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giantsfan420
02-08-2012, 08:19 AM
ESPN is running the Gronks dancing and hopping around like a madman story and talking about how NE fans feel about this.

BB is known to cut ties with classless players regardless of status, its buy into the team or peace.

We've seen this repeatedly from BB. Even tho Gronk is amazing at TE, he already had that incident with the porn star, and now this? And this isn't like the porn star story and really nothing, this is serious bc he had zero impact on the SB game really because of his supposed "injury".

How do you think this plays out?

giantsfan420
02-08-2012, 08:21 AM
for the record, I'd rather have a guy with heart like Ballard who would give it his all to try and get back out there, and literally have to collapse from agony to stop him, while you got a guy like Gronk who is so physically talented, boo hooing an ankle injury that seemingly was about as serious as a paper cut...

buddy33
02-08-2012, 08:28 AM
What? You really think he was faking his injury? Did you see when it happened? It looked like he broke his leg. He was clearly not the same player because of it.

By the way, yesterday on ESPN they said it was a team party and not really a big deal.

bansaw
02-08-2012, 08:32 AM
alcohol helps fix everything

Shockey Jr loves his booze

giantsfan420
02-08-2012, 08:39 AM
What? You really think he was faking his injury? Did you see when it happened? It looked like he broke his leg. He was clearly not the same player because of it.

By the way, yesterday on ESPN they said it was a team party and not really a big deal.

its odd. i don't know what to think although I do KNOW he wasn't nearly as injured as let on. Gronks himself said he was about 100% and wouldn't need surgery leading up to the game.

did YOU see the videos of him dancing? not just the one clip, but their are several clips and the one ESPN showed was of him being all agile and putting a ton of weight onto his ankle. Like he was full out jumping around on it, cutting on it, and ESPN was saying he looked like he didn't even have an injury...

doesn't matter much what I think as NE fans are livid right now, and rightfully so. If the situation was with a giants player and he was able to do what Gronk was doing AFTER THE LOSS, I'd want the player gone.

hungrrrry
02-08-2012, 08:48 AM
What? You really think he was faking his injury? Did you see when it happened? It looked like he broke his leg. He was clearly not the same player because of it. By the way, yesterday on ESPN they said it was a team party and not really a big deal. its odd. i don't know what to think although I do KNOW he wasn't nearly as injured as let on. Gronks himself said he was about 100% and wouldn't need surgery leading up to the game. did YOU see the videos of him dancing? not just the one clip, but their are several clips and the one ESPN showed was of him being all agile and putting a ton of weight onto his ankle. Like he was full out jumping around on it, cutting on it, and ESPN was saying he looked like he didn't even have an injury... doesn't matter much what I think as NE fans are livid right now, and rightfully so. If the situation was with a giants player and he was able to do what Gronk was doing AFTER THE LOSS, I'd want the player gone.</P>


Gronkowski also stated after the game that his ineffectiveness had nothing to do with the ankle injury.</P>

GMENAGAIN
02-08-2012, 09:28 AM
What? You really think he was faking his injury? Did you see when it happened? It looked like he broke his leg. He was clearly not the same player because of it. By the way, yesterday on ESPN they said it was a team party and not really a big deal. its odd. i don't know what to think although I do KNOW he wasn't nearly as injured as let on. Gronks himself said he was about 100% and wouldn't need surgery leading up to the game. did YOU see the videos of him dancing? not just the one clip, but their are several clips and the one ESPN showed was of him being all agile and putting a ton of weight onto his ankle. Like he was full out jumping around on it, cutting on it, and ESPN was saying he looked like he didn't even have an injury... doesn't matter much what I think as NE fans are livid right now, and rightfully so. If the situation was with a giants player and he was able to do what Gronk was doing AFTER THE LOSS, I'd want the player gone.</P>


Gronkowski also stated after the game that his ineffectiveness had nothing to do with the ankle injury.</P>


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What do you expect him to say? He's trying not to be a crybaby and make excuses . . . . </P>


If you think that: (1) he was 100% in that game and/or (2) that Belicheck would even consider cutting him, you are delusional . . . . .</P>

