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RoanokeFan
02-21-2012, 05:12 PM
AN EARLY LOOK AT THE GIANTS' NFL DRAFT STRATEGY: WR A POSSIBILITY? (http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/21/an-early-look-at-the-new-york-giants-nfl-draft-strategy-wide-receiver-a-possibility/)

"Under general manager Jerry Reese, the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants have made headlines selecting the best
available player on their board. The most famous of the bunch was defensive end
Jason Pierre- Paul, who, upon being selected would have been the 4th defensive
end in the rotation.


Ultimately, with his high draft picks Jerry Reese searches for the player who
will provide the biggest impact on the roster.</p>



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">Nebraska's cornerback Prince Amukamara, center,
number nineteen overall pick, is surrouded by family members after being
selected by the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants during round one of the 2011 NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) Draft Pick
at Radio City Music Hall on April 28, 2011 in New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) City. UPI/Monika Graff</div>
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The Giants have needs at several spots including offensive line, tight end,
and possibly running back and safety.</p>


The fact of the matter is, Reese won't reach for a player at any of those
spots. Tight ends and running backs can be found in most any round.</p>


The most interesting position to keep an eye on at the combine this week and
throughout the draft process is none other than wide receiver.</p>


We all know the situation with <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Mario Manningham" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/mario-manningham/" rel="tag nofollow">Mario
Manningham</a>. He is a legitimate deep threat in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) and in a
league where a premium value is placed on big plays, Manningham will not slip
under anyone's radar. With franchise tags or extensions likely for Mike Wallace,
Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson, and Reggie Wayne, Manninghammight just be the
best option available on the wide receiver market.</p>


The draft is a totally separate story.</p>


At first glance, it looks silly to lose a player in free agency and then
"waste" a first round pick on a player at his position.</p>


At second glance, the wide receiver class in 2012 is extremely deep. Factor
in the notion that the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) has become severely pass- oriented, that big plays
drive the Giants offense, and that Hakeem Nicks has missed time in his first 3
seasons, the Giants could be staring at the very realistic possibility that two-
thirds of their dynamic passing trio from 2011 would not be available for
franchise quarterback Eli Manning.</p>


Manning is in his prime and he proved in 2011 that with the proper weapons at
his disposal, he can dictate games against any defense in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) and gives
the Giants a great chance to win any game they play.</p>


The Giants can not afford to waste that.</p>


Alshon Jeffery and Reuben Randle are two names that come to mind when
discussing wide receivers in the later rounds. Both stand at 6'4" and possess
the ability to run the entire route tree. Their incredible size and ability to
snatch the ball out of the air in double coverage is intriguing for an offense
in New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
that has not had a true size threat since Plaxico Burress.</p>


Both players dominated the best conference in the nation and would be getting
an absolute ton of press in any draft that did not include Justin Blackmon.</p>


In 2010 with South Carolina, Jeffery beat the #1 team in the nation in
Alabama almost single handedly. He had 7 catches for 127 yards and two
touchdowns in what stands as one of the most dominant receiving performances in
the SEC in recent history.</p>


He is also nearly 230 pounds.</p>


Randle averaged over 20 yards per reception in 6 of LSU's 13 games this past
season. Again, this is in the SEC, the top conference in college football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/).</p>


Both players seem to fit the Giants profile in terms of draft picks.</p>


First off, they are physical freaks with huge potential in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/). Secondly,
they were productive. Thirdly, they played against high levels of
competition.</p>


There is another very intriguing thread about Jeffery with respect to the
Giants and their draft tendencies: his stock slipped in 2012 and is rumored to
have let himself go before this combine.</p>


<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Terrell Thomas" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/terrell-thomas/" rel="tag nofollow">Terrell
Thomas</a>, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Mario Manningham" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/mario-manningham/" rel="tag nofollow">Mario
Manningham</a>, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Ahmad Bradshaw" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/ahmad-bradshaw/" rel="tag nofollow">Ahmad
Bradshaw</a>, Marvin Austin, and even Hakeem Nicks (gained weight before combine
and ran slower than expected) slipped in the draft because of various
reasons.</p>


That is where Jerry Reese strikes.</p>


Unless Jeffery has to get rolled to the start of the 40 yard dash or has very
serious motivation issues, The Giants will likely look past his "bad" (6th in
the SEC in receiving) season in 2011 as they have so many times.</p>


To this point, this is a combination of what I think the Giants will do and
what they should do. I am not sure they should do this. I think there is a very
good chance they do indeed do it."</p>

giantsfan420
02-21-2012, 05:20 PM
while it is certainly intriguing, i'd rather just re-sign MM or SS12, and then use the 1rst on TE/OL or DE if we can trade Osi for equal worth.

