PDA

View Full Version : Bye Bye Plaxico Burress



bigjeep
08-31-2010, 06:31 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027

G-ManSB42
08-31-2010, 06:36 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

JBlaze23
08-31-2010, 06:40 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

This.

SehornIsGod
08-31-2010, 06:46 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there.

rEaS
08-31-2010, 06:48 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 06:55 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


</P>


Then maybe Plax should have registered his firearm... Or worn a holster. Or **** maybe even engaged the safety.</P>

listenup
08-31-2010, 06:56 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

loaded30
08-31-2010, 06:59 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>Bloomberg wants Plax in the slammer so he wouldn't be on the field to stiff arm his favorite player "Revis Island". Hes a Jets fan end of story.

blueomaha
08-31-2010, 07:01 PM
political football in full effect....

sharick88
08-31-2010, 07:09 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>

George_Vreeland_Hill
08-31-2010, 07:24 PM
Forget Plax.
He was a moron when he was here.
Maybe he has learned a few lessons, but this issue is too late for him.
New York does not fool around when it comes to illegal gun possession.
He had to know that carrying an unregistered firearm is against the law.
He had to know that the gun was not registered in NY.
If he thought otherwise, then he was just plain stupid.
Plaxico's career in the NFL is over.
He messed up.
No one else is to blame.
Not the law.
Not the NFL.
No one but Plax.
I thank him for the Super Bowl winning catch.
He will be best remembered for that.
Unless he continues to mess up.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 07:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?

younggiant
08-31-2010, 07:31 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>
how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 07:33 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

younggiant
08-31-2010, 07:39 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that Totally agree with you my fellow Giants fan.

Roosevelt
08-31-2010, 07:44 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed. I haven't missed the attitude at all.

nYg24
08-31-2010, 08:02 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning.

fortyluv
08-31-2010, 08:10 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</p>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</p>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

Man. I really feel bad for Sehorn is God. I can't imagine what it will be for him having to live the rest of his life without respect from you.

jomo
08-31-2010, 08:11 PM
I, like many of you share the complete bag of feelings regarding Plax.</P>


I am forever greatful for his role in our Super Bowl run and will never forget the Green Bay game.</P>


I also believe that he lacked the necessary self control to be a part of this team going forward. (it started in Pittsbugh)</P>


I wished him no ill will but I couldn't bear to put my Giants passion behind the guy any longer as a prospective player here.</P>


That said, his current treatmentby the justice system is outrageous.</P>


This guy has already been ruined financially because of his actions. How many gun possession convictions cost the perp $30M? </P>


How many guys in NY walk completely on the charges because they are not named Plax?</P>


The guy is a mess and has let his family down and may never be able to climb out of his self created hole. His athletic clock is ticking loudly and who knows if there is anything left next year.</P>


Bloomber and the DA should be ashamed of the way they are singling him out at this juncture. I didn't have a problem with him doing some time but enough is enough.</P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 08:14 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


Would it suck? Yes. Would my family member still deserve whatever sentence s/he was handed down? Yes.</P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 08:15 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed. I haven't missed the attitude at all.
i miss winning.</P>


Plax plays defense?</P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


Would it suck? Yes. Would my family member still deserve whatever sentence s/he was handed down? Yes.</P> sure you right. It's easier said when it doesn't happen to you

younggiant
08-31-2010, 08:22 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Roswell777
08-31-2010, 08:25 PM
Classic example of a guy who got an attitude pass his whole professional career for his skills on the football field and then when he really did screw up, he was a high profile guy, so they made a statement and used him as an example.

I think the punishment doesn't fit the crime and at this point he should be released but I wouldn't want him back on the Giants.

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 08:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


Would it suck? Yes. Would my family member still deserve whatever sentence s/he was handed down? Yes.</P>


sure you right. It's easier said when it doesn't happen to you</P>


How do you know it hasn't?</P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 08:32 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


Would it suck? Yes. Would my family member still deserve whatever sentence s/he was handed down? Yes.</P>


sure you right. It's easier said when it doesn't happen to you</P>


How do you know it hasn't?</P> Can't tell, but your logic is disturbing

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 08:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

"go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that.

if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to.

michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours.

do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars.

i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete.

i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 08:37 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


Would it suck? Yes. Would my family member still deserve whatever sentence s/he was handed down? Yes.</P>


sure you right. It's easier said when it doesn't happen to you</P>


How do you know it hasn't?</P>


Can't tell, but your logic is disturbing</P>


Yup, my logic is disturbing.</P>


Commit a crime. Go to jail.</P>


So very disturbing.</P>

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 08:38 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with.

GameTime
08-31-2010, 08:40 PM
for those of you crying the blues for the treatment Plex is getting did you even bother to read the article???? See below for what the real issue is with the work release program. This is taken right from the article that was posted:

The work release request was Burress' second since he started serving his sentence last September. Such requests are rarely successful -- less than 2 percent of the nearly 27,000 applications received last year were granted, New York prison system spokeswoman Linda Foglia said.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 08:41 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P> The difference is he is a celebrity and your not, so he will feel uncomfortable in a enviroment like that especially with the kind of jewelry he wear. How can you call a female a hoochie? shows the lack of respect you have for women you dont even know.

He has a right to go anywhere he choose not where you decide where he go, no matter who the person is. Like I said he should of had the proper permit, but to say he shouldn't be here or there is just plain ignorant

younggiant
08-31-2010, 08:44 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!!

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 08:49 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!!

it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot.

it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 08:52 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!!

it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot.

it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 08:54 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!!

it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot.

it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.

and i don't usually talk to celebrity groupies, so i guess we have nothing left to say to each other huh? that would be super for me.

eli#10nyg
08-31-2010, 08:55 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


how would YOU feel if that bullet hit someone in YOUR family. don't stick up for the guy that is utterly ridiculous. he made a concious decision and now he is paying the price, i think he could have gotten more time. he doesn't deserve preferential treatment because he is an athlete, and he wanted to get work release to play football?!?!? wtf is that, if you condone his behavior you are as lost as he is, period.</P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


The difference is he is a celebrity and your not, so he will feel uncomfortable in a enviroment like that especially with the kind of jewelry he wear. How can you call a female a hoochie? shows the lack of respect you have for woman you dont even know. He has a right to go anywhere he choose not where you decide where he go, no matter who the person is. Like I said he should of had the proper permit, but to say he shouldn't be here or there is just plain ignorant</P>


What difference does that make? Plenty of celebrities go out in public without feeling the need for or actually carrying weapons.If he feltuncomfortable going certain places, then he shouldn't be going to those places, or wearing a metric **** ton of jewelry.It's called common sense and minimizing risk/exposure.Especially if you are a celebrity, you have more to lose so one would think thatwould lead tobeing more prudent.</P>


I'm not sayingthat Plax should have been a shut in, but he should have used better judgement in where to go. Putting oneselfunnecessarily at risk by going someplace where one willfeel that they may be atarget is counter to one of mankind's most basic instincts... Self-survival. </P>


And as a celebrity, it makes it evenworse that he went to someplace that he felt at risk. Hehas more options of where to go, due to his celebrity status. </P>


Let's face it, Plax is in this messprimarily because he was a moron. The law maybe unfair, but heknew the consequences (or at least should have) of his actions. Heisn't in this mess because Bloomberg targeted him, but because he carelessly decided to break the law.</P>


Then cover it up.</P>

eli#10nyg
08-31-2010, 08:57 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


just because it takes you forever and a day to string some words together to express a thought doesn't mean everyone else here is at that low of an intellectual level. your posts make you look like a fool, i think that is probably why you don't post too much.....[:$]</P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:00 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>

eli#10nyg
08-31-2010, 09:04 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 09:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

"go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that.

if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to.

michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours.

do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars.

i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete.

i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.

eli#10nyg
08-31-2010, 09:06 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that "go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that. if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to. michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours. do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars. i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete. i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.</P>


so you think because you served our country that you are above the law? huh!</P>

GameTime
08-31-2010, 09:07 PM
Plex didnt need a gun where he was. He did have a permit either way. His previous FL permit was expired and highly doubt it was a permit to carry a concealed weapon in public as another poster mentioned. Either way if he was such a gun enthusiast then why isn't he being legal about it. </P>


He effed up.....plain and simple. the reason he is being used as an example possibly is because of ALL THE OTHER IDIOTS OUT THERE WITH ILLEAGALLY HELD GUNS WHO WILL SHOOT SOMEBODY BY ACCIDENT OR ON PURPOSE.</P>


The whole idea is NOT to have weapon or be in a place where you think you need one....</P>


</P>

jasonbourne
08-31-2010, 09:08 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!!

it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot.

it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.

Just like your name states "Young Giant"... Young dumb and full of... well nevermind, Anyways the law is TeH law.. Dont matter what we all think he got what he deserved... I loved plax when he was here still like him.. As a person he was a idiot and took advantage of people. So it is what is 2 years coulda been more..... Alot more..

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:09 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P> Everything you just said don't mean anything to me. Great avatar pic too :(

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 09:10 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that "go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that. if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to. michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours. do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars. i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete. i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.</P>


so you think because you served our country that you are above the law? huh!</P>not above the law....but atleast a little consideration, have you been to afghanistan or I raq? when you come home it is never the same. let me tell ya. did it 3X

Leek21
08-31-2010, 09:15 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there.

IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him.

IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts.

I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.

killerblue8787
08-31-2010, 09:15 PM
I always believe people should be treated equal meaning that if one person gets this punishment the other should too, Now i know other celebs get treatment it does not mean that Plex should be treated the opposite in getting a stricter punishment. If a normal person was in plex shoes he would not have done more than a year in jail its sad he is being punished for being an athlete and Bloomberg using this for his own political agenda. Don't get me wrong when people like stallworth or lohan get short times in jail i am just as pissed but it should not be an excuse to give another person a harsher punishment because others in his same situation gets the special treatment. I think plex if possible should have every right to a work release and the judges decision on why shouldn't is absolutely asinine

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:16 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>

gawd damn you're smart.

every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!!

it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot.

it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.

and i don't usually talk to celebrity groupies, so i guess we have nothing left to say to each other huh? that would be super for me. It would for me too. Just remember you replied first not me. Thank you and have a nice evening.

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 09:18 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

"go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that.

if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to.

michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours.

do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars.

i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete.

i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.

Plax got a penalty that didn't fit the crime.

so that's one.

how many have got far less than the common working man would have received for the same crime? you know how many DUIs walk with a fine compared to how many common men lose their ability to drive for the same DUI?

domestic abuse, weapons charges, etc, etc, etc, the score is so far tilted in favor of these athletes that aren't held to the same standard as the rest of us when it comes to being law abiding members of society.

So plax got the book thrown at him. BFD.

you've got more courage than i do, for what youv'e done for your country, but that shouldn't give you a free pass if you get pulled over for a DUI and nobody was hurt.

and the kicker is the organization, front office, and coaching staff had MULTIPLE meetings with plax and his commitment level to the process established by the head coach, and how often he was ending up on the wrong side of it. he was given a new contract to incent him to just play ball.

and he couldn't even pull that off.

i don't believe for a second that with the trouble we were having with plax that season that we would have repeated.

to me, the year where both tiki and shockey were off the field and plax was just doing his job for a change just happened to be the year that everything came together.

that was NOT how the following year was going at all.

