cruz said Wednesday. "We talk all the time. We text each other all the time. When I'm watching film, I'll text him and ask him about something. And because he has a little girl himself and I just had one, I ask him for advice all the time on that. So he's a guy that I definitely look at as a friend -- a guy who's behind me and supports my career 100 percent." </P>
<P class=h3>Yeah, these two guys are a real coach's nightmare. Nicks spends his spare time in the film room, as he has since high school, obsessing over the finer details of his craft, because he never wants to miss an opportunity to get better. Last summer, Cruz took it upon himself to attend every one of Eli Manning (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5526/eli-manning)'s player workouts during the lockout, buddying up to the Giants' quarterback just in case he was going to get an opportunity. Just in case the Giants didn't bring back Steve Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10495/steve-smith) or sign Plaxico Burress (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2139/plaxico-burress) or give Domenik Hixon (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9716/domenik-hixon) the preseason reps at slot receiver or any of the other things they planned to do before giving Cruz a shot.

The Giants' star wideouts are workaholics. They're humble. They're generous and engaging and easy to like. In short, they bear absolutely no resemblance to the cliched profile of the diva wide receiver.

"I think the main thing with both of those guys is that they want to be successful, and they want to be successful as a team," Giants safety Deon Grant (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2188/deon-grant) said. "They don't consider themselves individuals. They know the best way for them to be successful is if we're all successful. And that's a special thing, to have guys that think that way. That's why this is a special group of guys we have in here."

There is a remarkable lack of ego about these Giants. The quarterback doesn't carry himself like a star. The coach doesn't hold himself out as the smartest guy in the league. Even the remarkable self-confidence the Giants have been expressing outwardly over the past few weeks has rung sincere -- a genuine outgrowth of their own improved play on the field. They believe in themselves and each other, and nowhere is that more evident than in the mutual admiration society that is their wide receiver corps.

"We are a dangerous corps," Nicks said. "I feel like we're all No. 1 receivers. With our offense, if you try to take one guy away, it opens it up for the other two guys. You try to take two guys away, it opens it up for the third receiver and the tight end as well."

The third receiver is Mario Manningham (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11329/mario-manningham), a player of considerable skill in his own right who began this season apparently poised for his own stardom before Cruz raced past him as well. Manningham has struggled with knee injuries through the second half of the season, but he had a big game last Sunday in the victory against the Falcons, and says he doesn't mind if people would rather talk about Nicks and Cruz.

"I hope they forgot about me," Manningham said of the Packers. "I like not being under the microscope."

Microscope, spotlight, whatever. The Giants' receivers are perfectly suited to roll with any or all of it. In a town that pumps up its stars to unsustainable levels of fame and expectation, the men who are turning Manning's short passes into long touchdowns every week remain grounded. They remain humble. They remain good friends and good teammates who believe hard work and dedication are the paths to success. For goodness' sake, they are NFL receivers who don't mind if somebody else catches the ball.

"Our coaches are always preaching the mantra of taking the names off the backs of the jerseys," Giants tackle Kareem McKenzie (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2627/kareem-mckenzie) said. "Those guys, because of their personalities, they're a great example of that."

They're exactly what the Giants need. And that's a huge part of the reason the Giants are still playing.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/35164/whos-no-1-giants-wrs-dont-care</P>

gumby742
01-13-2012, 11:21 AM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli finally playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.

GameTime
01-13-2012, 11:28 AM
They, as well as the rest of the TEAM, are.....</P>


<FONT color=#000080 size=6>ALL IN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</FONT></P>

GameTime
01-13-2012, 11:34 AM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli <FONT color=#000080 size=4>finally </FONT>playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


do you have to be a **** all the time with Eli....[:D] Cant you just say:.."Eli is playing well or the offense is playing well". You just have to turn the screws at every chance....[:P]</P>


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TheAngryTuna
01-13-2012, 11:35 AM
Man does this article really put things into perspective, after all, we could be the Jets!

MikeIsaGiant
01-13-2012, 11:38 AM
Hope they are giants for a long time.

Eli has been a leader lately, let's hope it continues

miked1958
01-13-2012, 11:46 AM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli finally playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


i like it. and some people on here were talking about bringing in TO or Moss. PLEASE</P>

miked1958
01-13-2012, 11:46 AM
and Braylon..lol

gumby742
01-13-2012, 12:05 PM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli <FONT color=#000080 size=4>finally </FONT>playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


do you have to be a **** all the time with Eli....[:D] Cant you just say:.."Eli is playing well or the offense is playing well". You just have to turn the screws at every chance....[:P]</P>


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lol. that was completely unintentional i promise you. When i said finally, it was in the context of he has so much talent, and was under achieving. Eli isn't just playing well, he's playing at an insane level.</P>

gumby742
01-13-2012, 12:06 PM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli finally playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


i like it. and some people on here were talking about bringing in TO or Moss. PLEASE</P>


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There was also the Edwards bandwagon when Plax shot himself in the leg. Instead, we waited and drafted Nicks. And those of course that freaked out when Smith got traded.</P>

CTLadyBlue
01-13-2012, 12:19 PM
Hope they are giants for a long time.