the question is would it be worth the pick to take a chance on the wr or to just sign a FA whose already proven himself at the NFL level

DemandedAce
02-21-2012, 05:30 PM
Why don't people understand Steve smith doesn't play the same position that Manningham does?

giantsfan420
02-21-2012, 05:38 PM
Why don't people understand Steve smith doesn't play the same position that Manningham does?

well when we have two wr's who can do what mm did smiths skill set, imo, becomes even better for our offense.

nicks-physical, deep threat who can also go over the middle
cruz-shifty, agile underneath guy who can also go deep
smith-double move, special route runner who can go across the middle and be an intermediate deep threat

why don't people remember when we had nicks and smith, TEAMS WERE DOUBLE TEAMING SMITH.

with that said, I'd rather MM but if cap room makes it impossible, smith would be just a viable weapon, and in some cases, even better for the offense

Toadofsteel
02-21-2012, 06:42 PM
We need to focus on O-line for the draft. As for WR, we should stay in house: Jernigan, Barden, Thomas, and Hixon should duke it out for the #3 starting job. I think that with a full offeseason Jernigan is going to improve (not to mention he can play ST as well).


Imagine what Cruz and Nicks (not even accounting for the 3 other eligible receivers on the field) could do when Eli has all day to throw. You'd have to triple cover both of them.


Focusing on O-line can also improve our run game with our existing RB. The pass game can stretch out the field, giving bradshaw room to run. A better O-line that can actually make a hole will allow Jacobs to run up the middle more, which is what he excels at (still think he should take a pay cut, but I don't want him off the team entirely).


So, yeah, we should go into this draft picking O-line first. It will improve all aspects of our offense tremendously.

Redeyejedi
02-21-2012, 06:59 PM
AN EARLY LOOK AT THE GIANTS' NFL DRAFT STRATEGY:* WR A POSSIBILITY? (http://www.giants101.com/2012/02/21/an-early-look-at-the-new-york-giants-nfl-draft-strategy-wide-receiver-a-possibility/)

"Under general manager Jerry Reese, the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants have made headlines selecting the best
available player on their board. The most famous of the bunch was defensive end
Jason Pierre- Paul, who, upon being selected would have been the 4th defensive
end in the rotation.


Ultimately, with his high draft picks Jerry Reese searches for the player who
will provide the biggest impact on the roster.*</p>



</p><div style="DISPLAY: none">Nebraska's cornerback Prince Amukamara, center,
number nineteen overall pick, is surrouded by family members after being
selected by the New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) Giants during round one of the 2011 NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) Draft Pick
at Radio City Music Hall on April 28, 2011 in New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/) City. UPI/Monika Graff</div>
<div style="MARGIN: 5px">


<div style="POSITION: relative">



<div style="FLOAT: left">

</div></div></div>




The Giants have needs at several spots including offensive line, tight end,
and possibly running back and safety.*</p>


The fact of the matter is, Reese won't reach for a player at any of those
spots. Tight ends and running backs can be found in most any round.</p>


The most interesting position to keep an eye on at the combine this week and
throughout the draft process is none other than wide receiver.*</p>


We all know the situation with <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Mario Manningham" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/mario-manningham/" rel="tag nofollow">Mario
Manningham</a>. He is a legitimate deep threat in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) and in a
league where a premium value is placed on big plays, Manningham will not slip
under anyone's radar. With franchise tags or extensions likely for Mike Wallace,
Vincent Jackson, Desean Jackson, and Reggie Wayne, Manningham*might just be the
best option available on the wide receiver market.</p>


The draft is a totally separate story.*</p>


At first glance, it looks silly to lose a player in free agency and then
"waste" a first round pick on a player at his position.*</p>


At second glance, the wide receiver class in 2012 is extremely deep. Factor
in the notion that the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) has become severely pass- oriented, that big plays
drive the Giants offense, and that Hakeem Nicks has missed time in his first 3
seasons, the Giants could be staring at the very realistic possibility that two-
thirds of their dynamic passing trio from 2011 would not be available for
franchise quarterback Eli Manning.</p>


Manning is in his prime and he proved in 2011 that with the proper weapons at
his disposal, he can dictate games against any defense in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/) and gives
the Giants a great chance to win any game they play.*</p>


The Giants can not afford to waste that.*</p>


Alshon Jeffery and Reuben Randle are two names that come to mind when
discussing wide receivers in the later rounds. Both stand at 6'4" and possess
the ability to run the entire route tree. Their incredible size and ability to
snatch the ball out of the air in double coverage is intriguing for an offense
in New York (http://www.giants101.com/tag/new-york/)
that has not had a true size threat since Plaxico Burress.*</p>