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 09:32 AM
i GUARANTEE YOU BB has a heart to heart with Gronk.</P>


if you know ANYTHING about his coaching style, he HATES this.</P>


BB was probably dying a thousand deaths Sunday night, and to see pics of guys partying on stage would send him over the edge.</P>


I'll be interested to see how its handled, if we hear anything at all.</P>

Ruttiger711
02-08-2012, 09:34 AM
What? You really think he was faking his injury? Did you see when it happened? It looked like he broke his leg. He was clearly not the same player because of it. By the way, yesterday on ESPN they said it was a team party and not really a big deal. its odd. i don't know what to think although I do KNOW he wasn't nearly as injured as let on. Gronks himself said he was about 100% and wouldn't need surgery leading up to the game. did YOU see the videos of him dancing? not just the one clip, but their are several clips and the one ESPN showed was of him being all agile and putting a ton of weight onto his ankle. Like he was full out jumping around on it, cutting on it, and ESPN was saying he looked like he didn't even have an injury... doesn't matter much what I think as NE fans are livid right now, <FONT color=#0000ff size=6>and rightfully so</FONT>. If the situation was with a giants player and he was able to do what Gronk was doing AFTER THE LOSS, I'd want the player gone.</P>


NE fans who are uspet about players blowing off steam after the game are idiots. Its not like he was hopping around on it before the game. </P>


Narcissistic morons who would only feel better if the players were weeping until next season. </P>

bansaw
02-08-2012, 09:46 AM
i GUARANTEE YOU BB has a heart to heart with Gronk.</p>


if you know ANYTHING about his coaching style, he HATES this.</p>


BB was probably dying a thousand deaths Sunday night, and to see pics of guys partying on stage would send him over the edge.</p>


I'll be interested to see how its handled, if we hear anything at all.</p>**** like that got Coughlin to bench Bradshaw for the half in the biggest gamed of the year

no Coach will tolerate partying, but the season was over so what can you say. Guess they'd still have a couple meetings then close up shop but it'd be hard to voice being pissed I think
I don't think you'd be happy as a Coach knowing one of your stars is a drunk...you know you've lost at least 3 years from them getting lazy and self centered

Elaxico
02-08-2012, 10:03 AM
What? You really think he was faking his injury? Did you see when it happened? It looked like he broke his leg. He was clearly not the same player because of it. By the way, yesterday on ESPN they said it was a team party and not really a big deal. its odd. i don't know what to think although I do KNOW he wasn't nearly as injured as let on. Gronks himself said he was about 100% and wouldn't need surgery leading up to the game. did YOU see the videos of him dancing? not just the one clip, but their are several clips and the one ESPN showed was of him being all agile and putting a ton of weight onto his ankle. Like he was full out jumping around on it, cutting on it, and ESPN was saying he looked like he didn't even have an injury... doesn't matter much what I think as NE fans are livid right now, and rightfully so. If the situation was with a giants player and he was able to do what Gronk was doing AFTER THE LOSS, I'd want the player gone.</P>


Gronkowski also stated after the game that his ineffectiveness had nothing to do with the ankle injury.</P>

And that it was our awesome defense.

TuckYou
02-08-2012, 10:04 AM
i GUARANTEE YOU BB has a heart to heart with Gronk.</P>


if you know ANYTHING about his coaching style, he HATES this.</P>


BB was probably dying a thousand deaths Sunday night, and to see pics of guys partying on stage would send him over the edge.</P>


I'll be interested to see how its handled, if we hear anything at all.</P>


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yup. BB hates this. Too much attention. </P>

buddy33
02-08-2012, 10:08 AM
I could be wrong but I thought I heard them say on ESPN yesterday that it was a team party and the owner was there or threw the party. Something along those lines. If true he is in no trouble at all.

ELIteManning
02-08-2012, 10:16 AM
I could be wrong but I thought I heard them say on ESPN yesterday that it was a team party and the owner was there or threw the party. Something along those lines. If true he is in no trouble at all.

Yes the party was set up by the Kraft family. I have talked to a few people who were at the party within the organization and no one was upset with Gronk in the slightest. In fact they all thought it was insane how much attention this was getting.

