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tucksackstom
02-08-2012, 11:34 AM
i know the budget was real tight last year, wonder if the same this year?

DragonSoul
02-08-2012, 11:37 AM
i know the budget was real tight last year, wonder if the same this year?
about the same. Again depends on who is traded, retires and what not, that can change it a bit.

tucksackstom
02-08-2012, 11:39 AM
i know the budget was real tight last year, wonder if the same this year?
about the same. Again depends on who is traded, retires and what not, that can change it a bit.

thanks i assuming jacobs got likely manningham and osi as well

bansaw
02-08-2012, 11:44 AM
they won a Superbowl being here
I'm confident there will be many restructured contracts, we'll have room to keep this team tight

charles355
02-08-2012, 11:44 AM
2011 was the year to win it!

I'll explain why, CAP Hit for players on the team... then do the math

Eli Manning : 15 190 475

Antrel Rolle: 9 100 000

Chris Canty: 7 666 667

Chris Snee: 7 783 333

Justin Tuck: 7 500 000

Brandon Jacobs:6 862 500 (can be waived for no penalty though)

Corey Webster: 6 750 000

Michael Boley:5 650 000

Mathias Kiwanuka: 5 550 000

Davis Baas: 4 950 000

Osi Umenyiora: 4 617 857

David Diehl:3 825 000

Jason Pierre-Paul: 3 150 961

and on and on...

bansaw
02-08-2012, 11:45 AM
Philly showed what free agency can do
as did the raiders and Redskins before them

keep your own, easier to teach

tucksackstom
02-08-2012, 11:49 AM
i was curious at the cap space, giants will be a good team either way

charles355
02-08-2012, 11:50 AM
Antrel... way too pricey... but can't trade or cut him...

Canty same...

Snee has a down year... but hoping for the best

Jacobs won't play for 6.8M ... may re-sign cheaper or leaves

Baas... a little bit too pricey too

bansaw
02-08-2012, 11:53 AM
i was curious at the cap space, giants will be a good team either way
wait till March

sorry

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 11:54 AM
2011 was the year to win it! I'll explain why, CAP Hit for players on the team... then do the math Eli Manning : 15 190 475 Antrel Rolle: 9 100 000 Chris Canty: 7 666 667 Chris Snee: 7 783 333 Justin Tuck: 7 500 000 Brandon Jacobs:6 862 500 (can be waived for no penalty though) Corey Webster: 6 750 000 Michael Boley:5 650 000 Mathias Kiwanuka: 5 550 000 Davis Baas: 4 950 000 Osi Umenyiora: 4 617 857 David Diehl:3 825 000 Jason Pierre-Paul: 3 150 961 and on and on...</P>


Brutal. Just brutal.</P>


$9mm for Rolle, almost $8mm for Canty, $7mm for Jacobs?</P>


Why does this feel like we're Tampa Bay??????</P>

charles355
02-08-2012, 12:09 PM
In my mind... I want this to happen

re-sign Hynoski

Manningham for less than 3.0M a year or next man up (Devin Thomas or JJ or even Hixon)

Jacobs re-sign for less than 2.0M or we sign another RB or draft one round 4-5

Draft TE Round 1 or 2

LT Round 1 or 2 or Diehl
LG Petrus or Boothe
C Baas
RG Snee
RT Beatty or Diehl

OSi... trade for round 3 and 5
DT re-sign Bernard only if Austin is not ready

MLB re-sign Goff and Blackburn less than 2M each

OLB= SET

CB= re-sign TT only 2.5M max... Ross will cost too much

S= SET

K/P/LS
re-sign Weatherford then set

bansaw
02-08-2012, 12:17 PM
2011 was the year to win it! I'll explain why, CAP Hit for players on the team... then do the math Eli Manning : 15 190 475 Antrel Rolle: 9 100 000 Chris Canty: 7 666 667 Chris Snee: 7 783 333 Justin Tuck: 7 500 000 Brandon Jacobs:6 862 500 (can be waived for no penalty though) Corey Webster: 6 750 000 Michael Boley:5 650 000 Mathias Kiwanuka: 5 550 000 Davis Baas: 4 950 000 Osi Umenyiora: 4 617 857 David Diehl:3 825 000 Jason Pierre-Paul: 3 150 961 and on and on...</p>


