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GOBIGBLUE50
11-07-2006, 12:01 AM
Him and Wilbon were talking about the bears on pti today and were saying how after sunday the giants could be the team to beat in the NFC. If you listened carefully at the end Tony K said "I hope so."

Not the best MNF guy, but nobody beats him on PTI.

cokane
11-07-2006, 12:01 AM
i think he is a ****** just runs his mouth to much

poop
11-07-2006, 12:03 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cokane &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;01 PM) 1455951</div><div class='quotemain'>
i think he is a ****** just runs his mouth to much
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is he a jew? hes gotta be

Manning1010
11-07-2006, 12:03 AM
I thought Wilbon was saying that about the Bears, Wilbon was also the one that brought up the Giants, he does have us in the super bowl

taylormadeinpa
11-07-2006, 12:05 AM
good night CANADA...

shonday
11-07-2006, 12:05 AM
Then they both made fun of the Ballin dance and supported Mario Williams. Whatever.

Manning1010
11-07-2006, 12:11 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(shonday &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;05 PM) 1455969</div><div class='quotemain'>
Then they both made fun of the Ballin dance and supported Mario Williams. Whatever.
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Yes, we need to stop but TO is a genius

jet_black
11-07-2006, 12:13 AM
I love Kornheiser and PTI, but he&#39;s out of his element on MNF, and he knows it. Whoever put him and Wilbon together is a genius. Whoever thought he&#39;d be good next to Joe Theismann, not so much.

spottysage
11-07-2006, 12:14 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;03 PM) 1455955</div><div class='quotemain'>
is he a jew? hes gotta be
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###### does that mean? ######

poop
11-07-2006, 12:16 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(osiandtikiruletheworld &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;14 PM) 1455997</div><div class='quotemain'>
###### does that mean? ######
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look at what i replied, too. it basically defined all jews. lol im guessing ur jewish? nd i was just wondering if he was cause my mom asked me when she heard him on tv

jet_black
11-07-2006, 12:17 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Manning1010 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;18 PM) 1456010</div><div class='quotemain'>
They don&#39;t let him speak, it is like in second grade when you need the speaking stick to talk.
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I cant stand when he says &quot;Joe, as a player....&quot; and asks him a question. I understand respecting someone who has been there, but dammit Tony, you&#39;re smarter than that jacka&#036;s, and it sounds like you&#39;re groveling.

Manning1010
11-07-2006, 12:18 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;13 PM) 1456002</div><div class='quotemain'>
I love Kornheiser and PTI, but he&#39;s out of his element on MNF, and he knows it. Whoever put him and Wilbon together is a genius. Whoever thought he&#39;d be good next to Joe Theismann, not so much.
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They don&#39;t let him speak, it is like in second grade when you need the speaking stick to talk.

gji074
11-07-2006, 12:19 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;16 PM) 1456004</div><div class='quotemain'>
look at what i replied, too. it basically defined all jews. lol im guessing ur jewish? nd i was just wondering if he was cause my mom asked me when she heard him on tv
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How nice: mom and son racists

Manning1010
11-07-2006, 12:20 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;17 PM) 1456012</div><div class='quotemain'>
I cant stand when he says &quot;Joe, as a player....&quot; and asks him a question. I understand respecting someone who has been there, but dammit Tony, you&#39;re smarter than that jacka&#036;s, and it sounds like you&#39;re groveling.
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he obviously did not have the speaking stick, but it&#39;s better than the Denis Miller experience

spottysage
11-07-2006, 12:21 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;16 PM) 1456004</div><div class='quotemain'>
look at what i replied, too. it basically defined all jews. lol im guessing ur jewish? nd i was just wondering if he was cause my mom asked me when she heard him on tv
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Actually i am not jewish&#33; I just dont understand this comment. I dont see a reply from you either &quot;defining&quot; all &quot;jews&quot; as you put it. Tony Kornheiser is great on PTI yeah he sucks on MNF. Just dont get the racist comment.

purged
11-07-2006, 12:22 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;16 PM) 1456004</div><div class='quotemain'>
look at what i replied, too. it basically defined all jews. lol im guessing ur jewish? nd i was just wondering if he was cause my mom asked me when she heard him on tv
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wow... stereotype much?

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:24 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;03 PM) 1455955</div><div class='quotemain'>
is he a jew? hes gotta be
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Borat is that you?

he is a newyorker so i would think that he grew up a giant fan.

