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jhamburg
02-08-2012, 12:45 PM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!

MikeIsaGiant
02-08-2012, 01:09 PM
That's right

SweetZombieJesus
02-08-2012, 02:23 PM
They're going to be soooo deflated when they get matched and surpassed. That's all they have left to hold on to.

THE_New_York_Giants
02-08-2012, 02:26 PM
Then they'll say "well we still have more appearances" to which I'll say "did you win them?"

SweetZombieJesus
02-08-2012, 04:08 PM
Then they'll say "well we still have more appearances" to which I'll say "did you win them?"

Even then, we've got them. Here's how.

They have 8 SB appearances, yes. But the team was around since 1960 and eligible to play for those NFL championships from 1960-1965 even though they never made it.

The Giants went to NFL Championship games in 1961, 1962, and 1963.

So in the time both teams have been around, they've both played in title games 8 times.

By winning SB #5 that would also be title game appearance #9.

Checkmate.

BlueBeast84
02-08-2012, 06:25 PM
Then they'll say "well we still have more appearances" to which I'll say "did you win them?"

Even then, we've got them. Here's how.

They have 8 SB appearances, yes. But the team was around since 1960 and eligible to play for those NFL championships from 1960-1965 even though they never made it.

The Giants went to NFL Championship games in 1961, 1962, and 1963.

So in the time both teams have been around, they've both played in title games 8 times.

By winning SB #5 that would also be title game appearance #9.

Checkmate.


They played in the NFL Championship Game in 1966 and 1967 but lost to the Green Bay Packers so we would still be behind by one.

jhamburg
02-08-2012, 06:30 PM
Then they'll say "well we still have more appearances" to which I'll say "did you win them?"

Even then, we've got them.* Here's how.

They have 8 SB appearances, yes.* But the team was around since 1960 and eligible to play for those NFL championships from 1960-1965 even though they never made it.

The Giants went to NFL Championship games in 1961, 1962, and 1963.*

So in the time both teams have been around, they've both played in title games 8 times.

By winning SB #5 that would also be title game appearance #9.

Checkmate.


They played in the NFL Championship Game in 1966 and 1967 but lost to the Green Bay Packers so we would still be behind by one.


Yeah...but nobody cares about going to championship games and losing.

BlueBeast84
02-08-2012, 06:33 PM
Then they'll say "well we still have more appearances" to which I'll say "did you win them?"

Even then, we've got them. Here's how.

They have 8 SB appearances, yes. But the team was around since 1960 and eligible to play for those NFL championships from 1960-1965 even though they never made it.

The Giants went to NFL Championship games in 1961, 1962, and 1963.

So in the time both teams have been around, they've both played in title games 8 times.

By winning SB #5 that would also be title game appearance #9.

Checkmate.


They played in the NFL Championship Game in 1966 and 1967 but lost to the Green Bay Packers so we would still be behind by one.


Yeah...but nobody cares about going to championship games and losing.

I don't really care ether but they are the ones bringing up championship appearances between 1960-Present. How I see it is they got five and we got four, soon to be five.

TheBookOfEli
02-09-2012, 05:05 AM
I love the fact that we moved up on the Redskins in the Superbowl win count.

Oh and the gap between us and the eagles is just getting bigger lol.

If we get 5 next year or in the next few years? That would be the cherry on top.

SweetZombieJesus
02-09-2012, 07:36 AM
They played in the NFL Championship Game in 1966 and 1967 but lost to the Green Bay Packers so we would still be behind by one.


1966 is the first year of the Super Bowl being played (the first two were called the AFL-NFL championship game) so the NFL Championship Game was no longer the "final" title game at that point. Even though it was still being called the NFL championship until the merger was completed in 1970, it functionally became the NFC Championship that year.

BigBlueFanNJ
02-09-2012, 08:08 AM
The pressure on Romo next year is going to be enormous gonna be fun watching him choke!!

CTLadyBlue
02-09-2012, 10:15 AM
Then they'll say "well we still have more appearances" to which I'll say "did you win them?"

+1. Bills have as many 'appearances' as we have 'wins', but that don't put them in the same category.

PhilaGiant83
02-09-2012, 11:31 AM
We will get number 5, and POSSIBLY number 6 in the next couple of years.

flamethrower
02-09-2012, 06:47 PM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.

flamethrower
02-09-2012, 06:53 PM
I love the fact that we moved up on the Redskins in the Superbowl win count.

Oh and the gap between us and the eagles is just getting bigger lol.

If we get 5 next year or in the next few years? That would be the cherry on top. You already have been there and devoured that cherry. The NFL Goes all the way back to the Early 1920's
Remember folks the 1994 season was the 75th anniversary season. Not the 25th. All teams that were playing that year wore Diamond patches celebrating that, and all teams wore throwback uniforms.