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 10:19 AM
i GUARANTEE YOU BB has a heart to heart with Gronk.</P>


if you know ANYTHING about his coaching style, he HATES this.</P>


BB was probably dying a thousand deaths Sunday night, and to see pics of guys partying on stage would send him over the edge.</P>


I'll be interested to see how its handled, if we hear anything at all.</P>


**** like that got Coughlin to bench Bradshaw for the half in the biggest gamed of the year

no Coach will tolerate partying, but the season was over so what can you say. Guess they'd still have a couple meetings then close up shop but it'd be hard to voice being pissed I think
I don't think you'd be happy as a Coach knowing one of your stars is a drunk...you know you've lost at least 3 years from them getting lazy and self centered

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BB was flamed in 2008 for just running off the field without shaking hands, and i flamed him too, but he didn't do that because he's an *******, he did that because every single cell in his body HATES HATES HATES losing, and he had nothing left in him, including enough sense to be a good sportsman, to go and congratulate the winners. </P>


I think he wants a team that hates losing as much as he does. Who wouldn't?</P>


So you can't tell the guy not to party after the season is over, but you can call into question exactly how badly he wants to win relative to how important he is to the team's success.</P>


I would, and i wouldn't feel bad doing it either. There's nothing wrong with going out and partying after you lost a championship if you want to be an average player.</P>


But if you want to be what Gronk appears he could be, HOFer and backbone of the teams receiving corps, he needs to show more competitive fire than that.</P>

Ruttiger711
02-08-2012, 10:30 AM
i GUARANTEE YOU BB has a heart to heart with Gronk.</P>


if you know ANYTHING about his coaching style, he HATES this.</P>


BB was probably dying a thousand deaths Sunday night, and to see pics of guys partying on stage would send him over the edge.</P>


I'll be interested to see how its handled, if we hear anything at all.</P>


**** like that got Coughlin to bench Bradshaw for the half in the biggest gamed of the year

no Coach will tolerate partying, but the season was over so what can you say. Guess they'd still have a couple meetings then close up shop but it'd be hard to voice being pissed I think
I don't think you'd be happy as a Coach knowing one of your stars is a drunk...you know you've lost at least 3 years from them getting lazy and self centered

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BB was flamed in 2008 for just running off the field without shaking hands, and i flamed him too, but he didn't do that because he's an *******, he did that because every single cell in his body HATES HATES HATES losing, and he had nothing left in him, including enough sense to be a good sportsman, to go and congratulate the winners. </P>


I think he wants a team that hates losing as much as he does. Who wouldn't?</P>


So you can't tell the guy not to party after the season is over, but you can call into question exactly how badly he wants to win relative to how important he is to the team's success.</P>


I would, and i wouldn't feel bad doing it either. There's nothing wrong with going out and partying after you lost a championship if you want to be an average player.</P>


But if you want to be what Gronk appears he could be, HOFer and backbone of the teams receiving corps, he needs to show more competitive fire than that.</P>


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The work, 7 days a week from the time camp started until he dove for that hail mary on a bum ankle is the competitive fire -MORE competitive fire?!... because what, he wasnt pouting around? </P>


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bLuereverie
02-08-2012, 10:32 AM
Did you guys not see his dancing skills? Looks like a lot more body parts than just his ankle were defective on that dance floor.

ny06
02-08-2012, 10:33 AM
Am I the only one who finds this idiotic?</P>


What the Hell are they having a party for? </P>


We lost the Super Bowl; let's partyyyyyyyyyyy</P>


I understand it's a long season, and they put in alot of hard work. But this was just bad timing. </P>

Bing Crosby
02-08-2012, 10:33 AM
BB was flamed in 2008 for just running off the field without shaking hands, and i flamed him too, but he didn't do that because he's an *******, he did that because every single cell in his body HATES HATES HATES losing, and he had nothing left in him, including enough sense to be a good sportsman, to go and congratulate the winners.


