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dan1552
01-23-2012, 11:18 AM
I watched the replay , looked like he did.

MikeIsaGiant
01-23-2012, 11:19 AM
Weird angle, IMO he did...

Did they show it any other way but on his left?

Blue daddy
01-23-2012, 11:21 AM
It was real close but the ref was right on it . He had a better look at it then we did.

nygsb42champs
01-23-2012, 11:23 AM
The replay did not give a great view. To hard to call.

JMFP2
01-23-2012, 11:23 AM
The replay looked that way, but his heel didn't come down, so it was hard to confirm....close call, and since the ruling on the field was TD, no way were the refs going to overturn that one.</P>


Personally, I think he was out.</P>


Would be nice if the NFL upgraded their cameras.....the security camera at my local 7-Eleven has better resolution.</P>


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BigBlue1971
01-23-2012, 11:24 AM
on the replays his right foot angle seemed to touch the line.</P>


the ref said there was no clear evidence that he stepped out.</P>


i personally believe they didnt look at all angles of the replay. </P>

bigblue4417
01-23-2012, 11:26 AM
I just thought it was funny how long it took Ed to explain it.

paul007
01-23-2012, 11:27 AM
NO. Although his foot was turned and the the heel of his foot appeared over the white out of bounds, he was stepping on the front tip of his foot which was on the green in bounds. The heel of his foot was never in contact with the ground painted in white.Therefore it was too tough to overturn and the refs made the right call.

What i didn't understand was why the refs didn't call holding against the 49ers OL a few times when our DL was clearly held
or what i thought was clearly offsides by the 49er defense by Smith and he sacked Eli.

Kruunch
01-23-2012, 11:28 AM
I watched the replay , looked like he did.

It looked like he did to me too but since it was questionable even on the replay, there wasn't enough to overturn the call.

I think they got the call and subsequent review right though.

Ruttiger711
01-23-2012, 11:28 AM
Agree with there not being enough to overturn... but of course i think he was out... </P>


The clearest thing to see is man coverage on Davis w a safety is a bad idea and probably shouldnt do it again... uhh..</P>

Diamondring
01-23-2012, 11:28 AM
No his foot didn't stepped out yet part of his foot was over the white line. His feet have to touch on the line for it to be out of it.

Ruttiger711
01-23-2012, 11:30 AM
No his foot didn't stepped out yet part of his foot was over the white line. His feet have to touch on the line for it to be out of it.</P>


Well that would be out of bounds... even if just his toe</P>

DJloves
01-23-2012, 11:32 AM
Maybe - but there wasn't clear evidence, so the ref mad the right call.

The blatant offsides and the face mask against Nicks (when we had to settle for a FG) were the worst non-calls.

CTLadyBlue
01-23-2012, 11:33 AM
The replay did not give a great view. To hard to call.

I thought it was. If you watch the highlights video on the site they show a very close-up view of his foot on the sideline. It was very close, but he was clearly in bounds.

But that arrogant stance after the TD was disgraceful. It's almost as if he was thinking, "yeah, I may cost my team a 15 yard sportsmanlike conduct penalty, but so what?"

jhamburg
01-23-2012, 11:33 AM
I just thought it was funny how long it took Ed to explain it.


I think he was aware of the fallout from last week and didn't want Giants fans calling for his head.

But yeah it was not clear that his heel came down.

bigblue4417
01-23-2012, 11:35 AM
I just hope he enjoyed his party...

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Vernon-Davis.jpg

hadenough
01-23-2012, 11:37 AM
I watched the replay , looked like he did.

He was out...but the camera was on an angle so there really was no way to overturn the call.

whakka
01-23-2012, 11:42 AM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/955134/davis2_1.jpg

Ruttiger711
01-23-2012, 11:44 AM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/955134/davis2_1.jpg</P>


exactly why it couldnt be overturned ..imo</P>

Blue daddy
01-23-2012, 11:44 AM
Then the moron hurts his back climbing on the camera platform. He's the next T.O. 30 yds in unsportsman like what a dumb s.o.b.

NJGIANTinNC
01-23-2012, 11:47 AM
How is there only one camera angle in the 2011 NFC Conference Championship game?

giantsfan420
01-23-2012, 11:51 AM
at first i thought it would stand but when they came back from commercial and showed the replay he clearly steps out and u can tell bc the white line shifts from the middle of the bottom of his foot. he did step out. 9ers were cheap too look at the out of bounds line, theres solid white but right outside of that like an inch theres less solid white but imo he def. stepped out of bounds

giantsfan420
01-23-2012, 11:53 AM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/955134/davis2_1.jpg</P>


exactly why it couldnt be overturned ..imo</P>

it was a frame after this u could see the shift in the white and also notice how there is a more solid lining of white and outside that theres like an inch of worn out white. but u can clearly see when he lifts his left foot from that step the white moves and it means he stepped out.