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:18 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>

GameTime
08-31-2010, 09:20 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


allright .........allright..</P>


stop slapping and pinching each otherladies.....</P>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</P>


</P>


[H]</P>

Leek21
08-31-2010, 09:21 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that "go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that. if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to. michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours. do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars. i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete. i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.</P>


so you think because you served our country that you are above the law? huh!</P>not above the law....but atleast a little consideration, have you been to afghanistan or I raq? when you come home it is never the same. let me tell ya. did it 3X

I don't support these wars, never have and never will. But I don't blame the troops, it's the leaders who are sending them out to carry out evils against essentially a civilian population who did nothing to us; and I include Afghanistani's not just Iraqi's when I say they did nothing to us.

But the continuous beat of the propaganda will easily override my truthful and rational position so I don't expect too many of you to understand.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:22 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there.

IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him.

IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts.

I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:25 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that "go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that. if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to. michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours. do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars. i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete. i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.</P>


so you think because you served our country that you are above the law? huh!</P>


not above the law....but atleast a little consideration, have you been to afghanistan or I raq? when you come home it is never the same. let me tell ya. did it 3X</P>


Here's the difference, though. I would imagine even if your weapon wasn't registered or licensed, you would have likely had it properly holstered or even had the safety engaged. You may have even reported the incident to the police, and not checked into the hospital under an assumed name. At some point in time you probably would have made a heartfelt and sincere apology or some other gesture that showed genuine remorse thereby letting the authorities know that you realize the harm you've done and very wellmay have done.</P>


I'll admit, the law is unfair. I'm not for mandatory sentencing of any kind, but it isn't like Plax got anything above the letter of the law. He just didn't get any less. </P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:26 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


allright .........allright..</P>


stop slapping and pinching each other*ladies.....</P>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</P>


*</P>


[H]</P> LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet, but he been using english all his life and he mispelled grammar when he attacking my grammar...lmao

killerblue8787
08-31-2010, 09:26 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question. If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way. Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again. How does keeping plex in prison help society. In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money. When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 09:27 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

"go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that.

if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to.

michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours.

do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars.

i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete.

i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.

Plax got a penalty that didn't fit the crime.

so that's one.

how many have got far less than the common working man would have received for the same crime? you know how many DUIs walk with a fine compared to how many common men lose their ability to drive for the same DUI?

domestic abuse, weapons charges, etc, etc, etc, the score is so far tilted in favor of these athletes that aren't held to the same standard as the rest of us when it comes to being law abiding members of society.

So plax got the book thrown at him. BFD.

you've got more courage than i do, for what youv'e done for your country, but that shouldn't give you a free pass if you get pulled over for a DUI and nobody was hurt.

and the kicker is the organization, front office, and coaching staff had MULTIPLE meetings with plax and his commitment level to the process established by the head coach, and how often he was ending up on the wrong side of it. he was given a new contract to incent him to just play ball.

and he couldn't even pull that off.

i don't believe for a second that with the trouble we were having with plax that season that we would have repeated.

to me, the year where both tiki and shockey were off the field and plax was just doing his job for a change just happened to be the year that everything came together.

that was NOT how the following year was going at all.thanks for saying i have the courage...not quite what u said but good enough. every man has the courage they just need to get a fire under their *** to find it sometimes and thats just what our team needs is that FIRE UNDER THEIR *** to jump start our season. no harm no foul with anyone on this board we are all under pressure for the deep deep desire to prevail under these dark days called PRESEASON

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


allright .........allright..</P>


stop slapping and pinching each otherladies.....</P>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</P>


</P>


[H]</P>


LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet, but he been using english all his life and he mispelled grammar when he attacking my grammar...lmao</P>


Eli was actually defending you there... lol.</P>

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 09:33 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that

"go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that.

if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to.

michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours.

do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars.

i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete.

i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.

Plax got a penalty that didn't fit the crime.

so that's one.

how many have got far less than the common working man would have received for the same crime? you know how many DUIs walk with a fine compared to how many common men lose their ability to drive for the same DUI?

domestic abuse, weapons charges, etc, etc, etc, the score is so far tilted in favor of these athletes that aren't held to the same standard as the rest of us when it comes to being law abiding members of society.

So plax got the book thrown at him. BFD.

you've got more courage than i do, for what youv'e done for your country, but that shouldn't give you a free pass if you get pulled over for a DUI and nobody was hurt.

and the kicker is the organization, front office, and coaching staff had MULTIPLE meetings with plax and his commitment level to the process established by the head coach, and how often he was ending up on the wrong side of it. he was given a new contract to incent him to just play ball.

and he couldn't even pull that off.

i don't believe for a second that with the trouble we were having with plax that season that we would have repeated.

to me, the year where both tiki and shockey were off the field and plax was just doing his job for a change just happened to be the year that everything came together.

that was NOT how the following year was going at all.thanks for saying i have the courage...not quite what u said but good enough. every man has the courage they just need to get a fire under their *** to find it sometimes and thats just what our team needs is that FIRE UNDER THEIR *** to jump start our season. no harm no foul with anyone on this board we are all under pressure for the deep deep desire to prevail under these dark days called PRESEASON

some people put themselves in harm's way to protect society.

and the rest of us depend on the people that put themselves in harm's way. that sacrifice that you (and your families) make for the rest of us can't be valued.

hope we have a great season.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:34 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. How would you feel if you or somebody in your family made the same mistake Plaxico did huh?</P>


how would YOU feel if that bullet hit someone in YOUR family. don't stick up for the guy that is utterly ridiculous. he made a concious decision and now he is paying the price, i think he could have gotten more time. he doesn't deserve preferential treatment because he is an athlete, and he wanted to get work release to play football?!?!? wtf is that, if you condone his behavior you are as lost as he is, period.</P> If it happen to your kid or family member you be singing a different tune....Go kick rocks pal

Future
08-31-2010, 09:35 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>

If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there.

IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him.

IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts.

I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.


^^THISSS



He does not deserve 2 years away for this crime. I mean come on, at least the weapon was registered somewhere at one point in time!



A man shoots himself and gets 2 years, another man same status kills dogs and gets around the same amount of time?? A man buys a wholeee lot of military machine guns and serves a year and a day????!?!?!?!?!? Whats up with the countrys legal system?

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


just because it takes you forever and a day to string some words together to express a thought doesn't mean everyone else here is at that low of an intellectual level. your posts make you look like a fool, i think that is probably why you don't post too much.....[:$]</P> I feel the same way about you buddy. Looking at your avatar you are the funniest looking guy on this board. You don't seem so smart yourself.

pthere55
08-31-2010, 09:36 PM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question. If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way. Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again. How does keeping plex in prison help society. In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money. When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.
</P>


You also forget that prison is also there as a punitive measure, as well; to punish someone for what they have done.</P>


And to say unequivocally that Plax would not have caused any further damage is kind of silly. Given that he was careless enough to wear a handgun in the waistline of his sweatpants while going into a heavily populated area at least once, what's to say that he will not do it again?</P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:37 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


just because it takes you forever and a day to string some words together to express a thought doesn't mean everyone else here is at that low of an intellectual level. your posts make you look like a fool, i think that is probably why you don't post too much.....[:$]</P> I don't post much cause I have plenty other things to do..what about you?

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:38 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


just because it takes you forever and a day to string some words together to express a thought doesn't mean everyone else here is at that low of an intellectual level. your posts make you look like a fool, i think that is probably why you don't post too much.....[:$]</P> I don't post much cause I have plenty other things to do..what about you?

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:38 PM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?</P>


Because the law in NYC carries a two and half year mandatory minimum sentence. </P>

pthere55
08-31-2010, 09:41 PM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?</P>


Because the law in NYC carries a two and half year mandatory minimum sentence. </P>

md carries a year or two mandatory sentence. i still didnt go to jail.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:42 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


allright .........allright..</P>


stop slapping and pinching each other*ladies.....</P>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</P>


*</P>


[H]</P>


LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet, but he been using english all his life and he mispelled grammar when he attacking my grammar...lmao</P>


Eli was actually defending you there... lol.</P> It wasn't meant for eli buddy. Read between the lines okay.

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 09:46 PM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?

how did tank johnson avoid any jail time for literally something like 12 weapons charges and 2 parole violations?

for every plax story there's probably 50 stories of athletes getting far less than you'd get for the same crime.

i don't think Plax' penalty fit his crime, but he's not the rule, he's BY FAR the exception to the way celebrities are usually treated by the court system.

and let's say he got a couple months or probation, the Giants probably would have released him anyway. it's not like the coaching staff hadn't had multiple "zero tolerance" conversations with the guy.

Bottom line, he was on the radar of the coaches and FO big time with the giants at the time (so many fans forget that), and his total lack of understanding of his situation just drove home how little he either cared about what he was being told by the coaches and FO, or how stupid he was in thinking what problem could be caused by putting a loaded gun in the pocket of a pair of jogging pants.

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:47 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.</P>


But, here's a fact you are overlooking...</P>


The law in NYC states that carrying an illegal firearm has a mandatory minimum sentence of 2.5 years.</P>

killerblue8787
08-31-2010, 09:48 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question. If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way. Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again. How does keeping plex in prison help society. In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money. When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.
</p>


You also forget that prison is also there as a punitive measure, as well; to punish someone for what they have done.</p>


And to say unequivocally that Plax would not have caused any further damage is kind of silly. Given that he was careless enough to wear a handgun in the waistline of his sweatpants while going into a heavily populated area at least once, what's to say that he will not do it again?</p>

Your first point is right now i'll add this though to your second point. What has plex done in the past to insist he will make this mistake again he had no priors. In this system of government we tend to side on the defendants side and assume initially that the first time you do a crime that you get a lesser punishment because it is believed at said time that you would not commit the crime again, you can't not assume that a future crime will happen in this system of government we assume no crime will happen, Innocent until proven guilty remember. Most people in his shoes whom had no priors would have most likely gotten no jail time just community service etc... Thus because of that i believe he would not do it again until he does do it again because that is how this government works, you can't arrest or assume future crimes because than it starts going into the whole process of thought crime and that bs. Thats like if i said you might rape a person because you fondle a girl before that we should arrest you before that happens.

If this was a chronic problem than its a different story but for a first time offender no way 2 years should have been given for this crime. Another example at one point or another we have all done something stupid and probably broken the law. Simple as jaywalking we all have done it. We make mistakes and suffer our own punishment from it either from law or internally. To the point we realize that we shouldn't do it again. For example one night i got really drunk, I also regret it and realize it was stupid because how much lack of control i felt on myself and how sick i felt the next day because of it, now when i go out and have a drink i take precautions so it does not happen again. People do learn from mistakes.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:49 PM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?

how did tank johnson avoid any jail time for literally something like 12 weapons charges and 2 parole violations?

for every plax story there's probably 50 stories of athletes getting far less than you'd get for the same crime.

i don't think Plax' penalty fit his crime, but he's not the rule, he's BY FAR the exception to the way celebrities are usually treated by the court system.

and let's say he got a couple months or probation, the Giants probably would have released him anyway. it's not like the coaching staff hadn't had multiple "zero tolerance" conversations with the guy.

Bottom line, he was on the radar of the coaches and FO big time with the giants at the time (so many fans forget that), and his total lack of understanding of his situation just drove home how little he either cared about what he was being told by the coaches and FO, or how stupid he was in thinking what problem could be caused by putting a loaded gun in the pocket of a pair of jogging pants. Hate to say it, but you are 100% right with this comment, the giants situation I mean.

Roosevelt
08-31-2010, 09:50 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed. I haven't missed the attitude at all.