I think he wants a team that hates losing as much as he does. Who wouldn't?</p>


So you can't tell the guy not to party after the season is over, but you can call into question exactly how badly he wants to win relative to how important he is to the team's success.</p>


I would, and i wouldn't feel bad doing it either. There's nothing wrong with going out and partying after you lost a championship if you want to be an average player.</p>


But if you want to be what Gronk appears he could be, HOFer and backbone of the teams receiving corps, he needs to show more competitive fire than that.</p>

I agree. Perhaps it's because I never got beyond my senior year in high school playing football, and therefor I have a hard time seeing the sport beyond that emotional drive to succeed, but every lose we ever suffered made me sick as a dog. The idea of getting up and partying after losing the biggest game of the year just doesn't compute with me.

Yes these guys are pros, they don't play for pride they play for money. Yeah I get that. Yes they deserve to celebrate a great season, I get that too. It was basically a fully paid party by the boss, and you may not see some guys again. Yeah I get that too. If I was in a situation though where my team had lost the Superbowl and one of the reasons we lost was I wasn't as affective as usually (whether that's because of an injury or the opposing team) I'm sitting in my room with a bottle. Maybe that just says more about me though. Different strokes an all that garbage. I could see why BB would be annoyed over it though.

Get together with the boys for a great season this weekend? Sure. But right after such a lose, to go out partying in a celebrating manner? No. That's just not something I'd want anything to do with. And had the G-Men lost and been taped doing this, it would bother me. I'm old fashion I know but it would.

Sundown
02-08-2012, 10:35 AM
Gronkowski is an idiot and the Boston media should blast him for this. I'd be pissed if I was a Pats fan!! Ballard tries to run back onto the field w/a ACL tear and gronk is dancing the ****ing jig at a party after losing the super bowl. Wow!!

bansaw
02-08-2012, 10:38 AM
Am I the only one who finds this idiotic?</p>


What the Hell are they having a party for? </p>


We lost the Super Bowl; let's partyyyyyyyyyyy</p>


I understand it's a long season, and they put in alot of hard work. But this was just bad timing. </p>old timers losing their minds

I remember seeing deacon Jones absolutely livid talking about the players instantly going and greeting after the game ends...Deacon couldnt fathom the idea

bLuereverie
02-08-2012, 10:38 AM
Also, there is far too much stock in this benevolent concept of "class".

Yes it is important, and a priority in terms of the individual you bring in and how they represent their team and franchise, but no one is going to sacrifice production and success for a choir boy with a 6.2 40.

Gronk didn't do anything wrong. When football ends, he goes back to being human.

Bing Crosby
02-08-2012, 10:55 AM
I'm a bit curious, how many of you guys who are just fine with it or even think it's great, did you guys actually play the game when you were younger?

That's my biggest thing. Maybe it's because I was a kid when I played, but I still can't see the idea of going to a party after losing the biggest game of the year. A week later? Sure. A few hours later? No. I couldn't do it. No way in hell. And had any of my teammates told me to come with them I'd of told them at the time that they are out of their minds. I just don't understand it at all. I couldn't survive the emotional swing from "huge failure" to partying it up.

I'd be back in my room. I'd pack my stuff, drink and go to sleep. I wouldn't want to see anybody, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go to a party. I'm sure a lot of you guys would be giving me **** about it if you were on my team, but I couldn't do it.

But that's the difference of playing a game from pride like you do in high school, and playing it for a living I suppose.

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 11:03 AM
i GUARANTEE YOU BB has a heart to heart with Gronk.</P>


if you know ANYTHING about his coaching style, he HATES this.</P>


BB was probably dying a thousand deaths Sunday night, and to see pics of guys partying on stage would send him over the edge.</P>


I'll be interested to see how its handled, if we hear anything at all.</P>


**** like that got Coughlin to bench Bradshaw for the half in the biggest gamed of the year

no Coach will tolerate partying, but the season was over so what can you say. Guess they'd still have a couple meetings then close up shop but it'd be hard to voice being pissed I think
I don't think you'd be happy as a Coach knowing one of your stars is a drunk...you know you've lost at least 3 years from them getting lazy and self centered

</P>


BB was flamed in 2008 for just running off the field without shaking hands, and i flamed him too, but he didn't do that because he's an *******, he did that because every single cell in his body HATES HATES HATES losing, and he had nothing left in him, including enough sense to be a good sportsman, to go and congratulate the winners. </P>