GOBIGBLUE50
11-07-2006, 12:25 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;03 PM) 1455955</div><div class='quotemain'>
is he a jew? hes gotta be
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WHAT?&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:27 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;17 PM) 1456012</div><div class='quotemain'>
I cant stand when he says &quot;Joe, as a player....&quot; and asks him a question. I understand respecting someone who has been there, but dammit Tony, you&#39;re smarter than that jacka&#036;s, and it sounds like you&#39;re groveling.
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It&#39;s probably in Theismann&#39;s contract that he has to be addressed as &quot;a player&quot; during broadcasts. I hate that guy.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:27 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GOBIGBLUE50 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;01 PM) 1455947</div><div class='quotemain'>
Him and Wilbon were talking about the bears on pti today and were saying how after sunday the giants could be the team to beat in the NFC. If you listened carefully at the end Tony K said &quot;I hope so.&quot;

Not the best MNF guy, but nobody beats him on PTI.
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Kornheiser and Wilbon have a great chemistry on PTI. I hate when one, or both of them are away and some fools are filling in (especially Dan Le******). The show&#39;s just not the same.

jet_black
11-07-2006, 12:27 AM
Wow, this took a turn for the bizarre pretty quickly /forums/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif

Manning1010
11-07-2006, 12:28 AM
I thought Jews where Jet fans? How dare one of them be a Giant fan /forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:28 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Manning1010 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;28 PM) 1456049</div><div class='quotemain'>
I thought Jews where Jet fans?
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feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:29 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;19 PM) 1456018</div><div class='quotemain'>
How nice: mom and son racists
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Oh please shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding. What is racist about asking if someone is Jewish? Would it be racist if someone asked if Al Michaels was Christian?

Here&#39;s another thing. Judaism isn&#39;t a race. It&#39;s a religion.

TexasGmenfan
11-07-2006, 12:31 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;27 PM) 1456053</div><div class='quotemain'>
Wow, this took a turn for the bizarre pretty quickly /forums/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif
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haha...welcome to the messageboard. when does a thread NOT take a turn like this /forums/html/emoticons/dry.gif its actually pretty sad.

and to whoever wrote the original jackass question: &quot;ding ding ding ****** alert ****** alert&quot;

TexasGmenfan
11-07-2006, 12:33 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;29 PM) 1456061</div><div class='quotemain'>
Oh please shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding. What is racist about asking if someone is Jewish? Would it be racist if someone asked if Al Michaels was Christian?

Here&#39;s another thing. Judaism isn&#39;t a race. It&#39;s a religion.
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i think the point was, what does it have to do with ANYTHING? PLUS the question was said in response to kornheiser talking too much or something.

bottom line, what color or religion or anything should have no place on these boards which last i checked is meant for giants football, not what religion a guy is

jet_black
11-07-2006, 12:34 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;29 PM) 1456061</div><div class='quotemain'>
Oh please shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding. What is racist about asking if someone is Jewish? Would it be racist if someone asked if Al Michaels was Christian?

Here&#39;s another thing. Judaism isn&#39;t a race. It&#39;s a religion.
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Judaism is a religion, but being Jewish is often regarded as a distinct ethnicity. Not disagreeing with what you said, just throwing it out there.

taylormadeinpa
11-07-2006, 12:34 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;27 PM) 1456053</div><div class='quotemain'>
Wow, this took a turn for the bizarre pretty quickly /forums/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif
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feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:34 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TexasGmenfan &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;33 PM) 1456071</div><div class='quotemain'>
i think the point was, what does it have to do with ANYTHING? PLUS the question was said in response to kornheiser talking too much or something.

bottom line, what color or religion or anything should have no place on these boards which last i checked is meant for giants football, not what religion a guy is
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My point is, it isn&#39;t racist to ask if someone is Jewish, and it&#39;s wrong to throw such a strong label as &quot;racist&quot; around just because someone asked that question.

iggy19
11-07-2006, 12:36 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Manning1010 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;28 PM) 1456049</div><div class='quotemain'>
I thought Jews where Jet fans? How dare one of them be a Giant fan /forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif
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Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;34 PM) 1456081</div><div class='quotemain'>
Judaism is a religion, but being Jewish is often regarded as a distinct ethnicity. Not disagreeing with what you said, just throwing it out there.
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yes but being jewish is a faith like being christian, should he watch what he says because some people are uneducated?

poop
11-07-2006, 12:38 AM
lol u people are funny

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;34 PM) 1456081</div><div class='quotemain'>
Judaism is a religion, but being Jewish is often regarded as a distinct ethnicity. Not disagreeing with what you said, just throwing it out there.
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I&#39;m just tired of the &quot;race card&quot; being pulled unnecessarily. There was nothing racist about the question whatsoever. I will bring this up again, and I doubt anyone will disagree with me. No one would call poster X a racist if they asked if John Madden was a Christian. No one would even bat an eye. So what&#39;s the difference?

spottysage
11-07-2006, 12:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;29 PM) 1456061</div><div class='quotemain'>
Oh please shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding. What is racist about asking if someone is Jewish? Would it be racist if someone asked if Al Michaels was Christian?

