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NYFan221
02-22-2012, 02:55 PM
If MM leaves, a great receiving/OK blocking (hopefully we can mold him to become better) TE would sure up our pass attack and put less necessity on Thomas, Barden, Jernigan, or who ever we draft/pick up to do good in the 3rd WR spot.

Also it would give us some breathing room until Ballard and Beckum recover.

Plus allow us to run with 2 TE 2 WR sets, helping out our o-line.

I'm not to knowledgeable with the draft this year, but thats where i would go first, before OL, LB, and CB.

jakegibbs
02-22-2012, 03:03 PM
O-Line is greater need. Eli taking way too many sacks & running game needs O-line help. Got 3 TE's on roster now so should be fine even though 2 of the three were hurt & hurt bad in the knees.

Crap shoot but O-Line if there's a can't miss one at 32 IMHO anyway.

DemandedAce
02-22-2012, 03:04 PM
I'm actually quite happy with pascoe filling in for Ballard in the meantime and don't think we should waste a draft pick. Pascoe proved himself in the playoffs and down the stretch and can be a great stand in for us. Picks will be better spent on the line and secondary/lbs

slipknottin
02-22-2012, 03:05 PM
O-Line is greater need. Eli taking way too many sacks & running game needs O-line help. Got 3 TE's on roster now so should be fine even though 2 of the three were hurt & hurt bad in the knees.

Ballard and Beckum will go on PUP, wont play until at least midway through next season.

Pascoe on the other hand, in the three years hes been with the giants has a career high of 126 yards receiving, thats not going to cut it if we are talking someone to replace Ballard's production (600 yards, 4 TDs) and part of Manninghams (600 yards, 4 TDs)

nygsb42champs
02-22-2012, 03:07 PM
I would think JR would look o-line first but you never know who falls down to you in the draft.

Spedracer
02-22-2012, 03:28 PM
I think most of the people suggesting TE in the first round have some sort of media driven infatuation with TE's due to the emergence of Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski. Just because you pick a TE high doesn't mean he will be as effective as those guys. Neither of them were even picked in the first round.

Get an OL or DB in the first. TE on the 3rd day.

bandwgn86
02-22-2012, 03:47 PM
If MM leaves, a great receiving/OK blocking (hopefully we can mold him to become better) TE would sure up our pass attack and put less necessity on Thomas, Barden, Jernigan, or who ever we draft/pick up to do good in the 3rd WR spot.

Also it would give us some breathing room until Ballard and Beckum recover.

Plus allow us to run with 2 TE 2 WR sets, helping out our o-line.

I'm not to knowledgeable with the draft this year, but thats where i would go first, before OL, LB, and CB.
BPA.. at whatever position if its TE so be it. from what i've been reading theres many decent OLineman to be had in later rounds

NYFan221
02-22-2012, 04:07 PM
I think most of the people suggesting TE in the first round have some sort of media driven infatuation with TE's due to the emergence of Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski. Just because you pick a TE high doesn't mean he will be as effective as those guys. Neither of them were even picked in the first round.

Get an OL or DB in the first. TE on the 3rd day.

true. but we haven't had a really good TE in a while, and its something that i would think would help.

Toadofsteel
02-22-2012, 04:08 PM
I agree with the BPA opinion... it's worked for us so far in the 1st round the past couple of years.

That said, we need to take a TE somewhere in the draft, sign a veteran to a 1-year deal, or move Hynoski (who is really an H-back) to TE, as we have to assume that Ballard and Beckum will be unable to play at the start of the season. I don't want to go through half the season relying solely on Pascoe.

Spedracer
02-22-2012, 04:51 PM
I think most of the people suggesting TE in the first round have some sort of media driven infatuation with TE's due to the emergence of Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski. Just because you pick a TE high doesn't mean he will be as effective as those guys. Neither of them were even picked in the first round.

Get an OL or DB in the first. TE on the 3rd day.

true. but we haven't had a really good TE in a while, and its something that i would think would help.


You're right, we haven't and we have still been successful. ANY team is better with Graham or Gronkowski, they are great players. NO rookie is going to come in day 1 and be those guys though.


I agree with the BPA opinion... it's worked for us so far in the 1st round the past couple of years.

That said, we need to take a TE somewhere in the draft, sign a veteran to a 1-year deal, or move Hynoski (who is really an H-back) to TE, as we have to assume that Ballard and Beckum will be unable to play at the start of the season. I don't want to go through half the season relying solely on Pascoe.

I just had to comment...Hynoski...H-Back...Really!?!

Hes a prototypical FB and did a good job for us at that position. I'd bet my life he is not moved to H-back. You must be confusing one player for another...