I think he wants a team that hates losing as much as he does. Who wouldn't?</P>


So you can't tell the guy not to party after the season is over, but you can call into question exactly how badly he wants to win relative to how important he is to the team's success.</P>


I would, and i wouldn't feel bad doing it either. There's nothing wrong with going out and partying after you lost a championship if you want to be an average player.</P>


But if you want to be what Gronk appears he could be, HOFer and backbone of the teams receiving corps, he needs to show more competitive fire than that.</P>


</P>


The work, 7 days a week from the time camp started until he dove for that hail mary on a bum ankle is the competitive fire -MORE competitive fire?!... because what, he wasnt pouting around? </P>


</P>


</P>


Frankly?Yes.</P>


Look at that game. Look at the margin of error between the winner and the loser. It's microscopic.</P>


The work, 7 days a week, and then physical sacrifice of playing on a horrible ankle, andhis reaction for coming up short is after all that commitment and sacrifice is to get hammered, take off your shirt and dance on stage?</P>


Hey, if that's what they do, i wanna face New England in the SB every time we're there. </P>


Every time. if they hate losing so little that 20 beers and a top 40 band can get them dancing the night away after a literal professional disaster, give me that team 10 times out of 10 in the championship game.</P>

nygsb42champs
02-08-2012, 11:07 AM
I think they work this out. There is no way I can see BB letting this guy go.

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 11:11 AM
I'm a bit curious, how many of you guys who are just fine with it or even think it's great, did you guys actually play the game when you were younger?

That's my biggest thing. Maybe it's because I was a kid when I played, but I still can't see the idea of going to a party after losing the biggest game of the year. A week later? Sure. A few hours later? No. I couldn't do it. No way in hell. And had any of my teammates told me to come with them I'd of told them at the time that they are out of their minds. I just don't understand it at all. I couldn't survive the emotional swing from "huge failure" to partying it up.

I'd be back in my room. I'd pack my stuff, drink and go to sleep. I wouldn't want to see anybody, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go to a party. I'm sure a lot of you guys would be giving me **** about it if you were on my team, but I couldn't do it.

But that's the difference of playing a game from pride like you do in high school, and playing it for a living I suppose.
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that's the point. for some people its just a game, its just a job.</P>


I suck at sports, but i exceeded my brutal physical talents because i HATE LOSING SO MUCH.</P>


if you're truly competitive, that display by Gronk turns your stomach.</P>


i hate to be mellow dramatic about it, but it's like losing a family member and going out dancing to feel better.</P>


Jerry Rice said that he was literally TERRIFIED of failing. Lost sleep over it. Trained exclusively because of it. Says he regrets the personal sacrifices he made in his life because of his phobia of losing. He sounds emotionally scarred to this day about the moments before he would take the field and the potential of him screwing up affecting the team.</P>


Give me 53 nutjobs just like that.</P>


That is a nearly universal trait in champions. they hate losing more than theylove winning. alot more.</P>


i think because most people here like to blow off steam in a similar fashion, they're looking at this as 'whats the big deal'.</P>


Welkers drop, Brady's safety, 12 men on the field. another 5 minutes of prep may or may not have changed the outcome of any of those moments.</P>


but any one of those moments could have COMPLETELY changed the outcome of the superbowl.</P>


the margin between winning and losing is so thin, this kind of thing matters.</P>

ELIteManning
02-08-2012, 11:53 AM
The party was set up by the Kraft family for all the players, coaches, and families. It is not like Gronk or some of the players hit the club after or threw their own. It was set up by the owner of the team weeks in advanced. It was fully catered, open bar,...etc.. Just because they lost they are supposed to stand Mr. Kraft up? Cmon be real here. I understand the dancing was a little over the top but these guys had a great season. Alcohol obviously played a roll in their attitude here. They had multiple bands and celebrities there as well. Probably not that hard to get caught up in the moment.