Here&#39;s another thing. Judaism isn&#39;t a race. It&#39;s a religion.
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I am not so sure it was the &quot;Is he a jew?&quot; i think what was antisemitic (not racist sorry) was the gotta be&#33; And why would his religion even come into play?

purged
11-07-2006, 12:38 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;29 PM) 1456061</div><div class='quotemain'>
Oh please shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding. What is racist about asking if someone is Jewish? Would it be racist if someone asked if Al Michaels was Christian?

Here&#39;s another thing. Judaism isn&#39;t a race. It&#39;s a religion.
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actually if you ever took a sociology course.. which I thought was required in college, you&#39;d know there are different forms of &quot;racism&quot;.. such as stereotypes based on age, race, religion..

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:44 AM
some jew food is very good, i like kinish and pastrami on rye its like butter.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:44 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(osiandtikiruletheworld &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;38 PM) 1456097</div><div class='quotemain'>
I am not so sure it was the &quot;Is he a jew?&quot; i think what was antisemitic (not racist sorry) was the gotta be&#33; And why would his religion even come into play?
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OK so then tell me, what is &quot;antiSemitic&quot; about asking, &quot;Is he a Jew?&quot;

What do we call people of Jewish faith? JEWS.

Am I missing something?

poop
11-07-2006, 12:45 AM
You people want racist? here&#39;s racist:

&quot;What do you say to the black jew?&quot;

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:45 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;46 PM) 1456114</div><div class='quotemain'>
How bout you shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding either. W T F is that question doing on a football board? Who are you to tell anyone to shut up?
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I&#39;m no one. Who are you to call someone a racist?

iggy19
11-07-2006, 12:45 AM
this topic sure did change&#33; but im happy tony is a gmen fan

jet_black
11-07-2006, 12:46 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(purged &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;38 PM) 1456088</div><div class='quotemain'>
actually if you ever took a sociology course.. which I thought was required in college, you&#39;d know there are different forms of &quot;racism&quot;.. such as stereotypes based on age, race, religion..
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actually, racism only refers to discrimination based on ethnicity. Furthermore, its an inaccurate term since we are all of the same race. &quot;Racism&quot; inply&#39;s there are funadmental differences in the physiological makeup of different ethnicities.

As for the previously mentioned &quot;other types of racism&quot;; they arent all called racism. They&#39;re called ageism, sexism, or religous-based discrimination.



I took sociology courses in college. About 30 of them. Least thats what my degree says.

gji074
11-07-2006, 12:46 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;29 PM) 1456061</div><div class='quotemain'>
Oh please shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding. What is racist about asking if someone is Jewish? Would it be racist if someone asked if Al Michaels was Christian?

Here&#39;s another thing. Judaism isn&#39;t a race. It&#39;s a religion.
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How bout you shut the ###### up. Seriously, I&#39;m not kidding either. W T F is that question doing on a football board? Who are you to tell anyone to shut up?

taylormadeinpa
11-07-2006, 12:47 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;46 PM) 1456109</div><div class='quotemain'>
actually, racism only refers to discrimination based on ethnicity. Furthermore, its an inaccurate term since we are all of the same race. &quot;Racism&quot; inply&#39;s there are funadmental differences in the physiological makeup of different ethnicities.

As for the previously mentioned &quot;other types of racism&quot;; they arent all called racism. They&#39;re called ageism, sexism, or religous-based discrimination.
I took sociology courses in college. About 30 of them. Least thats what my degree says.
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feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:48 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(purged &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;48 PM) 1456120</div><div class='quotemain'>
ok genius.. antisemitism is not a form of racism? So mel gibson isn&#39;t a racist he&#39;s just an anti-semite...? Point being: some people take offense to comments like that, whether you meant it as an insult or not, and the fact that you say: everyone knows all jewish people talk too much, which I&#39;m not saying because I&#39;ve never even heard that before, is just putting your foot in your mouth because you are saying you in fact agree with the stereotype..
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Asking, &quot;Is he a Jew?&quot; is offensive? How?