Both players dominated the best conference in the nation and would be getting
an absolute ton of press in any draft that did not include Justin Blackmon.*</p>


In 2010 with South Carolina, Jeffery beat the #1 team in the nation in
Alabama almost single handedly. He had 7 catches for 127 yards and two
touchdowns in what stands as one of the most dominant receiving performances in
the SEC in recent history.*</p>


He is also nearly 230 pounds.*</p>


Randle averaged over 20 yards per reception in 6 of LSU's 13 games this past
season. Again, this is in the SEC, the top conference in college football (http://www.giants101.com/tag/football/).</p>


Both players seem to fit the Giants profile in terms of draft picks.</p>


First off, they are physical freaks with huge potential in the NFL (http://www.giants101.com/tag/nfl/). Secondly,
they were productive. Thirdly, they played against high levels of
competition.*</p>


There is another very intriguing thread about Jeffery with respect to the
Giants and their draft tendencies: his stock slipped in 2012 and is rumored to
have let himself go before this combine.</p>


<a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Terrell Thomas" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/terrell-thomas/" rel="tag nofollow">Terrell
Thomas</a>, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Mario Manningham" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/mario-manningham/" rel="tag nofollow">Mario
Manningham</a>, <a class="st_tag internal_tag" title="Posts tagged with Ahmad Bradshaw" href="http://www.giants101.com/tag/ahmad-bradshaw/" rel="tag nofollow">Ahmad
Bradshaw</a>, Marvin Austin, and even Hakeem Nicks (gained weight before combine
and ran slower than expected) slipped in the draft because of various
reasons.*</p>


That is where Jerry Reese strikes.</p>


Unless Jeffery has to get rolled to the start of the 40 yard dash or has very
serious motivation issues, The Giants will likely look past his "bad" (6th in
the SEC in receiving) season in 2011 as they have so many times.*</p>


To this point, this is a combination of what I think the Giants will do and
what they should do. I am not sure they should do this. I think there is a very
good chance they do indeed do it."</p>
I really like Reuben Randle.LSU had awful QB's couldnt get him the ball

RoanokeFan
02-21-2012, 07:14 PM
while it is certainly intriguing, i'd rather just re-sign MM or SS12, and then use the 1rst on TE/OL or DE if we can trade Osi for equal worth.

the question is would it be worth the pick to take a chance on the wr or to just sign a FA whose already proven himself at the NFL level

We have Jernigan and Devin Thomas on the roster. With Nicks and Cruz at 1 and 2, not so sure we need to spend more money on the receiving corps.

buddy33
02-21-2012, 07:34 PM
Sanu out of RU would be a nice pick up if they went WR. Good character guy, good hands, extremely physical, and they have him going very early in the 2nd round. Possibly he he moves up to be a late 1st round pick.

KidA
02-21-2012, 07:47 PM
Why don't people understand Steve smith doesn't play the same position that Manningham does?

well when we have two wr's who can do what mm did smiths skill set, imo, becomes even better for our offense.

nicks-physical, deep threat who can also go over the middle
cruz-shifty, agile underneath guy who can also go deep
smith-double move, special route runner who can go across the middle and be an intermediate deep threat

why don't people remember when we had nicks and smith, TEAMS WERE DOUBLE TEAMING SMITH.

with that said, I'd rather MM but if cap room makes it impossible, smith would be just a viable weapon, and in some cases, even better for the offense

This is correct.

Manningham is a good receiver but his skill set is almost redundant here. We would have a much more dynamic and complete group of receivers if we had Smith back. That is of course assuming he can still play at a comparable level.

netplus
02-21-2012, 07:51 PM
Hopefully MM will take less to remain here. Continuity should never be underestimated, and I don't think Jernigan, Barden, Thomas, SS, or any first year WR makes the catch MM made on the final drive in the superbowl.

The OL needs an upgrade, but if the BPA is a WR then fine. How many people hated the JPP pick when we were already strong at DE?

Shockeyitus
02-21-2012, 07:58 PM
I agree with drafting a wide receiver in this draft.... However, not Alshon Jeffrey at #32. There will be other play makers in this draft in rounds 2 - 5....</P>


Round 2 - Nick Toon, Dwight Jones, Ruben Randle</P>


Round 3 - Marvin McNutt, Jordan White, Brian Quick</P>


Round 4 - Jeff Fuller, Tommy Streeter, Chris Givens</P>


Round 5 - Eric Page, DeVier Posey, Ryan Broyles. </P>