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that. I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:51 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question.* If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way.* Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again.* How does keeping plex in prison help society.* In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money.* When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.*
</p>


You also forget that prison is also there as a punitive measure, as well; to punish someone for what they have done.</p>


And to say unequivocally that Plax would not have caused any further damage is kind of silly. Given that he was careless enough to wear a handgun in the waistline of his sweatpants while going into a heavily populated area at least once, what's to say that he will not do it again?</p>

Your first point is right now i'll add this though to your second point.* What has plex done in the past to insist he will make this mistake again he had no priors.* In this system of government we tend to side on the defendants side and assume initially that the first time you do a crime that you get a lesser punishment because it is believed at said time that* you would not commit the crime again, you can't not assume that a future crime will happen in this system of government we assume no crime will happen, Innocent until proven guilty remember.* Most people in his shoes whom had no priors would have most likely gotten no jail time just community service etc...* Thus because of that i believe he would not do it again until he does do it again because that is how this government works, you can't arrest or assume future crimes because than it starts going into the whole process of thought crime and that bs.
Best post so far :)

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:52 PM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?</P>


Because the law in NYC carries a two and half year mandatory minimum sentence. </P>


md carries a year or two mandatory sentence. i still didnt go to jail.</P>


Then I'd imagine it got pled down, no?That's the case in most of the NYC cases, as well. Most first time offenders don't see any significant jail time... Certainly less than Plax.</P>


While I feel the law in and of itselfto be unfair, it is what it is. It isn't like Plax got punished to a sentence above and beyond the mandatory minimum; he just got the mandatory minimum. I'm sure the fact that Plax tried covering it up and never showed any true remorse for what he did was a considering factor for Bloomberg to push that he get the full minimum. Owning up to one's mistakes can be a powerful thing sometimes.</P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 09:52 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that.* I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 09:56 PM
It wasn't meant for eli buddy. Read between the lines okay.</P>


What lines are there to read between? You said the person misspelled grammar, which I did not, leaving Eli#10nyg as the person you must be referring to. </P>


</P>

Roosevelt
08-31-2010, 09:59 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</p>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</p>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</p>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</p>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</p>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </p>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</p>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</p>


</p>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</p>


</p>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</p>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</p>


</p>


allright .........allright..</p>


stop slapping and pinching each otherladies.....</p>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</p>


</p>


[H]</p> LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet,


No?

Roosevelt
08-31-2010, 10:05 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed. I haven't missed the attitude at all.


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that. I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?


Don't look to me for approval. Go ask your parents.

Jack Robinson
08-31-2010, 10:05 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


</P>


</P>


I agree, but let me ask you this: is this sending a clearmessage to other people--including celebrities and sports figures--who arethinking about carrying weapons in NYC?</P>


City has seen too much and the authorities have made the decision to tolerate NOTHING. </P>


</P>


</P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 10:06 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question. If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way. Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again. How does keeping plex in prison help society. In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money. When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.
</P>


You also forget that prison is also there as a punitive measure, as well; to punish someone for what they have done.</P>


And to say unequivocally that Plax would not have caused any further damage is kind of silly. Given that he was careless enough to wear a handgun in the waistline of his sweatpants while going into a heavily populated area at least once, what's to say that he will not do it again?</P>




Your first point is right now i'll add this though to your second point. What has plex done in the past to insist he will make this mistake again he had no priors. In this system of government we tend to side on the defendants side and assume initially that the first time you do a crime that you get a lesser punishment because it is believed at said time that you would not commit the crime again, you can't not assume that a future crime will happen in this system of government we assume no crime will happen, Innocent until proven guilty remember. Most people in his shoes whom had no priors would have most likely gotten no jail time just community service etc... Thus because of that i believe he would not do it again until he does do it again because that is how this government works, you can't arrest or assume future crimes because than it starts going into the whole process of thought crime and that bs. Thats like if i said you might rape a person because you fondle a girl before that we should arrest you before that happens.

If this was a chronic problem than its a different story but for a first time offender no way 2 years should have been given for this crime. Another example at one point or another we have all done something stupid and probably broken the law. Simple as jaywalking we all have done it. We make mistakes and suffer our own punishment from it either from law or internally. To the point we realize that we shouldn't do it again. For example one night i got really drunk, I also regret it and realize it was stupid because how much lack of control i felt on myself and how sick i felt the next day because of it, now when i go out and have a drink i take precautions so it does not happen again. People do learn from mistakes.
</P>


Well, maybe the fact that he attempted to cover up the incidence played a role in their assessment of whether or not Plax would repeat. Mind you, he did not report the incident, and then tried evading detection by registering at the hospital under an assumed name. Maybe that helped establish a pattern of nonchalance about the rules and laws that govern us that impacted the decision to make Plax serve the minimum sentence outlined for his crime.</P>


And some people have trouble learning from their mistakes. It seems Plax is one of them. He had multiple opportunities before his actions actually became criminal to show that he had matured. Even after signing a contract that had numerous "morality clauses" in it, he still effed up. To me, it seems that Plax would actually be a person that would do something similar again.</P>


</P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:06 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</p>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</p>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</p>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</p>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</p>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </p>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</p>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</p>


</p>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</p>


</p>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</p>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</p>


</p>


allright .........allright..</p>


stop slapping and pinching each other*ladies.....</p>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</p>


*</p>


[H]</p> LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet,


No?
Nope. I'm mixed with Japenese try learning my language and writing it real good in less than two years.

CDN_G-FAN
08-31-2010, 10:08 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


</P>


</P>


I agree, but let me ask you this: is this sending a clearmessage to other people--including celebrities and sports figures--who arethinking about carrying weapons in NYC?</P>


City has seen too much and the authorities have made the decision to tolerate NOTHING. </P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>that's what i was saying to my wife about arranging our next family vacation.</FONT></P>


<FONT color=#ff0000></FONT></P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>until NYC lets me carry my Gloc-9 in the back of my speedo, i'm not coming to NYC........</FONT></P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:08 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that.* I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?


Don't look to me for approval.* Go ask your parents.
Sorry buddy, but I'm a 31yr old woman and my parents live in Japan.

Roosevelt
08-31-2010, 10:10 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</p>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</p>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</p>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</p>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</p>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </p>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</p>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</p>


</p>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</p>


</p>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</p>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</p>


</p>


allright .........allright..</p>


stop slapping and pinching each otherladies.....</p>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</p>


</p>


[H]</p> LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet,


No?
Nope. I'm mixed with Japenese try learning my language and writing it real good in less than two years.

Good luck learning to write English.

When do you plan on learning about the New York Football Giants?

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:12 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</p>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</p>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</p>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</p>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</p>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </p>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</p>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</p>


</p>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</p>


</p>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</p>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</p>


</p>


allright .........allright..</p>


stop slapping and pinching each other*ladies.....</p>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</p>


*</p>


[H]</p> LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet,


No?
Nope. I'm mixed with Japenese try learning my language and writing it real good in less than two years.

Good luck learning to write English.

When do you plan on learning about the New York Football Giants?
Thanks. I already know alot about the Giants. My mom and dad been fans for years now. My dad for 40yrs

FlyingTruck
08-31-2010, 10:12 PM
Quite frankly, you're all morons :)

Do I think Plax, a guy who shot HIMSELF in the leg, is getting treated unfairly? Yes. But what are you going to do about it? He got sentenced 2 years, he should do the 2 years. Then he can worry about trying to get back into football. Although I highly doubt a team will pick him up.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:14 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that.* I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?


Don't look to me for approval.* Go ask your parents.
Sorry buddy, but I'm a 31yr old woman and my parents live in Japan.done done and done stick a fork in it its done. no more about english/japanese this is football and everyone has opinions and screw ups so drop it u 2 go back to the thread about our boy plax and his situation. thanks

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:17 PM
Quite frankly, you're all morons :)

Do I think Plax, a guy who shot HIMSELF in the leg, is getting treated unfairly? Yes. But what are you going to do about it? He got sentenced 2 years, he should do the 2 years. Then he can worry about trying to get back into football. Although I highly doubt a team will pick him up.he will come back home to where he belongs...in a NYG jersey where he left off. thank you and exit stage left

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 10:22 PM
Quite frankly, you're all morons :) Do I think Plax, a guy who shot HIMSELF in the leg, is getting treated unfairly? Yes. But what are you going to do about it? He got sentenced 2 years, he should do the 2 years. Then he can worry about trying to get back into football. Although I highly doubt a team will pick him up.he will come back home to where he belongs...in a NYG jersey where he left off. thank you and exit stage left</P>


Plax will not be a Giant ever again. </P>


Unless he plays baseball, too.</P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 10:24 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


allright .........allright..</P>


stop slapping and pinching each otherladies.....</P>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</P>


</P>


[H]</P>


LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet,


No?
Nope. I'm mixed with Japenese try learning my language and writing it real good in less than two years.

Good luck learning to write English.

When do you plan on learning about the New York Football Giants?
</P>


You better watch out, Rosie. Pretty soon she'll call you ugly or funny looking... </P>

FlyingTruck
08-31-2010, 10:26 PM
Quite frankly, you're all morons :)

Do I think Plax, a guy who shot HIMSELF in the leg, is getting treated unfairly? Yes. But what are you going to do about it? He got sentenced 2 years, he should do the 2 years. Then he can worry about trying to get back into football. Although I highly doubt a team will pick him up.he will come back home to where he belongs...in a NYG jersey where he left off. thank you and exit stage leftI was just like you, thinking he would be back. Now I see that it probably won't happen. I loved what the guy did for us when he wanted to play. He might come out with a chip on his shoulder and want to play hard. But that would be for what? 1 or 2 years? 3 at the most? The guy is getting old. You can pick him up from prison when he gets out though.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:28 PM
Quite frankly, you're all morons :) Do I think Plax, a guy who shot HIMSELF in the leg, is getting treated unfairly? Yes. But what are you going to do about it? He got sentenced 2 years, he should do the 2 years. Then he can worry about trying to get back into football. Although I highly doubt a team will pick him up.he will come back home to where he belongs...in a NYG jersey where he left off. thank you and exit stage left</P>


Plax will not be a Giant ever again. </P>


Unless he plays baseball, too.</P>mark my words his number still awaits his arrival back at the NEW GIANTS STADIUM hellss yeah. we will get him back and at the cheap too

Leek21
08-31-2010, 10:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.</P>


But, here's a fact you are overlooking...</P>


The law in NYC states that carrying an illegal firearm has a mandatory minimum sentence of 2.5 years.</P>

Just because it is the law doesn't mean it is fair and just. There used to be laws in the US not too long ago that whites had the right to enslave blacks.

Just because it's the law it doesn't mean it is not excessive punishment. It is the law and it is still excessive punishment in my opinion.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:28 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that.* I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?


Don't look to me for approval.* Go ask your parents.
Sorry buddy, but I'm a 31yr old woman and my parents live in Japan.done done and done stick a fork in it its done. no more about english/japanese this is football and everyone has opinions and screw ups so drop it u 2 go back to the thread about our boy plax and his situation. thanks I'll talk about whatever I want to talk about until the moderator say otherwise. Thanks.

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:31 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.**Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


allright .........allright..</P>


stop slapping and pinching each other*ladies.....</P>


remember football season is less than two weeks away and Plex is not part of it. Work release or no work release he is a prisoner until further notice......</P>


*</P>


[H]</P>


LMAO. I just learned English over two years ago and still not great yet,


No?
Nope. I'm mixed with Japenese try learning my language and writing it real good in less than two years.

Good luck learning to write English.

When do you plan on learning about the New York Football Giants?
</P>


You better watch out, Rosie. Pretty soon she'll call you ugly or funny looking... </P> Did I call you that? No I didn't. The guy I called that insulted me first by calling me unintelligent and I attacked back. I call it like I see it.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:32 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that.* I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?