Keep on Tickin TiKi
11-07-2006, 12:48 AM
Its very unfortunate that there are racist people in this world that watch football...If you idddiots understood anything...then why would you watch black people on a football field and watch Fox which is run by jews???

purged
11-07-2006, 12:48 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;38 PM) 1456096</div><div class='quotemain'>
yes but being jewish is a faith like being christian, should he watch what he says because some people are uneducated?
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ok genius.. antisemitism is not a form of racism? So mel gibson isn&#39;t a racist he&#39;s just an anti-semite...? Point being: some people take offense to comments like that, whether you meant it as an insult or not, and the fact that you say: everyone knows all jewish people talk too much, which I&#39;m not saying because I&#39;ve never even heard that before, is just putting your foot in your mouth because you are saying you in fact agree with the stereotype..

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:49 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Keep on Tickin TiKi &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;48 PM) 1456126</div><div class='quotemain'>
Its very unfortunate that there are racist people in this world that watch football...If you idddiots understood anything...then why would you watch black people on a football field and watch Fox which is run by jews???
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What the hell are you talking about? Are you assuming that every poster here isn&#39;t black or Jewish? Are you a racist? /forums/html/emoticons/unsure.gif

purged
11-07-2006, 12:49 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;48 PM) 1456122</div><div class='quotemain'>
Asking, &quot;Is he a Jew?&quot; is offensive? How?
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his reason for the question could be seen as offensive.. people don&#39;t like being stereotyped.. do you?

taylormadeinpa
11-07-2006, 12:50 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;45 PM) 1456118</div><div class='quotemain'>
You people want racist? here&#39;s racist:

&quot;What do you say to the black jew?&quot;
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purged
11-07-2006, 12:50 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;46 PM) 1456109</div><div class='quotemain'>
actually, racism only refers to discrimination based on ethnicity. Furthermore, its an inaccurate term since we are all of the same race. &quot;Racism&quot; inply&#39;s there are funadmental differences in the physiological makeup of different ethnicities.

As for the previously mentioned &quot;other types of racism&quot;; they arent all called racism. They&#39;re called ageism, sexism, or religous-based discrimination.
I took sociology courses in college. About 30 of them. Least thats what my degree says.
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yes you are correct.. but being as you pointed out racism is inherently inaccurate to describe any form of social stereotyping some people would put ageism, sexism, etc under racism as an umbrella term.. but I agree with you 100%

gji074
11-07-2006, 12:50 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;45 PM) 1456119</div><div class='quotemain'>
I&#39;m no one. Who are you to call someone a racist?
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Someone who is offended by unnecessary racial (admittedly imperfect term) comments being made, That comment had no business being placed on a MB of any kind.

aczakka
11-07-2006, 12:51 AM
someone kill this thread.

aczakka
11-07-2006, 12:51 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;44 PM) 1456104</div><div class='quotemain'>
OK so then tell me, what is &quot;antiSemitic&quot; about asking, &quot;Is he a Jew?&quot;

What do we call people of Jewish faith? JEWS.

Am I missing something?
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Your missing the fact that the whole world hates jews. Except Hollywood and the media.

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:52 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(purged &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;48 PM) 1456120</div><div class='quotemain'>
ok genius.. antisemitism is not a form of racism? So mel gibson isn&#39;t a racist he&#39;s just an anti-semite...? Point being: some people take offense to comments like that, whether you meant it as an insult or not, and the fact that you say: everyone knows all jewish people talk too much, which I&#39;m not saying because I&#39;ve never even heard that before, is just putting your foot in your mouth because you are saying you in fact agree with the stereotype..
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why is it not racist to say something about muslims or christians but if anyone says anything antijewish all hell breaks loose? we all know the jews knocked down the towers anyway.













lol j/k that last one was a joke from borat.

taylormadeinpa
11-07-2006, 12:52 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;53 PM) 1456144</div><div class='quotemain'>
i dont like italians being portryed as dumb gangster mobsters but it happens on tv and commercials everyday. i deal with it.
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forget about it

Manning_Dynasty
11-07-2006, 12:53 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 09&#58;03 PM) 1455955</div><div class='quotemain'>
is he a jew? hes gotta be
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Get the ###### out of here with that ######. /forums/html/emoticons/ranting.gif

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:53 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aczakka &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;51 PM) 1456132</div><div class='quotemain'>
Your missing the fact that the whole world hates jews. Except Hollywood and the media.
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I&#39;m still missing why it&#39;s racist to ask if someone is Jewish. Please, fill me in.