Eli has been a leader lately, let's hope it continues

Lately??? You a secret Tiki fan? Dude....where've you been since 2/3/08??

MikeIsaGiant
01-13-2012, 12:27 PM
Hope they are giants for a long time.

Eli has been a leader lately, let's hope it continues

Lately??? You a secret Tiki fan? Dude....where've you been since 2/3/08??

Supposedly not where you are, he's been the truest leader this year if you'd like me to be more specific

GameTime
01-13-2012, 12:32 PM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli <FONT color=#000080 size=4>finally </FONT>playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


do you have to be a **** all the time with Eli....[:D] Cant you just say:.."Eli is playing well or the offense is playing well". You just have to turn the screws at every chance....[:P]</P>


</P>


</P>


lol. that was completely unintentional i promise you. When i said finally, it was in the context of he has so much talent, and was under achieving. Eli isn't just playing well, he's playing at an insane level.</P>


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see Bro......you dont even know you're doing it. It's just comes natural....lol. </P>

gumby742
01-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli <FONT color=#000080 size=4>finally </FONT>playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


do you have to be a **** all the time with Eli....[:D] Cant you just say:.."Eli is playing well or the offense is playing well". You just have to turn the screws at every chance....[:P]</P>


</P>


</P>


lol. that was completely unintentional i promise you. When i said finally, it was in the context of he has so much talent, and was under achieving. Eli isn't just playing well, he's playing at an insane level.</P>


</P>


see Bro......you dont even know you're doing it. It's just comes natural....lol. </P>


</P>


Haha. </P>


Edit: C'mon now if I said, "El is playing well", you'd just come out and say, "He was always playing well." Lose lose for me.</P>

CTLadyBlue
01-13-2012, 02:16 PM
Hope they are giants for a long time.

Eli has been a leader lately, let's hope it continues

Lately??? You a secret Tiki fan? Dude....where've you been since 2/3/08??

Supposedly not where you are, he's been the truest leader this year if you'd like me to be more specific

When you say, "Eli has been a leader lately" says to me that you think he hasn't been until recently. At least that's how I took it. Regardless of the outcome of the last two years, he's always been the leader

GameTime
01-13-2012, 02:36 PM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli <FONT color=#000080 size=4>finally </FONT>playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


do you have to be a **** all the time with Eli....[:D] Cant you just say:.."Eli is playing well or the offense is playing well". You just have to turn the screws at every chance....[:P]</P>


</P>


</P>


lol. that was completely unintentional i promise you. When i said finally, it was in the context of he has so much talent, and was under achieving. Eli isn't just playing well, he's playing at an insane level.</P>


</P>


see Bro......you dont even know you're doing it. It's just comes natural....lol. </P>


</P>


Haha. </P>


Edit: C'mon now if I said, "El is playing well", you'd just come out and say, "He was always playing well." Lose lose for me.</P>


</P>


nah....not me. I dont get into all that debate about Eli and what is thought of him as a player or his ranking amongst other QBs. I usually chime in those threads with some wiseass remarks about the how "all the girls" are at it again about Eli. Stuff like that.....lol</P>


Just cant wait till Sunday......good feeling that they come out and play a really great game and get the win...</P>


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nygsb42champs
01-13-2012, 02:49 PM
It is so nice to see 2 young WR's not being the diva type.

JMFP2
01-13-2012, 02:58 PM
So much of the new attitude among the WRs is based on Eli's influence.</P>


Toomer was always cool, but you look at some of the older Giants offensive "stars" - Shockey, Tiki, Plaxico - these guys were older than Manning, and so, weren't influenced by his attitude. And they all basically ******bagged their way off the team.</P>


Now (really, since Manning was Super Bowl MVP), the mindset on offense has totally changed.....guys like Nicks, Cruz, Ballard, Steve Smith, Boss all carry (carried) themselves with the same maturity and confidence that Eli has displayed.</P>


This is easily the best offense I've ever seen the Giants put on the field.....with the possible exception of 1986, which was a totally different animal.</P>

GameTime
01-13-2012, 03:16 PM
So much of the new attitude among the WRs is based on Eli's influence.</P>


Toomer was always cool, but you look at some of the older Giants offensive "stars" - Shockey, Tiki, Plaxico - these guys were older than Manning, and so, weren't influenced by his attitude. And they all basically ******bagged their way off the team.</P>


Now (really, since Manning was Super Bowl MVP), the mindset on offense has totally changed.....guys like Nicks, Cruz, Ballard, Steve Smith, Boss all carry (carried) themselves with the same maturity and confidence that Eli has displayed.</P>


This is easily the best offense I've ever seen the Giants put on the field.....with the possible exception of 1986, which was a totally different animal.</P>


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I think it much more rests with Tom Coughlin, Jerry Reese, and the Owners. Just look at the quality of character guys they have put on this team over the lastseveral drafts. This is a team with great character not a team "of " characters. Look at what TC preaches..TEAM. ALL IN. UNITY. TOUGHNESS. </P>