NFC East Division League championships.
Giants have 8 the most. You got #5 back in 1986.
Redskins got to #5 first of the teams that are at 5.
Eagles have 3.
Cowboys also have 5.

jhamburg
02-09-2012, 07:52 PM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.


The problem is if we say that then that means the Eagles have won something.

pino
02-09-2012, 09:11 PM
Soon they will have nothing to hang their silly little hats on.

:D

flamethrower
02-10-2012, 12:01 AM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.


The problem is if we say that then that means the Eagles have won something.
Your logic is flawed. Because I would expect a Cowturd fan to say this. Not a Giants fan. Show that you actually respect the true history of the NFL. Because most Cowturd fans don't. They think that the NFL didn't have a championship prior to 1966. And, when they get proven wrong. They then state. "Only Super Bowls count".

jhamburg
02-10-2012, 12:17 AM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.


The problem is if we say that then that means the Eagles have won something.
Your logic is flawed. Because I would expect a Cowturd fan to say this. Not a Giants fan. Show that you actually respect the true history of the NFL. Because most Cowturd fans don't. They think that the NFL didn't have a championship prior to 1966. And, when they get proven wrong. They then state. "Only Super Bowls count".


Dude calm down, it's a joke

SweetZombieJesus
02-10-2012, 12:48 AM
They also love to think their 8 appearances are the most, but they are in fact tied with the Giants (61, 62, 63, 86, 90, 00, 07, 11), Packers (61, 62, 65, 66, 67, 96, 97, 10), and Steelers (74, 75, 78, 79, 95, 05, 08, 10) for 8 appearances since the Cowboys came into the league in 1960. And the Patriots have 7 appearances (85, 96, 01, 03, 04, 07, 11).

BlueBeast84
02-10-2012, 12:52 AM
They played in the NFL Championship Game in 1966 and 1967 but lost to the Green Bay Packers so we would still be behind by one.


1966 is the first year of the Super Bowl being played (the first two were called the AFL-NFL championship game) so the NFL Championship Game was no longer the "final" title game at that point. Even though it was still being called the NFL championship until the merger was completed in 1970, it functionally became the NFC Championship that year.


True. Anyways, It doesn't really matter we will surpass the Dallas Cowboys in the next few seasons.

TheBookOfEli
02-10-2012, 05:12 AM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.


The problem is if we say that then that means the Eagles have won something.

Yes!

Although we do technically have 8 total, let's talk about the Superbowl era just for the sake of the Eagles franchise lol.

SweetZombieJesus
02-10-2012, 02:35 PM
Your logic is flawed. Because I would expect a Cowturd fan to say this. Not a Giants fan. Show that you actually respect the true history of the NFL. Because most Cowturd fans don't. They think that the NFL didn't have a championship prior to 1966. And, when they get proven wrong. They then state. "Only Super Bowls count".


I'm glad to see this nonsense of the world beginning in 1966 is starting to fall away and they're slowly reminding people of the old NFL championships.

I'm all about honoring the legacy, and really if you play this game, then which titles do we throw out in MLB, NBA, and NHL?

But yeah in the Eagles case, and for beating the Cowboys on their own terms, I'm all for it ;)

flamethrower
02-10-2012, 09:30 PM
Your logic is flawed. Because I would expect a Cowturd fan to say this. Not a Giants fan. Show that you actually respect the true history of the NFL. Because most Cowturd fans don't. They think that the NFL didn't have a championship prior to 1966. And, when they get proven wrong. They then state. "Only Super Bowls count".


I'm glad to see this nonsense of the world beginning in 1966 is starting to fall away and they're slowly reminding people of the old NFL championships.

I'm all about honoring the legacy, and really if you play this game, then which titles do we throw out in MLB, NBA, and NHL?

But yeah in the Eagles case, and for beating the Cowboys on their own terms, I'm all for it ;)

1 more little detail Steelers also have 0 Championships prior to the Super Bowl. In fact until Super Bowl 9 their Championship win total was 0.
Here's a good one for the Redskins fans that might be lurking here. Remember the 1940 NFL Championship game Bears 73- Redskins 0. No that ain't a typo. The most lopsided score in NFL history.

SweetZombieJesus
02-11-2012, 02:35 PM
1 more little detail Steelers also have 0 Championships prior to the Super Bowl. In fact until Super Bowl 9 their Championship win total was 0.


It's worse than that. From their founding in 1933 through 1973, they didn't even make the playoffs once. NOT A SINGLE TIME.

Technically there was a play-in game in the 40s where the standings were even at the end of the regular season and they played the game to see who would make the playoffs, and they lost that too.