Brutal. Just brutal.</p>


$9mm for Rolle, almost $8mm for Canty, $7mm for Jacobs?</p>


Why does this feel like we're Tampa Bay??????</p>all 3 will gladly renegotiate I will bet money

charles355
02-08-2012, 12:19 PM
I hope... but at the same time I don't want to throw even more money later to keep them now

barran21
02-08-2012, 12:22 PM
Philly showed what free agency can do
as did the raiders and Redskins before them

keep your own, easier to teach


I agree with this but when you have little cap room it's gonna be hard to keep your own and the future isn't bright with Tuck, Nicks and many more contract ending, and don't forget we have an angry OSI, keeping our own will be harder this year, plus Reese borrowed from the future cap, we won the SB at the right time...

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 12:24 PM
2011 was the year to win it! I'll explain why, CAP Hit for players on the team... then do the math Eli Manning : 15 190 475 Antrel Rolle: 9 100 000 Chris Canty: 7 666 667 Chris Snee: 7 783 333 Justin Tuck: 7 500 000 Brandon Jacobs:6 862 500 (can be waived for no penalty though) Corey Webster: 6 750 000 Michael Boley:5 650 000 Mathias Kiwanuka: 5 550 000 Davis Baas: 4 950 000 Osi Umenyiora: 4 617 857 David Diehl:3 825 000 Jason Pierre-Paul: 3 150 961 and on and on...</P>


Brutal. Just brutal.</P>


$9mm for Rolle, almost $8mm for Canty, $7mm for Jacobs?</P>


Why does this feel like we're Tampa Bay??????</P>


all 3 will gladly renegotiate I will bet money
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jeez i hope so.</P>


and i might take that bet.</P>

bansaw
02-08-2012, 12:26 PM
2011 was the year to win it! I'll explain why, CAP Hit for players on the team... then do the math Eli Manning : 15 190 475 Antrel Rolle: 9 100 000 Chris Canty: 7 666 667 Chris Snee: 7 783 333 Justin Tuck: 7 500 000 Brandon Jacobs:6 862 500 (can be waived for no penalty though) Corey Webster: 6 750 000 Michael Boley:5 650 000 Mathias Kiwanuka: 5 550 000 Davis Baas: 4 950 000 Osi Umenyiora: 4 617 857 David Diehl:3 825 000 Jason Pierre-Paul: 3 150 961 and on and on...</p>


Brutal. Just brutal.</p>


$9mm for Rolle, almost $8mm for Canty, $7mm for Jacobs?</p>


Why does this feel like we're Tampa Bay??????</p>


all 3 will gladly renegotiate I will bet money
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jeez i hope so.</p>


and i might take that bet.</p>Canty and Rolle for sure. They want to keep their media stuff going.
Jacobs loves the Giants

Mod_C
02-08-2012, 12:27 PM
The number of players on IR alone really makes the CAP more of an issue than it was when the season started. Reese has his work cut out for him. The last figure I saw during the season was $400,000.00.

Restructure and releases are going to be required to free up meaningful space.

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 12:28 PM
The number of players on IR alone really makes the CAP more of an issue than it was when the season started. Reese has his work cut out for him. The last figure I saw during the season was $400,000.00.

Restructure and releases are going to be required to free up meaningful space.
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and we're not talking about our ability to sign FAs.</P>


this is just retain what we already have and sign draft choices.</P>


good news is with guys coming off of IR, we probably improve without going to market.</P>

bansaw
02-08-2012, 12:30 PM
didnt you learn doubting Reese last year CDN [:O]


WOOOOOO

CDN_G-FAN
02-08-2012, 12:35 PM
didnt you learn doubting Reese last year CDN [:O]


WOOOOOO
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screw you bradshaw !!!!</P>


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This isn't doubt. This is worry.</P>


Last year was doubt. This year is worry.</P>


If you could add, you'd be worried too. [:O]</P>

bansaw
02-08-2012, 12:38 PM
didnt you learn doubting Reese last year CDN [:O]