Blue daddy
01-23-2012, 11:57 AM
How is there only one camera angle in the 2011 NFC Conference Championship game?

Because candle**** park cant accomadate that many cameras it's a hole of statium.

Joe Morrison
01-23-2012, 11:59 AM
Did Vernon Davis step out? </P>


Does it reall matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!</P>


Go Giants</P>

CTLadyBlue
01-23-2012, 12:09 PM
His toe was in-bounds, but it looks as if his heel never hit the 'out' of bounds area. Close call, but like the poster above said - doesn't matter. We still won

Ruttiger711
01-23-2012, 12:18 PM
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/955134/davis2_1.jpg</P>


exactly why it couldnt be overturned ..imo</P>


it was a frame after this u could see the shift in the white and also notice how there is a more solid lining of white and outside that theres like an inch of worn out white. but u can clearly see when he lifts his left foot from that step the white moves and it means he stepped out.</P>


just for the sake of arguement... if the "white" moves that could simply be because the "green" he is stepping on is pushing it ... (its nice to be able to argue this knowing the GMEN are going to the show!)</P>


like i said - i think he steps out... i dont think there's enough to overturn... where the hell were the other camera angles FOX?!?!</P>

Roosevelt
01-23-2012, 12:21 PM
The replay did not give a great view. To hard to call.

I thought it was. If you watch the highlights video on the site they show a very close-up view of his foot on the sideline. It was very close, but he was clearly in bounds.

But that arrogant stance after the TD was disgraceful. It's almost as if he was thinking, "yeah, I may cost my team a 15 yard sportsmanlike conduct penalty, but so what?"

He's just a fool.

He had 46 net yards in that game I believe.

He caught 2 catches for 76 and had 2 personal fouls for 30.

Ruttiger711
01-23-2012, 12:31 PM
The replay did not give a great view. To hard to call. I thought it was. If you watch the highlights video on the site they show a very close-up view of his foot on the sideline. It was very close, but he was clearly in bounds. But that arrogant stance after the TD was disgraceful. It's almost as if he was thinking, "yeah, I may cost my team a 15 yard sportsmanlike conduct penalty, but so what?"

He's just a fool.

He had 46 net yards in that game I believe.

He caught 2 catches for 76 and had 2 personal fouls for 30.


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It was this whole "me first" attitude that got Singletary so pissed.... there were stories all day about how great it was for Davis and it really made him grow up... </P>


...both his penalties were just head-scratchingly DUMB. </P>

TuckYou
01-23-2012, 12:32 PM
I just thought it was funny how long it took Ed to explain it.
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Personally, I think it is awesome. Id rather that then just a "The ruling on the field stands"</P>

Tuckinator
01-23-2012, 12:36 PM
I think he did and I was flippin' out when I saw the replay.

TuckYou
01-23-2012, 12:36 PM
I just hope he enjoyed his party...

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Vernon-Davis.jpg
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Im sure he did...</P>


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRIYQ9LzS02g-9ULgW-bzyYzI9P-TfWBOBlr64JIcgxWIoKH94q</P>

Tuckinator
01-23-2012, 12:39 PM
Looking at this pic, the ball of his foot is on the line......but really doen't matter now. Thank God!

jimsgints
01-23-2012, 12:54 PM
Lets put it this way, if the refs would have called him out the they challenged, it would not have been overturned.

bigblue4417
01-23-2012, 12:58 PM
I just thought it was funny how long it took Ed to explain it.
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Personally, I think it is awesome. Id rather that then just a "The ruling on the field stands"</p>
Yeah, you're probably right.

But guess what?

THE GIANTS STILL WON!!!

Voldamort
01-23-2012, 12:58 PM
YES SUPERSLOWMO on tv and put it in big picture he stepped out!

CA Jints Fan
01-23-2012, 01:00 PM
I wonder how his "after party" was that he had scheduled after the game?

M0rbid
01-23-2012, 01:00 PM
One of many BS, 9ers got away with. Karma bit them in the a**.

appodictic
01-23-2012, 09:05 PM
You know when people run then tend to run heel-toe. I know vernon davis is fast but the odds that he can run only on his tippie toes are slim to non. That being said it was not conclusive he stepped out.

Drez
01-23-2012, 09:07 PM
It was close, but I think he stayed in. Either way, I don't think the look was definitive enough to overturn the call.

chuckedafter5yards
01-23-2012, 09:24 PM
Yes, he's out of bounds, the weird thing is it's the opposite foot- meaning the inside foot not the outside foot. Almost impossible to keep a left foot in bounds on the right sideline. Basically the ref said "our video is poor" but the play is right next to the Giant sideline, the whole team saw it.