The Steelers were one of the worst franchises in the NFL for their first 40 years. They also merged with the Eagles during WW II and the Philly-Pitt Steagles due to player shortages.

Voldamort
02-11-2012, 02:44 PM
BACK TO BACK BABY ALL IN!!!

flamethrower
02-11-2012, 04:17 PM
BACK TO BACK BABY ALL IN!!!
That's the spirit. Just be careful. The Cowboys, and Vikings fans have paper trophy parades every season. Cowboys since 1997, and Vikings since 1961. Last thing we want is the Giants fan base to think that a paper trophy is just as good as a real one.

flamethrower
02-11-2012, 04:18 PM
1 more little detail Steelers also have 0 Championships prior to the Super Bowl. In fact until Super Bowl 9 their Championship win total was 0.


It's worse than that. From their founding in 1933 through 1973, they didn't even make the playoffs once. NOT A SINGLE TIME.

Technically there was a play-in game in the 40s where the standings were even at the end of the regular season and they played the game to see who would make the playoffs, and they lost that too.

The Steelers were one of the worst franchises in the NFL for their first 40 years. They also merged with the Eagles during WW II and the Philly-Pitt Steagles due to player shortages.

That was the game that they debuted their black helmets also. And also the Steelers merged with the Cardinals also. They were officially called the Card-Pitt. s

rainierjef
02-12-2012, 01:53 AM
BACK TO BACK BABY ALL IN!!!
That's the spirit. Just be careful. The Cowboys, and Vikings fans have paper trophy parades every season. Cowboys since 1997, and Vikings since 1961. Last thing we want is the Giants fan base to think that a paper trophy is just as good as a real one.


i like you... no homo

flamethrower
02-13-2012, 09:38 AM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.


The problem is if we say that then that means the Eagles have won something.
Your logic is flawed. Because I would expect a Cowturd fan to say this. Not a Giants fan. Show that you actually respect the true history of the NFL. Because most Cowturd fans don't. They think that the NFL didn't have a championship prior to 1966. And, when they get proven wrong. They then state. "Only Super Bowls count".


Dude calm down, it's a joke
I took it as a Joke. I was just replying the truth. Also I just changed the title to show the Truth. Cowboys stadium is not located in the City of Dallas, nor can you see the city of Dallas from it. I feel, and have always felt that the City that you play in is what you should be named. Giants stadium new one I assume has the exact same view of New York City that the old one had.
But, I never refer to them as New York. I call them New Jersey. Same for the Jets.

jhamburg
02-13-2012, 11:00 AM
That's right, make some room cause we're coming for #5!
Giants were coming for #5 back in 1986. They have 8 NFL championships. The only 4 Super Bowls that were not that were numbers 1-4. Since then. The Super Bowl has been the NFL Championship game. Now unless I have been counting wrong all my life. 8 is a bigger number than 5. I would expect a Cowboys fan to say this drivel. Not a Giants fan.
Only the Bears, and Packers have more than the Giants. Bears 9. Packers 13.


The problem is if we say that then that means the Eagles have won something.
Your logic is flawed. Because I would expect a Cowturd fan to say this. Not a Giants fan. Show that you actually respect the true history of the NFL. Because most Cowturd fans don't. They think that the NFL didn't have a championship prior to 1966. And, when they get proven wrong. They then state. "Only Super Bowls count".


Dude calm down, it's a joke
I took it as a Joke. I was just replying the truth. Also I just changed the title to show the Truth. Cowboys stadium is not located in the City of Dallas, nor can you see the city of Dallas from it. I feel, and have always felt that the City that you play in is what you should be named. Giants stadium new one I assume has the exact same view of New York City that the old one had.
But, I never refer to them as New York. I call them New Jersey. Same for the Jets.


Those teams are named after New York City, not state, so it would make more sense to call them the East Rutherford Giants if you were gonna do that, but I think it would get pretty annoying since prob half the teams in the NFL play outside of the city proper.

Cowboys Fan From Asia
02-13-2012, 08:05 PM
They're going to be soooo deflated when they get matched and surpassed. That's all they have left to hold on to.


Let me point out that being in the lead (in Lombardis) has been an anomaly for the Cowboys, rather than the norm.


Only 13 out of the Cowboys' 51 seasons have been spent tied for the lead in Super Bowl titles (with five.)


The Redskins had more Lombardis than Dallas (for one year only, 1992) at one point. The Steelers and 49ers had four apiece when Dallas had only two in the 1980s.

NYCDBS
02-13-2012, 11:25 PM
I'm just happy we got to number 4!!! That's an incredible achievement for this franchise especially considering how terrible we were during those years when our rivals were prospering... The silver lining this year for me though was finally getting back to spanking San Fran in the playoffs... Even during their dynasty years the Great Montana always got Owned by the Giants!!!!