NY_Eli
02-22-2012, 06:27 PM
O-Line is greater need. Eli taking way too many sacks & running game needs O-line help. Got 3 TE's on roster now so should be fine even though 2 of the three were hurt & hurt bad in the knees.

Ballard and Beckum will go on PUP, wont play until at least midway through next season.

Pascoe on the other hand, in the three years hes been with the giants has a career high of 126 yards receiving, thats not going to cut it if we are talking someone to replace Ballard's production (600 yards, 4 TDs) and part of Manninghams (600 yards, 4 TDs)

I agree with you, and am just playing devil's advocate here, but isn't that what people said when Boss went to Oakland?

Regardless, I'd be shocked if Reese didn't pick someone up, but from what I've read the organizations really like the Hopkins kid on the practice squad.

Flip Empty
02-22-2012, 07:09 PM
O-Line is greater need. Eli taking way too many sacks & running game needs O-line help. Got 3 TE's on roster now so should be fine even though 2 of the three were hurt & hurt bad in the knees.

Ballard and Beckum will go on PUP, wont play until at least midway through next season.

Pascoe on the other hand, in the three years hes been with the giants has a career high of 126 yards receiving, thats not going to cut it if we are talking someone to replace Ballard's production (600 yards, 4 TDs) and part of Manninghams (600 yards, 4 TDs)
Pascoe hasn't had much production in the passing game simply because he hasn't been used much there. It's hard to put up big numbers when you're only on the field in heavy packages.

BlueSanta
02-22-2012, 07:16 PM
O-Line is greater need. Eli taking way too many sacks & running game needs O-line help. Got 3 TE's on roster now so should be fine even though 2 of the three were hurt & hurt bad in the knees.

Ballard and Beckum will go on PUP, wont play until at least midway through next season.

Pascoe on the other hand, in the three years hes been with the giants has a career high of 126 yards receiving, thats not going to cut it if we are talking someone to replace Ballard's production (600 yards, 4 TDs) and part of Manninghams (600 yards, 4 TDs)
Pascoe hasn't had much production in the passing simply because he hasn't been used much there. It's hard to put up big numbers when you're only on the field in heavy packages.

and he hasnt been on the field exceptin heavy packages because he isnt a threat in light packages.


He is a versatile and likable guy. He can be a backup FB and a backup TE. But, he has never been a starting NFL TE. In fact, this is the 1st year ever that he wasnt cut from the roster as a TE from some NFL team.

He also had quite a high number of holding penalties this year for a guy who doesnt get on the field that much.

greenca190
02-22-2012, 07:28 PM
I want Scott chandler to start at tight end next year for us.

NYGRealityCheck
02-22-2012, 07:49 PM
O-Line is greater need. Eli taking way too many sacks & running game needs O-line help. Got 3 TE's on roster now so should be fine even though 2 of the three were hurt & hurt bad in the knees.

Ballard and Beckum will go on PUP, wont play until at least midway through next season.

Pascoe on the other hand, in the three years hes been with the giants has a career high of 126 yards receiving, thats not going to cut it if we are talking someone to replace Ballard's production (600 yards, 4 TDs) and part of Manninghams (600 yards, 4 TDs)
Pascoe hasn't had much production in the passing game simply because he hasn't been used much there. It's hard to put up big numbers when you're only on the field in heavy packages.

I believe they would also have to resign Pascoe first before doing anything with him as he's an UFA?

chasjay
02-22-2012, 07:51 PM
I'll trust Reese about how we acquire a TE (whether FA or Draft) - but the way I see it, we absolutely have to add one or two - and one of them needs credentials, be it past performance or projected upside in the draft. I think the TE need is <u>near</u> the top of the "needs list", but not necessarily at the top.

myles2424
02-22-2012, 10:38 PM
I want to draft a TE....but idk if Allen or fleener will be the BPA at 32.....both seem like early mid 2nd rounders, neither are going amaze anyone at the combine either.....
I can see BPA being interior Oline,LB,CB,DT....and all of which we could use

JJC7301
02-23-2012, 12:20 AM
I'm actually quite happy with pascoe filling in for Ballard in the meantime and don't think we should waste a draft pick. Pascoe proved himself in the playoffs and down the stretch and can be a great stand in for us. Picks will be better spent on the line and secondary/lbs
+1. I'm not too interested in drafting a TE in the 1st round, unless he is CLEARLY the BPA. I'd rather go with Pascoe and sign a veteran FA fairly cheap to hold the fort until Ballard can hopefully come back.

Hopefully the BPA in the 1st will be either in the secondary or d-line if we can't keep Osi around for one more year.