Ruttiger711
02-08-2012, 12:01 PM
the margin between winning and losing is so thin, this kind of thing matters.</P>


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Welker had an all-time season as a WR - failed to execute in the SB while injury free - not seen partying</P>


Gronk had an all time season as a TE - failed to execute in the SB probably due to injury- seen partying</P>


the partying after the superbowl DOES NOT MATTER.... if anything he just has to realize there are cameras everywhere and people lined up to overreact. </P>

Itlan
02-08-2012, 12:02 PM
Want to see what drugs and alcohol do to you? Watch Gronk.

He was clearly on painkillers, shot up on some crazy **** most likely, and then started pounding drinks. No wonder he was all over the place, he could've had a torn ACL and a broken femur and he'd still be dancing out there with that lethal combo.

Ruttiger711
02-08-2012, 12:03 PM
Want to see what drugs and alcohol do to you? Watch Gronk. He was clearly on painkillers, shot up on some crazy **** most likely, and then started pounding drinks. No wonder he was all over the place, he could've had a torn ACL and a broken femur and he'd still be dancing out there with that lethal combo.</P>


but its ok to be loaded up on meds to play right?</P>

Delicreep
02-08-2012, 12:06 PM
alcohol helps fix everything

Shockey Jr loves his booze


...I can't be the only one who has found that alcohol has stopped me from noticing a significant injury, can I?

Redeyejedi
02-08-2012, 12:09 PM
Wish the Pat trolls would give us there perspective on this but they never returned what a surprise

ShakeNBake
02-08-2012, 12:38 PM
I would be pissed as hell if I was a pats fan, because this was on THE SAME DAY THEY LOST THE SUPERBOWL! If you are out partying after losing the most important game of the season and potentially your career, it shows that you really don't give a damn if you win or lose, and I wouldn't want someone like that on my team. Everyone saying they are professionals just doing their jobs and they shouldn't be emotionally invested in a game are flat out wrong. If you don't love your job especially when you are getting paid the big bucks its time to pursue a different career, get lost because there's someone else waiting and ready to step up to the plate right behind ya.

miked1958
02-08-2012, 12:43 PM
for the record, I'd rather have a guy with heart like Ballard who would give it his all to try and get back out there, and literally have to collapse from agony to stop him, while you got a guy like Gronk who is so physically talented, boo hooing an ankle injury that seemingly was about as serious as a paper cut...</P>


OR what about this angle. ALL we heard leading up to and all throughout the SB game was Gronks ankle this and gronks ankle that.. GRONK GRONK GRONK&gt;.&gt;&gt;</P>


Did we once hear anything regarding the ankles that AB was playing on???? How he came back after missing 4games and led us toward the end of year with getting to the playoffs and then again throughout the playoffs on 2 bad ankles with one being cracked again???? NO, not one word was mentioned at all during playoffs or by those BOZOs that did the SB game that were to busy kissing up to GRONK</P>


Please i dont want to hear another word about his ankle. </P>


And u are right about Ballard. Most guys would have said thats it. i am done. but not ballard.</P>

LT_was_good
02-08-2012, 12:53 PM
for the record, I'd rather have a guy with heart like Ballard who would give it his all to try and get back out there, and literally have to collapse from agony to stop him, while you got a guy like Gronk who is so physically talented, boo hooing an ankle injury that seemingly was about as serious as a paper cut...</p>


OR what about this angle. ALL we heard leading up to and all throughout the SB game was Gronks ankle this and gronks ankle that.. GRONK GRONK GRONK&gt;.&gt;&gt;</p>


Did we once hear anything regarding the ankles that AB was playing on???? How he came back after missing 4games and led us toward the end of year with getting to the playoffs and then again throughout the playoffs on 2 bad ankles with one being cracked again???? NO, not one word was mentioned at all during playoffs or by those BOZOs that did the SB game that were to busy kissing up to GRONK</p>


Please i dont want to hear another word about his ankle. </p>


And u are right about Ballard. Most guys would have said thats it. i am done. but not ballard.</p>

And what about Nicks' shoulder, which he clearly re-aggravated during the game? And he had a beastly game.

Markroman
02-08-2012, 02:54 PM
What would have been funnier...a clip of Gronk dancing with Gisele!