SweetZombieJesus
02-14-2012, 08:00 AM
They're going to be soooo deflated when they get matched and surpassed. That's all they have left to hold on to.


Let me point out that being in the lead (in Lombardis) has been an anomaly for the Cowboys, rather than the norm.


Only 13 out of the Cowboys' 51 seasons have been spent tied for the lead in Super Bowl titles (with five.)


The Redskins had more Lombardis than Dallas (for one year only, 1992) at one point. The Steelers and 49ers had four apiece when Dallas had only two in the 1980s.


So all this talk about "deflated" is a bit hyperbole because it's not like the Cowboys are the Yankees who have just about always had a big lead on every other team in championships won.


OK, probably not for the die hards like you; but for the Jimmy Johnson bandwagon fans who couldn't name an offensive lineman.

Although I do recall before the Jimmy Johnson run a lot of talk about Landry's winning record and 5 Super Bowl apperances.

Cowboys Fan From Asia
02-14-2012, 11:55 PM
I think a team is a dynasty when it wins 3 Super Bowls within the span of a decade. I got to say, if the Giants win another Super Bowl, it would be perhaps the strangest dynasty in NFL history, what with two of the Lombardies coming from 10-6 and 9-7 seasons.

NYG4ME
02-15-2012, 09:27 AM
I think a team is a dynasty when it wins 3 Super Bowls within the span of a decade. I got to say, if the Giants win another Super Bowl, it would be perhaps the strangest dynasty in NFL history, what with two of the Lombardies coming from 10-6 and 9-7 seasons.


Strange? Why? Because we weren't the darlings in the media's eyes before the season started? Its not how you start, its how you finish. I know you've been on this board for quite some time, but that's a foolish thing to say.

jhamburg
02-15-2012, 10:54 AM
I think a team is a dynasty when it wins 3 Super Bowls within the span of a decade. I got to say, if the Giants win another Super Bowl, it would be perhaps the strangest dynasty in NFL history, what with two of the Lombardies coming from 10-6 and 9-7 seasons.


I agree with you there, but that's just who this team is.

Cowboys Fan From Asia
02-15-2012, 07:11 PM
I think a team is a dynasty when it wins 3 Super Bowls within the span of a decade. I got to say, if the Giants win another Super Bowl, it would be perhaps the strangest dynasty in NFL history, what with two of the Lombardies coming from 10-6 and 9-7 seasons.


Strange? Why? Because we weren't the darlings in the media's eyes before the season started? Its not how you start, its how you finish. I know you've been on this board for quite some time, but that's a foolish thing to say.








I didn't mean "strange" in a bad way. I simply meant that it would be an oddity - in the interesting sense. The NFL's dynasties, up to date - Steelers-49ers-Cowboys-Patriots - typically came in the form of 12-4, 13-3 and 14-2 dominant teams that held top seeding in their conference en route to the Lombardi.

The Giants struck gold twice from very long distance, going all the way from bottom-tier wild card seed with low 10-6 and 9-7 seasons to the Super Bowl.

scoopscj
02-15-2012, 11:00 PM
That's a fair point.

I think the NFL is a difficult place to win these days with the skill level so close to one another. The good, great, and elite teams are separated by very little and a mistake or two can and usually is the difference between winning and losing.

The Giants may or may not win another in the near future but as long as they are competitive and get in the playoffs a few times, I'll be happy.


Scoops

SweetZombieJesus
02-16-2012, 08:26 AM
^ I forget who said it but one of the big commentators said that the difference between a #1 seed and a #6 seed in today's NFL isn't that great, everybody is flawed. This isn't the 80's/90's where teams had almost no flaws and were held together for years and had 12 or more wins every season.

Also the fates of the #1/#2 seeds has not been good in the last 5 years or so.

It's not just the Giants -- the Steelers and Packers got through as 5 or 6 seeds too.

Which does make what Belichick has done in NE all the more remarkable.

jhamburg
02-16-2012, 10:45 AM
^ I forget who said it but one of the big commentators said that the difference between a #1 seed and a #6 seed in today's NFL isn't that great, everybody is flawed.* This isn't the 80's/90's where teams had almost no flaws and were held together for years and had 12 or more wins every season.

Also the fates of the #1/#2 seeds has not been good in the last 5 years or so.*

It's not just the Giants -- the Steelers and Packers got through as 5 or 6 seeds too.

Which does make what Belichick has done in NE all the more remarkable.*


The top seeds don't have a huge skill advantage so much as the bye and home field advantage. It makes it a lot easier for teams that play really well at home like NE and NO to get in.