WOOOOOO
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screw you bradshaw !!!!</p>


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This isn't doubt. This is worry.</p>


Last year was doubt. This year is worry.</p>


If you could add, you'd be worried too. [:O]</p>lol touche, you know numbers

charles355
02-08-2012, 12:40 PM
I can't wait for free agency... I don't want us to sign any outsider free agent except for less than 1.5M a year...

we should continue to draft well...

and no more Boley, Canty, Rolle signings in a single off season.. it hurts long time (we won with them sure... but you know what I mean)

raintheory
02-08-2012, 12:49 PM
is there an official site that states what MM, Osi, jacobs, any other free agent for that matter on this team wants or has asked for? you say osi said he wants top 5 DE money is there anything official that states he still feels this way after a super bowl win?

i mean you guys are saying he will cost this he will cost that and too much to keep i just want to know where your getting your numbers from, are you insiders on the business?

this organization is not stupid money wise they will retain the players of need regardless of cost or what we arm chair GMs think is their cost.
lets just wait to see whats their asking price and then you can bicker about who costs too much.

respectively
imho

charles355
02-08-2012, 12:52 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/

charles355
02-09-2012, 10:00 AM
bump

G-Man67
02-09-2012, 10:10 AM
like to see some guys restructure ... i mean Eli is worth even more than what he is being paid, but if he could help us a little for cap space that would be great ... Canty and Rolle are overpaid, but again big contributors ... sad to say, b/c Jacobs did restructure and he did play better at the end of the year, but if he can be released with no cap penalty, well i'm sorry, but you kinda have to do that



but to me, when you have a great QB, you also have the luxury of staying young ... i want to continue to build this team thru the draft and also thru undrafted free agents ... it's a young man's game

Medisleman
02-09-2012, 10:15 AM
I don't think Jacobs goes anywhere. Who would pay him at this point? His best years are behind him, but if we can get him on the cheap he is still a good guy to have on the team.

Manningham will have big offers, he will have to decide if he wants to be a Giant or go be number 1 somewhere else with less likelihood of winning.

Osi is Osi, he has another year, so I bet the Giants play hardball with him. I don't think he really wants to go anywhere else and start over now.

VelocityVirus
02-09-2012, 11:00 AM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html
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</p>

POSSIBLE BIG SPENDERS</p>


Teams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.</p>


Cincinnati Bengals $80,641,237</p>


Tennessee Titans $92,739,765</p>


Washington Redskins $94,351,284</p>


Kansas City Chiefs $95,844,195</p>


Tampa Bay Buccaneers $98,899,458</p>


Atlanta Falcons $100,227,174</p>


Denver Broncos $101,389,121</p>


New England Patriots $101,827,381</p>


Chicago Bears $101,887,741</p>


San Francisco 49ers $102,938,980</p>


Cleveland Browns $103,789,162</p>


WORKING ON A BUDGET</p>


Teams that aren’t up against the cap, but need to make smart moves to avoid trimming a ton of players and salaries.</p>


Jacksonville Jaguars $107,270,274</p>


Buffalo Bills $108,426,522</p>


Seattle Seahawks $111,742,430</p>


San Diego Chargers $111,960,165</p>


New Orleans Saints $113,358,069</p>


Philadelphia Eagles $113,964,694</p>


Baltimore Ravens $115,670,281</p>


Minnesota Vikings $116,078,422</p>


Houston Texans $116,306,676</p>


Miami Dolphins $116,636,173</p>


Indianapolis Colts $116,773,288</p>


Green Bay Packers $118,001,169</p>


Arizona Cardinals $118,787,639</p>


TIGHTENING THE BELT</p>


Teams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve
signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving
forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need
to be.</p>