And it also seems as if the whole world hates America, even Hollywood and the media at times. Is it wrong to ask, &quot;Is he an American?&quot;

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:53 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(purged &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;49 PM) 1456137</div><div class='quotemain'>
his reason for the question could be seen as offensive.. people don&#39;t like being stereotyped.. do you?
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i dont like italians being portrayed as dumb gangster mobsters but it happens on tv and commercials everyday. i deal with it.

jet_black
11-07-2006, 12:54 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Keep on Tickin TiKi &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;48 PM) 1456126</div><div class='quotemain'>
Its very unfortunate that there are racist people in this world that watch football...If you idddiots understood anything...then why would you watch black people on a football field and watch Fox which is run by jews???
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(aczakka &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;51 PM) 1456132</div><div class='quotemain'>
Your missing the fact that the whole world hates jews. Except Hollywood and the media.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;52 PM) 1456136</div><div class='quotemain'>
why is it not racist to say something about muslims or christians but if anyone says anything antijewish all hell breaks loose? we all know the jews knocked down the towers anyway.
lol j/k that last one was a joke from borat.
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Im nominating this for the greatest thread ever. Im also suggesting its deleted immediately, because if anyone sees this they will know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that we have the dumbest fan base this side of extremeskins.com

poop
11-07-2006, 12:54 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;53 PM) 1456144</div><div class='quotemain'>
i dont like gays being portrayed as ###### who wear pink shirts, pretty shoes, and have high voices. i deal with it.
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/forums/html/emoticons/huh.gif you&#39;re a trooper

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:54 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(purged &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;49 PM) 1456137</div><div class='quotemain'>
his reason for the question could be seen as offensive.. people don&#39;t like being stereotyped.. do you?
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He didn&#39;t give a reason until AFTER he was called a racist.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:54 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;54 PM) 1456151</div><div class='quotemain'>
Im nominating this for the greatest thread ever. Im also suggesting its deleted immediately, because if anyone sees this they will know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that we have the dumbest fan base this side of extremeskins.com
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Not all of us. I feel I have a legitimate question. I could be wrong. /forums/html/emoticons/huh.gif

aczakka
11-07-2006, 12:54 AM
for the first time in a while, i agree with you harooni. Why is &quot;JEW&quot; a dirty word?

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:55 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(taylormadeinpa &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;52 PM) 1456146</div><div class='quotemain'>
forget about it
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you racist antiitalianite&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

taylormadeinpa
11-07-2006, 12:56 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;55 PM) 1456150</div><div class='quotemain'>
you racist antiitalianite&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif
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/forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif /forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif /forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif /forums/html/emoticons/laugh.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jet_black &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;54 PM) 1456151</div><div class='quotemain'>
Im nominating this for the greatest thread ever. Im also suggesting its deleted immediately, because if anyone sees this they will know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that we have the dumbest fan base this side of extremeskins.com
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/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif /forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif /forums/html/emoticons/ranting.gif

ElementalEffect
11-07-2006, 12:56 AM
It was more the fact that he said &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot;, implying that talking a lot is directly related to being Jewish. That is not only a stupid and offensive thing to say, but entirely unfounded. So to all of you asking &quot;What&#39;s wrong with asking if someone is Jewish&quot; the answer is that there is nothing wrong with asking the question. But read his entire post before you speak because by by saying &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot; he is typecasting Jews, which is wrong and unfair.

aczakka
11-07-2006, 12:58 AM
this is halarious. &quot;throw the jew down the well, so my country can be free&quot; -Borat.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 12:58 AM
I hope none of you race card pullers have ever told, or laughed at a Polish joke. /forums/html/emoticons/nonono.gif

Harooni
11-07-2006, 12:59 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yay Giants &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;54 PM) 1456153</div><div class='quotemain'>
/forums/html/emoticons/huh.gif you&#39;re a trooper
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i was sticking up for you bobo. /forums/html/emoticons/dry.gif
i like jewish people , i like the person there is good and bad in any race or faith. i have jewish friends and black friends and white pale friends.