Don't look to me for approval.* Go ask your parents.
Sorry buddy, but I'm a 31yr old woman and my parents live in Japan.done done and done stick a fork in it its done. no more about english/japanese this is football and everyone has opinions and screw ups so drop it u 2 go back to the thread about our boy plax and his situation. thanks I'll talk about whatever I want to talk about until the moderator say otherwise. Thanks.i was just trying to put a rest between u 2. no need to get jesty with me i hate that.

FlyingTruck
08-31-2010, 10:34 PM
Could you guys stop quoting that long *** quote? Or you guys so stupid you have to read it over every time you go to post?

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:37 PM
i said goodbye a long time ago..
Same here

Agreed.* I haven't missed the attitude at all.*


i miss winning. LMAO

Not sure what's funny about that.* I don't recall Plax helping us win much in his last season.
It was funny to me. thats okay with you boss?


Don't look to me for approval.* Go ask your parents.
Sorry buddy, but I'm a 31yr old woman and my parents live in Japan.done done and done stick a fork in it its done. no more about english/japanese this is football and everyone has opinions and screw ups so drop it u 2 go back to the thread about our boy plax and his situation. thanks I'll talk about whatever I want to talk about until the moderator say otherwise. Thanks.i was just trying to put a rest between u 2. no need to get jesty with me i hate that. Sorry champ :)

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:37 PM
Could you guys stop quoting that long *** quote? Or you guys so stupid you have to read it over every time you go to post?sorry i just hate an arguement on the boards that has nothing to do with football. now its racial and niether will stop for this thread which kills it for me

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:41 PM
Could you guys stop quoting that long *** quote? Or you guys so stupid you have to read it over every time you go to post?sorry i just hate an arguement on the boards that has nothing to do with football. now its racial and niether will stop for this thread which kills it for me How is it racial because I said I'm Japenese. I see post on here all the time about people saying they are Irish or whatever. It was relevant to what I was talking about at the time.

killerblue8787
08-31-2010, 10:41 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question. If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way. Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again. How does keeping plex in prison help society. In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money. When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.
</p>


You also forget that prison is also there as a punitive measure, as well; to punish someone for what they have done.</p>


And to say unequivocally that Plax would not have caused any further damage is kind of silly. Given that he was careless enough to wear a handgun in the waistline of his sweatpants while going into a heavily populated area at least once, what's to say that he will not do it again?</p>




Your first point is right now i'll add this though to your second point. What has plex done in the past to insist he will make this mistake again he had no priors. In this system of government we tend to side on the defendants side and assume initially that the first time you do a crime that you get a lesser punishment because it is believed at said time that you would not commit the crime again, you can't not assume that a future crime will happen in this system of government we assume no crime will happen, Innocent until proven guilty remember. Most people in his shoes whom had no priors would have most likely gotten no jail time just community service etc... Thus because of that i believe he would not do it again until he does do it again because that is how this government works, you can't arrest or assume future crimes because than it starts going into the whole process of thought crime and that bs. Thats like if i said you might rape a person because you fondle a girl before that we should arrest you before that happens.

If this was a chronic problem than its a different story but for a first time offender no way 2 years should have been given for this crime. Another example at one point or another we have all done something stupid and probably broken the law. Simple as jaywalking we all have done it. We make mistakes and suffer our own punishment from it either from law or internally. To the point we realize that we shouldn't do it again. For example one night i got really drunk, I also regret it and realize it was stupid because how much lack of control i felt on myself and how sick i felt the next day because of it, now when i go out and have a drink i take precautions so it does not happen again. People do learn from mistakes.
</p>


Well, maybe the fact that he attempted to cover up the incidence played a role in their assessment of whether or not Plax would repeat. Mind you, he did not report the incident, and then tried evading detection by registering at the hospital under an assumed name. Maybe that helped establish a pattern of nonchalance about the rules and laws that govern us that impacted the decision to make Plax serve the minimum sentence outlined for his crime.</p>


And some people have trouble learning from their mistakes. It seems Plax is one of them. He had multiple opportunities before his actions actually became criminal to show that he had matured. Even after signing a contract that had numerous "morality clauses" in it, he still effed up. To me, it seems that Plax would actually be a person that would do something similar again.</p>


</p>

Might serve the min sentence for his crime yes but pretty much everyone in plex situation is pleaded down to a lesser crime, Bloomburg purposely did not allow plex to do this to make a political statement which was wrong. If it was Joe shmo from Idaho than what would have happen exactly he would have pleaded down to a lesser charge which would not involve any jail time. Again what you might say is true he has a pattern of not holding high moral behavior but again he was never accused or convicted of any legal crime and were looking at it from a legal standpoint. Again that is your opinion but in the eyes of the law which is at issue here, A. If he complied which he did once it was found out that this did happen he should have been pleaded down there should have never been a day in court for plex and again your letting your own feelings intertwine of Plex and the type of person you felt with with what is the moral and ethical right thing to do. He might he might not again we can not judge the future we can make assumptions but like i said in the previous post in this government we assume no crime has not happend until it happens. You can assume that he might just like i can assume he might not but the issue at hand is in the governments point of view will he do it again. We assume on behalf of the defendant which he would not do it again unless there is a chronic problem.

I think we can both agree while plex played for the giants, he was not the best citizen missing meeting being late to work etc... but that would be an issue for the giants and burress to handle and has little to no implications in the case involving burress with the law. The giants could have and did fine/suspend him that's how he paid for acting immature in his profession.

Thus it comes back to the issue at hand for the crime Plaxico Burress commited on that night did he recieve proper punish within the guidelines of the legal system and was he treated as an equal citizen as others would have been. Did he do the crime, yes did he derserve to be punish yes, did the punishment fit the crime no, would the avg person be punished how plex was no, does it benifit society from this punishment no.

stormin normand
08-31-2010, 10:48 PM
Wow, 8 pages, 106 posts in 4 hours
Plax didn't get this much (press?) when he helped us win the SB.

But I agree it is B-S what they are doing
Politically motivated B-S.

If being stupid were a crime 1/2 of this country would be behind bars and the other 1/2 not far behind.
He broke the law (unconstitional or not)
and is paying the price excessive as it is, and they want to continue to push their political agenda even further.
I beleive average Joe is out on parole by now.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:51 PM
Could you guys stop quoting that long *** quote? Or you guys so stupid you have to read it over every time you go to post?sorry i just hate an arguement on the boards that has nothing to do with football. now its racial and niether will stop for this thread which kills it for me How is it racial because I said I'm Japenese. I see post on here all the time about people saying they are Irish or whatever. It was relevant to what I was talking about at the time.i pm'ed you 2 times during this bs and no respone...so i have figured that this thread has gotten off line and off subject. get it back on the subject or get offline. see? everyone involved on said thread does not want to hear about english/japanese lang. thats not football talk....who cares i cant speak japanese but am still tellling you to stop and be a grown up

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:52 PM
Wow, 5 pages, 106 posts in 4 hours
Plax didn't get this much (press?) when he helped us win the SB.

But I agree it is B-S what they are doing
Politically motivated B-S.

If being stupid were a crime 1/2 of this country would be behind bars and the other 1/2 not far behind.
He broke the law (unconstitional or not)
and is paying the price excessive as it is, and they want to continue to push their political agenda even further.
I beleive average Joe is out on parole by now. Agreed, but you can't convince some of these idiots on here. I bet if it happen to their wife or husband they be *****ing a storm

younggiant
08-31-2010, 10:55 PM
Could you guys stop quoting that long *** quote? Or you guys so stupid you have to read it over every time you go to post?sorry i just hate an arguement on the boards that has nothing to do with football. now its racial and niether will stop for this thread which kills it for me How is it racial because I said I'm Japenese. I see post on here all the time about people saying they are Irish or whatever. It was relevant to what I was talking about at the time.i pm'ed you 2 times during this bs and no respone...so i have figured that this thread has gotten off line and off subject. get it back on the subject or get offline. see? everyone involved on said thread does not want to hear about english/japanese lang. thats not football talk....who cares i cant speak japanese but am still tellling you to stop and be a grown up You talk as if you the Moderator. I didn't check my pm cause I'm cooking that good Japenese and American food while watching the giants SuperBowl 42 victory. I get offline when you pay my internet bill okay?

FIFTY6 G-MAN
08-31-2010, 10:55 PM
Wow, 5 pages, 106 posts in 4 hours
Plax didn't get this much (press?) when he helped us win the SB.

But I agree it is B-S what they are doing
Politically motivated B-S.

If being stupid were a crime 1/2 of this country would be behind bars and the other 1/2 not far behind.
He broke the law (unconstitional or not)
and is paying the price excessive as it is, and they want to continue to push their political agenda even further.
I beleive average Joe is out on parole by now. Agreed, but you can't convince some of these idiots on here. I bet if it happen to their wife or husband they be *****ing a stormsure but its not the place. be the bigger woman and let them talk ****. about your english. i and everyone else read it and it was fine. so PM me back would like to talk offline with you

younggiant
08-31-2010, 11:03 PM
Wow, 5 pages, 106 posts in 4 hours
Plax didn't get this much (press?) when he helped us win the SB.

But I agree it is B-S what they are doing
Politically motivated B-S.

If being stupid were a crime 1/2 of this country would be behind bars and the other 1/2 not far behind.
He broke the law (unconstitional or not)
and is paying the price excessive as it is, and they want to continue to push their political agenda even further.
I beleive average Joe is out on parole by now. Agreed, but you can't convince some of these idiots on here. I bet if it happen to their wife or husband they be *****ing a stormsure but its not the place. be the bigger woman and let them talk ****. about your english. i and everyone else read it and it was fine. so PM me back would like to talk offline with you I pm you so check your box

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 11:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.</P>


But, here's a fact you are overlooking...</P>


The law in NYC states that carrying an illegal firearm has a mandatory minimum sentence of 2.5 years.</P>


Just because it is the law doesn't mean it is fair and just. There used to be laws in the US not too long ago that whites had the right to enslave blacks. Just because it's the law it doesn't mean it is not excessive punishment. It is the law and it is still excessive punishment in my opinion.</P>


Oh for chissakes, Plax's punishment and slavery aren't even remotelyon the same level aseach other. Why do people feel the need to jump past the logical conclusion to prove a point?</P>


And either way, fair and just are two distict entities. Plax's punishment is just, yetunfair, whereas slavery is simply unjust and criminal. </P>

Chaosist
08-31-2010, 11:40 PM
The one thing that boggles my mind is the question. If prison is suppose to protect society from criminals it benefits us that way. Now what we all agree that plex did something really stupid and will most likely not do something like this again. How does keeping plex in prison help society. In fact it hurts society in the sense that you have a man who will not cause any further damage to society in prison wasting tax payers money. When he can be producing in society even as a football player all the work he can do for charities and helping his family plus paying said taxes to help fund other programs it pretty clear that society will benefit from plex being out of prison then within.
</P>


You also forget that prison is also there as a punitive measure, as well; to punish someone for what they have done.</P>


And to say unequivocally that Plax would not have caused any further damage is kind of silly. Given that he was careless enough to wear a handgun in the waistline of his sweatpants while going into a heavily populated area at least once, what's to say that he will not do it again?</P>




Your first point is right now i'll add this though to your second point. What has plex done in the past to insist he will make this mistake again he had no priors. In this system of government we tend to side on the defendants side and assume initially that the first time you do a crime that you get a lesser punishment because it is believed at said time that you would not commit the crime again, you can't not assume that a future crime will happen in this system of government we assume no crime will happen, Innocent until proven guilty remember. Most people in his shoes whom had no priors would have most likely gotten no jail time just community service etc... Thus because of that i believe he would not do it again until he does do it again because that is how this government works, you can't arrest or assume future crimes because than it starts going into the whole process of thought crime and that bs. Thats like if i said you might rape a person because you fondle a girl before that we should arrest you before that happens.

