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RoanokeFan
02-20-2012, 09:36 PM
BILL PARCELLS NEARLY TRADED PHIL SIMMS EARLY IN HIS NY GIANTS' CAREER (http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/20/bill-parcells-nearly-traded-phil-simms-early-in-his-new-york-giants-career/)

"What would <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Phil Simms" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/phil-simms/" rel="tag nofollow">Phil
Simms</a> have been without the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a>? What would the <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with New York Giants" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york-giants/" rel="tag nofollow">New York
Giants</a> have been without <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Phil Simms" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/phil-simms/" rel="tag nofollow">Phil
Simms</a>? It's a scenario that was much closer to reality (http://www.giantsfootballblog.com/2012/02/20/simms-reveals-he-wanted-to-be-traded/) than many people realize.



While appearing at the Long Island Association’s 2012 annual luncheon in
Westbury, New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
last Wednesday, former quarterback <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Phil Simms" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/phil-simms/" rel="tag nofollow">Phil
Simms</a> detailed a rough start in the relationship between he and then-head
coach <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Bill Parcells" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/bill-parcells/" rel="tag nofollow">Bill
Parcells</a>.</p>
<blockquote>


"I always thought [my full name] was Effing Simms," he recalled. "I used to
have to check my birth certificate and make sure my name started with a ‘P’ and
not and ‘F.’ And, if I did well, it was just ‘Hey, boy’ or something like
that.”</p></blockquote>


After being benched early in his career, he had had enough. Simms demanded a
trade from New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/); a
trade request Parcells was all to happy to grant.</p>
<blockquote>


“People would tell me, ‘Hey, you hung in there.’ I was like, ‘What else was I
going to do?’ Before that, I told Parcells, ‘Trade me now!’ He tried, but the
organization wouldn’t let him," Simms said.</p></blockquote>


With the storybook already closed, we know how that fairytale ended. Simms
wasn't traded and he spent the entire duration of his 14-year NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) career with
Big Blue. He'd eventually become the Giants' all-time leading passer, and would
retire with two Super Bowl championships and one Super Bowl MVP award.</p>


It's one of the best trades that never happened."</p>

GmenFan1980
02-20-2012, 09:41 PM
If the organization didn't let him then it wasn't close was it http://boards.giants.com/emoticons/emotion-7.gif lol

davecrazy
02-20-2012, 11:20 PM
We could of grabbed Marino in 1983.

JJC7301
02-21-2012, 12:01 AM
I didn't read the article, but I remember that Parcells wanted to stick with Brunner. Thank God that didn't work out.

ebick
02-21-2012, 12:14 AM
Simms demanded a trade from New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/); a trade request Parcells was all to happy to grant</P>



Parcells wanted to stick with Brunner</P>


Maybe now we know why he didn't get voted into the hall...lol</P>

foosball
02-21-2012, 12:57 AM
I've heard Phil talk about that in an interview before, I think it was in the 86 edition of Americas game. It happened at the start of Parcell's first year as head coach. He sat Phil down and basically just told him Scott Brunner was the starting QB, and Phil asked for a trade. Parcells tried to grant his request but it never happened. After the team STUNK that year and Parcells almost got fired he decided to shake things up, cut half the team and brought in the first wave of "Parcells" guys which lead to a playoff berth in 1984. Phil came back that year and threw for 4,000 yards. You have to understand from 1979-1982 Simms was injured all the time. He couldn't be counted on. Nobody could have known he was going to be an ironman from 1984 until he broke his foot in 1990.

It sure did drive Jeff Hostetler nuts lol.

Giants10Joe
02-21-2012, 01:13 AM
Does anybody know what teams the Giants were talking to in regards to trading Simms? What players/picks would we have gotten?

foosball
02-21-2012, 01:17 AM
There were not any teams. George Young wouldn't trade him. In those days George Young had final say in all football decisions.

Firenugget
02-21-2012, 07:24 AM
We could of grabbed Marino in 1983.


We could have drafted him regardless. We drafted Terry Kinard instead. [:P]
We passed up Darrell Green too.

nygsb42champs
02-21-2012, 09:05 AM
Thank goodness the organization would not let him.