Harooni
11-07-2006, 01:00 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ElementalEffect &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;56 PM) 1456161</div><div class='quotemain'>
It was more the fact that he said &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot;, implying that talking a lot is directly related to being Jewish. That is not only a stupid and offensive thing to say, but entirely unfounded. So to all of you asking &quot;What&#39;s wrong with asking if someone is Jewish&quot; the answer is that there is nothing wrong with asking the question. But read his entire post before you speak because by by saying &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot; he is typecasting Jews, which is wrong and unfair.
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and like i said ,put on the tv ,italians/blacks/asians/middle easterners we all get stereotyped alot everyday, why should jews get special treatment? is it because isreal owns us?

poop
11-07-2006, 01:00 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;59 PM) 1456166</div><div class='quotemain'>
i was sticking up for you bobo. /forums/html/emoticons/dry.gif
i like jewish people , i like the person there is good and bad in any race or faith. i have jewish friends and black friends and white pale friends.
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i know dude, i was joking. i dnt know why ppl dnt like you here, ur ok with me. /forums/html/emoticons/blush.gif

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:00 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ElementalEffect &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;56 PM) 1456161</div><div class='quotemain'>
It was more the fact that he said &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot;, implying that talking a lot is directly related to being Jewish. That is not only a stupid and offensive thing to say, but entirely unfounded. So to all of you asking &quot;What&#39;s wrong with asking if someone is Jewish&quot; the answer is that there is nothing wrong with asking the question. But read his entire post before you speak because by by saying &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot; he is typecasting Jews, which is wrong and unfair.
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He said it was because his mother heard him talk. Maybe she heard him say something that typically a Jew might say. Are you denying that different groups of people have different ways of expressing themselves verbally?

If you heard this on the street, &quot;FUGGHEDABOUDIT&#33;&#33;&#33;&quot; Who would you think said that?

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:01 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ElementalEffect &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;56 PM) 1456161</div><div class='quotemain'>
It was more the fact that he said &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot;, implying that talking a lot is directly related to being Jewish. That is not only a stupid and offensive thing to say, but entirely unfounded. So to all of you asking &quot;What&#39;s wrong with asking if someone is Jewish&quot; the answer is that there is nothing wrong with asking the question. But read his entire post before you speak because by by saying &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot; he is typecasting Jews, which is wrong and unfair.
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That was the original problem. What does that have to do with football? Why was it said?

spottysage
11-07-2006, 01:03 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ElementalEffect &#064; Nov 6 2006, 06&#58;56 PM) 1456161</div><div class='quotemain'>
It was more the fact that he said &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot;, implying that talking a lot is directly related to being Jewish. That is not only a stupid and offensive thing to say, but entirely unfounded. So to all of you asking &quot;What&#39;s wrong with asking if someone is Jewish&quot; the answer is that there is nothing wrong with asking the question. But read his entire post before you speak because by by saying &quot;He&#39;s gotta be&quot; he is typecasting Jews, which is wrong and unfair.
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Thank you&#33; I tried to say that&#33;

BigD 10
11-07-2006, 01:03 AM
To make an attempt at the original question of if hes a jew: He grew up in the same town on Long Island as me and went to the same high school which has/had a majority of jews in the population. His last name is a good indication that hes jewish too,.

jet_black
11-07-2006, 01:04 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;00 PM) 1456179</div><div class='quotemain'>


If you heard this on the street, &quot;FUGGHEDABOUDIT&#33;&#33;&#33;&quot; Who would you think said that?
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Paulie Walnuts?

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:05 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(BigD 10 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;03 PM) 1456186</div><div class='quotemain'>
To make an attempt at the original question of if hes a jew: He grew up in the same town on Long Island as me and went to the same high school which has/had a majority of jews in the population. His last name is a good indication that hes jewish too,.
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He&#39;s also mentioned on the show that he&#39;s Jewish.

GOBIGBLUE50
11-07-2006, 01:06 AM
THIS TOPIC SUCKS AND IS NOW ABOUT TRAINS&#33;

I like it when they go choo choo&#33;

gateb
11-07-2006, 01:06 AM
I think Tony Kornheiser is the best analyst ever.

Can we please change the topic?

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:06 AM
Hey dude I told to shut the ###### up, I apologize. I may have jumped the gun a little there, and I was wrong. /forums/html/emoticons/blush.gif

ElementalEffect
11-07-2006, 01:07 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Harooni &#064; Nov 6 2006, 08&#58;00 PM) 1456173</div><div class='quotemain'>
and like i said ,put on the tv ,italians/blacks/asians/middle easterners we all get stereotyped alot everyday, why should jews get special treatment? is it because isreal owns us?
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Please don&#39;t be an idiot. So because we see stereotypes and racism on TV and from other people that it should go unnoticed. No one said that Jews should get special treatment so don&#39;t put words in other people&#39;s mouths. I think it&#39;s wrong to say things about blacks, italians, asians, whatever. But, that is not we are talking about. We are talking about one comment made by one person that was ignorant.