If this was a chronic problem than its a different story but for a first time offender no way 2 years should have been given for this crime. Another example at one point or another we have all done something stupid and probably broken the law. Simple as jaywalking we all have done it. We make mistakes and suffer our own punishment from it either from law or internally. To the point we realize that we shouldn't do it again. For example one night i got really drunk, I also regret it and realize it was stupid because how much lack of control i felt on myself and how sick i felt the next day because of it, now when i go out and have a drink i take precautions so it does not happen again. People do learn from mistakes.
</P>


Well, maybe the fact that he attempted to cover up the incidence played a role in their assessment of whether or not Plax would repeat. Mind you, he did not report the incident, and then tried evading detection by registering at the hospital under an assumed name. Maybe that helped establish a pattern of nonchalance about the rules and laws that govern us that impacted the decision to make Plax serve the minimum sentence outlined for his crime.</P>


And some people have trouble learning from their mistakes. It seems Plax is one of them. He had multiple opportunities before his actions actually became criminal to show that he had matured. Even after signing a contract that had numerous "morality clauses" in it, he still effed up. To me, it seems that Plax would actually be a person that would do something similar again.</P>


</P>




Might serve the min sentence for his crime yes but pretty much everyone in plex situation is pleaded down to a lesser crime, Bloomburg purposely did not allow plex to do this to make a political statement which was wrong. If it was Joe shmo from Idaho than what would have happen exactly he would have pleaded down to a lesser charge which would not involve any jail time. Again what you might say is true he has a pattern of not holding high moral behavior but again he was never accused or convicted of any legal crime and were looking at it from a legal standpoint. Again that is your opinion but in the eyes of the law which is at issue here, A. If he complied which he did once it was found out that this did happen he should have been pleaded down there should have never been a day in court for plex and again your letting your own feelings intertwine of Plex and the type of person you felt with with what is the moral and ethical right thing to do. He might he might not again we can not judge the future we can make assumptions but like i said in the previous post in this government we assume no crime has not happend until it happens. You can assume that he might just like i can assume he might not but the issue at hand is in the governments point of view will he do it again. We assume on behalf of the defendant which he would not do it again unless there is a chronic problem.

I think we can both agree while plex played for the giants, he was not the best citizen missing meeting being late to work etc... but that would be an issue for the giants and burress to handle and has little to no implications in the case involving burress with the law. The giants could have and did fine/suspend him that's how he paid for acting immature in his profession.

Thus it comes back to the issue at hand for the crime Plaxico Burress commited on that night did he recieve proper punish within the guidelines of the legal system and was he treated as an equal citizen as others would have been. Did he do the crime, yes did he derserve to be punish yes, did the punishment fit the crime no, would the avg person be punished how plex was no, does it benifit society from this punishment no.
</P>


Actually, those who received less than the minimum sentence are the ones that receive special treatment. So, your average Joe that gets it pled down to a lesser charge is in fact the one receiving special treatment. And who knows if the Average Joe would have gotten the same treatment as Plax. Most Average Joe's that get arrested for carrying an illegal firearm don't have that firearm go off in a crowded nightclub. It's possible that Bloomberg still would have had a bug up his *** about it even if it was a regular guy.</P>


Also, though he was never convicted of anything, Plax has had a couple domestic reports to his house and two or three civil suits. I'm sure this was taken into consideration, as well.</P>


He didn't comply with the law when it happened... He left the scene and checked into the hospital under the name Harris Smith. That shows that he was trying to avoid taking responsibility for his actions. Granted, I don't think his first call should have been the police, it should have been to get medical attention. But, if he called 911 or for the paramedics, and then allowed the hospital to call the police (which they are required to do), and owned up to it, things may have turned out differently for him.</P>

sharick88
08-31-2010, 11:41 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>
how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.

Simple answer to a simple question. If you have to pack heat going anywhere besides a shooting range or hunting, don't go. Looking out for your *** 101

GiantWarfare
08-31-2010, 11:55 PM
Are you kidding me? FREE PLAX!!!</P>


He accidently shot HIMSELF while packing heat out of fear for his own safety. Yes it was a dumb move...yes he shouldn't have gone in the first place...but still. If he had shot someone then I wouldn't be defending him but that didn't happen so stop playing the "if" card.</P>


Vick executed dozens and dozens of dogs in barbaric ways...electrocution...hanging...shooting and he spends some time...gets an NFL reprieve and he's back to playing like nothing ever happened.</P>


Give Plax a break. He's not Donte Stallworth who killed a man by driving under the influence. He's not sleazy Big Ben who sexually assaults women and can't take no for an answer. He's not even our own LT (thought after these new charges I hesitate to call him ours anymore) who raped an underaged girl. Only person Plax hurt was himself. He's done his time...let him go...sheeeesh.</P>

younggiant
08-31-2010, 11:58 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>
how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.

Simple answer to a simple question. If you have to pack heat going anywhere besides a shooting range or hunting, don't go. Looking out for your *** 101 Tell that to other people who disagree. We can go all day on this, but people disagree with him carrying a illegal firearm and some people agree with him carrying a weapon because of celebrity status. so you ain't going to convince me so go kick rocks oldhead.

younggiant
09-01-2010, 12:00 AM
Are you kidding me? FREE PLAX!!!</P>


He accidently shot HIMSELF while packing heat out of fear for his own safety. Yes it was a dumb move...yes he shouldn't have gone in the first place...but still. If he had shot someone then I wouldn't be defending him but that didn't happen so stop playing the "if" card.</P>


Vick executed dozens and dozens of dogs in barbaric ways...electrocution...hanging...shooting and he spends some time...gets an NFL reprieve and he's back to playing like nothing ever happened.</P>


Give Plax a break. He's not Donte Stallworth who killed a man by driving under the influence. He's not sleazy Big Ben who sexually assaults women and can't take no for an answer. He's not even our own LT (thought after these new charges I hesitate to call him ours anymore) who raped an underaged girl. Only person Plax hurt was himself. He's done his time...let him go...sheeeesh.</P> Thank you. You can't convince these lames. I bet when big Ben was accused they defended him like it was no more tomorrow

listenup
09-01-2010, 12:00 AM
Are you kidding me? FREE PLAX!!!</P>


He accidently shot HIMSELF while packing heat out of fear for his own safety. Yes it was a dumb move...yes he shouldn't have gone in the first place...but still. If he had shot someone then I wouldn't be defending him but that didn't happen so stop playing the "if" card.</P>


Vick executed dozens and dozens of dogs in barbaric ways...electrocution...hanging...shooting and he spends some time...gets an NFL reprieve and he's back to playing like nothing ever happened.</P>


Give Plax a break. He's not Donte Stallworth who killed a man by driving under the influence. He's not sleazy Big Ben who sexually assaults women and can't take no for an answer. He's not even our own LT (thought after these new charges I hesitate to call him ours anymore) who raped an underaged girl. Only person Plax hurt was himself. He's done his time...let him go...sheeeesh.</P>From all the reports I heard LT had no clue she was underage.

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 12:07 AM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


just because it takes you forever and a day to string some words together to express a thought doesn't mean everyone else here is at that low of an intellectual level. your posts make you look like a fool, i think that is probably why you don't post too much.....[:$]</P>


I don't post much cause I have plenty other things to do..what about you?</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>riiiight, </FONT><FONT color=#000000>like getting into meaningless arguments. you probably should get back to those other things a'plenty......</FONT></P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 12:09 AM
Are you kidding me? FREE PLAX!!!</P>


He accidently shot HIMSELF while packing heat out of fear for his own safety. Yes it was a dumb move...yes he shouldn't have gone in the first place...but still. If he had shot someone then I wouldn't be defending him but that didn't happen so stop playing the "if" card.</P>


Vick executed dozens and dozens of dogs in barbaric ways...electrocution...hanging...shooting and he spends some time...gets an NFL reprieve and he's back to playing like nothing ever happened.</P>


Give Plax a break. He's not Donte Stallworth who killed a man by driving under the influence. He's not sleazy Big Ben who sexually assaults women and can't take no for an answer. He's not even our own LT (thought after these new charges I hesitate to call him ours anymore) who raped an underaged girl. Only person Plax hurt was himself. He's done his time...let him go...sheeeesh.</P>


Thank you. You can't convince these lames. I bet when big Ben was accused they defended him like it was no more tomorrow</P>


rapist losers defended big ben. you are just about a close minded little person. you know most of us posters are going to make life on these boards really uncomfortable for you, since you are a know it all wise ***.</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 12:10 AM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


Everything you just said don't mean anything to me. Great avatar pic too :(</P>


thats because you don't understand english.......[:|]</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 12:11 AM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


Ummm... Maybe because that's what responsible adults do. If I feel like my personal safety will be in danger if I go to a certain club, guess what I won't do? I won't go to that club. Want to know why? Because I value my personal safety and realize that if I needed to illegally carry a gun to feel safe, I open myself up to all sorts of negative repercussions. It's called a cost-benefit analysis. The costs of the situation greatly outweighs ANY of the possible benefits. Sorry, grinding up against some hoochie at the club wouldn't be worth my multi-million dollar contract.</P>


Say, Plax actually got held up and used his gun to protect himself. He still would have committed a crime. And may have been subject to even stiffer penalties.</P>


Maybe if Plax wasn't so lax he would have taken the time to either file the necessary paperwork or have his laywers do it, so he would have had the proper registrations and permits. Then he would have only had to face some negligence charges for not properly holstering the gun or having the safety engaged.</P>


Don't play this "society is the problem" card. It's bull****. It's called personal responsibilty. Fair or not, the law is the law, and until the law is changed, we are subject to it.Plax did what he did because he simply didn't care. </P>


gawd damn you're smart. every word brother. every word i agree with. You consider that smart? Wow!!! it's the smartest post in this thread by a long shot. it beats the snot out of "he's a celebrity and you're not...." agrument. Why cause you said so? I usually don't even conversate with people with over 10,000 post in 5yrs. Too much time on their hands.</P>


And if you are attacking intelligence, you should probably be informed that conversate is not a proper word. The word you are looking for there is converse.</P>


</P>


conversate is slang but is recognized in the dictionary, it is to converse or to be engaged in the act of conversation. remember the golden rule for smack talking each other; singling out grammer and spelling makes one look worse than who they are attacking, it comes off as petty. i've had folks try to attack my grammer and i kind of met them with this look: [:|]</P>


</P>


That's why I said it isn't a proper word. And I only did such after an attack on my intelligence.</P>


And btw, it's grammar, not grammer. [;)][:P][6]</P>


</P>


damn.....lol.</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 12:15 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.</P>


become a lawyer and contribute to writing the laws, until you do that you don't have any ground to base your disagreement. he broke a law and he is serving his time for it. he could have killed someone. now someone like donte stallworth served less time when he did kill someone, and its sucks, BUT the laws are the laws, write your congressman, don't cry about it on a msg board. </P>


NYC has a zero tolerance approach to their illegal fire arm laws. plax was a "big enough," man to carry a gun, he should have been smart enough to know wha tthe laws were. maybe thats why you stick up for him; you and him have that lack of basic intelligence thing going for you.</P>


you don't break a law when the penalty was in place beforehand, and then cry about serving the time when the penalty is carried out. that is something the "children," you mentioned would do.</P>

slipknottin
09-01-2010, 12:19 AM
As a celebrity who had legitimate reason to fear for his safety, plaxico could have applied and likely been approved to carry a handgun in NYC. (tho it's doubtful he would have passed the gun safety course required).

