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Giants10Joe
02-21-2012, 10:38 PM
We all know that it takes a few years to see how well a player will do in the NFL. So I thought it would be interesting to go back and give the Giants 2009 draft class grades based on their performance in the past 3 years. Any player no longer on the team I gave an automatic F.

Round 1: Hakeem Nicks, WR: A+
3,034 yards and 24 TDs in 3 years, 'nuff said

2: Clint Sintim, LB: B-
Sat most of 2009, had a decent 2010, but then missed 2011 due to injury. Probably still a little early to judge him.

2: Will Beatty, OT: B
Has played decent in games he's started, but has struggled with injuries. Some have questioned whether he's tough enough to be a our starting left tackle, but right now he seems to be our left tackle of the future. However, he'll need to show some improvement next year to solidify a starting spot on the o-line.

3: Ramses Barden, WR: D
Has yet to break 100 yards in a season. Training camp this year could be his final chance to prove himself. If he doesn't impress the coaches in August he could very well fail to make the team.

3: Travis Beckum, TE: B
Has been a solid back-up TE, particularly as a blocker.

4: Andre Brown, RB: D-
Was injured in 2009, failed to make the team in 2010 and bounced around the league, now back on the Giants practice squad. Any player that is no longer on the team I'm giving an F, but because he's back on the practice squad I upgraded his grade slightly. But on the plus side, he came up with the "I Got a Ring" song.

5: Rhett Bomar, QB: F
No longer on the Giants, currently on the Oakland Raiders

6: DeAndre White, CB: F
No longer on the Giants, currently a free agent after being cut from the Browns practice squad in 2010 and not playing in 2011

7: Stoney Woodson, CB: F
No longer in the NFL, currently in the AFL

Overall: B, Reese struck gold with Hakeem Nicks, he's a top 5 WR. The other top few picks have had some injury issues but (except Barden) have been solid but not spectacular when they play. I can't blame Reese for the last few guys failing to make the team, the later rounds are a crap shoot, so any production you get from rounds 5-7 I consider to be a bonus.

slipknottin
02-21-2012, 10:55 PM
all the 2nd-4th round picks have had serious injury issues.

miken609
02-21-2012, 11:04 PM
Nicks - agree

Sintim - more of a bust type guy C-/D range

Beatty - B/C range. slightly lower than you say. hasnt had any real consistent production over any stretch in his career

Barden - C+ had to get this guy with the upside on draft day but hasnt really panned out. still can be average #3 tho.

Beckum - agree

I agree with ur statement on rounds 5-7

JJC7301
02-21-2012, 11:06 PM
Not a very impressive draft class:

Nicks A+

Sintim F (he's done absolutely nothing and won't be on the team for '12-'13)

Beatty: B- (room for improvement. Pretty good against the pass, not so much against the run. The line got better with Diehl back at LT. Overall, I don't think he's going to get much better and we need better work at LT. Could be a good back-up.)

Barden F (hasn't done anything).

Beckum C- (hasn't done much except catch a few passes. Blocking stinks.)

Brown through Woodson were all F's.

I love JR, but 2009 was not a great draft. Oh well, can't win 'em all. And for the guys that have been injured -- well, they've been injured quite a bit, so that doesn't say too much about them.

RagTime Blue
02-21-2012, 11:09 PM
Sintim has got to be a D.

Beatty is our starting LT, and may be for the next 10 years. . .as much as nobody wants to say it. I'd give him a B.

Barden comes from the time when we all thought Eli needed TALL receivers. LMAO. He's a D, but in all fairness to JR, he couldn't have known that.

Beckum gets a C-. I don't care what round he was drafted in, he's severely underperformed.

We have to remember that this draft was before the current CBA, which basically mandated that all draftees make the team (see last season). This is because only drafted players are now cap-friendly.

Reese will shine in the next five years, I predict.

Warchild
02-21-2012, 11:10 PM
I think overall the 2009 draft was weak, however we definitely missed in the second round where we had 2 2nd round picks.