Yes, buddy, Israel owns us. haha. You seem very childish by making comments like that. I&#39;m just gonna let it slide because you don&#39;t seem very informed

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:07 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GOBIGBLUE50 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;06 PM) 1456192</div><div class='quotemain'>
THIS TOPIC SUCKS AND IS NOW ABOUT TRAINS&#33;

I like it when they go choo choo&#33;
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Careful, with some of thehate propaganda it might say somehitng else.

I saw an epsiode of Everbody Loves Raymond the other day, Choo Choo gone..... It was funny.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:07 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(GOBIGBLUE50 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;06 PM) 1456192</div><div class='quotemain'>
THIS TOPIC SUCKS AND IS NOW ABOUT TRAINS&#33;

I like it when they go choo choo&#33;
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Are you saying all trains go choo choo???&#33;&#33;&#33;

YOU ARE A BIGOT&#33;&#33;&#33;

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:08 AM
Thanks FFF.

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:09 AM
I just don&#39;t get it. The comment was offensive - and I&#39;m not Jewish. And people want to laugh about it and act like it&#39;s not a big deal. I thought there was more respect for people on this board.

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:10 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;09 PM) 1456204</div><div class='quotemain'>
I just don&#39;t get it. The comment was offensive - and I&#39;m not Jewish. And people want to laugh about it and act like it&#39;s not a big deal. I thought there was more respect for people on this board.
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The comment asking if Kornheiser was a &quot;Jew?&quot;

Is it offenseive because the person didn&#39;t ask if he was Jewish, and instead asked if he was a &quot;Jew?&quot;

It&#39;s not like he asked if TK was a K rhymes with bike.

giantfun17
11-07-2006, 01:10 AM
Tony Kornheiser is half man half corndog,just ask Joe

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:11 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;09 PM) 1456204</div><div class='quotemain'>
I just don&#39;t get it. The comment was offensive - and I&#39;m not Jewish. And people want to laugh about it and act like it&#39;s not a big deal. I thought there was more respect for people on this board.
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I don&#39;t know if you noticed, but I apologized to you up there^^^ /forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;08 PM) 1456207</div><div class='quotemain'>
Thanks FFF.
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Show some god damn respect man&#33;&#33; It&#39;s FOUR F&#39;s&#33;&#33;&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:12 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;11 PM) 1456209</div><div class='quotemain'>
Show some god damn respect man&#33;&#33; It&#39;s FOUR F&#39;s&#33;&#33;&#33; /forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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If you understand the s/n, you know 4f is an insult.

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:14 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;12 PM) 1456219</div><div class='quotemain'>
If you understand the s/n, you know 4f is an insult.
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How so, feefifofum is what a Giant says... I&#39;m so confused....

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:15 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dyinghard &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;10 PM) 1456216</div><div class='quotemain'>
The comment asking if Kornheiser was a &quot;Jew?&quot;

Is it offenseive because the person didn&#39;t ask if he was Jewish, and instead asked if he was a &quot;Jew?&quot;

It&#39;s not like he asked if TK was a K rhymes with bike.
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I have this issue with my son&#39;s school. They call black kids &quot;African-American&quot; and white kids, &quot;white&quot;.

My son told me a teacher told him saying &quot;black&quot; is offensive.

Why is it ok to call my son &quot;white&quot; then?

I think this is why I jumped all over that one guy, but I think everyone can see my point. Can&#39;t ya&#39;s??

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:15 AM
Everybody has sensitivities on the issue of ethnicity and/or race. Bettter is the board recognizes only BLUE and not-blue

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:16 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;15 PM) 1456232</div><div class='quotemain'>
Everybody has sensitivities on the issue of ethnicity and/or race. Bettter is the board recognizes only BLUE and not-blue
</div>

Better still... <span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#3333FF">BIG BLUE</span></span>

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:16 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;15 PM) 1456223</div><div class='quotemain'>
I have this issue with my son&#39;s school. They call black kids &quot;African-American&quot; and white kids, &quot;white&quot;.

My son told me a teacher told him saying &quot;black&quot; is offensive.

Why is it ok to call my son &quot;white&quot; then?