Also, as someone making millions of dollars is it really that far fetched to hire a security person? Seems it would be smarter to let them deal with laws and such things rather than risk getting yourself in trouble.

flatblack
09-01-2010, 12:40 AM
and if plax's gun discharging killed your son or daughter you'd be *****ing a storm too...you sound so idiotic in your responses....SERIOUSLY, if plax's gun discharges and killed a member of YOUR family, accidentally or not, would you still be writing this stupidity?!?!

Out of Exile
09-01-2010, 05:35 AM
Plax was wrong. People need to get the **** over it.

YoungGiant is also a complete idiot. How old is she? 14. No logic whatsoever.

Plax could have gotten someone killed. Not to mention the man was not responsible with the gun to begin with. If the SAFETY was on this doesn't even happen.

I am all for people owning guns and having them concealed. BUT YOU NEED to have it registered.

End of message

Out of Exile
09-01-2010, 05:40 AM
and if plax's gun discharging killed your son or daughter you'd be *****ing a storm too...you sound so idiotic in your responses....SERIOUSLY, if plax's gun discharges and killed a member of YOUR family, accidentally or not, would you still be writing this stupidity?!?!


THANK YOU

Out of Exile
09-01-2010, 05:40 AM
Wow, 5 pages, 106 posts in 4 hours
Plax didn't get this much (press?) when he helped us win the SB.

But I agree it is B-S what they are doing
Politically motivated B-S.

If being stupid were a crime 1/2 of this country would be behind bars and the other 1/2 not far behind.
He broke the law (unconstitional or not)
and is paying the price excessive as it is, and they want to continue to push their political agenda even further.
I beleive average Joe is out on parole by now. Agreed, but you can't convince some of these idiots on here. I bet if it happen to their wife or husband they be *****ing a storm

Since we are speaking in what if. Well what if Plax's gun went off and killed your mom?

GMENAGAIN
09-01-2010, 07:20 AM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


<FONT size=5>how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable.</FONT> I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit.</P>


One of the dumbeststatements ever on the MB.</P>


Congrats!</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 09:03 AM
Plax was wrong. People need to get the **** over it. YoungGiant is also a complete idiot. How old is she? 14. No logic whatsoever. Plax could have gotten someone killed. Not to mention the man was not responsible with the gun to begin with. If the SAFETY was on this doesn't even happen. I am all for people owning guns and having them concealed. BUT YOU NEED to have it registered. End of message</P>


+1......and yes younggiant is a complete moron, whoever is raising this kid needs to take their computer priviledges away......</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 09:25 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. go stick a dagger in your eye. he did what he had to do and even had a concealed permit in florida, however it did expire, so that mean he did forget some things which is easy to do on a superbowl run. if ya wanna make comments on that do it on a crime website not here cause i give you ZERO respect! so he shot himself and that should be enough to have him wake up to keep his permits inthe current. he didnt even try to point or shoot anyone else. go back to your raiders or cowboys board with criminal comments like that "go stick a dagger in your eye" is the actual criminal comment. hope you get a vacation for that. if you can't see how spoiled pro athletes are, and how good making an example of a complete idiot like plax is, then you should just put on a wig and some lipstick and then you can properly worship these dudes like you sound like you want to. michael irving was just holding a crack pipe for a friend, OJ is gonna hunt down the real killer, Pacman didn't know the guy that killed that other guy around the strip club, or showed up late to the meeting with goodall to explain the incident, Randy Moss thought the meter maid was out of the way of his SUV when he ran her over, LT didn't know how old the prostitute was, Rothlesberger says the first girl was lying, and the 2nd girl too, Jamal Lewis wasn't actually trying to pull off a 5 key drug deal, he was just phoning a good friend......i could go on for hours. do this stuff if you're unhappy with the national noteriety and the millions of dollars. i'm sick of the spoiled brat mentality of the pro athlete. i'll save my sympathy for the common working man who toils away for next to no money just hoping to catch a break in life.im sick of it too. however, lindsey lohan spent 12 days in jail in cali. on a 90 day sentence. so... with that said she screwed up...Plax screwed up nobody hurt except for himself. I am the common/uncommon working military man. so with that said and 18 years in the bank defending my country....if i shoot myself in the leg with an unregistered weapon and nobody else is hurt..do you want me in the slammer for 2 plus years. i have put my life on the line more than 3X and if i screw up should i face the music that many AMERICANS wont even face cause they have money? enough of the crap..it was a minor incedent that only caused harm to himself and our beloved team. get off your HIGH horse and respect what he has done and what he could have done 2 in a row.</P>


so you think because you served our country that you are above the law? huh!</P>


not above the law....but atleast a little consideration, have you been to afghanistan or I raq? when you come home it is never the same. let me tell ya. did it 3X</P>


a little consideration for someone who served the country and has the mindset to be armed, and a pro athlete thinking he is above the law are 2 different things. thanks for helping us out, i have a good friend whose brotheris in the army; he is a sniper and has been to iraq also.</P>

burier
09-01-2010, 09:28 AM
its really not fair. People saying he should have done this and done that must have never made a mistake in their lives. He did something stupid. Maybe it could have been worse but it wasn't. He shot himself. I think the punishment needs to fit the crime. And I had no expectation of Plax returning to the Giants regardless and wasn't a huge fan of his while he was here anyway. But fair is fair and so is Bull****.

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 09:32 AM
the punisment is way too excessive. I got caught wit a firearm in md without a permit and got 18 months probation. how did an nfl superstar get two years in jail?</P>


Because the law in NYC carries a two and half year mandatory minimum sentence. </P>


md carries a year or two mandatory sentence. i still didnt go to jail.</P>


if this is true and i doubt it is, the judge has the right to hand down any sentence that is within the law, and he did in plax's case. why don't you call the judge who sentenced you and give him a hard time for going easy on you, andstop crying about the judge not going too easy on plax? </P>


also a judge has a lot less likely chance of making an example out of a no-name like you than he does a football star. plax needed tobe taughthe wasn't above the law, sending a message to the rest of the league in the process.unless we want to take the chance of another possible OJ type incident in the future.....</P>

Joe Morrison
09-01-2010, 09:33 AM
The whole justice system is a joke, when guys like Ray Lewis, Pac Man Jones and Dante Stallworth can make plea deals and not spend 1 day in prison vs's a guy who shoots himself in the leg and pleads guilty has to spend 2 years in jail, what a joke.
I hope Mayor Bloomberg is proud of himself because he is the only reason Plax is still locked up.
Crimminals in NYC who have been convicted of armed robbery got less time than Plax.

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 09:34 AM
its really not fair. People saying he should have done this and done that must have never made a mistake in their lives. He did something stupid. Maybe it could have been worse but it wasn't. He shot himself. I think the punishment needs to fit the crime. And I had no expectation of Plax returning to the Giants regardless and wasn't a huge fan of his while he was here anyway. But fair is fair and so is Bull****.</P>


again you don't break the law and than cry about the penalty which was in place and known before the crime was committed. it makes no sense and neither do you.....</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 09:34 AM
<FONT size=5>The whole justice system is a joke</FONT>, when guys like Ray Lewis, Pac Man Jones and Dante Stallworth can make plea deals and not spend 1 day in prison vs's a guy who shoots himself in the leg and pleads guilty has to spend 2 years in jail, what a joke. I hope Mayor Bloomberg is proud of himself because he is the only reason Plax is still locked up. Crimminals in NYC who have been convicted of armed robbery got less time than Plax.</P>


you got that right.</P>

GMENAGAIN
09-01-2010, 09:42 AM
its really not fair. People saying he should have done this and done that must have never made a mistake in their lives. He did something stupid. Maybe it could have been worse but it wasn't. He shot himself. I think the punishment needs to fit the crime. And I had no expectation of Plax returning to the Giants regardless and wasn't a huge fan of his while he was here anyway. But fair is fair and so is Bull****.</P>


Can't almost every crime be characterized as "stupid" or a "mistake"??? </P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 09:48 AM
its really not fair. People saying he should have done this and done that must have never made a mistake in their lives. He did something stupid. Maybe it could have been worse but it wasn't. He shot himself. I think the punishment needs to fit the crime. And I had no expectation of Plax returning to the Giants regardless and wasn't a huge fan of his while he was here anyway. But fair is fair and so is Bull****.</P>


Can't almost every crime be characterized as "stupid" or a "mistake"??? </P>


</P>


after the fact, of course it can, lol. isn't that the american way.....[:P]</P>

bigblue58
09-01-2010, 10:57 AM
I said it before, and I will shout it from the rooftops again and again..........If Michael "lowlife" Vick can be out of jail already and playing football again after what he did, then by comparison, Burress should have never gone to jail in the first place!
They parole a sadistic piece of garbage who murdered and tortured dogs..... but throw the book at a guy who is fundamentally decent (albeit rules challenged)..... and shot himself!
Oh my god...... he lied to a guard so that he could use the phone.....he wasn't found sewing crack cocaine into his mattress!
The irony of course..... is that the whatever crimminal Burress was carrying the gun to protect himself from, is already ON work release right now!

sharick88
09-01-2010, 12:55 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit. Simple answer to a simple question. If you have to pack heat going anywhere besides a shooting range or hunting, don't go. Looking out for your *** 101 Tell that to other people who disagree. We can go all day on this, but people disagree with him carrying a illegal firearm and some people agree with him carrying a weapon because of celebrity status. so you ain't going to convince me so go kick rocks oldhead.</P>


Oldhead? I'm 27 years old. That probably is old to you because you are certainly acting like a teenager. Anyways, don't get all mad at me because you are getting your panties tied in a knot over someone disagreeing with you on a message board. If you have to take a gun somewhere for any reason besides a shooting range or hunting, you shouldn't go there. You're only asking for trouble. The place he went to withthe gunwas even more unbelievable because alcohol (he was at the club, so most likely he probably was gonna drink) and guns do not mix. I'm not a "what if" guy, so I won't bore you with that ****. Before you try to hit me up with the race card, I am black and I think what he did was dumb. Ignorance has no color. For him to actually shoot himself in the leg by accident is even dumber. Yeah, I think he should have gotten just a few months and/or 3 years probation, but NY laws are what they are. He was unfortunately made an example out of. He has no one to blame but himself. It's not the law's fault. It's his fault. I'm sorry, but you can't defend stupid.</P>

Leek21
09-01-2010, 01:13 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.</P>


But, here's a fact you are overlooking...</P>


The law in NYC states that carrying an illegal firearm has a mandatory minimum sentence of 2.5 years.</P>


Just because it is the law doesn't mean it is fair and just. There used to be laws in the US not too long ago that whites had the right to enslave blacks. Just because it's the law it doesn't mean it is not excessive punishment. It is the law and it is still excessive punishment in my opinion.</P>


Oh for chissakes, Plax's punishment and slavery aren't even remotely*on the same level as*each other. Why do people feel the need to jump past the logical conclusion to prove a point?</P>


And either way, fair and just are two distict entities. Plax's punishment is just, yet*unfair, whereas slavery is simply unjust and criminal. </P>

You missed the point and went off on your own tagent about slavery. My point if you read it as it is written was never to compare Plax's situation with slavery.

My point was just because it is the law does not mean it is just or fair or even right.

In my opinion the punishment for what Plax did is far too excessive, years in jail, loss of millions of dollars and his football career. It's way too much for what he did, in my opinion.

My point was never to compare his situation with slavery.