I don't know why we were off in 2009, but take a look at some of the players that were drafted in the round that we could've choosen. Could've McCoy (or Max Unger at C for that matter) with our first pick in the round and Sean Smith with the second pick! Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

2 33 Detroit Lions Louis Delmas S Western Michigan MAC
2 34 New England Patriots Patrick Chung S Oregon Pac-10 from Kansas City [R2 - 1]
2 35 St. Louis Rams James Laurinaitis LB Ohio State Big Ten
2 36 Cleveland Browns Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State Big Ten
2 37 Denver Broncos Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest ACC from Seattle [R2 - 2]
2 38 Cincinnati Bengals Rey Maualuga LB USC Pac-10
2 39 Jacksonville Jaguars Eben Britton OT Arizona Pac-10
2 40 New England Patriots Ron Brace DT Boston College ACC from Oakland [R2 - 3]
2 41 New England Patriots Darius Butler CB Connecticut Big East from Green Bay [R2 - 4]
2 42 Buffalo Bills Jairus Byrd† S Oregon Pac-10
2 43 Carolina Panthers Everette Brown DE Florida State ACC from San Francisco [R2 - 5]
2 44 Miami Dolphins Pat White QB West Virginia Big East from Washington [R2 - 6]
2 45 New York Giants Clint Sintim LB Virginia ACC from New Orleans [R2 - 7]
2 46 Houston Texans Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati Big East
2 47 Oakland Raiders Michael Mitchell S Ohio MAC from San Diego via New England [R2 - 8] [R2 - 9]
2 48 Denver Broncos Darcel McBath S Texas Tech Big 12
2 49 Seattle Seahawks Max Unger C Oregon Pac-10 from Chicago[R2 - 10]
2 50 Cleveland Browns Mohamed Massaquoi WR Georgia SEC from Tampa Bay [R2 - 11]
2 51 Buffalo Bills Andy Levitre G Oregon State Pac-10 from Dallas [R2 - 12]
2 52 Cleveland Browns David Veikune DE Hawai?i WAC from New York Jets [R2 - 13]
2 53 Philadelphia Eagles LeSean McCoy† RB Pittsburgh Big East
2 54 Minnesota Vikings Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma Big 12
2 55 Atlanta Falcons William Moore S Missouri Big 12
2 56 Indianapolis Colts Fili Moala DT USC Pac-10 from Miami [R2 - 14]
2 57 Baltimore Ravens Paul Kruger DE Utah MWC
2 58 New England Patriots Sebastian Vollmer OT Houston C-USA
2 59 Carolina Panthers Sherrod Martin CB Troy Sun Belt
2 60 New York Giants William Beatty OT Connecticut Big East
2 61 Miami Dolphins Sean Smith CB Utah MWC from Indianapolis
2 62 Tennessee Titans Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn SEC
2 63 Arizona Cardinals Cody Brown DE Connecticut Big East
2 64 Denver Broncos Richard Quinn TE North Carolina ACC from Pittsburgh [R2 - 15]

Giants10Joe
02-21-2012, 11:11 PM
I had the most trouble with Sintim and Beatty. They've both had injury and consistency issues. I think they're both destined to be backups, but Beatty still has a shot to start.

slipknottin
02-21-2012, 11:19 PM
I think overall the 2009 draft was weak, however we definitely missed in the second round where we had 2 2nd round picks. ]

If you look at it this way, you understand why...

Sintim was the last of the top class of LB, after Sintim there was no other LB drafted until the 3rd round, with jason williams of the cowboys.

Beatty was the last of the 2nd tier OTs, the next OT drafted was in the 4th round.


What depresses me more is that the giants missed Mike Wallace by one pick in the 3rd.

NYSPORTS
02-21-2012, 11:23 PM
Beckum is not a blocker

Warchild
02-21-2012, 11:23 PM
Yea Wallace in the 3rd instead of Barden would've been amazing!

giantsfan420
02-21-2012, 11:28 PM
eh...looking at who was taken after us in the 2nd, we missed on Mccoy but nothing else jumps out at all. would have been sick had we gotten him.


to the OP, did u really say Beckums been particularly good at blocking?!?!

and Sintim has been solid at any time in his career?!?!?

