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Kruunch
02-15-2012, 11:43 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1630286/zebrie-sanders

Would this guy make the most sense as our first pick?

OLT/ORT prospect ... has played both (started more OLT) and doesn't seem to have a problem switching sides (and arguably better on the right side).

Late first / early second grade.

No injury history at all (very sturdy guy).

Matches a serious need but possibly not the BPA overall (but most likely will be BPA at his position) when we pick.

Might be a year away from being a starting ORT in the NFL though.

Thoughts?

critters
02-15-2012, 11:58 AM
I'm not really a big fan of his. With the last pick in the 2nd round maybe but definitely not the first pick. I wasn't much of a fan before the senior bowl, but after hearing that he got dominated over and over day after day, he really dropped off my radar. He has potential though and he could easily add more size.

giantman8493
02-15-2012, 12:09 PM
I love him and hope he is a first round draft pick. the problem is he will always be known for that misunderstanding on come on man...... he did what his coach trained him to do. very disiplined player who i would love to have.

Kruunch
02-15-2012, 12:13 PM
I'm not really a big fan of his. With the last pick in the 2nd round maybe but definitely not the first pick. I wasn't much of a fan before the senior bowl, but after hearing that he got dominated over and over day after day, he really dropped off my radar. He has potential though and he could easily add more size.


Hmmmm true but I'm not sure one bad outting should disqualify an excellent 4 season run at Florida.

I could see waiting to see if he slipped to us in the second and I agree that his Senior Bowl outting wasn't impressive.

Thanks for the heads up!

heavyhitter
02-15-2012, 09:31 PM
<font size="2">I'm not feeling the 1st round love for Zebrie Sanders. I can see why scouts like the guy, but Sanders at 32 overall would be a reach. </font>

gmen0820
02-15-2012, 09:33 PM
2nd round, yes.

allentown PA
02-15-2012, 09:39 PM
2nd round, yes.

the thing is our pick is basically a 2nd round pick....so when u say 2nd its different than years past.

heavyhitter
02-15-2012, 09:45 PM
2nd round, yes.

the thing is our pick is basically a 2nd round pick....so when u say 2nd its different than years past.<font size="2">I'd take Zebrie Sanders at 64 overall, but definitely not 32 overall. Seen the guy play plenty of times, and 32 would be a reach for sure. FSU is my team, but Zebrie was a walking penalty at FSU. He's worth a mid-late 2nd though and I can see what scouts do like in him.</font>

allentown PA
02-15-2012, 09:46 PM
2nd round, yes.

the thing is our pick is basically a 2nd round pick....so when u say 2nd its different than years past.<font size="2">I'd take Zebrie Sanders at 64 overall, but definitely not 32 overall. Seen the guy play plenty of times, and 32 would be a reach for sure. FSU is my team, but Zebrie was a walking penalty at FSU. He's worth a mid-late 2nd though and I can see what scouts do like in him.</font>


good stuff..ill take ur word if FSU is ur team.

XxBigWhitxX
02-15-2012, 10:03 PM
He's too finesse for my liking. he reminds me of Beatty. We need maulers on our line. Gimmie Adams or Matin or Reiff

Kruunch
02-16-2012, 09:03 AM
He's too finesse for my liking. he reminds me of Beatty. We need maulers on our line. Gimmie Adams or Matin or Reiff

I was kind of thinking this too the more I see of Sanders.

Neverend
02-16-2012, 09:11 AM
Yeah, kind of reminds me of Beatty earlier in his career as well. He gets rag dolled against any kind of power. Is it because he's a fineese player or just that he needs to get stronger? Tyron Smith was a guy who was physical but looked fineese because of his weight. I hope Sanders is that same type of guy

But he's much, much better than Beatty coming out from a technique standpoint. Really his ONLY flaw is his upper body strength. In all other facets of the game he shows great talent and upside. Definitely someone I wouldn't mind the giants drafting and developing.

Unfortunately I think Reese is satisfied with Diehl, Brewer, and Beatty as the tackles.

BlueSanta
02-17-2012, 04:41 PM
I am not a fan of Sanders for a couple reasons.

1) His experience at LT is because of the injury to Andrew Datko causing Zebrie to be shifted over to LT. Sanders was the 2nd best tackle on this team prior to that injury. All of FSU's o-line struggled this year after Datko's injury. I would even argue that Bobby Hart FSU's true freshamn who was 16 at the start of the 2011 season outplayed Sanders. I was never once impressed with Sander's play. The entire FSU oline was a disaster this year.