Leek21
09-01-2010, 01:16 PM
As a celebrity who had legitimate reason to fear for his safety, plaxico could have applied and likely been approved to carry a handgun in NYC. (tho it's doubtful he would have passed the gun safety course required).

Also, as someone making millions of dollars is it really that far fetched to hire a security person? Seems it would be smarter to let them deal with laws and such things rather than risk getting yourself in trouble.

I don't think anyone is arguing Plax did the right thing. He obviously shouldn't have had the gun with him.

The point of contention is the punishment for the crime. I believe the punishment should fit the crime, but in this case the punishment far exceeds the crime committed.

So I agree with what you are saying, what he did was stupid and worthy of punishment, but the punishment should fit the crime.

Roswell777
09-01-2010, 01:24 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</p>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</p>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years.</p>


But, here's a fact you are overlooking...</p>


The law in NYC states that carrying an illegal firearm has a mandatory minimum sentence of 2.5 years.</p>


Just because it is the law doesn't mean it is fair and just. There used to be laws in the US not too long ago that whites had the right to enslave blacks. Just because it's the law it doesn't mean it is not excessive punishment. It is the law and it is still excessive punishment in my opinion.</p>


Oh for chissakes, Plax's punishment and slavery aren't even remotelyon the same level aseach other. Why do people feel the need to jump past the logical conclusion to prove a point?</p>


And either way, fair and just are two distict entities. Plax's punishment is just, yetunfair, whereas slavery is simply unjust and criminal. </p>

You missed the point and went off on your own tagent about slavery. My point if you read it as it is written was never to compare Plax's situation with slavery.

My point was just because it is the law does not mean it is just or fair or even right.

In my opinion the punishment for what Plax did is far too excessive, years in jail, loss of millions of dollars and his football career. It's way too much for what he did, in my opinion.

My point was never to compare his situation with slavery.

The fact that Burress lost a lot of money due to his own actions is irrelevant. You can't sentence a guy based on his potential loss of earnings. I agree with you that he has paid a very high price for his actions, but that's because he was a football star. If anything, it makes what he did even more ridiculous. But they can't let him out early because "well, the guy's lost millions. So let's give him a break."

His whole career has been about doing what he wants, when he wants. This time it cost him.

Joe Morrison
09-01-2010, 01:30 PM
The law in NYC states that carrying an illegal firearm has a mandatory minimum sentence of 2.5 years.

And with good behavior should have been out in 6 months, your killing me, Bloomberg is keeping him there, case closed.

ny06
09-01-2010, 01:32 PM
http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy43/bonezMTA/sl2vqe.gif

ny06
09-01-2010, 01:32 PM
http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy43/bonezMTA/sl2vqe.gif

ShockeyShow
09-01-2010, 01:32 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


</P>


Then maybe Plax should have registered his firearm... Or worn a holster. Or **** maybe even engaged the safety.</P>

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Or how about having a buddy carry one for your protection. Plax was not using his noggin, and now he has to pay the penalty.

He is being made an example of...but come on! Use your head!

bigjeep
09-01-2010, 01:36 PM
Ok, I think we're beating a dead horse here!

Dude-LAP
09-01-2010, 02:12 PM
Plaxico Burress is innocent! We should all be looking for Harris Smith!

Out of Exile
09-01-2010, 02:21 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time?

I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 02:39 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit. Simple answer to a simple question. If you have to pack heat going anywhere besides a shooting range or hunting, don't go. Looking out for your *** 101 Tell that to other people who disagree. We can go all day on this, but people disagree with him carrying a illegal firearm and some people agree with him carrying a weapon because of celebrity status. so you ain't going to convince me so go kick rocks oldhead.</P>


Oldhead? I'm 27 years old. That probably is old to you because you are certainly acting like a teenager. Anyways, don't get all mad at me because <FONT size=5><U>you are getting your panties tied in a knot</U></FONT> over someone disagreeing with you on a message board. If you have to take a gun somewhere for any reason besides a shooting range or hunting, you shouldn't go there. You're only asking for trouble. The place he went to withthe gunwas even more unbelievable because alcohol (he was at the club, so most likely he probably was gonna drink) and guns do not mix. I'm not a "what if" guy, so I won't bore you with that ****. Before you try to hit me up with the race card, I am black and I think what he did was dumb. Ignorance has no color. For him to actually shoot himself in the leg by accident is even dumber. Yeah, I think he should have gotten just a few months and/or 3 years probation, but NY laws are what they are. He was unfortunately made an example out of. He has no one to blame but himself. It's not the law's fault. It's his fault. I'm sorry, but you can't defend stupid.</P>


</P>


hey, maybe he doesn't care how his lite beer tastes.........</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 02:42 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>

sharick88
09-01-2010, 02:48 PM
Plaxico Burress is innocent! We should all be looking for Harris Smith!
</P>


Somewhere, Ron Mexico is LHAO</P>

Out of Exile
09-01-2010, 04:29 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>

Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire.

F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW.

sharick88
09-01-2010, 04:43 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire. F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW.</P>


Whoever gave him his legal advice should give Plaxico Burress his money back.</P>

Chaosist
09-01-2010, 05:19 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire. F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW.</P>


Whoever gave him his legal advice should give Plaxico Burress his money back.</P>


</P>


It was Plax. He wanted to try and get a deal where he wouldn't miss much football. I vaguely remember reading an article about how Plax turned down a deal that was either 6 mos or 12 mos. I don't know how much of that was fact or rumor, but either way, it's believeable.</P>

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:26 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>

Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire.

F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW. He felt he was not guilty so why plead bargain if you feel you are not guilty.

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:29 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P> It's easy to say that when you haven't spent six months in jail before.

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:35 PM
Oh well. Maybe the "we want plax back" threads will come to a grinding halt. Regardless of how much time he deserved for his actions or how he did or did not get screwed, he's the dumb *** that did this to himself. If you need to pack heat to go anywhere, you shouldn't go there.</P>


how can you tell somebody not to go somewhere without packing heat if they feel uncomfortable. I just think he should of had a permit to carry or a bodyguard with a permit. Simple answer to a simple question. If you have to pack heat going anywhere besides a shooting range or hunting, don't go. Looking out for your *** 101 Tell that to other people who disagree. We can go all day on this, but people disagree with him carrying a illegal firearm and some people agree with him carrying a weapon because of celebrity status. so you ain't going to convince me so go kick rocks oldhead.</P>


Oldhead? I'm 27 years old. That probably is old to you because you are certainly acting like a teenager. Anyways, don't get all mad at me because you are getting your panties tied in a knot over someone disagreeing with you on a message board. If you have to take a gun somewhere for any reason besides a shooting range or hunting, you shouldn't go there. You're only asking for trouble. The place he went to with*the gun*was even more unbelievable because alcohol (he was at the club, so most likely he probably was gonna drink) and guns do not mix. I'm not a "what if" guy, so I won't bore you with that ****. Before you try to hit me up with the race card, I am black and I think what he did was dumb. Ignorance has no color. For him to actually shoot himself in the leg by accident is even dumber. Yeah, I think he should have gotten just a few months and/or 3 years probation, but NY laws are what they are. He was unfortunately made an example out of. He has no one to blame but himself. It's not the law's fault. It's his fault. I'm sorry, but you can't defend stupid.</P> What race card are you talking about? smh. I agree to disagree so we'll leave it at that, cool?

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:42 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.</P>


become a lawyer and contribute to writing the laws, until you do that you don't have any ground to base your disagreement. he broke a law and he is serving his time for it. he could have killed someone. now someone like donte stallworth served less time when he did kill someone, and its sucks, BUT the laws are the laws, write your congressman, don't cry about it on a msg board. </P>


NYC has a zero tolerance approach to their illegal fire arm laws. plax was a "big enough," man to carry a gun, he should have been smart enough to know wha tthe laws were. maybe thats why you stick up for him; you and him have that lack of basic intelligence thing going for you.</P>


you don't break a law when the penalty was in place beforehand, and then cry about serving the time when the penalty is carried out. that is something the "children," you mentioned would do.</P> I can disagree with whatever I feel I don't agree with. Far as you still being ignorant and calling people names...Well look at your avatar, you are a great looking guy...not....you not even alright. Scale of 1-10 you like a two. I would say 1 but you wearing a Giants jersey. Far as intelligence goes I have a master's degree and a bachelor. You have a master's in message board.

FIFTY6 G-MAN
09-01-2010, 05:43 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>

Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire.

F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW. He felt he was not guilty so why plead bargain if you feel you are not guilty.hey younggiant, glad to see ya around again. anyways i really miss Plax but evryone including Plax knew he was guilty due to the fact of a bullet in his leg, he was hoping his status of being a NYG football player and the winning touchdown in the superbowl would carry some weight with the prosecutors but in the end it wasnt their decision.

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 05:44 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire. F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW. He felt he was not guilty so why plead bargain if you feel you are not guilty.</P>


you're a flippin idiot youngjackass should be your screen name. he broke the law, how are you not guilty when you knowingly broke the law. thats like running your car straight into a wall and saying," i didn't feel like the wall was in the way." he was being greedy, you're either incredibly naive, or incredibly stupid.....after reading your posts i'd say your stupid.</P>

Chaosist
09-01-2010, 05:44 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire. F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW. He felt he was not guilty so why plead bargain if you feel you are not guilty.</P>


Actually, he did take a plea bargain. Everyone in this thread (including myself) was wrong. The mandatory minimum is 3.5 years.</P>


And howcould Plax possibly NOT have been guilty. The dumbass shot himself. It would havebeena slam dunk for the prosecution. It's not like Plax could have claimed someone else shot him. Plax's only hope would have been tofind a sympathetic jurythat would haveexercized it's right of jury nullifcation for him to not have gone toprison.</P>


Let's face it. Plax was yet againtrying to avoid taking responsibilities for his actions...</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 05:47 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.</P>


become a lawyer and contribute to writing the laws, until you do that you don't have any ground to base your disagreement. he broke a law and he is serving his time for it. he could have killed someone. now someone like donte stallworth served less time when he did kill someone, and its sucks, BUT the laws are the laws, write your congressman, don't cry about it on a msg board. </P>


NYC has a zero tolerance approach to their illegal fire arm laws. plax was a "big enough," man to carry a gun, he should have been smart enough to know wha tthe laws were. maybe thats why you stick up for him; you and him have that lack of basic intelligence thing going for you.</P>


you don't break a law when the penalty was in place beforehand, and then cry about serving the time when the penalty is carried out. that is something the "children," you mentioned would do.</P>


I can disagree with whatever I feel I don't agree with. Far as you still being ignorant and calling people names...Well look at your avatar, you are a great looking guy...not....you not even alright. Scale of 1-10 you like a two. I would say 1 but you wearing a Giants jersey. Far as intelligence goes I have a master's degree and a bachelor. You have a master's in message board.</P>


oh, ok, i can be even more juvenile, too: i could care less if you like my look, you look like a young charlie chan....on crack, after a binge, really. you look like a smug man, so full of yourself with a pound of meat dangling between your legs.</P>


youre an idiot, you spout assinine gibberish, and then want to defend it. when your told there is no defense for your stupidity, you want to insult how i look. i wouldn't waste ONE of potential children on you, you frickin fu-man-chu looking twit.</P>

BIGBLUENKC49
09-01-2010, 05:47 PM
if you talk to any lawyer or judge....they will tell you that when assessing punishment (sentence) you are only supposed to deal a degree of punishment that is called for by the pertinent code(s) that matches what DID happen...not what COULD have happened. this is the very logic behind the principle of "no cruel or UNUSUAL punishments".