Matt C
02-21-2012, 11:33 PM
B Overall? Thats a little high. Take away Nicks and its an F.

Nicks - A+ (don't need to explain this)

Sintim - D (He won't be on the team next season, so you could easily make this an F. I know he has been injured but he has done NOTHING. Should have never taken a 3-4 LBer when we were gifted an extra 2nd round pick)

Beatty - C+ (Again he really hasn't shown much, not enough to warrent a B. For a 2nd round pick, and there "future" at LT i'd expect a little more)

Beckum - D (Another wasted pick, has shown nothing, after being drafted we heard so much about him as an Hback and how he will add another demension to our O. hasn't happened yet, won't be with the team when his rockie deal is up)

Barden - C (hasnt done anything to warrent a B. Plax 2.0, not so much)

Brown - F (Again has done nothing, except for a youtube video)

Bomar - F (do I have to bother explaining this one?)

White - F

Woodson - F (funny name, out of the league)

Overall a really really awful draft class.

Giants10Joe
02-21-2012, 11:36 PM
eh...looking at who was taken after us in the 2nd, we missed on Mccoy but nothing else jumps out at all. would have been sick had we gotten him.


to the OP, did u really say Beckums been particularly good at blocking?!?!

and Sintim has been solid at any time in his career?!?!?

My mistake about Beckum. I got confused as to which of our TEs was the blocker. I still think he is a solid backup though. And yes Sintim was a decent in the few games he played. Maybe B- is generous but he hasn't had much playing time.

slipknottin
02-21-2012, 11:36 PM
Andre Brown tore his achilles, which is pretty much a career ender for a HB.

I think Beatty has been much better than a C when he is on the field, but he has had injury problems. Fortunately all of them are unrelated (broken foot, detached retina) so its not like he has chronic back problems or something like that.

Matt C
02-21-2012, 11:42 PM
Andre Brown tore his achilles, which is pretty much a career ender for a HB.

I think Beatty has been much better than a C when he is on the field, but he has had injury problems. Fortunately all of them are unrelated (broken foot, detached retina) so its not like he has chronic back problems or something like that.

I gave Beatty a C+, purely based on the grade school system that a C is average. I know he has dealt with some injurys, but I feel he is slightly above average, I just cant give him a B untill I see a full season where he can prove himself. Not hating on him or anything, hope he pans out, I thought he was a steal when we got him, things just havn't worked out yet

Bohemian
02-22-2012, 12:26 AM
Other the Nicks, the rest of that draft was a complete waist of time. Nicks completely compensates for all of that mess.

The only other player that is worth even mentioning is Beckum, but he is not worst keeping him. He is no blocker to be sure, as he is really more of an h-back playing tight end.

That draft is sad.

slipknottin
02-22-2012, 12:55 AM
Other the Nicks, the rest of that draft was a complete waist of time.* Nicks completely compensates for all of that mess.

The only other player that is worth even mentioning is Beckum, but he is not worst keeping him.* He is no blocker to be sure, as he is really more of an h-back playing tight end.

That draft is sad.


Beatty isnt worth mentioning? He did start the season at LT

Bohemian
02-22-2012, 01:38 AM
Other the Nicks, the rest of that draft was a complete waist of time. Nicks completely compensates for all of that mess.

The only other player that is worth even mentioning is Beckum, but he is not worst keeping him. He is no blocker to be sure, as he is really more of an h-back playing tight end.

That draft is sad.


Beatty isnt worth mentioning? He did start the season at LT

Very true, so we can say that Nicks and Beatty were worth it... but it still a sad draft class.

Harooni
02-22-2012, 02:41 AM
well nicks was the best player in that draft imo. i wanted him and we got him, (first time since shockey) a first round pick went my way.

so to me it makes up for the rest, and i think beckum getting a B is generous.

myles2424
02-22-2012, 03:04 AM
Your extremely generous with sintim & beckums grades....