2) Word out of the senior bowl practice was that he got schooled for much of the practice week and spent a lot of time angry over the fact that they had him largely practicing on the right side, rather than the left. Likely, because the money is bigger for LT's than RT's but again, he was a RT by trade until Datko fell. He was seen at one point arguing with his agent after Quinton Coples made easy work of him....again.

3) I am an FSU alum. I worked in Tallahassee for a few years and have more than a few friends close to that program. Yet, odly enough aside from praise of Sander's fitness, I do not hear much praise. The fitness is explained more by Rick Trickett(FSU's oline coach) than anything since rick puts all olineman on a strict diet and workout regime the day they step on campus. Last year, I was very high on Rodney Hudson because the praise coming from the program was just THAT resounding, on top of his stellar college career. I hear almost none of that this year. Rick Trickett is a brilliant Oline coach. Last year, Rick's praise of Hudson was resounding, where is it this year about Sanders?

4) I do not think Sanders is smart, and Olineman have to be intelligent. Blocking schemes are much more complicated than people realize and its long been said the smartest group of players on any good football team are the Olineman. As evidence of Zebries questionable intelligence, I give you <u>this link</u>. (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Video-Florida-State-s-Zebrie-Sanders-redefines-?urn=ncaaf,206179) Granted it was a couple years ago, but still that clip says a lot to me.


I always wish FSU grads well, but this kid isnt for me, especially if he thinks he is going to be a LT. I wouldnt look his way until the 2nd or 3rd rounds, and I am not sure even about a 2nd rounder.

Kruunch
02-17-2012, 04:45 PM
I am not a fan of Sanders for a couple reasons.

1) His experience at LT is because of the injury to Andrew Datko causing Zebrie to be shifted over to LT. Sanders was the 2nd best tackle on this team prior to that injury. All of FSU's o-line struggled this year after Datko's injury. I would even argue that Bobby Hart FSU's true freshamn who was 16 at the start of the 2011 season outplayed Sanders. I was never once impressed with Sander's play. The entire FSU oline was a disaster this year.

2) Word out of the senior bowl practice was that he got schooled for much of the practice week and spent a lot of time angry over the fact that they had him largely practicing on the right side, rather than the left. Likely, because the money is bigger for LT's than RT's but again, he was a RT by trade until Datko fell. He was seen at one point arguing with his agent after Quinton Coples made easy work of him....again.

3) I am an FSU alum. I worked in Tallahassee for a few years and have more than a few friends close to that program. Yet, odly enough aside from praise of Sander's fitness, I do not hear much praise. The fitness is explained more by Rick Trickett(FSU's oline coach) than anything since rick puts all olineman on a strict diet and workout regime the day they step on campus. Last year, I was very high on Rodney Hudson because the praise coming from the program was just THAT resounding, on top of his stellar college career.* I hear almost none of that this year. Rick Trickett is a brilliant Oline coach. Last year, Rick's praise of Hudson was resounding, where is it this year about Sanders?

4) I do not think Sanders is smart, and Olineman have to be intelligent. Blocking schemes are much more complicated than people realize and its long been said the smartest group of players on any good football team are the Olineman. As evidence of Zebries questionable intelligence, I give you <u>this link</u>. (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Video-Florida-State-s-Zebrie-Sanders-redefines-?urn=ncaaf,206179) Granted it was a couple years ago, but still that clip says a lot to me.


I always wish FSU grads well, but this kid isnt for me, especially if he thinks he is going to be a LT. I would look his way until the 2nd or 3rd rounds.



I was thinking of him more as a replacement for KM at RT.

But I hear a lot of things similar to what you're saying more and more.

Ah well.

bLuereverie
02-17-2012, 05:54 PM
I would give my left kidney to be in the interviews when he is explaining this to team scouts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV448r5f2qI

juice33s
02-17-2012, 06:31 PM
Reminds me of Kevin Boothe, not necessarily a bad thing, just not worth a 1st round pick imo......1st rounders should be impact players, this guy is not an impact player.

Also, from what I've heard he struggled a bit at the senior bowl being exposed by guys like Coples and Upshaw....I don't think many people view him as a 1st rounder anymore