St. Louis Rams $120,982,904</p>


Detroit Lions $122,760,121</p>


New York Giants $124,735,807</p>


New York Jets $128,092,733</p>


Dallas Cowboys $128,910,735</p>


Carolina Panthers $129,962,768</p>


Oakland Raiders $140,861,316</p>


Pittsburgh Steelers $149,885,537</p>

charles355
02-09-2012, 11:40 PM
brutal.... steelers are done btw

foosball
02-10-2012, 12:27 AM
2011 was the year to win it! I'll explain why, CAP Hit for players on the team... then do the math Eli Manning : 15 190 475 Antrel Rolle: 9 100 000 Chris Canty: 7 666 667 Chris Snee: 7 783 333 Justin Tuck: 7 500 000 Brandon Jacobs:6 862 500 (can be waived for no penalty though) Corey Webster: 6 750 000 Michael Boley:5 650 000 Mathias Kiwanuka: 5 550 000 Davis Baas: 4 950 000 Osi Umenyiora: 4 617 857 David Diehl:3 825 000 Jason Pierre-Paul: 3 150 961 and on and on...</p>


Brutal. Just brutal.</p>


$9mm for Rolle, almost $8mm for Canty, $7mm for Jacobs?</p>


Why does this feel like we're Tampa Bay??????</p>

It's not as bleak as you would think. Most of those contracts are either running out or in the last year within the next two years. And the guys coming up right now that will be requiring large contracts are still mostly on rookie deals. Giants are in good shape, they just can't do much cap wise. They also have to avoid dead money.

giantsfan420
02-10-2012, 02:29 AM
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/2012/02/nfl-salary-cap-projections-for-2012-season.html
</p>


</p>

POSSIBLE BIG SPENDERS</p>


Teams that have the cap space to make big moves in free agency.</p>


Cincinnati Bengals*********** $80,641,237</p>


Tennessee Titans************ $92,739,765</p>


Washington Redskins**** $94,351,284</p>


Kansas City Chiefs*********** $95,844,195</p>


Tampa Bay Buccaneers* $98,899,458</p>


Atlanta Falcons**************** $100,227,174</p>


Denver Broncos * * * * * * * *$101,389,121</p>


New England Patriots**** $101,827,381</p>


Chicago Bears******************* $101,887,741</p>


San Francisco 49ers******** $102,938,980</p>


Cleveland Browns*********** $103,789,162</p>


WORKING ON A BUDGET</p>


Teams that aren’t up against the cap, but need to make smart moves to avoid trimming a ton of players and salaries.</p>


Jacksonville Jaguars******* $107,270,274</p>


Buffalo Bills************************ $108,426,522</p>


Seattle Seahawks* * * * * * * $111,742,430</p>


San Diego Chargers******** $111,960,165</p>


New Orleans Saints******** $113,358,069</p>


Philadelphia Eagles********* $113,964,694</p>


Baltimore Ravens************ $115,670,281</p>


Minnesota Vikings********** $116,078,422</p>


Houston Texans * * * * * * * * $116,306,676</p>


Miami Dolphins**************** $116,636,173</p>


Indianapolis Colts************ $116,773,288</p>


Green Bay Packers * * * * * *$118,001,169</p>


Arizona Cardinals************ $118,787,639</p>


TIGHTENING THE BELT</p>


Teams that will be at, or over the projected salary cap once they’ve
signed the rookie class. These teams must purge their roster moving
forward. The higher the cap number, the more drastic the cut backs need
to be.</p>


St. Louis Rams****************** $120,982,904</p>


Detroit Lions********************* $122,760,121</p>


New York Giants************* $124,735,807</p>


New York Jets** *************** $128,092,733</p>


Dallas Cowboys**************** $128,910,735</p>


Carolina Panthers*********** $129,962,768</p>


Oakland Raiders************** $140,861,316</p>


Pittsburgh Steelers******** $149,885,537</p>

nice. its not nearly as bad as some believe. we won't be able to make any big time aquisitions but we'll be able to re-sign most our guys and the draft picks.

we'll prob have to lose a few role players but nothing major, i'd assume the starting line up from the playoffs will be real close to our starters next season

JMFP2
02-10-2012, 02:54 AM
they won a Superbowl being here
I'm confident there will be many restructured contracts, we'll have room to keep this team tight

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I agree.</P>


Granted, there are going to be some "Boss" defections. Teams around the league are bound to throw around some stupid money, and I couldn't blame a guy for leaving.</P>


On the flip side, the Giants are going to be very attractive to some great free agents who want to join a champion.</P>