I think this is why I jumped all over that one guy, but I think everyone can see my point. Can&#39;t ya&#39;s??
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We could be called Euro American, or even caucasian. Or white devil. I could give a rats ash less what you call me. You can call me the Kraut,Mick,Guinnea,Wop,Dego oppressor. I could care less.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:16 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;12 PM) 1456219</div><div class='quotemain'>
If you understand the s/n, you know 4f is an insult.
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I don&#39;t understand, and I wouldn&#39;t be insulted anyway.

giantfun17
11-07-2006, 01:17 AM
Why do they have brail at the drive up window at the bank .Thats just the way the world is Black, White ,Jew its all the same

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:18 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;16 PM) 1456228</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don&#39;t understand, and I wouldn&#39;t be insulted anyway.
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Back in the day . . .
4F was a draft classification that meant person could never be called up
guys in military resented the hell out of it
just a grunt refers to marine infantry
keep forgettingmost guys on board would not know

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:18 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(giantfun17 &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;17 PM) 1456238</div><div class='quotemain'>
Why do they have brail at the drive up window at the bank .Thats just the way the world is Black, White ,Jew its all the same
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/forums/html/emoticons/blink.gif Yes, Braille at the Drive-Thru and racism, clearly the same.....

ElementalEffect
11-07-2006, 01:20 AM
Whatever, honestly, what one person says or thinks is not the end of the world. He probably didn&#39;t mean anything by it, at least I hope not, and didn&#39;t think it would stir up all of this heat. So lets just forget about it. Yes, Kornheiser is Jewish, no it is not because he talks a lot, yes he is a good analyst........1 more...........ummmm......yes, the Giant will smash the Bears on Sunday.

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:21 AM
What people prefer to be called needs to stop morphing, it&#39;s tough to keep track.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:21 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dyinghard &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;16 PM) 1456236</div><div class='quotemain'>
We could be called Euro American, or even caucasian. Or white devil. I could give a rats ash less what you call me. You can call me the Kraut,Mick,Guinnea,Wop,Dego oppressor. I could care less.
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I don&#39;t care either, but why should my son watch his tongue, hoping not to &quot;offend&#39; anyone and wonder why he can&#39;t call his friends &quot;black&quot;, but they can call him &quot;white&quot;?

It&#39;s just wrong, and confusing to an impressionable mind.

gji074
11-07-2006, 01:22 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;23 PM) 1456254</div><div class='quotemain'>
Stereotyping?
Just kidding man. I get ya. I will not refer to myself as 4F in your respect, and thanks for your services. I really mean that. /forums/html/emoticons/thumbup.gif
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Stereotyping me as old. good catch

dyinghard
11-07-2006, 01:22 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ElementalEffect &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;20 PM) 1456240</div><div class='quotemain'>
Whatever, honestly, what one person says or thinks is not the end of the world. He probably didn&#39;t mean anything by it, at least I hope not, and didn&#39;t think it would stir up all of this heat. So lets just forget about it. Yes, Kornheiser is Jewish, no it is not because he talks a lot, yes he is a good analyst........1 more...........ummmm......yes, the Giant will smash the Bears on Sunday.
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Well, if talking a lot was the determining factor we&#39;d all be considered yenta&#39;s. A yiddish word by the way. Mazel Tov biothces.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(feefifoefum &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;21 PM) 1456247</div><div class='quotemain'>
I don&#39;t care either, but why should my son watch his tongue, hoping not to &quot;offend&#39; anyone and wonder why he can&#39;t call his friends &quot;black&quot;, but they can call him &quot;white&quot;?

It&#39;s just wrong, and confusing to an impressionable mind.
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Oh I hear you. I stopped caring about offending people long ago. If you&#39;re easily offended, you need to reevaluate what&#39;s important.

feefifoefum
11-07-2006, 01:23 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(just a grunt &#064; Nov 6 2006, 07&#58;18 PM) 1456243</div><div class='quotemain'>
Back in the day . . .
4F was a draft classification that meant person could never be called up
guys in military resented the hell out of it
just a grunt refers to marine infantry
keep forgettingmost guys on board would not know</div>

Stereotyping?


Just kidding man. I get ya. I will not refer to myself as 4F in your respect, and thanks for your services. I really mean that. /forums/html/emoticons/thumbup.gif

Moderator_J
11-07-2006, 01:41 AM
You guys were told about this kind of stuff being discussed here, and you were told about it countless times

If you can&#39;t keep race, religion, and/or politics out of this forum, you will not post here again

Plain and simple. No room for discussion, and don&#39;t say we didn&#39;t warn each and every one of you about it.