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FDNY Fitzy
01-23-2012, 06:50 PM
They have been using Beckum more and more lately and I am beginning to notice some similarities. Both are far too small to be tight ends, but work very well as sort of a hybrid slot receiver with some grit. Same size, both 3rd round picks, ect.

Has Beckum's playoff performance earned himself a job for next season?

slipknottin
01-23-2012, 06:53 PM
shiancoe was like 20-30 pounds bigger, and a far better blocker.

giantsfan420
01-23-2012, 06:55 PM
shiancoe was like 20-30 pounds bigger, and a far better blocker.
+1. but im liking that the giants org. is starting to try and incorporate beckum more and more. he looks like he can be a gamer if he's used correctly. problem is we've been trying to figure that out for some time now.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 06:56 PM
shiancoe was like 20-30 pounds bigger, and a far better blocker. Shiancoe is actually a FA i'd be interested in picking up if we don't go for one if the draft or a bigger na<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me.. I do think Becku</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m has earned as good a chance as anyone whos gonna be on the cusp of </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">making the tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m next yr but hes not a gurantee as hes not done that </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much to gurantee a job or anything.. I appreciate the fact were seeing </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more outta hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m though .. 4first down catches this postseason and 7catches overall when he only had 5catches in the regular season..
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mcillo
01-23-2012, 08:07 PM
Beckum had decent position and a ball almost hitting his hands yesterday in the 1st quarter and he had no clue how to gather himself and elevate to the ball. He`s not a blocker and not and energetic presence on the offense. There is a new breed of TE emerging in the NFL and he`s not the prototype. Best we scour the basketball courts for potential TE`s

GMENAGAIN
01-23-2012, 08:12 PM
They have been using Beckum more and more lately and I am beginning to notice some similarities. Both are far too small to be tight ends, but work very well as sort of a hybrid slot receiver with some grit. Same size, both 3rd round picks, ect.

Has Beckum's playoff performance earned himself a job for next season?

Beckum = Visanthe Shiancoe's mom

Itlan
01-23-2012, 08:14 PM
Really like that quick slant they gave him. He jumped INTO the defender to protect the ball and Eli. Great play.

krygny
01-23-2012, 08:16 PM
I started a thread about this the other day. Phil Simms mentioned Beckum on Inside the NFL (Showtime) last week. I don't know what he knows about Beckum but apparently big things are expected of him. I just wish I could see it consistently.

Usually, in the playoffs, you don't start using guys who haven't gotten it done all year but they seem to be trying to work Beckum into the game plan more. I don't know, maybe Manning is getting good results from Beckum in practice and Ballard is too limited by his knee (or a combination of both).

hungrrrry
01-23-2012, 08:16 PM
Beckum doesn't have the ability Shianco has...VS was used alot more than TB within the Giants system even with Shockey as the #1 TE.

I doubt Beckum has done enough to earn himself a role on the team in 2012 but I am sure they will drag his carcass along for training camp to prove himself...We will likely develope Ballard and work Pascoe as more the Blocking TE/fullback...Maybe even draft another TE.

jomo
01-23-2012, 08:22 PM
They have been using Beckum more and more lately and I am beginning to notice some similarities. Both are far too small to be tight ends, but work very well as sort of a hybrid slot receiver with some grit. Same size, both 3rd round picks, ect. Has Beckum's playoff performance earned himself a job for next season? Beckum = Visanthe Shiancoe's momlol

gradstang
01-23-2012, 08:22 PM
no fred davis from the skins would be the perfect tight end. if the g men get this dude their offense would be truly unstoppable! and re-sign manningham.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 08:30 PM
no fred davis from the skins would be the perfect tight end. if the g men get this dude their offense would be truly unstoppable! and re-sign manningham. Don't forget Fred Davis is one failed Drug Test away fro<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m a Yr long suspension.. Its definetly a scary risk when signing the talented TE.. I'd be surprised if WASH lets e</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m get away regardless though.. I'd be intersted in Vishante Shiancoe on a 2yr deal .. Shiancoe/Ballard/ Becku</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m or Pascoe would </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">make a nice trio.. Obviously theres guys like Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener who could get drafted as well
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Gimaniac
01-23-2012, 08:40 PM
I'll take a healthy Ballard anyday, but Beckum has contrubuted in his absense. Still, the running game suffers from inadequate blocking.

Hopefully Ballard is healthy in 2 weeks and Gronkowski trips down the stairs with his boot off, lol

FDNY Fitzy
01-23-2012, 08:45 PM
Eli has a way of making nodoys become somebodys.

Burress wasn't considered a top 5 receiver until he came here.

Boss and Ballard? Who?

Steve Smith's dropoff was not just due to injury, and Cruz's record setting season was not all about his YAC. Somebody had to get the ball there. Give Eli enough average weapons and he will turn them into Gustaf guns.

nycsportzfan
01-23-2012, 09:09 PM
Eli has a way of making nodoys become somebodys.

Burress wasn't considered a top 5 receiver until he came here.

Boss and Ballard? Who?

Steve Smith's dropoff was not just due to injury, and Cruz's record setting season was not all about his YAC. Somebody had to get the ball there. Give Eli enough average weapons and he will turn them into Gustaf guns. Plaxico had so<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me big seasons with the steelers and that wasen't big ben but To</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">maddux and Kordell Stewart throwing hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m the ball.. Plax was </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more consistent with the Giatns because of Eli but he certainly did so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me things with Pittsburgh in which he had 2 thousand yrd seasons.. Steve S</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mith was a 2nd round pick and supposed to be pretty good and i think </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most of his proble</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms were his injury and yes a bit of it was not having ELI whos a </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more acco</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mplished passer then Vick.. U can't go taking everything away fro</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m these outstanding pass catchers we've had or do have and say its ELI </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">making the</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m look good because its si</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mply not true.. Its a tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m ga</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me and we've got a good </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mix of talent including very talented pass catchers..
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NY_Eli
01-23-2012, 09:12 PM
Eli has a way of making nodoys become somebodys.

Burress wasn't considered a top 5 receiver until he came here.

Boss and Ballard? Who?

Steve Smith's dropoff was not just due to injury, and Cruz's record setting season was not all about his YAC. Somebody had to get the ball there. Give Eli enough average weapons and he will turn them into Gustaf guns.* Plaxico had so<span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me big seasons with the steelers and that wasen't big ben* but* To</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">my </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">maddux and Kordell Stewart throwing hi</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m the ball..* Plax was </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more consistent with the Giatns because of Eli** but he certainly did so</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me things with Pittsburgh** in which he had 2 thousand yrd seasons..* Steve S</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mith was a 2nd round pick and supposed to be pretty good and i think </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">most of his proble</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">ms were his injury and yes a bit of it was not having ELI whos a </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">much </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">more acco</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mplished passer then Vick..* U can't go taking everything away fro</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m these outstanding pass catchers we've had or do have* and say its ELI </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">making the</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m look good because its si</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mply not true..* Its a tea</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">m ga</span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">me and we've got a good </span><span id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr_PostForm___ForumDescription">mix of talent including very talented pass catchers..
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+1, well-said