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Markroman
02-06-2012, 10:26 AM
To me the turning point was Tom Brady trying to make a big play out of nothing on the Blackburn pick.

The Pats had a drive going and forcing the ball into coverage to me was a very bad decision by Brady.

To me the difference in the game was Eli Manning was more patient than Tom Brady.

Diamondring
02-06-2012, 10:29 AM
I thought that Brady forgot that his favorite target had a slight injury. It happens in the heat of the moment.

Morehead State
02-06-2012, 10:31 AM
To me the turning point was Tom Brady trying to make a big play out of nothing on the Blackburn pick. The Pats had a drive going and forcing the ball into coverage to me was a very bad decision by Brady. To me the difference in the game was Eli Manning was more patient than Tom Brady.</P>


He had his best weapon, one on one vs. a slow MLB, who was on the couch two months earlier. Any QB worth their salt would have gladly tried to exploit that matchup.</P>


That was the right decision, but Chase just made a great play. Your analysis is way off on this one.</P>

GameTime
02-06-2012, 10:32 AM
good QB play by Eli...</P>


very very fortunate fumble and recoveries for the Giants. The Cruz "non"fumble with 12 defenders on the field was huge as well.</P>


Both teams made enough good plays and poor plays to win or lose. The Giants just put them together better for the win. Some poor clock management by the Giants too almost backfired huge.</P>


Dont forget Gronkowski was very close to having a miracle happen at the end too...</P>


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Joe Morrison
02-06-2012, 10:36 AM
good QB play by Eli...</P>


very very fortunate fumble and recoveries for the Giants. The Cruz "non"fumble with 12 defenders on the field was huge as well.</P>


Both teams made enough good plays and poor plays to win or lose. The Giants just put them together better for the win. Some poor clock management by the Giants too almost backfired huge.</P>


Dont forget Gronkowski was very close to having a miracle happen at the end too...</P>


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Just to put it all in perspective, on the replay Gronk was not really in any position to make a play on the ball, just more BS hype from the media who wanted the Pats to win, sorry, the GMEN were and are the better team hands down, from QB - Recievers - Running Backs - Defense and Head Coach!@</P>

CDN_G-FAN
02-06-2012, 10:41 AM
the first argument that i'd make is that belichek is leveraging tom brady too much. he's putting too much pressure on his QB by not getting a deep threat WR or a defense that isn't a patchwork of misfits.</P>


second argument i'd make is Tom Brady isn't the same QB anymore. He needed help from his receivers and didn't get it, but he missed critical throws or opportunities in the 4th (Welker throw a little off, can't convert the 3rd and 11, throws behind branch in the last drive).</P>


If that's Mark Sanchez or Philip Rivers on the other side of the ball in that game, everyone's talking about how they just weren't good enough to beat Eli.</P>


Instead, they're talking about dropped balls. Fair enough, but 6 years ago Brady puts it on Welkers numbers or converts the 3rd and 11 after, or leads Branch instead of throwing into trailing coverage, and the game could have a drastically different outcome.</P>


Fact of the matter is Tom Brady wasn't good enough to win that game. Period. End of discussion.</P>

gumby742
02-06-2012, 10:44 AM
That was a good decision imo. Your star TE being covered by essentially a guy who was dragged off the street a few weeks ago? I'm sure he's throw it up again if he had the chance.</P>

Markroman
02-06-2012, 10:59 AM
You think Brady knew who was deep downfield when he made the throw.

The pass was underthrown and no way anyone could make a play on it other than Blackburn.

This was not a 3rd down play. Brady had the lead and last think he needed to do is give the ball back to the Giants.

Morehead State
02-06-2012, 11:03 AM
You think Brady knew who was deep downfield when he made the throw. The pass was underthrown and no way anyone could make a play on it other than Blackburn. This was not a 3rd down play. Brady had the lead and last think he needed to do is give the ball back to the Giants.</P>


So now you are saying it was a bad throw and not a bad decision. he threw it downfield and into a great matchup. And he threw it as far as he could given the pressure he faced on the play. It was the right decision. Thats what you do in the NFL. When you have single coverage (and a mismatch to boot) you make the throw.</P>


You guys love knocking Brady. I choose to give our guys credit for making great plays against a great QB.</P>

Markroman
02-06-2012, 11:07 AM
Bad decision and bad pass. if i recall it was on 1st down or 2nd down.

Last thing you want to do is give the Giants the ball.

They were on a drive where they could eat up time and put points on the board. They did neither.

Robert21156
02-06-2012, 11:46 AM
To me the turning point was Tom Brady trying to make a big play out of nothing on the Blackburn pick. The Pats had a drive going and forcing the ball into coverage to me was a very bad decision by Brady. To me the difference in the game was Eli Manning was more patient than Tom Brady.</P>


He had his best weapon, one on one vs. a slow MLB, who was on the couch two months earlier. Any QB worth their salt would have gladly tried to exploit that matchup.</P>


That was the right decision, but Chase just made a great play. Your analysis is way off on this one.</P>


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Yeah, Brady's only "fault" on that play was underthrowing the ball. Chase made a great play on it. "You just can't throw on Chase Blackburn" (I read that somewhere else!).</P>

chasjay
02-06-2012, 12:02 PM
You think Brady knew who was deep downfield when he made the throw. The pass was underthrown and no way anyone could make a play on it other than Blackburn. This was not a 3rd down play. Brady had the lead and last think he needed to do is give the ball back to the Giants.</p>


So now you are saying it was a bad throw and not a bad decision. he threw it downfield and into a great matchup. And he threw it as far as he could given the pressure he faced on the play. It was the right decision. Thats what you do in the NFL. When you have single coverage (and a mismatch to boot) you make the throw.</p>


You guys love knocking Brady. I choose to give our guys credit for making great plays against a great QB.</p>

I don't think it was a bad decision to gamble a chance for a long TD against a pick inside the 10 yardline. The ball had to have a lot of air under it to get there and it gave Chase time to make a play. On the play where Nicks nearly got his head torn off, that pass from Eli also had to have air and it gave the defender time to close on Nicks.

I don't think Brady's skills have diminished so much as the overall talent of the Patriots has decreased. Do you think Matt Cassell could step in with this NE roster and do what he did a few years ago when Brady was hurt? I don't. I'm a Giants fan all the way and certainly don't intend to make excuses for Brady, but in the same circumstances, I'd have expected Eli to take that shot - and it might have worked and it might not.

GameTime
02-06-2012, 12:12 PM
good QB play by Eli...</P>


very very fortunate fumble and recoveries for the Giants. The Cruz "non"fumble with 12 defenders on the field was huge as well.</P>


Both teams made enough good plays and poor plays to win or lose. The Giants just put them together better for the win. Some poor clock management by the Giants too almost backfired huge.</P>


Dont forget Gronkowski was very close to having a miracle happen at the end too...</P>


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Just to put it all in perspective, on the replay Gronk was not really in any position to make a play on the ball, just more BS hype from the media who wanted the Pats to win, sorry, the GMEN were and are the better team hands down, from QB - Recievers - Running Backs - Defense and Head Coach!@</P>


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my post may have come across as the Giants were lucky but that wasnt my intention. It was a sloppy game at times by both teams but the Giants put together the right plays at the right times to capitilize and win....</P>