These guys are truly a TEAM and it trickles down from the top. The WR corp is just an example. </P>


TC's response theother day about being a part of Giants coaching history. He says" Its all about us. Its what I was taught. Its always about us. About the young men on this team "earning" a chance to compete." ( something along those lines)</P>


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gumby742
01-13-2012, 03:25 PM
Very refreshing indeed. I'm loving the making up this team. Eli <FONT color=#000080 size=4>finally </FONT>playing up to his potential and the defense ..well ... hmmmmm ..we'll see. Hopefully it continues.</P>


do you have to be a **** all the time with Eli....[:D] Cant you just say:.."Eli is playing well or the offense is playing well". You just have to turn the screws at every chance....[:P]</P>


</P>


</P>


lol. that was completely unintentional i promise you. When i said finally, it was in the context of he has so much talent, and was under achieving. Eli isn't just playing well, he's playing at an insane level.</P>


</P>


see Bro......you dont even know you're doing it. It's just comes natural....lol. </P>


</P>


Haha. </P>


Edit: C'mon now if I said, "El is playing well", you'd just come out and say, "He was always playing well." Lose lose for me.</P>


</P>


nah....not me. I dont get into all that debate about Eli and what is thought of him as a player or his ranking amongst other QBs. I usually chime in those threads with some wiseass remarks about the how "all the girls" are at it again about Eli. Stuff like that.....lol</P>


Just cant wait till Sunday......good feeling that they come out and play a really great game and get the win...</P>


</P>


</P>


I have a good feeling but then I remember that the media is hyping us up. And whenever that happens rarely do things go our way.</P>

JMFP2
01-13-2012, 03:32 PM
So much of the new attitude among the WRs is based on Eli's influence.</P>


Toomer was always cool, but you look at some of the older Giants offensive "stars" - Shockey, Tiki, Plaxico - these guys were older than Manning, and so, weren't influenced by his attitude. And they all basically ******bagged their way off the team.</P>


Now (really, since Manning was Super Bowl MVP), the mindset on offense has totally changed.....guys like Nicks, Cruz, Ballard, Steve Smith, Boss all carry (carried) themselves with the same maturity and confidence that Eli has displayed.</P>


This is easily the best offense I've ever seen the Giants put on the field.....with the possible exception of 1986, which was a totally different animal.</P>


</P>


I think it much more rests with Tom Coughlin, Jerry Reese, and the Owners. Just look at the quality of character guys they have put on this team over the lastseveral drafts. This is a team with great character not a team "of " characters. Look at what TC preaches..TEAM. ALL IN. UNITY. TOUGHNESS. </P>


These guys are truly a TEAM and it trickles down from the top. The WR corp is just an example. </P>


TC's response theother day about being a part of Giants coaching history. He says" Its all about us. Its what I was taught. Its always about us. About the young men on this team "earning" a chance to compete." ( something along those lines)</P>


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Ithink it goes hand in hand. </P>


The converse is what you see on the Jets....they drafta young QB, and then sign veteran idiots like Plaxico and Santonio Holmes.</P>


No wonder Sanchez is being thrown under the bus.</P>

Bigg Bluee
01-13-2012, 03:43 PM
Jerry Reese not only finds talent, but he finds class-act talent. College stars with big egos should wise up, because they know the giants won't take them, and quite frankly this is an organization I think everyone wants to be a part of.

GameTime
01-13-2012, 04:33 PM
So much of the new attitude among the WRs is based on Eli's influence.</P>


Toomer was always cool, but you look at some of the older Giants offensive "stars" - Shockey, Tiki, Plaxico - these guys were older than Manning, and so, weren't influenced by his attitude. And they all basically ******bagged their way off the team.</P>


Now (really, since Manning was Super Bowl MVP), the mindset on offense has totally changed.....guys like Nicks, Cruz, Ballard, Steve Smith, Boss all carry (carried) themselves with the same maturity and confidence that Eli has displayed.</P>


This is easily the best offense I've ever seen the Giants put on the field.....with the possible exception of 1986, which was a totally different animal.</P>


</P>


I think it much more rests with Tom Coughlin, Jerry Reese, and the Owners. Just look at the quality of character guys they have put on this team over the lastseveral drafts. This is a team with great character not a team "of " characters. Look at what TC preaches..TEAM. ALL IN. UNITY. TOUGHNESS. </P>


These guys are truly a TEAM and it trickles down from the top. The WR corp is just an example. </P>


TC's response theother day about being a part of Giants coaching history. He says" Its all about us. Its what I was taught. Its always about us. About the young men on this team "earning" a chance to compete." ( something along those lines)</P>


</P>


</P>


Ithink it goes hand in hand. </P>


The converse is what you see on the Jets....they drafta young QB, and then sign veteran idiots like Plaxico and Santonio Holmes.</P>


No wonder Sanchez is being thrown under the bus.</P>


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didnt mean to discount what you said...moreso to add to it..</P>


Olax was OK for the Jets. Dont know if he was one of the ones who spoke out....I dont thnk so though. </P>


Holmes on the other hand.....not a team player...</P>