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:48 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


Match in the gas tank on that one. Tal about back fire. F Plax. If he took the plea bargain he be playing football RIGHT NOW. He felt he was not guilty so why plead bargain if you feel you are not guilty.</P>


you're a flippin idiot youngjackass should be your screen name. he broke the law, how are you not guilty when you knowingly broke the law. thats like running your car straight into a wall and saying," i didn't feel like the wall was in the way." he was being greedy, you're either incredibly naive, or incredibly stupid.....after reading your posts i'd say your stupid.</P> I beg the differ you are actually stupid and talk with great ignorance, but i don't blame you probably the way you was raised. He probably really thought he was innocent, you said he was stupid right? I really think he felt he was innocent because he shot himself only or he got bad advice from his lawyer.

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:50 PM
****if you talk to any lawyer or judge....they will tell you that when assessing punishment (sentence) you are only supposed to deal a degree of punishment that is called for by the pertinent code(s) that matches what DID happen...not what COULD have happened.* this is the very logic behind the principle of "no cruel or UNUSUAL punishments". Try telling that to eli#10nyg, that guy is so stupid and swear he an attorney. Funny looking too I might add

FIFTY6 G-MAN
09-01-2010, 05:50 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.</P>


become a lawyer and contribute to writing the laws, until you do that you don't have any ground to base your disagreement. he broke a law and he is serving his time for it. he could have killed someone. now someone like donte stallworth served less time when he did kill someone, and its sucks, BUT the laws are the laws, write your congressman, don't cry about it on a msg board. </P>


NYC has a zero tolerance approach to their illegal fire arm laws. plax was a "big enough," man to carry a gun, he should have been smart enough to know wha tthe laws were. maybe thats why you stick up for him; you and him have that lack of basic intelligence thing going for you.</P>


you don't break a law when the penalty was in place beforehand, and then cry about serving the time when the penalty is carried out. that is something the "children," you mentioned would do.</P>


I can disagree with whatever I feel I don't agree with. Far as you still being ignorant and calling people names...Well look at your avatar, you are a great looking guy...not....you not even alright. Scale of 1-10 you like a two. I would say 1 but you wearing a Giants jersey. Far as intelligence goes I have a master's degree and a bachelor. You have a master's in message board.</P>


oh, ok, i can be even more juvenile, too: i could care less if you like my look, you look like a young charlie chan....on crack, after a binge, really. you look like a smug man, so full of yourself with a pound of meat dangling between your legs.</P>


youre an idiot, you spout assinine gibberish, and then want to defend it. when your told there is no defense for your stupidity, you want to insult how i look. i wouldn't waste ONE of potential children on you, you frickin fu-man-chu looking twit.</P> ok ok peeps. lets take a pause for station identification.......................... now back to our regular scheduled program bye bye plax

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


It's easy to say that when you haven't spent six months in jail before.</P>


go choke on a man piece, really. who cares. he broke the law, he is serving the punishment. in your home country they would have caned him to death, so stfu, your degrees must be in assinine jackassidness, becasue they weren't based on any type of intelligence. YOU HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS THREAD. </P>


go put your little slippers on and sip some saki, cuz about now i'd like to piss in that saki. its obvious your intelligence is still being imported on a slow boat from china. stupid people usually don't get under my skin, but people that are belligerent with their stupidity piss me off.</P>

younggiant
09-01-2010, 05:54 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.</P>


become a lawyer and contribute to writing the laws, until you do that you don't have any ground to base your disagreement. he broke a law and he is serving his time for it. he could have killed someone. now someone like donte stallworth served less time when he did kill someone, and its sucks, BUT the laws are the laws, write your congressman, don't cry about it on a msg board. </P>


NYC has a zero tolerance approach to their illegal fire arm laws. plax was a "big enough," man to carry a gun, he should have been smart enough to know wha tthe laws were. maybe thats why you stick up for him; you and him have that lack of basic intelligence thing going for you.</P>


you don't break a law when the penalty was in place beforehand, and then cry about serving the time when the penalty is carried out. that is something the "children," you mentioned would do.</P>


I can disagree with whatever I feel I don't agree with. Far as you still being ignorant and calling people names...Well look at your avatar, you are a great looking guy...not....you not even alright. Scale of 1-10 you like a two. I would say 1 but you wearing a Giants jersey. Far as intelligence goes I have a master's degree and a bachelor. You have a master's in message board.</P>


oh, ok, i can be even more juvenile, too: i could care less if you like my look, you look like a young charlie chan....on crack, after a binge, really. you look like a smug man, so full of yourself with a pound of meat dangling between your legs.</P>


youre an idiot, you spout assinine gibberish, and then want to defend it. when your told there is no defense for your stupidity, you want to insult how i look. i wouldn't waste ONE of potential children on you, you frickin fu-man-chu looking twit.</P> Charlie Chan on crack really? You look like nobody. you just plain horrible. If i had to say who you look like I probably say Alf. I'm so ugly, but i look better than you and I think even women will agree. Like I said you are a stupid, ignorant, ****

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 05:55 PM
if you talk to any lawyer or judge....they will tell you that when assessing punishment (sentence) you are only supposed to deal a degree of punishment that is called for by the pertinent code(s) that matches what DID happen...not what COULD have happened. this is the very logic behind the principle of "no cruel or UNUSUAL punishments". Try telling that to eli#10nyg, that guy is so stupid and swear he an attorney. Funny looking too I might add</P>


i think by funny looking, you mean you are flicking the bean to my avatar right now. most people that insult someone's look actually like what they look like. or is that some ancient chinese secret on the island you come from? probably is, same as intelligence.</P>


oh yeah the gun was discharged, he could have served over 2 1/2 years, he turned down a plea deal for a 6 month or so deal. the punishment in part had to do with his turning down the plea and his trying to cheat the justice system. you don't have to be a lawyer to have intelligent opinions and thoughts. well you youngdip****, you need something to do that, and its something you just don't have.</P>

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 05:57 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/news/story?id=5517027</P>


This is crazy I mean I really believe they are just making an example out of him. Not talking just football here this is a man's freedom we are talking about. The punishment is excessive IMO.</P>


If that bullet hit someone, you'd think otherwise. He deserves every second he's stuck in there. IF the bullet hit someone then the situation would have been different. Fact is the bullet only hit him. IF this IF that.... no we go with the facts. I'm with the people who say his punishment is excessive. He deserved community service, a big fine, but not to be locked up for 2+ years. Totally agree my friend. If it had happen to their children they would be singing a different tune.</P>


become a lawyer and contribute to writing the laws, until you do that you don't have any ground to base your disagreement. he broke a law and he is serving his time for it. he could have killed someone. now someone like donte stallworth served less time when he did kill someone, and its sucks, BUT the laws are the laws, write your congressman, don't cry about it on a msg board. </P>


NYC has a zero tolerance approach to their illegal fire arm laws. plax was a "big enough," man to carry a gun, he should have been smart enough to know wha tthe laws were. maybe thats why you stick up for him; you and him have that lack of basic intelligence thing going for you.</P>


you don't break a law when the penalty was in place beforehand, and then cry about serving the time when the penalty is carried out. that is something the "children," you mentioned would do.</P>


I can disagree with whatever I feel I don't agree with. Far as you still being ignorant and calling people names...Well look at your avatar, you are a great looking guy...not....you not even alright. Scale of 1-10 you like a two. I would say 1 but you wearing a Giants jersey. Far as intelligence goes I have a master's degree and a bachelor. You have a master's in message board.</P>


oh, ok, i can be even more juvenile, too: i could care less if you like my look, you look like a young charlie chan....on crack, after a binge, really. you look like a smug man, so full of yourself with a pound of meat dangling between your legs.</P>


youre an idiot, you spout assinine gibberish, and then want to defend it. when your told there is no defense for your stupidity, you want to insult how i look. i wouldn't waste ONE of potential children on you, you frickin fu-man-chu looking twit.</P>


Charlie Chan on crack really? You look like nobody. you just plain horrible. If i had to say who you look like I probably say Alf. I'm so ugly, but i look better than you and I think even women will agree. Like I said you are a stupid, ignorant, ****</P>


yeah your dyke manly man looking "women," are the ones that would agree. well them and your mother. could you try speaking in ingrish please? you look like a member of kiss wthout their makeup on. and you insult my avatar which is grainy and in bad quality, how can you see it that well out of those little slits. you're either high out of your mind or from a very very old clan from deep in the mother land.</P>

FIFTY6 G-MAN
09-01-2010, 05:59 PM
Where in the hell is this post going....looks more like a SMACK TALK thread now.LOL u cant pay for this entertainment

sharick88
09-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Wow, this thread has gotten waaaayyyyy out of hand. Anyways, I have some advice:</P>


http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/e/epmd~~~~~~~_yougotsto_101b.jpg</P>

younggiant
09-01-2010, 06:00 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


It's easy to say that when you haven't spent six months in jail before.</P>


go choke on a man piece, really. who cares. he broke the law, he is serving the punishment. in your home country they would have caned him to death, so stfu, your degrees must be in assinine jackassidness, becasue they weren't based on any type of intelligence. YOU HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS THREAD. </P>


go put your little slippers on and sip some saki, cuz about now i'd like to piss in that saki. its obvious your intelligence is still being imported on a slow boat from china. stupid people usually don't get under my skin, but people that are belligerent with their stupidity piss me off.</P> You have nothing of value to contribute in life. I'm from Japan not China you ignorant idiot. In my country if he shot himself he be out now trying to get his life back together. Know about my country before you open your stupid mouth with idiotic remarks. and if I piss you off do something about it. Put my slippers on and drink saki? Shows that you are a racist too huh? So not only are you stupid and ignorant, but you are a racist too. smh.

eli#10nyg
09-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Plax thought he was above the law. Didn't he turn down a 6 month plea bargain in the beginning cause he wanted ZERO jail time? I would have taken the 6 months and RAN.</P>


agreed. he didn't want to forfeit his football season, instead he forfeited a few of them, lol. he was being greedy, they were willing to give him a slap on the wrist; that wasn't good enough so he got the kick in the balls.....it was his choice. all of this comes down to poor choices he made, anyone that can defend him and cry that he is being mistreated needs a psychological evaluation.</P>


It's easy to say that when you haven't spent six months in jail before.</P>


go choke on a man piece, really. who cares. he broke the law, he is serving the punishment. in your home country they would have caned him to death, so stfu, your degrees must be in assinine jackassidness, becasue they weren't based on any type of intelligence. YOU HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS THREAD. </P>


go put your little slippers on and sip some saki, cuz about now i'd like to piss in that saki. its obvious your intelligence is still being imported on a slow boat from china. stupid people usually don't get under my skin, but people that are belligerent with their stupidity piss me off.</P>


You have nothing of value to contribute in life. I'm from Japan not China you ignorant idiot. In my country if he shot himself he be out now trying to get his life back together. Know about my country before you open your stupid mouth with idiotic remarks. and if I piss you off do something about it. Put my slippers on and drink saki? Shows that you are a racist too huh/ So not only are you stupid and ignorant, but you are a racist too. smh.</P>


i'm not above hitting below the belt, i could care less if you want to cry the racist card. i actually like japanese culture, i'm really surprised that someone as stupid as you is an import. i know if you admit that youre an idiot you'll have to commit seppuku, no wonder you just keep going. i love saki by the way, and you probably love to be peed on.</P>


if he shot himself in the privacy of his own home it wouldn't have been as a big a deal. c'mon hed be locked up for decades if he broke a gun law in your country, you know it and so do i.</P>

Die-Hard
09-01-2010, 06:08 PM
When you guys learn to play nice and act like adults, you'll be allowed back.

This thread is done